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[2015-12-16 17:12:53] messiaen8844 : Fitsch downgraded Brazil again. BRL down, USD and BTC up. Yesterday in a newspaper here: BTC best 2015 investment in Brazil (second=dollar)
[2015-12-16 17:17:26] messiaen8844 : Premium in Brazil similar to China, no way you can get Finex price here
[2015-12-16 17:19:00] messiaen8844 : Volume increased 5x from Jan to Dec (daily). Still plenty of space to grow.
[2015-12-16 17:24:40] sleger : whats the exchange name?
[2015-12-16 17:30:03] messiaen8844 : main one FoxBit
[2015-12-16 17:30:14] messiaen8844 : also Mercado Bitcoin and BitcoinToYou
[2015-12-16 17:32:50] TschavaTschigger : sleger making his bots ready for south america
[2015-12-16 17:33:01] TschavaTschigger : gotta learn portuguese though dude
[2015-12-16 17:33:22] messiaen8844 : not a bad ideia if you look at the huge spread here
[2015-12-16 17:43:23] habibi : evening
[2015-12-16 17:43:24] habibi : guys
[2015-12-16 17:43:28] habibi : slept aditional 3 hours
[2015-12-16 17:43:32] habibi : great thing
[2015-12-16 17:43:45] wurstgelee : wb
[2015-12-16 17:48:40] wurstgelee : hardly any selling ffs
[2015-12-16 17:48:56] zanza : habibi: are you babysitting bitcoin ?
[2015-12-16 17:49:08] habibi : zanza: nah why
[2015-12-16 17:49:17] habibi : bitcoin is babysitting me
[2015-12-16 17:49:51] zanza : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P2FB9Mg_YI
[2015-12-16 17:50:29] habibi : ah yea :)
[2015-12-16 17:50:54] habibi : Fyrst and his videos/songs
[2015-12-16 17:51:28] wurstgelee : haha, i like those
[2015-12-16 17:55:08] TschavaTschigger : hardcore 1337 underground internet sheet
[2015-12-16 17:55:38] TschavaTschigger : volume totally dry atm though :(
[2015-12-16 17:56:06] wurstgelee : anticipation of fed decision
[2015-12-16 17:56:11] wurstgelee : nobody dares to move
[2015-12-16 18:01:03] TschavaTschigger : meh, doesn't have anything to do with fed decision imho
[2015-12-16 18:01:50] wurstgelee : hard to tell, we will see in an hour ;)
[2015-12-16 18:11:18] wurstgelee : connection quality between good and bad :|
[2015-12-16 18:11:33] wurstgelee : heavy server load i guess?
[2015-12-16 18:13:00] TschavaTschigger : wurstgelee: btw, http://www.bloomberg.com/live/europe good live stream
[2015-12-16 18:13:20] wurstgelee : cnbc europe is broadcasting it live
[2015-12-16 18:13:27] wurstgelee : didnt know i have that channel
[2015-12-16 18:13:29] wurstgelee : but i have it
[2015-12-16 18:13:30] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-16 18:32:12] justinlooking : hello peeps
[2015-12-16 18:32:17] TschavaTschigger : justinlooking: hey mate
[2015-12-16 18:32:30] TschavaTschigger : finished working?
[2015-12-16 18:34:14] justinlooking : yup, until tomorrow :-/
[2015-12-16 18:35:39] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 100 @ 455.70
[2015-12-16 18:35:55] justinlooking : eyeing the $8 spread between here and okc weekly oO
[2015-12-16 18:36:31] irbbqu : Dem indexes
[2015-12-16 18:38:21] TschavaTschigger : rofl: http://pricelessmisc.com/force-block
[2015-12-16 18:38:52] justinlooking : lol
[2015-12-16 18:40:26] justinlooking : how long until fomc?
[2015-12-16 18:40:48] wurstgelee : 20 mins
[2015-12-16 18:41:23] TschavaTschigger : going to supermarket for 15 minutes, either moon or goblin town until I come back I suppose... cya
[2015-12-16 18:41:42] wurstgelee : not if u only need 15 mins
[2015-12-16 18:41:42] wurstgelee : =)
[2015-12-16 18:42:45] justinlooking : lol c u in a bit
[2015-12-16 18:43:57] 24hourz : Market waiting for fed
[2015-12-16 18:44:06] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-12-16 18:45:05] j8 : justinlooking: the okc index is actually overvaluing the CNY exchanges by about 1% because of the exchange rate they use
[2015-12-16 18:46:48] 24hourz : looking ike it is setting up for major moves
[2015-12-16 18:47:11] justinlooking : j8 thanks - do you expect them to converge as settlement approaches? okc weekly and 7d here normally settle within a couple of bucks of each other i think
[2015-12-16 18:48:41] wurstgelee : i have my just-in-case long, let the fun begin ;)
[2015-12-16 18:49:44] j8 : using the current rate 6.47 they are still a little high, but not unusual. okc is using 6.4047, they adjust it after settlement.
