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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2015-11-04 22:18:14] joequant : i think it's going to go up again. [2015-11-04 22:18:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : AudibleScience: Oh got it. Yeah that would be great [2015-11-04 22:18:38] stf28 : double bottom ? [2015-11-04 22:18:48] joequant : it doesn't feel like the end of a bubble. [2015-11-04 22:18:50] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : stf28: That sounds great [2015-11-04 22:19:24] stf28 : exactly the same patterns than the 2013 rally [2015-11-04 22:19:40] stf28 : pumping, evaluation, action, pumping etc [2015-11-04 22:19:58] joequant : also there are some stunning arbs in some of the asian exchanges. [2015-11-04 22:20:08] joequant : people still have buy orders at 470 [2015-11-04 22:20:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : stf28: I wasn't aware of Bitcoin until the very end up it so I'll take your word for it [2015-11-04 22:20:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Can't wait to see how things look in a month [2015-11-04 22:20:26] kilrari : I'm reshorting at 370 [2015-11-04 22:20:33] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 470? [2015-11-04 22:20:44] kilrari : 470 lol [2015-11-04 22:21:08] joequant : there are two resistance levels. One at 450 usd / 3000 cny [2015-11-04 22:21:21] joequant : my guess is that we'll stabilize there. [2015-11-04 22:21:37] joequant : one of two things will happen. [2015-11-04 22:21:45] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : This is just insane that the 5 minute chart I'm looking at has a range > $100 [2015-11-04 22:21:51] joequant : either things will keep at 450 or pop up to 600 [2015-11-04 22:22:26] dynamike23 : my guess is way below 3000 or above it - not even close to it [2015-11-04 22:22:35] stf28 : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: you can look the trading history at tradingview, they keep the mtgox chart it's very helpful [2015-11-04 22:22:41] kilrari : 450 looks right for the pullback from this dump [2015-11-04 22:22:43] wurstgelee : crawling back up [2015-11-04 22:22:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : stf28: Thanks for the tip [2015-11-04 22:23:20] AudibleScience : joequant: either of those options sound great right now! but we could go further down no? [2015-11-04 22:24:34] AudibleScience : this has been an epic dumpy day... [2015-11-04 22:25:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : AudibleScience: Yes, and an epic pumpy day to start ot [2015-11-04 22:25:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *start out [2015-11-04 22:25:42] wurstgelee : gimme :) [2015-11-04 22:26:17] AudibleScience : yeah the last bunch of days have been epic pumpy days! [2015-11-04 22:27:16] AudibleScience : I'm so high on hopium righ now, I don't know what I'm saying! I just hope we don't have more dumpage and lots of good pumpage now! lol [2015-11-04 22:27:53] wurstgelee : hehe [2015-11-04 22:28:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Haha I'm totally with you on that [2015-11-04 22:28:21] stf28 : yes hopium... so strong... i'm out of this until i feel strong confirmation that the bull is still inside [2015-11-04 22:28:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : stf28: So, after we hit $500 again? ;) [2015-11-04 22:31:14] kasman5 : whos in the market right now [2015-11-04 22:31:46] AudibleScience : I am [2015-11-04 22:31:52] wurstgelee : small long [2015-11-04 22:31:56] wurstgelee : really small [2015-11-04 22:32:05] wurstgelee : hopium-driven ;) [2015-11-04 22:32:09] j8 : almost out. got a small long on 7D just at 426.69 from this dump [2015-11-04 22:32:28] nickhnt : got out [2015-11-04 22:32:30] nickhnt : hurted :( [2015-11-04 22:32:55] wurstgelee : i demand finex to go to china-levels [2015-11-04 22:32:58] wurstgelee : that would be 45$ up [2015-11-04 22:32:59] wurstgelee : ;) [2015-11-04 22:33:56] AudibleScience : I would say really small, but after that massive dump I lost 4 coins! so it's a massive position to my account size now. :-( [2015-11-04 22:34:09] wurstgelee : ouch, thats risky [2015-11-04 22:35:10] j8 : yeah a lot of people must have got wrecked there, premium is down a bit too [2015-11-04 22:35:44] AudibleScience : yeah... and my long is from way up there at 459.89 [2015-11-04 22:36:00] j8 : not so bad [2015-11-04 22:36:18] habibi : we have 1.5 h more to make daily stick red, hopefully not [2015-11-04 22:36:39] Liivet : My guess is that the price will stay at this level until the auction is over [2015-11-04 22:36:57] habibi : auction has no influence at all [2015-11-04 22:36:58] wurstgelee : oh, going down more... [2015-11-04 22:36:58] Liivet : then its guy fawkes [2015-11-04 22:37:04] habibi : specially on chinese players [2015-11-04 22:37:51] wurstgelee : this will smash right through 400 [2015-11-04 22:37:53] AudibleScience : wow! that's me totally destroyed! [2015-11-04 22:38:11] AudibleScience : back down to 0.0007 [2015-11-04 22:38:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : AudibleScience: Ouch. Sorry to hear that [2015-11-04 22:38:31] Scottv53 : stf28: i hope you right about the pump pattern