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[2015-11-09 13:24:42] amirmass : or higher
[2015-11-09 13:24:59] kendang : i shorted @391
[2015-11-09 13:25:11] amirmass : x100 ?
[2015-11-09 13:28:45] TschavaTschigger : anybody wanna grab my 18k sell at 7D? :D
[2015-11-09 13:29:59] kendang : no thanks :-)
[2015-11-09 13:49:57] gustavo7 : going down already?
[2015-11-09 14:27:23] gustavo7 : judas swing!
[2015-11-09 14:41:16] podizzler3k_ : heres an article where the mmm scammer takes credit for btc's rise. i need to post the google link otherwise it will make you subscribe before reading
[2015-11-09 14:41:19] podizzler3k_ : https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CBsQqQIoADAAahUKEwik1f7kxYPJAhWBlB4KHVHFAFs&url=http%3A%2F%2Fftalphaville.ft.com%2F2015%2F11%2F09%2F2144388%2Fim-no-crook-declares-mmm-scamster-while-claiming-credit-for-the-bitcoin-price-spike%2F&usg=AFQjCNGcVtZ_sQz-NL1s0fCzoxWoZNbpMA&sig2=6OUMGn5GnQuCZaS8k4ZFKw
[2015-11-09 14:46:15] podizzler3k_ : really wish i could add some margin to my position but bitmex is blocked at work and its not available on mobile
[2015-11-09 14:47:02] podizzler3k_ : feeling like i just went bungee jumping without a bungee cord
[2015-11-09 14:47:20] podizzler3k_ : i see the evil isolate check button is available
[2015-11-09 14:53:57] STRML : podizzler3k_: You can't add margin if the position isn't isolated
[2015-11-09 14:54:15] podizzler3k_ : oh ?
[2015-11-09 14:54:24] STRML : Yeah, it's already using all your margin if not isolated
[2015-11-09 14:54:26] STRML : There's nothing more to add
[2015-11-09 14:54:34] podizzler3k_ : yeah i guess that makes sense
[2015-11-09 14:54:37] podizzler3k_ : i swear ive done it before
[2015-11-09 14:54:42] STRML : You haven't :)
[2015-11-09 14:54:59] podizzler3k_ : ill have to wait until after work to know for sure
[2015-11-09 14:55:05] STRML : It wouldn't make any sense to add more margin on a cross-margin position.
[2015-11-09 14:56:14] podizzler3k_ : yeah i suppose not
[2015-11-09 14:56:31] podizzler3k_ : ill just have to shrink my position
[2015-11-09 14:56:35] podizzler3k_ : which is upsetting
[2015-11-09 14:56:44] sleger : or deposit more
[2015-11-09 14:57:02] podizzler3k_ : true true
[2015-11-09 14:57:43] podizzler3k_ : or just ride it out and hope it doesnt dump to 383
[2015-11-09 14:58:03] podizzler3k_ : thats not really possible tho. seems rock solid at 385
[2015-11-09 15:00:29] babybaby : go long
[2015-11-09 15:05:25] habibi : babybaby: http://image.blingee.com/images18/content/output/000/000/000/790/770024890_1111300.gif?4
[2015-11-09 15:05:47] babybaby : never :D
[2015-11-09 15:12:03] babybaby : habibi: http://i.imgur.com/pYdrcDb.png
[2015-11-09 15:31:39] hashman : open positions tab not updating?
[2015-11-09 15:32:21] hashman : "no data" on open positions -
[2015-11-09 15:32:37] podizzler3k_ : well this is awkward
[2015-11-09 15:37:41] hashman : anyone else got this issue? "No Data." under the open positions tab?
[2015-11-09 15:40:04] BitMEX_Sam : Looking into it
[2015-11-09 15:40:15] hashman : thxs sam
[2015-11-09 15:45:39] BitMEX_Sam : hashman: Please refresh, taken care of
[2015-11-09 16:08:53] amirmass : DUUMMPPP IT
[2015-11-09 16:09:43] jung1 : XBT (276.38%)
[2015-11-09 16:09:54] jung1 : ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-11-09 16:11:24] stf28 : jung1: well done !!
[2015-11-09 16:11:35] BitMEX_Sam : Nice one
[2015-11-09 16:12:55] amirmass : dont panic buy yet, more down incoming
[2015-11-09 16:13:03] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: I thought I would have my withheld profit back this morning after the settlement, can you shed some light on this?
[2015-11-09 16:13:16] BitMEX_Sam : floopfloop: Is some of that withheld profit in XBT7D?
[2015-11-09 16:13:22] amirmass : 376 incoming
[2015-11-09 16:14:03] jung1 : I think we con go even to $300 before '16 pump
[2015-11-09 16:14:18] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: I dont know, but possibly. I closed out all of my positions
[2015-11-09 16:14:45] BitMEX_Sam : floopfloop: Right. So XBT24H becomes available right after the daily settlement, but the rest of the contracts only unlock at Friday at 12 UTC
[2015-11-09 16:14:56] floopfloop : oh crap
[2015-11-09 16:15:08] amirmass : 270$ i beleive
[2015-11-09 16:15:51] BitMEX_Sam : floopfloop: https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation#contract-settlement-rebalance
[2015-11-09 16:16:09] BitMEX_Sam : Necessary evil due to high leverage and the potential for systemic loss
[2015-11-09 16:16:27] habibi : there were a good blockchain expl that connects addresses with exchanges and so, do u remember guys that blockexplorer?
[2015-11-09 16:16:44] amirmass : ddddddddummmmmmppp
[2015-11-09 16:16:56] amirmass : chinaaaa
[2015-11-09 16:18:00] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: if i had contract in decemeber and march would i need to wait until then as well?