[2015-12-16 18:50:15] j8 : so the biweekly / quarterly could drop half a percent after settlement, all else being equal
[2015-12-16 18:50:51] wurstgelee : china cant wait, trying a bit of a headstart
[2015-12-16 18:50:51] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-16 18:51:01] j8 : either way i'd wait to see if anything crazy happens after this meeting, i doubt it will but you never know
[2015-12-16 18:51:19] wurstgelee : yep. thats why i am u-never-know-long ;)
[2015-12-16 18:51:58] wurstgelee : cig, brb
[2015-12-16 18:51:59] justinlooking : j8: ok ty for the analysis, i doubt anything will happen either... even if they go unexpected unchanged, i think it'll be a damp squib
[2015-12-16 18:52:05] TschavaTschigger : re
[2015-12-16 18:52:42] 24hourz : how much longer ?
[2015-12-16 18:52:46] wurstgelee : lol okc futures. 2 early
[2015-12-16 18:52:47] wurstgelee : 8 mins
[2015-12-16 18:52:56] wurstgelee : ok, cig 4 real now, brb
[2015-12-16 18:53:01] 24hourz : the anticipation
[2015-12-16 18:53:51] TschavaTschigger : am I the only one in here that doesn't expect any effect on btc price?
[2015-12-16 18:55:52] j8 : i don't expect any effect, but the volatility has been high enough that it'll probably move anyway and people will try to say it had something to do with the fed
[2015-12-16 18:56:11] habibi : if it will affect offshore juan
[2015-12-16 18:56:12] habibi : we will move
[2015-12-16 18:56:19] 24hourz : Too big a moment to not kick start
[2015-12-16 18:56:38] habibi : just coz people thinks bitcoin is alternative for juan in china
[2015-12-16 18:56:38] TschavaTschigger : "and people will try to say it had something to do with the fed" this. like they do with every kind of news.
[2015-12-16 18:57:19] j8 : yup, just like capital controls, grexit...
[2015-12-16 18:57:26] habibi : +1
[2015-12-16 18:59:25] justinlooking : all the hype makes order books thinner, so good opportunity for whales to move us somewhere new
[2015-12-16 18:59:44] 24hourz : rate goes up. cny down. btc up
[2015-12-16 18:59:55] 24hourz : bets in getlemen
[2015-12-16 18:59:59] wurstgelee : thats what we all hope for ;)
[2015-12-16 19:00:04] TschavaTschigger : justinlooking: i'll see what I can do
[2015-12-16 19:00:16] wurstgelee : .25 up
[2015-12-16 19:00:17] wurstgelee : !
[2015-12-16 19:01:01] wurstgelee : % ofc
[2015-12-16 19:01:33] nickhnt : was expected
[2015-12-16 19:01:42] justinlooking : 15 tick range in spooz... how lame
[2015-12-16 19:01:51] 24hourz : market go bannanas !!
[2015-12-16 19:02:09] wurstgelee : nickhnt: yep
[2015-12-16 19:02:19] justinlooking : snore fest
[2015-12-16 19:02:26] nickhnt : wurstgelee: lets see if something happens in btc world :)
[2015-12-16 19:02:32] j8 : euro dump
[2015-12-16 19:02:35] wurstgelee : not much i think
[2015-12-16 19:02:43] wurstgelee : j8: already dumping?
[2015-12-16 19:03:10] j8 : yeah it's got a vicious 5 minute candle goin on
[2015-12-16 19:03:13] wurstgelee : haha
[2015-12-16 19:05:12] j8 : bitcoin is the most stable currency at this moment
[2015-12-16 19:05:25] wurstgelee : it seem to not fucking care
[2015-12-16 19:05:27] wurstgelee : *s
[2015-12-16 19:07:01] TschavaTschigger : why would it? serious question
[2015-12-16 19:07:20] TschavaTschigger : btc is not part of funds/hedging of serious investors
[2015-12-16 19:07:59] podizzler3k : nice dildo http://www.investing.com/quotes/us-dollar-index-streaming-chart
[2015-12-16 19:08:09] wurstgelee : podizzler3k: yep
[2015-12-16 19:08:12] wurstgelee : TschavaTschigger: thats y
[2015-12-16 19:08:13] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-16 19:08:25] wurstgelee : more cny devaluation
[2015-12-16 19:08:26] wurstgelee : btc up
[2015-12-16 19:08:44] wurstgelee : umpi tho
[2015-12-16 19:08:47] wurstgelee : dump
[2015-12-16 19:08:47] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-16 19:09:09] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 4052 @ 454.55
[2015-12-16 19:09:09] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 100 @ 455.37
[2015-12-16 19:09:17] thehawthorne : MEGADUMP.
[2015-12-16 19:09:23] thehawthorne : ..
[2015-12-16 19:09:26] thehawthorne : just normal
[2015-12-16 19:09:39] ethexio : RIP
[2015-12-16 19:09:53] macios15 : rekt incoming
[2015-12-16 19:09:53] wurstgelee : nice dump
[2015-12-16 19:10:01] ethexio : Thanks
[2015-12-16 19:10:19] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 1020 @ 453.71
[2015-12-16 19:10:57] wurstgelee : still going
[2015-12-16 19:10:59] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 35300 @ 449.22 <b>MEGA-REKT</b>
[2015-12-16 19:11:02] wurstgelee : ouch
[2015-12-16 19:11:11] Swedishnut : blood in the streets
[2015-12-16 19:11:21] macios15 : 35k nice
[2015-12-16 19:11:52] macios15 : more dump incoming
[2015-12-16 19:13:03] wurstgelee : maybe, maybe not
[2015-12-16 19:13:04] podizzler3k : fed rate hike dump is on!
