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[2015-12-02 14:54:13] j8 : jung1: http://pastebin.com/Wj1HxfAw
[2015-12-02 14:54:38] j8 : is an html file for 2x2 cryptowatch charts you can run locally
[2015-12-02 14:54:50] j8 : may want to edit the markets at the top
[2015-12-02 14:57:10] jung1 : awesome
[2015-12-02 14:57:45] j8 : been meaning to clean it up a bit but it works
[2015-12-02 15:00:22] brucegoose : anyone know how long "withheld profit" takes to post? is it the last day of the contract or something?
[2015-12-02 15:00:57] zanza : brucegoose: Arthur logs on a few times a month an settles it
[2015-12-02 15:01:06] zanza : depending on who his friends are
[2015-12-02 15:01:15] messiaen8844 : it's based on moon cycles
[2015-12-02 15:01:19] zanza : how well you know him, did you send him gifts, etc
[2015-12-02 15:01:23] zanza : and moon, yes @messiaen8844
[2015-12-02 15:01:35] brucegoose : interesting. thanks for the comments
[2015-12-02 15:01:40] messiaen8844 : but seriously, settlements and readjusts, look at the reference
[2015-12-02 15:01:56] messiaen8844 : and remember you can't used withhold profit for margin
[2015-12-02 15:06:30] jung1 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1272304.0 monero scam
[2015-12-02 15:07:46] podizzler3k_ : brucegoose when it settles you get it all. i think they were mentioning about freeing up withheld profit on the longer term contracts before they settle
[2015-12-02 15:07:50] podizzler3k_ : a portion at least
[2015-12-02 15:09:43] jung1 : meh someone dont want to bitcoin rise
[2015-12-02 15:10:37] rapidtrades : someone=almost everyone
[2015-12-02 15:10:44] justinlooking : wtf going on with volume on okcoin spot?
[2015-12-02 15:10:49] justinlooking : https://cryptowat.ch/okcoin/btccny/1min
[2015-12-02 15:12:09] rapidtrades : you could say their volume is....
[2015-12-02 15:12:11] rapidtrades : .....
[2015-12-02 15:12:15] rapidtrades : ...........
[2015-12-02 15:12:19] rapidtrades : .............spotty
[2015-12-02 15:14:02] justinlooking : looks like @ 13:06 the main chipping machine disappeared
[2015-12-02 15:25:20] rapidtrades : the BRICS are shitting the bed
[2015-12-02 15:28:12] singularity321 : why?
[2015-12-02 15:28:51] messiaen8844 : BRICS shitting? that is a indicator I need to invest in then in 2016
[2015-12-02 15:38:23] singularity321 : exactly why are brics shitting it?
[2015-12-02 15:38:52] justinlooking : singularity321: worth a read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man
[2015-12-02 15:39:20] singularity321 : cheers
[2015-12-02 15:44:19] messiaen8844 : china vs 2330, round 15
[2015-12-02 15:44:23] messiaen8844 : deja vu
[2015-12-02 15:46:48] singularity321 : lol
[2015-12-02 15:48:07] jung1 : green dildo is comming
[2015-12-02 15:48:28] podizzle3k : cumming*
[2015-12-02 15:48:41] jung1 : oh you!
[2015-12-02 15:48:48] justinlooking : lol
[2015-12-02 15:49:36] jung1 : https://forum.bitcoin.com/post10195.html#p10195 bitstamp is switching to bib101
[2015-12-02 15:49:55] jung1 : *bip
[2015-12-02 15:50:02] habibi : jung1: what are they switching to bip101
[2015-12-02 15:50:05] habibi : please tell me
[2015-12-02 15:51:23] jung1 : https://bitcoinxt.software/onboard.html
[2015-12-02 15:51:40] jung1 : bitcoin blocks size
[2015-12-02 15:51:42] habibi : so they supporting it right ;p? itss miners choose
[2015-12-02 15:52:05] jung1 : not only
[2015-12-02 15:52:27] jung1 : they will support it on users wallets on exchange
[2015-12-02 15:53:59] podizzler3k_ : bip101 is gavin anderson i would never trust that guy hes a cia informant
[2015-12-02 15:54:06] podizzler3k_ : probably has some backdoor shit in it
[2015-12-02 15:54:27] habibi : so why u trust bitcoin ;p?
[2015-12-02 15:56:17] podizzler3k_ : satoshi
[2015-12-02 15:56:41] podizzler3k_ : gavin hasnt made any fundamental changes to satoshi's vision until this proposal
[2015-12-02 15:57:15] habibi : satoshi said that low block limits are just temporaly
[2015-12-02 15:57:48] laisee : support BIP101 ...
[2015-12-02 15:57:50] habibi : and sha256 like every sha is NSA creation
[2015-12-02 15:58:42] habibi : so if u aware of cia and some backdoors inside, u should be aware that sha2 has some backdoors/exploits like sha1 had
[2015-12-02 15:58:59] laisee : security lib is being updated now/soon, right?
[2015-12-02 16:00:38] podizzler3k_ : whats wrong with bip100
[2015-12-02 16:00:44] podizzler3k_ : all the china exchanges are switching to that
[2015-12-02 16:01:14] laisee : BIP00 has not been written, run or tested yet ... hard to say if support is real.
