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[2015-11-04 17:12:19] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Well I shorted :p
[2015-11-04 17:12:32] Murch : Oh shit what price?
[2015-11-04 17:12:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 538.37
[2015-11-04 17:12:40] cekseh : gotta retest 160 before we moon!
[2015-11-04 17:12:44] cekseh : -tradingviewnewbs
[2015-11-04 17:12:50] Murch : Good luck dude
[2015-11-04 17:12:57] Murch : Get it quickly if you can.
[2015-11-04 17:13:52] Murch : closed out?
[2015-11-04 17:13:53] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Got it. Bad trade though. Barely made anything
[2015-11-04 17:14:25] Murch : Better not to lose. That's what low risk is about. Reflexes are key to this man.
[2015-11-04 17:14:48] Murch : So you did well there imo.
[2015-11-04 17:15:29] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : For sure. If you don't have the reflexes to close a position before the good orders disappear, scalping is going to be tough
[2015-11-04 17:15:49] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : But see, now it's dropping more. This is the kind of thing where I should have let it run
[2015-11-04 17:15:54] habibi : abyway panic can start any sec
[2015-11-04 17:16:28] Murch : Just hoobi hoobin
[2015-11-04 17:16:43] Swedishnut : why would anyone panic? error 404 already found passed and slapped :)
[2015-11-04 17:17:26] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Finex not reacting at all
[2015-11-04 17:18:16] Murch : This is my philosophy for bull market: look at how much it has gone up every 4 hours on average for the last few weeks. That means on average it is more profitable by far to be long. Just a numbers game.
[2015-11-04 17:18:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : And partly that was because my chart was frozen :p
[2015-11-04 17:18:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: That's a good perspective on it
[2015-11-04 17:18:58] habibi : Swedishnut: panic on chinese
[2015-11-04 17:19:17] habibi : not on west, remember what they did with chinese stocks lately ;p
[2015-11-04 17:19:19] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Thanks man, that's one of my sanity checks when I start panicking.
[2015-11-04 17:20:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Back to catching knives. My favorite!
[2015-11-04 17:20:29] Murch : I'm fairly under but I'm gonna load a little back up again.
[2015-11-04 17:20:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : The fact that this is just China freaking out and not Finex too inspires confidence in a nice bounce
[2015-11-04 17:21:27] Murch : Well everyone follows China so if it keeps going down I may be screwed.
[2015-11-04 17:21:51] Murch : I'm just fairly confident in this support.
[2015-11-04 17:21:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : True. I think it's more likely they're just hunting for stops though
[2015-11-04 17:23:10] Murch : If you look at the 15 minute candles you can see lots of wicks with long tails at the bottom. That indicates buying interest each time there's a drop.
[2015-11-04 17:24:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I noticed that. Also higher lows
[2015-11-04 17:24:30] Murch : If it goes under 520 on bitmex I start selling though
[2015-11-04 17:24:35] Murch : Can't take that much loss
[2015-11-04 17:25:06] habibi : what is finex price?
[2015-11-04 17:25:11] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: lower highs as well though. It's a pennant.
[2015-11-04 17:25:11] habibi : coz i think btwisdom froze
[2015-11-04 17:25:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Yep
[2015-11-04 17:25:33] Murch : habibi: 481 It's working for me atm
[2015-11-04 17:25:56] jung1 : shorts now are really dangerous
[2015-11-04 17:26:14] jung1 : longs as well
[2015-11-04 17:26:20] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: working for me too
[2015-11-04 17:26:23] jung1 : bitcoin as it finest
[2015-11-04 17:27:11] habibi : ok, so i am suprised with no reaction @finex ;p
[2015-11-04 17:27:50] Murch : Bitmex why you lose premium?
[2015-11-04 17:28:07] habibi : Murch: simple manipulating i think
[2015-11-04 17:28:23] Yumi : its fomo premium, we stopped going up so fomo calms down
[2015-11-04 17:28:47] Murch : Let's get some fomo up in here boys.
[2015-11-04 17:29:14] aethlios : a good idea to add daily litecoin contract....
[2015-11-04 17:29:34] Yumi : if you buy at $45 premium price must go up by 45 before settlement just to break even
[2015-11-04 17:29:48] Murch : China might just be bitcoin's Jesus..
[2015-11-04 17:30:20] habibi : or bitcoin Hitler :(
[2015-11-04 17:30:21] messiaen8844 : or china is fiat hell ;)
[2015-11-04 17:30:27] Swedishnut : it is China's way of making friends with everyone in Bitcoin
[2015-11-04 17:30:36] Murch : Yumi: That's only if you hold it to settlement.