resemblance to mt gox, we need okcoin at 3000+ [2015-11-04 22:38:48] habibi : and up [2015-11-04 22:38:48] wurstgelee : wtf is happening @ finex [2015-11-04 22:39:19] anti_racist : anyone else waiting for hours for deposits/withdrawals? [2015-11-04 22:39:45] jung1 : nope [2015-11-04 22:40:03] anti_racist : fucking waiting for almost 9 hours now poloniex > bitmex [2015-11-04 22:40:10] wurstgelee : more dumping [2015-11-04 22:40:17] habibi : red candle [2015-11-04 22:40:19] habibi : big problems :D [2015-11-04 22:40:33] jung1 : ok see you on $300 [2015-11-04 22:40:57] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Sam: are you still here? [2015-11-04 22:41:10] jung1 : anti_racist: https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions yeah you are not only one [2015-11-04 22:42:01] wurstgelee : omfg [2015-11-04 22:42:15] Liivet : this is some serious planned whale action. [2015-11-04 22:42:17] jung1 : 300 easy [2015-11-04 22:42:26] Liivet : its going way down [2015-11-04 22:42:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : What is Finex doing? Already way below China and dumping hard [2015-11-04 22:42:36] kasman5 : down [2015-11-04 22:42:52] dynamike23 : finex, you're drunk! [2015-11-04 22:43:00] dynamike23 : somebody call a doctor [2015-11-04 22:43:24] habibi : or hitman better [2015-11-04 22:43:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: [2015-11-04 22:43:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Good idea [2015-11-04 22:43:55] podizzler3000 : congrats bitmex [2015-11-04 22:43:59] podizzler3000 : im ded [2015-11-04 22:44:03] zanza : RIP [2015-11-04 22:44:20] jung1 : Im 700% profit now [2015-11-04 22:44:22] dynamike23 : 2800 broken! [2015-11-04 22:44:25] podizzler3000 : back to day job. hopium is out [2015-11-04 22:44:25] AudibleScience : Best of luck to everyone trading this. I'm out for a good while now... need to lick these wounds! lol [2015-11-04 22:44:30] jung1 : went short at 438 [2015-11-04 22:44:42] dynamike23 : jung1: you're the man today [2015-11-04 22:44:43] AudibleScience : jung1: you da man! [2015-11-04 22:45:09] jung1 : yeah quite good day [2015-11-04 22:45:27] dynamike23 : bitmex is awesome if you got a good gameplan [2015-11-04 22:45:30] Liivet : I was at 550 before i flipped :S regret that now :P [2015-11-04 22:45:38] zanza : what is happening [2015-11-04 22:45:44] habibi : 2700 down [2015-11-04 22:45:46] dynamike23 : 2700 [2015-11-04 22:45:52] Liivet : whales ar prepearing for november 5th [2015-11-04 22:46:02] j8 : still $540 bid on `XBTH16`, go get some [2015-11-04 22:46:44] wurstgelee : brutal [2015-11-04 22:46:53] habibi : lel finex [2015-11-04 22:46:54] wurstgelee : finex just wont stop [2015-11-04 22:46:56] habibi : what are u doing [2015-11-04 22:46:57] habibi : ;D [2015-11-04 22:47:08] habibi : its not even death bleeding [2015-11-04 22:47:20] jung1 : wtf 1150% [2015-11-04 22:47:25] dynamike23 : finex [2015-11-04 22:47:30] jung1 : I think its good time to close it [2015-11-04 22:47:34] stf28 : now i tell you this is bottom [2015-11-04 22:47:39] stf28 : you see this V shape [2015-11-04 22:48:09] wurstgelee : maybe.....does finex know this? [2015-11-04 22:48:16] dynamike23 : BTC-E ABOVE FINEX lol [2015-11-04 22:48:17] babybaby : i dont get this site. i put SHORT order and it never went [2015-11-04 22:48:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Holy fuck. I wouldn't even be surprised at $100 per coin at this point. WTF [2015-11-04 22:49:26] jung1 : 26$ spread? [2015-11-04 22:49:31] wurstgelee : yep [2015-11-04 22:49:52] stf28 : it's nothing we just touched the 200ma [2015-11-04 22:49:56] babybaby : btc-e above finex = we are going down [2015-11-04 22:50:27] zanza : i think we hit a floor soon [2015-11-04 22:51:29] zanza : finexx leading volume ??? [2015-11-04 22:52:11] zanza : wow, look at `XBT24H` orderbook [2015-11-04 22:52:20] zanza : 100k+ [2015-11-04 22:52:20] babybaby : short it, its easy money [2015-11-04 22:52:24] joequant : btc-e > bitfinex we are doing up [2015-11-04 22:52:35] joequant : someone is flashing bitfinex [2015-11-04 22:52:55] joequant : the chinese exchanges are not following [2015-11-04 22:53:29] wurstgelee : they are [2015-11-04 22:53:48] wurstgelee : finex is way below china [2015-11-04 22:53:52] wurstgelee : it has to move up [2015-11-04 22:53:53] zanza : $120 price swing in 1 day = 25% [2015-11-04 22:54:43] dynamike23 : thats like a $1 swing for ltc [2015-11-04 22:55:27] joequant : someone is dumping coin on finex [2015-11-04 22:55:41] Yumi : cleared liquidation on H16, retraced enough to clean up daily's well done! [2015-11-04 22:55:42] zanza : 20k volume on finex [2015-11-04 22:55:53] dynamike23 : brace for more [2015-11-04 22:56:29] zanza : bfxdata is lagging, showing 450 price [2015-11-04 22:56:57] Scottv53 : dynamike23: what do you mean? [2015-11-04 22:57:49] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : No more catching falling knives for me after that. Wiped clean [2015-11-04 22:57:51] dynamike23 : Scottv53: we're not settling here [2015-11-04 22:58:42] Scottv53 : dynamike23: what your take? [2015-11-04 22:58:57] AudibleScience : I decided to stay for a while and just play with whatever dust I've got... this day can only