[2015-11-09 16:18:12] BitMEX_Sam : floopfloop: No, please read the doc - every Friday, all contracts rebalance and profit unlocks
[2015-11-09 16:18:29] floopfloop : oh ok. Yeah I got that, but wasnt sure if it meant those as well
[2015-11-09 16:19:04] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: btw what was the higher system loss u could achieve on testnet?
[2015-11-09 16:19:47] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: Technically any amount below 100% is possible but extremely unlikely
[2015-11-09 16:20:00] BitMEX_Sam : On Testnet there is pretty significant liquidity from some built-in bots so it's pretty tough to crank it high
[2015-11-09 16:20:09] habibi : 100% ? i thought 50% is maximum as players plays against players
[2015-11-09 16:20:29] BitMEX_Wally : Yes but one player will have made all the money and the other lost it all
[2015-11-09 16:20:41] redlose : alright guys now you can dump im in with 40k
[2015-11-09 16:20:42] BitMEX_Wally : So the adjustment is 99.999% of the winner's profits
[2015-11-09 16:20:56] BitMEX_Sam : Imagine 100x, two counterparties, price goes from 100 to 110, each user has only 1 XBT
[2015-11-09 16:21:00] habibi : ah so then the winner would get nothing?
[2015-11-09 16:21:10] BitMEX_Sam : One person would have made 10 XBT, other would have lost 1, so adjustment would be 90%
[2015-11-09 16:21:12] BitMEX_Wally : The winner gets whatever the losers had to lose
[2015-11-09 16:21:23] BitMEX_Wally : So it's fair in that sense
[2015-11-09 16:23:21] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: clear explanation, thx
[2015-11-09 16:24:07] floopfloop : I don't care if they have the proper experience, or any for that matter. If I ever have to hire someone and the applicant is named Wally, they are hired
[2015-11-09 16:25:46] BitMEX_Wally : floopfloop: Did you know that 'wally' is British slang for a silly or inept person?
[2015-11-09 16:26:05] floopfloop : No I did not. +1 point
[2015-11-09 16:26:29] MarketQ : The stop limit just does not seem to work
[2015-11-09 16:26:53] MarketQ : it doesnt ever execute a stop even if the price is well past the stop price
[2015-11-09 16:27:24] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: are u gonna add featuers like stop loss/take profit?
[2015-11-09 16:27:48] BitMEX_Wally : MarketQ: How does it not work?
[2015-11-09 16:28:26] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: If you are long you can add a take profit order by submitting a sell limit order
[2015-11-09 16:28:58] habibi : well... there was no question
[2015-11-09 16:29:05] MarketQ : Well yesterday I placed a stop and the price passed my stop limit and my position didnt get closed
[2015-11-09 16:29:13] BitMEX_Wally : MarketQ: Let me check
[2015-11-09 16:29:52] BitMEX_Wally : MarketQ: It looks like it triggered and was rejected because of lack of available margin
[2015-11-09 16:30:03] MarketQ : Ok makes sense thanks
[2015-11-09 16:30:28] BitMEX_Wally : Have a look in 'Order History'
[2015-11-09 16:41:45] justinlooking : hi wally, thanks for the explanation. earlier regarding the DPE in XBTH16. I'm seeing 40% of my balance is withheld, even though I am completely flat. I thought the DPE would only apply to those people with positions at settlement, but it seems that's not the case?
[2015-11-09 16:42:06] habibi : this bot at hobi is frustrating
[2015-11-09 16:45:25] SnackyCoins : justin you must wait until settlement for the withheld profits to become available
[2015-11-09 16:45:39] BitMEX_Wally : justinlooking: DPE applies to any profits made (realised or unrealised)
[2015-11-09 16:47:47] dorothy490 : dont see a button to add margin when I have pending orders
[2015-11-09 16:47:58] dorothy490 : browsing from PC
[2015-11-09 16:48:41] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: This is a limitation of our system for now. In the mean time open a position with 1 contract then you can add margin
[2015-11-09 16:48:54] dorothy490 : why
[2015-11-09 16:49:25] BitMEX_Wally : You have pending orders and you want there to be more margin when they are filled?
[2015-11-09 16:49:34] dorothy490 : yes
[2015-11-09 16:50:18] Murch : dorothy490: so open 1 contract add margin it's not difficult
[2015-11-09 16:50:32] dorothy490 : it was possible without opening one contract before
[2015-11-09 16:50:37] SnackyCoins : adding additional margin as a feature was just added like what 2 weeks ago? 8)
[2015-11-09 16:51:00] Murch : dorothy490: Yeah I noticed that before too actually, weird.
[2015-11-09 16:51:54] dorothy490 : I'm also worried what if i reverse my position due of this change additional margin will dissapear
[2015-11-09 16:52:17] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: Open a position in the same direction then
[2015-11-09 16:52:31] dorothy490 : wat
[2015-11-09 16:52:57] dorothy490 : say I have 1 short contract, if price reach 360 I have pending buy orders
[2015-11-09 16:53:11] dorothy490 : for 200
[2015-11-09 16:53:20] dorothy490 : what will happen with additional margin in that case
[2015-11-09 16:54:05] habibi : that hobi bot... if its not on purpose someone will get wreck ;p
[2015-11-09 16:54:11] BitMEX_Wally : There is only 1 situation where additional margin will be taken out, and that is when you have no active orders (nothing in the book) AND no position (qty is 0)
[2015-11-09 16:54:46] BitMEX_Wally : So if you go from -1 to 199 the additional margin will stay there
[2015-11-09 16:54:56] dorothy490 : ok, any reasons why you removed ability to add margin to the pending orders without position?
[2015-11-09 16:55:01] Murch : habibi: what's it doing?
