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[2015-11-10 22:09:51] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: nice. and tbh I dont know udde
[2015-11-10 22:09:54] floopfloop : dude*
[2015-11-10 22:09:58] zanza : I think this site should have a Windows Paperclip cartoon guide
[2015-11-10 22:10:05] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm. Well sorry about that, but it only turns off if you turn it off
[2015-11-10 22:10:06] zanza : so user friendly
[2015-11-10 22:10:16] BitMEX_Sam : zanza: So many April 1 ideas
[2015-11-10 22:10:20] zanza : :)
[2015-11-10 22:10:44] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: we had an idea for chat filter earlier in the day
[2015-11-10 22:10:51] floopfloop : as well as one yesterday
[2015-11-10 22:11:09] BitMEX_Sam : Hah yeah I saw.
[2015-11-10 22:11:26] floopfloop : I think that could be a great forum topic
[2015-11-10 22:11:38] BitMEX_Sam : A forum would be nice in general
[2015-11-10 22:11:45] BitMEX_Sam : I opened up https://www.reddit.com/r/bitmex
[2015-11-10 22:11:49] BitMEX_Sam : Decent substitute
[2015-11-10 22:12:53] habibi : new low
[2015-11-10 22:13:07] habibi : premium still, this will fall to 332 fast
[2015-11-10 22:13:23] floopfloop : habibi: see premium on March?
[2015-11-10 22:13:53] habibi : yea but still a lot of time to it
[2015-11-10 22:13:58] habibi : who knows
[2015-11-10 22:14:12] floopfloop : if it keeps falling thats easy money
[2015-11-10 22:14:29] zanza : in 136 days :)
[2015-11-10 22:14:29] Murch : real bounce coming after this
[2015-11-10 22:14:31] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Sam: like I said in the email man... lol I promise I'm really going to do my best to stop bugging you with massive emails from now on...
[2015-11-10 22:14:37] BitMEX_Sam : No worries
[2015-11-10 22:14:47] zanza : wall of texts?
[2015-11-10 22:15:21] AudibleScience : WTF is china doing to our coin!?!
[2015-11-10 22:15:31] floopfloop : that are about to buy
[2015-11-10 22:16:51] zanza : at least volume is back?
[2015-11-10 22:17:29] Murch : Going long here
[2015-11-10 22:17:34] zanza : Murch: gl
[2015-11-10 22:17:46] AudibleScience : Miners in China make a massive proportion of the coins... so why are they doing this to themselves?
[2015-11-10 22:18:02] Murch : zanza: Thanks, this seems like the final capitulation for now methinks
[2015-11-10 22:18:03] zanza : to lower the hast rate?
[2015-11-10 22:18:04] sleger : maybe they dont want to just be coin collectors
[2015-11-10 22:18:07] habibi : miners sells big part of mined coins constatnly to traders
[2015-11-10 22:18:11] habibi : so traders are doing this
[2015-11-10 22:18:14] Murch : uh oh, nvm then haha
[2015-11-10 22:18:49] AudibleScience : habibi: yeah... that is a recurring thought I keep having myself...
[2015-11-10 22:18:54] habibi : again new lows about to
[2015-11-10 22:19:43] Murch : still in my long, help a bro out China
[2015-11-10 22:20:56] AudibleScience : habibi: but how many miners are also traders and holders though that's another question?
[2015-11-10 22:21:00] cekseh : Satoshi just moved his coins
[2015-11-10 22:21:11] BitMEX_Sam : LTC on GOX?
[2015-11-10 22:21:11] habibi : cekseh: realy?
[2015-11-10 22:21:29] cekseh : Maybe, idk I'm not looking
[2015-11-10 22:21:31] BitMEX_Sam : if true, I give it a 99% change it's blockchain.info getting spoofed again
[2015-11-10 22:21:34] justinlooking : lol
[2015-11-10 22:21:38] floopfloop : cekseh: link?
[2015-11-10 22:21:51] Crypto Wealth : BitMEX_Sam: on GOX!!! Nice , I'm gonna buy while LTC is cheap and only $50!
[2015-11-10 22:21:52] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: so we need for comfirmation
[2015-11-10 22:21:53] floopfloop : cekseh: kys
[2015-11-10 22:21:55] AudibleScience : Murch: weren't you short?
[2015-11-10 22:22:03] Murch : AudibleScience: Nope, just went long
[2015-11-10 22:22:14] Murch : at 333.5
[2015-11-10 22:22:18] sleger : maybe we could have an ignore button on the chat for cekseh and co
[2015-11-10 22:22:25] floopfloop : Fuck Bitmex, I am moving my coins to Mt.Coins and okcoin
[2015-11-10 22:22:41] floopfloop : I found a filter!
[2015-11-10 22:22:50] habibi : /ignore s
[2015-11-10 22:22:59] habibi : i thought irc command would be usefull here
[2015-11-10 22:23:05] floopfloop : You should have a BTC scavenger hunt for filter words
[2015-11-10 22:23:06] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, no such commands
[2015-11-10 22:23:30] justinlooking : scunthorpe
[2015-11-10 22:23:33] AudibleScience : Murch: yeah but you rode it all the way down to here with a nice short no? I thought you did exactly what I was going to do?
[2015-11-10 22:23:47] Murch : AudibleScience: Yeah I've been shorting on the way down.
[2015-11-10 22:24:01] Murch : AudibleScience: Got like 30 dollars of movement on my shorts :D
[2015-11-10 22:24:12] AudibleScience : Murch: Nice one man!!!
