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[2015-11-10 17:21:31] AudibleScience : how come it dropped to less than 3 dollars though... that's a crazy drop in less that 8 hours! it was over $10 yesterday when I left... just crazy...
[2015-11-10 17:21:49] AudibleScience : *than
[2015-11-10 17:25:08] Murch : TschavaTschigger: believe me, finex is shitting right with China lol
[2015-11-10 17:27:32] Murch : Hmm, shorting this one
[2015-11-10 17:31:42] habibi : this is boring
[2015-11-10 17:31:46] habibi : up and down up and down
[2015-11-10 17:34:01] cekseh : Chop chop
[2015-11-10 17:35:43] Murch : power nap time
[2015-11-10 17:38:00] nickhnt : wow this chat is on fire today ;)
[2015-11-10 17:38:11] nickhnt : every 10 minutes theres a 100 msgs here
[2015-11-10 17:39:37] cekseh : That will die down over the next few days I think, as newcomers run out of equity and/or jump off of tall buildings
[2015-11-10 17:40:59] floopfloop : I vote jumping
[2015-11-10 17:41:14] Murch : The price looks like it's about to jump off a building
[2015-11-10 17:41:48] floopfloop : Your mom looks like she's about to jump off a building
[2015-11-10 17:41:54] floopfloop : Ohhhhhhhhhhh
[2015-11-10 17:42:06] nickhnt : lol
[2015-11-10 17:42:08] nickhnt : rekt
[2015-11-10 17:42:12] cekseh : Probably because murch is gambling with her SS check
[2015-11-10 17:42:34] floopfloop : Rekt is right
[2015-11-10 17:42:44] floopfloop : nickhnt: you play csgo?
[2015-11-10 17:42:46] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Damn, you guys don't hold back
[2015-11-10 17:43:15] nickhnt : floopfloop: nope, why?
[2015-11-10 17:43:17] Murch : lololol
[2015-11-10 17:43:30] floopfloop : Rekt is popular lingo
[2015-11-10 17:44:51] floopfloop : We should filter "bitch" to be "motherly figure"
[2015-11-10 17:44:57] cekseh : It also has some shiny new appeal to the cool kids that started trading in november
[2015-11-10 17:45:04] cekseh : =)
[2015-11-10 17:45:13] floopfloop : Then people could say your mom's a motherly figure
[2015-11-10 17:45:49] floopfloop : Or stop being such a motherly figure
[2015-11-10 17:46:21] floopfloop : Did you seee that fine motherly figure walking down the street?
[2015-11-10 17:46:45] floopfloop : That motherly figure had a huge rack
[2015-11-10 17:47:03] floopfloop : Yo, Jerry is such a motherly figure
[2015-11-10 17:47:29] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: This motherly figure on 1800flowers.com...
[2015-11-10 17:47:43] floopfloop : @Bitmex_wally what you think
[2015-11-10 17:48:00] floopfloop : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: omg the internet wins
[2015-11-10 17:48:37] floopfloop : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: can you get wally in on this. Im on my phone
[2015-11-10 17:49:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: He's not here right now
[2015-11-10 17:49:34] floopfloop : He wil still see it though
[2015-11-10 17:50:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : @BitMEX_Wally, floopfloop wants you
[2015-11-10 17:50:37] TschavaTschigger : in early afternoon, markets were fun... but now it's boring
[2015-11-10 17:50:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I have to go. Cya later
[2015-11-10 17:50:41] TschavaTschigger : I want chaos again
[2015-11-10 17:50:46] TschavaTschigger : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: cya < 3
[2015-11-10 17:50:57] floopfloop : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: veey much, 1800flowers.com style
[2015-11-10 17:53:43] cekseh : https://www.okcoin.com/future/futureTop.do?type=1&symbol=0
[2015-11-10 17:53:45] cekseh : lol.
[2015-11-10 18:10:22] habibi : Murch: IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb
[2015-11-10 18:10:28] habibi : where we going guys :)?
[2015-11-10 18:11:12] Murch : habibi: I've shorted but I've got class soon so my stop are ready.
[2015-11-10 18:11:29] Murch : is rather
[2015-11-10 18:12:25] habibi : yea i am on temp long, but gonna fly with wind if it will move any side
[2015-11-10 18:12:40] habibi : break any side*
[2015-11-10 18:16:49] cekseh : okc is heavily long.
[2015-11-10 18:17:50] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: can u exlude changing okcoin to woood.. in links?
[2015-11-10 18:18:08] habibi : lel
[2015-11-10 18:19:01] jung1 : damn that sellout of LTC on okcoin was awesome
[2015-11-10 18:19:13] jung1 : from 30CKY to 0.01CKY
[2015-11-10 18:19:49] cekseh : On no volume too, either a glitch or the book there is nonexistant
[2015-11-10 18:20:03] habibi : jung1: it was not a sellout itself
[2015-11-10 18:20:20] habibi : possibly margin cascade get wrong in trade engine
[2015-11-10 18:21:07] habibi : on great volume tho http://i.imgur.com/XrXbMei.png
[2015-11-10 18:34:57] justinlooking : XBTH15 dpe back to zero?
[2015-11-10 18:40:56] justinlooking : *H16
[2015-11-10 18:41:49] justinlooking : i thought it was instrument.indicativeTaxRate
[2015-11-10 18:42:26] justinlooking : but my account still showing same withheld profit
[2015-11-10 18:43:16] j8 : justinlooking: withheld profit is what the tax rate would be applied to. it doesn't clear until friday
[2015-11-10 18:44:49] cekseh : Habibi, you know that you that chart is inaccurate right?