[2015-12-16 19:13:09] podizzler3k : or over
[2015-12-16 19:13:09] thehawthorne : LOL
[2015-12-16 19:13:12] wurstgelee : or it is over :)
[2015-12-16 19:13:12] nickhnt : bear trap
[2015-12-16 19:13:14] wurstgelee : hahaha
[2015-12-16 19:13:15] justinlooking : haha
[2015-12-16 19:13:15] TschavaTschigger : god my bot is so fuking smart
[2015-12-16 19:13:24] wurstgelee : got a nice long ;)
[2015-12-16 19:13:27] wurstgelee : nice so far ofc...
[2015-12-16 19:13:29] podizzler3k : back down!
[2015-12-16 19:13:32] TschavaTschigger : closed that short with taker cause market was moving against him now
[2015-12-16 19:13:56] macios15 : 452 lol wtf
[2015-12-16 19:14:02] wurstgelee : hahaa
[2015-12-16 19:14:02] podizzler3k : hehe
[2015-12-16 19:14:05] wurstgelee : EXCELLENT :D
[2015-12-16 19:14:15] nickhnt : xD
[2015-12-16 19:14:19] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 2556 @ 452.82
[2015-12-16 19:14:19] wurstgelee : 448.29 longed ;)
[2015-12-16 19:14:21] TschavaTschigger : but for dpe, we need bigger drops :(
[2015-12-16 19:14:39] wurstgelee : lol, great trap if it is one
[2015-12-16 19:14:43] podizzler3k : XBT24H 5000 448.25 5000 448.25 22.4609 XBT Limit Filled 2015-12-16 14:11:08
[2015-12-16 19:14:47] podizzler3k : muahhaha
[2015-12-16 19:14:50] wurstgelee : hahahaa
[2015-12-16 19:15:09] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 150 @ 454.72
[2015-12-16 19:15:09] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 440 @ 454.11
[2015-12-16 19:15:09] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead
[2015-12-16 19:15:09] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 1 @ 454.26
[2015-12-16 19:15:21] podizzler3k : screw u rektbot
[2015-12-16 19:15:25] wurstgelee : lol wow
[2015-12-16 19:15:26] thehawthorne : Lol
[2015-12-16 19:15:32] podizzler3k : that was some bounce
[2015-12-16 19:15:33] thehawthorne : 3022 huobbobooui
[2015-12-16 19:15:38] wurstgelee : fucking awesome
[2015-12-16 19:15:42] justinlooking : muhahaha
[2015-12-16 19:15:49] nickhnt : lolll
[2015-12-16 19:15:53] nickhnt : mega bear trap
[2015-12-16 19:15:56] cekseh : money money
[2015-12-16 19:15:58] podizzler3k : people that panic sold jumping in a toaster bath
[2015-12-16 19:16:00] ethexio : dang
[2015-12-16 19:16:04] wurstgelee : lolololol
[2015-12-16 19:16:11] wurstgelee : just awesome
[2015-12-16 19:16:16] nickhnt : back to 3024, nothing going wrong here lolll
[2015-12-16 19:16:24] wurstgelee : BEAUTIFUL
[2015-12-16 19:16:29] podizzler3k : stop laughing have some respect for the ded
[2015-12-16 19:16:34] wurstgelee : i cant
[2015-12-16 19:16:45] nickhnt : i was -1 btc for a moment :)
[2015-12-16 19:16:51] nickhnt : now im +0.4
[2015-12-16 19:16:55] nickhnt : hehehe
[2015-12-16 19:16:56] wurstgelee : 254.45%
[2015-12-16 19:17:00] wurstgelee : :D :D :D
[2015-12-16 19:17:03] habibi : scalped short
[2015-12-16 19:17:07] habibi : now long since 456
[2015-12-16 19:17:12] habibi : + 1 btc since 20 minutes
[2015-12-16 19:17:17] ethexio : RIP
[2015-12-16 19:17:19] wurstgelee : 448.29 ;)
[2015-12-16 19:17:28] habibi : nice! :)
[2015-12-16 19:17:41] nickhnt : wurstgelee: nice one man
[2015-12-16 19:17:50] wurstgelee : pod has a better one
[2015-12-16 19:17:54] wurstgelee : 448.25
[2015-12-16 19:17:57] chromaticcr : dildos everywhere
[2015-12-16 19:17:57] wurstgelee : =)
[2015-12-16 19:18:46] wurstgelee : still going up ffs
[2015-12-16 19:19:39] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT7D: Buy 3250 @ 461.66
[2015-12-16 19:19:43] jesperf : next stop 500
[2015-12-16 19:20:00] podizzler3k : janet yellen announces bitcoin to replace dollar as world reserve
[2015-12-16 19:20:11] Swedishnut : :P
[2015-12-16 19:20:13] MrJ1m : lol
[2015-12-16 19:20:28] MrJ1m : wtf is happening
[2015-12-16 19:20:28] wurstgelee : k, closed
[2015-12-16 19:20:33] MrJ1m : btc looking like fx
[2015-12-16 19:20:36] wurstgelee : ~250% or something
[2015-12-16 19:21:04] TschavaTschigger : considering you are celebrating this 5k trade 10 minutes long, this was your best trade so far I suppose?
