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[2017-01-21 20:15:44] MikeHunt : support line
[2017-01-21 20:15:50] MikeHunt : the new one after devaluation is ~ 3-4k
[2017-01-21 20:16:43] thailand : it ran along 5k before going up. What makes you think it would break out of that range in particular when it held on the initial FUD 1 week ago?
[2017-01-21 20:16:48] Papou : you guys notice no big shorts have been liquidated? majority of the market is long
[2017-01-21 20:17:03] thedoc : ETC going for it again
[2017-01-21 20:17:03] Papou : why pump them into riches? they are being bull trapped and once the shorts start opening, huge upsets
[2017-01-21 20:18:18] MikeHunt : thailand: recent china revelations and normalcy bias
[2017-01-21 20:18:27] MikeHunt : thailand: bull run has lasted ~1.5 yrs
[2017-01-21 20:18:57] MikeHunt : it will take time for the loss of volume to catch up
[2017-01-21 20:21:08] thailand : yes, but that is why it crashed 40-50% already and held at the 5k CNY from near 9k
[2017-01-21 20:21:29] MikeHunt : that was on the basis that china maintained pump volume
[2017-01-21 20:21:30] thailand : Rado is the most logical guy in here. Bitcoin is going nowhere fast and through all time highs in the medium to long term
[2017-01-21 20:21:34] MikeHunt : china recently lost pump volume
[2017-01-21 20:21:42] thailand : yes, hence why it dropped 50%
[2017-01-21 20:21:54] MikeHunt : each of those crashes were caused by pboc
[2017-01-21 20:21:57] MikeHunt : not the new policies
[2017-01-21 20:21:59] thailand : lol
[2017-01-21 20:22:32] MikeHunt : the new policies started after 13th jan
[2017-01-21 20:22:35] MikeHunt : after the second crash
[2017-01-21 20:23:55] abbey : Papou: do you have open positions at the moment?
[2017-01-21 20:24:31] abbey : btc
[2017-01-21 20:26:04] Papou : short
[2017-01-21 20:26:07] Papou : nice funding
[2017-01-21 20:26:40] MikeHunt : Papou: +1
[2017-01-21 20:27:37] abbey : ok
[2017-01-21 20:30:04] Rado : I also think we can retest the $888 area
[2017-01-21 20:30:11] sleger : its good to keep positive, earning 0.9$ from funding after losing 30$ in price increase :D @Papou
[2017-01-21 20:30:24] Rado : he he
[2017-01-21 20:30:36] Rado : that is true
[2017-01-21 20:30:52] Rado : funding should not be a reason for a trade
[2017-01-21 20:31:02] Rado : but if you are short and get it it's bonus
[2017-01-21 20:31:48] Papou : sleger i went small position originally and loaded at the top its looking like
[2017-01-21 20:31:55] Papou : and im still only 3x leverage, nothing
[2017-01-21 20:32:00] Papou : and positive
[2017-01-21 20:32:04] Papou : and short CNY from 6422
[2017-01-21 20:32:14] Papou : and if it bull runs i long future
[2017-01-21 20:32:17] sleger : oh good, so you're not losing too much yet, keep the good spirit !!
[2017-01-21 20:32:35] Papou : im trying to make a living here dude
[2017-01-21 20:33:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1700 @ 918.00
[2017-01-21 20:33:40] thailand : LOL
[2017-01-21 20:34:12] Papou : still holding onto 20 btc as well to offset if we go parabolic 1400+
[2017-01-21 20:34:17] Papou : ill be alright
[2017-01-21 20:34:43] Papou : cant bull run forvever
[2017-01-21 20:34:45] sleger : yes because you're gambling only with what you can afford to lose ?
[2017-01-21 20:35:01] Papou : and go look okcoin, market is all long
[2017-01-21 20:35:08] Papou : looks scrumptious for a bearwhale
[2017-01-21 20:35:10] thailand : gonna be my new line for anyone grinding on me or haters in my life
[2017-01-21 20:35:27] thailand : " im trying to make a living here dude"
[2017-01-21 20:35:30] Papou : yea would suck if i lost 7-8 btc but ill be ok long run
[2017-01-21 20:35:31] sleger : "market is all long" what does that even mean on a futures platform ?? Dont you know there are as many longs as shorts ?
[2017-01-21 20:35:43] Battlebots : Good morning, friends
[2017-01-21 20:35:44] thailand : even if not wage or job related
[2017-01-21 20:36:29] Papou : when is the party crashing?
[2017-01-21 20:36:31] thailand : someone gives me a bad look in the future...
[2017-01-21 20:36:32] thailand : "I'm trying to make a living here dude"
[2017-01-21 20:36:35] Papou : its funny because pumps are like 30$ a time
[2017-01-21 20:36:38] Papou : dumps are $100+
[2017-01-21 20:37:00] Papou : we have to test 880 support
[2017-01-21 20:37:07] Papou : my shorts close in good profit at 880
[2017-01-21 20:37:16] thailand : yes, you can make a living that way
[2017-01-21 20:37:32] sleger : except when it went from 1030 to 1160
[2017-01-21 20:38:04] Papou : for a second
[2017-01-21 20:38:09] Papou : and only on cny exchanges
[2017-01-21 20:38:17] Papou : bitmiex bitfiniex low 1000 still
[2017-01-21 20:38:23] Papou : it was an exit pump
[2017-01-21 20:38:34] Papou : now they fluffing the market to absorb the margin books closing
[2017-01-21 20:38:39] Papou : then its a sell off due to no volume
[2017-01-21 20:38:44] sleger : sorry to crush your dreams but finex went to 1166
[2017-01-21 20:38:56] Papou : and then panic, massive sell off and we re accumulate
[2017-01-21 20:38:59] Papou : low
[2017-01-21 20:39:46] Papou : still no official word from pboc
[2017-01-21 20:39:58] sleger : its saturday ...