[2015-12-02 16:03:09] jung1 : I think to short it
[2015-12-02 16:03:45] laisee : jung1> which coin will you short?
[2015-12-02 16:05:29] jung1 : magic internet money
[2015-12-02 16:05:51] laisee : sounds cool, where to buy?
[2015-12-02 16:06:15] jung1 : https://www.bitmex.com/register/CunK1W here
[2015-12-02 16:07:12] laisee : hah. I already bought at the office today. ;-)
[2015-12-02 16:07:17] podizzle3k : i had a shitcoin called magic internet money
[2015-12-02 16:07:37] podizzle3k : it went to magic internet money heaven
[2015-12-02 16:09:34] jung1 : I have whole folder of shircoins paperwallets
[2015-12-02 16:10:01] jung1 : maybe will be worth something in couple of years
[2015-12-02 16:11:22] laisee : yeah, who knows ... Bitcoin may die a horrible death if dev's don't stop fighting.
[2015-12-02 16:12:25] jung1 : I have in my portfolio btc, ltc, xrp, bitshares and eth
[2015-12-02 16:12:40] jung1 : and collect them still
[2015-12-02 16:14:18] laisee : dash, monero, ducknotes, qiwicoin(don't ask), doge, clams, bytecoin ...
[2015-12-02 16:16:06] habibi : fckbankcoin! have 100's milions of it
[2015-12-02 16:16:56] laisee : habibi> trade for 1 ducknote?
[2015-12-02 16:17:12] habibi : duck duck no, too precious
[2015-12-02 16:59:26] SnackyCoins : nom
[2015-12-02 16:59:27] SnackyCoins : nom
[2015-12-02 16:59:41] SnackyCoins : and the rest of it was pulled
[2015-12-02 16:59:42] SnackyCoins : lol
[2015-12-02 16:59:48] SnackyCoins : oh no it wasn't
[2015-12-02 16:59:52] SnackyCoins : rip
[2015-12-02 17:00:30] habibi : quaterlies pumping
[2015-12-02 17:00:33] habibi : a bit
[2015-12-02 17:11:17] SnackyCoins : nom nom nom
[2015-12-02 17:11:23] floopfloop : SnackyCoins: where?
[2015-12-02 17:11:30] SnackyCoins : 24h
[2015-12-02 17:11:52] SnackyCoins : uhoh finex
[2015-12-02 17:12:13] habibi : yep
[2015-12-02 17:12:56] SnackyCoins : tiem 4 rekt by le banga
[2015-12-02 17:13:35] MrRGnome : Is there any way to keep a position open past settlement?
[2015-12-02 17:13:36] messiaen8844 : let's see if it can win 2330
[2015-12-02 17:13:41] floopfloop : MrRGnome: no
[2015-12-02 17:13:45] SnackyCoins : MrRGnome: no, that's kind of the point
[2015-12-02 17:13:53] floopfloop : SnackyCoins: right? like wtf lol
[2015-12-02 17:14:01] habibi : 7d and 24 on same spot
[2015-12-02 17:14:02] habibi : nice
[2015-12-02 17:14:26] MrRGnome : Well, for example, last night I was waiting for the bounce to 360 most of the day, I would have liked the ability to rebuy at settlement to continue waiting instead of waking up at 5am to do it
[2015-12-02 17:14:48] floopfloop : MrRGnome: you are SOL
[2015-12-02 17:14:51] SnackyCoins : MrRGnome: me too 8) welcome to crypto trading
[2015-12-02 17:15:04] MrRGnome : If it's not something they are considering I'll just make a bot no big deal
[2015-12-02 17:15:17] SnackyCoins : you could use a spot market + margin: https://goo.gl/DrXD9o
[2015-12-02 17:15:21] floopfloop : ding ding ding, we have a winner!
[2015-12-02 17:15:26] SnackyCoins : those never expire, but you have to pay interest
[2015-12-02 17:15:31] SnackyCoins : so its a tradeoff
[2015-12-02 17:15:43] MrRGnome : Yeah I'm avoiding the interest. I'd rather get hit byt he 2 tiimes trade fee.
[2015-12-02 17:15:49] SnackyCoins : i prefer futures (bitmex futures) personally
[2015-12-02 17:16:01] SnackyCoins : bitmex is best futures :)
[2015-12-02 17:16:05] habibi : 7d lower then 24
[2015-12-02 17:16:08] habibi : why?
[2015-12-02 17:16:23] floopfloop : habibi: btc is fake money thats why
[2015-12-02 17:17:24] messiaen8844 : fake internet money backed by trolls
[2015-12-02 17:17:25] laisee : paper is real?
