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[2015-11-09 03:22:29] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Time to take profits thouh
[2015-11-09 03:22:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *though
[2015-11-09 03:22:37] floopfloop : brb, need to off myself
[2015-11-09 03:22:54] Murch : Took profit there
[2015-11-09 03:23:00] Murch : gonna go long on a dip I guess
[2015-11-09 03:23:04] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Nice! Me too
[2015-11-09 03:23:16] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: high five :D
[2015-11-09 03:23:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'm starting to think long is the way to go for now
[2015-11-09 03:24:11] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : That was a lame dip. Back in
[2015-11-09 03:24:29] Murch : word
[2015-11-09 03:24:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : That may have been a mistake haha
[2015-11-09 03:25:23] Murch : nacho frenzy: return of the dip
[2015-11-09 03:26:26] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : lol
[2015-11-09 03:27:32] Murch : Cmon China, let's get to the real action I have sleep to do
[2015-11-09 03:27:46] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Better than homework anyway
[2015-11-09 03:28:02] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Well I have a lot of homework, that's why I want to sleep
[2015-11-09 03:28:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Hahaha I see
[2015-11-09 03:28:24] Murch : Doing the homework on the other hand
[2015-11-09 03:28:59] Murch : Seems like a job for tomorrow Murch, the greatest of all beings and my personal savior
[2015-11-09 03:29:36] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : LOL
[2015-11-09 03:29:36] Murch : I feel like I'm always relying on that guy, bless him
[2015-11-09 03:29:46] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Sounds just like tomorrow IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb
[2015-11-09 03:30:06] Murch : No way haha
[2015-11-09 03:30:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Yeahhh I'm out
[2015-11-09 03:30:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Not a good idea to get back in so quickly in the first place
[2015-11-09 03:30:50] Murch : Dis b scar
[2015-11-09 03:31:22] Murch : Guess I'll load up lower, gotta stop chopping and be patient
[2015-11-09 03:31:42] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch:
[2015-11-09 03:31:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *It's a tough lesson to learn. I'm still working on it
[2015-11-09 03:32:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Improving slowly I hope
[2015-11-09 03:32:27] floopfloop : dont tell me its going down again
[2015-11-09 03:32:44] floopfloop : china must want cheap coins
[2015-11-09 03:32:47] Murch : Gonna scale in half here
[2015-11-09 03:32:51] Murch : and half a bit lower
[2015-11-09 03:33:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: It may be. I think this is where the magic needs to happen if there's a bullish case to be made
[2015-11-09 03:33:28] floopfloop : sell your wives, sell your daughters
[2015-11-09 03:33:39] floopfloop : $350 here we come. Losses here I come
[2015-11-09 03:33:59] Murch : jk gimme the second half please
[2015-11-09 03:34:05] Murch : Or not
[2015-11-09 03:34:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Haha
[2015-11-09 03:35:04] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Long again. Let's see how this works
[2015-11-09 03:35:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I think we're in a channel
[2015-11-09 03:36:46] Murch : Hopefully it will break soon
[2015-11-09 03:37:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: It's an up channel. Hopefully not
[2015-11-09 03:37:51] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Although I wouldn't complain about a break to the upside
[2015-11-09 03:38:01] Murch : Guess that's a fair point actually.
[2015-11-09 03:38:33] Murch : ~2480 should be next then
[2015-11-09 03:40:18] Murch : holding on for now
[2015-11-09 03:40:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Same same
[2015-11-09 03:42:46] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : And I'm out
[2015-11-09 03:43:01] floopfloop : $350 time
[2015-11-09 03:43:02] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Closed most of it with a limit though so I captured some profit
[2015-11-09 03:49:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Highest volume 3 min candle on OKCoin in the last hour and a half
[2015-11-09 03:49:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : And it's green
[2015-11-09 03:49:25] Murch : Still in it to win it
[2015-11-09 03:50:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Same with the 5 min
[2015-11-09 03:51:50] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Bitfinex on the other hand has been dead for two days
[2015-11-09 03:52:01] laisee : one of my fave movies ... "sideways"
[2015-11-09 03:52:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : laisee: haha
[2015-11-09 03:52:13] Swedishnut : 400 is the mark for soon floor
[2015-11-09 03:52:23] floopfloop : Swedishnut: LMFAO
[2015-11-09 03:52:59] Swedishnut : with usd at 72% inflation and a "strong" dollar with very high concentrations of wealth I think it will rise
[2015-11-09 03:53:16] floopfloop : Swedishnut: TROLOLOLOL
[2015-11-09 03:54:17] Swedishnut : WWII peg can only be a peg until a viable replacement is achieved and vetted. We are in the baby stages of crypto. I ersonally think a different alt of some form will best BTC
[2015-11-09 03:54:41] floopfloop : Swedishnut: lmfao, this guy
[2015-11-09 03:55:03] floopfloop : coindesk should hire you for their new comedy section
[2015-11-09 03:55:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: What if he's serious?
[2015-11-09 03:55:10] floopfloop : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: ^^
[2015-11-09 03:55:34] Swedishnut : I kinda am :P but I love philosophy and BTC is the "purest" form of money so far
[2015-11-09 03:55:41] Murch : Only way to win is buy EVERYTHIIIING
[2015-11-09 03:56:02] floopfloop : empty the MM pocketbook
[2015-11-09 03:58:25] Swedishnut : Have you seen Digibyte for instance?
[2015-11-09 03:59:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Swedishnut: The one with the $2 million market cap and 34 BTC volume today?
[2015-11-09 04:00:24] Swedishnut : yeah it is small but in the top 100.