[2017-01-21 20:40:04] Papou : but what we do know is the exchanges arent complying fully, especially BTCC, completely still 100% offering margin
[2017-01-21 20:40:24] Papou : pboc will want to look strong, not weak, will hammer the exchanges, bitcoin dead.
[2017-01-21 20:40:40] thailand : LOL
[2017-01-21 20:40:52] Rado : Papou: why would bitcoin be dead if Chinese exchanges are hammered?
[2017-01-21 20:40:53] thailand : you were just saying we accumulate after massive sell off
[2017-01-21 20:40:55] thailand : now bitcoin is dead
[2017-01-21 20:40:56] Rado : don't follow the logic
[2017-01-21 20:40:58] Papou : bulls will forever eat ramen noodles for life
[2017-01-21 20:41:00] sleger : you should try making a living by being a clown @Papou
[2017-01-21 20:41:09] MikeHunt : well offering internationals margin isnt necessarily against the rules
[2017-01-21 20:41:18] thailand : lmao
[2017-01-21 20:41:30] Papou : rado because go look at the volume. you know coinmarketcap doesnt include it in the average because its all manipulated. scroll down to the ok coin and btcc and huobi btc/cny and see the volume
[2017-01-21 20:41:33] MikeHunt : as long as chinese citizens cant have margin then technically they are doing what pboc said
[2017-01-21 20:41:35] Papou : what do u think when that stops
[2017-01-21 20:41:39] Papou : bitfinex doing 11 mil a day
[2017-01-21 20:41:48] Papou : ok doin, 330, hubo 200m, btcc 400 m
[2017-01-21 20:41:55] Papou : its insane
[2017-01-21 20:42:00] Papou : all from futures
[2017-01-21 20:42:15] Papou : https://cryptowat.ch/okcoin/btcusd-quarterly-futures/5m
[2017-01-21 20:42:16] Rado : Papou: volume doesn't make price go up
[2017-01-21 20:42:19] Papou : go look at that volume
[2017-01-21 20:42:22] Papou : are u kidding me rado
[2017-01-21 20:42:23] Rado : people buying and holding does
[2017-01-21 20:42:26] Papou : do u know where the moves are mad?
[2017-01-21 20:42:36] Papou : look at the volume
[2017-01-21 20:42:39] Papou : https://cryptowat.ch/okcoin/btcusd-quarterly-futures/5m
[2017-01-21 20:42:45] Rado : you can have very low volume and price can still go up if no one is selling
[2017-01-21 20:42:46] Papou : u gotta fix the woodchipper
[2017-01-21 20:42:50] thailand : how did you get a hold of 14 btc papou?
[2017-01-21 20:42:53] Papou : no rado go look
[2017-01-21 20:43:01] Rado : look what?
[2017-01-21 20:43:02] Papou : they are trading 1000 btc walls like nothing
[2017-01-21 20:43:08] Papou : i saw a 15000 btc wall
[2017-01-21 20:43:15] Rado : volume means nothing without knowing how much of it is buys and how much is sells
[2017-01-21 20:43:17] sleger : easy to do with 0 fee
[2017-01-21 20:43:20] Papou : exactly
[2017-01-21 20:43:23] Rado : if they are 50/50 price will be the same
[2017-01-21 20:43:26] Papou : sleger what happens when fees imposed
[2017-01-21 20:43:33] sleger : volume goes down
[2017-01-21 20:43:33] Papou : and margins not offered?
[2017-01-21 20:43:40] Papou : cant sustain 300million daily volume per exchange
[2017-01-21 20:43:44] Papou : the bubble pops
[2017-01-21 20:43:50] MikeHunt : ~35% drop in volume according to calculations by coindesk iirc
[2017-01-21 20:43:56] sleger : ^ logic error
[2017-01-21 20:43:58] Papou : bro people dont even know about btc
[2017-01-21 20:44:02] Papou : u guys are dumb
[2017-01-21 20:44:07] sleger : volume nothing to do with price
[2017-01-21 20:44:11] Papou : china margin is the reason its in the billions guys
[2017-01-21 20:44:16] Papou : go look at the link
[2017-01-21 20:44:16] thailand : LOL
[2017-01-21 20:44:19] thailand : oh lordy lordy
[2017-01-21 20:44:28] Papou : https://cryptowat.ch/ok coin/btcusd-quarterly-futures/5m
[2017-01-21 20:44:32] Rado : Papou: go back to school, need to learn more about the world
[2017-01-21 20:44:32] Papou : fix the space
[2017-01-21 20:44:36] Papou : plz go look rado
[2017-01-21 20:44:38] Papou : watch the volume
[2017-01-21 20:44:39] thedoc : china going for a new high
[2017-01-21 20:44:47] thedoc : dumpers running low on their limited supply of BTC
[2017-01-21 20:44:56] thedoc : unlimited fiat wins again
[2017-01-21 20:45:50] Papou : no thedoc
[2017-01-21 20:45:57] Papou : the bitcoin volume comes from the link im posting, just fix the space
[2017-01-21 20:46:04] Papou : because of the ok coin sensor
[2017-01-21 20:46:11] MikeHunt : i hope it stays where it is for a while so i can get more funding from delusional longs
[2017-01-21 20:46:12] Papou : ok coin cant be spaced
[2017-01-21 20:46:20] Papou : watch the volume there
[2017-01-21 20:46:24] Papou : thats btc
[2017-01-21 20:46:50] Papou : u watching the link rado?