[2015-11-10 22:24:22] floopfloop : Murch: a lap dance??
[2015-11-10 22:24:31] Murch : Thanks dude, nice job to you too if you rode that down short.
[2015-11-10 22:24:36] floopfloop : Murch: "$30 of movement on my shorts"
[2015-11-10 22:24:50] Murch : floopfloop: lololol
[2015-11-10 22:24:59] habibi : 1000%?
[2015-11-10 22:25:31] Murch : closed that long
[2015-11-10 22:26:14] AudibleScience : Murch: I didn't this time man! I was going to... but couldn't...
[2015-11-10 22:26:15] cekseh : china pushing down still
[2015-11-10 22:26:27] Murch : AudibleScience: shiiit, just close it on 332
[2015-11-10 22:26:32] Murch : err
[2015-11-10 22:26:35] habibi : new low
[2015-11-10 22:26:39] habibi : we going under 2100
[2015-11-10 22:26:46] habibi : probally
[2015-11-10 22:26:58] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: When you get a chance, can you re-enable my trade window one more time. I promise I wont be such a klutz
[2015-11-10 22:27:20] AudibleScience : Murch: I'm out for today... right back to ) again! :(
[2015-11-10 22:27:31] gustavo7 : all aboard to 2100/320, give it 30mins
[2015-11-10 22:27:39] Murch : AudibleScience: damn that's frustrating man, I'm sorry :(
[2015-11-10 22:28:01] BitMEX_Sam : floopfloop: You're taken care of, please refresh
[2015-11-10 22:28:09] SnackyCoins : the path to becoming a good trader is paved with devastating losses
[2015-11-10 22:28:26] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: thanks and sorry about that
[2015-11-10 22:28:36] BitMEX_Sam : nw, it really should be configurable
[2015-11-10 22:28:56] Murch : long at 332 hopefully this time it works
[2015-11-10 22:29:01] Murch : 3rd time's the charm
[2015-11-10 22:30:03] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: yes, also from a usability point of view (thinking Norman here) the do not show here shouldnt be by a button people will frantically click
[2015-11-10 22:30:08] SnackyCoins : Murch: http://i.imgur.com/zlcvnTF.jpg
[2015-11-10 22:30:15] BitMEX_Sam : True
[2015-11-10 22:30:19] Murch : SnackyCoins: loool
[2015-11-10 22:30:30] cekseh : okc is 58% long 29% short
[2015-11-10 22:30:30] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: not making excuses for me though lol.
[2015-11-10 22:30:56] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: is XBT7D using the same new markPrice algorithm as the XBT24H?
[2015-11-10 22:31:02] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Yes
[2015-11-10 22:31:14] micmix : thanks
[2015-11-10 22:31:16] floopfloop : cekseh: how can you tell that
[2015-11-10 22:31:17] AudibleScience : Murch: best of luck man! I would be long too right now if I had equity in the account...
[2015-11-10 22:31:36] cekseh : okc com /future/futureTop.do?type=1&symbol=0
[2015-11-10 22:31:41] SnackyCoins : ^
[2015-11-10 22:31:50] SnackyCoins : EVERYONE is long
[2015-11-10 22:31:54] Murch : AudibleScience: oh god, I feel your pain dude, lost 95% of the account the other week
[2015-11-10 22:32:21] floopfloop : cekseh: bit.ly helps lol
[2015-11-10 22:32:52] SnackyCoins : https://goo.gl/TpmEac
[2015-11-10 22:32:59] cekseh : or you can type in the chippers real name
[2015-11-10 22:33:16] SnackyCoins : i have a shortlink premade lol
[2015-11-10 22:33:18] gustavo7 : site times out for me lol
[2015-11-10 22:33:19] floopfloop : okcoin
[2015-11-10 22:33:26] AudibleScience : if everyone is long right now... okcoin may just live up to its name... it's not called okcoin for nothing!
[2015-11-10 22:33:33] AudibleScience : lol lol lol
[2015-11-10 22:33:36] floopfloop : okcoin : coming out this halloween
[2015-11-10 22:33:40] SnackyCoins : everyone long? going down
[2015-11-10 22:34:14] Murch : I think bearish momentum ran out
[2015-11-10 22:34:20] Murch : Bulls taking back control for now.
[2015-11-10 22:34:27] habibi : Murch: why u think that?
[2015-11-10 22:34:45] cekseh : I think there are twice as many people long as there are short
[2015-11-10 22:35:00] Murch : habibi: On the last attempt for price to properly push down, it only made it a few more dollars past the low.
[2015-11-10 22:36:08] SnackyCoins : murch https://goo.gl/TpmEac
[2015-11-10 22:36:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: There's your extra drop Murch :)
[2015-11-10 22:36:17] SnackyCoins : so you see how much bull margin has been used up?
[2015-11-10 22:36:33] SnackyCoins : do you see how very little bearfuel has been used?
[2015-11-10 22:36:49] Murch : SnackyCoins: you clearly haven't seen that page before today
[2015-11-10 22:36:52] SnackyCoins : the bulls are shooting their load every dip and we are still dropping
[2015-11-10 22:36:57] Murch : That always happens during fast movements
[2015-11-10 22:37:07] SnackyCoins : i think you are reading it upside down.