[2015-11-10 18:45:08] cekseh : If you look closely you might notice something is amiss.
[2015-11-10 18:45:16] justinlooking : oh ok, thanks j8, i shall wait for the rebalance of my flat position :S
[2015-11-10 18:45:34] cekseh : Their trading engine farted, volume was shit
[2015-11-10 18:46:04] habibi : cekseh: what exacly is missed?
[2015-11-10 18:46:19] cekseh : open that link you pasted in here a few minutes ago and look
[2015-11-10 18:46:20] cekseh : I'll wait
[2015-11-10 18:47:29] j8 : justinlooking: yep, just hope 0 DPE lasts until friday
[2015-11-10 18:48:03] habibi : cekseh: double same pattern of vol?
[2015-11-10 18:51:19] habibi : cekseh: http://scr.hu/9xvi/9oft2
[2015-11-10 18:53:20] cekseh : So their internal bots went amuck, and they froze/reverse trades of anyone that took advantage of it
[2015-11-10 18:53:25] cekseh : oops
[2015-11-10 18:53:26] cekseh : =)
[2015-11-10 18:54:00] habibi : yep, if there were no significiant volume then its fine :)
[2015-11-10 18:54:14] habibi : otherwise.. stil fine :p just no new milioners;p
[2015-11-10 18:54:53] cekseh : Except for the fellow on whaleclub last night that manage to buy at 1.23cny, convert to bitcoin and withdraw before okc could freeze his account
[2015-11-10 18:54:54] cekseh : =)
[2015-11-10 18:56:52] cekseh : okc.com/future/futureTop.do?type=1&symbol=0
[2015-11-10 18:57:00] cekseh : Whole lots longs to call right now
[2015-11-10 18:57:26] cekseh : 46% long to 26% short
[2015-11-10 18:57:44] cekseh : mm still largely short
[2015-11-10 18:59:11] cekseh : I'm thinking sub 340 before 360
[2015-11-10 19:00:40] habibi : cekseh: how much he took?
[2015-11-10 19:01:41] cekseh : relatively small amount, claimed to net 52 btc profit then emptied his okcoin account
[2015-11-10 19:01:55] cekseh : couple minutes later they froze it, probably to reverse transactions
[2015-11-10 19:02:07] cekseh : too late bitches, cant reverse bitcoin transaction.
[2015-11-10 19:03:05] kendang : wasn't there a case where bitcoin transactions were reversed? i think i read about it a couple years ago when a big bitcoin theft was going on,.
[2015-11-10 19:03:17] kendang : somehow they did it
[2015-11-10 19:03:29] kendang : or maybe they tracked down the guy and hacked him too
[2015-11-10 19:03:34] kendang : dont remember
[2015-11-10 19:04:26] habibi : dont know, if they were they were done in hardfork
[2015-11-10 19:04:34] cekseh : probably talking about emergency hard fork, when someone duped billions of bitcoins years back
[2015-11-10 19:04:51] habibi : ah yea someone add bilions of btc to network right?
[2015-11-10 19:06:18] habibi : hobi ddosed again
[2015-11-10 19:06:48] habibi : so little pump until its back online
[2015-11-10 19:06:54] kendang : habibi: what do they gain? extortion? manipulation of price?
[2015-11-10 19:07:26] habibi : i dont know, i just see a patern that most times hobi get dossed price on okcoin goes up a bit
[2015-11-10 19:27:02] SnackyCoins : houbi and okc share books
[2015-11-10 19:27:35] SnackyCoins : houbi being ddosed means less orders being taken out of okc
[2015-11-10 19:27:46] SnackyCoins : it could go either way really
[2015-11-10 19:28:04] kendang : let's hope it goes down again.
[2015-11-10 19:28:08] SnackyCoins : iirc btcchina is in that group too
[2015-11-10 19:28:13] kendang : *fingers-crossed*
[2015-11-10 19:28:15] SnackyCoins : its just gonna correct when it comes back up
[2015-11-10 19:28:50] SnackyCoins : its called remarketing and bitfinex does it too, its not strange & happens all the time on "normal" brokers
[2015-11-10 19:29:19] SnackyCoins : though dunno if they have the liquidity to do that as much anymore 8)
[2015-11-10 19:32:36] habibi : bitfinex does it with stamp?
[2015-11-10 19:32:41] habibi : or others?
[2015-11-10 19:33:01] kendang : what does that mean "remarketing"ß
[2015-11-10 19:33:28] SnackyCoins : that is where an exchange allows other exchanges to fill orders from it's book
[2015-11-10 19:33:53] kendang : SnackyCoins: i see thanks
[2015-11-10 19:34:29] kendang : someone is screwing a lady in the apartment above me. i am jealous. it's been a long time ...
[2015-11-10 19:35:12] kendang : squeaky bed
[2015-11-10 19:35:43] habibi : go and ask if they dont mind if u join them or just sit in corner with laptop and watch...
[2015-11-10 19:35:46] kendang : they're going hard at it
[2015-11-10 19:36:14] kendang : habibi: maybe i should live stream it to you guys then
[2015-11-10 19:36:50] habibi : would be fun :)
[2015-11-10 19:37:09] kendang : seems like they're done. lasted about 3 minutes
[2015-11-10 19:37:34] kendang : no wrong. they're still shagging
[2015-11-10 19:38:00] kendang : walls here are thin. i've become a ninja masturbator.
