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[2015-11-14 23:08:33] Murch : lmao this is insanity
[2015-11-14 23:08:46] habibi : maybe.. but myabe someone choosed stamp
[2015-11-14 23:08:48] habibi : to move all markets
[2015-11-14 23:08:53] habibi : while gather on any others
[2015-11-14 23:10:17] habibi : shiet
[2015-11-14 23:10:17] habibi : http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/11/14/isil-militants-linked-to-france-terrorist-attacks-had-a-bitcoin-address-with-3-million-dollars/
[2015-11-14 23:10:55] podizzler3000 : ISIS DUMP!
[2015-11-14 23:11:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: For real? Holy shit. As if this couldn't get any crazier
[2015-11-14 23:11:25] habibi : i predict it :(
[2015-11-14 23:11:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: You did
[2015-11-14 23:12:06] habibi : already people twitting about banning encryption
[2015-11-14 23:12:19] habibi : next week or weeks can be really harmfull for btc
[2015-11-14 23:12:22] messiaen8844 : nothing on that groups twitter about bitcoin recently
[2015-11-14 23:12:33] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: :(
[2015-11-14 23:12:34] habibi : what means ... ultra short :p
[2015-11-14 23:12:46] messiaen8844 : newsbtc = ultimate shit site
[2015-11-14 23:12:49] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : The banning encryption thing is such fuckery
[2015-11-14 23:13:00] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: Yeah I'm still wondering if it's real too
[2015-11-14 23:13:14] messiaen8844 : those sites are run by 12yr olds, or just scammers
[2015-11-14 23:13:28] messiaen8844 : bitcoin media as sucky as any mainstream media
[2015-11-14 23:13:43] podizzler3000 : true newsbtc = crap
[2015-11-14 23:14:12] messiaen8844 : it's one of things I'm ashamed of bitcoin, news are usually ultra ultra deceptive and scammy...
[2015-11-14 23:14:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : podizzler3000: Agreed. Going to try to find other sources
[2015-11-14 23:14:24] habibi : yea i hope u are right guys
[2015-11-14 23:14:40] zanza : at least it takes off the notion that bitcoin is only used on darknet, right?
[2015-11-14 23:15:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: lol I guess
[2015-11-14 23:16:13] messiaen8844 : but unfortunately this is the perfect excuse for another media crackdown on encryption, bitcoin, etc
[2015-11-14 23:16:20] messiaen8844 : take off rights and privacy
[2015-11-14 23:16:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: Yeah that's one thing that really concerns me. Terrorist attacks are a great opportunity for governments use citizens fear to their advantage
[2015-11-14 23:17:08] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Happened with 9/11
[2015-11-14 23:17:22] habibi : someone bought 3k btc, then sell off volume was the same lel
[2015-11-14 23:17:31] habibi : stamp is funny today ;p
[2015-11-14 23:17:34] messiaen8844 : habibi he wanted to buy 3 btc
[2015-11-14 23:17:35] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: which sickens me
[2015-11-14 23:17:40] zanza : another gemini reverse trade maybe
[2015-11-14 23:17:51] habibi : no chance with this slovakian exchange i think
[2015-11-14 23:18:05] gustavo7 : woo roller coaster
[2015-11-14 23:18:48] messiaen8844 : ISIS = another consequence of USA government fucking all over the world
[2015-11-14 23:19:03] habibi : they are pretty trustworthy for me after action with hacking and refunding btc from theirs own pockets
[2015-11-14 23:19:08] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: Totally. Also of them fucking over all the world
[2015-11-14 23:19:54] SnackyCoins : And then somebody said, "hey maybe we should just leave the rest of the world alone" http://i.imgur.com/7vxNQ9c.jpg
[2015-11-14 23:20:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: ++
[2015-11-14 23:21:11] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : It's so messed up that the U.S. creates the climate for these sort of attacks and then uses them as an excuse to take away its citizens' rights in the name of fighting terrorism
[2015-11-14 23:21:31] zanza : not JUST USA, western europe also
[2015-11-14 23:21:35] zanza : and damn canada
[2015-11-14 23:21:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: Yeah it's not just the U.S., but they're the biggest part of the problem
[2015-11-14 23:22:10] zanza : yeah, the "ringleader"
[2015-11-14 23:22:13] messiaen8844 : after the weekend we'll see how this affects markets all over the world... bitcoin too
[2015-11-14 23:22:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I feel like I should be sharing a PGP key to have this discussion lol. Hi NSA!
[2015-11-14 23:23:34] zanza : what if SnackyCoins is undercover CIA?
[2015-11-14 23:23:47] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: lol
[2015-11-14 23:23:59] abc123 : well i am ABC
[2015-11-14 23:24:03] zanza : :o
[2015-11-14 23:24:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : abc123: :)
[2015-11-14 23:24:10] abc123 : lol
[2015-11-14 23:25:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : abc123: Agency for Banning Cryptography?
[2015-11-14 23:25:19] messiaen8844 : CALL THE BLOCKCHAIN ALLIANCE!!!
[2015-11-14 23:25:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: hahaha
[2015-11-14 23:25:39] zanza : hah
[2015-11-14 23:25:41] abc123 : nice lol
[2015-11-14 23:25:55] messiaen8844 : I wonder why the alliance didn't shut down Craptsy yet ?
[2015-11-14 23:26:01] zanza : rofl
[2015-11-14 23:26:24] messiaen8844 : you know there's a AMA on bitcoin.com with director for blockchain alliance
[2015-11-14 23:26:41] messiaen8844 : but since Roger Ver can't understand how stupid AMA is on traditional forums nobody is there
[2015-11-14 23:27:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : They should be called AEQs, not AMAs
[2015-11-14 23:27:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Answering Easy Questions
[2015-11-14 23:28:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: All that drama and still no breakout...