[2015-12-02 17:17:28] messiaen8844 : and baked by trolls
[2015-12-02 17:18:05] MrRGnome : baked trolls are the friendliest
[2015-12-02 17:18:06] messiaen8844 : now sell me all your coins
[2015-12-02 17:23:49] habibi : nice
[2015-12-02 17:23:54] habibi : buys
[2015-12-02 17:25:54] justinlooking : test
[2015-12-02 17:26:54] habibi : lel that finex support
[2015-12-02 17:27:23] messiaen8844 : BTC DAILY CANDLE
[2015-12-02 17:28:06] podizzle3k : what abou tit
[2015-12-02 17:28:35] messiaen8844 : sexy
[2015-12-02 17:28:43] podizzle3k : thx
[2015-12-02 17:28:47] podizzle3k : now what about the candle
[2015-12-02 17:29:09] habibi : doji
[2015-12-02 17:29:14] habibi : bullish one
[2015-12-02 17:29:20] habibi : but we will see how it will get blosed
[2015-12-02 17:29:23] habibi : closed*
[2015-12-02 17:29:46] messiaen8844 : 12 hr candle = twin towers
[2015-12-02 17:30:02] messiaen8844 : this range = previous top
[2015-12-02 17:30:24] messiaen8844 : this range = previous support for rebounce
[2015-12-02 17:30:59] messiaen8844 : we hit trend line and went up
[2015-12-02 17:31:49] messiaen8844 : stuff gonna happen pretty soon
[2015-12-02 17:32:08] floopfloop : I think it gonna crash
[2015-12-02 17:32:22] floopfloop : $250 btc ftw
[2015-12-02 17:32:32] messiaen8844 : sell then
[2015-12-02 17:32:34] floopfloop : short at 100x leverage
[2015-12-02 17:33:05] messiaen8844 : there's potencial for either side here
[2015-12-02 17:34:10] messiaen8844 : set your alerts and have fun :)
[2015-12-02 17:34:27] messiaen8844 : if it denies that bull scenario, yeah, going down hard
[2015-12-02 17:35:30] messiaen8844 : no wonder there's resistance in 2330/2350
[2015-12-02 17:53:17] TschavaTschigger : MrRGnome: they actually are considering adding instruments that convert themselves before settlement. At least arthur asked in the trollbox a few weeks ago what we think about the idea.
[2015-12-02 17:53:38] TschavaTschigger : but right now, every instrument settles
[2015-12-02 17:55:04] justinlooking : anyone know a good way to generate interval data from tick data?
[2015-12-02 17:59:11] TschavaTschigger : no, but I know a very bad way (the way I did it)
[2015-12-02 17:59:22] justinlooking : lol i think i have a few bad ways too
[2015-12-02 17:59:46] TschavaTschigger : :D
[2015-12-02 17:59:51] floopfloop : 350 here we come
[2015-12-02 18:03:16] floopfloop : guess not
[2015-12-02 18:03:18] floopfloop : the 2330 is real
[2015-12-02 18:07:40] jung1 : I will wait and see where we will go
[2015-12-02 18:08:35] jung1 : or wait what rapid say
[2015-12-02 18:11:44] habibi : he is perma bear :( even it dropped under 350 and no blood on the streets still
[2015-12-02 18:18:07] messiaen8844 : we might sideways quite a bit here
[2015-12-02 18:18:48] habibi : imho strong fight between bulls and bears atm
[2015-12-02 18:19:11] podizzle3k : meh
[2015-12-02 18:19:16] podizzle3k : just wait until da pumpy
[2015-12-02 18:22:34] jung1 : or dump
[2015-12-02 18:45:17] rapidtrades : guys what heppened to that
[2015-12-02 18:45:37] rapidtrades : rally...f chat
[2015-12-02 18:53:19] messiaen8844 : this happened: https://www.tradingview.com/x/4zNBiU2C/
[2015-12-02 18:54:47] rapidtrades : so u played the range and got lucky
[2015-12-02 18:54:52] rapidtrades : nice work i guess
[2015-12-02 18:59:08] Swedishnut : Coffee Coffee Coffee* in a Turkey Voice
[2015-12-02 19:09:09] rapidtrades : who's bulliish/bearish?
[2015-12-02 19:10:05] rapidtrades : talk b1cthes
[2015-12-02 19:10:18] rapidtrades : still short he
[2015-12-02 19:10:31] rapidtrades : *here..wtf is wrong with this chart
[2015-12-02 19:13:36] nickhnt : think is going down too
[2015-12-02 19:13:58] rapidtrades : *high five
[2015-12-02 19:14:04] rapidtrades : we're short buddies now
[2015-12-02 19:14:11] Swedishnut : I'm bullish myself thinking it will retrace to 370 at least
[2015-12-02 19:14:22] nickhnt : hahaha but im not short
[2015-12-02 19:14:25] nickhnt : just seeing the market
[2015-12-02 19:14:58] rapidtrades : Swedishnut: u don't get the high five sir. But I respect your opinion
[2015-12-02 19:17:12] Swedishnut : rapidtrades: /bow and I respect your opinions too good sir. It is a Mad World and Chaos is rampant in World Financial Panic.
[2015-12-02 19:18:51] messiaen8844 : might be a bit of down
[2015-12-02 19:21:33] messiaen8844 : out for now
[2015-12-02 19:26:44] podizzle3k : i thought your stop was 2250
[2015-12-02 19:26:47] podizzle3k : weak
[2015-12-02 20:17:29] podizzle3k : combo breaker
[2015-12-02 20:18:00] podizzle3k : everything is right in the world again, btc on the way up, rapidtrades is short
[2015-12-02 20:18:26] wurstgelee : great
[2015-12-02 20:18:52] podizzler3k_ : well its kinda on the way up
[2015-12-02 20:19:02] podizzler3k_ : just needs another shot of huobi jet fuel
[2015-12-02 20:19:11] wurstgelee : some small dip would be nce
[2015-12-02 20:19:16] wurstgelee : few $
[2015-12-02 20:19:23] wurstgelee : 4-5 mebbe
[2015-12-02 20:19:44] podizzler3k_ : how about $3
[2015-12-02 20:19:49] podizzler3k_ : i cant do better than $3.50
[2015-12-02 20:20:07] wurstgelee : ok for me
[2015-12-02 20:20:31] podizzler3k_ : let me call star xu and make the arrangements
[2015-12-02 20:20:37] podizzler3k_ : it is done.