[2017-01-21 20:47:15] sleger : volume might go down, but price ???
[2017-01-21 20:47:18] MikeHunt : im not even sure if a 1x short will be safe once this comes down
[2017-01-21 20:47:56] MikeHunt : the harder this gets pumped, the harder it will come down
[2017-01-21 20:48:25] Papou : exactly
[2017-01-21 20:48:45] Papou : price will go down bro because people cash btc to fiat
[2017-01-21 20:48:47] Papou : they have to
[2017-01-21 20:48:51] Papou : especially the miners
[2017-01-21 20:49:00] sleger : lol
[2017-01-21 20:49:00] Papou : they are milking this until pboc comes out with the official rules
[2017-01-21 20:49:05] sleger : so many stupid arguments
[2017-01-21 20:49:06] Papou : and it will be soul crushing
[2017-01-21 20:49:09] sleger : you're a real clown
[2017-01-21 20:49:15] narnarfromnarnia : 140k ask
[2017-01-21 20:49:15] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2017-01-21 20:49:18] Papou : u are for thinking u will get pumped to riches bro
[2017-01-21 20:49:19] narnarfromnarnia : what's going on
[2017-01-21 20:49:20] Papou : good job
[2017-01-21 20:49:22] Papou : free rides
[2017-01-21 20:49:25] Papou : typical americans
[2017-01-21 20:49:41] MikeHunt : sledger, people resort to slander when they dont have a counter argument
[2017-01-21 20:49:46] thailand : hogs get slaughtered. So do bears if they think high prices need high volumes rofl
[2017-01-21 20:49:52] sleger : MikeHunt: learn how to type
[2017-01-21 20:50:00] sleger : he ignores logic
[2017-01-21 20:50:04] sleger : just like you
[2017-01-21 20:50:13] MikeHunt : sleger: post a counter-argument or remain irrelevant
[2017-01-21 20:50:22] MikeHunt : simply calling people names isnt enough
[2017-01-21 20:50:22] sleger : good thing is in 2 weeks you both wont be here
[2017-01-21 20:50:25] Papou : no sleger
[2017-01-21 20:50:29] sleger : MikeHunt: i did earlier
[2017-01-21 20:50:31] Rado : ha ha
[2017-01-21 20:50:37] Papou : because you dont understand what a 15000 btc dump will do
[2017-01-21 20:50:58] Papou : once china gets out
[2017-01-21 20:51:07] Rado : sleger: I keep watching the chat users go up 100 and down 100. Fluctuating between 600 and 900
[2017-01-21 20:51:08] Papou : the west will rebuild it properly
[2017-01-21 20:51:12] thailand : you don't even need a dump for your position. You're closing it at 880, that is like 5% from the current price
[2017-01-21 20:51:16] Papou : but china pumped this from $1 to $1000
[2017-01-21 20:51:23] sleger : a 15k dump would probably crash the price ~ 150$
[2017-01-21 20:51:28] sleger : by 150$
[2017-01-21 20:51:38] Papou : the whole market is long
[2017-01-21 20:51:54] Papou : why would someone go "hmm, every single person is long, let me start market buying these people into riches"
[2017-01-21 20:51:56] thailand : oh rly?
[2017-01-21 20:51:56] Papou : u mad?
[2017-01-21 20:51:56] sleger : Papou: nobody is short any future ?
[2017-01-21 20:52:07] Papou : means shorts havent started
[2017-01-21 20:52:16] Rado : I wish BitMEX will have the userID next to the name so we know how "new" each user is
[2017-01-21 20:52:22] sleger : nobody short any future ? answer @Papou
[2017-01-21 20:52:26] thailand : whole market is long, but we aren't at 1,000,000
[2017-01-21 20:52:39] thailand : scratching my head
[2017-01-21 20:53:29] thailand : whole market is long with no volume, got it. Crash imminent...
[2017-01-21 20:53:50] Rado : BTC price can not go down with central banks printing like mad. It's impossible since you can't inflate BTC
[2017-01-21 20:54:12] MikeHunt : Rado: you inflate it with irrational hope
[2017-01-21 20:54:12] Rado : Fiat is dead
[2017-01-21 20:54:27] Rado : even if it's designed to be this way
[2017-01-21 20:54:29] Papou : fiat isnt dead bro
[2017-01-21 20:54:30] Papou : lol
[2017-01-21 20:54:32] Papou : u mad
[2017-01-21 20:54:33] Rado : that's the reality
[2017-01-21 20:54:43] MikeHunt : china can back yuan with gold anytime they choose
[2017-01-21 20:54:49] BTCDJS : FIAT is DEAD
[2017-01-21 20:55:01] Rado : MikeHunt: tehy can't
[2017-01-21 20:55:06] MikeHunt : Rado: y not?