get better from: £0.1783 lol [2015-11-04 22:59:06] Scottv53 : i mean understanding. [2015-11-04 22:59:39] dynamike23 : Scottv53: im no expert but we just blasted through some key floors.. nothing is safe [2015-11-04 22:59:56] AudibleScience : I'm already up to £0.2809 yay! [2015-11-04 23:00:37] zanza : graz bro, buy me dinner? [2015-11-04 23:01:28] dynamike23 : jung1 should buy dinner ;) [2015-11-04 23:01:44] jung1 : 10.000btc pizza for everyone [2015-11-04 23:01:47] zanza : im in for that [2015-11-04 23:01:56] AudibleScience : me too lol [2015-11-04 23:02:12] dynamike23 : sweet [2015-11-04 23:03:04] wurstgelee : weekly chart still doesnt look so bad tho ;) [2015-11-04 23:03:27] joequant : cool. no idea which way it's going to go. it could go down to 200 or up to 500. [2015-11-04 23:03:27] dynamike23 : on the plus side, for those that missed the ride from $400 to $500, welcome [2015-11-04 23:03:52] zanza : volume is kinda of low [2015-11-04 23:03:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : dynamike23: Haha think it's going to happen again? [2015-11-04 23:04:11] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: I noticed that. One would think we'd be bouncing a lot faster. Kind of worrying [2015-11-04 23:04:15] dynamike23 : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: probably not in this manner [2015-11-04 23:04:18] jung1 : if we will not break 2700 in night should go up [2015-11-04 23:04:20] jung1 : if not [2015-11-04 23:04:26] jung1 : freefall [2015-11-04 23:04:27] zanza : China sleeping ? [2015-11-04 23:04:35] wurstgelee : yep, waking up soon [2015-11-04 23:04:41] dynamike23 : 7:00AM beijing [2015-11-04 23:04:44] wurstgelee : but i assume btc kept them awake ;) [2015-11-04 23:04:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: 7 AM there [2015-11-04 23:04:48] zanza : *gulp* [2015-11-04 23:05:02] dynamike23 : could be an epic bull run starting today, who knows ;) [2015-11-04 23:05:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : OKCoin still dumping. What do they know that we don't? [2015-11-04 23:05:25] jung1 : better tommorow [2015-11-04 23:05:26] wurstgelee : lol no [2015-11-04 23:05:29] wurstgelee : not again please [2015-11-04 23:05:30] wurstgelee : oO [2015-11-04 23:05:33] Yumi : 2600-2650 looks like good target [2015-11-04 23:05:36] jung1 : after 24h close [2015-11-04 23:05:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Other than where everyone's stops are... [2015-11-04 23:06:26] dynamike23 : for perspective, we started Nov1 at ~2200 [2015-11-04 23:07:42] dynamike23 : if we assume that at least some of the volume going up consisted of wash trades, the bleeding might not be over [2015-11-04 23:08:18] dynamike23 : but volatility is nice for futures no? [2015-11-04 23:08:24] wurstgelee : oh well... [2015-11-04 23:08:40] Yumi : its not nice if you get margin calls both ways [2015-11-04 23:08:59] zanza : im shilling for BitMEX right now, people complaining about Coinbase/Kraken/Finex problems the past few days and freezing up, told them BitMEX is working fine [2015-11-04 23:09:04] jung1 : one day I will have chinese wife [2015-11-04 23:09:16] zanza : waifu* @jung1 [2015-11-04 23:09:27] dynamike23 : Yumi: tight stops is all i can recommend there [2015-11-04 23:09:30] jung1 : and I will drink sake and trade on bitmex [2015-11-04 23:09:33] jung1 : thats the plan [2015-11-04 23:09:55] dynamike23 : bitmex has been a champ, a couple snags but otherwise solid [2015-11-04 23:10:00] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Just looking for a sign that China doesn't *want* to keep dumping [2015-11-04 23:10:45] jung1 : https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions looks lika nother spam attack [2015-11-04 23:10:58] BitMEX_Sam : It's gone down, thankfully [2015-11-04 23:10:58] jung1 : 1100 more transaction in 30min [2015-11-04 23:11:18] Scottv53 : jung1: what your analysis of the price action before 24h expiry? [2015-11-04 23:11:30] BitMEX_Sam : blocks are just way too small [2015-11-04 23:12:02] jung1 : Scottv53: hard to say. if we will keep above 2700 in night we will go up [2015-11-04 23:12:04] jung1 : if not [2015-11-04 23:12:06] habibi : too much politics in core development, bitcoin xt is good solution and probally will be forced by need [2015-11-04 23:12:20] jung1 : we can go even to 2500 [2015-11-04 23:12:42] zanza : premiums are coming back to earth [2015-11-04 23:12:43] jung1 : now im short [2015-11-04 23:13:25] Yumi : our next goal is co clear up Z15 liquidation [2015-11-04 23:13:30] dynamike23 : same ridiculous bull run happened for the last marshals auction - my assumption is the same here too [2015-11-04 23:13:56] zanza : does bitMEX have any charts for total volume, open interest contracts, and other relevant type things? [2015-11-04 23:14:27] BitMEX_Sam : zanza: At this time, no [2015-11-04 23:14:32] zanza : ok [2015-11-04 23:15:00] jung1 : dynamike23: could be [2015-11-04 23:16:49] nostdal.org : all market maker bots got rekt now? [2015-11-04 23:17:39] wurstgelee : going up nicely now [2015-11-04 23:17:42] wurstgelee : lets see how long.... [2015-11-04 23:18:18] dynamike23 : have fun gents, see ya later [2015-11-04 23:19:09] wurstgelee : massive resistance @ 