[2015-12-02 20:20:58] wurstgelee : very well
[2015-12-02 20:23:09] jung1 : me boring
[2015-12-02 20:23:12] jung1 : meh
[2015-12-02 20:51:29] User__1 : does take tenge yet?
[2015-12-02 21:12:32] jung1 : dump?
[2015-12-02 21:13:58] wurstgelee : maybe
[2015-12-02 21:14:00] wurstgelee : watching
[2015-12-02 21:16:40] irbbqu : Kinda lol price action if this goes down now
[2015-12-02 21:16:56] ethexio : dumpit.gif
[2015-12-02 21:17:14] wurstgelee : no real momentum yet
[2015-12-02 21:17:48] floopfloop : ethexio: http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/poopin.gif
[2015-12-02 21:20:25] wurstgelee : podizzler3k_: small dip achieved. thanks ;)
[2015-12-02 21:21:31] jung1 : I dont touch it now
[2015-12-02 21:21:49] ethexio : Ahh i can't click on that. WHen I scroll up to it and hover it drops me down to bottom of trollbox
[2015-12-02 21:23:39] ethexio : weird..
[2015-12-02 21:23:57] ethexio : Might be hover plugin
[2015-12-02 21:29:13] jung1 : some moves
[2015-12-02 21:29:16] wurstgelee : yes
[2015-12-02 21:29:20] wurstgelee : great =)
[2015-12-02 21:34:04] jung1 : whats your bets? any chance to go up or we stay
[2015-12-02 21:34:46] wurstgelee : i placed my bet on up
[2015-12-02 21:36:00] Swedishnut : I think 370 at some spike or point but 365 + soon
[2015-12-02 21:36:30] wurstgelee : thats my plan. ;)
[2015-12-02 21:36:48] habibi : if we all got the same plan...
[2015-12-02 21:36:49] habibi : thats not good
[2015-12-02 21:37:00] floopfloop : im short at 100x leverage
[2015-12-02 21:37:07] wurstgelee : we always have rapidtrades to disagree
[2015-12-02 21:37:11] wurstgelee : and floopfloop
[2015-12-02 21:37:12] habibi : we all use 100x on 24 floopfloop
[2015-12-02 21:37:33] habibi : not everyone use isolated margin tho
[2015-12-02 21:37:43] wurstgelee : i do
[2015-12-02 21:37:51] jung1 : too
[2015-12-02 21:37:56] floopfloop : 100x margin, win or die
[2015-12-02 21:38:00] jung1 : if you love it let it go
[2015-12-02 21:38:05] jung1 : ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-12-02 21:38:05] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-02 21:38:05] habibi : on margin u still have 100x
[2015-12-02 21:38:19] habibi : i mean cross
[2015-12-02 21:38:38] habibi : but better control of capital imho, i used to go on isolated when i started here
[2015-12-02 21:38:43] floopfloop : habibi: I notice you haven't been able to sit down, what's wrong, did you have a date last night?
[2015-12-02 21:39:10] wurstgelee : i sometimes get distracted and forget about a position for 1-2 hours, so corss is dangerous for me
[2015-12-02 21:39:13] habibi : i went sleep early :( like half an hour before dump
[2015-12-02 21:39:19] wurstgelee : isolated+ some manual margin
[2015-12-02 21:40:05] wurstgelee : some serious resistance @ 2360 currently
[2015-12-02 21:57:10] wurstgelee : that candle
[2015-12-02 21:58:04] Swedishnut : woah
[2015-12-02 21:58:34] jung1 : nice buys on huobi
[2015-12-02 21:58:59] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-12-02 21:58:59] jung1 : 2k in last 3 min
[2015-12-02 22:00:50] jung1 : 3k
[2015-12-02 22:01:05] habibi : https://www.huobi.com/k/spot 5k in 5 minute canndle
[2015-12-02 22:01:11] habibi : but who cares about chiones volumen
[2015-12-02 22:01:25] jung1 : I do
[2015-12-02 22:02:42] User__1 : how trade tenge?
[2015-12-02 22:03:40] jung1 : what is tenge?
[2015-12-02 22:04:00] User__1 : kazakhstan tenge do u know it
[2015-12-02 22:04:07] jung1 : nah
[2015-12-02 22:20:18] jung1 : wee cheap coins
[2015-12-02 22:23:40] sleger : jung1: how many of these "cheap coins" are you buying ?
[2015-12-02 22:25:15] jung1 : Im long till 359,8 and buy more
[2015-12-02 22:30:08] sleger : 360 btc or contracts ?
[2015-12-02 22:31:08] jung1 : 24h
[2015-12-02 22:31:43] sleger : jung1: i was asking how many bitcoins you are buying = size of position
[2015-12-02 22:31:45] User__1 : how everyone today
[2015-12-02 22:31:52] User__1 : we trade big dollars yes
[2015-12-02 22:32:21] habibi : yes my brother
[2015-12-02 22:32:25] habibi : are u my father?