[2015-11-14 23:30:14] messiaen8844 : it's back where it was
[2015-11-14 23:30:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: Yep. Now I'm going to try to figure out if anyone knows what the heck just happened
[2015-11-14 23:32:01] messiaen8844 : I wonder what kind of manipulation can be done with that... buy hard, then short hard on futures with leverage?
[2015-11-14 23:32:10] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: so much craziness
[2015-11-14 23:32:21] Murch : Im thinking down at this point though
[2015-11-14 23:32:37] Murch : Gonna short the rallies
[2015-11-14 23:32:42] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: I have no idea. Sounds like a losing proposition to me almost no matter what with all that slippage on Bitstamp
[2015-11-14 23:32:47] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Good luck! :)
[2015-11-14 23:32:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'm waiting for something more concrete
[2015-11-14 23:32:59] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Appreciate it :)
[2015-11-14 23:34:46] zanza : that 15k order is back on `XBTH16`
[2015-11-14 23:35:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: Hmm. It's not a liquidation
[2015-11-14 23:35:36] zanza : buyers remorse?
[2015-11-14 23:35:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: I don't see it. What price?
[2015-11-14 23:36:15] TschavaTschigger : god this ISIS bitcoin link is just insane... I truly hope this is not true, otherwise I see bad times coming for bitcoin
[2015-11-14 23:36:31] zanza : 444.28
[2015-11-14 23:38:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: Still there? I don't see it :/
[2015-11-14 23:38:47] zanza : just look at March recent trades
[2015-11-14 23:38:52] zanza : its the second from the top
[2015-11-14 23:38:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: Oh yeah I see now
[2015-11-14 23:38:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : crazy
[2015-11-14 23:39:12] zanza : it was a liquidation this morning, then someone picked it up, now its dumped back
[2015-11-14 23:39:23] zanza : is it BitMEX liquidation?
[2015-11-14 23:39:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : TschavaTschigger: I'm skeptical of its authenticity, but even if it is real I don't think it's the kind of narrative that people involved in Bitcoin are likely to be moved by
[2015-11-14 23:40:29] messiaen8844 : have you ever loooked at newsbtc?
[2015-11-14 23:40:36] messiaen8844 : one of the crappiest of all sites
[2015-11-14 23:41:08] messiaen8844 : blockchain address or it didn't happen ;)
[2015-11-14 23:41:23] messiaen8844 : if they knew it, FBI would be all over everything that touched that
[2015-11-14 23:41:28] messiaen8844 : exchanges, etc
[2015-11-14 23:43:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: I'm especially suspicious of this quote. Just sounds like a lie to me. "Most of the Bitcoin funding sites utilized by the Islamic State are on the deep web and we have managed to uncover several and successfully shut them down in order to limit the funding extremists receive through the use of cryptocurrencies."
[2015-11-14 23:44:00] TschavaTschigger : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: it's not about the people alreacy involved in bitcoin, but about governments(authorities who would like to take bitcoin down anyway. And if this is true, they finally have a legitimate reason
[2015-11-14 23:45:11] TschavaTschigger : and yeah, it can't be taken down in a technical sense, but declaring trading and posession illegal would pretty much destroy the currency for "legit people" like us
[2015-11-14 23:45:15] messiaen8844 : ISIS using bitcoin would be risky for them... why not use perfect anonymous cash?
[2015-11-14 23:45:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : TschavaTschigger: True, that's concerning. It appears to me that NewsBTC has used old sources and, citing them as new, has jumped to conclusions about the attacks yesterday
[2015-11-14 23:46:04] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: That too
[2015-11-14 23:46:11] messiaen8844 : plus, nothing on twitter of that"group" about it
[2015-11-14 23:46:56] TschavaTschigger : well.... hopefully you are right and this is all just bullshit. I honestly don't think these ISIS morons are smart enough to use bitcoin anyway
[2015-11-14 23:47:20] messiaen8844 : not sure wher ISIS is based, but I don't think bitcoin is that easy to cash out ;P
[2015-11-14 23:47:56] TschavaTschigger : or any ISIS guys here? tradng XBT24h to fund next car bomb?
[2015-11-14 23:48:22] sleger : "not sure wher ISIS is based" ? wtf ?
[2015-11-14 23:48:42] TschavaTschigger : I also rofled at that quote
[2015-11-14 23:48:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : TschavaTschigger: You just put yourself on about 50 different watchlists buddy lol
[2015-11-14 23:50:21] TschavaTschigger : messiaen8844: just go to www.isis.com and click on "about us", there you'll see the address of their headquarters
[2015-11-14 23:50:34] messiaen8844 : lol
[2015-11-14 23:51:11] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : TschavaTschigger: Their site is coming soon. Yay! /s
[2015-11-14 23:53:27] zanza : maybe its Floopy?
[2015-11-14 23:53:34] messiaen8844 : bitcoin 333, again 666 /2 ...
[2015-11-14 23:53:41] zanza : illuminati ?
[2015-11-15 00:00:13] Murch : Shorting all the way up if I need to this time.
[2015-11-15 00:00:35] zanza : lol murch
[2015-11-15 00:01:29] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Why are you so convinced there's a dump coming?
[2015-11-15 00:02:03] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Due to the price action from Nov 12 until now
[2015-11-15 00:04:07] Murch : The dumps have been way more violent and larger volume than the rises
[2015-11-15 00:04:15] Murch : The rises have been pathetic as crap
[2015-11-15 00:04:17] sleger : Murch: define dump, how many points down ? by when ?