[2015-11-10 19:42:37] dynamike23 : does anyone know how to submit orders on the testnet? do I need to actually deposit some BTC?
[2015-11-10 19:43:09] cekseh : What exactly is a ninja masturbator
[2015-11-10 19:43:38] kendang : cekseh: someone who masturbates really really quietly
[2015-11-10 19:54:46] justinlooking : dynamike23: yes u need to deposit testnet btc. search for testnet faucets and paste your deposit address
[2015-11-10 19:54:58] justinlooking : *in2 them
[2015-11-10 20:04:33] dynamike23 : justinlooking: thanks, thats what i was looking for
[2015-11-10 20:32:43] micmix : BitMEX_Sam, are you there?
[2015-11-10 20:33:46] TschavaTschigger : its going down.. who the fukk is buying 8k?
[2015-11-10 20:35:20] micmix : TschavaTschigger: what contract? I'm buying a bit of XBTZ15
[2015-11-10 20:35:56] Murch : Now 2300 is aids
[2015-11-10 20:36:31] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: What's up?
[2015-11-10 20:36:49] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I noticed that. This is super choppy though. Idk where it's going
[2015-11-10 20:37:16] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Usually this direct sideways after a drop means more of a drop. I'm still short on this crap.
[2015-11-10 20:37:35] kendang : Murch: me too
[2015-11-10 20:37:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I'm guessing short too but OKCoin seems to want to do some woodchopping and since they shook out the longers it might be the shorters turn next
[2015-11-10 20:38:13] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: Hi Sam! The cancel API is a bit inconsistent. When I cancel multiple orders and those orders are already filled, I get 2xx and error object with a message saying that the order was not found, already filled or already canceled
[2015-11-10 20:39:02] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Yeah I guess I just see short as a better chance of success right now the way the price is behaving.
[2015-11-10 20:39:18] micmix : When I cancel one order that's already canceled or filled I get 404 and a message saying simply not found.
[2015-11-10 20:39:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I think you're very likely right about that
[2015-11-10 20:39:59] Murch : Haha thanks, I hope so. :P
[2015-11-10 20:40:02] micmix : I spent 30 minutes trying to figure out why it says not found, thinking I'm submitting wrong order id :-)
[2015-11-10 20:41:14] micmix : and related to that, sorry for pounding the API with cancel request for an hour :-)
[2015-11-10 20:47:00] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Right, the issue is that there isn't a code in the HTTP spec for a partial success
[2015-11-10 20:47:20] BitMEX_Sam : We return a 200 if at least one of the cancel requests actually worked
[2015-11-10 20:48:07] BitMEX_Sam : There's `207` but that's WebDAV... hoping someday they extend the spec
[2015-11-10 20:49:17] micmix : Yes, I understand, what tripped me up is a different error message. For single cancel: { error: { message: 'Not Found', name: 'HTTPError' } }
[2015-11-10 20:49:37] btctrader : hello everyone
[2015-11-10 20:49:47] kendang : btctrader: hello
[2015-11-10 20:50:09] btctrader : is there an equation how to calulate liquadtion price of a x100 position
[2015-11-10 20:50:10] btctrader : ?
[2015-11-10 20:50:41] justinlooking : btctrader: there is calculator in order controls, if you press order options dropdown
[2015-11-10 20:50:42] Murch : I think you just move down .5% from your entry price right?
[2015-11-10 20:50:42] micmix : For multiple cancels it says something like Not found, already canceled or filled (don't have it right now)
[2015-11-10 20:50:56] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Sure, but if all of the multiple cancels fail, it should return a normal 404
[2015-11-10 20:51:02] BitMEX_Sam : If it's not doing that, then there's a bug
[2015-11-10 20:52:51] btctrader : but i wanna use only 20% of my money
[2015-11-10 20:53:03] btctrader : sell cost = 20%
[2015-11-10 20:53:19] btctrader : how do i calulate the exact liquadation price
[2015-11-10 20:54:45] micmix : I think it does but I would like to see something that allows to distinguish between 404 not found bc there is no such order id and not found bc the order is already filled or canceled, something like additional status in the error object that you return
[2015-11-10 20:55:33] micmix : Simple HTTP status like 404 or 200 just doesn't provide enough info
[2015-11-10 20:56:14] justinlooking : exchange suspended?
[2015-11-10 20:56:15] justinlooking : wut!
[2015-11-10 20:56:37] kendang : WTF?
[2015-11-10 20:56:47] kendang : BitMEX_Sam: ???
[2015-11-10 20:56:51] Murch : price is eating it, loool
[2015-11-10 20:57:05] justinlooking : i see 346.8 bid and 360 offer
[2015-11-10 20:57:17] kendang : me too
[2015-11-10 20:57:18] justinlooking : as best b/o in h16
[2015-11-10 20:57:22] justinlooking : *24h
[2015-11-10 20:57:24] justinlooking : sory
[2015-11-10 20:57:26] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Exchange suspended???
[2015-11-10 20:57:29] cekseh : Looks legit
[2015-11-10 20:57:44] Crypto Wealth : exchange suspended?!
[2015-11-10 20:58:01] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: ?
[2015-11-10 20:58:04] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : WTF
[2015-11-10 20:58:19] Crypto Wealth : orders wont fill?
[2015-11-10 20:58:21] Murch : shits goin ham sandwich
[2015-11-10 20:58:24] habibi : greeeat
[2015-11-10 20:58:26] kendang : need to get out of my position
[2015-11-10 20:58:28] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Now this is bouncing and I can't close my short!