[2015-12-16 19:21:07] wurstgelee : mfw when the doorball rang @ 2 mins after announcement in the middle of the dump
[2015-12-16 19:21:18] wurstgelee : food i ordered
[2015-12-16 19:21:19] wurstgelee : =)
[2015-12-16 19:21:23] ethexio : http://www.ustream.tv/federalreserve
[2015-12-16 19:21:40] habibi : ethexio: who cares now :D
[2015-12-16 19:21:49] ethexio : lol
[2015-12-16 19:21:51] cataquil : so much for the fed
[2015-12-16 19:21:59] 24hourz : Got rekt
[2015-12-16 19:21:59] ethexio : Interest rates raised, btw
[2015-12-16 19:22:23] MrJ1m : nothin new untill 1% imo
[2015-12-16 19:22:33] MrJ1m : she can still announce the opposite next meeting
[2015-12-16 19:22:37] 24hourz : Over leveraged and I knew it oh well
[2015-12-16 19:23:07] jesperf : don't go all in, you nutcase. you need some wiggle room
[2015-12-16 19:23:17] wurstgelee : 24hourz: u had a long @ announcement?
[2015-12-16 19:23:17] cataquil : why you hold high leverage into the fed
[2015-12-16 19:23:46] cataquil : if any market news can shake btcusd its the fed doing rates
[2015-12-16 19:23:56] cataquil : making usd more valuable
[2015-12-16 19:24:06] cataquil : so they can print more ;0
[2015-12-16 19:24:08] TschavaTschigger : still, price is exactly like before the announcement.. duh
[2015-12-16 19:24:13] nickhnt : usd more valuable cny less valuable
[2015-12-16 19:24:52] jesperf : it's only been 25 minutes since the announcement.. and most of china is sleeping
[2015-12-16 19:25:29] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 7342 @ 458.17
[2015-12-16 19:25:31] TschavaTschigger : jesperf: sure dude. because the wahletraders with money sleep during fed announcement. so they can wake up 4 hours late and start trading
[2015-12-16 19:25:57] jesperf : I don't think the chinese whales are chinese...
[2015-12-16 19:26:02] wurstgelee : time to eat that crispy duck with interfered with the dumping
[2015-12-16 19:26:05] wurstgelee : bbl ;)
[2015-12-16 19:26:10] wurstgelee : *which
[2015-12-16 19:26:12] cataquil : nickhnt: chinese will probably buy tonight
[2015-12-16 19:26:40] TschavaTschigger : price flashcrashes 50 bucks last night, everybody "ok"... price moves 0.1% after fed announcement --> huuuge impact
[2015-12-16 19:26:48] cataquil : those escaping capital controls
[2015-12-16 19:27:09] wurstgelee : TschavaTschigger: it was a bit more
[2015-12-16 19:27:13] cataquil : TschavaTschigger: yeah I think the feds move was priced in
[2015-12-16 19:27:20] TschavaTschigger : cataquil: of course it was
[2015-12-16 19:27:27] TschavaTschigger : .25% was basically known
[2015-12-16 19:27:38] cataquil : not been watching btc long enough to know how it moves during economic news like fx pairs
[2015-12-16 19:28:04] sleger : it doesnt
[2015-12-16 19:28:08] TschavaTschigger : cataquil: almost no effect
[2015-12-16 19:28:23] TschavaTschigger : people claim some effect in hindsight, but it virtually has none
[2015-12-16 19:29:00] MrJ1m : fat finger maybe lol
[2015-12-16 19:31:59] j8 : looks like it was used as an excuse for a quick stop run
[2015-12-16 19:37:39] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 4010 @ 456.46
[2015-12-16 19:40:15] irbbqu : China liquidity ftw
[2015-12-16 19:40:20] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 50 @ 454.87
[2015-12-16 19:41:06] j8 : chop chop chop
[2015-12-16 19:42:17] irbbqu : and now sideways lol
[2015-12-16 19:42:19] irbbqu : fed gaims
[2015-12-16 19:44:11] 24hourz : Long term this is good for btc
[2015-12-16 19:44:51] TschavaTschigger : not so sure about that
[2015-12-16 19:45:34] 24hourz : USD is going to get stronger and other fiat will get rekt so bad
[2015-12-16 19:45:51] 24hourz : Ppl need to be able to have their wealth escape capital controls
[2015-12-16 19:46:00] 24hourz : Then bam! Hello Bitcoin
[2015-12-16 19:46:09] cataquil : maintaining their large holdings of maturing treasuries
[2015-12-16 19:46:47] cataquil : they raised repo rate
[2015-12-16 19:48:30] cataquil : i doubt any libertarians are allowed to ask questions
[2015-12-16 19:51:48] ethexio : more banga
[2015-12-16 19:53:35] cataquil : erode thosemargins of slack
[2015-12-16 19:53:46] cataquil : greater tightness
[2015-12-16 19:54:03] justinlooking : TschavaTschigger: got a sec ;)
[2015-12-16 19:54:07] justinlooking : *?
