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[2015-11-08 02:06:02] BitMEX_Arthur : Total Equity / Current Position Value >= MM or else liquidation
[2015-11-08 02:06:18] BitMEX_Arthur : total equity includes realised and unrealised PNL
[2015-11-08 02:07:13] micmix : BitMEX_Arthur: Are you stil talking about isolated margin?
[2015-11-08 02:09:33] BitMEX_Arthur : That's the more general formula
[2015-11-08 02:09:38] BitMEX_Arthur : for isolated margin, everything is fixed
[2015-11-08 02:09:53] BitMEX_Arthur : if the position is worth 100 XBT then you need 0.5 XBT in equity or else liquidated
[2015-11-08 02:10:12] BitMEX_Arthur : so take the entry position value, multiplied by 1-MM and you get the minimum equity you must have in that position
[2015-11-08 02:10:16] BitMEX_Arthur : before liquidation
[2015-11-08 02:10:28] micmix : ok
[2015-11-08 02:10:39] BitMEX_Arthur : Sorry just MM * Entry Position Value
[2015-11-08 02:10:52] BitMEX_Arthur : so 100 XBT * 0.50% = 0.5 XBT
[2015-11-08 02:13:55] Murch : Litecoin is looking juicy here too lol..
[2015-11-08 02:15:35] micmix : does realised pnl count toward equity in that position?
[2015-11-08 02:23:30] habibi : up or down ?
[2015-11-08 02:23:48] BitMEX_Arthur : I need to double check with Wally if realised pnl is held in isolate margin after realised.
[2015-11-08 02:25:25] micmix : BitMEX_Arthur: doesn't look so for long term contracts, at least part of the pnl that was earned before last rebalance is not
[2015-11-08 02:25:58] Murch : Uh oh we about to blow through this hoe
[2015-11-08 02:27:37] habibi : some bull is needed to do one bigger move
[2015-11-08 02:30:42] laisee : okc 2600
[2015-11-08 02:33:29] zanza : 24H premium is back
[2015-11-08 02:33:44] habibi : not for long i think
[2015-11-08 02:46:04] habibi : whats wrong with stamp lol
[2015-11-08 02:46:13] habibi : nice dump in crucial moment
[2015-11-08 02:58:16] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: China doesn't care it seems. Only a temporary setback
[2015-11-08 02:59:49] floopfloop : are any admins on?
[2015-11-08 03:00:01] floopfloop : I swear I am missing some contracts I had
[2015-11-08 03:00:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Damn OKC
[2015-11-08 03:01:00] floopfloop : BitMEX_Arthur: you here?
[2015-11-08 03:01:08] habibi : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: okc and hobi works on breaking
[2015-11-08 03:01:15] floopfloop : BitMEX_Wally: you here?
[2015-11-08 03:02:31] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: welcome back
[2015-11-08 03:02:33] floopfloop : did anyone elses Daily positions just disaspeer?
[2015-11-08 03:02:40] floopfloop : disapear*
[2015-11-08 03:02:46] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Hey! thanks
[2015-11-08 03:02:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : How's it going? Broke the pattern of chop?
[2015-11-08 03:02:59] habibi : floopfloop: u sure it didnt go into liquid?
[2015-11-08 03:03:06] floopfloop : totally sure
[2015-11-08 03:03:13] floopfloop : I had a long position at 383
[2015-11-08 03:03:26] habibi : check order history tab
[2015-11-08 03:03:32] floopfloop : its not ther
[2015-11-08 03:03:37] Murch : hmm broke it a little bit
[2015-11-08 03:03:43] Murch : Since it's been going up a little now
[2015-11-08 03:04:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Good to hear. That dump just rained on the breakout parade for sure but China doesn't seem to care much which makes me more bullish than before
[2015-11-08 03:04:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I could be totally off on that though
[2015-11-08 03:04:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : We'll see
[2015-11-08 03:04:57] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Yeah I hope China backs the bull. It's looking better and better thankfully.
[2015-11-08 03:05:08] habibi : floopfloop: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory here still nothing?
[2015-11-08 03:05:41] floopfloop : habibi: there3 we go
[2015-11-08 03:05:49] floopfloop : i didnt realize it hit 394?
[2015-11-08 03:05:53] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I find it strange that after such long consolidation lots of people didn't jump on the breakout as an opportunity to buy in
[2015-11-08 03:06:18] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : That and Finex being totally dead volume wise makes me suspicious
[2015-11-08 03:06:19] habibi : it hit, so it closed at top
[2015-11-08 03:06:27] floopfloop : habibi: thanks
[2015-11-08 03:06:33] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: I know it's weird, I think it'll gain speed soon though.
[2015-11-08 03:06:38] habibi : u should see profit in balance tab
[2015-11-08 03:07:19] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: That's what I'm hoping for
[2015-11-08 03:07:50] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Hmm now OKCoin wants to go down
[2015-11-08 03:08:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Huobi being as bullish as ever though
[2015-11-08 03:09:08] Murch : Never fear, hoobi heer
[2015-11-08 03:09:17] habibi : what if someone sold 500 btc @finex and stamp just to take better long position here
[2015-11-08 03:09:19] habibi : :p
[2015-11-08 03:09:58] Murch : That would be interesting risk management
[2015-11-08 03:10:00] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Haha
[2015-11-08 03:10:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: I find that unlikely but I guess it's possible
[2015-11-08 03:10:36] habibi : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: nah, it was a joke :p no single option to make it profitable at all
[2015-11-08 03:11:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: I can imagine picking up lots more futures contracts on leverage could work
[2015-11-08 03:11:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : But you risk tanking the price against the position you're building
[2015-11-08 03:11:40] habibi : yea but at that time dump maybe 15k contracts get opened
[2015-11-08 03:12:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Looking dire @Murch :(
[2015-11-08 03:12:21] Murch : uh oh
[2015-11-08 03:12:42] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I have a bit of profit today I'm willing to use to be patient but when China turns bearish I think they decide
[2015-11-08 03:13:29] Murch : Yep definitely a wise choice
[2015-11-08 03:13:47] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Also my position is small so I feel safer
[2015-11-08 03:14:12] Murch : That's a good strategy, when in doubt reduce size.