400/finex this wont work [2015-11-04 23:20:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : wurstgelee: where? [2015-11-04 23:20:38] wurstgelee : lol yap [2015-11-04 23:20:40] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: DPE is working nicely, almost zero socialized loss even with such crazy volatility. Good job! [2015-11-04 23:20:44] wurstgelee : thats what i thought [2015-11-04 23:20:44] wurstgelee : rofl [2015-11-04 23:20:49] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Thanks! [2015-11-04 23:23:11] wurstgelee : wtf is just happening oO [2015-11-04 23:23:16] jung1 : damn someone on finex have alot of fun [2015-11-04 23:23:27] jung1 : happy life of whale [2015-11-04 23:26:39] joequant : pretty simple what happened. someone dumped coin on finex, and now china is waking up. [2015-11-04 23:35:35] stf28 : weak pullback after double bottom [2015-11-04 23:43:00] wurstgelee : yes [2015-11-04 23:43:04] wurstgelee : volume is ok tho [2015-11-04 23:43:11] wurstgelee : dunno what will happen next tbh [2015-11-04 23:44:30] wurstgelee : damn....its quiet in here suddenly oO [2015-11-04 23:45:35] BitMEX_Sam : Hey, I got you all a present [2015-11-04 23:45:39] BitMEX_Sam : Especially you, @lo [2015-11-04 23:45:41] BitMEX_Sam : @loke [2015-11-04 23:45:49] BitMEX_Sam : Refresh and your orders are now on the chart. [2015-11-04 23:45:57] wurstgelee : some lube i hope? [2015-11-04 23:46:08] BitMEX_Sam : Nope, all out of that, Amazon sells 55 gallon barrels though [2015-11-04 23:46:11] wurstgelee : oh, good as well [2015-11-04 23:46:28] wurstgelee : oh [2015-11-04 23:46:43] wurstgelee : that [2015-11-04 23:46:53] gaoMex : One thing good about this dip is that -ve DPE has been cleared. :) [2015-11-04 23:46:54] wurstgelee : t [2015-11-04 23:47:01] wurstgelee : chats cutting [2015-11-04 23:47:09] wurstgelee : test test [2015-11-04 23:47:12] wurstgelee : k, refresh [2015-11-04 23:47:23] Scottv53 : BitMEX_Sam: what the requirement to be a market maker on Bitmex? [2015-11-04 23:47:25] kogroken : BitMEX_Sam: Nice! [2015-11-04 23:47:37] wurstgelee : yes, really [2015-11-04 23:47:42] kogroken : Gets a bit crowded though, with the labels [2015-11-04 23:47:43] stf28 : nice :) [2015-11-04 23:47:55] BitMEX_Sam : Scottv53: Email us at info@bitmex.com if you're interested, depending on your commitment to spread and size we can accommodate you [2015-11-04 23:47:57] wurstgelee : damn, chat is cutting my lines [2015-11-04 23:48:04] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: what does Edit Order do [2015-11-04 23:48:10] wurstgelee : have to refresh then its ok ag [2015-11-04 23:48:12] kogroken : Does the X remove the order, or hide it? [2015-11-04 23:48:13] BitMEX_Sam : j8: Nothing, appears to be a broken feature [2015-11-04 23:48:17] BitMEX_Sam : kogroken: X cancels it [2015-11-04 23:48:23] kogroken : ok [2015-11-04 23:48:28] wurstgelee : test test te [2015-11-04 23:48:39] wurstgelee : whyischatcuttingmylines [2015-11-04 23:48:43] BitMEX_Sam : cutting your lines? [2015-11-04 23:49:05] wurstgelee : yesdoesntshowwordsafterblank [2015-11-04 23:49:12] BitMEX_Sam : could be your browser slowing down, try killing the tab entirely and refreshing [2015-11-04 23:49:12] wurstgelee : orcutscharacters [2015-11-04 23:49:16] BitMEX_Sam : ? [2015-11-04 23:49:21] wurstgelee : k [2015-11-04 23:49:38] wurstgelee : test test [2015-11-04 23:49:46] gielbier : test failed wurstgelee [2015-11-04 23:49:50] kogroken : BitMEX_Sam: Is there an option to toggle the order lines on or off on the chart? [2015-11-04 23:49:50] gielbier : i missed everything [2015-11-04 23:49:50] wurstgelee : yes.. [2015-11-04 23:49:55] gielbier : ffs [2015-11-04 23:49:57] BitMEX_Sam : kogroken: At this time no option [2015-11-04 23:50:01] BitMEX_Sam : Could create one [2015-11-04 23:50:03] wurstgelee : restartingbrowse [2015-11-04 23:50:20] kogroken : I'm sure it would be appreciated by people that place a lot of staggered orders [2015-11-04 23:50:37] BitMEX_Sam : Sure. Understood that it gets a little crowded in there [2015-11-04 23:50:49] BitMEX_Sam : But depending on how you scroll your chart, you can make it work pretty well [2015-11-04 23:51:04] kogroken : It could be nice to just see the lines, without the labels, maybe [2015-11-04 23:52:06] kogroken : (as an option - the labels are great at explainging what the lines mean) [2015-11-04 23:52:26] BitMEX_Sam : Right - well, I have a ticket in the system to do a full-fledged preferences page [2015-11-04 23:52:31] BitMEX_Sam : Will be like the options dropdown but much larger [2015-11-04 23:52:37] BitMEX_Sam : Or at least we'll expand that out [2015-11-04 23:52:47] kogroken : Ok, appreciate the visualization :) [2015-11-04 23:54:53] podizzler3k : is it me or did 24hr go from 424 to 416 instantly [2015-11-04 23:55:01] podizzler3k : either way i picked up some cheapies [2015-11-04 23:55:38] kogroken : BitMEX_Sam: Btw, it seems the currently ongoing candle is not shown in the chart - only completed ones. So the current highs and lows are not visible if zooming out to longer term candles like daily. [2015-11-04 23:55:58] BitMEX_Sam : kogroken: Yes, that's true - we should fix that [2015-11-04 23:56:14] kogroken : I was a bit confused by that a