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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-06-29 18:45:59] BitMEX_Sam : There is one so far that you can use, `window.BitMEX.getDataStream` [2016-06-29 18:49:10] BitMEX_Sam : I'd recommend using the API directly though. There are starter projects at https://github.com/BitMEX/api-connectors and https://github.com/BitMEX/market-maker/ [2016-06-29 18:51:01] mike1000 : Thanks, Sam, I'll check that out [2016-06-29 20:00:48] jung1 : hello traders of the future [2016-06-29 20:01:52] Mr Blue : jung1: afternoon sir [2016-06-29 20:02:48] jung1 : https://www.blockchain.com/ imo best bitcoin site so far [2016-06-29 20:04:03] Mr Blue : What about blockchain.info ? haha I'm more of a circle.com man my self, like to lick elite ass [2016-06-29 20:04:44] BitMEX_Sam : That's a larger team than I would have guessed [2016-06-29 20:04:49] BitMEX_Sam : https://www.blockchain.com/about/ [2016-06-29 20:05:25] jung1 : yeah + they still looking for new people [2016-06-29 20:05:32] BitMEX_Sam : They must have something in dev [2016-06-29 20:05:41] BitMEX_Sam : .info can't be making any serious $ [2016-06-29 20:07:21] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: is bitmex sold some shares? or its 100% yours? [2016-06-29 20:07:44] BitMEX_Sam : Belongs to us entirely, aside from some very minor fundraising [2016-06-29 20:08:04] BitMEX_Sam : Nice thing about being crypto-only is that starting up is not capital-intensive [2016-06-29 20:08:20] jung1 : knowlege is very expensive [2016-06-29 20:08:36] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, development is expensive, but it's just opportunity costs when the founders are developers [2016-06-29 20:08:54] jung1 : but with that kind of new technologies is also quite dangerous that technology will fail [2016-06-29 20:09:09] jung1 : no risk no fun [2016-06-29 20:09:11] BitMEX_Sam : Yes. We're a general-purpose trading engine, the currency could be moved at will if necessary [2016-06-29 20:09:16] BitMEX_Sam : Calculated risk. [2016-06-29 20:11:29] jung1 : do you have any timeline about bitmex growth? new languages etc [2016-06-29 20:11:40] BitMEX_Sam : New langs are coming very soon [2016-06-29 20:12:02] BitMEX_Sam : We're probably a week or so from merging the new i18n code into production, then another week or so to get the translators to do their magic [2016-06-29 20:12:11] BitMEX_Sam : Once one language is in, many more are easy [2016-06-29 20:12:24] jung1 : where can I apply? [2016-06-29 20:12:28] jung1 : : ) [2016-06-29 20:12:39] BitMEX_Sam : You speak German right? [2016-06-29 20:13:09] BitMEX_Sam : I think I recall you speaking it much better than I do. I could do about 70% of the interface but I'm sure I would have issues with the finance terms [2016-06-29 20:13:37] BitMEX_Sam : I'm less concerned about european translations in general since English is so pervasive in those countries. The biggest win is providing access to those who would not have it otherwise [2016-06-29 20:14:33] Mr Blue : Spanish / Portuguese would be good, we need some of that Latin American drug money up in here lol [2016-06-29 20:14:48] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: polish [2016-06-29 20:15:51] BitMEX_Sam : Ah right. [2016-06-29 20:15:52] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : BitMEX_Sam: Did you guys change anything after last weeks DPE? Or are you guys working on something to prevent such large DPE's? [2016-06-29 20:16:19] BitMEX_Sam : seafvasvsdvasvasdv: We have been limiting overall position sizes at 500 XBT to help ease liquidations [2016-06-29 20:16:23] Mr Blue : Chinese can be funny, I'd what symbols they find lucky then planted the site with them if was my exchange lol [2016-06-29 20:16:43] BitMEX_Sam : Mr Blue: There are some obnoxious things, like green/red must be switched with the Chinese version [2016-06-29 20:16:52] BitMEX_Sam : They have opposite connotations vs. the rest of the world [2016-06-29 20:16:59] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : BitMEX_Sam: But users can create more accounts... will that help? [2016-06-29 20:17:09] BitMEX_Sam : It will, because their liquidation prices would be different [2016-06-29 20:17:20] BitMEX_Sam : It's not a perfect solution but it helps [2016-06-29 20:17:26] BitMEX_Sam : We are working on additional mitigation strategies [2016-06-29 20:17:35] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : BitMEX_Sam: Yes, I guess it will help a bit. [2016-06-29 20:18:27] BitMEX_Sam : In general DPE only happens in exceptional circumstances. We had a few users doing very outsized positions at the same time the market shifted intensely [2016-06-29 20:18:30] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : Better create a system where you liquidate users in some steps.. Now BitMex is a gamble pardise, not good for arbitrage. [2016-06-29 20:18:55] BitMEX_Sam : As much as we wish it were possible, one product cannot be all things to all people [2016-06-29 20:18:58] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Sam: ye I hear they find red lucky or something, casinos have had to redesign just because Chinese find things unlucky, surely they must have some lucky animal BitMex could use as a logo [2016-06-29 20:19:17] BitMEX_Sam : It cannot be great for hedgers, great for speculators, simple and fulfill all needs all in one product. [2016-06-29 20:19:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 63445 @ 643.68 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: [2016-06-29 20:19:55] BitMEX_Sam : Liquidating users