[2017-01-21 20:55:09] Papou : whalebear is coming guys
[2017-01-21 20:55:14] Papou : he will eat ur babies
[2017-01-21 20:55:22] Rado : not enough Gold to back Trillions of Yuan
[2017-01-21 20:55:30] sleger : Papou: you still think almost nobody is short futures, that there are only longs ?
[2017-01-21 20:55:46] MikeHunt : Rado: china has a lot more gold imo than they admit to
[2017-01-21 20:55:59] Papou : yep, i saw a 15,000 btc wall at 920
[2017-01-21 20:56:00] thedoc : yes no one is short on futures. only long
[2017-01-21 20:56:02] Rado : sleger: he probably doesn't even know what futures are
[2017-01-21 20:56:04] Papou : it got pulled then price moved
[2017-01-21 20:56:08] sleger : your opinions are also bitcoin is either 80k or 400 ... @MikeHunt
[2017-01-21 20:56:11] Papou : they pumping this
[2017-01-21 20:56:17] Papou : and about to dump on rado's chest
[2017-01-21 20:56:20] thailand : LOL
[2017-01-21 20:56:21] Papou : nice and warm '
[2017-01-21 20:56:33] MikeHunt : sleger: looking like $400 atm
[2017-01-21 20:56:37] thailand : 400 then 80k Mike?
[2017-01-21 20:56:43] Rado : Papou: post some of your trades in here
[2017-01-21 20:56:50] MikeHunt : thailand: yep, the launch pad is at $400
[2017-01-21 20:56:57] MikeHunt : ;)
[2017-01-21 20:57:04] narnarfromnarnia : bull trap
[2017-01-21 20:57:05] CaptainDean : Papou: you know jackshit what is going to happen that's prettty much it
[2017-01-21 20:57:05] sleger : thank you as usual @MikeHunt Do you not realize that everyone makes fun of you ? It's not just me...
[2017-01-21 20:57:20] MikeHunt : sleger: yes there are many cunts around here
[2017-01-21 20:57:57] Rado : MikeHunt: how old are you?
[2017-01-21 20:58:07] MikeHunt : Rado: old enough to bang yo mom
[2017-01-21 20:58:16] sleger : ^ what i thought
[2017-01-21 20:58:18] MikeHunt : but young enough for it to seem weird
[2017-01-21 20:58:21] sleger : 21?
[2017-01-21 20:58:21] thailand : the man was just asking you lol
[2017-01-21 20:58:45] Rado : you sound very inexperienced, but not sure if you are just yang or dumb
[2017-01-21 20:59:23] Rado : hope you are not over 25
[2017-01-21 21:01:41] Rado : Allegedly, the People's Bank of China is researching RMBCoin, their own centralized altcoin. You can't even make this up.. $RMB
[2017-01-21 21:01:47] Rado : https://twitter.com/CollinCrypto/status/822622316882460674
[2017-01-21 21:03:51] Rado : Papou: Shorted at $912, but had to cover $921. Going long now at $921 so I can sell at $915
[2017-01-21 21:04:19] Rado : sleger: where is our friend rapid?
[2017-01-21 21:04:21] thailand : lmao
[2017-01-21 21:04:51] Rado : thailand: are you from Thailand or just a nikcname?
[2017-01-21 21:05:29] thailand : Rado: I live here now, but I am not Thai
[2017-01-21 21:05:39] Rado : cool
[2017-01-21 21:05:43] Rado : I will be there in March
[2017-01-21 21:06:23] Rado : Koh Lanta, Krabi, Koh Samui, Koh Pangang, Bangkok and Chang Mai
[2017-01-21 21:06:23] narnarfromnarnia : Rado: you booked your trip?
[2017-01-21 21:06:46] narnarfromnarnia : this ask of 130k is fishy
[2017-01-21 21:06:52] Rado : Yes, I am doing a 6 months World Trip with my family
[2017-01-21 21:06:57] thailand : Rado: oh nice, how long? You come often?
[2017-01-21 21:07:12] Rado : will be my first time
[2017-01-21 21:07:12] narnarfromnarnia : krabi stay in ao nang
[2017-01-21 21:07:23] narnarfromnarnia : that's where my place is
[2017-01-21 21:07:24] Rado : narnarfromnarnia: that is where I booked
[2017-01-21 21:07:27] Rado : in the hills
[2017-01-21 21:07:34] narnarfromnarnia : yea railay beach is fun
[2017-01-21 21:07:40] Rado : :-)
[2017-01-21 21:07:54] narnarfromnarnia : but its closed down a bit since the business's were on gov property
[2017-01-21 21:08:05] narnarfromnarnia : army came through and cleared some of the cooler spots
[2017-01-21 21:08:14] narnarfromnarnia : koh lanta is awesome
[2017-01-21 21:08:19] thailand : Rado: You picked some good places for the first time. I live right in the heart of Bangkok haha
[2017-01-21 21:08:25] narnarfromnarnia : i used to fight at williams stadium there
[2017-01-21 21:08:38] narnarfromnarnia : thailand: soi nana?