[2015-11-10 20:58:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : kendang: Me too!
[2015-11-10 20:58:31] cekseh : It is kind of unfortunate when things like this happen.
[2015-11-10 20:58:31] justinlooking : gettin mad lag errywer
[2015-11-10 20:58:34] Crypto Wealth : wft!!
[2015-11-10 20:58:56] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Sam: are you here?
[2015-11-10 20:59:09] BitMEX_Sam : Working on it guys
[2015-11-10 20:59:09] Crypto Wealth : grrrr
[2015-11-10 20:59:18] AbuAli : what's going on !!
[2015-11-10 20:59:20] BitMEX_Sam : We have automated audit systems that triggered an inconsistency
[2015-11-10 20:59:32] TschavaTschigger : haha
[2015-11-10 20:59:37] Crypto Wealth : this is kinda messed up
[2015-11-10 20:59:44] TschavaTschigger : happens
[2015-11-10 20:59:47] habibi : great
[2015-11-10 20:59:48] Crypto Wealth : cant close out tand the spread turned to garbage
[2015-11-10 20:59:48] habibi : :/
[2015-11-10 20:59:56] justinlooking : lol at leats we're not in the dark... stop moaning they are gonna fix it
[2015-11-10 21:00:00] kogroken : Well what is this!
[2015-11-10 21:00:06] nickhnt : Crypto Wealth: i know how it feels :/
[2015-11-10 21:00:07] cekseh : This is bitcoin guys, all exchanges do this. =)
[2015-11-10 21:00:13] kendang : cekseh: hehe
[2015-11-10 21:00:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : When this comes back online either the spread will be too wide or the price will already have bounced enough that my position in major profit will probably be in the negative
[2015-11-10 21:00:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Ugh
[2015-11-10 21:00:46] kendang : no, but seriously. it's not the end of the world. although it might spook some traderrs and we might see even less volume in the coming days/weeks
[2015-11-10 21:00:47] Crypto Wealth : cekseh: that's dissapointing I thought this one would be betetr
[2015-11-10 21:00:51] AbuAli : any suppler's here ?
[2015-11-10 21:00:59] AbuAli : Order could not be submitted: Exchange suspended
[2015-11-10 21:01:00] AbuAli : why ?
[2015-11-10 21:01:11] cekseh : This is far less unplesant than okcoin cutting off western traders and then pumping the price 50$
[2015-11-10 21:01:15] TschavaTschigger : this ain't wallstreet guys... relax
[2015-11-10 21:01:22] cekseh : Then cutting off westerners again and dumping it 40$ a day later
[2015-11-10 21:01:26] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cekseh: True but I'm still probably about to get screwed
[2015-11-10 21:01:41] BitMEX_Sam : We are back
[2015-11-10 21:01:57] kendang : BitMEX_Sam: BIG thumbs up!
[2015-11-10 21:02:12] kogroken : https://i.imgur.com/FiERfBm.png
[2015-11-10 21:02:20] kendang : BitMEX_Sam: what was the issue?
[2015-11-10 21:02:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: Thanks for the quick fix but what about not being able to close during that time?
[2015-11-10 21:02:26] justinlooking : autopsy please!
[2015-11-10 21:02:33] justinlooking : max gore ;)
[2015-11-10 21:02:34] BitMEX_Sam : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: No trades are allowed to execute when an audit fails
[2015-11-10 21:02:44] TschavaTschigger : makes sense
[2015-11-10 21:02:49] BitMEX_Sam : This is our way of ensuring that an inconsistency in the system does not create collateral damage
[2015-11-10 21:02:59] Murch : quite the bounce there
[2015-11-10 21:03:00] BitMEX_Sam : We will be back with more information on what caused it shortly
[2015-11-10 21:03:10] cekseh : Pretty lucky the price was approximately the same before and after
[2015-11-10 21:03:11] TschavaTschigger : thumbs up for smart adminz!!
[2015-11-10 21:03:23] habibi : pretty much not
[2015-11-10 21:03:28] AudibleScience : how come I got totally liquidated during that then??
[2015-11-10 21:03:34] TschavaTschigger : honestly guys, this ain't wallstreet... things like this happen
[2015-11-10 21:03:44] BitMEX_Sam : This is a 24/7 market, unfortunately things like this happen
[2015-11-10 21:03:50] BitMEX_Sam : Things like this happen even on Wall Street, too
[2015-11-10 21:03:50] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: Do you do refunds? I would have had 0.1 BTC in profit if I had been able to close and the bounce combined with going offline put me at a loss
[2015-11-10 21:04:05] BitMEX_Sam : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Send an email to support@bitmex.com and we will go through the history
[2015-11-10 21:04:08] BitMEX_Sam : Same for you AudibleScience
[2015-11-10 21:04:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: Ok thanks
[2015-11-10 21:04:20] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I took a screenshot of when I was trying to close
[2015-11-10 21:04:26] BitMEX_Sam : Good - that'll help
[2015-11-10 21:04:47] BitMEX_Sam : We will go through the price history around the suspension, it is easy to tell exactly how much PNL there would have been
[2015-11-10 21:05:11] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: Ok great. Thanks for being on top of things. I'll send that email
[2015-11-10 21:05:15] kogroken : Well, at least this is better than sudden 1 CNY litecoins like somewhere else.