[2015-11-15 00:05:00] Murch : The four tops you can draw a trendline to on the 30m chart
[2015-11-15 00:07:20] sleger : i dont draw lines sorry, just tell me
[2015-11-15 00:07:43] Murch : One sec
[2015-11-15 00:07:57] jung1 : damn bitcoin is not moving so long now
[2015-11-15 00:08:06] jung1 : 333 all day, all night
[2015-11-15 00:08:39] sleger : Murch: I'm just saying that by saying there will be a dump, without saying anything else, you have 99.99% of at some scale being right, so you're not really saying anything
[2015-11-15 00:10:47] FreeForB : negative premium for once. Once we clear $334.50 on finex we will move
[2015-11-15 00:11:02] jung1 : btw gemini 2200 http://i.imgur.com/sabA0Jd.png?1
[2015-11-15 00:11:07] jung1 : future is now
[2015-11-15 00:12:26] sleger : jung1: is that the offer ? because highest traded was 605 only
[2015-11-15 00:13:44] Murch : https://www.tradingview.com/x/s8qOooBZ/
[2015-11-15 00:14:22] jung1 : http://i.imgur.com/jlxcbvG.png meh fat fingers
[2015-11-15 00:14:30] jung1 : they canceled it
[2015-11-15 00:14:53] jung1 : and it was like 85btc between 400 and 2200
[2015-11-15 00:14:58] sleger : jung1: yes i know but the top was still 605
[2015-11-15 00:15:30] sleger : Murch: ok, so go short now, TP = and SL = ?
[2015-11-15 00:16:11] Murch : sleger: I'm playing quick moves. If the price jumps now, I short and get 1-2 points if I can.
[2015-11-15 00:16:57] sleger : ok so nothing where i can come back tomorrow and mock you because you failed ? :p
[2015-11-15 00:18:12] Murch : sleger: Nope, I get out when it moves against me.
[2015-11-15 00:18:49] sleger : I still really believe those charts mean nothing though
[2015-11-15 00:20:26] Murch : You don't need a huge edge to make money on moves
[2015-11-15 00:21:48] Murch : And I can't show all my reasoning in one chart, so I just share my opinion, it's correct to be skeptical of what I'm saying.
[2015-11-15 00:24:18] Murch : If I'm totally wrong and the price is about to go +50 dollars, then I'll hopefully switch my strategy accordingly in time.
[2015-11-15 00:25:14] messiaen8844 : time to roll thedice
[2015-11-15 00:26:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: I'm thinking it could be a while longer before breakout, although the one hour BBands haven't been this tight for a long time
[2015-11-15 00:26:57] messiaen8844 : tight bands for long time = explosion will happen soon
[2015-11-15 00:27:02] messiaen8844 : just follow which way it breaks
[2015-11-15 00:27:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: I think that's a good call. Thought that pump from Stamp was it but China said no because they make the rules
[2015-11-15 00:35:50] messiaen8844 : back to sideways, same range lol
[2015-11-15 00:36:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Look at how the price has found support on top of the 12 hour Ichimoku cloud. empted to buy now but I'll be patient
[2015-11-15 00:37:00] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *Tempted
[2015-11-15 00:37:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : http://i.cubeupload.com/TsnyMn.png
[2015-11-15 00:38:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : That declining 12 hour volume and the tightness of the 1 hour bands tells me something major is going to happen
[2015-11-15 00:39:50] messiaen8844 : that's one of my scenarios
[2015-11-15 00:40:36] messiaen8844 : that we are in a strong support zone and we might move sideways till the end of the year between 325 and 400
[2015-11-15 00:40:36] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: And the other is we punch down through so hard the bulls go into hiding for a few months?
[2015-11-15 00:41:20] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Oh I see. I wouldn't mind that a bit really. Better than 220-280
[2015-11-15 00:41:21] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: If it pushes down, I hope there's a bullish bounce off of that. That's the kind of trolling I'd like to see.
[2015-11-15 00:41:26] messiaen8844 : other one we go back to 220/280 range, either way I think
[2015-11-15 00:41:38] messiaen8844 : lots of zig-zags in both scenarios
[2015-11-15 00:41:44] messiaen8844 : also, look at bitcoin weekly
[2015-11-15 00:42:35] messiaen8844 : on my long-time holding I do some position trading based on weekly
[2015-11-15 00:42:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Haha I'm thinking everyone is watching this tightening range and the direction it is confirmed broken by the BBands is the direction it's going because there's so much pent up pressure. No fakeouts. We'll see though
[2015-11-15 00:43:01] messiaen8844 : sold pretty much all between 400 and 500, still rebuying it
[2015-11-15 00:43:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: Oh cool. That's very long term. Does it work well?
[2015-11-15 00:44:00] messiaen8844 : this year it worked very well
[2015-11-15 00:44:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Guess you just answered my question mostly haha. I should have sold once we approached 500. Things were just getting too crazy but the thoughts of a bubble got to me
[2015-11-15 00:44:20] messiaen8844 : sure I don't get tops and bottoms, but a got a good range of movemens
[2015-11-15 00:44:52] messiaen8844 : I missed the last spikes of price
[2015-11-15 00:45:25] messiaen8844 : even sold some at $320, because my last buy was at 260
[2015-11-15 00:45:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: I see. Well that's still profit :)
[2015-11-15 00:45:48] messiaen8844 : yes, better safe than sorry
[2015-11-15 00:45:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Looking at the weekly now it seems like a move up is sort of obvious
[2015-11-15 00:46:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : But that's probably my bullish bias speaking mostly
[2015-11-15 00:46:29] messiaen8844 : it's not clear yet
[2015-11-15 00:47:22] messiaen8844 : we could retest 300 in the next weeks, and then if we got up I would be bullish
[2015-11-15 00:47:24] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: I agree with you, but a bullish scenario still has room to go down on the weekly I feel like.