[2015-11-04 17:30:42] jung1 : and now they can have more than 1 child
[2015-11-04 17:30:56] messiaen8844 : so bitcoin and baby boom
[2015-11-04 17:31:03] Yumi : yes so as long price keep going up there will be huge premium
[2015-11-04 17:31:31] jung1 : messiaen8844: now everything is clear
[2015-11-04 17:31:40] jung1 : bitcoin is related with sex in china
[2015-11-04 17:31:56] Murch : Position is super shitty now, considering taking some loss to deleverage it.
[2015-11-04 17:32:02] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Same here :(
[2015-11-04 17:33:24] messiaen8844 : bye bye longs
[2015-11-04 17:33:25] Murch : uhh derp
[2015-11-04 17:33:28] messiaen8844 : see you soon
[2015-11-04 17:33:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Ouch. I got liquidated
[2015-11-04 17:34:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Still have about half, but that hurt
[2015-11-04 17:34:10] Murch : holy shit dude I'm sorry :(
[2015-11-04 17:34:21] Murch : You said you got your initial out though right?
[2015-11-04 17:34:39] messiaen8844 : but of course china maybe doesn't give a fuck lol
[2015-11-04 17:34:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Yeah this is just profit now
[2015-11-04 17:35:10] Murch : Are you gonna keep trading or sit out for now?
[2015-11-04 17:35:19] Murch : You might as well try to catch a low 500 order
[2015-11-04 17:35:22] Murch : Since it's so much cheaper
[2015-11-04 17:35:28] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I got in a cheaper long
[2015-11-04 17:35:37] Murch : niiice
[2015-11-04 17:35:38] jung1 : I dont want to catch falling knife
[2015-11-04 17:35:51] messiaen8844 : let it fall, catch when things settle in
[2015-11-04 17:36:24] gustavo7 : now way under fair price
[2015-11-04 17:36:32] messiaen8844 : would love the market to really correct for 1 day so we can have better longs
[2015-11-04 17:36:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : gustavo7: yep
[2015-11-04 17:37:00] messiaen8844 : if it falls enough, absurd new money will enter
[2015-11-04 17:37:09] messiaen8844 : straight up = not sustainable
[2015-11-04 17:37:32] mikeh : hasn't even fallen further than previously on exchanges
[2015-11-04 17:37:34] j8 : would love to correct down enough to clear DPE on `XBTZ15` and `XBTH16` before friday
[2015-11-04 17:37:43] Yumi : I agree
[2015-11-04 17:37:54] cekseh : absurd new money enterting regardless =)
[2015-11-04 17:38:48] messiaen8844 : yep, but the potential is much higher, and wont happen if it goes all bubble up
[2015-11-04 17:39:33] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : China having none of our bull dreams right now
[2015-11-04 17:39:33] sleger : j8: where do you see current DPE?
[2015-11-04 17:39:48] j8 : it's the percent by the mark price
[2015-11-04 17:40:12] Murch : People getting margin called?
[2015-11-04 17:40:13] sleger : oh awesome thks
[2015-11-04 17:40:17] Murch : That 508 sell
[2015-11-04 17:41:52] j8 : using the API it's possible to see your indicative haircut
[2015-11-04 17:42:25] Murch : 475, can it hoooold?
[2015-11-04 17:42:41] joequant : no its that the 24h premium is ridiculous
[2015-11-04 17:43:07] stf28 : it seems to hold for now
[2015-11-04 17:43:17] j8 : it is ridiculous, the 7D has been trading lower and it has an extra day
[2015-11-04 17:44:56] zanza : ridiculous is the name of the game with Bitcoin
[2015-11-04 17:45:12] Murch : uh ohhh
[2015-11-04 17:45:28] nickhnt : yo guys
[2015-11-04 17:45:31] nickhnt : whats up?
[2015-11-04 17:45:43] stf28 : oups
[2015-11-04 17:45:45] Murch : not the price right now
[2015-11-04 17:45:47] messiaen8844 : whats down?
[2015-11-04 17:45:56] nickhnt : xD
[2015-11-04 17:46:09] messiaen8844 : chins buy button is broken
[2015-11-04 17:46:16] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: this is getting worrisome
[2015-11-04 17:46:29] Murch : Yeah I can't effing close out any size
[2015-11-04 17:46:46] messiaen8844 : after the pump, whales will turn their dump bots
[2015-11-04 17:46:48] Murch : I might have to start back out from like .1
[2015-11-04 17:47:01] Murch : .1 btc
[2015-11-04 17:47:08] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Ouch. Sorry buddy
[2015-11-04 17:47:14] gielbier : that sucks
[2015-11-04 17:47:17] nickhnt : sorry man
[2015-11-04 17:47:19] messiaen8844 : murch didn't you take partial profits?
[2015-11-04 17:47:27] Murch : No worries hopefully it doesn't fall that far
[2015-11-04 17:47:28] nickhnt : time to dump?