[2015-12-16 19:54:13] TschavaTschigger : justinlooking: sure. irc?
[2015-12-16 19:54:26] justinlooking : cool
[2015-12-16 19:58:46] cataquil : stocks rally
[2015-12-16 19:59:39] cataquil : past 2 weeks sucker selloff
[2015-12-16 20:02:05] podizzler3k : yeah if you looked at the last 4 rate hikes they rally after each one and then slow downturn
[2015-12-16 20:02:13] podizzler3k : same with the euro last month
[2015-12-16 20:02:26] podizzler3k : everyone short only one way to go
[2015-12-16 20:08:53] AudibleScience : long?
[2015-12-16 20:09:08] AudibleScience : podizzler3k: do you mean on okcoin
[2015-12-16 20:09:15] AudibleScience : lol
[2015-12-16 20:22:14] podizzler3k : no i was talking about the stock market
[2015-12-16 20:22:16] podizzler3k : not bitcoin
[2015-12-16 20:23:59] wurstgelee : ok, who owns that 1.6k bot?
[2015-12-16 20:24:31] TschavaTschigger : it's definitely not rapid, would be 16-bot then
[2015-12-16 20:24:39] wurstgelee : or 1.6 bot ;)
[2015-12-16 20:25:01] TschavaTschigger : what's wrong with 1.6k bot?
[2015-12-16 20:25:08] wurstgelee : it annoys me ;)
[2015-12-16 20:26:03] wurstgelee : ok, found a way to piss it off :p
[2015-12-16 20:26:16] TschavaTschigger : make spread smaller?
[2015-12-16 20:26:28] wurstgelee : repeatedly
[2015-12-16 20:26:37] wurstgelee : then seems to pull orders
[2015-12-16 20:27:51] wurstgelee : yep, works
[2015-12-16 20:27:53] wurstgelee : :D
[2015-12-16 20:29:41] TschavaTschigger : whats ur bot? or you manually?
[2015-12-16 20:31:03] habibi : 2k bot
[2015-12-16 20:31:06] habibi : 1.6k bot
[2015-12-16 20:31:16] habibi : yea both can be do close position on them
[2015-12-16 20:31:19] habibi : if u have large
[2015-12-16 20:31:24] habibi : and feels bad
[2015-12-16 20:39:32] rapidtrades : wait a sec...is contract size several times larger on the XBU?
[2015-12-16 20:40:13] rapidtrades : any support here/ I'm getting 6 XBT when I input 30 contracts
[2015-12-16 20:41:46] TschavaTschigger : just read the contract details ffs... there is all information you need
[2015-12-16 20:41:49] BitMEX_Wally : `XBUZ15 is a XBT/USD futures contract settling on the .XBT2H Index. Each contract is worth $100 of Bitcoin.`
[2015-12-16 20:42:07] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/XBU
[2015-12-16 20:42:10] rapidtrades : ah so same as okc,,,
[2015-12-16 20:42:38] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2015-12-16 20:43:10] rapidtrades : and there is no clawback on this contract?
[2015-12-16 20:43:42] glassbunker : What did i hear about 100x maybe being lowered
[2015-12-16 20:44:31] BitMEX_Wally : glassbunker: BitMEX has not said anything
[2015-12-16 20:44:41] glassbunker : Okay, cool. :)
[2015-12-16 20:45:29] habibi : glassbunker: if we jump above 1000$ bitmex will increase to 1000x :p
[2015-12-16 20:45:37] glassbunker : Cool
[2015-12-16 20:45:41] glassbunker : I like 1000x.
[2015-12-16 20:46:01] habibi : yea, and isolated margins will be liquidated even before contract opened
[2015-12-16 20:46:09] glassbunker : coo
[2015-12-16 20:46:11] habibi : so u just pay liquidation fee :)
[2015-12-16 20:46:17] glassbunker : :D perf
[2015-12-16 20:46:47] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: is this the clawback-free contract?
[2015-12-16 20:50:24] sleger : for people who just discover bitmex, XBU is the clawback free contract and XBT has DPE
[2015-12-16 20:52:46] TschavaTschigger : we need volume :(
[2015-12-16 20:53:18] rapidtrades : there less that 100k since dec1, 60k last two days
[2015-12-16 20:53:37] rapidtrades : coinciding with clawback...
[2015-12-16 20:54:00] jesperf : don't be cry babies about DPE
[2015-12-16 20:54:07] jesperf : it's a small price to pay for 100x possibilites
[2015-12-16 20:54:23] rapidtrades : lool..only newbs use 100/1
[2015-12-16 20:54:43] jesperf : and the sith
[2015-12-16 20:54:52] habibi : only nebws short all way long again and again at uptrend
[2015-12-16 20:57:09] jesperf : better than satoshidice
[2015-12-16 20:57:21] thehawthorne : enter google: a long time ago in a galaxy far far away
[2015-12-16 21:00:15] TschavaTschigger : 127k open interest.. snorefest
[2015-12-16 21:00:49] TschavaTschigger : 90k out of these 127k is probably sledger
[2015-12-16 21:01:38] rapidtrades : u can't really blame ppl after two massive clawbacks in five days
[2015-12-16 21:02:00] rapidtrades : current premium doesn't reflect the risk imo
[2015-12-16 21:04:46] sleger : Nobody decides the premium, it is adjusted by the market participants for what they are willing to pay or not as premium, and by the sellers the same way.