[2015-12-02 22:32:32] floopfloop : habibi: no I am
[2015-12-02 22:32:37] habibi : luke?
[2015-12-02 22:32:56] sleger : kids...
[2015-12-02 22:33:03] justinlooking : wahey, bilo's back
[2015-12-02 22:33:09] User__1 : sleger: I AM NOT KID
[2015-12-02 22:33:30] sleger : User__1: your caps lock key is broken, go get a new keyboard
[2015-12-02 22:33:32] habibi : i am not ur mother
[2015-12-02 22:33:33] habibi : father
[2015-12-02 22:33:38] User__1 : sorry i lose temper
[2015-12-02 22:33:55] User__1 : bitc coin big fun though when i figure out trade ha ha
[2015-12-02 22:34:21] floopfloop : User__1: trading 101
[2015-12-02 22:34:33] User__1 : 101 what? why so many
[2015-12-02 22:34:45] floopfloop : User__1: go to strip club. Bring USD. Exchange USD for services. Transaction complete
[2015-12-02 22:35:07] User__1 : ?? that trade strip for dollar dollars strip no good!
[2015-12-02 22:35:15] floopfloop : in your country I think they call them mosque's
[2015-12-02 22:35:57] floopfloop : User__1: http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/cs-go-say-9-11-was-t-sided.png
[2015-12-02 22:42:43] TschavaTschigger : pretty sure User__1 is rapid trolling us on another account but okay
[2015-12-02 23:06:53] justinlooking : rapidtrades: do u reckon there will be any voliatlity in the next 1-2 hours?
[2015-12-02 23:07:23] Swedishnut : nope price is stable guaranteed :) j/k
[2015-12-02 23:16:33] floopfloop : CEO of bitcoin just released a statement :O
[2015-12-02 23:17:32] jung1 : "it was prank bro"
[2015-12-02 23:30:33] zanza : do yall think this USA shooting gunna be good for Bitcoin price?
[2015-12-02 23:32:14] Swedishnut : why would it do anything
[2015-12-02 23:33:42] jung1 : butterfly effect
[2015-12-02 23:40:12] micmix : price stabilizers engaged, dump postponed until Swedishnut permission
[2015-12-02 23:41:22] micmix : engaging ETH dump instead
[2015-12-02 23:47:46] sleger : micmix: to your knowledge, is session volume correct ? It shows 371k contracts on the 24H but that seems very low
[2015-12-02 23:49:59] micmix : sleger: I'm not sure where to look for session volume. I see 24H turnover 6.75K XBT.
[2015-12-02 23:50:16] sleger : yes just above that
[2015-12-02 23:50:27] sleger : Session Volume 371,265 24H Turnover 6,756.4935 XBT
[2015-12-02 23:50:58] sleger : but session is only 12 hours vs 24h is ... 24h so that must be correct then
[2015-12-02 23:51:38] sleger : so 24h volume is about 1.8m contracts
[2015-12-02 23:52:17] sleger : bitmex: is it single count or double count ?
[2015-12-02 23:54:26] micmix : it's not double count, I asked Wally. session is 8 hours, last session started 20:00 UTC, so just 4 hours ago
[2015-12-02 23:54:45] micmix : 350k contract looks about right
[2015-12-02 23:54:46] sleger : sessions are not when settlement is done ?
[2015-12-02 23:55:17] micmix : no, they have 8 hour trading sessions
[2015-12-02 23:55:51] micmix : says so in the instruments table
[2015-12-02 23:56:11] sleger : micmix: ok i will look at it. Thanks
[2015-12-02 23:56:24] micmix : sleger: sure, happy to help :-)
[2015-12-03 00:47:52] podizzle3k : ah cool im out of xbth16
[2015-12-03 00:48:03] podizzle3k : now i just have to wait 100 days to get that profit
[2015-12-03 02:11:58] messiaen8844 : down?
[2015-12-03 02:28:23] kingscrown : https://twitter.com/kingscrownBTC/status/671866849877979136
[2015-12-03 02:59:44] messiaen8844 : moon time
[2015-12-03 04:11:28] podizzler3k : good stuff
[2015-12-03 04:19:47] Trade_master_3000 : in cross margin my margin used is scaled to my leverage?
[2015-12-03 04:19:59] Trade_master_3000 : 10% margin used = 10x?
[2015-12-03 04:20:22] BitMEX_Sam : If you're solely trading XBT24H, yes
[2015-12-03 04:20:30] Trade_master_3000 : ty
[2015-12-03 04:29:43] Swedishnut : off to 375 I see
[2015-12-03 04:36:07] Swedishnut : Nom Pockets
[2015-12-03 04:36:14] j8 : `16:36 - Swedishnut: I think 370 at some spike or point but 365 + soon`nice one
[2015-12-03 04:36:24] Swedishnut : ty :P
[2015-12-03 05:34:29] podizzler3k : sup brehs
[2015-12-03 05:34:36] podizzler3k : sup trade master 3k my 3k breh
[2015-12-03 05:58:37] Trade_master_3000 : the pnl calculator is bugged the tooltip wont show
[2015-12-03 05:59:19] Trade_master_3000 : yo
[2015-12-03 06:00:29] Trade_master_3000 : so quick question say i want to open up a 10,000 contract long/short cross margin with acct balance of 2btc, the buy cost then becomes 21.1% of my margin, would that put me at a leverage of 21.1 also?