[2015-11-15 00:48:53] messiaen8844 : after 8 weeks of solid up, we might just face another month of sideways
[2015-11-15 00:49:38] messiaen8844 : markets are so complicated... so many different information in different time frames
[2015-11-15 00:50:17] messiaen8844 : china trying yet again
[2015-11-15 00:51:49] gustavo7 : ye pumpin
[2015-11-15 00:52:37] messiaen8844 : hope they pump moar, I need to see those cheap coins I got after the bitsamp fail
[2015-11-15 00:52:42] messiaen8844 : sell
[2015-11-15 00:54:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: Wish I had held on to mine. They'd still be solidly in profit
[2015-11-15 00:55:04] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: That's going to be even better if we go up
[2015-11-15 00:57:34] zanza : ก็็็็็็็็็็็็็ʕ•͡ᴥ•ʔ ก้้้้้้้้้้้
[2015-11-15 00:57:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Need to get dinner but don't want to miss the pump, don't trust presetting orders. What do I do
[2015-11-15 00:57:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *?
[2015-11-15 00:57:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: What's that?
[2015-11-15 00:57:57] zanza : polar bear
[2015-11-15 00:58:02] zanza : with confetti
[2015-11-15 00:58:56] messiaen8844 : YOU HAX0R
[2015-11-15 00:59:42] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: What I saw: http://i.cubeupload.com/DrIFpT.png
[2015-11-15 00:59:57] zanza : hmm
[2015-11-15 01:00:06] zanza : thats a screenshot you made?
[2015-11-15 01:00:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: Yes
[2015-11-15 01:00:44] zanza : you must have a plugin that blocks it or something
[2015-11-15 01:01:05] Murch : Shorted that
[2015-11-15 01:04:26] SnackyCoins : he doesn't have the fonts/language
[2015-11-15 01:04:29] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: All your work shorting the "highs"... I hope it pays off
[2015-11-15 01:04:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Must be
[2015-11-15 01:04:51] messiaen8844 : ran out of beer, gf is 6k miles away and yet no good trade today, what a lousy saturday night lol
[2015-11-15 01:04:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: Latest version of Chrome for mac
[2015-11-15 01:05:10] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Just trying to follow a strategy. I'm constantly adjusting my position too
[2015-11-15 01:05:33] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: That's a bummer. Hopefully there's at least a good trade soon!
[2015-11-15 01:05:35] SnackyCoins : fonts is a system thing
[2015-11-15 01:05:56] SnackyCoins : unless the page you're on loads some 8)
[2015-11-15 01:06:03] messiaen8844 : I have unrealised profit, but not yet to cover some loss because of the stamp fucker lol
[2015-11-15 01:06:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Well I hope it works :) Gotta rebuild that account after getting chopped up recently
[2015-11-15 01:06:25] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: Good luck on that
[2015-11-15 01:06:29] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: yup yup. If it breaks up, I'll follow it too.
[2015-11-15 01:06:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Good to hear. Being too attached to one direction is a sure way to get burned
[2015-11-15 01:06:59] messiaen8844 : someone call the stamper and tell him to buy another 3000 btc
[2015-11-15 01:07:40] messiaen8844 : mr. fat fingers keep at 2140 in china
[2015-11-15 01:07:51] messiaen8844 : I mean, still @ 2140
[2015-11-15 01:09:00] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: Haha
[2015-11-15 01:09:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Is it greedy to be thinking about the possibility of a 5% jump when this breaks?
[2015-11-15 01:09:27] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *5% swing (could be up or down)
[2015-11-15 01:09:28] zanza : could be a moon break
[2015-11-15 01:09:36] zanza : $30,000 coins
[2015-11-15 01:09:54] zanza : Bitcoin ETF, Winklevoss exchange
[2015-11-15 01:09:59] zanza : lot of things coming
[2015-11-15 01:10:10] messiaen8844 : bitcoin ETF = not gonna happen anytime soon lol
[2015-11-15 01:10:13] SnackyCoins : the winklevoss exchange is already up and it's a joke
[2015-11-15 01:10:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: lol $30,000 coins?
[2015-11-15 01:10:18] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: True
[2015-11-15 01:10:26] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Especially after the rollback
[2015-11-15 01:11:07] SnackyCoins : bitmex is more trustworthy, has better features, and more liquidity than gemini 8)
[2015-11-15 01:11:24] zanza : they are different tho
[2015-11-15 01:11:39] SnackyCoins : they're regulated, that's about it
[2015-11-15 01:12:02] zanza : Gemini is for exchanging $ <-> BTC
[2015-11-15 01:12:19] messiaen8844 : gemini is not a trading exchange
[2015-11-15 01:12:26] SnackyCoins : it's a spot market
[2015-11-15 01:12:32] SnackyCoins : like bitstamp or bitfinex
[2015-11-15 01:12:33] zanza : that too
[2015-11-15 01:12:38] SnackyCoins : not like coinbase/circle
[2015-11-15 01:12:47] zanza : like coinbase exchange
[2015-11-15 01:12:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Right, Coinbase/Circle are brokers
[2015-11-15 01:12:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Although Coinbase Exchange is a spot market
[2015-11-15 01:13:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Then you have BitMEX/Woodchipper/Hooby/796/etc. of which one is a futures market and the others are shady bucket shops
[2015-11-15 01:14:05] TschavaTschigger : @IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb woodchipper has futures too
[2015-11-15 01:14:16] SnackyCoins : woosh~
[2015-11-15 01:14:25] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : TschavaTschigger: I know haha, just making fun of it
[2015-11-15 01:15:23] zanza : whos bot is selling the `XBT7D` now?