[2015-11-10 21:05:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : kogroken: lol for sure
[2015-11-10 21:05:23] Murch : I think it's about to head back down, holding my shorts
[2015-11-10 21:05:34] Murch : Would have been nice to close before though lol
[2015-11-10 21:05:38] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks for bearing with us everyone, we will ensure the root cause is addressed and make a postmortem
[2015-11-10 21:05:52] sleger : i dont think there should be refunds for an event like this, some people will also have saved money (that they would have lost otherwise) and you wont see that
[2015-11-10 21:06:07] irbbqu : No biggie, thanks for fixing it that swift.
[2015-11-10 21:06:23] irbbqu : I agree with sleger.
[2015-11-10 21:06:46] sleger : otherwise here it is : I would have shorted 10k btc on the rebound I think, but the exchange was down...
[2015-11-10 21:07:12] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: I agree with you in principle, we will handle these case-by-case
[2015-11-10 21:07:36] BitMEX_Sam : It is a matter of whether or not we can trace actual loss to a trade disruption
[2015-11-10 21:08:03] SnackyCoins : it was handled incredibly fast
[2015-11-10 21:08:06] sleger : missed profit, trade loss, same thing
[2015-11-10 21:08:31] SnackyCoins : bitcoin exchange downtime fixed faster than i could get a delivery sandwitch
[2015-11-10 21:09:02] Teddy76 : sleger: virtual profit is nothing
[2015-11-10 21:10:06] sleger : Teddy76: Thanks, but that is what I'm saying
[2015-11-10 21:10:21] Teddy76 : Dont blame team for that
[2015-11-10 21:10:55] sleger : Teddy76: I am not, read again
[2015-11-10 21:12:50] cekseh : Don't mind teddy, hes a bit high.
[2015-11-10 21:13:07] Teddy76 : NP
[2015-11-10 21:13:16] SnackyCoins : bitcoin exchange operators are the only people in bitcoin that get less sleep than the traders
[2015-11-10 21:13:45] sleger : they also make money on every single trade ;)
[2015-11-10 21:13:55] SnackyCoins : yeah ;)
[2015-11-10 21:13:57] Teddy76 : LOL
[2015-11-10 21:14:00] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: regarding our earlier discussion about the cancel API, could you add order status when you return 404 bc the order is already canceled or filled, so I would get json like: { error: { message: 'Not Found', name: 'HTTPError', orderID: 'bd9c8e4a-b0b2-e9a6-0c22-9fafd41c5ed6', orderStatus: 'Canceled'} }
[2015-11-10 21:14:29] BitMEX_Sam : Ah
[2015-11-10 21:14:29] Teddy76 : sleger: agree with that
[2015-11-10 21:14:32] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: That's fine to do, yes
[2015-11-10 21:14:45] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: cool, would help a lot
[2015-11-10 21:16:25] btctrader : bitmex_sam: is there an equation how to calulate liquadtion price of a x100 position?
[2015-11-10 21:16:38] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Actually, I'm interested in what your use case is, because you already should know the status through the websocket
[2015-11-10 21:17:02] BitMEX_Sam : btctrader: Yes, if it's isolated 100x, a 0.5% move will put you into liquidation
[2015-11-10 21:17:19] btctrader : but what if i use only 10%
[2015-11-10 21:17:23] btctrader : of my funs
[2015-11-10 21:17:23] BitMEX_Sam : See `Maintenance Margin` under https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBT24H
[2015-11-10 21:17:32] BitMEX_Sam : Then it is 10x that
[2015-11-10 21:18:21] BitMEX_Sam : Actually more, sorry, because you will be putting up 10% margin, and at 0.5% you will be liquidated
[2015-11-10 21:18:33] btctrader : so it's a 18 dollar move in the opposite direction?
[2015-11-10 21:18:41] BitMEX_Sam : so you have 9.5% of wiggle room
[2015-11-10 21:19:25] btctrader : oh ok thnx
[2015-11-10 21:19:26] BitMEX_Sam : btctrader: Be sure to switch to cross margin in the Order Options
[2015-11-10 21:19:48] btctrader : what does cross margin means
[2015-11-10 21:20:05] BitMEX_Sam : It means that it uses your total account balance to finance the position
[2015-11-10 21:20:17] BitMEX_Sam : Rather than assigning the minimum allowable amount and allowing liquidation
[2015-11-10 21:20:23] btctrader : alright
[2015-11-10 21:20:49] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: Yep, and in 99.99% cases I do. But I had websocket disconnected exactly at the right moment and it missed order status update. It's sounds very improbable but it can happen if you submit and cancel thousands and thousands of orders.
[2015-11-10 21:20:54] BitMEX_Sam : Essentially we allow isolating an individual position, which lets you customize the leverage you want while limiting the possible loss
[2015-11-10 21:21:14] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Understood, but at that point wouldn't it make sense to just hit `GET /order`?
[2015-11-10 21:23:15] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: Yep, but it's an extra API call and additional complexity. You pull up the order anyway when processing cancel, should be easy to add couple of fields to the returned json. BTW, you add order id to returned json in case of batch cancels but not in case of single cancel
[2015-11-10 21:25:26] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: I sent an email to support. Thanks for your help
[2015-11-10 21:26:05] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: I'm trying to save API calls everywhere I can, and extra roundtrip lag for GET /order before I re-submit quotes is unwanted
[2015-11-10 21:27:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Good call on holding your short. I thought that bounce was the end of it
[2015-11-10 21:27:46] cekseh : Shits gettin real
[2015-11-10 21:27:56] cekseh : finex wall gone
[2015-11-10 21:28:06] gustavo7 : wreking some volume
[2015-11-10 21:28:56] cekseh : goin deep
[2015-11-10 21:29:00] cekseh : woo
[2015-11-10 21:29:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Wow
[2015-11-10 21:29:09] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: haha thanks man, feeling pretty good bout this
[2015-11-10 21:29:10] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Internally we actually don't have access to that object to return it, we would have to make a separate request inside the API
[2015-11-10 21:29:12] zanza : is this the floor guys ?