[2015-12-03 06:01:08] Trade_master_3000 : this site is kinda confusing at first
[2015-12-03 06:02:32] SnackyCoins : i don't think you have enough margin to do that
[2015-12-03 06:02:59] SnackyCoins : 10k each way is still 20k contracts
[2015-12-03 06:03:08] Trade_master_3000 : no
[2015-12-03 06:03:20] Trade_master_3000 : i just said it that way so nobody knows which direction im really playing
[2015-12-03 06:03:33] Trade_master_3000 : not long short at same time haha
[2015-12-03 06:03:43] SnackyCoins : oh lol
[2015-12-03 06:07:30] SnackyCoins : well to answer your question, 10k contracts is ~36btc, so you'd be 18x? just woke up from a 90 minute nap.. still zonked
[2015-12-03 06:07:56] Trade_master_3000 : something like that
[2015-12-03 06:08:28] SnackyCoins : that is quite a large trade for that account size
[2015-12-03 06:08:54] Trade_master_3000 : i dont keep a lot on exchanges only enough for a couple trades
[2015-12-03 06:09:22] SnackyCoins : yeah but the account's margin call >.>
[2015-12-03 06:09:33] Trade_master_3000 : i consider the acct margin call my position size
[2015-12-03 06:10:09] Trade_master_3000 : no need for stop loss if you can use margin call the same way
[2015-12-03 06:10:11] SnackyCoins : that works i suppose :)
[2015-12-03 06:10:29] j8 : that gives you double the losses as if you exit with a stop loss actually.
[2015-12-03 06:10:46] j8 : on `XBT24H`
[2015-12-03 06:11:36] j8 : at 100x anyway.
[2015-12-03 06:12:20] j8 : it's like exiting at a price that's 0.5% worse than your liquidation price
[2015-12-03 06:13:23] Trade_master_3000 : if i want a stop loss of -/+ $10(the margin call for cross margin, not 100x) or so and my whole account on bmex is my regular 1 trade position size, not really. unless im completely wrong. But the hard part is figuring out how bmex works
[2015-12-03 06:13:50] Trade_master_3000 : in regards to its cross margin system
[2015-12-03 06:14:12] podizzler3k : j8 what are you saying
[2015-12-03 06:14:18] j8 : it's not twice as bad then.
[2015-12-03 06:14:19] podizzler3k : why would liquidation be worse than stop loss
[2015-12-03 06:14:28] j8 : because you lose the maintenance margin
[2015-12-03 06:15:07] podizzler3k : i see
[2015-12-03 06:15:27] Trade_master_3000 : i still dont see it
[2015-12-03 06:15:51] Swedishnut : still creeping back up to 375
[2015-12-03 06:16:00] j8 : say you're at 10x using cross margin, your liquidation price is roughly 9.5% away but you lose as much as if it was 10%. the maintenance margin covers the other 0.5%
[2015-12-03 06:16:34] SnackyCoins : i see, exiting at a 100% loss, you would still get your maint margin back, but getting MC'd takes that too.
[2015-12-03 06:16:38] j8 : if you're at 100x your liquidation price is 0.5% away but you would lose as much as if you traded out 1% away
[2015-12-03 06:17:27] Trade_master_3000 : i couldnt bring myself to trade 100x
[2015-12-03 06:18:02] Trade_master_3000 : so i should put my stop loss .5% before margin call?
[2015-12-03 06:18:15] Trade_master_3000 : in order to at least save that
[2015-12-03 06:19:11] j8 : you should put it somewhere before, but the main thing to consider is how likely it is to fill at whatever price
[2015-12-03 06:20:29] j8 : the one difference is, with the liquidation you're guaranteed to be out
[2015-12-03 06:22:33] SnackyCoins : man
[2015-12-03 06:22:35] SnackyCoins : no premium still
[2015-12-03 06:23:02] SnackyCoins : i'm buying more lol
[2015-12-03 06:26:37] Trade_master_3000 : does the pnl calculator only calculate 100x ?
[2015-12-03 06:26:48] Trade_master_3000 : might have to use 1b calc
[2015-12-03 06:27:19] SnackyCoins : its 1% margin req
[2015-12-03 06:27:36] SnackyCoins : you buy however many contracts you buy
[2015-12-03 06:27:42] SnackyCoins : and thats what your pnl is based off of
[2015-12-03 06:27:46] Trade_master_3000 : gotcha
[2015-12-03 06:28:10] Trade_master_3000 : been @ finex for too long and never really got into futures
[2015-12-03 06:28:11] SnackyCoins : even cross margin it still only requires the 1% (100x)
[2015-12-03 06:28:46] SnackyCoins : which is nice imo :)
[2015-12-03 06:33:42] Trade_master_3000 : I guess no oco orders on here yet
[2015-12-03 06:33:54] Trade_master_3000 : that would be nice
[2015-12-03 06:34:40] podizzler3k : i think thats being worked on
[2015-12-03 06:34:53] SnackyCoins : it is
[2015-12-03 06:36:58] Trade_master_3000 : low vol pump
[2015-12-03 06:37:09] Trade_master_3000 : is is stronger than the high volume sell?