[2015-11-09 04:00:44] Swedishnut : if your looking for something to invest in for 25$ it is not bad
[2015-11-09 04:01:19] Swedishnut : I bought it at 33 satoshi and held 13 mill. it paid quite well
[2015-11-09 04:01:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Swedishnut: I see. Nice
[2015-11-09 04:01:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : It is a kiddie pool though compared to the bitcoin market which is a kiddie pool compared to other markets
[2015-11-09 04:02:00] Murch : Swedishnut: Damn, that is an insane payout
[2015-11-09 04:02:01] Swedishnut : also the bonus of they are in china and usa they make a great xfer service between the two nations for value
[2015-11-09 04:02:31] Murch : I did see DGB earlier this month
[2015-11-09 04:02:38] Murch : Went up like 10x
[2015-11-09 04:03:08] Swedishnut : yeah and I see btc being about 10k at the peek bubble geek payout then a rebalance and question creation for world politicians about the value of their printed equivalent "cash"
[2015-11-09 04:03:29] Swedishnut : Sorr my english is a bit "nutz"
[2015-11-09 04:04:28] Murch : One of the things I think I'm looking forward to if there's a bubble is a shift of power to slightly smarter people.
[2015-11-09 04:04:46] Murch : A lot of these politicians don't know dick
[2015-11-09 04:04:59] Swedishnut : yes sir I agree. I really want the old farts to gasp and recognize the work of the young
[2015-11-09 04:05:09] Murch : Apart from the ones that sucked some the other night
[2015-11-09 04:05:58] Swedishnut : Yeah I avoided the last three days after I made a mis click that cost me 5 coins...
[2015-11-09 04:07:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Swedishnut: That's a bummer. Hope you've recovered ok
[2015-11-09 04:07:30] Murch : Sold out
[2015-11-09 04:07:43] Murch : 2480 that was my target there
[2015-11-09 04:07:53] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Me too. Most profitable trade of the day for sure
[2015-11-09 04:08:01] Murch : Swedishnut: Yeah I think I remember that, that was rough
[2015-11-09 04:08:26] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Yeah that worked out nicely for me too, yay for us. :D
[2015-11-09 04:09:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: :D
[2015-11-09 04:09:33] Swedishnut : Cheap start to the new china week hoping it will play out well in volume and adoption.
[2015-11-09 04:11:29] Murch : Shorting for a little while
[2015-11-09 04:11:44] Murch : uh oh LOL
[2015-11-09 04:11:49] Swedishnut : well the real "cheap" would be 299.97 per BTC but that is the marketing guy in me
[2015-11-09 04:12:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: lol good luck. I'm considering the same but not ready to pull the trigger yet
[2015-11-09 04:12:40] Swedishnut : if your an early adopter everything right now is expensive compared to .10 usd per coin in 2011
[2015-11-09 04:12:41] Murch : Nvm pulled out
[2015-11-09 04:13:18] Swedishnut : BTC is is the black hole of finance it will eat your money either way :)
[2015-11-09 04:13:23] Murch : No such thing as cheap or expensive. Only entry price and exit price.
[2015-11-09 04:13:52] Murch : Gonna try to jump in on the next pullback
[2015-11-09 04:13:55] Swedishnut : it ithe only opt in currency the rest you are forced to use due to where you were born
[2015-11-09 04:14:42] Murch : Forced by market dynamics rather
[2015-11-09 04:15:00] Murch : And bitcoin will permeate itself using those same market dynamics.
[2015-11-09 04:16:50] Murch : Back in here we go
[2015-11-09 04:17:02] floopfloop : Murch: short or long?
[2015-11-09 04:17:09] Murch : Long
[2015-11-09 04:17:18] floopfloop : at 373? lol
[2015-11-09 04:17:29] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Same here
[2015-11-09 04:17:30] Murch : 374 actually
[2015-11-09 04:18:22] Murch : What's a good next target?
[2015-11-09 04:18:46] floopfloop : 350
[2015-11-09 04:18:51] SnackyCoins : ^
[2015-11-09 04:18:58] SnackyCoins : beat me to it floop lol
[2015-11-09 04:19:03] Murch : Seems legit
[2015-11-09 04:19:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 2496 I'm thinking @Murch
[2015-11-09 04:19:06] floopfloop : free
[2015-11-09 04:19:19] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: I tend to agree
[2015-11-09 04:19:22] floopfloop : YOU GET A BITCOIN YOU GET A BITCOIN
[2015-11-09 04:19:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Past that 2520
[2015-11-09 04:19:36] SnackyCoins : huobi hoobin
[2015-11-09 04:19:40] SnackyCoins : stamp stampin'
[2015-11-09 04:19:48] SnackyCoins : MEX ARRRIBA!!