[2015-11-08 03:14:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Not even sure Finex is worth watching at this point it's so dead
[2015-11-08 03:17:59] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : There's one thing I'm pretty sure of and that's that if this starts going up in a convincing way the FOMO is going to be rapid
[2015-11-08 03:18:25] Murch : Now I'm feeling pretty certain that the market is just waiting for the last few to empty their hands before pushing up.
[2015-11-08 03:19:02] guest234234 : What is a FOMO?
[2015-11-08 03:19:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : guest234234: Fear Of Missing Out
[2015-11-08 03:19:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : It's when people start to get emotional and take a position because they're scared of missing train
[2015-11-08 03:19:52] guest234234 : Ah, I see
[2015-11-08 03:20:01] guest234234 : That.
[2015-11-08 03:20:54] habibi : so basically everytime when bulls go into work past week :D
[2015-11-08 03:22:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I have to go but I may be on later. Adios and good luck
[2015-11-08 03:22:17] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: thanks dude cya
[2015-11-08 03:32:20] BitMEX_Wally : Morning all
[2015-11-08 03:32:40] Murch : BitMEX_Wally: Hey, how's it going?
[2015-11-08 03:32:57] AudibleScience : Good morning @BitMEX_Wally
[2015-11-08 03:33:09] BitMEX_Wally : Hey guys
[2015-11-08 03:33:16] BitMEX_Wally : floopfloop: You had a question?
[2015-11-08 03:34:21] AudibleScience : I have a quick question...
[2015-11-08 03:35:20] mikeh : do you have to run 2 accounts to go both short and long?
[2015-11-08 03:36:24] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: Hi Wally! Just in time for my websocket API question: do you push any event to indicate that a settlement happened? I know I get execType=settlement execution if I had an open position but do you push anything if there is no open position?
[2015-11-08 03:38:17] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Wally: Would it be possible to have a more elastic liquidation feature.... like a box one could tick, which would stop the system from liquidating a position?
[2015-11-08 03:38:51] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: There is a `settlement` table, see if you can subscribe to that
[2015-11-08 03:39:22] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: thanks, going to try right now
[2015-11-08 03:39:49] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: Of course, if you subscribe to the `instrument` the state will go `Open` then `Expired` then `Cleared` then `Settled` and then (if re-listing) `Open`
[2015-11-08 03:39:54] floopfloop : BitMEX_Wally: I figured it out bud. Price spiked and my contacts sold, then the price fell (all the while not here) and I was confused
[2015-11-08 03:40:40] BitMEX_Wally : AudibleScience: You can add more margin to the position
[2015-11-08 03:40:41] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Wally: then at settlement, if the account was in a negative balance the trader would have to settle up... but would not get liquidated as a result of high volatility and too little margin equity to absorb it.
[2015-11-08 03:42:03] BitMEX_Wally : AudibleScience: We cannot allow traders to go into a negative balance, that basically means DPE for everyone else
[2015-11-08 03:42:25] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: thanks, instrument state will work. I checked, you cannot subscribe to settlement table
[2015-11-08 03:42:33] kendang : what does DPE mean?
[2015-11-08 03:42:41] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Wally: I see...
[2015-11-08 03:42:49] BitMEX_Wally : kendang: https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation
[2015-11-08 03:43:25] BitMEX_Wally : Basically if a trader goes bankrupt (negative balance) on a losing position then all the winners have their profits adjusted to pay for the system loss
[2015-11-08 03:44:50] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: when you push instrument state `Expired`, do you push the settlement price as well? If you do, what is the field name?
[2015-11-08 03:45:04] BitMEX_Wally : `settledPrice` on the `instrument` table
[2015-11-08 03:45:25] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: cool, thanks for your help!
[2015-11-08 03:45:50] BitMEX_Wally : Although that will come when the state is `Cleared`
[2015-11-08 03:46:06] BitMEX_Wally : Which might be a few seconds after expiry, while we wait for the index data from TradeBlock
[2015-11-08 03:46:17] AudibleScience : I see... I'll just have to resist trading with larger positions until my account has more equity in it then! ;-)
[2015-11-08 03:46:59] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: ok, good, and I can place new orders when the state goes back to Open?
[2015-11-08 03:47:08] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2015-11-08 03:47:20] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: perfect, just what I needed
[2015-11-08 03:56:18] floopfloop : China just announced that the CEO of bitcoin is going to set the price at $345 for thanksgiving. Time to put in those sell orders people
[2015-11-08 03:58:05] abc123 : The CEO of bitcoin ????
[2015-11-08 03:58:44] floopfloop : abc123: correct. That head honcho
[2015-11-08 04:04:11] zanza : Mark Karpales?
[2015-11-08 04:04:27] zanza : Karpales-san
[2015-11-08 04:05:51] floopfloop : yes thats him
[2015-11-08 04:06:07] floopfloop : does Bitmex still use Bitfinex for the exchange settling?
[2015-11-08 04:06:41] BitMEX_Wally : floopfloop: No, only for XLT
[2015-11-08 04:07:15] BitMEX_Wally : `.XBT` comes from the TradeBlock XBX Index
[2015-11-08 04:10:36] floopfloop : BitMEX_Wally: I guess i am getting old lol
[2015-11-08 04:10:52] BitMEX_Wally : You're one of our oldest customers :)
[2015-11-08 04:15:19] floopfloop : :)
[2015-11-08 04:25:42] dorothy490 : BitMEX_Wally: it's impossible to add margin into isolated orders from mobile
[2015-11-08 04:26:16] dorothy490 : Icon b is bidding for open orders
[2015-11-08 04:26:32] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: Ok we'll look into it
[2015-11-08 04:27:01] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: BTW, you are exposing sequential account numbers, so it's easy to see how many account are registered here
[2015-11-08 04:28:10] dorothy490 : BitMEX_Wally: can you please manually add 0.5 margin into my isolated daily?
[2015-11-08 04:28:20] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: Ok
[2015-11-08 04:28:20] dorothy490 : I'm from mobile
[2015-11-08 04:28:44] dorothy490 : Thanks
[2015-11-08 04:30:45] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: You don't seem to have an open position in `XBT24H`?