few times... [2015-11-04 23:56:25] BitMEX_Sam : I have some overhauls I want to do with that chart - I'll keep you all posted [2015-11-04 23:56:33] kogroken : Cool, thanks! [2015-11-04 23:59:25] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Sam: thanks for the email. [2015-11-05 00:01:15] AudibleScience : Also thanks for doing an awesome job. I'll be back soon. [2015-11-05 00:03:27] gielbier : BitMEX_Sam: what are you using now? plot.ly? [2015-11-05 00:03:32] BitMEX_Sam : TradingView [2015-11-05 00:03:51] jung1 : AudibleScience: hey. How is your hypron theme site? [2015-11-05 00:21:10] Yumi : this might be stupid question but in Trade History how do I know if order was buy or sell? [2015-11-05 00:24:57] BitMEX_Sam : Yumi: There's a display issue there, going to fix in a sec [2015-11-05 00:25:48] Yumi : oh okay, I barely sleep lately so I thought I might be missing something really simple [2015-11-05 00:27:13] joequant : fyi, bitfinex is reporting delays in crediting deposits. This might be why its going down. people like me can't deposit coin to arb the differences. [2015-11-05 00:28:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : joequant: That's good to know. Thanks! [2015-11-05 00:28:29] wurstgelee : yep, valuable info [2015-11-05 00:28:54] joequant : it looks like it just got fixed. [2015-11-05 00:34:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Can't decide if things are going to go up fast and make a nice W shape or plummet. [2015-11-05 00:36:43] joequant : part of me just wishes things would stablize so that I can get some sleep. [2015-11-05 00:39:35] lockhedge : actually the price is very stable at around $400 (<code>XBX</code> 399.37 <code>BIX</code> 400.49, exactly as 24h ago - did i miss something? [2015-11-05 00:40:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Nothing feels better than slowly and steadily making back your lossess [2015-11-05 00:41:00] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *losses [2015-11-05 00:44:13] Crypto Wealth : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: making profit feels better :-) [2015-11-05 00:44:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Crypto Wealth: Definitely. Had a good day? This volatility destroyed me twice [2015-11-05 00:45:51] Crypto Wealth : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Had a great day, yesterday I finished at loss cause of "fat finger" mistake. Today I made 4x what I lost. Traded on a couple exchanges simultaniously. [2015-11-05 00:46:05] kilrari : Hey admins, can you fix the keyboard on iOS devices popping up when pressing buy/sell? I've already typed in the price and quantity values but when I want to submit the order, the keyboard pops up along with the confirmation box [2015-11-05 00:46:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : That's awesome. Congrats [2015-11-05 00:46:20] Crypto Wealth : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Thanks [2015-11-05 00:46:46] Crypto Wealth : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: My second best day of the year, my first was the Bitfinex glitch. [2015-11-05 00:46:55] kilrari : BitMEX_Sam: please see above. Thanks for your hard work [2015-11-05 00:46:57] BitMEX_Sam : kilrari: Interesting [2015-11-05 00:47:00] BitMEX_Sam : I'll take a look [2015-11-05 00:47:08] kilrari : Thanks! [2015-11-05 00:47:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Crypto Wealth: I don't remember that day. What was the glitch? [2015-11-05 00:47:35] Crypto Wealth : The flash crash down to $166 a few monts ago [2015-11-05 00:48:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Oh yeah. I was so immune to Bitcoin craziness after holding through the bear market I hardly even took notice of it [2015-11-05 00:48:31] Crypto Wealth : I was familiar with the glitch so I knew how to close out. I shorted at $250, bought in at $180 and closed again at $250 [2015-11-05 00:49:06] Crypto Wealth : Doubled my account in 10 minutes lol [2015-11-05 00:49:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : That's insane [2015-11-05 00:49:42] Crypto Wealth : Ya a lot og people were pissed at Bitfinex [2015-11-05 00:50:02] Crypto Wealth : fortunately I encountered it during the litecoin volatility so knew how to adapt [2015-11-05 00:50:16] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Understandably, but that's cool that you figured out how to play it [2015-11-05 00:50:45] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Here's the W [2015-11-05 00:50:48] Crypto Wealth : ya you hiit close and instead of closing it wouuld open up another trade in the other direction [2015-11-05 00:51:08] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Oh yeah I think I remember that [2015-11-05 00:51:13] Crypto Wealth : people kept hitting close and opening tons of bad trades in a panic [2015-11-05 00:52:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Did BFX end up compensating anyone? [2015-11-05 00:53:37] j8 : they partly compensated some people [2015-11-05 00:54:18] j8 : but i think the double close issue wasn't a good excuse [2015-11-05 00:54:40] Crypto Wealth : Hey if bitcoin drops some more I have reason to believe Doge will do one of its x2-3 bull run [2015-11-05 