[2015-11-15 01:15:35] zanza : keeps following me
[2015-11-15 01:15:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: idk
[2015-11-15 01:16:12] podizzler3000 : woodchipper is okcoin i take it
[2015-11-15 01:16:35] SnackyCoins : (IRC users do not see wordfilters)
[2015-11-15 01:17:17] TschavaTschigger : I have never experienced a day with such low activity... super-boring
[2015-11-15 01:17:19] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : podizzler3000: Yes. I typed it out instead of using the filter
[2015-11-15 01:17:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : TschavaTschigger: It's happened before for sure, but yeah this is extremely slow
[2015-11-15 01:17:55] messiaen8844 : well, it was like this before the bubble
[2015-11-15 01:17:58] SnackyCoins : it was like this all summer lol
[2015-11-15 01:18:00] messiaen8844 : weeks with little movement
[2015-11-15 01:18:04] SnackyCoins : https://i.imgur.com/t0Pw9AN.png
[2015-11-15 01:18:26] TschavaTschigger : SnackyCoins: lol
[2015-11-15 01:18:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : The triangle we're in is $6 wide right now
[2015-11-15 01:18:57] messiaen8844 : people even said good things about bictoin not volative as before
[2015-11-15 01:19:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Hahaha that's great
[2015-11-15 01:22:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Is that where the name Woodchipper came from?
[2015-11-15 01:22:24] zanza : hilarious SnackyCoins
[2015-11-15 01:23:18] SnackyCoins : dunno if that image came before or after
[2015-11-15 01:23:24] SnackyCoins : its pretty old tho
[2015-11-15 01:23:45] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Good stuff haha
[2015-11-15 01:28:38] FreeForB : made it through 334. Now it should be fun.
[2015-11-15 01:29:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : FreeForB: Significance of 334?
[2015-11-15 01:29:18] FreeForB : just a small wall that was holding us up.
[2015-11-15 01:29:40] FreeForB : we were bouncing off of it the last 30 mins
[2015-11-15 01:29:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : FreeForB: Oh ok. I didn't notice that
[2015-11-15 01:30:35] FreeForB : its only 1000 coins to 340. Just need a little volume and we are there.
[2015-11-15 01:37:13] sleger : FreeForB: if bitfinex were the only bitcoin exchange, you would be right, but it's not, so you are wrong
[2015-11-15 01:39:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I was going to say that there are other exchanges to look at. Also, the orderbook doesn't tend to have much information because it fills up as the price moves. It may look like only 1000 coins to 340 but once it starts moving it will be more
[2015-11-15 01:41:19] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : doesn't tend to be that useful I mean
[2015-11-15 01:42:11] FreeForB : sleger: Of course I know that. So you are predicting we will not move up?
[2015-11-15 01:42:37] sleger : no, i am just saying your comment was incorrect
[2015-11-15 01:42:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: Be nice :p
[2015-11-15 01:43:13] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: +1 hidden orders seem to make most of the actual book.
[2015-11-15 01:43:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Not sure about that but it certainly changes rapidly. Still accumulating a short position?
[2015-11-15 01:44:05] Murch : Yep, still shorting a little at a time.
[2015-11-15 01:44:08] sleger : just btce bitstamp bitfinex there is already 3k to 340
[2015-11-15 01:44:09] FreeForB : My comment was that we will move up. From what I have seen here the order book follows Finex more than any other exchange. If you have found something different you may be right.
[2015-11-15 01:45:06] FreeForB : Jumping on a move in China does not work here in my experience. Unless Finex follows you are wasting your time.
[2015-11-15 01:45:24] sleger : FreeForB: Well, then what you should have said is that ask is thinner than bid on bitfinex and since you believe this is an indicator there is more chance for the price to go up than down. But saying there is 1k btc to 340 was just plain wrong
[2015-11-15 01:46:57] FreeForB : The fact is it could be less. Orders get pulled as often as hidden ones pop up. I realize the order book is not the only indicator but should be taken into account with other factors.
[2015-11-15 01:48:48] sleger : maybe. But there is still not 1k to 240 ;)
[2015-11-15 01:51:43] messiaen8844 : bitstamp keeps bitstamping
[2015-11-15 01:55:34] messiaen8844 : cmon mr. fat fingers
[2015-11-15 01:55:39] messiaen8844 : let us pass @ 2140
[2015-11-15 01:55:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: haha
[2015-11-15 02:02:58] Murch : 2140 has aids?
[2015-11-15 02:05:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Appears so
[2015-11-15 02:05:30] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Still in consolidation for sure
[2015-11-15 02:10:01] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: yup, wish this bitch would just break already
[2015-11-15 02:10:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Me too. I don't even care what direction
[2015-11-15 02:10:29] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I mean, I'd rather it go up but I know how to short too
[2015-11-15 02:12:15] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: We both just want some fucking action
[2015-11-15 02:16:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I want some food too but I don't want to miss the action
[2015-11-15 02:23:09] TschavaTschigger : i'm going to bed... 3 am here
[2015-11-15 02:23:17] TschavaTschigger : cya tomorrow folks... happy trading meanwhile
[2015-11-15 02:23:40] Murch : TschavaTschigger: cya later bro
[2015-11-15 02:23:45] podizzler3k : later sweet dreams of +500%
[2015-11-15 02:23:49] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : TschavaTschigger: Cya man
[2015-11-15 02:24:19] messiaen8844 : lesson to be learned today: don't mess with mr. fat fingers @ 2140, just leave him alone
[2015-11-15 02:33:06] FreeForB : 7 trades in the last 90 mins. Everything is on edge waiting.