[2015-12-03 06:37:31] Trade_master_3000 : ;D
[2015-12-03 06:48:49] germanjew : &BTC
[2015-12-03 06:49:00] germanjew : &btc
[2015-12-03 06:49:07] germanjew : &btc;
[2015-12-03 06:49:11] germanjew : lol
[2015-12-03 06:54:38] laisee : &btc;ump
[2015-12-03 07:30:51] zanza : 400 coming soon
[2015-12-03 07:33:11] micmix : I'm back, price stabilizers disengaged
[2015-12-03 07:50:28] jung1 : http://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/meet-the-goldman-sachs-of-bitcoin-115120200459_1.html
[2015-12-03 07:55:27] micmix : jung1: nice find! so who's Wally? :-)
[2015-12-03 07:56:52] jung1 : mtgox bot
[2015-12-03 08:00:33] laisee : Free Willy
[2015-12-03 08:08:01] jung1 : btw
[2015-12-03 08:08:13] jung1 : I logged on my olc cryptsy account
[2015-12-03 08:08:19] jung1 : and read a bit
[2015-12-03 08:08:27] jung1 : and cryptsy will be next gox imo
[2015-12-03 08:09:30] micmix : jung1: could be, I moved everything from Cryptsy almost a year ago. they had big problems with the trading engine and the API.
[2015-12-03 08:09:49] micmix : it was never fixed as far as I know
[2015-12-03 08:12:34] podizzler3k : top holders on okcoin are cashing out
[2015-12-03 08:12:56] podizzler3k : cryptsy had negative balances since day 1. i seriously doubt they have a balanced ledger
[2015-12-03 08:13:04] podizzler3k : probably way in the hole by now
[2015-12-03 08:13:25] jung1 : yeah and they have problem with withrawals
[2015-12-03 08:13:45] jung1 : podizzler3k: so what? they gonna hold?
[2015-12-03 08:13:52] jung1 : on okc
[2015-12-03 08:14:46] wurstgelee : b-b-b-but Julian Wu says long to 395 ;)
[2015-12-03 08:14:50] micmix : yeah, I got tired fighting with the trading engine. API reported trades that didn't seem to happen, orders disappearing and so on. moved all bots to other alt exchanges eventually
[2015-12-03 08:15:10] jung1 : craptsy
[2015-12-03 08:15:45] jung1 : podizzler3k: so we're goind down? what do you think?
[2015-12-03 08:17:02] micmix : I'm not going to predict anything but our short and mid-term trend-following bots are short for now
[2015-12-03 08:18:18] jung1 : and about exchanges bter and btc-e will have problems in future imo
[2015-12-03 08:18:26] micmix : long-term no one really knows :-)
[2015-12-03 08:18:38] jung1 : too much money without transparency
[2015-12-03 08:21:12] jung1 : ALL HAIL BITMEX
[2015-12-03 08:21:18] jung1 : : |
[2015-12-03 08:21:23] micmix : I don't think any exchange is totally safe, well maybe except Coinbase. And Coinbase can close your account without any explanation. Spread your money around and don't keep all your coins on one exchange
[2015-12-03 08:21:35] micmix : BitMEX is totally safe of course :-)
[2015-12-03 08:21:45] micmix : but it's not an exchange
[2015-12-03 08:23:03] jung1 : it will change
[2015-12-03 08:23:08] jung1 : open legder
[2015-12-03 08:23:10] jung1 : etc
[2015-12-03 08:23:25] jung1 : in '16 will be firsts decentralized exchanges
[2015-12-03 08:23:33] jung1 : and it will be game changer
[2015-12-03 08:23:34] micmix : exchanges have to deal with fiat, so I'm not sure how it's going to work
[2015-12-03 08:23:46] rapidtrades : sup fellas
[2015-12-03 08:24:01] micmix : rapidtrades: oh, our Kazakh friend is here!
[2015-12-03 08:24:13] jung1 : micmix: well this is whyn its not ready now
[2015-12-03 08:24:18] jung1 : dunno also
[2015-12-03 08:24:33] jung1 : but all the banks that works with bitcoin
[2015-12-03 08:24:46] stevelim : Charlie Lee: "We are both against BIP101, as we feel like it's way too aggressive and dangerous." - That is BTCC, F2Pool and Bitfury that will never implement BIP101. ~50% of the hashrate (reddit.com)
[2015-12-03 08:24:48] jung1 : could find solution
[2015-12-03 08:24:59] stevelim : Is this the reason for the fall?
[2015-12-03 08:25:12] jung1 : what fall?
[2015-12-03 08:25:33] jung1 : intresting. bitstam join to bip101
[2015-12-03 08:25:35] podizzler3k : no its not steve
[2015-12-03 08:25:50] podizzler3k : f2pool btcc and bitfury announced that weeks ago
[2015-12-03 08:26:05] podizzler3k : they even posted pics of some official documents that they all signed
[2015-12-03 08:26:11] podizzler3k : smiling and shit
[2015-12-03 08:26:27] jung1 : its bad for bitcoin
[2015-12-03 08:26:28] stevelim : well, I just saw it so...