00:55:06] Yumi : its great bitmex is so responsive you see everything happen instantly [2015-11-05 00:55:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Yumi: It really is an awesome platform. A noticeable notch above the others [2015-11-05 00:56:17] Crypto Wealth : Volume is close to a million, China has a 4 satoshi lead in price and this is the area in the past where it rallies to double or triple in satoshi value for an increase in bitcoin [2015-11-05 00:57:59] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Crypto Wealth: I tend to stay away from alts but it sounds like a good play [2015-11-05 00:58:38] Crypto Wealth : I'll only trade them to increase my bitcoin during those short pumps on volume [2015-11-05 00:59:13] Crypto Wealth : although I do have litecoins on cold storage cause the % gains are higher during the rallies [2015-11-05 01:00:04] Crypto Wealth : otherwise they're all mostly falling knives [2015-11-05 01:00:20] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Crypto Wealth: Yeah litecoins make the most sense to me out of all given how they've behaved in the past [2015-11-05 01:00:44] Crypto Wealth : ya gotta love a 400% bull run! [2015-11-05 01:00:46] joequant : I've been wanting to do alt-coins, but I've been busy trading bitcoin and alt-fiat. [2015-11-05 01:01:21] Crypto Wealth : mastering one market for consistent gains is smart [2015-11-05 01:01:28] joequant : i.e. weird fiat currencies, there are about 200 to play with [2015-11-05 01:01:38] Crypto Wealth : forex? [2015-11-05 01:02:01] Crypto Wealth : or things like BitUSD? [2015-11-05 01:06:24] j8 : emerging markets? [2015-11-05 01:11:51] BitMEX_Sam : kilrari: That is fixed, thanks for the report [2015-11-05 01:14:46] joequant : right now trading bitcoin against vietnamese dong [2015-11-05 01:14:58] joequant : and trying to do stuff with african currencies. [2015-11-05 01:15:57] joequant : seeing if bitcoin can be used for vietnamese currency exchange. [2015-11-05 01:16:11] j8 : how many vietnamese dongs is a bitcoin worth? [2015-11-05 01:16:21] joequant : about 10 million [2015-11-05 01:16:31] j8 : lol [2015-11-05 01:16:43] joequant : vietnam and china have vastly different currency policies. [2015-11-05 01:16:44] j8 : it's like a surrealist joke [2015-11-05 01:17:00] joequant : think of it as alt-fiat [2015-11-05 01:17:20] j8 : the doge of national currencies? [2015-11-05 01:17:21] joequant : i.e. bitcoin is usd, vietnamese dong is something like dogecoin [2015-11-05 01:17:25] joequant : yes [2015-11-05 01:17:30] j8 : amen brother [2015-11-05 01:17:58] joequant : funny thing is that vietnam and china have different currency policies and bitcoin might be more useful to vietnamese [2015-11-05 01:18:16] joequant : basically china lets you hold USD, vietnam doesn't. [2015-11-05 01:18:27] joequant : which means that every factory in china is in the forex business [2015-11-05 01:18:39] joequant : vietnamese banks automatically convert everything into local currency. [2015-11-05 01:19:12] j8 : i see so bitcoin gets around all that [2015-11-05 01:19:13] joequant : also bitcoin is useful in kenya and useless in nigeria [2015-11-05 01:19:28] Murch : What's the biggest chinese alt exchange? [2015-11-05 01:19:45] joequant : don't know [2015-11-05 01:19:56] j8 : used to be btc38 or something like that [2015-11-05 01:20:10] joequant : nigeria has oil money and so they can do things in dollars. Kenya doesn't have oil so they can't. [2015-11-05 01:22:46] Murch : j8: aight thanks [2015-11-05 01:24:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Hey Murch [2015-11-05 01:24:16] hashman : market maker is gone? [2015-11-05 01:25:30] BitMEX_Sam : seems he's still there in 24 [2015-11-05 01:25:35] BitMEX_Sam : Just got the massive size it used [2015-11-05 01:25:39] BitMEX_Sam : used to be [2015-11-05 01:26:16] hashman : pretty untradeable now [2015-11-05 01:26:36] hashman : got liquidated during the dump because I couldn't close the position [2015-11-05 01:26:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : hashman: Me too. It is what it is [2015-11-05 01:27:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I made a bad call to begin with and put myself in that situation [2015-11-05 01:27:11] hashman : yeah, i'm still up overall but it was a heavy loss. [2015-11-05 01:27:45] hashman : watching the liquidity disappear at the worst time was terrible [2015-11-05 01:28:00] chromaticcr : BitMEX_Sam: Iwonder if in anywhere there i could see the fair basis% of Bitmex [2015-11-05 01:28:25] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : hashman: Always seems to be the case. Just have to be super careful with position sizing and entry [2015-11-05 01:28:35] chromaticcr : nice to see DPE is kept 0 after a night ride [2015-11-05 01:29:03] hashman : Ich - lesson learned for sure [2015-11-05 01:29:05] danzel14 : do i need deposite to start trading ? [2015-11-05 01:29:14] danzel14 : becsue its not show me any place for trading [2015-11-05 01:29:19] Yumi : chromaticcr: in Advane View, Instruments table, click arrow on left to expand view and you have all info there [2015-11-05 01:29:32] chromaticcr : th [2015-11-05 01:29:45] BitMEX_Sam : See also [2015-11-05 