[2015-12-16 21:08:16] rapidtrades : no shit capt Obvious
[2015-12-16 21:10:40] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: if it doesnt reflect the risk in your opinion, you should short
[2015-12-16 21:10:55] wurstgelee : because that risk/reward should be ok then
[2015-12-16 21:33:32] railslave : selling Elite dangerous resources for btc , anyone play ?
[2015-12-16 21:38:40] wurstgelee : no
[2015-12-16 21:38:54] wurstgelee : also some action
[2015-12-16 21:38:56] wurstgelee : UP!
[2015-12-16 21:39:01] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 1000 @ 458.74
[2015-12-16 21:39:15] wurstgelee : thanks for verifying ;)
[2015-12-16 21:41:01] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 1500 @ 459.97
[2015-12-16 21:41:31] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 180 @ 461.10
[2015-12-16 21:53:46] BitMEX_Sam : FYI, some of you may have been seeing a performance issue in the site over time - I've traced it back to an issue with the chart and patched it. If you are having performance issues, please refresh the page.
[2015-12-16 21:54:38] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: not performance issues, connecgtion quality still keeps getting "bad" from time to time
[2015-12-16 21:54:48] wurstgelee : currently its ok though
[2015-12-16 21:54:53] habibi : yep, now its only ok
[2015-12-16 21:54:54] wurstgelee : or "good"
[2015-12-16 21:55:01] wurstgelee : i have good
[2015-12-16 21:55:03] habibi : and sometimes green is acting worse than red
[2015-12-16 21:55:05] wurstgelee : is alternating tho
[2015-12-16 21:55:09] BitMEX_Sam : Okay - I'll keep an eye on it. It sometimes is misleading
[2015-12-16 21:55:25] wurstgelee : chat is lagging hard from time to time so its really bad
[2015-12-16 21:55:30] BitMEX_Sam : It's based on the keep-alive heartbeating we do on the websocket, which is only sent once every ~30s
[2015-12-16 21:55:46] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: Where are you located and what's your ping to bitmex.com?
[2015-12-16 21:56:12] TschavaTschigger : he is in germany, so his ping should be ~30ms
[2015-12-16 21:56:52] TschavaTschigger : I have 25ms and still yellow/red from time to time btw
[2015-12-16 21:57:11] BitMEX_Sam : Okay. Then it appears that the indicator is being misleading
[2015-12-16 21:57:35] wurstgelee : germany and 45-50 ms
[2015-12-16 21:58:17] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: think so too, because it feels smooth/live
[2015-12-16 21:59:06] wurstgelee : also it sometimes feels laggy as hell when connection icon is green
[2015-12-16 21:59:10] wurstgelee : also vice versa ofc
[2015-12-16 21:59:20] wurstgelee : so basically the icon doesnt tell me much :)
[2015-12-16 21:59:40] BitMEX_Sam : :) We don't send timestamps with most messages to save space, so we have to base it off a special heartbeating message that is not sent very often
[2015-12-16 21:59:50] BitMEX_Sam : I'll see if I can find a better way to do this indication that's more accurate.
[2015-12-16 22:00:39] TschavaTschigger : was this feature requested by the user? if it's about ping, you could make hover-over that checks latency (or a click)
[2015-12-16 22:00:54] wurstgelee : TschavaTschigger: on hover would be nice
[2015-12-16 22:01:02] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, the ping readout I agree would be nice.
[2015-12-16 22:01:17] BitMEX_Sam : We should be able to get measurements from some of the orderbook/instrument updates as well, which should be more accurate
[2015-12-16 22:01:30] BitMEX_Sam : And measures directly the latency between you and the trading engine, which is more important than the latency to the API
[2015-12-16 22:01:32] wurstgelee : so no extra load and bandwidth is used and you can do more extensive connection checking per user on request (hover)
[2015-12-16 22:04:21] TschavaTschigger : market starts wiggeling, I like
[2015-12-16 22:07:48] wurstgelee : =)
[2015-12-16 22:08:01] macios15 : still premium
[2015-12-16 22:08:15] macios15 : why its always premium not negativ
[2015-12-16 22:08:18] wurstgelee : yes, still bull market
[2015-12-16 22:08:24] BitMEX_Sam : It goes negative sometimes.