incrementally is not really possible with 50bps maintenance margin [2016-06-29 20:20:12] BitMEX_Sam : The engine is capable of doing it, we built that out for the old XBU series which was 3.3x/5x [2016-06-29 20:20:46] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : BitMEX_Sam: I understand it's difficult to find the best solution. [2016-06-29 20:21:07] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : 50x gambling brings a lot of people to the exchange.. [2016-06-29 20:21:07] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Sam: https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=tablet-android-lenovo&q=most+lucky+symbols+to+chinese&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj22MrLh87NAhXmD8AKHfZKCaoQvwUIFygA&biw=1280&bih=800#imgrc=50fZC37WNbx0JM%3A good luck charms could be added to main page design [2016-06-29 20:21:38] BitMEX_Sam : Yes. Liquidity is #1 seafvasvsdvasvasdv [2016-06-29 20:21:59] BitMEX_Sam : Everything else is secondary. Traders go where markets are liquid. The swap has certain compromises but i t has significantly improved liquidity. [2016-06-29 20:23:36] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : BitMEX_Sam: Agree. Also Chinese translation will bring liquidity. ;) [2016-06-29 20:23:45] BitMEX_Sam : :+1: That's the idea [2016-06-29 20:23:53] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : Bring em in! :) [2016-06-29 20:24:00] BitMEX_Sam : We're also working on sharing products with other exchanges, especially in Japan/Korea [2016-06-29 20:24:07] BitMEX_Sam : XBJ24H is already live on quoine.com [2016-06-29 20:24:27] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: make bitmexshares that will payout some % of fees for owners and make a market here to trade them. Coins from those shares you can use to improve liquidity [2016-06-29 20:24:28] BitMEX_Sam : Their book is our book. All orders execute here even though they appear to be Quoine's engine. [2016-06-29 20:24:31] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : So you can trade on Quoine the same as here? [2016-06-29 20:24:38] BitMEX_Sam : seafvasvsdvasvasdv: Yes, just on XBJ24H though. [2016-06-29 20:24:49] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : Huh, interesting. [2016-06-29 20:24:54] BitMEX_Sam : Notice the book (https://www.quoine.com/app/#/app/market/futures) [2016-06-29 20:25:06] BitMEX_Sam : Their chart has a bug right now so there's a big empty space in the middle, unfortunately [2016-06-29 20:26:39] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : I see. [2016-06-29 20:27:33] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : Where's the main trading engine? Here at bitmex or at Quoine? [2016-06-29 20:29:07] jung1 : dao +15% [2016-06-29 20:29:08] jung1 : wtf [2016-06-29 20:29:26] BitMEX_Sam : Here [2016-06-29 20:29:44] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : Ok [2016-06-29 20:30:07] BitMEX_Sam : Every market listed here will be run on our engine [2016-06-29 20:39:08] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : Good to know. [2016-06-29 21:20:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 800 @ 65670.0 [2016-06-29 21:21:20] Tetsuo : The DAO is safe again. ETH will go to the moon! BTC is dead! [2016-06-29 21:23:51] Mr Blue : Lol [2016-06-29 21:23:58] sq : Tetsuo: ? [2016-06-29 21:25:41] Blargwaffle : IRC...? [2016-06-29 21:28:44] jung1 : bitcoin is dead since 2009 [2016-06-29 21:34:39] Blargwaffle : Wally, or whoever BitMEX_*. Figured out my Google Auth key issue, your end doesn't assume a leading 0 and mine doesn't pad with one. [2016-06-29 21:35:06] BitMEX_Sam : Oh, that's an odd client Blargwaffle [2016-06-29 21:35:19] BitMEX_Sam : The leading 0 is generally considered significant [2016-06-29 21:36:21] Blargwaffle : Guess the client is trying to save me some bytes, hah. [2016-06-29 21:55:22] jung1 : protip: buy sia http://bravenewcoin.com/news/decentralized-cloud-storage-sia-launches-version-1-0-with-full-functionality/ [2016-06-29 21:55:25] jung1 : 18s now [2016-06-29 21:55:45] BitMEX_Sam : Cool project. [2016-06-29 21:56:05] BitMEX_Sam : `“As of January 2016, storage is about $2.25/TB/month with 6x redundancy.”` [2016-06-29 21:56:08] BitMEX_Sam : That will certainly change [2016-06-29 21:56:51] BitMEX_Sam : Calling it 1.0 is good marketing [2016-06-29 21:58:56] jung1 : yeah [2016-06-29 21:59:04] jung1 : they could be better than storj [2016-06-29 22:13:37] jung1 : IM thinking of cloudmine some sia [2016-06-29 22:17:28] jung1 : https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/748246224357167106 pump is comming [2016-06-29 22:28:07] jung1 : https://www.bitfinex.com/changelog finex 2.0 [2016-06-29 22:38:43] BitMEX_Sam : LOL. Oh man. They incremented like they ran out of versions [2016-06-29 22:39:51] BitMEX_Sam : The last version was 1.9.9 [2016-06-29 22:41:12] zanza : priced in jung1 [2016-06-29 22:46:00] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: at least they tried [2016-06-29 22:46:28] BitMEX_Sam : Nice to see they're at least concatenating their javascript now [2016-06-29 22:47:59] jung1 : what about mobile version of bitmex? [2016-06-29 22:48:17] BitMEX_Sam : Coming some day [2016-06-29 22:48:31] BitMEX_Sam : Ramping up the frontend team. Has been just me for 2 1/2 years [2016-06-29 22:49:48] jung1 : funny fact: "sam" means "alone" in polish [2016-06-29 22:50:04] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, my head always turns when my wife uses that word [2016-06-29 22:55:29] Mr Blue : Lol I just pulled some skin off my back the size of an A4 sheet of paper, gotta be able to sell