[2015-11-08 04:31:06] dorothy490 : I have open stop
[2015-11-08 04:31:13] podizzler3k : #rekt
[2015-11-08 04:31:20] zanza : doh
[2015-11-08 04:31:43] podizzler3k : popped ur rekt cherry
[2015-11-08 04:31:46] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: Unforunately it is not possible to add margin to a position until it is open
[2015-11-08 04:31:48] podizzler3k : now youre ready to make money
[2015-11-08 04:31:50] dorothy490 : Ok I'll open a poison for 1 contract that should help probably
[2015-11-08 04:32:01] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: Good idea :)
[2015-11-08 04:32:21] dorothy490 : It's possible to add margin into open order, even if your don't have position
[2015-11-08 04:33:22] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: Well, technically if you have open orders in the book then it is possible
[2015-11-08 04:33:34] BitMEX_Wally : But StopLimit orders that are not triggered do not count
[2015-11-08 04:34:35] BitMEX_Wally : Basically if `currentQty=0` and `initMargin=0` then you cannot add margin to the 'position'
[2015-11-08 04:34:58] BitMEX_Wally : Limit in the book require `initMargin` but StopLimit orders do not require `initMargin` until they are triggered
[2015-11-08 04:37:31] BitMEX_Wally : Ok I see you have transferred 0.5 margin in
[2015-11-08 05:43:04] Scottv53 : morning Folks
[2015-11-08 05:43:46] roymalmberg : Hello Scottv53
[2015-11-08 05:45:26] AudibleScience : Good morning @Scottv53
[2015-11-08 05:53:47] Scottv53 : <g>Hope the markets were behaving
[2015-11-08 06:01:59] Scottv53 : roymalmberg: where are we long or short?
[2015-11-08 06:03:51] roymalmberg : Scottv53: Depends on where your exit is ;) but I'm probably long at 430 and short at 325
[2015-11-08 06:30:55] AbuAli : its boring today lol
[2015-11-08 06:32:33] gaoMex : AbuAli: Wedge formation currently. Going to breakout soon.
[2015-11-08 06:47:54] AbuAli : gaoMex: yea waiting for that is boring lol
[2015-11-08 07:03:28] roymalmberg : BitMEX_Wally: https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/trade/byDate?symbol=XBT&startTime=2015-10-30&endTime=2015-10-31
[2015-11-08 07:03:38] roymalmberg : where did the first 4 minutes go?
[2015-11-08 07:03:59] roymalmberg : and 29/10 I previously got data to 23:59:59, now its gone
[2015-11-08 07:16:03] BitMEX_Wally : roymalmberg: If you use `XBT` as the symbol it will pick the nearest expiring monthly contract, i.e. `XBTZ15`
[2015-11-08 07:16:16] BitMEX_Wally : And there were no trades in the first 4 minutes of the day
[2015-11-08 07:16:37] roymalmberg : I see, forgot the dot
[2015-11-08 07:16:41] roymalmberg : thanks
[2015-11-08 07:16:50] BitMEX_Wally : `.XBT` is the underlying index :)
[2015-11-08 07:18:03] roymalmberg : Can I select the daily contracts?
[2015-11-08 07:18:19] roymalmberg : (trades made)
[2015-11-08 07:21:47] BitMEX_Wally : Sure
[2015-11-08 07:21:50] BitMEX_Wally : `XBT24H`
[2015-11-08 07:27:12] roymalmberg : Awesome
[2015-11-08 07:35:53] cekseh : A lil selling going on
[2015-11-08 07:35:56] cekseh : =P
[2015-11-08 07:43:12] cekseh : Buy are your own peril. not even a dead cat
[2015-11-08 07:44:14] cekseh : oo might be a little one here
[2015-11-08 07:46:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Ouch, that drop. Still positive profit wise for the day but not by much. That's what stops are for
[2015-11-08 08:01:01] floopfloop : time for another moonshot
[2015-11-08 08:04:55] mikeh : why won't 50x execute, bid and ask at same price
[2015-11-08 08:06:31] mikeh : screwed again?
[2015-11-08 08:06:55] BitMEX_Wally : mikeh: What's up?
[2015-11-08 08:07:19] mikeh : ask and bid were same price for like 30 seconds but wouldn't execute
[2015-11-08 08:07:23] mikeh : on 50x
[2015-11-08 08:08:08] BitMEX_Wally : Might have been an issue processing updates from the websoket
[2015-11-08 08:08:11] mikeh : was 445 @ 395
[2015-11-08 08:08:36] BitMEX_Wally : The trading engine will never publish a crossed book :)
[2015-11-08 08:09:08] BitMEX_Wally : The offer has been 23 @ 406.90 for the last 5 minutes
[2015-11-08 08:09:25] mikeh : nah there was 445 @ 395 and i matched it
[2015-11-08 08:09:51] BitMEX_Wally : I see that offer, it was there from 2015.11.08 08:03:04.214745000 to 2015.11.08 08:03:23.274866000
[2015-11-08 08:09:59] BitMEX_Wally : You submitted your bid at 2015.11.08 08:03:49.681740000
[2015-11-08 08:11:21] mikeh : strange, i clicked on it to issue bid and both were there for ages
[2015-11-08 08:12:40] BitMEX_Wally : Strange, I'll see if we need to put stricter checks into the client to tell if the web socket is stale
[2015-11-08 09:01:55] Scottv53 : BitMEX_Wally: if had a large order to sell and wanted to be executed immediately and there's a large bid offer that fits my size but at higher price which lies 4 bids below the cheaper ones, I would like to know how does your engine match my order?
[2015-11-08 09:02:57] BitMEX_Wally : If the bid is 100 and you submit a sell at 99 then you get the better price
[2015-11-08 09:05:17] BitMEX_Wally : If the bids are 98, 99, 100 (say) and you submit a sell order with a limit price of 98 then it will eat down through the bids and there will be trades at 100, then 99, then 98 until you've reached your quantity or price limit
[2015-11-08 09:07:41] Scottv53 : what if i put a limit order for 100, what happens too the other bids which are lower i.e. 98, 99..