[2015-11-10 22:37:10] Murch : The opposite happens when the price has gone up a lot, because people are closing their longs
[2015-11-10 22:37:19] Murch : therefore the short margin amount increases on average
[2015-11-10 22:37:22] Murch : the opposite happened here
[2015-11-10 22:37:28] Murch : the price went down so shorts covered
[2015-11-10 22:37:30] habibi : dont arque, time will show the right way
[2015-11-10 22:37:33] SnackyCoins : ok you do what you want lol
[2015-11-10 22:37:37] habibi : i mean dont fight nasty here :p
[2015-11-10 22:37:44] Murch : SnackyCoins: k
[2015-11-10 22:38:28] SnackyCoins : lol i've been refreshing that page every 5 minutes since 3 weeks ago now 8)
[2015-11-10 22:38:35] SnackyCoins : and tripled my btc
[2015-11-10 22:38:56] gustavo7 : oh thats just charming of ID-10T
[2015-11-10 22:39:25] Murch : If you've been watching it for that long you'd understand why long margin increases when the price is crashing.
[2015-11-10 22:39:42] SnackyCoins : duh, it has a natural wave to it
[2015-11-10 22:39:47] SnackyCoins : shorts up on ups, longs up on down
[2015-11-10 22:40:00] SnackyCoins : but we're WAY out of whack on longs
[2015-11-10 22:40:06] Murch : wrong, that's only half the explanation
[2015-11-10 22:40:24] Murch : you're forgetting about the longs that close on up and the shorts that close on down.
[2015-11-10 22:40:32] SnackyCoins : it has the same effect
[2015-11-10 22:40:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : @Murch @SnackyCoins I'm curious, what makes you believe this data from OKCoin is real if their other data isn't? ;)
[2015-11-10 22:41:02] cekseh : And the longs that close on down, and the shorts that stop on up
[2015-11-10 22:41:13] SnackyCoins : it might not be but i am trading it like a pro ;)
[2015-11-10 22:41:17] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: the data isn't really that useful in deciding imo anyway. I've watched it a lot before.
[2015-11-10 22:41:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I was just kidding mostly :)
[2015-11-10 22:41:41] Murch : And I'm not saying the price definitely goes up here, just explaining why the margin is shifting like that
[2015-11-10 22:41:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Although I would be suspicious of anything from that site
[2015-11-10 22:41:52] TschavaTschigger : hopefully tomorrow we have <300
[2015-11-10 22:41:56] TschavaTschigger : < 300
[2015-11-10 22:42:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I think the price goes up here too. We dropped 14% in the past 10 hours with no retrace
[2015-11-10 22:42:28] SnackyCoins : the whole way up, every time shorts hit >50% we went to the moon
[2015-11-10 22:42:32] habibi : anyway if yes i would expect last correction of downtrend
[2015-11-10 22:43:33] SnackyCoins : we move towards whatever direction will fuck the most money out of the market. pretty ez
[2015-11-10 22:43:41] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: It's less of a bounce than I would have liked so maybe it's still got a bit more room down, but I think the worst of it is over at least.
[2015-11-10 22:43:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I sure hope so haha
[2015-11-10 22:44:15] SnackyCoins : we won't stop going down until people stop buying the dip imo
[2015-11-10 22:44:16] Murch : Yep had to cover there since I need to go do some work now
[2015-11-10 22:44:36] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I need to as well but this is too addicting haha
[2015-11-10 22:44:51] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Going to cut myself off soon
[2015-11-10 22:45:17] floopfloop : if I only had more Margin.....i would sell March into liquidation
[2015-11-10 22:45:35] floopfloop : $20 premium
[2015-11-10 22:45:48] SnackyCoins : imo we're in for more highs... later, after we've shaken out everyone who came to market at 500
[2015-11-10 22:46:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: I don't find that too high really
[2015-11-10 22:46:19] BitMEX_Sam : Definitely heavy premium on XBTH16, liquidity is rough though
[2015-11-10 22:46:41] floopfloop : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: maybe, but its crazy easy to flip it for a couple bucks
[2015-11-10 22:46:59] floopfloop : im gonna have to buy some more btc tomorrow
[2015-11-10 22:47:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: How do you do that if there's no liquidity
[2015-11-10 22:47:04] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : ?
[2015-11-10 22:47:06] Murch : floopfloop: not really, I've been having trouble closing my order there for the past day
[2015-11-10 22:48:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : New lows
[2015-11-10 22:48:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : :|
[2015-11-10 22:48:12] macios15 : Murch: how's youur long
[2015-11-10 22:48:21] Murch : macios15: closed it a while back
[2015-11-10 22:48:27] SnackyCoins : ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-11-10 22:48:35] Murch : made a small profit
[2015-11-10 22:48:42] habibi : bad stiff
[2015-11-10 22:48:43] habibi : 2000
[2015-11-10 22:48:44] habibi : incom
[2015-11-10 22:48:47] macios15 : dump just geting started, 12h going to crash
[2015-11-10 22:49:43] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Yep
[2015-11-10 22:49:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : macios15: The 12h is already down 13%!
[2015-11-10 22:50:05] Murch : Wish I could sit here and watch but I really gotta run. I'll catch you guys later
[2015-11-10 22:50:06] macios15 : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: im talking about 12h ema
[2015-11-10 22:50:20] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : macios15: Ohhh
[2015-11-10 22:50:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Cya @Murch
[2015-11-10 22:51:15] habibi : Murch: see u later man
[2015-11-10 22:51:32] gustavo7 : few minutes for me too
[2015-11-10 22:53:49] habibi : thats a really nice retrace
[2015-11-10 22:54:21] stf28 : habibi: 120% it seems to start bouncing let's push it further ^^
[2015-11-10 22:59:03] cataquil : hello, how is liquidation price set?