[2015-11-09 04:20:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'm out though
[2015-11-09 04:20:34] Murch : Yep got out
[2015-11-09 04:20:42] Murch : And short half
[2015-11-09 04:21:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Interesting. I'm looking to long again once 2500 is borken, otherwise short
[2015-11-09 04:21:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *broken
[2015-11-09 04:21:26] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Yep exactly
[2015-11-09 04:21:37] Swedishnut : crazy if it hit 3345 again :P
[2015-11-09 04:21:51] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Good think there's no confirmation bias going on here ;)
[2015-11-09 04:22:01] Murch : Hahahah surely not
[2015-11-09 04:22:31] SnackyCoins : https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CJWRboRUcAApD8W.mp4
[2015-11-09 04:23:08] Murch : lmao
[2015-11-09 04:23:20] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : hahaha
[2015-11-09 04:24:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Nice short Murch
[2015-11-09 04:24:48] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: thanks :D
[2015-11-09 04:26:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I'll probably short if the channel is broken on volume but not before then
[2015-11-09 04:26:43] Murch : Gonna cover/rebuy soon I think
[2015-11-09 04:27:45] Murch : Covered, still looking for a better entry
[2015-11-09 04:28:31] SnackyCoins : did you just get in and out of 2 positions? :)
[2015-11-09 04:28:58] Murch : I think I just got in and out of like 38 positions dude =_=
[2015-11-09 04:29:12] SnackyCoins : perhaps you should try zooming out on your charts 8)
[2015-11-09 04:29:31] Murch : SnackyCoins: dats not how 100x leveraged futures work :DDD
[2015-11-09 04:29:40] SnackyCoins : lol
[2015-11-09 04:29:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : It can work that way, but scalping is more fun
[2015-11-09 04:29:55] mikeh : if i add to my position is it averaged out or are they kept separate somehow for diff liquidation points etc
[2015-11-09 04:30:16] SnackyCoins : you're averaged in
[2015-11-09 04:30:24] mikeh : cool
[2015-11-09 04:30:31] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: ye, the sad truth
[2015-11-09 04:30:33] mikeh : that might help with my shitty short position :)
[2015-11-09 04:31:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : mikeh: Careful with adding to a losing position
[2015-11-09 04:31:33] Swedishnut : yeah you can can zapped quick
[2015-11-09 04:35:17] Murch : Buying here
[2015-11-09 04:35:22] Murch : Hope I'm reading this correctly
[2015-11-09 04:35:37] mikeh : i think dump soon :]
[2015-11-09 04:36:18] Swedishnut : idk I think considate to 375 then 365 to 395 and a fight to 400 until thursday
[2015-11-09 04:36:56] Swedishnut : if to 345 then reverse to 325, 312, 299.97
[2015-11-09 04:37:21] mikeh : yea i dunno, you would have done well to watch me and do the opposite
[2015-11-09 04:37:49] Swedishnut : outliers by malcom gladwell is a good read for this situation
[2015-11-09 04:37:53] mikeh : lately... weird how this chat keeps cutting out
[2015-11-09 04:38:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Swedishnut: I'll find a copy and come back when the price has changed by $100 ;)
[2015-11-09 04:38:41] Swedishnut : this might be one of the few places to predict and win btc so ddos is likely where money is involved
[2015-11-09 04:40:05] ohmannomma : again a dodgy liquidation
[2015-11-09 04:40:20] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : ohmannomma: Again, email support
[2015-11-09 04:40:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Although they can not teach you to manage risk
[2015-11-09 04:40:52] Swedishnut : I told my church how to use btc for missionaries and they are having me set it up this week. pretty excited to see the congregation stumle around and buy to send to those they pray for
[2015-11-09 04:41:10] ohmannomma : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: no email support.. it must not happen
[2015-11-09 04:41:11] Swedishnut : qr code w pic and a goal
[2015-11-09 04:41:25] ohmannomma : im not this site's accountant..
[2015-11-09 04:42:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 5 minute cup and handle anyone? lol
[2015-11-09 04:43:35] Swedishnut : 7 Deadly Sins on Netflix is worth watching btw
[2015-11-09 04:44:31] Murch : lol I think cup and handles follow rises
[2015-11-09 04:45:04] Murch : But I see the shape you're talking about
[2015-11-09 04:45:28] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Oh yeah. My bad
[2015-11-09 04:45:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : It was sort of a joke though just because people see them everywhere
[2015-11-09 04:46:12] Murch : Oh ahah I gotcha yeah people fitting all sorts of crazy stuff on r/bitcoinmarkets
[2015-11-09 04:46:33] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Yep haha
[2015-11-09 04:47:00] Murch : I don't think I've ever seen a valid cup and handle play on BTC it's weird
[2015-11-09 04:47:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Out of my long. Should have closed that one earlier
[2015-11-09 04:47:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Should have never opened it. Should have shorted lol
[2015-11-09 04:47:26] Murch : Ouch yeah I'm in one now that I should have closed
[2015-11-09 04:48:22] Murch : Yep had to sell there :(
[2015-11-09 04:48:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: You still can unless you think it's going to bounce
[2015-11-09 04:48:27] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : :(*
[2015-11-09 04:48:54] Murch : I do think it's going to bounce I just positioned myself terribly
[2015-11-09 04:49:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Me too. It happens
[2015-11-09 04:49:43] Murch : Well shit
[2015-11-09 04:49:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Wish this was still around but it's archived
[2015-11-09 04:49:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : https://web.archive.org/web/20150413081508/http://www.coinion.com/
[2015-11-09 04:49:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : If you want a laugh
[2015-11-09 04:50:47] floopfloop : time to cash out the short?
[2015-11-09 04:51:02] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: Sounds good to me
[2015-11-09 04:51:14] Murch : looool BITCOIN EXCHANGE LEGITXCHANGE.RU DISAPPEARS
[2015-11-09 04:51:20] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Hahaha I know
[2015-11-09 04:51:21] Swedishnut : 50.7% is pretty good
[2015-11-09 04:51:30] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Swedishnut: Nice
[2015-11-09 04:55:07] Murch : gonna try to buy in here
[2015-11-09 04:55:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: One step ahead of you :) Let's hope this one works
[2015-11-09 04:55:53] Murch : Yep yep
[2015-11-09 05:00:18] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Might have to get out again :(
[2015-11-09 05:00:28] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Holding on for now
[2015-11-09 05:05:27] Murch : Good call man
[2015-11-09 05:06:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Thanks. Not totally free yet though
[2015-11-09 05:06:59] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Market seems to be acting bullish again. We'll see
[2015-11-09 05:08:02] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Sounds good to me
[2015-11-09 05:24:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Still holding strong Murch?