[2015-11-15 02:34:29] messiaen8844 : yep, it's TeaseCoin
[2015-11-15 02:43:17] kendang : what caused that big spike up?
[2015-11-15 02:43:55] messiaen8844 : look at bitstamp @ 30 min
[2015-11-15 02:43:59] messiaen8844 : it's called THE MIDDLE FINGER spike
[2015-11-15 02:45:08] messiaen8844 : since others don't want to party, BitStamp is having a party just for their own
[2015-11-15 02:54:52] FreeForB : china on the move a little bit
[2015-11-15 02:55:42] messiaen8844 : yep, watching it with attention
[2015-11-15 02:56:55] messiaen8844 : show time
[2015-11-15 02:57:11] messiaen8844 : let's see if they all move up in tandem
[2015-11-15 02:58:27] FreeForB : everyone on finex is worried about getting whipsawed again.
[2015-11-15 02:58:32] messiaen8844 : yep
[2015-11-15 02:59:16] messiaen8844 : mr 2140, the BUZZ KILLER
[2015-11-15 03:00:36] FreeForB : yes someone is defending that hard. i think we will push past
[2015-11-15 03:01:09] messiaen8844 : every time it gets there = wall of china
[2015-11-15 03:01:54] FreeForB : yeah i see that.
[2015-11-15 03:02:31] messiaen8844 : people buy and it keeps adding up
[2015-11-15 03:02:40] messiaen8844 : great struggle
[2015-11-15 03:03:07] messiaen8844 : people gave up selling, that's why no movement at all
[2015-11-15 03:13:59] FreeForB : trying again
[2015-11-15 03:15:36] messiaen8844 : well, orders keep moving
[2015-11-15 03:21:31] FreeForB : looks like 100% bot activity to me.
[2015-11-15 03:28:57] messiaen8844 : lol, bot-13 is back here
[2015-11-15 03:29:11] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Damn I missed the push up. Still positive on my position though so no biggie
[2015-11-15 03:29:43] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: Yep. I thought BitMEX_Sam rate limited it. Maybe it expired or connected a different way or something
[2015-11-15 03:59:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Watching the OKC bots fighting over the color of short timeframe candles for entertainment right now
[2015-11-15 04:14:05] podizzler3k : good time to set alarms and ignore
[2015-11-15 04:14:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : podizzler3k: For sure
[2015-11-15 04:14:29] podizzler3k : or check less often for people like us
[2015-11-15 04:21:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : podizzler3k: Haha yeah not sure I'm going to avoid checking every once in a while
[2015-11-15 04:23:53] laisee : battle of the 3s @ bitmex
[2015-11-15 04:34:33] Swedishnut : digital*
[2015-11-15 05:38:14] floopfloop : bears have awoke
[2015-11-15 05:39:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: Yep. Keep in mind we're still in a very tight range though. That was only a 0.3% drop and it's already bouncing hard
[2015-11-15 05:39:33] floopfloop : I made one tiny trade today
[2015-11-15 05:39:36] floopfloop : that was it
[2015-11-15 05:39:41] floopfloop : not touching this market
[2015-11-15 05:39:47] floopfloop : Ill wait for the weekend to be over
[2015-11-15 05:40:09] floopfloop : i just logged in in case this drop was serious
[2015-11-15 05:40:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: That's the right way to do it. I overtraded and lost my .07 in profit for the day but I still have a bit and I'll make a trade when there's a break out for sure
[2015-11-15 05:40:26] floopfloop : I think we are going to 300
[2015-11-15 05:40:33] floopfloop : i dont know when though so I dont want to trade 24h
[2015-11-15 05:41:04] floopfloop : wish I woulda sold more for fridat at 240
[2015-11-15 05:41:09] floopfloop : 340*
[2015-11-15 05:41:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: Yeah I was considering opening my breakout position on `XBT7D` instead of `XBT24H` so I don't have to run into settlement
[2015-11-15 05:41:28] floopfloop : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: whch way?
[2015-11-15 05:41:47] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: Not sure yet. Whatever way it breaks. It's looking bearish though for sure
[2015-11-15 05:42:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: Except it
[2015-11-15 05:42:22] floopfloop : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: yeah def. I dont want to take 335 on friday though
[2015-11-15 05:42:29] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *Except it's just China anyway, Finex and Stamp couldn't care less
[2015-11-15 05:42:50] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: Why not if it breaks down to 300?
[2015-11-15 05:43:12] floopfloop : well its kinda of a gamble
[2015-11-15 05:43:17] floopfloop : and i am comfortable with 340
[2015-11-15 05:43:35] floopfloop : even if price holds i can make profit
[2015-11-15 05:43:42] floopfloop : if it rises, i lose less
[2015-11-15 05:44:02] floopfloop : omg, we need to ban the 13 bot
[2015-11-15 05:44:33] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: I see. The 13 bot is just someone testing. Once the orderbook is grouped this coming week it won't matter
[2015-11-15 05:44:42] floopfloop : seriously, MM's should not be allowed unless they are serious
[2015-11-15 05:44:44] floopfloop : explain
[2015-11-15 05:45:20] floopfloop : if this goes lower I think im gonna go long a but on 24h
[2015-11-15 05:45:31] floopfloop : 333.27
[2015-11-15 05:46:04] floopfloop : haha, look at where we were a couple of das ago
[2015-11-15 05:46:05] floopfloop : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT30M
[2015-11-15 05:46:17] floopfloop : 2015-11-04 .XBT30M 471.52
[2015-11-15 05:46:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: I miss those prices :(
[2015-11-15 05:46:53] floopfloop : wish I had the btc in my account then
[2015-11-15 05:47:08] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Why would you long `XBT24H` and short `XBT7D`?