[2015-11-10 21:29:27] gustavo7 : are these margin calls yet on finex?
[2015-11-10 21:29:30] BitMEX_Sam : Anyway I work to make it more consistent
[2015-11-10 21:29:34] BitMEX_Sam : will work*
[2015-11-10 21:29:37] habibi : not yet
[2015-11-10 21:29:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: You made the right call. I freaked out about the exchange freeze and tried to minimize my losses since I didn't know where this was going but now I wish I had held onto my position
[2015-11-10 21:30:06] cekseh : trade your own account guys, don't do what someone else says just cause they say it
[2015-11-10 21:30:08] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: interesting, you must check order status to know if the order is already canceled, so you should be able to return it
[2015-11-10 21:30:24] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: It has to do with how the system is architected, doesn't matter much from your perspective
[2015-11-10 21:30:34] BitMEX_Sam : Don't worry about it
[2015-11-10 21:31:27] cekseh : people are buying this
[2015-11-10 21:31:29] TschavaTschigger : yesss dumptime < 3
[2015-11-10 21:31:31] cekseh : derp derp
[2015-11-10 21:31:51] gustavo7 : 2190 on okcoin
[2015-11-10 21:32:48] cekseh : new lows okc
[2015-11-10 21:33:46] Murch : Shit I covered there
[2015-11-10 21:33:50] Murch : A little early I think :/
[2015-11-10 21:34:25] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 213 BTC to 2300 on OKC. Wow
[2015-11-10 21:34:27] Murch : That was good though. What a satisfying short LOL
[2015-11-10 21:34:36] cekseh : indeed
[2015-11-10 21:34:37] sleger : 20k btc of liq orders on 0kcoin quarterly
[2015-11-10 21:35:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: Wow
[2015-11-10 21:35:26] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Your best trade yet perhaps? Way to go for sticking with it
[2015-11-10 21:36:04] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Haha, a very good one ROI% wise for sure :P Thanks dude feelsgoodman.jpg
[2015-11-10 21:36:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: :) I'm trying the knife catching strategy now. Working great so far
[2015-11-10 21:36:33] zanza : careful with your hands
[2015-11-10 21:36:37] Murch : Yep, just bought in a bit
[2015-11-10 21:36:39] floopfloop : where is the floor?
[2015-11-10 21:36:56] cekseh : longs still crazy high on okc
[2015-11-10 21:37:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Bitfinex going for a crazy amount of retracement
[2015-11-10 21:37:43] habibi : guys mark my words, that was the low 336!:p
[2015-11-10 21:37:49] sleger : cekseh: ?
[2015-11-10 21:38:05] gustavo7 : i think double bottom at least
[2015-11-10 21:38:10] Murch : I think it is possible that was the low
[2015-11-10 21:38:26] floopfloop : $11 premium
[2015-11-10 21:38:29] Murch : It depends on how far this shit bounces
[2015-11-10 21:38:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I'm thinking the same. That was a very strong bounce from BFX
[2015-11-10 21:39:09] Murch : Covered, may buy back in lower
[2015-11-10 21:39:28] JACOBcze : so
[2015-11-10 21:39:30] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Same same. Caught the knife by the handle fortunately
[2015-11-10 21:39:41] JACOBcze : i just did my first trade
[2015-11-10 21:39:45] JACOBcze : i made 0.005
[2015-11-10 21:39:46] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: good work us ;)
[2015-11-10 21:39:56] JACOBcze : but my account shows i didnt make that and just shows me that im down the fee i payed
[2015-11-10 21:39:59] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: :)
[2015-11-10 21:40:03] JACOBcze : why is that, my wallet balance is fine
[2015-11-10 21:40:19] sleger : JACOBcze: I took all your profit
[2015-11-10 21:40:23] JACOBcze : D:
[2015-11-10 21:40:27] TschavaTschigger : Murch: there is no low.. thats the beautiful thing about bitcoin :)
[2015-11-10 21:40:30] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: lol
[2015-11-10 21:40:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : TschavaTschigger: hahaha
[2015-11-10 21:40:46] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : TschavaTschigger: 160 was a pretty convincing low for me
[2015-11-10 21:40:58] Murch : fuck I just fat fingered half my order
[2015-11-10 21:41:02] Murch : I am so pissed at myself
[2015-11-10 21:41:21] zanza : lol
[2015-11-10 21:41:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Oh no
[2015-11-10 21:41:37] floopfloop : Murch: yeah i just screwed up my order too
[2015-11-10 21:42:32] Murch : meant to put it at 426 and it shifted to 509 while I was trying..
[2015-11-10 21:42:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : If this really bounces here that's some solid bullish divergence on the 15 and 30 min MACD, but I've said that a lot so I don't think it means much
[2015-11-10 21:43:07] sleger : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: a bullish crash then ... ?
[2015-11-10 21:43:09] floopfloop : Murch: its at 427 now
[2015-11-10 21:43:18] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: Haha I know I know
[2015-11-10 21:43:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I just can't tame my permabull at heart
[2015-11-10 21:43:41] Murch : floopfloop: Oh shit, that was the order you opened?
[2015-11-10 21:43:42] zanza : is this t e floor?