[2017-01-21 21:08:39] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2017-01-21 21:09:05] thailand : na, not into that scene, just the normal club scene is more my taste :P
[2017-01-21 21:09:11] Rado : might meet you for a beer ;-)
[2017-01-21 21:09:26] thailand : young enough I don't have to go that route lol
[2017-01-21 21:09:48] narnarfromnarnia : thailand: well yea there's a lot of good clubs
[2017-01-21 21:09:52] narnarfromnarnia : nana is for old geezers
[2017-01-21 21:10:00] narnarfromnarnia : lived there for 4yrs
[2017-01-21 21:10:10] narnarfromnarnia : but in krabi and bkk
[2017-01-21 21:10:20] narnarfromnarnia : but i lived in boxing camps
[2017-01-21 21:10:33] Rado : narnarfromnarnia: where are you from?
[2017-01-21 21:10:47] narnarfromnarnia : originally ca
[2017-01-21 21:10:52] narnarfromnarnia : us
[2017-01-21 21:10:56] Rado : k
[2017-01-21 21:11:04] narnarfromnarnia : but i prefer prague to live
[2017-01-21 21:11:21] narnarfromnarnia : had asians for too long
[2017-01-21 21:11:30] narnarfromnarnia : blonde czech girls better now
[2017-01-21 21:11:34] thailand : narnarfromnarnia: how old are you if I may ask?
[2017-01-21 21:11:37] Rado : Prague is nice
[2017-01-21 21:11:43] thailand : too bad you're not in BKK anymore
[2017-01-21 21:11:48] thailand : Yes, Prague is lovely
[2017-01-21 21:11:50] narnarfromnarnia : 30 now
[2017-01-21 21:12:03] thailand : ah okay, not far off, 28
[2017-01-21 21:12:04] narnarfromnarnia : i lived in bobay at a temple kinda near khao san
[2017-01-21 21:12:16] narnarfromnarnia : all the badass fighters are my buds
[2017-01-21 21:12:32] narnarfromnarnia : so then i would go back out to krabi and fight there and kick ass lol
[2017-01-21 21:12:42] narnarfromnarnia : rado go see rajadamnern
[2017-01-21 21:12:48] narnarfromnarnia : at least one night
[2017-01-21 21:12:49] thailand : you stay here for training muay thai mostly then?
[2017-01-21 21:13:06] narnarfromnarnia : yea but when i would get injured i take a party break
[2017-01-21 21:13:08] narnarfromnarnia : or if i won too
[2017-01-21 21:13:25] narnarfromnarnia : usually the farang with stiches on his face from boxing
[2017-01-21 21:13:31] narnarfromnarnia : and speak fluent
[2017-01-21 21:13:48] thailand : and on bitmex trading swaps and futures in bitcoin
[2017-01-21 21:13:51] thailand : interesting world
[2017-01-21 21:13:59] narnarfromnarnia : lol i was trading on gox when i lived there
[2017-01-21 21:14:06] narnarfromnarnia : 88btc gone now
[2017-01-21 21:14:12] thailand : :(
[2017-01-21 21:14:20] narnarfromnarnia : but i did ecommerce and had a team in vietnam too
[2017-01-21 21:14:27] narnarfromnarnia : so the timezone was perfect to live there
[2017-01-21 21:14:33] narnarfromnarnia : vietnam sucked
[2017-01-21 21:14:37] narnarfromnarnia : laos is rad
[2017-01-21 21:14:44] narnarfromnarnia : go to vang vien
[2017-01-21 21:14:58] thailand : gotcha, I only was there for a month. Hard for us Americans anyways with the visa too
[2017-01-21 21:15:08] thailand : Vietnam
[2017-01-21 21:16:38] thailand : I need to get out of here truthfully. Need to become a 'grown up' lol
[2017-01-21 21:21:30] narnarfromnarnia : haha it's easy life there
[2017-01-21 21:21:32] narnarfromnarnia : enjoy it
[2017-01-21 21:21:35] narnarfromnarnia : thailfriendly it up
[2017-01-21 21:22:08] narnarfromnarnia : but i know the feeling when it' time to go
[2017-01-21 21:22:16] narnarfromnarnia : feels really good to get out for a bit too
[2017-01-21 21:22:21] narnarfromnarnia : but then you want to go right back
[2017-01-21 21:24:04] narnarfromnarnia : i wouldn't be in bkk though for more than a month or so at a time
[2017-01-21 21:24:09] narnarfromnarnia : 2 max
[2017-01-21 21:24:15] narnarfromnarnia : the country is much better
[2017-01-21 21:26:05] thailand : yeh, I've been here for near one year so gives you a little perspective. WIth only some minor breaks in between haha
[2017-01-21 21:26:29] thailand : minor breaks being full moon party twice and heading down south mostly
[2017-01-21 21:32:07] rangle : is new year celebration coming up?
[2017-01-21 21:32:38] BTCDJS : Last chance to get on the ETC train
[2017-01-21 21:44:35] MikeHunt : rangle: in 2 weeks
[2017-01-21 21:47:54] thedoc : i agree BTCDJS. how long can it go sideways before the buyers step in
[2017-01-21 21:54:12] BTCDJS : could be soon. could be a few days. Dont really know
[2017-01-21 21:59:01] Rado : BTCDJS: why would ETC go up?