[2015-12-16 22:08:25] wurstgelee : thats y
[2015-12-16 22:08:42] TschavaTschigger : because bitcoin traders are optimistic
[2015-12-16 22:08:42] wurstgelee : only goes negative when dumping and for other retarded reasons i sometimes dont understand
[2015-12-16 22:10:08] habibi : macios15: we are in uptrend
[2015-12-16 22:10:26] TschavaTschigger : famous last words before dump-liquidation
[2015-12-16 22:12:47] wurstgelee : i hope so, need to reload again
[2015-12-16 22:12:50] wurstgelee : =)
[2015-12-16 22:13:42] wurstgelee : lots of spare time if u only trade pong to ping and not ping to pong
[2015-12-16 22:27:13] TschavaTschigger : hopefully there is some nice movement tonight
[2015-12-16 22:30:04] TschavaTschigger : https://twitter.com/goldmansachs/status/677241814924075008
[2015-12-16 22:30:32] TschavaTschigger : :-)
[2015-12-16 22:31:28] wurstgelee : yep ;)
[2015-12-16 22:33:09] wurstgelee : dip incoming
[2015-12-16 22:34:29] jesperf : bounce incoming
[2015-12-16 22:35:43] wurstgelee : or not
[2015-12-16 22:43:32] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 359 @ 456.03
[2015-12-16 22:44:58] hellyeahent : come to papy
[2015-12-16 22:45:13] wurstgelee : NOW it might bounce ;)
[2015-12-16 22:45:26] TschavaTschigger : papy is upwards baby
[2015-12-16 22:45:28] macios15 : it wont
[2015-12-16 22:45:54] macios15 : bitcoin likes triangles very mutch lol
[2015-12-16 22:45:59] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-16 22:46:24] wurstgelee : macios15: it does so far
[2015-12-16 22:46:46] macios15 : 3025 is bounce
[2015-12-16 22:47:22] jesperf : what do you mean by triangles?
[2015-12-16 22:47:43] jesperf : TA based on geometry is as good as throwing frog bones
[2015-12-16 22:47:48] macios15 : http://scr.hu/3e9p/slx88
[2015-12-16 22:48:07] macios15 : triagnles in bitcoin never be worng
[2015-12-16 22:48:25] wurstgelee : im ok with a quick $1.5 scalp
[2015-12-16 22:48:26] irbbqu : China triengle nevva wong
[2015-12-16 22:48:31] wurstgelee : not much but better than nothing ;)
[2015-12-16 22:48:34] jesperf : you could have drawn that triangle anyway you wanted ;)
[2015-12-16 22:49:16] wurstgelee : bitcoin loves rektangles more
[2015-12-16 22:49:21] jesperf : lol
[2015-12-16 22:49:26] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-16 22:49:48] TschavaTschigger : i use circles
[2015-12-16 22:50:17] wurstgelee : TschavaTschigger: no. REKTangles
[2015-12-16 22:50:21] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-16 22:50:28] TschavaTschigger : oh... fail
[2015-12-16 22:50:43] wurstgelee : no typo :p
[2015-12-16 22:51:18] TschavaTschigger : i'm just not used to getting rekt... last time I made neg. pnl was like 2 weeks ago
[2015-12-16 22:51:45] wurstgelee : been a while. last time i chopped myself to death
[2015-12-16 22:51:58] wurstgelee : one of those days where the market just hates you
[2015-12-16 22:52:40] wurstgelee : own fault tho. if u engage in chop chop, u deserve to get chopped
[2015-12-16 22:53:22] jesperf : i did that in the big first DPU dive
[2015-12-16 22:53:33] jesperf : had a nice 5 BTC profit and got greedy
[2015-12-16 22:54:40] jesperf : placed my bets in the wrong direction and learned my lesson after 5 minutes :D
[2015-12-16 22:54:50] wurstgelee : hehe =)
[2015-12-16 22:55:05] jesperf : got a nice MEGA-REKT to show for it too
[2015-12-16 22:55:06] wurstgelee : u only learn when it hurts
[2015-12-16 22:55:34] TschavaTschigger : first time i fukked up was market close order after settlemen... like 1000 contracts.. cost me like 0.8 btc in 0.0001 seconds
[2015-12-16 22:55:36] TschavaTschigger : lol
[2015-12-16 22:55:48] wurstgelee : haha, nice
[2015-12-16 22:55:55] wurstgelee : i guess everyone has done dumb things here
[2015-12-16 22:55:56] habibi : TschavaTschigger: u bought at 350 if i am right? ;p
[2015-12-16 22:57:07] TschavaTschigger : habibi: that was some weeks ago, was a long order
[2015-12-16 22:58:03] hellyeahent : if I buy 10000 contracts at 400 and add 8 btc margin how low will I get liquidated ?
[2015-12-16 22:58:30] TschavaTschigger : hellyeahent: just try it out - learning by doing
[2015-12-16 23:05:17] wurstgelee : really low, u should be able to handle a 15% drop or something
[2015-12-16 23:05:42] wurstgelee : no more probably
[2015-12-16 23:05:47] wurstgelee : no, more
[2015-12-16 23:05:52] wurstgelee : not "no more"
[2015-12-16 23:05:54] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-16 23:06:13] habibi : 10k is 0.4 btc, u get liquidated at 0.5% so
[2015-12-16 23:06:34] TschavaTschigger : hellyeahent: ~18-19%
[2015-12-16 23:06:43] wurstgelee : TschavaTschigger: sounds about right
[2015-12-16 23:06:56] wurstgelee : i wouldnt do that though, if it drops that much, the rally is over
[2015-12-16 23:09:01] TschavaTschigger : hellyeahent: if you just started trading here, keep isolated enabled and play with small orders
[2015-12-16 23:09:42] rapidtrades : TschavaTschigger: tnx for telling the newbs to use isolated...