[2015-11-10 21:44:01] floopfloop : no i messed up ont he friday
[2015-11-10 21:44:06] JACOBcze : im still confused if i buy 1000 contracts I buy 0.1BTC? or 0.1BTC on 100x leverage, or am i completely retarded
[2015-11-10 21:44:09] floopfloop : but I was eyeing up MAR as well
[2015-11-10 21:44:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : JACOBcze: If you buy 1000 contracts you buy 0.00001 BTC per $1 price
[2015-11-10 21:44:34] JACOBcze : could be the floor could be temporary floor and go down another 20$ later
[2015-11-10 21:44:40] floopfloop : JACOBcze: read the guides.
[2015-11-10 21:44:43] Murch : round 2?
[2015-11-10 21:44:44] JACOBcze : yeah thanks i totally understand that
[2015-11-10 21:44:56] zanza : 1000*.00001* 338 = 3.38 XBT value
[2015-11-10 21:44:59] floopfloop : JACOBcze: read the guides
[2015-11-10 21:44:59] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : JACOBcze: So at $340 that's .00001*340 BTC per contract
[2015-11-10 21:45:06] habibi : or i could be wrong lel :p
[2015-11-10 21:45:10] JACOBcze : wth
[2015-11-10 21:45:24] JACOBcze : who invented this shit
[2015-11-10 21:45:28] floopfloop : ?
[2015-11-10 21:45:33] zanza : jacob, look at "order value" its standard f utures trading
[2015-11-10 21:45:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : JACOBcze: You should read this https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/XBT
[2015-11-10 21:45:45] zanza : this is professional shit
[2015-11-10 21:45:45] floopfloop : JACOBcze: read the guides
[2015-11-10 21:45:58] JACOBcze : floopfloop pls
[2015-11-10 21:46:02] JACOBcze : icht something pls
[2015-11-10 21:46:07] JACOBcze : so order value is pretty much BTC?
[2015-11-10 21:46:08] cekseh : more core
[2015-11-10 21:46:11] zanza : JACOBcze: "order value" will tell you how much your order is "worth"
[2015-11-10 21:46:14] floopfloop : JACOBcze: read the guides
[2015-11-10 21:46:18] JACOBcze : floopfloop pls
[2015-11-10 21:46:23] zanza : JACOBcze: pls
[2015-11-10 21:46:26] floopfloop : stop asking silly questions
[2015-11-10 21:46:27] JACOBcze : pls
[2015-11-10 21:46:39] floopfloop : everything is in the guides. Read them, then ask questions
[2015-11-10 21:46:54] kendang : this can't be true. i go for walk, the market drops massively. now i go eat a pizza and the market drops again.
[2015-11-10 21:47:06] floopfloop : kendang: go to the strip club
[2015-11-10 21:47:08] sleger : JACOBcze: yes 1 contract is one bitcoin, if you think the price will go up then click the red button
[2015-11-10 21:47:17] JACOBcze : wow
[2015-11-10 21:47:19] JACOBcze : sledger ok wow
[2015-11-10 21:47:25] JACOBcze : i see what u did there and i dont appreciate it
[2015-11-10 21:47:32] floopfloop : JACOBcze: read the guides
[2015-11-10 21:47:35] JACOBcze : i think im gonna write you an unpleasant letter
[2015-11-10 21:47:35] zanza : lmao
[2015-11-10 21:47:39] kendang : floopfloop: there's only one in town and it's boring as fuck.
[2015-11-10 21:47:40] zanza : u guys are insane
[2015-11-10 21:48:26] kendang : not gently carress! F_U_C_K
[2015-11-10 21:48:32] JACOBcze : Buy cost = how much BTC im putting in it pretty much?
[2015-11-10 21:48:56] JACOBcze : ok screw this im gonna do the math
[2015-11-10 21:49:01] habibi : JACOBcze: where u from?
[2015-11-10 21:49:02] TschavaTschigger : crazy that there is still a premium on 24h haha
[2015-11-10 21:49:09] floopfloop : JACOBcze: read the guides
[2015-11-10 21:49:14] floopfloop : JACOBcze: read the guides
[2015-11-10 21:49:14] gustavo7 : buy cost doesnt mean much, it's lower the higher the leverage
[2015-11-10 21:49:17] JACOBcze : OK floopfloop goddamnit
[2015-11-10 21:49:19] floopfloop : JACOBcze: read the guides
[2015-11-10 21:49:19] floopfloop : JACOBcze: read the guides
[2015-11-10 21:49:20] floopfloop : JACOBcze: read the guides
[2015-11-10 21:49:22] JACOBcze : i hear you
[2015-11-10 21:49:27] habibi : dont spam guys, pls
[2015-11-10 21:49:28] floopfloop : then do it already
[2015-11-10 21:49:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: patience :)
[2015-11-10 21:49:46] floopfloop : negative
[2015-11-10 21:49:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : We were all noobs here at one point
[2015-11-10 21:49:56] gustavo7 : always think about order value, then you kinda know how overleveraged you are
[2015-11-10 21:50:09] JACOBcze : i wouldnt call myself a noob, but in this kind of trading style yes
[2015-11-10 21:50:10] zanza : does anyone know what I should do if I want to learn more about trading here?