[2015-12-03 08:26:29] podizzler3k : the reason for the dump is okcoin top futures holders cashing out
[2015-12-03 08:26:40] podizzler3k : stevelim i know, just passing along the info
[2015-12-03 08:27:01] jung1 : could be good time for move money to litecoin
[2015-12-03 08:27:34] podizzler3k : haha
[2015-12-03 08:27:37] podizzler3k : dunno about all that
[2015-12-03 08:27:42] podizzler3k : there is some big meeting coming up
[2015-12-03 08:27:47] podizzler3k : where they will hash it out
[2015-12-03 08:27:50] podizzler3k : no pun intended
[2015-12-03 08:28:02] micmix : wasn't the top okc futures holder margin called on like 1M position?
[2015-12-03 08:28:50] stevelim : I dont see any (long position) margin call yet today.
[2015-12-03 08:29:20] micmix : I think it was when we dropped below 350 briefly
[2015-12-03 08:30:28] psyfur : reason i saw for dump was some finex person dumped a bunch
[2015-12-03 08:30:44] psyfur : then china followed, and now confidence is wavering
[2015-12-03 08:31:41] podizzler3k : hmm im pretty sure china exchanges make the market these days but i guess a 1000+ dump on finex would have a ripple effect
[2015-12-03 08:31:50] psyfur : well
[2015-12-03 08:32:02] psyfur : it's what started the dump from the 380s
[2015-12-03 08:32:04] stevelim : okcoin will start triggering margin calls around 361-362 on weeklies according to my calculation
[2015-12-03 08:32:20] psyfur : finex doesn't do shit to move the price up and they initiate all the big dumps
[2015-12-03 08:32:41] psyfur : bearwhales thinking they're being clever by preempting everyone else
[2015-12-03 08:32:58] jung1 : good time to buy xrp https://poloniex.com/marginTrading#btc_xrp
[2015-12-03 08:33:28] podizzler3k : stevelim that would be bad
[2015-12-03 08:40:46] jung1 : btw
[2015-12-03 08:40:58] jung1 : what do you think about trump as US president?
[2015-12-03 08:41:25] jung1 : look at Recent Trades (XBT24H)
[2015-12-03 08:41:34] jung1 : okcoin whales moved to bitmex
[2015-12-03 08:41:39] rapidtrades : upr or down fellas?
[2015-12-03 08:41:48] jung1 : dwon imo
[2015-12-03 08:41:52] micmix : trump is a crazy f%ck who should stick to reality shows
[2015-12-03 08:41:59] ethexio : Weird
[2015-12-03 08:42:05] rapidtrades : podizzler3k: how bout u fella?
[2015-12-03 08:42:32] jung1 : micmix: but he know how to deal with money
[2015-12-03 08:42:44] podizzler3k : rapidtrades buying the dips
[2015-12-03 08:42:56] podizzler3k : not feelin too good about it, gonna set some stops and pass out
[2015-12-03 08:43:23] rapidtrades : ok fella
[2015-12-03 08:43:42] podizzler3k : stick with calling people fella im sure it will catch on
[2015-12-03 08:44:00] rapidtrades : :)
[2015-12-03 08:44:26] ethexio : OK pal
[2015-12-03 08:45:25] rapidtrades : Goldman calling for 3% drop in the Euro today
[2015-12-03 08:45:50] podizzler3k : yeah a lot of people shorting the fuck out it
[2015-12-03 08:46:51] micmix : jung1: maybe he's good with money but that doesn't make him a good candidate. I'll be very upset if he wins the nomination. Well I don't really like any of the top GOP contenders.
[2015-12-03 08:48:58] jung1 : oh shit my eyes. I turn to white theme
[2015-12-03 08:49:54] rapidtrades : wait there is a diff theme here
[2015-12-03 08:50:00] podizzler3k : i use white :)
[2015-12-03 08:50:05] podizzler3k : but i have flux on always
[2015-12-03 08:50:10] habibi : even with flux
[2015-12-03 08:50:19] habibi : after using black u wont go back to white :p
[2015-12-03 08:50:20] jung1 : rapidtrades: my prefferences
[2015-12-03 08:50:28] jung1 : habibi: yep
[2015-12-03 08:50:33] podizzler3k : well part of it is i use it at work a lot and black websites dont give off a very professional vibe
[2015-12-03 08:50:40] rapidtrades : black looks slick but confusing
[2015-12-03 08:51:08] jung1 : black sites fit to bitcoin, dark web, crime and drugs
[2015-12-03 08:51:17] rapidtrades : jung1: :D
[2015-12-03 08:51:27] jung1 : and satoshi is black as well
[2015-12-03 08:51:28] jung1 : se
[2015-12-03 08:51:30] jung1 : so
[2015-12-03 08:59:42] podizzler3k : haha
[2015-12-03 09:00:08] podizzler3k : what if satoshi had big fake titties
[2015-12-03 09:00:13] podizzler3k : that woudl be a surprise
[2015-12-03 09:03:38] jung1 : bitcoin could be made by cia or some other group that realized that current finatial system will fall and people no longer trust banks or goverments
[2015-12-03 09:07:02] podizzler3k : very possible
[2015-12-03 09:07:20] podizzler3k : maybe snowden will tell us who satoshi is
[2015-12-03 09:07:52] jung1 : yeah but after mass adoption
[2015-12-03 09:08:09] jung1 : when will be too late to change anything
[2015-12-03 09:08:29] habibi : Setlcoin is the future lelelel
[2015-12-03 09:08:45] jung1 : we have like 5 years to became milionaires