[2015-11-10 22:59:07] cataquil : I want a wider stop
[2015-11-10 22:59:25] cekseh : building long from ~230, ya'll have permission to pump
[2015-11-10 22:59:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cekseh: Haha me too. Let's go!
[2015-11-10 22:59:59] habibi : permsion granted already
[2015-11-10 23:00:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: Yay!
[2015-11-10 23:00:25] floopfloop : Why am I such a pussy trader?
[2015-11-10 23:01:21] irbbqu : Because that's what the MM want you to be
[2015-11-10 23:01:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : irbbqu: lol
[2015-11-10 23:02:00] floopfloop : I mean....I made money
[2015-11-10 23:02:02] floopfloop : but shiiiiii could have made a lot more
[2015-11-10 23:02:54] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: what BVOL indexes are active? I see .BVOL24H, anything else?
[2015-11-10 23:03:28] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: The ones listed in the indices on the sidebar, see Contract Specifications
[2015-11-10 23:03:58] cekseh : Keep buying pls, gotta squeeze them shorts
[2015-11-10 23:04:25] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: When was the BVOL market stopped?
[2015-11-10 23:04:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cekseh: I think that pump is over temporarily
[2015-11-10 23:04:43] micmix : BitMEX_Sam, I see, thanks. Any plans to activate others like .BVOL30M?
[2015-11-10 23:05:23] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: I believe those are still ticking, we just don't expose them on the frontend
[2015-11-10 23:05:28] BitMEX_Sam : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: About 2 months ago
[2015-11-10 23:05:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: Not enough traders?
[2015-11-10 23:05:47] cataquil : hello bitmex, how does my liquidation price get set. I got closed early, can I change it the account says I have lots of margin. not sure why the stoploss is set automatically so close
[2015-11-10 23:05:50] BitMEX_Sam : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Essentially. It's very difficult to market make
[2015-11-10 23:06:11] BitMEX_Sam : cataquil: It's not a stoploss, it's liquidation - see my response to your ticket
[2015-11-10 23:06:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: I can imagine. I like the concept though
[2015-11-10 23:06:16] floopfloop : cataquil: the isolate amrgin box on the right
[2015-11-10 23:06:27] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: I don't get any data for .BVOL30M from the API: https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/trade?symbol=.BVOL30M&reverse=true
[2015-11-10 23:07:10] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Okay - yeah, .BVOL24H and 7D should be what you want
[2015-11-10 23:07:11] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: duuuuude do you like GITS?
[2015-11-10 23:07:23] BitMEX_Sam : GITS?
[2015-11-10 23:07:40] floopfloop : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5g1xubyuVs
[2015-11-10 23:07:44] floopfloop : Ghost in the Shell
[2015-11-10 23:07:46] BitMEX_Sam : Oh
[2015-11-10 23:07:59] floopfloop : New movie?^^
[2015-11-10 23:08:00] BitMEX_Sam : I remember you chatting about that earlier. Never watched it much. Especially not now - no time
[2015-11-10 23:08:32] BitMEX_Sam : Be back in a bit, relocating
[2015-11-10 23:08:38] floopfloop : I was coming home and saw it oustide a theater and i was like WTF?!?!?!
[2015-11-10 23:09:34] cataquil : how do I close my position?
[2015-11-10 23:09:57] sleger : just close the browser
[2015-11-10 23:10:05] sleger : your position will be gone
[2015-11-10 23:10:09] cekseh : lol.
[2015-11-10 23:10:10] floopfloop : cataquil: alt + f4
[2015-11-10 23:10:25] sleger : windozz berk
[2015-11-10 23:10:28] cataquil : your a comedian, congrats
[2015-11-10 23:10:36] floopfloop : cataquil: you're*
[2015-11-10 23:10:39] sleger : you're
[2015-11-10 23:10:44] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: u could add a tutorial that anyone need to pass on testnet before going here :p
[2015-11-10 23:10:45] floopfloop : sleger: beat ya to it
[2015-11-10 23:10:54] floopfloop : habibi: ROFLROFLROFL
[2015-11-10 23:11:21] cataquil : usually trading platform have a close position button
[2015-11-10 23:11:46] sleger : cataquil:if you do jump out of a plane one day I hope you ask how to open the parachute BEFORE you are out of the plane
[2015-11-10 23:12:03] floopfloop : sleger: +2
[2015-11-10 23:12:19] gustavo7 : welp level seems stable so far
[2015-11-10 23:12:24] cataquil : well sleger I just funded a small account and it turned out it used more leverage that I thought
[2015-11-10 23:12:30] cataquil : there is no demo platform
[2015-11-10 23:12:34] SnackyCoins : yes there is
[2015-11-10 23:12:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : That's a nice 1 minute pennant you've drawn there woodchipper
[2015-11-10 23:12:40] SnackyCoins : testnet.bitmex.com
[2015-11-10 23:12:41] cataquil : the documentation is not clear
[2015-11-10 23:12:51] SnackyCoins : by the way there are two close buttons
[2015-11-10 23:12:54] cataquil : I have traded futures, forex for 9 years
[2015-11-10 23:12:54] habibi : next time first ask then shoot
[2015-11-10 23:12:55] SnackyCoins : close limit and close market
[2015-11-10 23:13:07] cataquil : I didn't expect the platform to be so unintuitive
[2015-11-10 23:13:17] cekseh : I call bs
[2015-11-10 23:13:21] floopfloop : cataquil: rofl.