this crap to a cannibal or something, skin coated chocolate I charge only 10 Bitcoin lmao [2016-06-29 22:57:00] BitMEX_Sam : Glad I know that. [2016-06-29 22:59:02] jung1 : Mr Blue: sell it on openbaazar [2016-06-29 23:00:01] Mr Blue : jung1: haha you think would sell?? Some sick people in this world I know ? [2016-06-29 23:00:18] jung1 : yeah you can try [2016-06-29 23:00:24] jung1 : fully anonymous [2016-06-29 23:00:25] Rado : Mr Blue are you raptelian? [2016-06-29 23:01:06] Mr Blue : Rado: haha no just too much sun I think, though it looks like snake skin [2016-06-29 23:01:43] Mr Blue : jung1: hmm cool I'll check it out, don't want police at my door for feeding the cannibals lol [2016-06-29 23:01:46] Rado : Sam also the same in Bulgarian [2016-06-29 23:02:26] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: so in eastern europe you would be forever alone [2016-06-29 23:02:30] Mr Blue : Rado: I'm home now was too hot for me lol [2016-06-29 23:02:52] Rado : Yes, getting hot now [2016-06-29 23:09:49] jung1 : sia +5% since I post it here [2016-06-29 23:09:54] jung1 : be kind to me guys [2016-06-29 23:09:57] jung1 : I knkow things [2016-06-29 23:12:17] STRML : :+1: [2016-06-29 23:12:32] BitMEX_Sam : There we go. Sorry for the IRC bouncer outage. [2016-06-29 23:12:44] BitMEX_Sam : Ah it is still broken - only going one way. [2016-06-29 23:29:30] jung1 : imo this will happen [2016-06-29 23:29:32] jung1 : http://i.imgur.com/BLbBZlZ.png [2016-06-29 23:42:23] QuantFocus : amazing chart @jung1 :thumbsup: [2016-06-29 23:53:05] jung1 : go long or go home [2016-06-29 23:55:21] zanza : looking like a teacup formation [2016-06-30 00:31:34] rapidtrades : zanza: https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/4qgjxg/shortterm_spy_analysis_cool_kid_on_a_skateboard/ [2016-06-30 00:34:24] jung1 : https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_sc [2016-06-30 00:34:33] jung1 : <put sunglasses on> [2016-06-30 00:40:50] mbaril : jung1: ahahha I hope so. Got some siacoin also [2016-06-30 00:40:58] mbaril : any reason why this would go up ? [2016-06-30 00:41:17] jung1 : they already release 1.0 version [2016-06-30 00:41:17] jung1 : and its cheap as hell [2016-06-30 00:41:22] jung1 : + good team [2016-06-30 00:41:42] mbaril : ok 1.0 could be good [2016-06-30 00:41:50] mbaril : seems to be appreciated so far [2016-06-30 00:42:34] jung1 : and its right after first dump [2016-06-30 00:42:37] jung1 : couse of that [2016-06-30 00:42:49] jung1 : so now is only one way to go [2016-06-30 00:42:58] jung1 : x5 - x10 imo [2016-06-30 00:45:42] mbaril : hum there is a lot of siacoin dont think it can go that high [2016-06-30 00:45:47] mbaril : I will keep a eye on it to see [2016-06-30 00:52:03] rapidtrades : anyone used a zenbook? or a lenovo yoga? [2016-06-30 00:53:07] jung1 : I have lenovo yoga [2016-06-30 00:53:09] jung1 : '11 [2016-06-30 00:54:13] rapidtrades : jung1: whatt's it like? any issues [2016-06-30 00:54:36] jung1 : well not bad [2016-06-30 00:54:52] jung1 : but better option is to buy pc tablet imo [2016-06-30 00:54:54] jung1 : like http://www.aliexpress.com/item/12-Chuwi-Hi12-Dual-OS-Windows-10-Android-5-1-Tablet-PC-Intel-Cherry-Trail-Atom/32659312097.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.47.8REXTr&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_7,searchweb201602_4_10037_10017_405_404_507_10033_10032_10040,searchweb201603_2&btsid=e3ad9c59-7850-4781-a530-79d6f3793d6e [2016-06-30 00:55:14] fineregex : why is unrealized PNL != withheld profit [2016-06-30 00:55:24] rapidtrades : no tablet...looking for a laptop [2016-06-30 00:55:38] jung1 : you can use it as normal pc with keyboard on windows and only tablet with android [2016-06-30 00:55:53] jung1 : battery is a bit shitty [2016-06-30 00:56:04] jung1 : but with powerbank is quite ok [2016-06-30 00:56:07] rapidtrades : wait what.....u mean it switches to android when it tablet mode [2016-06-30 00:56:13] jung1 : yes [2016-06-30 00:56:16] rapidtrades : how is that even possible [2016-06-30 00:56:21] jung1 : china [2016-06-30 00:56:28] jung1 : deal with it [2016-06-30 00:56:49] rapidtrades : so i can't use my windows apps in tablet mode? [2016-06-30 00:57:11] jung1 : shure you can [2016-06-30 00:57:24] rapidtrades : jung1: what's powerbank and how much does ur battery last [2016-06-30 00:58:19] jung1 : I have xiaomi 20000 mAh in my bag all the time [2016-06-30 00:58:36] rapidtrades : loool 20,0000? [2016-06-30 00:58:51] jung1 : but this lenovo when you use internet and have quite bright screen allow for 5h of work [2016-06-30 00:58:54] rapidtrades : that's crazy [2016-06-30 00:59:06] jung1 : like 40$ [2016-06-30 00:59:08] jung1 : worth it [2016-06-30 00:59:13] jung1 : ; ) [2016-06-30 00:59:31] rapidtrades : and that extends the battery or is it a replacement....how does it work [2016-06-30 00:59:52] jung1 : you just plug laptop to it [2016-06-30 01:00:11] rapidtrades : ah i see [2016-06-30 01:00:27] jung1 : or phone [2016-06-30 01:00:33] jung1 : up to you [2016-06-30 01:01:00] rapidtrades : how much does that help...usually its 5h and with powerbank is what [2016-06-30 01:01:20] jung1 : like x2 x3 more [2016-06-30 01:01:26] rapidtrades : dam.... [2016-06-30 01:01:30] rapidtrades : like dam.... [2016-06-30 01:01:53] rapidtrades : $40 is a lot cheaper then getting a replacement battery right [2016-06-30 01:02:22] rapidtrades : plus replacing the battery will shutdown ur computer [2016-06-30 01:05:17] rapidtrades : jung1: so would u recommend the yoga? or do u wish u bought smth else? [2016-06-30 01:13:42] jung1 : depends what you need