[2015-11-08 09:08:48] Scottv53 : what if i put a limit order to sell for 100, what happens too the other bids which are lower i.e. 98, 99.. @BitMEX_Wally
[2015-11-08 09:09:30] BitMEX_Wally : If there are bids at 98 and 99, and you put a sell at 100 then nothing happens
[2015-11-08 09:09:41] BitMEX_Wally : It is not possible to match these trades
[2015-11-08 09:10:15] BitMEX_Wally : The bids won't buy above 99 and the offers won't sell below 100 (these are limit orders)
[2015-11-08 09:10:37] Scottv53 : understood
[2015-11-08 09:16:35] floopfloop : BitMEX_Wally: love the expire timer
[2015-11-08 09:23:52] floopfloop : anyone on?
[2015-11-08 09:25:09] BitMEX_Wally : floopfloop: Thanks :)
[2015-11-08 09:27:16] floopfloop : BitMEX_Wally: np. I look to be in a good position for the settlement time :)
[2015-11-08 09:27:41] floopfloop : BitMEX_Wally: Keep up the good work~
[2015-11-08 09:33:36] amirmass : hello
[2015-11-08 09:33:49] floopfloop : amirmass: hi
[2015-11-08 09:33:58] amirmass : can i ask something?
[2015-11-08 09:34:05] floopfloop : NEVER!
[2015-11-08 09:34:18] amirmass : lol
[2015-11-08 09:34:20] floopfloop : amirmass: whats up
[2015-11-08 09:35:09] amirmass : do i need to type the closing price on x100 futures?
[2015-11-08 09:35:18] amirmass : or i can close it through the day?
[2015-11-08 09:36:14] floopfloop : type the closing price? lol
[2015-11-08 09:37:11] amirmass : floopfloop: i cant see anything here cause i didnt deposited anything yet
[2015-11-08 09:37:43] floopfloop : well i would do that first and read the guides instead of just asking questions outright
[2015-11-08 09:37:45] floopfloop : but thats just me
[2015-11-08 09:37:49] amirmass : i mean do i need to decide the closing price along with the position price
[2015-11-08 09:37:57] floopfloop : no
[2015-11-08 09:38:09] floopfloop : closing price is in top right corner
[2015-11-08 09:38:13] floopfloop : err
[2015-11-08 09:38:15] floopfloop : closing time
[2015-11-08 09:38:24] floopfloop : price is not even determined on this exchange
[2015-11-08 09:38:37] floopfloop : check out the guides
[2015-11-08 09:38:39] amirmass : floopfloop: what happens if i dont close a x100 trade in a day
[2015-11-08 09:38:57] floopfloop : look at the times
[2015-11-08 09:39:07] floopfloop : depends on trade you made
[2015-11-08 09:39:20] floopfloop : if you dont touch it, it closes at 6am CST
[2015-11-08 09:39:30] floopfloop : if you make a trade on the daily
[2015-11-08 09:39:36] amirmass : ohh ok
[2015-11-08 09:39:49] floopfloop : see for me
[2015-11-08 09:39:56] floopfloop : i have long daily
[2015-11-08 09:40:02] floopfloop : at 380.81
[2015-11-08 09:40:10] floopfloop : in 2:20 it closes
[2015-11-08 09:40:25] floopfloop : that trade is done, and settles at the price unless i sell the trade
[2015-11-08 09:40:38] floopfloop : teh guides help
[2015-11-08 09:40:58] amirmass : let's say u r happy with ur profit now, and u wanna close it
[2015-11-08 09:41:04] amirmass : can u?
[2015-11-08 09:41:09] floopfloop : yeah
[2015-11-08 09:41:19] floopfloop : prolly take a loss on profit in comparison tho
[2015-11-08 09:41:23] floopfloop : trust me
[2015-11-08 09:41:26] floopfloop : read the guides
[2015-11-08 09:41:36] amirmass : floopfloop: i will
[2015-11-08 09:41:36] floopfloop : you shouldnt be asking any questions until you do
[2015-11-08 09:41:38] amirmass : thnx buddy
[2015-11-08 09:41:42] amirmass : and careful with ur long
[2015-11-08 09:41:50] floopfloop : nah not worries
[2015-11-08 09:41:54] floopfloop : not worried
[2015-11-08 09:41:55] amirmass : ::))
[2015-11-08 09:42:02] floopfloop : im at 380.81
[2015-11-08 09:42:09] floopfloop : been at like 389 whole day
[2015-11-08 09:42:26] floopfloop : but thanks
[2015-11-08 09:42:44] floopfloop : if you read the guides and have further questions the admins are happy to answer
[2015-11-08 09:42:51] floopfloop : but most questions are found in the guides
[2015-11-08 09:42:59] floopfloop : they did a really good job
[2015-11-08 09:43:07] roymalmberg : BitMEX_Wally: When I download .XBT from the API, what timezone is that data?
[2015-11-08 09:43:07] floopfloop : i started trading with 0 xp
[2015-11-08 09:43:25] amirmass : floopfloop: ok, thnx a lot buddy, see u when u become a billionare:))
[2015-11-08 09:43:34] floopfloop : i fucked that up already
[2015-11-08 09:43:36] floopfloop : oops
[2015-11-08 09:43:41] floopfloop : i fcked that up already
[2015-11-08 09:43:44] BitMEX_Wally : roymalmberg: All times are in UTC
[2015-11-08 09:43:47] floopfloop : cashed in BTC at $5
[2015-11-08 09:44:11] roymalmberg : BitMEX_Wally: thanks, the charts on bitmex, are they dependent on the user settings?
[2015-11-08 09:44:12] floopfloop : BTCGuild trader number #6464
[2015-11-08 09:44:23] floopfloop : errr...miner number
[2015-11-08 09:44:29] BitMEX_Wally : roymalmberg: In the frontend we show local time, but everything on the API is UTC
[2015-11-08 09:44:45] roymalmberg : Thank you
[2015-11-08 09:46:59] mikeh : where's the server time?