[2015-11-10 23:13:21] cataquil : I entered a small amount but it turns out to be too much leverage
[2015-11-10 23:13:26] habibi : cataquil: dont blame so bad on this platform !;p
[2015-11-10 23:13:27] sleger : cataquil: the documentation is the best I have seen so far around
[2015-11-10 23:13:32] cataquil : the liquidation price was too close
[2015-11-10 23:13:33] floopfloop : cataquil: have you tried okcoin?
[2015-11-10 23:13:38] sleger : cataquil: to close just open the other way around
[2015-11-10 23:13:41] cataquil : so I want to get out some
[2015-11-10 23:13:52] cataquil : thanks you!
[2015-11-10 23:13:55] sleger : place a limit order against your existing position it will close
[2015-11-10 23:13:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cataquil: You might be on isolated margin
[2015-11-10 23:14:02] floopfloop : cataquil: read the guides
[2015-11-10 23:14:14] floopfloop : alt+f4 is the shortcut to get to the guides
[2015-11-10 23:14:33] sleger : floopfloop: maybe he is lucky and doesnt have shitty OS like you
[2015-11-10 23:14:45] SnackyCoins : you can limit out the other way until you are flat. you know, exactly like any other broker
[2015-11-10 23:14:54] floopfloop : sleger: don't make fun of my mac gaming pc brah
[2015-11-10 23:15:31] sleger : SnackyCoins: few btc exchanges actually open a position the other way instead of closing
[2015-11-10 23:15:40] SnackyCoins : a few of them yes
[2015-11-10 23:15:44] SnackyCoins : but that is exclusive to BTC-land
[2015-11-10 23:16:03] cataquil : I had no time to read, price hit the point I was waiting for...
[2015-11-10 23:16:28] floopfloop : you waxing your modem, tryin to make it go faster! @cataquil
[2015-11-10 23:16:35] floopfloop : cataquil: what kind of chip you got in there, a dorrito?
[2015-11-10 23:16:37] cekseh : cataquil, don't throw away your money doing things you don't understand. Take your time
[2015-11-10 23:16:55] SnackyCoins : 9 years futures trader and you FOMO'd?
[2015-11-10 23:17:00] floopfloop : cataquil: yes, get off of bitmex and go to the strip club
[2015-11-10 23:17:13] cekseh : fomo'd without understanding what the buttons he's clicking on will do
[2015-11-10 23:20:32] floopfloop : best song ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMvS1Q1sos
[2015-11-10 23:23:19] floopfloop : That should be the Bitmex theme song TBH
[2015-11-10 23:23:24] cataquil : SnackyCoins I didn't FOMO, I waited for a pullback from 500
[2015-11-10 23:23:25] floopfloop : They even talk about the trollbox
[2015-11-10 23:23:27] cataquil : diphead
[2015-11-10 23:24:16] habibi : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ku1A5Ox8U i like this one
[2015-11-10 23:25:15] floopfloop : My new computers got the clocks it rocks but it was obsolete before I opened the box
[2015-11-10 23:25:43] floopfloop : Got a flat screen monitor 40 inches wide, I believe yours says Etch a Sketch on the side
[2015-11-10 23:25:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : lol
[2015-11-10 23:26:22] floopfloop : habibi: wow lol
[2015-11-10 23:26:30] cataquil : Sorry to disrupt your youtube link posting, but I had to pull the trigger before I had time to think or read all the docs, at least it wasn't a gun.
[2015-11-10 23:26:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I should have loaded up even more at 332. Just don't like going over 10% with my leverage
[2015-11-10 23:26:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *10x
[2015-11-10 23:26:42] cataquil : I did load up
[2015-11-10 23:26:47] cataquil : I am in a 330
[2015-11-10 23:26:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cataquil: Nice
[2015-11-10 23:27:00] cataquil : after being liquidated I reentered
[2015-11-10 23:27:13] cataquil : ah a nice person
[2015-11-10 23:27:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cataquil: Ouch. Good for you for sticking with it though. I got rid of my position temporarily. Waiting to see if this breaks upward more
[2015-11-10 23:27:50] cataquil : knowing which buttons to press is worthless unless you know when to press them
[2015-11-10 23:27:59] floopfloop : cataquil: thats what she said?
[2015-11-10 23:28:23] floopfloop : that was for the comment above but i guess that works too
[2015-11-10 23:28:28] laisee : larf ...
[2015-11-10 23:28:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: hahaha
[2015-11-10 23:28:41] cataquil : 8) ok we are happy
[2015-11-10 23:28:47] floopfloop : "after being liquidated I reentered"
[2015-11-10 23:29:38] cataquil : and yes I was silly due to not understanding the leverage here
[2015-11-10 23:29:53] zanza : waas that the floor?
[2015-11-10 23:30:19] cataquil : yup I got in a bit early the entered in XBTZ15
[2015-11-10 23:30:27] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: It was support anyway
[2015-11-10 23:30:38] cataquil : 55% fib of th rally
[2015-11-10 23:30:41] cataquil : 66
[2015-11-10 23:31:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cataquil: What are either of those fibs? Never heard of them before?
[2015-11-10 23:31:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *.
[2015-11-10 23:31:28] habibi : i am pretty sleepy
[2015-11-10 23:31:38] floopfloop : habibi: do drugs
[2015-11-10 23:31:43] habibi : guys lets have sideway now for few hours, are u with me?