[2015-11-09 16:55:11] BitMEX_Wally : I'm not sure it was ever there
[2015-11-09 16:55:22] cekseh : I think I saw it there a few days ago as well
[2015-11-09 16:55:29] dorothy490 : it was there
[2015-11-09 16:55:34] cekseh : I remember asking myself that question on sat
[2015-11-09 16:55:34] habibi : Murch: https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/huobi/btccny was keep buying all to 2489 for like 10-15 minutes
[2015-11-09 16:55:59] dorothy490 : I often used it to XBTD7D and other instruments
[2015-11-09 16:55:59] Murch : habibi: oh wow okay lol
[2015-11-09 16:56:11] BitMEX_Wally : Ok, we'll add it
[2015-11-09 16:56:22] dorothy490 : thanks
[2015-11-09 16:56:55] cekseh : +1 =)
[2015-11-09 16:58:28] SnackyCoins : i never saw it, but i use cross :)
[2015-11-09 17:04:09] Murch : cross ftw
[2015-11-09 17:30:23] TschavaTschigger : dumping time
[2015-11-09 17:32:03] podizzler3k_ : again?
[2015-11-09 17:32:07] podizzler3k_ : its always dumping time
[2015-11-09 17:46:20] TschavaTschigger : time to jump on the buytrain
[2015-11-09 17:49:21] jung1 : will drop more
[2015-11-09 17:51:25] TschavaTschigger : nope
[2015-11-09 17:51:27] gielbier : BitMEX_Wally: yeah i agree with dorothy490 i miss that
[2015-11-09 17:59:50] floopfloop : moon time
[2015-11-09 18:04:05] TschavaTschigger : +1
[2015-11-09 18:13:19] floopfloop : i got out, ez .12 btc
[2015-11-09 18:16:24] jung1 : finex bitcoin price is bigger thatn xbt24
[2015-11-09 18:21:10] sleger : huobi price is bigger than finex
[2015-11-09 18:22:50] jung1 : would be great if there will be dump
[2015-11-09 18:24:40] floopfloop : ok coin has btc at 299.99 after rebate
[2015-11-09 18:24:53] floopfloop : what happened to the woodchipper?
[2015-11-09 18:27:10] jung1 : hey sam. put it on your list https://gatecoin.com/blog/2015/11/gatecoin-launches-dynamic-stop-orders/
[2015-11-09 18:27:59] jung1 : BitMEX_Wally:
[2015-11-09 18:31:42] BitMEX_Sam : jung1: Yeah, those are nice. More order types to come
[2015-11-09 18:33:09] babybaby : BTC going up
[2015-11-09 18:35:37] aspa : BitMEX_Sam: if you're going to allow bots that paint the orderbooks, you might consider alternative forms to display the orderbooks. Didn't like what I just saw..
[2015-11-09 18:35:59] zanza : ?
[2015-11-09 18:36:01] BitMEX_Sam : aspa: Agreed, they've been starting to fill it full of tiny sizes
[2015-11-09 18:36:13] aspa : Indeed..
[2015-11-09 18:36:37] BitMEX_Sam : We always knew it would happen eventually, just have had other development priorities so we figured we'd wait until this started happening more
[2015-11-09 18:37:17] aspa : I understand.. Good to know you're on top of that :) And thanks for the excellent platform!
[2015-11-09 18:37:40] BitMEX_Sam : aspa: Thanks!
[2015-11-09 18:37:43] zanza : what is considered tiny size?
[2015-11-09 18:38:22] jung1 : or leave it but add "group"option like on huobi
[2015-11-09 18:38:48] aspa : Grouping sounds fine, yes
[2015-11-09 18:38:59] zanza : under 100? under 1000? what do you consider small
[2015-11-09 18:39:24] jung1 : not only bots play tiny size
[2015-11-09 18:39:32] SnackyCoins : 1-5 contracts small
[2015-11-09 18:39:35] jung1 : thats how free market works
[2015-11-09 18:40:39] jung1 : best option will be to group orderbook in varions way like to 0.25, to 0.5, 0.75, 1 etc
[2015-11-09 18:40:47] jung1 : various
[2015-11-09 18:41:04] jung1 : everyone will be ahppy
[2015-11-09 18:41:05] zanza : makes sense, seems complicated to program though!
[2015-11-09 18:41:35] jung1 : zanza: but you would know what for your fees go ;)
[2015-11-09 18:41:49] aspa : zanza: well in the current layout, <100 is annoying to me.. Though indeed one cannot mind such small orders if it's still possible to spot the mass..
[2015-11-09 18:41:54] zanza : this place has like the lowest fees i seen
[2015-11-09 18:41:59] zanza : not complaining about that!
[2015-11-09 18:41:59] SnackyCoins : i'm sure the longest part of development for something like that is figuring out where you're going to put the buttons 8)
[2015-11-09 18:42:34] jung1 : something like on https://www.huobi.com/
[2015-11-09 18:42:43] zanza : :o
[2015-11-09 18:42:50] zanza : he spoke the unspeakable
[2015-11-09 18:42:52] jung1 : you can chose depth
[2015-11-09 18:42:52] aspa : less than 100 is annoying to me, though one cannot mind smaller orders as long as it's still possibel to spot the mass
[2015-11-09 18:43:09] zanza : or BitMEX can give out the address details of the MM spamming these orders
[2015-11-09 18:43:12] aspa : BitMEX_Sam: Trollbox doesn't allow 'smaller than sign'?
[2015-11-09 18:43:14] zanza : and we can find him
[2015-11-09 18:44:02] BitMEX_Sam : aspa: Yeah, that's a bit overzealous part of the HTML sanitization
[2015-11-09 18:44:42] aspa : I feel absolutely safe now ;)
[2015-11-09 18:44:47] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, grouping is generally the answer, there are some little issues about what happens underneath with the data but it's definitely doable
[2015-11-09 18:45:38] SnackyCoins : seems like doing it on the front end would be easiest
[2015-11-09 18:46:02] singularity321 : the longest part of development is finding names for things
[2015-11-09 18:46:06] jung1 : so add grouping and dynamic stop losses and I will add bitmex to my cv as full time trader/trollbox user
[2015-11-09 18:46:30] singularity321 : you using nodejs?