01:29:49] BitMEX_Sam : https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBT24H [2015-11-05 01:31:28] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : danzel14: Yes you do [2015-11-05 01:31:34] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Hey dude, guess what? I screwed myself. [2015-11-05 01:31:48] danzel14 : so i need deposite first ? and what minim deposite ? [2015-11-05 01:32:24] Murch : only got .015 left in withheld profit that clears either on Friday or next month or something [2015-11-05 01:32:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Oh no. Sorry to hear that [2015-11-05 01:32:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I messed up two and now I'm down 2 coins. Slowly making my way back but it will take a while [2015-11-05 01:32:50] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: It's all good, all due to my own stupidity after all [2015-11-05 01:33:03] Murch : shiiit :( [2015-11-05 01:33:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Same haha. It's a learning opportunity [2015-11-05 01:33:23] Murch : Yep always gotta really take the lessons to heart [2015-11-05 01:33:25] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'm up .2373 over the past two hours so I think this is doable [2015-11-05 01:34:41] joequant : It must be institutional investors in China that's pumping. [2015-11-05 01:34:54] joequant : It spiked the moment the brokerages opened. [2015-11-05 01:35:08] chromaticcr : Trading from their lefthand to the right hand [2015-11-05 01:35:13] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: That's definitely a start, good luck dude [2015-11-05 01:35:31] mikeh : did whale club teamspeak go down? [2015-11-05 01:35:39] chromaticcr : To those trader, bitcoin's volume is paper-thin lol [2015-11-05 01:35:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Thanks man. I'm being a lot more risk adverse with my position sizes and entry prices now for sure [2015-11-05 01:35:47] Murch : I guess I'm gonna be trading on Finex for the time being though. [2015-11-05 01:35:55] messiaen8844 : that was a god ride today [2015-11-05 01:35:59] messiaen8844 : good [2015-11-05 01:35:59] BitMEX_Sam : mikeh: Yeah they're rebooting it [2015-11-05 01:36:02] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Yep definitely needed a slap from reality. [2015-11-05 01:36:03] BitMEX_Sam : Some traders on our TS at ts.bitmex.com [2015-11-05 01:36:08] messiaen8844 : too bad I had to exit when the main action ocurred [2015-11-05 01:36:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: It was loud and clear [2015-11-05 01:36:28] Murch : BitMEX_Sam: Do you guys have plans to try to include service to US in the future? [2015-11-05 01:36:53] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Look at Finex go and China follow [2015-11-05 01:36:55] joequant : I'm guessing there is some state-owned company that is having a side business investing in bitcoin. [2015-11-05 01:37:03] BitMEX_Sam : If anything changes in how we restrict service we'll send an email around [2015-11-05 01:37:04] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Wow yeah this is good stuff [2015-11-05 01:37:17] joequant : Chinese SOE's are very precise in timing. They have nap time. [2015-11-05 01:37:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Just wish I had used a bit more of my leverage now haha [2015-11-05 01:37:26] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Playing it safe though [2015-11-05 01:37:32] Murch : BitMEX_Sam: alright thanks, but is that a goal you are actively pursuing or just might happen if it happens kinda thing? [2015-11-05 01:37:51] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Yeah I feel you on that. Not used to this tiny leverage on finex [2015-11-05 01:37:52] BitMEX_Sam : Murch: Can't really discuss it, sorry [2015-11-05 01:37:55] Murch : But it's for the best [2015-11-05 01:38:04] Murch : BitMEX_Sam: Alright that's cool, no worries then. [2015-11-05 01:38:23] wurstgelee : well...wtf. [2015-11-05 01:38:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : wurstgelee: Were you short? :p [2015-11-05 01:38:40] wurstgelee : no [2015-11-05 01:38:43] wurstgelee : small lo [2015-11-05 01:38:47] wurstgelee : wish it was bigge [2015-11-05 01:38:51] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Same here [2015-11-05 01:38:53] wurstgelee : r =) [2015-11-05 01:38:54] messiaen8844 : got $60 dollars on friday weekly today ;), too bad not enoughliquidity [2015-11-05 01:39:02] messiaen8844 : so just 1.5k contracts [2015-11-05 01:39:33] wurstgelee : oh well...profit is profit. have to cope with losses [2015-11-05 01:40:22] AudibleScience : jung1: oh hey man... you still here? [2015-11-05 01:41:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Wish I had a larger position for that but I made .043 so that's something [2015-11-05 01:41:56] jung1 : yep [2015-11-05 01:42:06] wurstgelee : had 1500, was, made ..2 i think. happy with that =) [2015-11-05 01:42:36] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : wurstgelee: Nice. That's the size position I should have had but I wasn't sure at first [2015-11-05 01:42:50] messiaen8844 : 440 good point to short a bit [2015-11-05 01:42:53] AudibleScience : jung1: I did hack a few local versions of it... you can have the code if you want? [2015-11-05 01:43:02] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Looks like Finex wants to keep going perhaps and China will likely follow so may get back in [2015-11-05 01:43:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Small position again [2015-11-05 01:43:14] jung1 : shure if its no problem for you [2015-11-05 01:43:34] wurstgelee : ggl, that went too fast i think, i will sit and wait [2015-11-05 01:43:59] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Fat finger. Whoops [2015-11-05 01:44:47] AudibleScience : jung1: not at all man! it's really not that much to add... [2015-11-05 01:45:05] messiaen8844 : don't think we'll see $ 500 that soon [2015-11-05 01:45:20] wurstgelee : i dont =) but then again..crazy dayas [2015-11-05 01:45:20] messiaen8844 : people not used to bitcoin will be scared after today [2015-11-05 01:45:45] wurstgelee : nothing happened. we went up and down to the same point 24 later [2015-11-05 01:45:48] wurstgelee : all fine ;) [2015-11-05 01:48:03] AudibleScience : jung1: this should tidy it up for you a bit man... don't know if it will paste into here though lol but I'll have a go! #leftbar { width: 110px; } a.link_premium { display: none; } li.logo { display: none; } li.ticker { display: none; } a.link_register { display: none; } a.link_login { display: none; } [2015-11-05 01:48:20] BitMEX_Sam : Hah, while that worked, please use gist or pastebin [2015-11-05 01:48:27] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : lol [2015-11-05 01:48:44] AudibleScience : lol sorry! [2015-11-05 01:53:16] jung1 : hehe yeah would be bette [2015-11-05 01:54:50] AudibleScience : jung1: here you go man http://pastebin.com/N0JDB3h0 [2015-11-05 01:55:19] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Sam: Yeah that is much better sorry Sam! [2015-11-05 02:00:10] 598X0T45 : would it be possible to have it so a user could set which market they start out on when they log in? the 24h thing has messed with me a few times cause I do weeklies usually [2015-11-05 02:00:47] SnackyCoins : Be careful when placing orders :) [2015-11-05 02:01:22] 598X0T45 : yeah just would be a nice small change [2015-11-05 02:01:42] SnackyCoins : true, could store last-contract in user data [2015-11-05 02:02:02] SnackyCoins : I usually notice what contract i'm on because of the price lol [2015-11-05 02:02:32] chromaticcr : BitMEX_Sam: recent volitility makes me wonder how the fair basis is being determined. like what factors? Seems to me been quite a fair indicative thing even without much trades and follow the volitility of the spot/index well [2015-11-05 02:03:00] BitMEX_Sam : chromaticcr: We've documented the algo now: https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation#fair-price-marking [2015-11-05 02:03:16] chromaticcr : thanks [2015-11-05 02:03:25] SnackyCoins : just realized all the basis is gone [2015-11-05 02:08:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Yep most of it disappeared when OKCoin dumped down to 2760 [2015-11-05 02:09:01] SnackyCoins : we still have $20 premium though, nice 8) [2015-11-05 02:10:55] messiaen8844 : not a bad daily candle [2015-11-05 02:11:49] stf28 : BitMEX_Sam: thanks so much ! [2015-11-05 02:12:20] wurstgelee : messiaen8844: yep, daily chart still looks sexy [2015-11-05 02:12:35] Crypto Wealth : BitMEX_Sam: +1 for the fair price marking. :-) [2015-11-05 02:13:13] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah it's been a big improvement. The weighted mid price changes are only on 24H so far but working well [2015-11-05 02:13:30] messiaen8844 : we may go symetrical all the way back up [2015-11-05 02:13:37] Crypto Wealth : BitMEX_Sam: you guys are running a top notch exchange! Thanks! [2015-11-05 02:13:46] billyboy402 : sorry where the index price listing , again [2015-11-05 02:13:53] chromaticcr : what would happen if the orderbook is thinner than the impact volume? [2015-11-05 02:14:12] messiaen8844 : bicoin circuit break lol [2015-11-05 02:14:50] billyboy402 : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT i found it [2015-11-05 02:16:17] lockhedge : some stats of our experimental $10 market maker bot: started with 0.0433 BTC ($10), did 1799 trades worth 74.22 BTC (>$30.000) in 36 days, payed 0.011 BTC fees (25% of capital) to BitMEX, Balance today: 0.1041 BTC ($45.38) [2015-11-05 02:17:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : lockhedge: Very nice [2015-11-05 02:18:29] kilrari : Cool! Wonder how it handles bigger capital with such large spreads [2015-11-05 02:20:58] mikeh : 740% atm, I'll prob still be in the neg by the end of the day :] [2015-11-05 02:22:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : mikeh: That's impressive. You could withdraw some of your profit to guarantee a positive day [2015-11-05 02:23:15] billyboy402 : is sam in his TS [2015-11-05 02:24:02] mikeh : letting it ride with a stop limit that i hope will kick in for a change to guarantee some return [2015-11-05 02:24:07] messiaen8844 : i feel disturbance in the force [2015-11-05 02:24:42] nickhnt : Oh boys what a day [2015-11-05 02:24:57] joequant : what a lovely day :-)