[2015-11-08 09:47:30] BitMEX_Wally : mikeh: The servers are in Dublin
[2015-11-08 09:47:49] mikeh : i mean i can see a timestamp on a trade but don't know the current time there
[2015-11-08 09:48:02] mikeh : to see how long ago it was exactly
[2015-11-08 09:48:28] mikeh : just thought you might have it somewhere
[2015-11-08 09:48:36] BitMEX_Wally : I'm not sure I understand the question
[2015-11-08 09:48:42] BitMEX_Wally : Timezones are normally given as offsets from UTC
[2015-11-08 09:48:53] BitMEX_Wally : So you need to know where you are, and what your offset is from UTC
[2015-11-08 09:49:02] BitMEX_Wally : China is UTC +08:00
[2015-11-08 09:49:31] BitMEX_Wally : The last trade on `XBT24H` happened 10 seconds ago
[2015-11-08 09:49:36] mikeh : no i just want to know how long ago a trade happened so would be preferable to not have to switch tabs to look up the time there
[2015-11-08 09:49:53] BitMEX_Wally : mikeh: The frontend should show all times in local time
[2015-11-08 09:49:56] BitMEX_Wally : Your local time
[2015-11-08 09:50:29] amirmass : BitMEX_Wally: cant see where i open positions on futures, do i need to deposite btc first to see that?
[2015-11-08 09:50:41] BitMEX_Wally : amirmass: Yes, you can't trade for free
[2015-11-08 09:50:43] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/deposit
[2015-11-08 09:50:55] mikeh : holy crap, its been almost 2 hours since the last 7d trade
[2015-11-08 09:51:15] mikeh : that's why i thought it wasn't my timezone :)
[2015-11-08 09:51:19] BitMEX_Wally : Ahhh
[2015-11-08 09:51:33] BitMEX_Wally : No-one seems to be interested in `XBT7D` today
[2015-11-08 09:52:21] lazerdye : We're in the dolldrums...
[2015-11-08 09:53:40] dorothy490 : BitMEX_Wally: hey Wally, do you at your team have some Excel file which can calculate liquidation, required margin, possible profit, etc? To plan trads properly
[2015-11-08 09:53:54] dorothy490 : I know it could be not official indeed
[2015-11-08 09:53:55] mikeh : woot
[2015-11-08 09:54:23] BitMEX_Wally : I think we have some pricing spreadsheets https://www.bitmex.com/app/pricingSpreadsheets
[2015-11-08 09:54:31] amirmass : which charts u guys watching while trading at bitmex to decide the exact price for a position,?
[2015-11-08 09:54:40] BitMEX_Wally : But I don't think that's what you want
[2015-11-08 09:54:55] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: We are working on adding predicted liquidation price to the order entry controls
[2015-11-08 09:55:04] floopfloop : amirmass: none. Up 50% today on bankroll
[2015-11-08 09:56:04] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: vwap, lowPrice, highPrice in the instrument table, are those for the current trading session or since the instrument was listed?
[2015-11-08 09:56:21] BitMEX_Wally : Current trading session
[2015-11-08 09:56:27] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: thanks
[2015-11-08 09:57:06] amirmass : is there tradingview chart or the difference between bitfinex and bitmex price is something constant ?
[2015-11-08 10:06:26] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: how often do you adjust fair basis rate on quarterly and biquarterly? any specific times when it's adjusted?
[2015-11-08 10:06:56] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: At the moment it is manual, but we are moving to a better more automated system
[2015-11-08 10:07:33] BitMEX_Wally : Basically we will get rid of the fair price and mark everything to last price, but with protection to prevent manipulation during illiquid markets
[2015-11-08 10:09:03] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: I would like to know in a few days in advance bc it affects liquidations. I would suggest sending an email detailing new rules. I don't remember receiving an email when you changed dailies to automated system
[2015-11-08 10:09:57] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: Yes, we will send out an announcement
[2015-11-08 10:11:59] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: and please make sure the system doesn't cause $50 jumps in mark price
[2015-11-08 10:12:07] BitMEX_Wally : Of course
[2015-11-08 10:12:20] BitMEX_Wally : Those $50 jumps in price have been because of the underlying price of Bitcoin :)
[2015-11-08 10:14:25] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: I'm talking about $50 jumps in last price bc of low liquidity on quarterly when spot is basically the same. Just look at the XBTZ15 trade history. We have $427.1 and $525 in one day when spot moved $10
[2015-11-08 10:52:03] amirmass : is there a bitmex chart on tradingview
[2015-11-08 10:52:25] amirmass : how do i manage to decide the exact price for opening a position
[2015-11-08 10:57:53] billyboy402 : you have the index price , and the tradeblock price which is what the index price is base on
[2015-11-08 10:58:18] billyboy402 : the light gray price on the left in the rder book is the index price ,
[2015-11-08 10:58:35] billyboy402 : you also0 have charts on on the control tab
[2015-11-08 11:02:28] dorothy490 : BitMEX_Wally: >>Basically we will get rid of the fair price and mark everything to last price, but with protection to prevent manipulation during illiquid markets can you share more details on it?
[2015-11-08 11:02:50] dorothy490 : fair price is what makes this site perfect
[2015-11-08 11:15:17] habibi : dorothy490: agree
[2015-11-08 11:17:50] BitMEX_Wally : Basically if the last price is within a close range of the fair price it will be used for marking, otherwise it won't
[2015-11-08 11:18:19] BitMEX_Wally : So you get the benefit of fair price marking (no manipulation) with the transparency of the last price
[2015-11-08 11:19:16] habibi : thats what i am scared of, that it will be even easier to manipulate
[2015-11-08 11:22:23] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: Give me an example of how it might be manpiulated
[2015-11-08 11:23:15] dorothy490 : what is the "range of fair price" ?
[2015-11-08 11:23:25] habibi : i point the situations when price at markets dont move at all and here we have fair price moved by 2-3$ yesterday i think we have such a thing
[2015-11-08 11:23:51] BitMEX_Arthur : Long dated futures can and do move without changes in spot
[2015-11-08 11:23:56] BitMEX_Arthur : there is a large interest rate compenent
[2015-11-08 11:23:58] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: Less than the maintenance margin
[2015-11-08 11:24:46] dorothy490 : dont udnerstand
[2015-11-08 11:25:07] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: Less than 0.5%
[2015-11-08 11:25:45] dorothy490 : say I have long from 385, index price is 384 but last price is 376 what's next
[2015-11-08 11:27:19] BitMEX_Arthur : dorothy490: We will publish a written guide in conjunction with the announcement, it will answer many of your questions
[2015-11-08 11:27:50] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: In your example the last price used for marking will not go below 383 or so
[2015-11-08 11:28:07] dorothy490 : so index price +0.5%
[2015-11-08 11:28:13] dorothy490 : +-
[2015-11-08 11:28:13] BitMEX_Wally : Unless the market really is at 376 (big quotes on both sides)
[2015-11-08 11:28:32] BitMEX_Wally : Actually it.s 0.50% spread so +/- 0.25%
[2015-11-08 11:28:38] habibi : so no more premium on futures BitMEX_Wally?