it for [2016-06-30 01:14:31] jung1 : but its ok [2016-06-30 01:14:41] jung1 : buy this also http://www.mi.com/en/pb16000/ [2016-06-30 01:15:17] jung1 : finex droping [2016-06-30 01:17:48] rapidtrades : jung1: why a second powerbank? [2016-06-30 01:18:47] jung1 : couse build in battery allow you to work max 5h [2016-06-30 01:19:30] rapidtrades : ok but u already showed me the 20k powerbank...why do i need two of them [2016-06-30 01:19:54] jung1 : now [2016-06-30 01:20:03] jung1 : one powerbank is enough [2016-06-30 01:20:05] rapidtrades : PBOC sets USD/CNY mid-point today at 6.6312 (vs. yesterday at 6.6324) [2016-06-30 01:24:46] jung1 : check this http://slidenjoy.com/en/ [2016-06-30 01:29:09] rapidtrades : dam...tech advancing so fast [2016-06-30 01:29:46] jung1 : finex dumping [2016-06-30 01:29:48] jung1 : still [2016-06-30 01:34:08] Rado : that's cool jung1 [2016-06-30 01:34:18] Rado : the slidenjoy [2016-06-30 01:34:30] fww : No liquidity here... It seems :( [2016-06-30 01:38:22] Rado : how much liquidity do you need fww? [2016-06-30 01:41:01] jung1 : up we go [2016-06-30 01:51:06] jung1 : now you have liquidity [2016-06-30 02:02:21] fww : no operations in about an hour on ETHXBT [2016-06-30 02:08:49] NukeLaloosh : why is pboc tightening? [2016-06-30 02:35:59] jung1 : finex 640 [2016-06-30 03:02:42] jung1 : http://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2016/06/29/getting-closer-to-a-bitcoin-etf-winklevoss-trust-chooses-new-exchange/#30b1bb5325f8 [2016-06-30 03:03:57] rapidtrades : f*ck forbes [2016-06-30 03:04:35] subjective : Shorts jump in when price fall out of a rise wedge right? [2016-06-30 03:11:57] rapidtrades : finex with another interface change [2016-06-30 03:12:18] rapidtrades : how about u deal with ur shity lag first instead of these gay cosmetics [2016-06-30 03:45:29] jung1 : ok Im putting buy orders at 630 [2016-06-30 04:13:47] 1QaZxSw2 : rapidtrades: by lag do you mean gemini? [2016-06-30 04:17:42] zanza : Winkevoss ETF = dump hard = priced in [2016-06-30 05:30:13] Mr Blue : ETF = fake paper bullshit, I pity the fool who invests and then thinks they own Bitcoin [2016-06-30 05:31:31] Mr Blue : No love you don't own shit, all you own is a paper promise from the winkevoss saying they'll hold the Bitcoin for you lmao [2016-06-30 05:34:30] germanjew : at best the ETF gives you exposure to price movements while the winkelvi are collecting trading fees [2016-06-30 05:35:21] Mr Blue : Are investors so retarded, that they can't make their own real Bitcoin paper wallets ?? Possibly.. but I for one would rather hold real Bitcoin I can send spend and trade. [2016-06-30 05:37:27] Mr Blue : germanjew: or worse trading with other people's coins to manipulate the market, because they're so stupid they accepted a paper promise [2016-06-30 05:42:24] Mr Blue : Well think I'm going long today, just waiting on a good drop to get in on [2016-06-30 05:44:41] Mr Blue : Tomorrow is the start of the block reward halving month, as if I wouldn't be going long [2016-06-30 05:49:55] Mr Blue : Wtf guys I'd like to see 630 ? [2016-06-30 05:54:02] Mr Blue : The Chinese will not buy the ETF, they still trying to get the gold from the ETFs or w.e futures bullshit America sold them.. so hopefully they'll only buy real Bitcoin. [2016-06-30 07:18:27] rapidtrades : http://news.forexlive.com/!/pboc-said-to-be-willing-to-let-yuan-fall-to-68-vs-usd-this-year-20160630 [2016-06-30 07:26:54] ethexio : Perpetual seems iffy.. [2016-06-30 07:32:52] rapidtrades : how [2016-06-30 07:39:05] rapidtrades : ethexio: how [2016-06-30 07:44:31] ethexio : I'm not sure. Just did quick trade, closes higher on a long and upl shows negative. I think. [2016-06-30 07:45:18] ethexio : It's been a long day, maybe misreading [2016-06-30 07:47:39] ethexio : Probably misreading [2016-06-30 07:58:49] BitMEX_Wally : ethexio: If you have closed a position then you do not have any unrealised PNL [2016-06-30 07:59:14] BitMEX_Wally : You made a profit on that trade and you can see the profit pending in your wallet: https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet [2016-06-30 08:00:32] mike1000 : Are there any Android tickers/clients that support BitMEX API? [2016-06-30 08:01:38] zanza : Chrome :o [2016-06-30 08:03:14] mike1000 : I tried Chrome. Chart box seems slow and hard to navigate on it. Maybe it's just my phone issues [2016-06-30 08:03:59] mike1000 : There are tradings apps that run smooth., but they don't support BitMEX [2016-06-30 08:04:18] BitMEX_Arthur : mike1000: what do you use? [2016-06-30 08:04:44] BitMEX_Arthur : Tabtrader is working on integrating us but I think they need more push from their users to speed up the integration [2016-06-30 08:05:06] mike1000 : Yeah, I use TabTrader [2016-06-30 08:05:15] mike1000 : I'll request bitMEX support for sure [2016-06-30 08:05:39] BitMEX_Arthur : ok that seems to be one of the most popular, I will make a note of that to chase them a bit more [2016-06-30 08:07:18] mike1000 : They also lack percent change alerts (only exact price alerts) and 6H time frame on chart, but other than that the app is great. [2016-06-30 08:07:23] mike1000 : BTW, percent alerts can be set up in Bitcoin Checker app as a workaround, IT also need BitMEX support [2016-06-30 08:08:13] mike1000 : Bitcoin Checker also needs BitMEX support - a very popular ticker [2016-06-30 08:08:44] mike1000 : https://github.com/mobnetic/BitcoinChecker It is possible to offer a pull request with integration on their GitHub [2016-06-30 08:09:57] BitMEX_Arthur : Cool thanks for the feedback [2016-06-30 08:14:01] mike1000 : Also