[2017-01-21 22:01:06] Farzad : Hey guys, what is this Stops tab ?
[2017-01-21 22:01:15] Farzad : Is it for stop losses ?
[2017-01-21 22:01:27] Farzad : how can I add a stop loss for my order ?
[2017-01-21 22:03:20] rangle : theres additional order types on the arrow drop down next to market and limit order types
[2017-01-21 22:03:24] Rado : Farzad: click on the tab, enter yourstop price, click buy or sell depending on if you have a long or a short position
[2017-01-21 22:06:41] Farzad : Thank you for your replies guys :)
[2017-01-21 22:11:21] Farzad : I deposited my first BTC into BitMex
[2017-01-21 22:11:26] Farzad : wish me luck boys
[2017-01-21 22:13:35] MikeHunt : Farzad: go easy on lvg
[2017-01-21 22:13:38] MikeHunt : or get rekt
[2017-01-21 22:15:43] Farzad : I have many years of experience in forex trading ;)
[2017-01-21 22:16:01] Farzad : Thanks for the tip though
[2017-01-21 22:16:17] Farzad : Actually I am going to use 1x leverage. lol
[2017-01-21 22:18:06] Nooby : Matthias?????
[2017-01-21 22:18:32] Farzad : Who us Matthias ?
[2017-01-21 22:18:35] Farzad : is *
[2017-01-21 22:28:41] BTCKing : 1x leverage? What's the point? Getting above 3x is risky if you don't know what you're doing (myself I'm comfortable with 10 - 15x) but there's really no point in not using at least 3x
[2017-01-21 22:29:28] Farzad : It is just a hedge position
[2017-01-21 22:29:47] Farzad : I want to minimize the risk of ADL
[2017-01-21 22:30:09] rangle : can i hold spot XBT and earn interest on it while staying long BTC?
[2017-01-21 22:30:34] Farzad : sure
[2017-01-21 22:34:31] Farzad : does anyone know how ROE% is calculated ?
[2017-01-21 22:35:28] rangle : https://www.bitmex.com/app/pnlGuide
[2017-01-21 22:36:25] Farzad : It doesnt explain the ROE%
[2017-01-21 22:36:36] Rado : Farzad: profit/invested amount*100
[2017-01-21 22:37:16] Rado : keep in mind that invested amount is not the same as nominal trade amount
[2017-01-21 22:37:40] Farzad : it seems the invested amount is actually the used margin for the trade
[2017-01-21 22:37:49] Apocalyptic : Farzad: it is
[2017-01-21 22:38:07] Farzad : Thanks
[2017-01-21 22:38:23] Farzad : Actually BitMex has the best interface in all Bitcoin exchanges
[2017-01-21 22:38:34] Farzad : I wonder why it is not more popular
[2017-01-21 22:39:07] Farzad : I know it is not regulated
[2017-01-21 22:39:14] Farzad : bit neither is btc-e
[2017-01-21 22:39:41] BTCKing : Farzad: Because it's not a Bitcoin exchange. Bitmex is a derivatives market. Also the stops on here lag like a mofo
[2017-01-21 22:40:22] BTCKing : You can't exchange BTC for USD on here. That's why it's Bitstamp, Bitfinex, Kraken, BTC-e moving the market and so forth
[2017-01-21 22:40:38] Farzad : I understand it
[2017-01-21 22:40:51] Farzad : but for BTC speculative trade
[2017-01-21 22:40:55] Farzad : it is even better
[2017-01-21 22:41:22] Farzad : may be fees are lower there ?
[2017-01-21 22:41:44] BTCKing : Fees are lower here actually.
[2017-01-21 22:42:13] BTCKing : But like i said Bitmex isn't an exchange. The big exchanges have lots of volume too and deep order books.
[2017-01-21 22:42:15] Farzad : I remember some people were complaining about fees of BitMex on reddit
[2017-01-21 22:43:06] Farzad : the more people start ti use bitmex, a deeper order book and higher volume and liquidity it would have
[2017-01-21 22:43:40] Farzad : I guess it is a little complicated for some novice traders
[2017-01-21 22:44:29] Farzad : and as you said it is not an exchange
[2017-01-21 22:44:44] BTCKing : Sure but doesn't change that it's still a synthetic product with huge amount of counter party risk compared t other exchanges. Myself I'm trading on here and Bitfinex I like being able to collect gains and hold them in USD if the market crashes. Here I can't hold USD only try and increase my Bitcoin holdings based on usd/btc performance.
[2017-01-21 22:47:00] BTCDJS : Rado: https://twitter.com/philfrancis77/status/822444643199631361
[2017-01-21 22:47:36] Rado : Thanks
[2017-01-21 22:47:37] BTCDJS : It may not. But I think it will because of hype.
[2017-01-21 22:49:44] Apocalyptic : "But like i said Bitmex isn't an exchange" what
[2017-01-21 22:49:49] Apocalyptic : of course it is
[2017-01-21 22:50:45] BTCKing : You can only deposit withdraw BTC from Bitmex. You can't exchange BTC for USD and than withdraw/deposit one or the other @Apocalyptic
[2017-01-21 22:51:32] BTCKing : I hesitate to call something an "exchange" when you can't actually exchange currency pairs.