[2015-11-10 21:50:12] floopfloop : yes, but I was told to read the guides. Then i asked questions
[2015-11-10 21:50:20] floopfloop : not the other way around
[2015-11-10 21:50:20] JACOBcze : u should not do it here zanza
[2015-11-10 21:50:22] Murch : JACOBcze: yes, buy cost and sell cost are the amount of btc you put down for that position
[2015-11-10 21:50:23] TschavaTschigger : zanza: read the trollbox and learn from the pros
[2015-11-10 21:50:32] zanza : TschavaTschigger: :D
[2015-11-10 21:50:43] floopfloop : ROFL @TschavaTschigger
[2015-11-10 21:50:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : The pros... lol
[2015-11-10 21:50:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I wish
[2015-11-10 21:51:01] habibi : so Murch IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb whats the status of btc now in ur opinions?
[2015-11-10 21:51:16] JACOBcze : zanza check someone good on twitter like cryptoorca (disclaimer: not me) and people who he positively comments on
[2015-11-10 21:51:22] JACOBcze : one way to do it
[2015-11-10 21:51:50] JACOBcze : reading trollbox is basicly a suicide
[2015-11-10 21:52:12] floopfloop : JACOBcze: thats why you should read the guides instead
[2015-11-10 21:52:13] gustavo7 : hope u all shorted 242
[2015-11-10 21:52:24] gustavo7 : err 342, anyway
[2015-11-10 21:52:38] JACOBcze : yeah so the thing what u dont do here zanza
[2015-11-10 21:52:43] JACOBcze : is to panicshort after what gustavo just said
[2015-11-10 21:52:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: Uncertain at best haha. I don't know
[2015-11-10 21:53:11] floopfloop : 1800flowers.com
[2015-11-10 21:53:31] gustavo7 : oh no i'm serious, i have a feeling this dump train will soon continue
[2015-11-10 21:53:49] JACOBcze : well yes im just telling him he cant act on everything this trollbox says im not saying ure right or wrong
[2015-11-10 21:54:07] TschavaTschigger : zanza: if you are doing the opposite of what the trollbox is saying, you will be fine 100%
[2015-11-10 21:54:11] floopfloop : wow the only position with a premium is march
[2015-11-10 21:54:27] TschavaTschigger : zanza: they predict boom? short the fukk out of everything
[2015-11-10 21:54:31] Murch : habibi: I think we make a new low by a single digit amount of dollars and then bounce hard.
[2015-11-10 21:55:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I think that's an excellent call
[2015-11-10 21:55:18] gustavo7 : Murch: so 335? that would please me
[2015-11-10 21:55:24] gustavo7 : haha
[2015-11-10 21:55:32] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Thanks, we'll see
[2015-11-10 21:55:38] Murch : 335 seems like a reasonable place to go long
[2015-11-10 21:56:10] justinlooking : yes with tight stop
[2015-11-10 21:57:10] habibi : i need toilet, stop markets pls
[2015-11-10 21:58:05] Murch : bit lower than 335?
[2015-11-10 21:59:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: lol
[2015-11-10 21:59:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I need food
[2015-11-10 21:59:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Took another long. Seems to be a good bottom for now
[2015-11-10 22:00:05] floopfloop : i sold into march, its the only trade with a premium. I am out of margin, have fun peeps
[2015-11-10 22:00:10] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Yep, I went long too
[2015-11-10 22:00:23] Murch : Sorta panicked and opened at 337 like an idiot though
[2015-11-10 22:00:26] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: Cya floopfloop. Good luck
[2015-11-10 22:00:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I didn't do much better haha. 336.6
[2015-11-10 22:00:51] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I think it will still look like a good decision in 10 min
[2015-11-10 22:00:58] Murch : Oh okay that's mine too, I guess we in the same boat
[2015-11-10 22:01:13] Murch : Hopefully, sir
[2015-11-10 22:02:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I could sell right now already haha. Considering it but I think I'll give it more time
[2015-11-10 22:03:00] TschavaTschigger : sounds like a bad idea... next dump and you are gone
[2015-11-10 22:03:09] Murch : Damnit, I pussied out
[2015-11-10 22:03:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Me too
[2015-11-10 22:03:18] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : TschavaTschigger: Thanks
[2015-11-10 22:05:17] Murch : long at the same price
[2015-11-10 22:05:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I have to go for now. Cya all later
[2015-11-10 22:05:41] gustavo7 : cya
[2015-11-10 22:05:46] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Cya later dawg
[2015-11-10 22:05:49] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Remember to take your profits and take a break if you start to get chopped up :)
[2015-11-10 22:05:53] habibi : see you later
[2015-11-10 22:05:59] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: haha will do thanks
[2015-11-10 22:07:43] AudibleScience : Are you still here Sam?
[2015-11-10 22:08:08] BitMEX_Sam : AudibleScience: Yep, got your email
[2015-11-10 22:08:27] AudibleScience : Cool... and sorry man!
[2015-11-10 22:08:30] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: Did you enable the verify box for orders? I just made a pretty big mistake because of it
[2015-11-10 22:08:40] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, did you turn it back off?
[2015-11-10 22:08:49] floopfloop : where do you do taht?
[2015-11-10 22:08:49] zanza : fat finger?
[2015-11-10 22:08:54] zanza : surpruse profit?
[2015-11-10 22:08:58] BitMEX_Sam : The "Don't show this again" checkbox
[2015-11-10 22:09:12] kendang : good night guys
[2015-11-10 22:09:29] floopfloop : i dont think I did? Unless I was ina trading frenzy error. You should make that an option on the user account side of things
[2015-11-10 22:09:35] BitMEX_Sam : Working on a comprehensive preferences page that'll let you turn it back on, but for now, if you turn it off once, it stays off