[2015-11-08 11:29:05] BitMEX_Wally : There can be a premium
[2015-11-08 11:29:09] BitMEX_Wally : The fair price is not the index price
[2015-11-08 11:29:15] BitMEX_Wally : There can be a premium or dissent
[2015-11-08 11:29:18] dorothy490 : >>Unless the market really is at 376 (big quotes on both sides) sounds arbitrary what is big quotes and on which sites? What if big qutes on finex but OKC is calm, or etc
[2015-11-08 11:30:10] BitMEX_Wally : We mean on the future
[2015-11-08 11:30:21] BitMEX_Wally : If the future really is trading at 376 with large quotes and tight spread
[2015-11-08 11:30:21] dorothy490 : well if "fair price" will get range as 0.5% I can live with it indeed
[2015-11-08 11:30:53] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: Yes, we think everyone will like these changes, the goal is always to reduce surprises and prevent liquidations
[2015-11-08 11:32:45] dorothy490 : Well from as it sounds it doesnt seem to be anything "positive" for users but rather securing loss on system itself. But 0.5% range for fair price is okish at least for me
[2015-11-08 11:33:15] dorothy490 : by the way what is last time you had a system DPE loss? seems like drop 550>360 didnt caused any system loss?
[2015-11-08 11:33:32] BitMEX_Wally : Correct, we haven't had a system loss
[2015-11-08 11:36:27] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: that means u have really nice earnings :p
[2015-11-08 11:37:11] BitMEX_Wally : There are currently some liquidations that have not closed out on `XBTZ15` and `XBTH16`
[2015-11-08 11:38:11] gaoMex : It's because of the system loss fund which I had contributed. :)
[2015-11-08 11:40:14] dorothy490 : I have profitz at XBT7D. When it will be cleared? only at the next settlement?
[2015-11-08 11:41:13] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: Yes
[2015-11-08 12:03:43] amirmass : what is tge 24h volume in bitmex
[2015-11-08 12:03:44] amirmass : ?
[2015-11-08 12:03:54] dorothy490 : 24H Turnover 7,391.1052 XBT
[2015-11-08 12:04:09] dorothy490 : under "full details" within order control panel
[2015-11-08 13:03:57] kendang : why does the market move so little? is it because it is sunday?
[2015-11-08 13:04:29] sleger : no
[2015-11-08 13:10:54] habibi : consolidation, noone knows where we will go
[2015-11-08 13:13:10] BitMEX_Wally : To the moon
[2015-11-08 13:13:44] habibi : but where is the moon then ;p
[2015-11-08 13:14:12] kendang : can't wait till bitcoin is over 9000
[2015-11-08 13:14:16] kendang : ;-)
[2015-11-08 13:14:31] dorothy490 : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stars_My_Destination
[2015-11-08 13:14:44] dorothy490 : bitmex educational
[2015-11-08 13:15:09] habibi : kendang: i would be pleased to sell u some bitcoin with 90% discount - 900$
[2015-11-08 13:15:36] kendang : habibi: hehe
[2015-11-08 13:40:18] dorothy490 : BitMEX_Wally: idea: active orders tab should be grouped by instrument and there should be subtotal for each instrument too
[2015-11-08 13:43:54] sleger : i actually prefer as it is, sorted by time
[2015-11-08 13:57:00] jung1 : http://imgur.com/TEcEK1j Fibonacci says: it is still an upwards trend
[2015-11-08 14:02:52] macios15 : jung1: co tam piwko, wracam do gry wychodzi na to ze lecimy dalej tak jak planowałem grudzien 1k dolarów
[2015-11-08 14:03:27] dorothy490 : sleger: well my mainm point is about subtotals (to know that all positions are covered). As for the sorting, it can be applied on column levels
[2015-11-08 14:09:58] Scottv53 : BitMEX_Wally: Placed an order for 1500 contracts but does not appear in the postion tab or
[2015-11-08 14:10:00] Scottv53 : BitMEX_Wally: Placed an order for 1500 contracts but does not appear in the postion tab or
[2015-11-08 14:10:07] Scottv53 : BitMEX_Wally: Placed an order for 1500 contracts but does not appear in the postion tab or
[2015-11-08 14:10:07] Scottv53 : BitMEX_Wally: Placed an order for 1500 contracts but does not appear in the postion tab or
[2015-11-08 14:10:07] Scottv53 : BitMEX_Wally: Placed an order for 1500 contracts but does not appear in the postion tab or
[2015-11-08 14:10:25] Scottv53 : BitMEX_Wally: Placed an order for 1500 contracts but does not appear in the postion tab or
[2015-11-08 14:10:25] Scottv53 : BitMEX_Wally: Placed an order for 1500 contracts but does not appear in the postion tab or
[2015-11-08 14:10:25] Scottv53 : BitMEX_Wally: Placed an order for 1500 contracts but does not appear in the postion tab or
[2015-11-08 14:10:26] Scottv53 : BitMEX_Wally: Placed an order for 1500 contracts but does not appear in the postion tab or
[2015-11-08 14:10:27] dorothy490 : dont panik
[2015-11-08 14:10:41] dorothy490 : its obviously problems with your browser try to refresh.
[2015-11-08 14:10:41] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah you've probably got internet connection issues :)
[2015-11-08 14:10:43] jung1 : macios15: przejabłem troche ostatnio, ale psy szczekają karawana jedzie dalej. Ja mam mieszane uczucia i bym się nie zdziwił jakby jebło jeszcze
[2015-11-08 14:12:44] jung1 : https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/105154574/Bitcoin%20Earthquake.png
[2015-11-08 14:28:16] AudibleScience : that's a bit annoying... I was about to click to add some margin but I got liquidated because the price moved away from me too quickly...