a feedback about BitMEX: it would be great to be able to issue Trailing Stop Limit orders on frontend (I know they exist in API) [2016-06-30 08:16:34] BitMEX_Wally : You can submit a trailing stop limit but the limit price is fixed [2016-06-30 08:16:37] BitMEX_Wally : (via the API) [2016-06-30 08:17:28] BitMEX_Wally : The limit price is not recalculated based on the trailing offset [2016-06-30 08:18:48] mike1000 : Yeah, that's just a trigger price, if I don't want to activate the order immediately but when the price goes to my favor. [2016-06-30 08:20:27] fineregex : BitMEX_Wally: got a suggestion too again. I was the only one trading XBTUSD since >30minutes. Next to marketdepth chart there should be a traded volume over time chart (and/or chart of amout of users online) [2016-06-30 08:21:01] BitMEX_Wally : As the engine does not support adjusting the limit price of trailing stop orders, we can't expose it on the frontend because it won't do what user's expect [2016-06-30 08:21:38] BitMEX_Wally : fineregex: There is volume at the bottom of the price chart [2016-06-30 08:21:58] fineregex : lol, i may be sleepy [2016-06-30 08:23:27] BitMEX_Wally : Now we support full order book depth on the frontend we will look into a depth chart [2016-06-30 08:25:08] fineregex : i guess most bitmex activity is USA timezone [2016-06-30 08:28:13] fineregex : i dont understand why pro.btcc.com (very similar to XBTUSD perpetual) doesnt seem to do (much/any) hedging, when they could even easier than bitmex, through their own spot exchange market - but instead it has even significantly less activity [2016-06-30 08:28:55] fineregex : i mean (trading-) activity [2016-06-30 08:29:36] fineregex : (volume and number of trades) [2016-06-30 09:39:02] mike1000 : How are leaderboard scores calculated? Absolute account PNL or minus withdrawals? [2016-06-30 09:40:28] BitMEX_Wally : Account PNL ignoring withdrawals/deposits [2016-06-30 09:45:34] mike1000 : Is it possible to view larger selection of leaders via API? Like, top 100? [2016-06-30 09:56:21] macios15 : rekt incoming? [2016-06-30 09:56:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 700 @ 66220.0 [2016-06-30 09:57:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 5920 @ 66846.0 [2016-06-30 09:59:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1350 @ 650.69 [2016-06-30 10:03:13] justinlooking : how many did he do at 645? [2016-06-30 10:03:18] justinlooking : looked like a fuckton [2016-06-30 10:04:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2201 @ 652.40 [2016-06-30 10:05:12] justinlooking : about 200k by looks of it [2016-06-30 10:16:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 129 @ 0.01883 [2016-06-30 10:17:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCTXBT`: Sell 10 @ 0.002302 [2016-06-30 10:19:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 1116 @ 0.01875 [2016-06-30 10:58:50] zanza : https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4qk7et/wow_chinese_miners_revolt_and_announce_terminator/ [2016-06-30 11:03:47] RoftheN : Interesting, so what will happen? [2016-06-30 11:15:42] BitMEX_Wally : Bitcoin to the moon hopefully [2016-06-30 11:16:40] RoftheN : Why? [2016-06-30 11:30:57] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Wally: if i get rekt but buy/sell it back once it hits the order book, do i have a loss? [2016-06-30 11:31:50] Mr Blue : RoftheN: if miners show they have the power to evolve Bitcoin and we're not already too decentralised an spread out with no clear head... then Bitcoin can pick and choose future advancements, from other blockchains if needed after code has been proven... however could also be a bad thing, why not there why not activate POS? Would mess with the max supply / currency limit, not sure people would vote for that, but it's a slippery path... so to sum up I just had a rant for no reason lol as I still don't no if will increase or decrease, but I'm going to say increase lol, who knows maybe it won't take another 4 years for next block reward halving before we hit $10,000 [2016-06-30 11:32:27] Mr Blue : Why stop there* [2016-06-30 11:35:10] RoftheN : But I don't understand what's so bad about Core [2016-06-30 11:35:18] RoftheN : Didn't they make Segwit? [2016-06-30 11:36:11] writlarge : Core is great, they're the top developers in the crypto world. I think miners deciding to fork to classic could become very bad news, especially if developers start quitting [2016-06-30 11:36:40] germanjew : The miners can't screw with stuff like the currency limit (or rather run sw that supports that) because then BTC would tank and they can't mine anymore [2016-06-30 11:37:22] writlarge : i doubt miners would do that in the first place, they're not evil - they're just not the best people to make complex technical decisions on bitcoin's future [2016-06-30 11:58:36] germanjew : Remember that a lot of what makes bitcoin work is that there is a majority of good actors in the system, or at least good actors that play by the economic rules [2016-06-30 12:03:44] Mr Blue : WTF my order just got filled buy 5000 at 60000 but then it changed before my eyes [2016-06-30 12:04:12] Mr Blue : On Yen market [2016-06-30 12:05:28] Mr Blue : What's going on here! [2016-06-30 12:06:41] Mr Blue : If bots made a mistake, so what I was sold to at that price, then market data changed before my eyes lol [2016-06-30 12:07:53] rullwull : 24 h contract [2016-06-30 12:08:19] rullwull : it was settled 8 minutes aga [2016-06-30 12:08:25] BitMEX_Wally : NukeLaloosh: If you get REKT and then hit your own liquidation order you'll still