[2015-11-15 05:47:32] floopfloop : because I think it will drop on monday
[2015-11-15 05:47:38] floopfloop : and go up a couple bucks to 335 tonight
[2015-11-15 05:48:11] floopfloop : check out sells vs buys
[2015-11-15 05:48:20] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: Oh ok. I wasn't sure whether you were thinking short or long for this breakout
[2015-11-15 05:48:37] floopfloop : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: obv we are all long long term
[2015-11-15 05:48:50] floopfloop : but i think we go back to 300 test before that moonshot happens
[2015-11-15 05:49:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: Right, otherwise I wouldn't have cold storage. I'm very aware this could drop on breakout though
[2015-11-15 05:49:26] floopfloop : yeah 335 to 400+ not likely
[2015-11-15 05:49:31] floopfloop : too weird of numbers
[2015-11-15 05:49:37] floopfloop : 300 to 400 is more probable
[2015-11-15 05:49:49] floopfloop : which is fcking weird in its own right, but btc is weird
[2015-11-15 05:49:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: I just don't see the sentiment or oomph from the bulls needed to make a jump upward
[2015-11-15 05:50:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : But I'd love to be proven wrong
[2015-11-15 05:50:03] floopfloop : exactly
[2015-11-15 05:50:05] Swedishnut : POATO!
[2015-11-15 05:50:14] Swedishnut : nvm night
[2015-11-15 05:50:14] floopfloop : especially on the weekend
[2015-11-15 05:50:31] floopfloop : Swedishnut: where do you live?
[2015-11-15 05:50:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Somewhere not in the US lol
[2015-11-15 05:50:56] Swedishnut : Just a wee south of Ontario
[2015-11-15 05:51:04] floopfloop : oh, kk nm
[2015-11-15 05:51:09] laisee : mexico?
[2015-11-15 05:51:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : laisee: Hahaha
[2015-11-15 05:51:16] floopfloop : thought you might have lived near me and going to the casino
[2015-11-15 05:51:24] Swedishnut : Panama right ooo good sir :P
[2015-11-15 05:51:30] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Swedishnut: lol
[2015-11-15 05:51:40] laisee : panama for the pros
[2015-11-15 05:51:44] floopfloop : I need to take the Cleveland Browns to the super bowl
[2015-11-15 05:51:57] floopfloop : need to drop the Cosby kids off at the pool
[2015-11-15 05:52:05] Swedishnut : hopefully they do not prove to be a force to be reckoned with
[2015-11-15 05:52:34] floopfloop : they are. they need to prove nothing. Previous experience trumps and threat
[2015-11-15 05:52:36] floopfloop : any*
[2015-11-15 05:52:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: Sounds like you have money on this
[2015-11-15 05:53:40] floopfloop : well I used money to buy what I ate to deposit what I am about to deposit in the sewage system
[2015-11-15 05:54:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: Good to know. Talk to you in a few
[2015-11-15 05:54:23] floopfloop : sure, enjoy the tap water
[2015-11-15 06:06:42] laisee : testing 1,2,3 ...
[2015-11-15 06:10:41] abc123 : damn ronda rousey just got beat down
[2015-11-15 06:12:54] podizzler3000 : abc123 yessir https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/353ff34eFNUdkJpaUR1YllBcHhVVEVxYTVLUT09/r/394989/
[2015-11-15 06:12:56] podizzler3000 : worked out well for me
[2015-11-15 06:13:31] podizzler3000 : now i just have to wait for it to confirm so i can put it all on 100x
[2015-11-15 06:13:44] podizzler3000 : haha jk
[2015-11-15 06:13:54] abc123 : nice lol
[2015-11-15 06:15:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : podizzler3000: Wow, .3 into 10 BTC. Very nice
[2015-11-15 06:20:38] floopfloop : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: who? how?
[2015-11-15 06:21:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: podizzler3000, betting on 3 UFC fights on nitrogensports.eu
[2015-11-15 06:21:32] floopfloop : parlay
[2015-11-15 06:21:38] floopfloop : how much did you lose before you won lol
[2015-11-15 06:23:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : podizzler3000:
[2015-11-15 06:30:12] podizzler3000 : how much did i lose betting fights? or trying to ride btc swings? or buying altcoins? i have so many types of losses its hard to say
[2015-11-15 06:30:55] podizzler3000 : but tonight i am winner. just in time for the next btc dump to $99
[2015-11-15 06:31:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : podizzler3000: lol
[2015-11-15 06:31:50] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : podizzler3000: You think this is going to drop though
[2015-11-15 06:32:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *?
[2015-11-15 06:38:25] podizzler3000 : probably. 1.3M $ a day to support miner dumps is tough. although okcoin and huobi can foot the bill for a few months to keep it above $300 im not sure they will
[2015-11-15 06:38:59] podizzler3000 : at this point they can probably make more money dumping btc and liquidating longs.