[2015-11-08 14:29:50] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Wally: It would be really cool if you could hit a button to stop the system from liquidating you if it is about to do that and you don't want it to... like me just then.
[2015-11-08 14:31:15] roymalmberg : BitMEX_Wally: Any idea what was going on between 2014-11-15 22:00 to 2014-11-16 8:00?
[2015-11-08 14:31:43] roymalmberg : BitMEX_Wally: Price didn't move, exchane closed or some error ?
[2015-11-08 14:32:19] Scottv53 : jung1: interesting Analgy
[2015-11-08 14:32:34] roymalmberg : AudibleScience: disable isolated margin and trade smaller perhaps could help?
[2015-11-08 14:32:51] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Wally: I just lost 5k contracts because I didn't get the chance to stop the system liquidating them...
[2015-11-08 14:34:19] roymalmberg : the five stages of grief: denial, anger, blame, depression, acceptance
[2015-11-08 14:35:34] BitMEX_Wally : roymalmberg: The exchange did not launch until 29 November :)
[2015-11-08 14:36:48] roymalmberg : BitMEX_Wally: BitMEX? there is data until 6/11, could this be some fault from bitstamp/finex then?
[2015-11-08 14:37:03] roymalmberg : its in the .XBT
[2015-11-08 14:37:22] BitMEX_Wally : Might be a gap, we were building the production servers around that point
[2015-11-08 14:37:33] BitMEX_Wally : I can go and wipe all data from before 29 November :)
[2015-11-08 14:38:10] roymalmberg : BitMEX_Wally: Do as you please, the more the merrier, as long as it's correct :)
[2015-11-08 14:38:31] BitMEX_Wally : The data is correct and the gaps will be our falut
[2015-11-08 14:39:42] roymalmberg : BitMEX_Wally: I went through the data and it very good, that was the only time i noticed a longer pause
[2015-11-08 14:40:18] BitMEX_Wally : Have a look at testnet
[2015-11-08 14:40:22] BitMEX_Wally : See if there is more data there
[2015-11-08 14:40:28] BitMEX_Wally : Not sure though
[2015-11-08 14:41:17] BitMEX_Wally : Just checked, we launched BitMEX official on Monday 24 November 2014. So we're coming up for 1 year milestone
[2015-11-08 14:43:03] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Wally: did you see my suggestion? Not sure if it is useful though?
[2015-11-08 14:44:26] AudibleScience : It's always nice to help the user avoid user error... especially when it is costly.
[2015-11-08 14:45:50] BitMEX_Arthur : AudibleScience: I suggest you do not use Isolate Margin or add more margin to a position given how volatile Bitcoin is
[2015-11-08 14:46:45] roymalmberg : BitMEX_Wally: Thank you, happy early aniversary ;)
[2015-11-08 14:47:33] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Arthur: yeah I was just about to add more margin to the position...
[2015-11-08 14:49:19] kogroken : Fair price was adjusted?
[2015-11-08 14:49:33] kogroken : I see it jumped $30 for Z15
[2015-11-08 14:55:30] kogroken : Not that I'm complaining, it's closer to the actual traded price now.
[2015-11-08 14:57:12] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Arthur: it was user error for sure... I just thought it would be nice to have a way to stop the system... but maybe I haven't got the amount of experience to make my suggestions worthwhile yet? Definitely don't want to bug anyone about it though...
[2015-11-08 14:58:04] BitMEX_Arthur : We understand the motivation, but for the highly leveraged contracts, if a position enters liquidation we must attempt to close it out immediately so that there is no DPE
[2015-11-08 14:58:36] dorothy490 : AudibleScience: nex time do like this: open any order (maybe unreachable at current order book) then make it isolated and add margin. then create a proper market or limit order and delete the first "fiction" order
[2015-11-08 14:58:54] dorothy490 : that way youll start with isolated position on margin you want
[2015-11-08 14:59:37] laisee : recent trades list does not seem to be reloading when I switch from 7D to Z15 & vice versa.t
[2015-11-08 15:03:25] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Arthur: yeah... but my account had enough equity in it man! I was just starting to use the isolated margin feature (which is really cool by the way)... but never mind... another half coin bites the dust! Never mind, I won't do it again...
[2015-11-08 15:04:32] AudibleScience : dorothy490: yeah... that's a good idea... thanks...
[2015-11-08 15:07:07] AudibleScience : I was just too slow to add more margin to the position... it isn't like I wasn't right here watching the charts... I just thought (my mistake) I had more time... but alas I did not! lol The rug was pulled right out from under me before I had the chance to react...
[2015-11-08 15:07:46] AudibleScience : But I should not have been reacting... I should have been anticipating all the way!
[2015-11-08 15:07:55] dorothy490 : they will add possibility to choose initial margin when opening position
[2015-11-08 15:08:19] dorothy490 : so then you'll choose like x25 margin and wouldn't be liquidated that easy
[2015-11-08 15:09:25] AudibleScience : Very cool... especially when the equity in the account is very low...
[2015-11-08 15:30:36] laisee : trading is full of lessons, possibly this is one to profit from next time ...
[2015-11-08 15:32:29] Scottv53 : did not anticipate that spike.
[2015-11-08 15:48:47] zanza : orderbook is kinda dried up :/
[2015-11-08 15:49:36] sleger : you have 10btc worth within 1 point spread
[2015-11-08 15:55:52] AudibleScience : With 1/2 a coin lost today... and only 1/4 of a coin left in my account right now... I'm tempted to not trade again until I have a bit more equity in my account...
[2015-11-08 15:56:17] AudibleScience : But then I had another idea...
[2015-11-08 15:57:21] AudibleScience : A sort of trading game!
[2015-11-08 15:58:42] AudibleScience : So... If anyone wants to make a trade suggestion, and it makes a profit on settlement... you can keep half the profit!!
[2015-11-08 15:59:42] zanza : i could just steer you into buying a bad offer i put up
[2015-11-08 15:59:54] zanza : if i was bad
[2015-11-08 16:00:06] AudibleScience : zanza: lol
[2015-11-08 16:00:24] AudibleScience : yeah... but you're here!
[2015-11-08 16:01:08] AudibleScience : I'm taking it as a kind of given that everyone in here is cool!