[2015-11-09 18:46:34] SnackyCoins : don't forget the reflink QR on there jung
[2015-11-09 18:46:43] BitMEX_Sam : aspa: The trick is to put a space between, < 100 is fine
[2015-11-09 18:46:55] BitMEX_Sam : singularity321: For the webservers, yes, for the trading engine, kdb+
[2015-11-09 18:47:20] singularity321 : ooo not heard of that
[2015-11-09 18:47:21] jung1 : SnackyCoins: for sure
[2015-11-09 18:48:10] SnackyCoins : hey sam do you like react better than angular?
[2015-11-09 18:48:22] BitMEX_Sam : SnackyCoins: Yes, or else this would be an Angular site
[2015-11-09 18:48:29] SnackyCoins : touche 8)
[2015-11-09 18:48:39] BitMEX_Sam : Big React fan, I maintain a lot of React projects at https://github.com/strml
[2015-11-09 18:50:02] SnackyCoins : was thinking about what my next framework should be, react seeming like a good choice
[2015-11-09 18:50:58] BitMEX_Sam : It's the future (and present) of webdev
[2015-11-09 18:52:45] singularity321 : I work as a php dev, it's a dirty job but it pays the bills
[2015-11-09 18:53:35] aspa : BitMEX_Sam: thanks! Let's see if it works: Stamp < OKCoin < Huobi
[2015-11-09 18:53:40] aspa : Excellent!
[2015-11-09 18:53:46] SnackyCoins : how do all these react-ids get in the html? is it inserted or is the whole document generated?
[2015-11-09 18:53:56] aspa : I've been wanting to try that wordfilter for days now
[2015-11-09 18:54:13] BitMEX_Sam : SnackyCoins: That's an implementation detail of React itself, it uses the IDs to keep track of where its internal elements map to the DOM
[2015-11-09 18:54:51] SnackyCoins : ah so they get inserted as the page loads
[2015-11-09 18:55:32] SnackyCoins : I don't know angular either ;)
[2015-11-09 18:56:01] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah anything generated by React will have those IDs, unless you put it in a special static-page mode
[2015-11-09 18:57:05] aspa : strml.net is awesome
[2015-11-09 18:57:49] singularity321 : i've been on there before
[2015-11-09 18:57:56] singularity321 : swear I have
[2015-11-09 18:58:23] singularity321 : guessing you posted it to r/theymos a while back
[2015-11-09 18:58:23] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, it went viral a few months back
[2015-11-09 18:59:28] SnackyCoins : Ha this is great :)
[2015-11-09 19:08:09] habibi : ddos pump?
[2015-11-09 19:09:32] babybaby : told ya pump is coming
[2015-11-09 19:09:39] babybaby : u shuld tip me habibi
[2015-11-09 19:10:14] habibi : when u told to go long @ 390 and it went to 375? :D sure!
[2015-11-09 19:10:26] babybaby : no it didnt
[2015-11-09 19:10:31] babybaby : i shown u pic of me long
[2015-11-09 19:10:41] babybaby : and i just did money on long too - Sam can admit
[2015-11-09 19:11:16] habibi : lel, i dont care mate :D i know u said long at 388-390 here, few minutes after dump from 2430 :p
[2015-11-09 19:17:47] kendang : kindergarden ..
[2015-11-09 19:19:29] podizzler3k_ : hey bros
[2015-11-09 19:19:39] podizzler3k_ : looks like cumberland mining won the majority of the coins
[2015-11-09 19:19:43] podizzler3k_ : like last time
[2015-11-09 19:19:50] podizzler3k_ : also last time there was a pretty big dump
[2015-11-09 19:19:53] podizzler3k_ : just sayin
[2015-11-09 19:20:37] habibi : podizzler3k_: yea saw the blockchain info, they not hiding that they bought it specially
[2015-11-09 19:21:19] habibi : the only question is who owns 26k coins
[2015-11-09 19:22:52] podizzler3k_ : maybe genesis trading
[2015-11-09 19:23:04] podizzler3k_ : maybe pantera
[2015-11-09 19:23:26] podizzler3k_ : genesis trading used to be secondmarket/ barry silbert
[2015-11-09 19:23:29] podizzler3k_ : they just changed names
[2015-11-09 19:24:15] podizzler3k_ : volume picking up in china
[2015-11-09 19:24:25] podizzler3k_ : lets get that mmm ponzi money!
[2015-11-09 19:24:49] TschavaTschigger : < 3 ponzi
[2015-11-09 19:25:04] habibi : podizzler3k_: where u see volumen? for me it seems hobi and okcoin are under ddos
[2015-11-09 19:26:13] floopfloop : ok coin
[2015-11-09 19:26:25] floopfloop : okcoin
[2015-11-09 19:26:28] floopfloop : THERE WE GO
[2015-11-09 19:27:06] jung1 : is there any info for how much they bought it?