[2015-11-15 06:39:05] podizzler3000 : thats assuming more chinese ponzi money doesnt come in
[2015-11-15 06:39:25] podizzler3000 : if it does then we could have more bubble action
[2015-11-15 06:43:50] podizzler3000 : the recent volume in china has been really crazy
[2015-11-15 06:44:03] podizzler3000 : since mid october
[2015-11-15 07:36:31] ethexio : These bots are annoying
[2015-11-15 07:37:15] ethexio : Gently caress them with a soft pillow
[2015-11-15 08:38:37] kendang : ethexio: is ethex.io your site?
[2015-11-15 09:00:23] kendang : can't wait until tomorrow when the market moves again!
[2015-11-15 09:06:23] laisee : Bitcoin is offline on weekends?
[2015-11-15 09:08:02] dorothy490 : laisee: CEO of bitcoin is on holidays
[2015-11-15 09:08:46] laisee : ok. maybe we can talk to him tomorrow.
[2015-11-15 09:08:51] TschavaTschigger : good morning guys!
[2015-11-15 09:08:57] kendang : laisee: nope, but no real movement here on bit
[2015-11-15 09:09:04] kendang : me
[2015-11-15 09:09:44] kendang : TschavaTschigger: good morning my austrian friend
[2015-11-15 09:09:54] laisee : maybe wwe need a chaosmonkey
[2015-11-15 10:00:29] wilmergreat : any mod here?
[2015-11-15 10:48:51] jung1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aybt-UZb4kk bitcoin documentary film made by russian 2nd biggest tv station (over 100mln viewers)
[2015-11-15 10:48:58] jung1 : really good!
[2015-11-15 10:49:06] jung1 : with en subtitles
[2015-11-15 11:24:51] messiaen8844 : man, still this bullshit
[2015-11-15 11:26:12] messiaen8844 : indeed nitrogen sports might be a better call now than bitcoin trading lol
[2015-11-15 11:26:25] jung1 : I have to do something if price stuck at 333
[2015-11-15 11:26:47] messiaen8844 : I made some money on easy bets in that, then never tried it again. I know when to stop ;)
[2015-11-15 11:34:04] habibi : jung1: i cant do much on 24h
[2015-11-15 11:49:45] jung1 : yeah
[2015-11-15 11:49:51] jung1 : not worth it
[2015-11-15 11:50:01] jung1 : but check eth margin on polo
[2015-11-15 11:50:13] jung1 : quite fun
[2015-11-15 11:50:37] habibi : what margin they use?
[2015-11-15 11:51:08] jung1 : 2,5
[2015-11-15 11:51:16] jung1 : x2.5
[2015-11-15 11:51:29] jung1 : but there are several altcoins
[2015-11-15 11:51:30] habibi : pretty safe but still eth can jump 50% one day without problems
[2015-11-15 11:51:40] jung1 : with quite nice volume
[2015-11-15 11:52:20] jung1 : margin on altcoin are pure gambling
[2015-11-15 11:52:25] jung1 : but fun
[2015-11-15 12:08:03] jung1 : 119448 buy
[2015-11-15 12:08:05] jung1 : nice
[2015-11-15 12:08:22] kendang : wow
[2015-11-15 12:09:08] jung1 : maybe its time for long
[2015-11-15 12:09:47] habibi : jung1: it was settlement
[2015-11-15 12:10:07] jung1 : ah
[2015-11-15 12:10:08] jung1 : yeah
[2015-11-15 12:10:17] jung1 : didnt noticed
[2015-11-15 12:10:34] TschavaTschigger : absolutely nothing going on... zero volatility and boring as fukk
[2015-11-15 12:10:58] kendang : TschavaTschigger: i feel your pain
[2015-11-15 12:11:19] jung1 : BITCOIN IS DEAD
[2015-11-15 12:11:37] TschavaTschigger : bitcoin is dead.. long live the blockchain
[2015-11-15 12:11:46] TschavaTschigger : we need blockchain futures
[2015-11-15 12:14:09] jung1 : check this out. https://nb.vu/ if its not scam could be great
[2015-11-15 12:17:22] kendang : jung1: sounds interesting. just signed up for their e-mail newsletter
[2015-11-15 12:34:44] j8 : looks a bit sketchy to me. they call themselves a bank and they're selling shares already
[2015-11-15 12:35:41] habibi : yea looks like another ico scam
[2015-11-15 12:36:46] jung1 : will see
[2015-11-15 12:36:52] jung1 : but Idea is pretty good
[2015-11-15 12:41:17] j8 : very doubtful that this will be a compliant operation with legit banking relationships
[2015-11-15 12:45:55] j8 : most places, you can't just call your tech startup a bank
[2015-11-15 12:46:54] jung1 : but if they will buy license
[2015-11-15 12:47:01] jung1 : would be quite legit
[2015-11-15 12:48:07] j8 : they are already selling unregistered securities, no?
[2015-11-15 12:49:16] jung1 : yeah I think so
[2015-11-15 12:49:26] jung1 : they need like 500k to buy basic license
[2015-11-15 12:52:22] j8 : they're based in a tropical island in the pacific, i just doubt that if they raise 500k that's what they'll be spending it on
[2015-11-15 12:57:07] j8 : there's lots of other startups trying to do what they're doing, but with VC money, insured deposits, based in US/EUR
[2015-11-15 13:00:19] jung1 : yep
[2015-11-15 13:00:33] jung1 : uphold (ex bitreserve) is one of my favourite
[2015-11-15 13:02:27] j8 : yeah i looked into that one a while back. do you use it?
[2015-11-15 13:03:08] jung1 : yes I checked it
[2015-11-15 13:03:16] jung1 : really usefull
[2015-11-15 13:03:30] jung1 : could be alternative for banking in future
[2015-11-15 13:03:55] jung1 : and it was smart move to change a name and not focus on bitcoin only