[2015-11-09 05:24:57] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Yup, this is an annoying position
[2015-11-09 05:25:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: It is. Really testing my patience haha
[2015-11-09 05:25:18] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I think I'm looking at a higher low though
[2015-11-09 05:25:44] Murch : Yep me too. Gonna set some alarms and eat dinner
[2015-11-09 05:26:33] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Have a good dinner
[2015-11-09 05:26:44] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Thanks man, I'll talk to you later
[2015-11-09 06:35:52] dorothy490 : hmmm
[2015-11-09 06:36:00] dorothy490 : ADMIIIINS!
[2015-11-09 06:37:56] floopfloop : ?
[2015-11-09 06:42:18] dorothy490 : does big market makers have access to the orders of other users?
[2015-11-09 06:42:30] dorothy490 : seems like that filthy marker maker front running me
[2015-11-09 06:42:33] dorothy490 : 2 times
[2015-11-09 06:42:55] SnackyCoins : everyone has access to the orders 8)
[2015-11-09 06:43:01] SnackyCoins : they're in the book right there
[2015-11-09 06:43:20] dorothy490 : talking about market orders
[2015-11-09 06:43:51] SnackyCoins : don't market close. those bots are whipping in and out nonstop, just look at the orderbook dance around
[2015-11-09 06:44:06] dorothy490 : I did 2 market orders looking at the nearest ask and typing exactly that ask & amount. and 2 times before execution asks was filled just before me for the amount I wanted
[2015-11-09 06:44:53] floopfloop : dorothy490: would you like some cheese?
[2015-11-09 06:45:00] dorothy490 : seems like fronrunning is in place. or there was 2 coincident cases
[2015-11-09 06:45:27] SnackyCoins : did you look in the recent trades?
[2015-11-09 06:45:36] floopfloop : dorothy490: Would you like some cheese?
[2015-11-09 06:45:42] dorothy490 : some exchanges allow market maker access to the other user market order execution so they can decide if they want frontrun this user
[2015-11-09 06:46:16] dorothy490 : yes I did and I was watching ask, typed that ask & amount, pressed button, 1 sec lag, and I see that my order becoems bid. 2 times
[2015-11-09 06:46:31] SnackyCoins : when the market moves, people eat orders and they get pulled quick. it is not very liquid
[2015-11-09 06:46:51] SnackyCoins : that happens to me all the time.. not odd
[2015-11-09 06:46:56] dorothy490 : I I had 2 coincidences hence my question
[2015-11-09 06:47:13] floopfloop : so much whining
[2015-11-09 06:47:16] dorothy490 : SnackyCoins: it jsut adds suspicion that they're frontrunning
[2015-11-09 06:48:10] SnackyCoins : yeah. i don't think it's happening.
[2015-11-09 06:49:34] floopfloop : dorothy490: go to okcoin, I am sure there will be no problems there
[2015-11-09 06:50:12] SnackyCoins : wordfilter makes it sound mean lol
[2015-11-09 06:50:37] BitMEX_Wally : Hey guys
[2015-11-09 06:50:43] BitMEX_Wally : Market makers cannot front run anyone
[2015-11-09 06:51:02] dorothy490 : floopfloop: whats wrong with you.? you prefer "close your eyes" on that case, if it's appear real?
[2015-11-09 06:52:09] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: Please email details to support@bitmex.com
[2015-11-09 06:52:27] floopfloop : dorothy490: LOL @ appear real
[2015-11-09 06:52:36] floopfloop : 2 times. Must be rigged.
[2015-11-09 06:53:04] floopfloop : SnackyCoins: i didnt know about that word for the filter. That is hilarious
[2015-11-09 06:54:38] SnackyCoins : i mean it all comes down to who do you trust with your money. you can either trust the hunks of bitmex, or this guy http://i.imgur.com/zlcvnTF.jpg
[2015-11-09 06:55:28] SnackyCoins : easy choice for me 8)
[2015-11-09 06:57:11] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: I see that at 2015.11.09 06:35:27 the offer was 5000 @ 368.53. This offer was canceled at 2015.11.09 06:35:34. Then at 06:35:36 you submitted a buy 3500 @ 368.53
[2015-11-09 06:58:16] dorothy490 : these 2 orders 2015-11-09 09:41:59 2015-11-09 09:35:36
[2015-11-09 06:58:32] dorothy490 : ok perhaps its slow updating of the recent trades/orderbook
[2015-11-09 06:59:00] floopfloop : SnackyCoins: exacltly. People are always looking for a reason to bitch
[2015-11-09 07:00:09] dorothy490 : floopfloop: several exchanges really suspectable of fronrunning ITBIT even has it stated somewhere in their policies
[2015-11-09 07:01:45] dorothy490 : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/358wcb/itbits_exchange_allows_frontrunning/
[2015-11-09 07:03:04] SnackyCoins : shit pretty craycray in bitcoinland
[2015-11-09 07:03:22] BitMEX_Wally : We publish all order book and trade data in real time over the WebSocket, so it would be very obvious if a market maker was able to cancel a quote 1 millisecond before a user submitted order
[2015-11-09 07:03:40] SnackyCoins : I am trying really hard not to shill CFD right now :P
[2015-11-09 07:04:32] BitMEX_Wally : CFD means that you're betting against the house and the house gets to charge you the spread and push the price around to liquidate you?
[2015-11-09 07:05:26] SnackyCoins : Yeah, it's not good trading :P just low hanging reflink fruit, but I don't wish to pollute the channel :)
[2015-11-09 07:05:39] SnackyCoins : also I want the liquidity to stay ;)
[2015-11-09 07:06:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: That sounds like OKCoin to me :p
[2015-11-09 07:06:51] laisee : no need for CFD, OKC offers all those 'features'.