[2015-11-09 19:28:20] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I know this is a ways back in the chat but I was trying to catch up. That's an awesome site you have @BitMEX_Sam. Very nice
[2015-11-09 19:28:32] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb
[2015-11-09 19:30:45] singularity321 : I thought it was $400
[2015-11-09 19:31:46] TschavaTschigger : god where is all the volatility that brought us so much joy last week? markets are almost as flat as my girlfriend
[2015-11-09 19:32:00] kendang : rofl
[2015-11-09 19:32:03] BitMEX_Sam : Almost
[2015-11-09 19:32:07] singularity321 : oh yeh you guys might appreciate this. I bought like £300 of bitcoin in cash the other day (im from the UK). and the guy had £15,000 in cash in his car, completely insane
[2015-11-09 19:32:27] singularity321 : never met him before and he actually just trusted me to see it
[2015-11-09 19:32:34] BitMEX_Sam : In the US, that'd be asking for a good old-fashioned civil forfeiture
[2015-11-09 19:33:05] singularity321 : I heard they're even doing that with prepaid cards now
[2015-11-09 19:33:19] singularity321 : You're justice system is messed up
[2015-11-09 19:33:22] singularity321 : *your
[2015-11-09 19:33:33] kendang : yeah, load them cards up and fly them out of the country
[2015-11-09 19:33:48] kendang : but i think the .gov is taking countermeasure
[2015-11-09 19:34:07] jung1 : Bitstamp has recently learned that the Deutsche Bank Banking Group has adopted an internal policy regarding Bitcoin-related transfers. The group no longer allows transfers related to Bitcoin.
[2015-11-09 19:36:08] podizzler3k_ : wow what the hell is with this chop suey
[2015-11-09 19:36:30] cekseh : Sell the dip
[2015-11-09 19:36:32] babybaby : go LONG
[2015-11-09 19:36:33] cekseh : =)
[2015-11-09 19:36:42] cekseh : Go long at 350
[2015-11-09 19:36:47] cekseh : sell everything
[2015-11-09 19:36:48] cekseh : =)
[2015-11-09 19:36:52] podizzler3k_ : 350 what the hell
[2015-11-09 19:37:01] podizzler3k_ : dont scare me
[2015-11-09 19:37:36] jung1 : well its possible
[2015-11-09 19:37:38] singularity321 : I'd be happy for it to stay steady til just after my next pay check
[2015-11-09 19:37:52] singularity321 : 1.4btc off 10 :D
[2015-11-09 19:38:16] jung1 : podizzler3k_: how previous auction affect btc price?
[2015-11-09 19:38:37] podizzler3k_ : well the coins moved on march 12th
[2015-11-09 19:38:43] jung1 : they dumped it?
[2015-11-09 19:38:42] podizzler3k_ : and that was a fairly dumpy week
[2015-11-09 19:39:10] podizzler3k_ : nobody knows
[2015-11-09 19:39:19] podizzler3k_ : could be a coincidence
[2015-11-09 19:39:26] podizzler3k_ : nothing is really known about cumberland mining co
[2015-11-09 19:39:33] podizzler3k_ : its a bit shady
[2015-11-09 19:40:35] jung1 : maybe its ulbricht from the jail
[2015-11-09 19:40:38] singularity321 : what's your real name? ;-)
[2015-11-09 19:40:45] singularity321 : ...shady
[2015-11-09 19:40:47] singularity321 : :D
[2015-11-09 19:41:36] podizzler3k_ : slimshady3000
[2015-11-09 19:41:53] podizzler3k_ : now you guys have me scared im depositing more to add margin
[2015-11-09 19:41:56] jung1 : podz is more like whale so he is not so slim
[2015-11-09 19:42:06] podizzler3k_ : 20btc should keep me safe
[2015-11-09 19:42:24] podizzler3k_ : i cant have a dump down to 350 burn me
[2015-11-09 19:42:57] podizzler3k_ : hey wait a minute i thought you meant whale like rich
[2015-11-09 19:43:04] jung1 : I think we will hit 300 in this year
[2015-11-09 19:43:23] jung1 : podizzler3k_: maybe yes, maybe no
[2015-11-09 19:43:27] podizzler3k_ : party pooper
[2015-11-09 19:43:29] podizzler3k_ : wet blanket
[2015-11-09 19:43:35] babybaby : go LONG, all green
[2015-11-09 19:43:46] podizzler3k_ : im going to make 1000btc by shorting it down to $1 and then have $1000!
[2015-11-09 19:44:02] singularity321 : hah
[2015-11-09 19:45:04] podizzler3k_ : okcoin price swings making me nauseous
[2015-11-09 19:45:36] singularity321 : what odds would you guys give that mr robot season 2 mentions bitcoin?
[2015-11-09 19:45:41] BitMEX_Sam : High
[2015-11-09 19:45:51] BitMEX_Sam : Thought it already did at some point in S1
[2015-11-09 19:45:56] singularity321 : did it?
[2015-11-09 19:45:59] singularity321 : I didn;t notice
[2015-11-09 19:46:16] BitMEX_Sam : I think when they were going to pay the Chinese - can't remember exactly
[2015-11-09 19:46:18] singularity321 : gogole says no
[2015-11-09 19:46:44] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah I see that too. Well, anyway, high
[2015-11-09 19:46:44] jung1 : singularity321: buy drugs by bitcoin lik in 'dope'
[2015-11-09 19:47:01] podizzler3k_ : chinese are master honeydickers
[2015-11-09 19:47:13] podizzler3k_ : they'll pump it to $10,000 only to rekt us all
[2015-11-09 19:47:16] singularity321 : hehe there are shrooms growing all around here this time of year. Why buy em when yo ucan get them for free
[2015-11-09 19:47:50] podizzler3k_ : they never mentioned bitcoin once in mr robot?
[2015-11-09 19:47:51] kendang : singularity321: business opportunity ...
[2015-11-09 19:47:52] podizzler3k_ : thats really strange
[2015-11-09 19:47:57] singularity321 : dope was a good film though
[2015-11-09 19:47:58] podizzler3k_ : they mention it in the blacklist a lot
[2015-11-09 19:48:14] kendang : is blacklist season 3 out?