[2017-01-21 22:54:45] Farzad : Apocalyptic: I agree with BTCKing
[2017-01-21 22:55:06] Rado : You exchange derivatives
[2017-01-21 22:55:15] Apocalyptic : BTCKing: you exchange "contracts" her
[2017-01-21 22:55:24] BTCDJS : Where does one trade derivatives markets?
[2017-01-21 22:55:50] BTCDJS : St an exchange.
[2017-01-21 22:55:54] BTCDJS : mic drop
[2017-01-21 22:56:05] Apocalyptic : an exchange doesn't necessarily mean you can withdraw multiple currencies
[2017-01-21 22:56:20] Apocalyptic : it has literraly nothing to do with it
[2017-01-21 22:56:57] BTCKing : Apocalyptic: Well as you said, we do exchange contracts here. Guess it depends on what you want to define as a "Bitcoin exchange"
[2017-01-21 22:57:57] Apocalyptic : I never mentionned "Bitcoin exchange" either, but it is pointless
[2017-01-21 22:58:13] Farzad : Question boys, I opened my first position a few minutes ago and it already has a negative Realised PNL. is it the commission of the trade ?
[2017-01-21 22:58:53] Apocalyptic : Farzad: correct
[2017-01-21 22:59:27] Farzad : Apocalyptic: Thanks
[2017-01-21 23:11:23] thedoc : lol i longed the top
[2017-01-21 23:11:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 15000 @ 6372.8
[2017-01-21 23:14:34] MikeHunt : i warned the end was nigh
[2017-01-21 23:15:45] sleger : what happened, did the price drop by 3$ ?
[2017-01-21 23:15:53] Farzad : how do u share your trades ?
[2017-01-21 23:16:02] thedoc : screen shots
[2017-01-21 23:16:02] Farzad : type it manually ?
[2017-01-21 23:16:27] Farzad : No, I mean like what REKT sent few mins ago
[2017-01-21 23:16:31] sleger : that or copy and paste if you know how it works
[2017-01-21 23:16:40] thedoc : or set up a bot
[2017-01-21 23:27:24] aethlios : time stopped in btc?? nothing moving??
[2017-01-21 23:27:58] BTCDJS : Arch coin moving to ETC blockchain
[2017-01-21 23:28:17] BTCDJS : aethlios: slow moon
[2017-01-21 23:28:42] BTCDJS : from 730-980
[2017-01-21 23:30:04] BTCDJS : Ha! Someone froze trading
[2017-01-21 23:33:28] BTCDJS : http://m.forbes.com/sites/debraborchardt/2017/01/20/5-ways-trump-could-affect-the-marijuana-industry/#137b67572ed7
[2017-01-21 23:33:52] BTCDJS : If only bitcoin made people high
[2017-01-21 23:34:07] BTCDJS : market cap would be huge
[2017-01-21 23:38:33] BTCDJS : People would buy in bigly
[2017-01-21 23:39:13] BTCDJS : The support for bitcoin would be tremendous
[2017-01-21 23:47:34] Kinda : If I get liquidated do I lose more btc than what it cost me?
[2017-01-21 23:49:55] BTCDJS : No you only lose the margin you put in
[2017-01-21 23:53:03] Kinda : The bull is strong
[2017-01-21 23:55:28] thedoc : lol arch coin
[2017-01-21 23:55:36] thedoc : is that coin still on bittrex
[2017-01-21 23:56:38] thedoc : that shit went under 200 sat. LOL
[2017-01-21 23:56:54] thedoc : i remember reading bitcointalk about people buying that shit. bagholders still i bet
[2017-01-21 23:57:32] Kinda : What s the trend atm bull ? Trying to learn
[2017-01-21 23:57:38] thedoc : bull yes
[2017-01-21 23:57:44] thedoc : look at the 1 week
[2017-01-21 23:58:02] thedoc : it seems like a big dump till you zoom out and see the price is way higher than before
[2017-01-21 23:58:44] aethlios : this is a recovery rally from crash to 700, a slow volume retrace a bull trap, that's my guess
[2017-01-21 23:59:06] thedoc : up 12% this week
[2017-01-21 23:59:57] Kinda : Will it hit 1000 again you think ? Or it will retrace to sub 900
[2017-01-22 00:00:03] thedoc : gonna hit 940 soon. then probably dump a bit. after the dump then moon
[2017-01-22 00:00:39] MikeHunt : thedoc: and if it doesnt? how fucked are you?
[2017-01-22 00:00:43] thedoc : seems the dumping is over. hit $750 and then bounced to oer 900
[2017-01-22 00:00:54] thedoc : i'm long now
[2017-01-22 00:01:19] thedoc : longed 903. closed thinking it was gonna dump. relonged 922 xbth17
[2017-01-22 00:01:48] thedoc : i'll probably close when xbth17 hits over 950 and short assuming there is a dump once 940 is hit
[2017-01-22 00:01:56] thedoc : that's the plan
[2017-01-22 00:02:07] thedoc : 940 on bitstamp
[2017-01-22 00:02:44] thedoc : then probably a 20 dollar dump to test 920 support
[2017-01-22 00:03:50] Kinda : Moon 1k2 than crash like before :p?
[2017-01-22 00:10:50] Kinda : thedoc: xbth17 are the btc contracts in usd ?