[2015-11-09 07:06:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : laisee: Exactly
[2015-11-09 07:07:14] SnackyCoins : lol yeah you can play against the house at okc too ;)
[2015-11-09 07:07:45] SnackyCoins : right click -> margincall user
[2015-11-09 07:08:53] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Pretty much
[2015-11-09 07:09:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : "Yes it wasn't exact, but it was close enough to your margin call price by our super special calculations"
[2015-11-09 07:10:43] SnackyCoins : futures don't even settle to index over there
[2015-11-09 07:10:56] SnackyCoins : i could have swore they used to
[2015-11-09 07:11:05] SnackyCoins : but either way they don't now
[2015-11-09 07:11:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: I've heard. I tried it briefly before noticing how rigged it seems
[2015-11-09 07:11:43] SnackyCoins : yeah i quit playing okc btc futures long ago
[2015-11-09 07:12:47] SnackyCoins : ltc is not as bad
[2015-11-09 07:13:28] laisee : I prefer casinos with free drinks, buffet and a show.
[2015-11-09 07:13:32] SnackyCoins : more leverage on ltc here 8)
[2015-11-09 07:14:16] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Liquidity though :(
[2015-11-09 07:14:48] SnackyCoins : it's getting better
[2015-11-09 07:15:30] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : It's a bummer that OKC is good at faking liquidity because everyone trades there and honest exchanges like BitMEX don't attract the same number of customers because of their honesty
[2015-11-09 07:15:52] SnackyCoins : i mean, it's gotten temporarily worse, but that's just the market at the moment (same story everywhere)
[2015-11-09 07:16:21] laisee : keeps building here, which is nice
[2015-11-09 07:16:38] SnackyCoins : yep, having maker/taker fees gets rid of wash trading while still being attractive to MM's
[2015-11-09 07:16:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : It's definitely getting better here. I'm not going anywhere else
[2015-11-09 07:17:08] laisee : anyways - dealing with liquidity is part of trading IMHO. No such thing as a free (liquid) lunch.
[2015-11-09 07:17:29] SnackyCoins : yep it comes and goes
[2015-11-09 07:17:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : laisee: That's a good point. If you can't handle lower liquidity than you may not have be planning trades well
[2015-11-09 07:17:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Something I need to work on for sure :p
[2015-11-09 07:18:01] SnackyCoins : also i mean we just had a huge rally
[2015-11-09 07:18:04] SnackyCoins : rekt a lot of people
[2015-11-09 07:18:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Yep
[2015-11-09 07:18:54] SnackyCoins : $3 used to be the one big move of the day, now there's multiple $20 moves daily
[2015-11-09 07:19:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : How would a market maker deal with high volatility other than widening their spread? It seems like it would be easy to get stuck in a losing position with no recourse?
[2015-11-09 07:19:19] SnackyCoins : thats pretty much it
[2015-11-09 07:20:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Would a market maker program be wise to take a loss by closing into the book to prevent a larger loss
[2015-11-09 07:20:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : ?
[2015-11-09 07:20:31] laisee : Did some work b4 on trading 3rd wold debt. Traders would spend all day looking for enough lliquidity to get in/out of positions. BTC is easier than that ...
[2015-11-09 07:21:16] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : laisee: Wow. I mean I didn't imagine BTC was the most illiquid market but that sounds extremely challenging
[2015-11-09 07:21:42] laisee : quite tough, but very profitable.
[2015-11-09 07:22:36] SnackyCoins : real-world shitcoins, lol
[2015-11-09 07:22:42] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: hahaha
[2015-11-09 07:23:25] laisee : yeah, some of them were ...
[2015-11-09 07:23:29] BitMEX_Wally : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: A market maker can widen their spread, skew their quotes, and hedge with spot
[2015-11-09 07:24:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Wally: I imagine skewing is just quoting one side wider than the other, right? And how would hedging with spot work?
[2015-11-09 07:24:26] BitMEX_Wally : If a market maker is short future he can go and buy spot
[2015-11-09 07:24:35] BitMEX_Wally : So he can reduce his net exposure
[2015-11-09 07:25:10] BitMEX_Wally : Then if the price goes up he will make money on the spot position to cover the losses on the future
[2015-11-09 07:25:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Wally: Ohh got it, and since a market maker is only trying to capture the spread, hedging doesn't nullify the profit
[2015-11-09 07:25:47] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, a market maker is not trying to take a position in any particular direction
[2015-11-09 07:26:31] billyboy402 : why is tradeblock index price 372 but the xbt price is 367?
[2015-11-09 07:26:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Wally: Makes sense. Thanks for the explanation
[2015-11-09 07:26:50] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : billyboy402: Where do you see the xbt price?
[2015-11-09 07:27:12] BitMEX_Wally : billyboy402: Yes, I do not see 367
[2015-11-09 07:27:45] billyboy402 : nvm i had to refresh the page , seem like the price was right , but chat and xbt spot was lagging
[2015-11-09 07:31:21] floopfloop : BitMEX_Wally: hey
[2015-11-09 07:31:36] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Ok I'm just making bad decisions at this point. I will be content with my profit and get some rest
[2015-11-09 07:31:46] BitMEX_Wally : floopfloop: Hello
[2015-11-09 07:31:56] floopfloop : BitMEX_Wally: if I have 1.37 balance and .68 available with the difference in the withheld margin, is that still my balance?