[2015-11-09 19:48:18] jung1 : lsd dont grow on the ground
[2015-11-09 19:48:20] podizzler3k_ : yeah i think so, i fell behind
[2015-11-09 19:48:25] podizzler3k_ : so many eps
[2015-11-09 19:48:34] podizzler3k_ : ash vs evil dead is my new favorite show
[2015-11-09 19:48:39] BitMEX_Sam : Got you guys a new present
[2015-11-09 19:48:40] BitMEX_Sam : https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Order/Order_getCloseOutOrders
[2015-11-09 19:48:41] singularity321 : holy shit mine too
[2015-11-09 19:48:48] BitMEX_Sam : Will go in the frontend in the next few days
[2015-11-09 19:48:54] podizzler3k_ : so great. hilarious and freaky too
[2015-11-09 19:49:06] jung1 : fargo is good also
[2015-11-09 19:49:16] kendang : fargo is dop
[2015-11-09 19:49:17] podizzler3k_ : yup im watching fargo as well
[2015-11-09 19:49:19] kendang : dope
[2015-11-09 19:49:21] singularity321 : When I saw that it had bruce campbell I nearly screamed like a teenage girl
[2015-11-09 19:49:49] podizzler3k_ : boomstick in one hand chainsaw for the other hand
[2015-11-09 19:50:11] podizzler3k_ : come on 2500
[2015-11-09 19:53:21] kendang : can anyone recommend any good books on futures trading?
[2015-11-09 19:53:44] singularity321 : anyone here recommend a good js book for someone who's brainwashed against asynchronous programming from years of habbit?
[2015-11-09 19:53:49] singularity321 : ^weird
[2015-11-09 19:54:22] BitMEX_Sam : Wow that was odd
[2015-11-09 19:54:24] podizzler3k_ : not really a futures book per say but mark douglas disciplined trader is really good
[2015-11-09 19:55:03] BitMEX_Sam : singularity321: I don't know of any, learned through a lot of real-world programming, but if you're looking to do NodeJS work, definitely look into Promises, especially with Bluebird
[2015-11-09 19:56:22] kendang : podizzler3k_: thanks. downloading it as we speak
[2015-11-09 19:57:16] singularity321 : Cheers Sam I'll take a look. I really struggle with js sometimes but I'm starting to get my head around it a bit now.
[2015-11-09 19:59:09] zanza : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3s26wf/this_morning_our_research_facility_discovered/
[2015-11-09 19:59:14] podizzler3k_ : js needs to be retired
[2015-11-09 19:59:45] podizzler3k_ : haha draculas castle
[2015-11-09 20:00:21] singularity321 : ah man I only "discovered" castlevania about a month ago when my friend showed it to me. I feel like it's been missing my whole life haha
[2015-11-09 20:03:32] podizzler3k_ : some good 8 bit music
[2015-11-09 20:05:53] podizzler3k_ : every second btc is under 2500cny a little piece of me dies
[2015-11-09 20:06:03] podizzler3k_ : save a troll, buy btc today
[2015-11-09 20:06:28] jung1 : podz
[2015-11-09 20:06:34] jung1 : if you love something let it go
[2015-11-09 20:06:41] jung1 : dont fight with market
[2015-11-09 20:06:46] jung1 : close your position
[2015-11-09 20:08:59] podizzler3k_ : how dare you
[2015-11-09 20:09:06] podizzler3k_ : clearly this is a major up trend
[2015-11-09 20:09:09] singularity321 : short gold
[2015-11-09 20:09:12] podizzler3k_ : if you squint really hard it all becomes clear
[2015-11-09 20:12:03] floopfloop : the premium on march is insane
[2015-11-09 20:12:39] jung1 : its still fair price imo
[2015-11-09 20:12:52] jung1 : in march we can hit 1k
[2015-11-09 20:12:52] podizzler3k_ : huobi being ddosed?
[2015-11-09 20:13:00] jung1 : i think so
[2015-11-09 20:13:05] podizzler3k_ : next june is gonna be insane
[2015-11-09 20:13:08] podizzler3k_ : with the halving
[2015-11-09 20:13:11] podizzler3k_ : i want to have a lot by then
[2015-11-09 20:13:17] jung1 : yeah
[2015-11-09 20:13:21] podizzler3k_ : to ride it up and then short the fuck out of it the moment it halves
[2015-11-09 20:13:51] jung1 : but it will be freefall
[2015-11-09 20:14:03] jung1 : much more stronger than last dump
[2015-11-09 20:14:15] jung1 : cant wait
[2015-11-09 20:14:16] singularity321 : I'm just happy to have gone from 1 to 8 btc in two years, probably a pittance to you guys but most of that I made trading rather than buying it
[2015-11-09 20:14:21] singularity321 : so I think I'm doing well
[2015-11-09 20:14:35] kendang : singularity321: congrats
[2015-11-09 20:14:40] jung1 : yeah its nice
[2015-11-09 20:14:41] singularity321 : thanks dude
[2015-11-09 20:14:53] jung1 : much more harder is to keep your coins than trade it
[2015-11-09 20:14:54] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: Hi Sam, how are you? I'm looking through the logs of my test bot run from this morning EST, looks good so far. It pounded the API pretty hard, any issues on your end?
[2015-11-09 20:15:02] singularity321 : Just wish I'd have bought when I first heard about it in a comp sci lecture in 2011
[2015-11-09 20:15:27] kendang : i bought 10 btc @$5 back in the day. spent them all within a few weeks ...