[2015-11-10 23:32:34] habibi : floopfloop: nah, dont want any salt/meth etc
[2015-11-10 23:32:58] floopfloop : habibi: lies
[2015-11-10 23:33:08] laisee : he means MILO
[2015-11-10 23:34:18] cataquil : ah well fibs I know, quanto contracts, isolated margin, not so much
[2015-11-10 23:35:52] laisee : with extra hot MILK
[2015-11-10 23:35:53] cataquil : Ah thats it I took off isolated margin, now I got plenty, why is that on by default
[2015-11-10 23:36:29] cekseh : Probably to keep people who don't understand the engine from nuking their account on their first trade
[2015-11-10 23:38:03] stf28 : cekseh: very probable
[2015-11-10 23:44:05] sleger : cataquil: I asked them to not have it by default as well, they said other people asked for it to be on by default
[2015-11-10 23:44:28] floopfloop : read the guides
[2015-11-10 23:45:25] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : They're planning to make it so you can change the initial leverage on isolate mode so it's not so sketchy when you first open a trade
[2015-11-10 23:46:32] cataquil : I am reading
[2015-11-10 23:55:00] habibi : good night guys, good luck
[2015-11-10 23:55:38] gustavo7 : good night :]
[2015-11-11 00:01:59] cataquil : did the XBT24H just rollover?
[2015-11-11 00:02:22] sleger : yes almost
[2015-11-11 00:02:41] sleger : just 12 hours ago, or... in 12 hours. Basically, you couldnt further off from the truth
[2015-11-11 00:03:01] floopfloop : sleger: rofl
[2015-11-11 00:03:13] cataquil : my blotter still shows my trade
[2015-11-11 00:03:13] sleger : best timing ever
[2015-11-11 00:03:55] floopfloop : and the trader of the month award goes to.......
[2015-11-11 00:05:41] sleger : be nice, he said he's only been trading futures for 9 hours
[2015-11-11 00:07:01] cataquil : Support says that it would be closed as does the contract spec.
[2015-11-11 00:07:15] sleger : lol
[2015-11-11 00:07:22] cataquil : 1 hour on this platform.
[2015-11-11 00:07:28] sleger : 19:02 - sleger: just 12 hours ago, or... in 12 hours. Basically, you couldnt further off from the truth
[2015-11-11 00:08:10] laisee : maybe his clock is stuck
[2015-11-11 00:08:12] sleger : "Contract Details: XBT24H Expiry: in 12 hours"
[2015-11-11 00:09:31] gustavo7 : 12g for me too
[2015-11-11 00:09:33] sleger : please let me know when you're ready to trade, I so want to take the other side !
[2015-11-11 00:09:56] cataquil : doh, I am breaindead today, thought it was 00:00 UTC
[2015-11-11 00:10:09] cataquil : I am long from 330
[2015-11-11 00:16:31] sleger : Perfect, I save myself 10 points then !
[2015-11-11 00:18:18] laisee : cataquil> you can run auction 4 ur lucky coins
[2015-11-11 00:18:24] BitMEX_Sam : cataquil: See the countdown in the top right
[2015-11-11 00:23:17] cataquil : Let me know when I can short your ego sleger, and laisee you can go auction your sarcasm
[2015-11-11 00:23:31] BitMEX_Sam : Ah, good luck getting a good price on that
[2015-11-11 00:24:39] sleger : cataquil: Ok, let's do a trade at mid market, worth 10btc, you choose the side, on 24H
[2015-11-11 00:26:46] trader1000 : Having a small bet?
[2015-11-11 00:30:31] sleger : just trying to make him put his money where his mouth it
[2015-11-11 00:30:34] sleger : *is
[2015-11-11 00:30:37] toto_ : hey bitmex
[2015-11-11 00:30:54] BitMEX_Sam : FYI if you noticed that the chat list wasn't staying at the bottom properly while typing, that's now fixed
[2015-11-11 00:30:56] BitMEX_Sam : Minor annoyance
[2015-11-11 00:31:00] BitMEX_Sam : Hey toto_
[2015-11-11 00:31:25] toto_ : what will happen if the 12 hours has been passed in x100 long, im in profit, and i didnt close it yet
[2015-11-11 00:31:41] TschavaTschigger : tradeblocks index just uses the btc/usd from okcoin right? doesn't make much sense since most of their volume is btc/cny
[2015-11-11 00:31:45] sleger : you will profit
[2015-11-11 00:31:52] toto_ : i will stay in a long?
[2015-11-11 00:31:56] sleger : no
[2015-11-11 00:32:05] toto_ : or it closes automatically
[2015-11-11 00:32:30] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: Yeah, so usually it's weighted rather small
[2015-11-11 00:32:40] BitMEX_Sam : toto_: It will close automatically at the index price
[2015-11-11 00:32:40] toto_ : ?
[2015-11-11 00:32:48] toto_ : thnx
[2015-11-11 00:33:21] BitMEX_Sam : See https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/XBT
[2015-11-11 00:43:25] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: Thank you for adding order info to the cancel reply, very useful!
[2015-11-11 00:43:39] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: :) You're quick
[2015-11-11 00:44:18] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: I have a break point in that place and the test was running :-)
[2015-11-11 00:47:04] sleger : micmix: do you get a lot of WS disconnect ?
[2015-11-11 00:48:26] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: How does the reply look like for batch cancel when one order was already canceled/filled?