[2017-01-22 00:11:50] Papou : its not dumping
[2017-01-22 00:12:04] Papou : support looks good so far, broke through 920 resistance
[2017-01-22 00:12:15] Papou : looks like it will go back to over 1000
[2017-01-22 00:12:30] Papou : i would keep longs open until over 1000
[2017-01-22 00:12:49] Papou : i guess whales being generous and pumping free money LOL \
[2017-01-22 00:13:10] Kinda : Papou: wow a rally again , you changed your mind maybe btc comes from ppl
[2017-01-22 00:13:18] Kinda : Average ppl
[2017-01-22 00:18:45] sleger : Papou: are you suffering from schizophrenia ?
[2017-01-22 00:21:06] thedoc : Kinda: not sure what you mean exactly
[2017-01-22 00:22:49] kjzsbtby : Any ideas on btc? 8v
[2017-01-22 00:24:01] bingbongfly : breakout weho
[2017-01-22 00:24:20] abbey : Papou: u said u were short
[2017-01-22 00:24:32] thedoc : 6451 cny. china trying to break it
[2017-01-22 00:25:22] abbey : and btc dead? @Papou
[2017-01-22 00:26:17] abbey : hard to decide, huh?
[2017-01-22 00:26:23] Papou : nah they are giving a free ride
[2017-01-22 00:26:26] Papou : im still short xbtusd
[2017-01-22 00:26:31] Papou : im bulling future and cny
[2017-01-22 00:27:10] Papou : easy money
[2017-01-22 00:27:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 445 @ 921.35
[2017-01-22 00:27:36] abbey : i don't get you. But never mind, good luck to you @Papou
[2017-01-22 00:27:37] Papou : ill take free money any day
[2017-01-22 00:27:47] Papou : abbey i dont gamble
[2017-01-22 00:27:54] Papou : my liquidation is 1800 now
[2017-01-22 00:27:58] Papou : for xbtusd
[2017-01-22 00:28:04] Papou : ill catch the short one day
[2017-01-22 00:28:16] Papou : but they clearly are giving a free ride so they can get sells over 1000 again so ill ride it
[2017-01-22 00:28:20] abbey : Papou: u don't make money either
[2017-01-22 00:28:26] Papou : abbey my account has 22 btc now
[2017-01-22 00:28:28] Papou : yes i do
[2017-01-22 00:28:55] narnarfromnarnia : Papou: there's also a lot of leveraged shorts that need to close
[2017-01-22 00:29:05] abbey : ok, good luck with your strategies
[2017-01-22 00:29:05] Papou : they have
[2017-01-22 00:29:06] Papou : into the walls
[2017-01-22 00:29:53] BTCKing : Papou: How many BTC did your account start off at?
[2017-01-22 00:30:29] Papou : ive made 2.5 here
[2017-01-22 00:30:32] Papou : i funded it so i dont get liquidated
[2017-01-22 00:30:38] Papou : and i can trade safely
[2017-01-22 00:30:47] Papou : and average properly
[2017-01-22 00:31:18] BTCKing : wow, break out. New 24 hours high :)
[2017-01-22 00:32:02] Ahhere : BTCKing: yep
[2017-01-22 00:34:43] paniktrade : no breakout, too many plebs shouting breakout :D
[2017-01-22 00:34:53] paniktrade : self defeating prophecy
[2017-01-22 00:38:03] rowrow : if everyone thought it was going to breakout, it would become a self-fulfilling prophecy
[2017-01-22 00:38:55] paniktrade : so everyone would be making money !
[2017-01-22 00:38:59] paniktrade : wow such nice market
[2017-01-22 00:39:01] rowrow : on paper, yes
[2017-01-22 00:39:04] Papou : it will bitfinex putting up walls
[2017-01-22 00:39:10] Papou : 920 new support
[2017-01-22 00:39:16] Papou : will test 940-950
[2017-01-22 00:39:17] Ahhere : paniktrade: bitfinex highest price since 2 weeks
[2017-01-22 00:39:50] rowrow : you could sell slips of green paper and if everyone kept buying them, everyone would be richer on paper until the market collapsed
[2017-01-22 00:39:50] paniktrade : Ahhere: by like 2 cens
[2017-01-22 00:39:57] paniktrade : cents*
[2017-01-22 00:40:19] rangle : you have green paper slips for trade? whats your price?
[2017-01-22 00:40:22] rowrow : not saying that applies to bitcoin, just its how market works
[2017-01-22 00:40:31] rowrow : $800, less than cost of a btc
[2017-01-22 00:41:07] thedoc : ltc mining hashrate way up
[2017-01-22 00:41:14] paniktrade : hmm but then if im selling slips of green paper that are worth looads wouldnt i become poorer? why would i give out free money
[2017-01-22 00:41:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 20 @ 922.61
[2017-01-22 00:41:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 922.85
[2017-01-22 00:41:33] thedoc : new btc high
[2017-01-22 00:41:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 500 @ 6528.4
[2017-01-22 00:41:36] thedoc : should have 100x longed it
[2017-01-22 00:41:41] thedoc : btc is king
[2017-01-22 00:41:45] Apocalyptic : the moon is beautiful today
[2017-01-22 00:41:56] paniktrade : rowrow: but i kknow what u mean
[2017-01-22 00:41:57] thedoc : rip those shorting
[2017-01-22 00:42:20] Apocalyptic : ri rapidtrades