[2015-12-16 23:09:59] rapidtrades : so we can get buttfucked with clawback tomorrow
[2015-12-16 23:10:18] TschavaTschigger : "we"?
[2015-12-16 23:10:37] TschavaTschigger : dpe only applies to profitable traders dude, so you won't be bothered
[2015-12-16 23:11:07] hellyeahent : ouch ! :D
[2015-12-16 23:17:43] sleger : lol
[2015-12-16 23:20:42] wurstgelee : haha
[2015-12-16 23:21:19] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: you know that u can manually add margin to isolated, right?
[2015-12-16 23:21:50] wurstgelee : hellyagent does btw bc his question was exactly about that
[2015-12-16 23:22:35] billyboy402 : never let the system close you out the spread will be worst then you adding a limit order
[2015-12-16 23:22:53] billyboy402 : there will be soo much slippage
[2015-12-16 23:34:59] wurstgelee : ok china, i know youre awake
[2015-12-16 23:35:01] wurstgelee : do something
[2015-12-16 23:36:39] jesperf : do you not care for your REKT-um?
[2015-12-16 23:36:55] jesperf : tease the chinese and you will get what you want :D
[2015-12-16 23:37:40] wurstgelee : no position
[2015-12-16 23:37:43] wurstgelee : watching
[2015-12-16 23:39:22] jesperf : it's horizontal.. a bit too horizontal
[2015-12-16 23:39:41] habibi : probally no bigger moves till settlement
[2015-12-16 23:39:45] habibi : okc one
[2015-12-16 23:41:28] wurstgelee : mhmhmhh
[2015-12-16 23:41:31] wurstgelee : too quiet
[2015-12-16 23:41:45] jesperf : everyone is prboably watching star wars
[2015-12-16 23:41:54] wurstgelee : lol ;)
[2015-12-16 23:42:09] wurstgelee : my gutt says up tho
[2015-12-16 23:42:28] wurstgelee : nothing to rely on ofc
[2015-12-16 23:43:01] wurstgelee : could also be food poisoning
[2015-12-16 23:43:42] justinlooking : think we had bvol24h = 24 around peak of last $500 rally. currently 4.5
[2015-12-16 23:44:34] wurstgelee : yep, even higher iirc
[2015-12-16 23:44:44] wurstgelee : 27? that number somehow rings a bell
[2015-12-16 23:45:37] justinlooking : maybe it was calculated differently 6 weeks ago
[2015-12-16 23:46:40] wurstgelee : mh, i doubt that. 24 was probably right then
[2015-12-16 23:49:17] wurstgelee : mh...no daily candle closing shenenigans?
[2015-12-16 23:50:09] TschavaTschigger : going to bed.. enjoy goblinmoon™
[2015-12-16 23:50:47] justinlooking : nn
[2015-12-16 23:52:31] habibi : TschavaTschigger: just dont stay with position :)
[2015-12-16 23:53:18] wurstgelee : haha
[2015-12-16 23:53:25] wurstgelee : there we go, some action
[2015-12-16 23:53:27] wurstgelee : just in time
[2015-12-16 23:55:33] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 100 @ 458.27
[2015-12-16 23:57:42] wurstgelee : weak :|
[2015-12-17 00:23:44] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 15839 @ 455.33 <b>MEGA-REKT</b>
[2015-12-17 00:24:04] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 300 @ 454.87
[2015-12-17 01:08:36] gorygreg : hey, where's the withdrawl button?
[2015-12-17 01:09:17] gorygreg : weird, it just appeared :P
[2015-12-17 01:11:54] GAmma : Arthur Hayes - you are a rock star! nuff said
[2015-12-17 01:12:53] GAmma : I'm gathering my btc and coming back.... most are tied up in Augur ... but your ETH contract steered me to that
[2015-12-17 01:13:11] GAmma : props
[2015-12-17 01:23:05] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 25847 @ 455.37 <b>MEGA-REKT</b>
[2015-12-17 01:23:55] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 250 @ 453.34
[2015-12-17 01:24:15] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 8600 @ 452.28
[2015-12-17 01:24:25] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 8500 @ 453.31
[2015-12-17 01:56:59] kingscrown : anybody tradex x500 on http://fuk.io/simplefx ? meta trader needed tho. bitmex is easier ;)
[2015-12-17 02:20:35] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 5 @ 452.47
[2015-12-17 02:22:14] zanza : kingscrown: which contacts have 500x?
[2015-12-17 02:25:19] habibi : hey zanza
[2015-12-17 02:25:25] habibi : thought i am alone here with this spammer
[2015-12-17 02:28:30] zanza : so did fed raise rates? i just woke up
[2015-12-17 02:28:35] zanza : and can't find anything
[2015-12-17 02:28:40] HotDogs : Yes
[2015-12-17 02:28:52] HotDogs : 0.25%
[2015-12-17 02:33:02] zanza : I should short the SnP