[2015-11-11 00:48:41] BitMEX_Sam : You'll get the whole order back, but with an `error` attribute
[2015-11-11 00:48:43] BitMEX_Sam : Look for that
[2015-11-11 00:50:13] micmix : sleger: it depends, usually one in 2-3 hours but I'm just testing from my dev computer, the bot is not hosted on the server yet
[2015-11-11 00:50:24] TschavaTschigger : since I got deleted from facebook this is my only community here... is that sad?
[2015-11-11 00:50:32] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: got it, thanks
[2015-11-11 00:51:04] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: we need profile pics, a wall and being able to add friends
[2015-11-11 00:51:21] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: Hah, you're in the wrong place for that
[2015-11-11 00:51:26] TschavaTschigger : www.bitbook.com
[2015-11-11 01:07:43] laisee : how does anyone get deleted from FB?
[2015-11-11 01:10:39] sleger : send me your login/password I will show you
[2015-11-11 01:21:42] sleger : I have a problem, my algo works too well, so I dont know what to do
[2015-11-11 01:23:47] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: Lucky you
[2015-11-11 01:25:02] micmix : sleger: Give it all your life savings to trade :-)
[2015-11-11 01:25:07] sleger : Ok, I'm mostly teasing, whoelse on the chat here is running bots
[2015-11-11 01:25:28] sleger : micmix: It is managing about 50btc, started from 4btc
[2015-11-11 01:26:01] sleger : fortunately for me, it is far from my life savings, I would never gamble that away ...
[2015-11-11 01:26:02] micmix : sleger: not bad, when did you start running it?
[2015-11-11 01:26:10] sleger : micmix: 1 month ago
[2015-11-11 01:26:27] sleger : by the way, you did not answer me do you get a lot of WS disconnects ?
[2015-11-11 01:26:33] laisee : nice return.
[2015-11-11 01:26:50] sleger : 1 negative day in a month
[2015-11-11 01:27:12] AbuAli : sleger: what bot u use ?
[2015-11-11 01:27:23] sleger : robocop
[2015-11-11 01:27:26] micmix : sleger: I answered, you must have missed it. It depends, usually one in 2-3 hours but I'm just testing from my dev computer, the bot is not hosted on the server yet
[2015-11-11 01:27:26] laisee : what language did u code it in?
[2015-11-11 01:27:52] BitMEX_Sam : Expect WS disconnects to come and go, we don't yet have a zero-downtime deployment solution for websocket
[2015-11-11 01:27:58] sleger : micmix: sorry must have missed, it, yes I do get disconnects here quite often, and sometimes harder to reconnect than other places
[2015-11-11 01:28:01] BitMEX_Sam : I'll keep you updated on that if we get something in place
[2015-11-11 01:28:14] sleger : laisee: most of it is in python, some parts in c++
[2015-11-11 01:29:02] laisee : some need for speed? using c++
[2015-11-11 01:29:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: Market maker or does it pick a side?
[2015-11-11 01:29:25] AbuAli : sleger: can i buy ur bot ?
[2015-11-11 01:29:32] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: i thought i had a safeproof way of reconnecting, it works for most exchanges but somehow yesterday i lost it until i killed and restarted
[2015-11-11 01:29:37] sleger : AbuAli: no
[2015-11-11 01:29:49] AbuAli : sleger: free :P ?
[2015-11-11 01:29:51] sleger : laisee: some part was already existing
[2015-11-11 01:30:40] sleger : just started testing it live here, made 70$ in 4 hrs
[2015-11-11 01:31:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: What style is it? Market maker?
[2015-11-11 01:31:18] sleger : yes, but with a bias
[2015-11-11 01:31:21] laisee : using BTC signals or looking a order books?
[2015-11-11 01:31:33] sleger : posting 500 orders now, 300 before
[2015-11-11 01:31:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: Why don't you tell us your whole strategy because you love us? ;)
[2015-11-11 01:31:58] micmix : sleger, BitMEX_Sam: I never had problems detecting disconnect or reconnecting. I'm using frequent heartbeats and drop connection manually right away if needed
[2015-11-11 01:31:59] sleger : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: i would love to
[2015-11-11 01:32:03] laisee : yes, we pomise not to tell anyone
[2015-11-11 01:32:06] AbuAli : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: why dont he just sell the bot :D
[2015-11-11 01:32:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : laisee: lol
[2015-11-11 01:32:07] sleger : but dont want to spam the chat box
[2015-11-11 01:32:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: You're serious? :p
[2015-11-11 01:32:30] sleger : micmix: thanks, yes i need to dig into what happened yesterday
[2015-11-11 01:33:04] sleger : AbuAli: if someone wants to sell you a bot, my best advise ever:
[2015-11-11 01:33:05] sleger : dont buy it
[2015-11-11 01:33:49] laisee : ... don't find a fat duck in middle of busy street ... as they say
[2015-11-11 01:34:16] AbuAli : umm
[2015-11-11 01:34:20] sleger : yes, I'l sell you my bot when I know it doesnt work anymore
[2015-11-11 01:34:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: Solid advice. If somebody's strategy is making them money they're not going to sell it
[2015-11-11 01:34:41] AbuAli : you can sell the code but not the algo ?
[2015-11-11 01:35:03] sleger : I have 4 digit btc holdings so if I need to I can put more in the bot rather than sell it
[2015-11-11 01:35:14] sleger : AbuAli: what's the difference ?