[2015-11-09 07:32:16] floopfloop : BitMEX_Wally: withheld profit I should say
[2015-11-09 07:32:22] BitMEX_Wally : floopfloop: You can view a complete breakdown here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet
[2015-11-09 07:32:42] floopfloop : yeah I know
[2015-11-09 07:32:43] BitMEX_Wally : Your total worth, i.e. equity is `Wallet Balance +/ Unrealised PNL`
[2015-11-09 07:32:54] floopfloop : ahhh ok
[2015-11-09 07:32:58] BitMEX_Wally : The withheld profit is yours, you just can't touch it
[2015-11-09 07:33:13] floopfloop : BitMEX_Wally: ok cool. just making sure
[2015-11-09 07:33:16] BitMEX_Wally : :)
[2015-11-09 08:08:15] podizzler3k : so the rally is officially over
[2015-11-09 08:08:25] podizzler3k : no more hopium? :(
[2015-11-09 08:14:44] dorothy490 : does profit on weekly+ futures adjustment adjusts on weekly basis or on daily?
[2015-11-09 08:23:31] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: Hi Wally! I noticed that I receive instrument state Closed followed by Open even though it's not settlement time yet. Does it indicate trading session end?
[2015-11-09 08:49:50] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: Yes, the instrument goes 'Closed' briefly after each 8 hour sesssion
[2015-11-09 08:50:31] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: that's what I thought, thanks
[2015-11-09 08:56:00] slavo : hi there. I was wondering if orders on xbt24h can be rolled over after contract expires
[2015-11-09 09:01:06] dorothy490 : BitMEX_Wally: I read yesterday that if I will be trading only via limit orders I'd get no comission? or I misunderstood?
[2015-11-09 09:03:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : There is no fee if you do not open or close a position into existing orders
[2015-11-09 09:04:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : So placing a limit ask above the highes bid or a limit bid below the lowest ask does not incur a fee
[2015-11-09 09:06:02] BitMEX_Wally : Correct :)
[2015-11-09 09:06:05] dorothy490 : flashing asks on XLT7D.. even though who cares :)
[2015-11-09 09:22:01] roymalmberg : BitMEX_Wally: "grossValue":239990, is this equal to volume?
[2015-11-09 09:22:36] BitMEX_Wally : grossValue is the cash value in the settlCurrency, i.e. `XBt`
[2015-11-09 09:22:38] BitMEX_Wally : (Satoshi)
[2015-11-09 09:23:06] roymalmberg : is that the value used for volume calculations aswell?
[2015-11-09 09:23:12] BitMEX_Wally : `volume` is the sum of contracts traded
[2015-11-09 09:23:20] BitMEX_Wally : `turnover` is the sum of value traded
[2015-11-09 09:24:27] roymalmberg : BitMEX_Wally: okay, the "size" would be number of contracts in a trade i would base volume on
[2015-11-09 09:24:31] roymalmberg : then*
[2015-11-09 09:24:38] roymalmberg : thank you
[2015-11-09 09:24:42] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2015-11-09 09:25:08] BitMEX_Wally : Unfortunately various standards have emerged but qty == size == volume (i.e. all measured in contracts)
[2015-11-09 09:25:37] BitMEX_Wally : value == turnover (i.e. all measured in Satoshis)
[2015-11-09 09:26:30] BitMEX_Wally : `homeNotional` is in the `underlying` (i.e. whole `XBT` or `XLT`)
[2015-11-09 09:26:44] BitMEX_Wally : `foreignNotional` is in the `quoteCurrency (i.e. whole `USD` or `XBT`)
[2015-11-09 09:30:15] roymalmberg : okay :)
[2015-11-09 10:02:45] amirmass : whats the minimum btc required to play in okcoin casino?
[2015-11-09 10:04:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : amirmass: All of it. They'll take no less :p
[2015-11-09 10:07:33] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I think it's 0.001but I'm not sure. If you have an account look at the deposit section and it should tell you
[2015-11-09 10:51:35] justinlooking : mfw h16 trades 644
[2015-11-09 10:58:16] BitMEX_Wally : Very few contracts traded at that price
[2015-11-09 10:59:42] justinlooking : hi wally, is there some gigantic buy stop waiting to go off in H16?
[2015-11-09 10:59:54] justinlooking : if you stuck in a big enough offer, would the system fill it?
[2015-11-09 11:00:15] justinlooking : i've read the DPE page 5 times, cannot figure out wtf is going on...
[2015-11-09 11:02:06] dorothy490 : justinlooking: stops wouldnt be showing in the books
[2015-11-09 11:04:41] justinlooking : dorothy490: sure, but i believe it's a system stop
[2015-11-09 11:07:53] dorothy490 : you talking about 2500 contracts?
[2015-11-09 11:13:50] kogroken : wow, 45% DPE on H16 :/
[2015-11-09 11:14:17] BitMEX_Wally : justinlooking: Buy and sell stops are not shown in the book,
[2015-11-09 11:15:16] BitMEX_Wally : The system took over a large short position in XBTH16 that is at a loss. There is a bid for 27600 @ 467.69
[2015-11-09 11:16:06] BitMEX_Wally : If you fill this order the DPE will go to 0% :)
[2015-11-09 11:16:48] kogroken : Well, I rather take half the profits than close at a loss :P
[2015-11-09 11:17:45] BitMEX_Wally : XBT24H counts for 90% of our liquidity and XBT7D for 9% of our liquidity. No-one seems to want to trade XBTZ15 or XBTH16
[2015-11-09 11:18:36] kogroken : I guess they are for more patient traders.
[2015-11-09 11:18:57] kendang : BitMEX_Wally: can you tell us how many registered traders bitmex has?
[2015-11-09 11:19:13] BitMEX_Wally : Thousands
[2015-11-09 11:19:47] kogroken : Chinese quarterly futures used to be very thin too a year ago, now they are pretty liquid. Give it time :)
[2015-11-09 11:20:00] kendang : kogroken: on okcoin?