have a loss from trading fees, and loss of partial maintenance margin [2016-06-30 12:08:31] BitMEX_Wally : Mr Blue: Let me have a look [2016-06-30 12:09:05] NukeLaloosh : what is the amount of the partial maintenance margin? [2016-06-30 12:09:11] Mr Blue : Bullshit, I was sold to, all my orders have gone, box came up saying trades had happened, then I never got the contracts [2016-06-30 12:09:21] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: okay thanks mate [2016-06-30 12:11:52] rullwull : Mr Blue: if you bought them before 2pm than they age expired [2016-06-30 12:12:07] rullwull : are expired [2016-06-30 12:12:21] Mr Blue : rullwull: I never got them, yet box came up saying sold [2016-06-30 12:12:48] Mr Blue : Trading bots made a mistake, but if sold to me I should of got them [2016-06-30 12:12:52] rullwull : could hit your orders during settlement [2016-06-30 12:13:04] BitMEX_Wally : Mr Blue: Your order to sell was filled at 11:48:49 UTC and you were short 50 contracts. Then at 12:00:00 UTC the XBJ24H contract settled at 67315.30 [2016-06-30 12:13:26] BitMEX_Wally : Meaning all positions were closed at that price and the profit/loss paid into your wallet as a CashSettlement transaction [2016-06-30 12:14:15] BitMEX_Wally : You can see the Trade history including Settlement here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory [2016-06-30 12:15:05] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: bullshit mate, I had a buy in at 60000 for 5000 contacts because bots was low balling, I watched it get sold to, seen the pop-up then never got the contacts, and after 2 mins was refunded my btc [2016-06-30 12:15:06] BitMEX_Wally : NukeLaloosh: The maintenance margin varies for each contract, look at the contract specification. For XBTUSD it is 0.50% [2016-06-30 12:15:16] Mr Blue : This isn't fair market trading [2016-06-30 12:15:44] BitMEX_Wally : Mr Blue: I am not sure I understand what you mean. XBJ24H settles every day at 12:00 UTC. At settlement all open orders are canceled, and all positions are closed [2016-06-30 12:18:08] BitMEX_Wally : You had a buy order for 5000 contracts that was open from 11:57:23 UTC until 12:00:00 UTC exactly. It was never filled [2016-06-30 12:18:28] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: well I'll put a support email in, and head to the forums, but seen as all data was cleared I have no prove, but I'm not stupid I seen what I seen, what happened to my three orders above the bots, one a buy for 5000 at 60000 the orders was placed, filled then changed lol, if was a mistake fair enough, but seems dirty market manipulation, why sell to me lol [2016-06-30 12:18:51] BitMEX_Wally : No data has been cleared, the history is there [2016-06-30 12:19:52] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: never filled, so the pop-up was of it cosing? Sorry I only made the orders 10 mins ago... not seen this 24h close your orders thing happen before? [2016-06-30 12:20:03] BitMEX_Wally : Looking at the Recent Trades (XBJ24H) there were no trades between 11:48:49 and 12:00:00 [2016-06-30 12:20:07] Mr Blue : Closing [2016-06-30 12:20:21] BitMEX_Wally : You get a popup when orders are canceled [2016-06-30 12:20:47] hey : is there some popup history / notification history available? [2016-06-30 12:21:10] NukeLaloosh : thanks Wally. So when the liq order is put on the book, in the case of a liq'd long, the sell is at a lower price than the liq price. does that difference between liq price and the sell order represent 0.5% ? [2016-06-30 12:21:41] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: it's just my orders was the top three, seemed like I was sold to then never got the contacts, if true I'm really sorry for jumping the gun mate, but would of been nice profit so was mad lol [2016-06-30 12:24:00] BitMEX_Wally : Mr Blue: No problem, we run a fair market and do not let anyone front run orders [2016-06-30 12:24:01] hey : could it have been the cancellation popups that tripped you, Mr Blue? [2016-06-30 12:24:28] BitMEX_Wally : hey: There is not a history of notifications but there is a full history of all trades, orders, executions, etc available [2016-06-30 12:24:39] hey : k thx [2016-06-30 12:24:55] BitMEX_Wally : NukeLaloosh: Correct [2016-06-30 12:25:31] Mr Blue : hey: it could of been, yet at the same time 50 I was short disappeared, so clearly some of the three orders I placed low got sold to, I thought all but never got the contacts lol [2016-06-30 12:26:31] hey : sounds to me like to short pos going away while the orders get cancelled at the same time, all due to expiry but i haven't experienced one myself so cannot say for sure. [2016-06-30 12:26:59] rullwull : BitMEX_Wally: would be good to have notifications history as well [2016-06-30 12:27:06] hey : +1 [2016-06-30 12:27:27] Mr Blue : hey: I wasn't thinking about any 24h thing, I'll keep a close eye on that in the future lol [2016-06-30 12:27:47] hey : we're all learning [2016-06-30 12:28:17] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: okay thanks for the support [2016-06-30 12:28:41] Mr Blue : Sorry guys.... my bad lol [2016-06-30 12:49:27] rapidtrades : dam bitcoin [2016-06-30 12:49:51] rapidtrades : who knew it had it in him [2016-06-30 12:57:34] ayy_lmao : rip this dude walling [2016-06-30 12:57:36] ayy_lmao : get rekt [2016-06-30 13:02:06] ayy_lmao : this dude walling so ahrd [2016-06-30 13:02:35] macios15 : who? [2016-06-30 13:03:17] sq : stay long guys [2016-06-30 13:04:00] ayy_lmao : this guy on the sell side [2016-06-30 13:04:02] ayy_lmao : xbt [2016-06-30 13:13:07] RSFinance : Do you not have stop orders to open positions? [2016-06-30 13:13:44] RSFinance : It let me put in the order and then when it was triggered it was rejected. [2016-06-30 13:17:26] RSFinance : "Rejected: Order had execInst of Close and side of Sell but current position is -xxx" [2016-06-30 13:17:54] cekseh : Did you have the box ticked that says "close on trigger" [2016-06-30 13:17:58] cekseh : That would do it [2016-06-30 13:18:15] kogroken : It's one devious box that [2016-06-30 13:18:20] RSFinance : oh I do see that box [2016-06-30 13:18:36] cekseh : Read the balloon tip on that one [2016-06-30 13:18:40] cekseh : Kinda important [2016-06-30 13:19:09] kogroken : The balloon should spell out more clearly that it actually causes all other orders to be canceled. [2016-06-30 13:19:32] kogroken : It's certainly nothing one would expect to be on by default, yet it is ticked by default I believe. [2016-06-30 13:19:48] kogroken : At least it was when they added it [2016-06-30 13:20:22] cekseh : It does fairly plainly say that it cancels your other xbt orders [2016-06-30 13:21:20] cekseh : uhhg I need caffeine [2016-06-30 13:21:31] cekseh : zombie mode [2016-06-30 13:22:43] kogroken : It does. It's just counter intuitive, who uses a single stop loss order? [2016-06-30 13:22:59] kogroken : It will close your other stop loss orders as well, it seems. [2016-06-30 13:24:42] RSFinance : yeah it shouldn't be on by default [2016-06-30 13:32:12] kasman5 : i think more upside incoming [2016-06-30 13:37:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 5 @ 670.05 [2016-06-30 13:40:06] justinlooking : first rekt for 4 hours and it's a 5 lot [2016-06-30 13:42:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 400 @ 671.60 [2016-06-30 13:45:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 7 @ 673.23 [2016-06-30 13:45:59] macios15 : china gov to buy bitcoin! [2016-06-30 13:46:58] mbaril : go go go :) rekt more [2016-06-30 13:47:12] kasman5 : see if we break 4500 [2016-06-30 13:47:15] kasman5 : cny [2016-06-30 13:47:59] zanza : Corexit rally? [2016-06-30 13:51:08] mbaril : its over ? come on we can do more than that [2016-06-30 13:54:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 1 @ 68799.0 :punch: :whale: [2016-06-30 13:59:02] BitMEX_Greg : Seems like some consolidation here [2016-06-30 14:01:01] mbaril : BitMEX_Greg: hey hey Greg first time I see you :) [2016-06-30 14:05:58] BitMEX_Greg : mbaril: Heya, been a bit busy recently. Hows it going [2016-06-30 14:08:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCTXBT`: Sell 10 @ 0.002029 [2016-06-30 14:08:44] mbaril : BitMEX_Greg: Going well. Having fun here. Nice place to trade. You are doing a great job. [2016-06-30 14:11:49] BitMEX_Greg : Great to hear it, let me know if you have any questions [2016-06-30 14:12:24] subjective : Why is ETH mark price lower than Polo? [2016-06-30 14:13:32] d_ : Could be lag. Polo's site is lagging like crazy [2016-06-30 14:15:21] BitMEX_Wally : subjective: the mark price includes the funding rate which is currently negative for ETHXBT [2016-06-30 14:15:24] d_ : Actually, I take that back. On the ticker bar up top, it seems accurate. But mark price is much lower [2016-06-30 14:16:12] subjective : Well, this is 0.00008 power than spot price.. going to have a lot of unhappy souls tonight [2016-06-30 14:17:22] subjective : It means u get marked 5% lower than current spot.. [2016-06-30 14:17:47] BitMEX_Wally : 0.01849/ 0.01841 (Spot vs mark) [2016-06-30 14:18:15] BitMEX_Wally : less than 0.5% lower [2016-06-30 14:18:34] subjective : you are right, i missed a digit [2016-06-30 14:20:01] BitMEX_Wally : the mark price decays towards the spot price, so in 3 hours it will be 0.25% below, and in 6 hours 0% below [2016-06-30 14:20:56] d_ : BitMEX_Wally: Thanks for that clarification. Makes much more sense now than from when I read it in the docs. [2016-06-30 14:21:22] macios15 : dump time [2016-06-30 14:22:51] Tetsuo : pump failed [2016-06-30 14:28:02] BitMEX_Greg : subjective: You can see the funding rate under the contract details tab [2016-06-30 14:28:15] mbaril : that was a huge dump [2016-06-30 14:28:34] Tedy. : So randome [2016-06-30 14:28:44] Rune : did someone just dump to 650? [2016-06-30 14:28:50] Rune : wtf [2016-06-30 14:29:08] Rune : accident? [2016-06-30 14:29:34] macios15 : jep [2016-06-30 14:29:34] mbaril : yeah [2016-06-30 14:29:35] Hawtdawg : Pretty surprised it rebounded so fast [2016-06-30 14:29:38] macios15 : free money lol [2016-06-30 14:29:50] Tedy. : and my pos sucked -.- [2016-06-30 14:29:51] RoftheN : Lol wtf [2016-06-30 14:29:52] mbaril : Well it was a missclick for sure. Who will dump to 650 for no reason [2016-06-30 14:29:56] RoftheN : I wish I had some orders [2016-06-30 14:30:04] Rune : I seen a btc-e accident dump to 100 USD when the price was like 700 [2016-06-30 14:30:13] mbaril : loll OMG [2016-06-30 14:30:13] Rune : crazy [2016-06-30 14:30:22] Tedy. : stop loss maybe ? and went wrong [2016-06-30 14:30:23] Hawtdawg : @Rune I remember that [2016-06-30 14:30:26] XBTXBTXBT : I market closed a 200k usd long accidently ROFL [2016-06-30 14:30:33] XBTXBTXBT : lost like 3 btc [2016-06-30 14:30:44] Rune : wow [2016-06-30 14:30:57] macios15 : XBTXBTXBT: thx [2016-06-30 14:31:08] Tedy. : XBTXBTXBT: this dump ? [2016-06-30 14:31:14] XBTXBTXBT : yup [2016-06-30 14:31:20] Tedy. : I feel sad for you [2016-06-30 14:31:39] Tedy. : You were going to set price and clicked wrong i guess ? [2016-06-30 14:31:43] Rune : maybe he can afford it [2016-06-30 14:31:47] XBTXBTXBT : Yeah really not that big of a deal [2016-06-30 14:32:02] RoftheN : 200000 usd not big of a deal, you sound rich [2016-06-30 14:32:20] Rune : he only lost 3 bitcoins [2016-06-30 14:32:31] XBTXBTXBT : This is a leveraged based website 200k usd is 5k usd [2016-06-30 14:32:31] Tedy. : XBTXBTXBT: Haha maybe you just have a bigger stack then the rest of us xD [2016-06-30 14:32:33] Rune : 200000 contracts sold into market [2016-06-30 14:32:41] Tedy. : or maybe he is in good proffit and just wanted out [2016-06-30 14:32:59] mbaril : XBTXBTXBT: you can do that whenever you want :P [2016-06-30 14:33:08] XBTXBTXBT : I made a total of 15 btc dont feel bad fellas it was just 3 [2016-06-30 14:33:12] Rune : I wish I got some of that [2016-06-30 14:33:57] Tedy. : XBTXBTXBT: Haha cool, gz dude ^^ [2016-06-30 14:35:21] mbaril : XBTXBTXBT: you are buying back you 200k [2016-06-30 14:35:39] XBTXBTXBT : ofc not [2016-06-30 14:35:52] Tedy. : That would just be stupid [2016-06-30 14:36:01] Rune : lol [2016-06-30 14:36:04] mbaril : ok because there is soem buy :P [2016-06-30 14:36:07] Rune : sell low buy high [2016-06-30 14:36:09] XBTXBTXBT : i mean i was closing for a reason i just clicked market [2016-06-30 14:36:25] Tedy. : Are you on traidingview ? @XBTXBTXBT [2016-06-30 14:36:30] XBTXBTXBT : no [2016-06-30 14:37:06] huangyong : 。。 [2016-06-30 14:37:07] Tedy. : Would have been cool to see the grafs you were making tho [2016-06-30 14:39:44] Rune : it's pretty simple [2016-06-30 14:41:59] XBTXBTXBT : wonder if the markets gonna start getting irrational [2016-06-30 14:45:03] Rune : apparently china is gonna miners are gonna fork [2016-06-30 14:45:09] Rune : to 2mb limit [2016-06-30 14:45:23] Rune : price should dive [2016-06-30 14:45:34] cekseh : Are people actually taking that seriously? [2016-06-30 14:45:40] cekseh : Facinating [2016-06-30 14:46:18] mbaril : Im curious to see if all china miners go to 2mb what will happen [2016-06-30 14:47:18] Blargwaffle : Core dump, huh? Impressive. [2016-06-30 14:47:22] RoftheN : Why price d [2016-06-30 14:47:30] RoftheN : What's wrong with 2 MB? [2016-06-30 14:47:44] Rune : noting is wrong with it [2016-06-30 14:47:49] RoftheN : Then why is core so against it? [2016-06-30 14:47:57] Rune : but any time there is anything to do with a fork ppl sell [2016-06-30 14:49:12] mbaril : 2mb is wrong because it will be harder for everyone to operate a node [2016-06-30 14:49:35] cekseh : There's an entity called blockstream that has a bunch of devs in it's pocket, and it runs counter to their business model to increase [2016-06-30 14:50:12] mbaril : Just to be clear im not for or against the 2 mb just saying the fact [2016-06-30 14:50:20] cekseh : Making bitcoin more accessible fucks with their potential profits [2016-06-30 14:50:36] mbaril : cekseh: I do not agree with you [2016-06-30 14:50:48] Rune : mbaril: not really [2016-06-30 14:50:49] mbaril : Bitcoin is suppoce to be decentralised. We already have a mining that become centralised [2016-06-30 14:50:53] cekseh : mbaril is also sort of correct, but it isn't the insurmountable barrier he seems to think it is [2016-06-30 14:51:07] mbaril : now if the block are getting to big, no one will be able to have a nodes [2016-06-30 14:51:10] cekseh : Technically it will take more resources though [2016-06-30 14:51:12] mbaril : and so centralisation of the node [2016-06-30 14:51:20] Rune : not every 2mb block will be full right away [2016-06-30 14:51:25] mbaril : I agree [2016-06-30 14:51:29] mbaril : but it could be [2016-06-30 14:51:34] Rune : it wont be [2016-06-30 14:51:43] mbaril : like I said, im not for or against the 2mb im just saying some fact [2016-06-30 14:51:44] mbaril : ;) [2016-06-30 14:52:06] mbaril : There is also the problem of transmission [2016-06-30 14:52:10] Blargwaffle : I'm for lower fees and a smaller mempool. [2016-06-30 14:52:15] mbaril : we already have some problem of transmission with 1mb block [2016-06-30 14:52:16] Rune : harddrives are cheaper now [2016-06-30 14:52:39] mbaril : its not hte hardrive the problem but the bandwith [2016-06-30 14:52:57] Rune : dial up? [2016-06-30 14:53:35] mbaril : ?? [2016-06-30 14:53:39] mbaril : what do you mean [2016-06-30 14:53:55] mbaril : the problem is the speed of propagation of the block around the world [2016-06-30 14:54:19] mbaril : I was at scaling bitcoin and blue matt explained very well the problem of propagation [2016-06-30 14:55:01] d_ : also this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Internet_connection_speeds [2016-06-30 14:55:22] d_ : check out china at a whopping avg. 3.7 Mb/s [2016-06-30 14:57:56] RoftheN : Top 5, not bad [2016-06-30 14:58:06] mbaril : the problem is not internet speed guys [2016-06-30 14:58:15] mbaril : you need to understand how blockchain work [2016-06-30 14:58:43] mbaril : the propagation is important to eliminate orphan block. and to make sure we do not create bad branch [2016-06-30 14:59:59] mbaril : anyway 1mb or 2mb we need to get higher fee. because if not miners will stop secure the chain [2016-06-30 15:00:19] Rune : with 2mb we will have more transactions [2016-06-30 15:00:19] mbaril : fees is suppoce to replace block rewards [2016-06-30 15:00:23] d_ : But doesn't internet bandwidth play a role in block propagation? [2016-06-30 15:00:26] Rune : so there will be more fees paid [2016-06-30 15:00:29] mbaril : more transaction at less fee [2016-06-30 15:00:47] Rune : for a short time [2016-06-30 15:00:54] RoftheN : So how do we up the transaction fees? [2016-06-30 15:00:58] mbaril : d_: yes it play a role but so far internet speed is not the main problem in block propagation