[2015-11-08 16:01:22] zanza : we are by default all betting against eachother here
[2015-11-08 16:01:27] zanza : thats how futures work
[2015-11-08 16:01:44] zanza : so wrong assumption =]
[2015-11-08 16:03:44] AudibleScience : I know man... but it's just 1/4 of a coin... and although it's true that we're all sort of betting against one another... I just thought it would be a pretty cool game to play instead of doing nothing with it...
[2015-11-08 16:05:07] zanza : ok then, short the `XBTZ15`
[2015-11-08 16:07:01] AudibleScience : zanza: lol should have specified I was thinking of the 24H... but if you're serious...
[2015-11-08 16:07:17] AudibleScience : maybe man...
[2015-11-08 16:08:18] AudibleScience : I've only ever traded that once before, so not familiar with it's dynamics at all...
[2015-11-08 16:08:22] zanza : since this site has 0 banking ties, I feel like they should move 100% out of the US and open up trading to US.
[2015-11-08 16:09:22] zanza : Aub, its a safe bet but you wont see a return until 47 days
[2015-11-08 16:11:38] zanza : unless there is a price movement between then
[2015-11-08 16:12:30] AudibleScience : zanza: sorry, man! that was total BS! I just realised which instrument you were talking about... and I am now forced to admit (rather ashamed of myself) about it too that I have never traded that instrument! :(
[2015-11-08 16:13:06] AudibleScience : lol
[2015-11-08 16:13:46] roymalmberg : yolo
[2015-11-08 16:14:01] nickhnt : why the DPE on XBTH16 is so high?
[2015-11-08 16:15:09] BitMEX_Wally : The open interest is only 42,000 contracts but there is an unfilled liquidation order for 27,600 contracts
[2015-11-08 16:15:18] sleger : what price ?
[2015-11-08 16:15:24] BitMEX_Wally : 467.69
[2015-11-08 16:16:02] nickhnt : BitMEX_Wally: if no one sell to him the DPE will go higher?
[2015-11-08 16:16:16] BitMEX_Wally : The DPE is a function of the mark price
[2015-11-08 16:16:29] BitMEX_Wally : If the mark price is at or below 467.69 then the DPE is 0%
[2015-11-08 16:17:43] nickhnt : so if the contract settlement was today, 47% of our profits would go to him?
[2015-11-08 16:17:52] nickhnt : i didnt understand
[2015-11-08 16:18:05] BitMEX_Wally : For anyone who has a profit on XBTH16 this week
[2015-11-08 16:18:46] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation
[2015-11-08 16:19:28] nickhnt : BitMEX_Wally: the DPE can be close to 100%?
[2015-11-08 16:19:36] nickhnt : thx Ill read that
[2015-11-08 16:19:37] zanza : XBT24H turned negative now :/
[2015-11-08 16:20:01] AudibleScience : zanza: I literally have only 0.2506 in my account right now... and I've put myself on a deliberate steep learning curve... So I was really thinking our little game would be best played on the highest leverage, to have some hope of recovering some of my loss from today.
[2015-11-08 16:20:03] BitMEX_Wally : nickhnt: Yes it can approach 100%. Basically the winners can only get what the losers have to lose
[2015-11-08 16:20:24] zanza : AudibleScience: thats just gambling man
[2015-11-08 16:20:31] nickhnt : BitMEX_Wally: thx Wally
[2015-11-08 16:20:41] zanza : i dont mind though, just giving you the best advice i would do
[2015-11-08 16:20:49] BitMEX_Wally : zanza: `XBT24H` is trading $1.24 below spot so the 'fairBasisRate' is negative
[2015-11-08 16:21:30] AudibleScience : zanza: lol I know man!
[2015-11-08 16:23:49] AudibleScience : That's why I called it a game...
[2015-11-08 16:28:24] AudibleScience : zanza: But you know what... because these futures we're trading are based on an underlying asset that none of us could really control...
[2015-11-08 16:29:22] AudibleScience : So although we're taking each side of a trade... we're just betting we know better than the counter-party of our trades that we know where the market is going , and have the level of equity to absorb the market doing the opposite thing first...
[2015-11-08 16:30:19] AudibleScience : FYI I just did a trade, so don't have that 1/4 of a coin there at the moment. lol
[2015-11-08 16:38:44] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Wally: are you still here?
[2015-11-08 16:40:09] BitMEX_Wally : AudibleScience: Helllo
[2015-11-08 16:41:43] AudibleScience : I just realised something really fundamental! (And sorry I was so stupid! lol) The button I was asking about is kind of there already! It's the isolate margin box. All I had to do was just untick it! no?
[2015-11-08 16:44:34] AudibleScience : that would indeed have immediately released the remainder of the balance in the account into available margin for that position... and stopped the system in it's tracks right?
[2015-11-08 16:45:44] sleger : right
[2015-11-08 16:47:17] AudibleScience : the worst part is, that I already kind of knew that... so I feel like an extra special level of dumb right now...
[2015-11-08 16:48:59] sleger : don't worry you have great company here, it's not called a trollbox for no reason ;)
[2015-11-08 16:49:26] BitMEX_Wally : This is the friendliest trollbox ever
[2015-11-08 16:49:33] kendang : maybe trollbox should be renamed. sounds a bit childish for a serious company
[2015-11-08 16:50:06] BitMEX_Wally : We'll think about it
[2015-11-08 16:56:19] AudibleScience : I love the trollbox
[2015-11-08 16:56:32] AudibleScience : I have a quick maths based question...
[2015-11-08 16:58:10] sleger : 2
[2015-11-08 16:58:51] AudibleScience : If I have a 1500k long in profit, is it better to take it and then go long again... or is if more profitable to simply extent the long you already have?
[2015-11-08 16:59:17] sleger : that's not a math question
[2015-11-08 17:00:10] AudibleScience : no?
[2015-11-08 17:00:36] sleger : better in what terms ?
[2015-11-08 17:00:51] sleger : why would one be more profitable ?
[2015-11-08 17:01:46] BitMEX_Wally : Profit from A to B plus B to C is the same as from A to C. Except you will pay 2 lots of fees
[2015-11-08 17:02:01] BitMEX_Wally : You cannot re-leverage profit so there's no point