[2015-11-09 20:15:42] podizzler3k_ : kendang a lot of stories like that
[2015-11-09 20:15:44] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Nope, no issues here
[2015-11-09 20:15:47] BitMEX_Sam : API can take it
[2015-11-09 20:15:57] podizzler3k_ : one day swim may regret buying ounces of weed with 1btc
[2015-11-09 20:16:36] podizzler3k_ : i remember selling a copy of bioshock for .7btc a month before it went from $60 to $1200
[2015-11-09 20:16:47] kendang : yikes
[2015-11-09 20:16:48] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: great! no 429 errors on my end either
[2015-11-09 20:16:52] podizzler3k_ : when it was $1200 i realized i had sold a copy of bioshock for $1000
[2015-11-09 20:16:53] jung1 : I wonder if that 10k pizza guy still like pizza
[2015-11-09 20:16:57] podizzler3k_ : that turned out good
[2015-11-09 20:17:36] podizzler3k_ : haha 10k pizza
[2015-11-09 20:17:44] podizzler3k_ : what a pizza
[2015-11-09 20:17:58] kendang : is there any marketplace where i can sell some legal stuff for btc? a market with a decent amount of buyers and sellers?
[2015-11-09 20:18:03] jung1 : I lost like 40btc in instawallet
[2015-11-09 20:18:23] jung1 : kendang: btc is not for legal use
[2015-11-09 20:18:35] kendang : jung1: sorry, forgot about that ;-)
[2015-11-09 20:18:37] singularity321 : my friend has a gambling problem and I've been trying to get him into bitcoin for 2 year... along with all of my other now very annoyed friends. Anyway he finally got one 3 months ago and gambled it away in a week.
[2015-11-09 20:18:53] singularity321 : he's pretty pissed at just this 2x rise
[2015-11-09 20:19:13] podizzler3k_ : my friend owns a site called cryptothrift
[2015-11-09 20:19:15] podizzler3k_ : you could try that
[2015-11-09 20:19:23] podizzler3k_ : its fairly popular
[2015-11-09 20:19:28] podizzler3k_ : i think he said they changed names tho
[2015-11-09 20:19:41] podizzler3k_ : yeah now its bitify.com
[2015-11-09 20:19:54] jung1 : kendang: https://www.reddit.com/r/bitmarket https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=51.0
[2015-11-09 20:19:57] kendang : i spent a few bucks at bitcoin casinos. now that i am reformed i just gamble ... er ... trade my bitcoin away on bitmex
[2015-11-09 20:20:50] singularity321 : yeh but do you risk your entire stack on a few dice rolls
[2015-11-09 20:20:52] kendang : just don't tell my shri
[2015-11-09 20:21:00] singularity321 : this is still gambling but he has a gambling problem
[2015-11-09 20:21:00] kendang : shrink
[2015-11-09 20:22:10] podizzler3k_ : it doesnt have to be gambling. if your liquidation price is $10 id say its not really gambling
[2015-11-09 20:22:14] singularity321 : as in he's had to declare bankruptsy at 17
[2015-11-09 20:22:24] podizzler3k_ : bankrupt at 17 wtf
[2015-11-09 20:22:27] podizzler3k_ : is that even possible
[2015-11-09 20:22:31] singularity321 : and now can't get a load or mortgage
[2015-11-09 20:22:32] kendang : i made about 100% profit here on bitmex. just made the mistake of leaving a position open over night
[2015-11-09 20:22:43] singularity321 : *18
[2015-11-09 20:22:50] jung1 : its funny that in couple of years we will say same about '15 as we talk now about '11
[2015-11-09 20:23:12] jung1 : kendang: so you lost everything
[2015-11-09 20:23:17] kendang : yeah, i also know a dude who gambled away 36k at online casinos within 9 months. he had a "system"
[2015-11-09 20:23:30] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: are you going to continue with XBU contracts after XBUZ15 expires? Just wondering if I need to add XBU series to our system
[2015-11-09 20:23:37] jung1 : the harder part of trading is to keep your money
[2015-11-09 20:23:45] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: We intend to
[2015-11-09 20:23:45] kendang : jung1: no, just about 75%
[2015-11-09 20:23:48] singularity321 : it's always gamblers fallacy, he just doesn't understand probability
[2015-11-09 20:23:59] kendang : singularity321: yep
[2015-11-09 20:23:59] jung1 : micmix: what system?
[2015-11-09 20:24:13] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: quarterly only?
[2015-11-09 20:24:22] BitMEX_Sam : For the time being, yes
[2015-11-09 20:24:35] singularity321 : like I say him put £400 ($600) into a roulette machine once because it hadn't had a 0 in 40 spins and he thought that there was tehrefor a higher chance of it coming out next time
[2015-11-09 20:24:42] micmix : jung1: I'm adding BitMEX support to our internal trading system
[2015-11-09 20:24:42] singularity321 : *saw
[2015-11-09 20:24:46] podizzler3k_ : gamblers fallacy yes like the people at the roulette wheel deep in thought looking at the previous #s
[2015-11-09 20:24:56] singularity321 : ^
[2015-11-09 20:25:10] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: thanks
[2015-11-09 20:26:11] jung1 : micmix: link?
[2015-11-09 20:27:35] micmix : jung1: private internal system :-)
[2015-11-09 20:27:56] jung1 : I was testing you
[2015-11-09 20:28:04] kendang : does you guys trade bitcoin for a living? seems to me like a tough job
[2015-11-09 20:28:18] micmix : what do you mean? @jung1
[2015-11-09 20:29:02] kendang : if i was trading larger order sizes i'd probably get a heart attack during the wild swings
[2015-11-09 20:34:06] singularity321 : I think doing proper cold storage helps me not loose too much money. Sounds silly but putting bitcoins on paper wallets printed on a dedicated printer off of machines that have never touched a network. It just kinda makes it a ball-ache to scan the private key and have to do it all again. It also helps that im incredibly lazy
[2015-11-09 20:36:48] zanza : do you encrypt your paper wallets?