[2015-11-09 11:20:10] kogroken : yeah
[2015-11-09 11:20:43] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Wally: Do you plan to reduce trading costs for members with very high turnover? Like the usual bitcon markets do?
[2015-11-09 11:21:11] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : TschavaTschigger: It's already 0% fee for people adding liquidity to the book
[2015-11-09 11:21:46] podizzler3k : good morning usa
[2015-11-09 11:21:53] podizzler3k : moon liftoff?
[2015-11-09 11:22:10] habibi : hey guys
[2015-11-09 11:22:30] kogroken : It's banking day, so some dollars should hit the exchanges today.
[2015-11-09 11:22:38] Scottv53 : morning Folks!
[2015-11-09 11:22:49] podizzler3k : lets hope it happens in the next 35 minutes so 24hr settles nice and high
[2015-11-09 11:22:59] podizzler3k : next 20 minutes considering the time weight thing
[2015-11-09 11:23:03] kogroken : On the other hand, the auction coins should be sent out to winners today.
[2015-11-09 11:23:20] podizzler3k : kogroken those coins are always sat on historically
[2015-11-09 11:23:52] podizzler3k : would be quite random for someone to make an investment in bulk coins only to dump them for menial profit
[2015-11-09 11:24:22] kogroken : podizzler3k: Well, if a syndicate won the auction with a low bid, then the members would likely sell.
[2015-11-09 11:24:23] kendang : which auction coins are you talking about? silk road?
[2015-11-09 11:24:28] kogroken : At least some of them.
[2015-11-09 11:24:34] podizzler3k : yes the final silk road coins
[2015-11-09 11:24:37] kogroken : kendang: Yeah
[2015-11-09 11:24:55] habibi : https://blockchain.info/pl/address/1GVJSUUUfjm9BRQsM25NFtBHJoNfX5icGw still save and calm
[2015-11-09 11:25:05] kogroken : But if it's someone like Dapper, then it's likely they'll hold.
[2015-11-09 11:25:15] TschavaTschigger : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: I know, but that wasn't my question. I am asking if people with high turnover get better rates than people with low turnover.
[2015-11-09 11:25:16] habibi : wake up bitmex
[2015-11-09 11:25:17] podizzler3k : dapper?
[2015-11-09 11:25:27] podizzler3k : if youre talking about tim draper he said he didnt bid
[2015-11-09 11:25:28] habibi : tim dapper
[2015-11-09 11:25:34] kogroken : podizzler3k: The guy who won the first auction(s)
[2015-11-09 11:25:37] habibi : bought a bunch of coins in previous auctions
[2015-11-09 11:25:41] podizzler3k : yeah he didnt bid
[2015-11-09 11:25:46] kogroken : large investor guy.
[2015-11-09 11:25:53] podizzler3k : genesis trading group admitted they bid
[2015-11-09 11:25:57] podizzler3k : whoever they are
[2015-11-09 11:26:04] podizzler3k : and some one else came out i forget one sec
[2015-11-09 11:26:14] kogroken : true, but I meant the general type (large strong-handed investor)
[2015-11-09 11:26:55] podizzler3k : Genesis Trading Launches as First Broker-Dealer Specializing in Digital Currency Trading
[2015-11-09 11:27:01] podizzler3k : sounds like someone who would dump heh
[2015-11-09 11:27:49] podizzler3k : wow nice buys
[2015-11-09 11:28:00] podizzler3k : we're gonna end up exactly where we were 24hr ago
[2015-11-09 11:29:19] jung1 : I dont know. I have some strange feeling that dump is comming before '16 pump
[2015-11-09 11:29:57] kogroken : Nice spike up.
[2015-11-09 11:30:13] habibi : i think we will go for some 390 testing again in next hours
[2015-11-09 11:30:28] podizzler3k : some random ass company that has no public face won the last auction
[2015-11-09 11:30:30] podizzler3k : https://cumberlandmining.com/
[2015-11-09 11:30:34] podizzler3k : secretive
[2015-11-09 11:30:40] podizzler3k : probably trying to avoid taxes
[2015-11-09 11:30:47] gaoMex : podizzler3k: source?
[2015-11-09 11:31:03] podizzler3k : http://www.coindesk.com/secretive-mining-firm-revealed-as-possible-us-marshals-auction-winner/
[2015-11-09 11:31:06] podizzler3k : that was back in march
[2015-11-09 11:31:10] podizzler3k : not the one from friday
[2015-11-09 11:31:14] podizzler3k : so they will probably bid again
[2015-11-09 11:31:45] habibi : lel...
[2015-11-09 11:31:52] habibi : who cares about march auction
[2015-11-09 11:33:06] podizzler3k : i dont
[2015-11-09 11:33:12] podizzler3k : a lot of people care about this one for some reason
[2015-11-09 11:33:23] podizzler3k : when theyve already have 5 or so that have not affected the price at all
[2015-11-09 11:33:33] podizzler3k : next leg up!
[2015-11-09 11:33:55] gaoMex : This price rise is some crazy shit
[2015-11-09 11:34:06] gaoMex : no sign at all
[2015-11-09 11:34:13] habibi : markets seems to be bullish again
[2015-11-09 11:34:27] habibi : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: hello mate, how was murch long at night?
[2015-11-09 11:35:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: Was great until I screwed myself by shorting
[2015-11-09 11:35:28] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Still in profit but not by much
[2015-11-09 11:36:18] habibi : ah yea i am happy that night was pretty calm after it get out from <2440 levels
[2015-11-09 11:36:28] mikeh : yea i had a freaking short from 360 earlier, worst timing for a pump, right before settlement
[2015-11-09 11:36:36] habibi : 2440 lvls
[2015-11-09 11:37:17] habibi : 15 minutes vol hits really highs
[2015-11-09 11:37:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: Yep it was crazy
[2015-11-09 11:37:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I tried to get in front of the train. Such a bad idea :p
[2015-11-09 11:38:13] habibi : i mean look now at hobi 30 min vol 12.00
[2015-11-09 11:38:27] billyboy402 : why cant you place a short on the dailt at 390 ?