[2015-11-11 01:35:42] AbuAli : sleger: so i dont have to code from scratch lol
[2015-11-11 01:36:10] sleger : I'll help you get started of course...
[2015-11-11 01:36:17] AbuAli : the python MM sucks :S
[2015-11-11 01:36:33] laisee : \Abu> can find many algo famewoks on gitthub
[2015-11-11 01:36:45] laisee : feeeeee ...
[2015-11-11 01:37:03] sleger : int main(int argc,char *argv[]){
[2015-11-11 01:37:06] sleger : there you go
[2015-11-11 01:37:46] AbuAli : sleger: lol haahaha
[2015-11-11 01:38:05] laisee : add one line ... import andom.
[2015-11-11 01:38:07] sleger : AbuAli: the MM sample code is actually very nicely written I found
[2015-11-11 01:38:10] micmix : No one will sell you good working algo, it just doesn't make any financial sense. When algo is public it will stop working very soon, someone will take advantage of it. We have an algo called buldozer that's designed to take advantage of naive market makers, you can see it on OKC sometimes
[2015-11-11 01:39:04] AbuAli : i understand
[2015-11-11 01:40:12] sleger : micmix: did you say who you work for ?
[2015-11-11 01:40:36] micmix : sleger: nope
[2015-11-11 01:40:57] sleger : ok no worries, are you an employee or independant devcontractor
[2015-11-11 01:41:20] laisee : Abu> just study market, find some pattern and code for that. don't copy other algo code u dont understand
[2015-11-11 01:41:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I wonder if it would be possible to make a bulldozer for BitMEX's MM sample
[2015-11-11 01:41:57] gustavo7 : i threw away my daily profits to sell out my long at the top an hour ago, so angry
[2015-11-11 01:42:18] micmix : sleger: let just say I'm a system guy in a small trading group
[2015-11-11 01:42:25] sleger : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: well i guess micmix is gonna do it
[2015-11-11 01:42:34] sleger : micmix: but can you work elsewhere?
[2015-11-11 01:42:49] micmix : yes
[2015-11-11 01:43:36] sleger : you dev in what ? python?
[2015-11-11 01:44:26] micmix : node.js and C#, our quants use R and F#
[2015-11-11 01:45:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: You use Python? That's what I'm using right now. Considered Go but Python seems sufficiently quick
[2015-11-11 01:45:32] sleger : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: for btc related stuff, python, done well, is 100000x more than enough
[2015-11-11 01:45:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: That's what I figured. This isn't the NYSE or anything haha
[2015-11-11 01:45:55] sleger : micmix: hmm not really my cup of tea though...
[2015-11-11 01:46:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : No need to slow myself down with lower level code
[2015-11-11 01:46:18] sleger : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: dont underestimate python, done well, it is very very fast
[2015-11-11 01:46:30] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: Yep :)
[2015-11-11 01:46:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I should read up on Python performance tricks
[2015-11-11 01:46:48] micmix : programming language doesn't really matter, just use whatever you are comfortable with
[2015-11-11 01:47:11] micmix : Python has very good stat libraries you can use
[2015-11-11 01:47:22] sleger : well, they have specifics, like c# you will be stuck with windows, and that is a big constraint
[2015-11-11 01:48:05] sleger : python on linux can be faster than c# on windows for certain scenarios, actually a lot of them
[2015-11-11 01:49:02] micmix : no, our C# system is multi-platform, runs on Linux using mono as well as on Windows. Main reason for C# is easy interoperability with F# that quants use
[2015-11-11 01:49:20] sleger : yes but c# on linux kills a lot of performance
[2015-11-11 01:50:20] sleger : C# wasnt made to work on windows, they should use java then, java is almost c#
[2015-11-11 01:51:43] micmix : Interop between Java and F#? No thanks, I'm not writing that :-)
[2015-11-11 01:52:14] sleger : hmm no i meant if you write code that compiles in c#, porting to java is easy
[2015-11-11 01:52:35] sleger : i dont know much about f# sorry if there's a trick i dont know there
[2015-11-11 01:52:46] sleger : but running c# on linux, not the best idea
[2015-11-11 01:52:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 1 hour-6 hour so oversold it's not even funny
[2015-11-11 01:54:14] gustavo7 : damn son
[2015-11-11 01:54:39] SnackyCoins : http://i.imgur.com/oSOciPg.jpg
[2015-11-11 01:54:50] micmix : F# is a functional language popular in finance, similar to Haskell and OCaml
[2015-11-11 01:54:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : lol @SnackyCoins
[2015-11-11 01:55:10] gustavo7 : good old bitcoin
[2015-11-11 01:55:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I <3 catching knives
[2015-11-11 01:55:51] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I love catching knives
[2015-11-11 01:56:06] sleger : micmix: it's not that popular, I kind of know what it is, but dont know anyone using it, R yes maybe
[2015-11-11 01:57:25] micmix : sleger: well our quants had lots of code in F# so we had to support it
[2015-11-11 01:57:36] babybaby : BTC will be down
[2015-11-11 01:57:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Damn. Just fat fingered my order and was eaten alive by fees and market makers
[2015-11-11 01:58:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Had profit if I didn't mess that up. I need a bot to make orders for me
[2015-11-11 01:58:24] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: fuuuck man I feel your pain
[2015-11-11 01:58:43] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Yeahhh. Still have good profit for the day but fat fingers are always a bummer
[2015-11-11 01:58:46] Murch : I lost over 100 points closing some contracts at the lowest ask on the quarterly