[2015-11-09 20:37:10] habibi : trezor is the anserw
[2015-11-09 20:38:04] zanza : trezor is only as weak as the restore seed though
[2015-11-09 20:39:42] habibi : u can encrypt ur seed as well
[2015-11-09 20:39:50] BitMEX_Sam : zanza: Restore seeds on trezors are quite strong
[2015-11-09 20:39:58] habibi : if u afraid someone will look at it
[2015-11-09 20:39:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I love my Trezor. Best bitcoin investment by far
[2015-11-09 20:40:12] BitMEX_Sam : https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039.mediawiki
[2015-11-09 20:40:47] floopfloop : kendang: i lost .4 btc yesterday ona swing, then had to grind to get it back
[2015-11-09 20:41:15] singularity321 : i've been working on a character set that is human readable, short, but has a large base
[2015-11-09 20:41:42] singularity321 : don't really like using phrases to store btc
[2015-11-09 20:44:41] floopfloop : singularity321: porn
[2015-11-09 20:45:31] singularity321 : hehe it could mean anything!
[2015-11-09 20:47:52] singularity321 : I wonder if someone has used the images from johnny mnemonic to encode a private key yet
[2015-11-09 20:49:57] zanza : the seeds are strong from cracking attempts, but if anyone gets your actual seed they basically have your wallet
[2015-11-09 20:50:12] zanza : if they get the actual paper the seed is on
[2015-11-09 20:53:16] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: Not if you use passphrase encryption. Then the attacker needs another string (something you've memorized, not written down)
[2015-11-09 20:54:55] jung1 : how cool is that
[2015-11-09 20:55:05] jung1 : you can own milions of dollars in your mind
[2015-11-09 20:57:26] habibi : jung1: ask Ulbricht , he's probally the one who knows that the best
[2015-11-09 20:57:36] jung1 : yeah
[2015-11-09 20:57:53] jung1 : and I bet that in couple of years if bitcoin will be worth like 100k
[2015-11-09 20:58:04] jung1 : someone will help him to get out of jail
[2015-11-09 20:58:24] zanza : 100k ? lol
[2015-11-09 20:58:31] jung1 : he still own around 500k
[2015-11-09 20:58:39] zanza : in the hidden wallet
[2015-11-09 20:59:18] zanza : oh i misread that, I thought you meant Ross bitcoin was worth 100k
[2015-11-09 21:01:05] jung1 : 100k per bitcoin
[2015-11-09 21:03:48] singularity321 : fairly sure 100k per bitcoin would put the markey cap above like m2 od the us?
[2015-11-09 21:03:56] singularity321 : *of
[2015-11-09 21:04:15] singularity321 : my maths may be way off though
[2015-11-09 21:04:22] singularity321 : sorry *math :P
[2015-11-09 21:09:18] singularity321 : yep my maths is way off sorry
[2015-11-09 21:09:32] singularity321 : I shouldn't come in here when i've been drinking
[2015-11-09 21:09:56] jung1 : trading while you are drunk if best one
[2015-11-09 21:10:23] singularity321 : not trading right now
[2015-11-09 21:10:35] singularity321 : waiting for a break either way
[2015-11-09 21:11:08] singularity321 : google "gold market cap"
[2015-11-09 21:11:19] singularity321 : what's the second result down for you guys?
[2015-11-09 21:11:28] singularity321 : I'm getting a tone of bitcoin stuff
[2015-11-09 21:11:34] kendang : bitcointalk
[2015-11-09 21:16:28] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1sowur/how_is_a_2600000000000_market_cap_for_btc_possible/
[2015-11-09 21:16:28] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Second result down for me is the bitcoin subreddit
[2015-11-09 21:16:38] singularity321 : same here
[2015-11-09 21:16:47] singularity321 : pretty cool I guess
[2015-11-09 21:17:10] singularity321 : "gold is dead"
[2015-11-09 21:17:12] deadcatbounce : hello, say I have an open position of 500 contracts on XBT24H in short, can I open a position of 500 contracts in long at a lower price to close the first one and take profits?
[2015-11-09 21:17:30] kendang : yes
[2015-11-09 21:17:35] deadcatbounce : thanks
[2015-11-09 21:17:48] singularity321 : I'm change my name to bitcoin nietzsche and go around saying gold is dead to people
[2015-11-09 21:18:25] kendang : singularity321: some of my bitcoin wenet to bitgold.com
[2015-11-09 21:18:31] kendang : i still believe in gold
[2015-11-09 21:18:36] singularity321 : I have silver
[2015-11-09 21:18:47] kendang : singularity321: physical?
[2015-11-09 21:18:51] singularity321 : yeh
[2015-11-09 21:19:02] kendang : bought with btc?
[2015-11-09 21:19:07] singularity321 : you can get some rediculous deals on old english coins if you know what you're doing
[2015-11-09 21:19:09] singularity321 : on ebay
[2015-11-09 21:19:18] singularity321 : was buying them in bulk at like 80% spot
[2015-11-09 21:19:22] kendang : where are you located?
[2015-11-09 21:19:26] singularity321 : uk
[2015-11-09 21:19:29] kendang : hm
[2015-11-09 21:19:35] singularity321 : if I was in the Us i'd be coin rolling like a fiend
[2015-11-09 21:19:51] kendang : i'm in .de , gotta check my local ebay
[2015-11-09 21:20:14] singularity321 : old deutschmarks maybe?
[2015-11-09 21:20:23] amirmass : what's next
[2015-11-09 21:20:25] floopfloop : singularity321: coin rolling?
[2015-11-09 21:21:03] singularity321 : floopfloop: basically you go to a US bank and get a tone of shalf dollers in change
[2015-11-09 21:21:12] singularity321 : you can get a good amount of silver from them
[2015-11-09 21:21:17] singularity321 : search on youtube
[2015-11-09 21:21:25] singularity321 : *half