[2015-11-09 11:38:45] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: I know it's insane
[2015-11-09 11:38:56] habibi : u can if u will use cross margin
[2015-11-09 11:39:04] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : You can, but you won't see it in the 5 level orderbook right now
[2015-11-09 11:39:07] habibi : otherwise in isolated margin position would be instantly closed
[2015-11-09 11:39:28] habibi : ah no, sorry
[2015-11-09 11:39:34] habibi : long would be closed
[2015-11-09 11:39:37] habibi : nvm
[2015-11-09 11:46:19] Scottv53 : shit i forgot about settlement Just went short huge!
[2015-11-09 11:48:49] habibi : 4246?
[2015-11-09 11:50:02] kendang : Scottv53: i feel your pain
[2015-11-09 11:56:26] billyboy402 : who the noob that just brought daily up to .383.80 thanks
[2015-11-09 12:01:47] loke : Does anyone know whats causing these wild fluctuations in XBTH16 Mark Price?
[2015-11-09 12:03:04] kogroken : Someone just market sold about 3000 contracts on H16. Seems that bought down the mark price as well.
[2015-11-09 12:04:03] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: fair price is fixed with settlement price?
[2015-11-09 12:04:49] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: The fair price will decay to the settlement price
[2015-11-09 12:05:13] habibi : yea but why now its not :p?
[2015-11-09 12:05:13] BitMEX_Wally : i.e. fairPrice = indicativeSettlePrice * fairBasisRate * (daysToExpiry / 365)
[2015-11-09 12:05:30] habibi : ah timeframe
[2015-11-09 12:05:32] habibi : 30 minutes?
[2015-11-09 12:05:41] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: Which instrument are you looking at?
[2015-11-09 12:05:46] habibi : 24h
[2015-11-09 12:06:33] BitMEX_Wally : After re-listing the fairBasisRate is reset to 0
[2015-11-09 12:06:42] BitMEX_Wally : IT will be adjusted soon to match where the contract is trading
[2015-11-09 12:07:22] habibi : yea now it jumped
[2015-11-09 12:07:42] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah, we have some announcements coming that will help the mark price be more transparent
[2015-11-09 12:08:21] loke : BitMEX_Wally: Does the trading price on XBTH16 influence the Fair Price?
[2015-11-09 12:08:37] BitMEX_Wally : loke: Yes
[2015-11-09 12:08:58] loke : BitMEX_Wally: Many thanks. That explains everything.
[2015-11-09 12:49:09] mitzip : the idea that once I click isolate margin on a position days ago... all my other future orders on that contract should be isolate margin is not intuitive... :(
[2015-11-09 12:51:43] mitzip : wasn't expecting new orders to be isolate margin... I'd used isolate margin on a profitable position so I could get some sleep... now due to the unexpected isolate margin setting (none of my other positions ever were isolate margin)
[2015-11-09 12:52:24] mitzip : I got my first liquidation notice
[2015-11-09 12:53:21] mitzip : luckily it was a small position... but it was an $80 lesson learned that doesn't put a smile on my face :( <-- see
[2015-11-09 12:53:54] BitMEX_Wally : mitzip: Sorry to hear that. We decided to remember the setting so users would not be surprised by it changing
[2015-11-09 12:54:22] mitzip : I'd never used it before, so it was a suprise to me that it remembered
[2015-11-09 12:55:16] BitMEX_Wally : In the Order Controls there is an 'Order Options' drop down where you can toggle 'Isolate' or 'Cross' before opening the position
[2015-11-09 12:55:31] dorothy490 : BitMEX_Wally: say I have open position on cross margin mode at x100. Price goes 2% in oposite direction of my original order. Now I cant change to isolated margin essentially, even If I have huge cross. That should be addressed/fixed
[2015-11-09 12:56:03] dorothy490 : need a way to isolate margin on opened position even if its on cross mode yet
[2015-11-09 12:56:12] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: What happens when you try and enable Isolate Margin in that situation?
[2015-11-09 12:56:24] dorothy490 : BitMEX_Wally: dont want to test but I suppose liquidation
[2015-11-09 12:56:30] dorothy490 : or it wouldn't let me to isolate
[2015-11-09 12:56:35] BitMEX_Wally : It won't liquidate you :)
[2015-11-09 12:56:55] BitMEX_Wally : It will put in the original 0.5% plus enough to cover the losses
[2015-11-09 12:56:59] BitMEX_Wally : Click isolate and see :)
[2015-11-09 12:57:05] podizzler3k_ : how can i add margin to a position on mobile
[2015-11-09 12:57:09] dorothy490 : already klikked
[2015-11-09 12:57:23] dorothy490 : I had less then 1% diff though
[2015-11-09 12:57:40] dorothy490 : ok I see your point
[2015-11-09 12:58:09] BitMEX_Wally : podizzler3k_: I recommend you enable cross margin if you cannot use the buttons on mobile. We'll look into it
[2015-11-09 12:59:28] podizzler3k_ : ok thanks or at least give me the option to use the normal desktop site. if i click request desktop site it stays the same
[2015-11-09 12:59:51] mitzip : BitMEX_Wally: well I guess the best I can say about this situation is thank you for the quick response
[2015-11-09 13:22:06] amirmass : where u guys shorting?
[2015-11-09 13:22:20] redlose : i am
[2015-11-09 13:23:11] kendang : me too
[2015-11-09 13:24:39] amirmass : 389?