[2015-11-04 17:47:43] Murch : Can't close out at this moment but yes I have been making profit
[2015-11-04 17:47:46] messiaen8844 : you gotta take partial and then let the other part run
[2015-11-04 17:47:50] Murch : That's why a liquidation would leave me with a bit
[2015-11-04 17:47:50] Crypto Wealth : you need balls of steel to buy at support at these levels...
[2015-11-04 17:47:54] messiaen8844 : less lucrative but more consistent
[2015-11-04 17:48:25] Murch : 503 is the liquidation price for me
[2015-11-04 17:48:29] Murch : unless I can close some out
[2015-11-04 17:48:30] nickhnt : i just want to know if it will bounce the lower part of the channel
[2015-11-04 17:48:46] nickhnt : finex dump
[2015-11-04 17:48:53] Murch : nope gg
[2015-11-04 17:49:06] messiaen8844 : still mostly finex
[2015-11-04 17:49:14] nickhnt : see ya at 440~
[2015-11-04 17:49:22] nickhnt : messiaen8844: true
[2015-11-04 17:49:24] Murch : and coinbase
[2015-11-04 17:49:38] habibi : now will be rebounce
[2015-11-04 17:49:40] nickhnt : houbi breaking down
[2015-11-04 17:49:46] nickhnt : not sure
[2015-11-04 17:49:47] messiaen8844 : lol @ my 541 entry short ;), too bad only 2k
[2015-11-04 17:49:56] nickhnt : messiaen8844: nice
[2015-11-04 17:50:21] Murch : Aight went from .43 to .14
[2015-11-04 17:50:23] messiaen8844 : now goodbye to $ 50 premium
[2015-11-04 17:50:25] nickhnt : yeah definitely down
[2015-11-04 17:50:26] Murch : I'll jsut build back up I guess?
[2015-11-04 17:51:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch:
[2015-11-04 17:51:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Isolate margin is good for protecting your account. Just turned it on for my position
[2015-11-04 17:51:43] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Let's see how it works
[2015-11-04 17:51:45] nickhnt : maybe its a fakeout?
[2015-11-04 17:51:45] Murch : I'll start by buying here.
[2015-11-04 17:51:52] Murch : I tried isolate but I like cross better
[2015-11-04 17:52:02] sleger : buying time
[2015-11-04 17:52:03] nickhnt : i dont think the dump is over son
[2015-11-04 17:52:13] Murch : I'll scale into it again
[2015-11-04 17:52:17] Murch : Not all at once.
[2015-11-04 17:52:19] zanza : time to go all in boys?
[2015-11-04 17:52:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : That bounce on huobi
[2015-11-04 17:52:25] sleger : how low in size can this MM bot go ? lol
[2015-11-04 17:52:55] TschavaTschigger : if you have balls you have cross margin enabled 24/7
[2015-11-04 17:53:18] TschavaTschigger : one typo and everything is gone :D
[2015-11-04 17:53:37] zanza : 10k on the 24H
[2015-11-04 17:53:46] zanza : gone
[2015-11-04 17:53:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Ouch. I'm finished Murch
[2015-11-04 17:54:10] messiaen8844 : i am out, don't want bull rage on me
[2015-11-04 17:54:45] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Oh no, what happened?
[2015-11-04 17:55:02] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: liquidation. Couldn't do anything about it
[2015-11-04 17:55:06] dynamike23 : dumps like a truck
[2015-11-04 17:55:12] ayy lmao : what
[2015-11-04 17:55:13] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: fuuuuuck
[2015-11-04 17:55:13] messiaen8844 : whats this ? Order could not be submitted: Executing at X would cause immediate liquidation. Try disabling isolated margin.
[2015-11-04 17:55:19] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I mean I still have .034 coins, but that's not much to start with
[2015-11-04 17:55:43] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: Go to order options and turn on cross margin
[2015-11-04 17:55:43] Murch : I guess just try building it up? D:
[2015-11-04 17:55:48] Murch : I thought you used isolate though
[2015-11-04 17:55:56] ayy lmao : you know what isolate margin does right
[2015-11-04 17:56:06] ayy lmao : it makes your liquidation even colser
[2015-11-04 17:56:10] messiaen8844 : where is that ?
[2015-11-04 17:56:15] Murch : But you buy less on isolate
[2015-11-04 17:56:19] Murch : so It limits that
[2015-11-04 17:56:42] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: I'm sorry that happened dude that sucks
[2015-11-04 17:56:46] messiaen8844 : Ah, found.. i was doing the marging by hand once it got placed as isolated
[2015-11-04 17:57:02] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Thanks. No worries though. It was just profits at least
[2015-11-04 17:57:22] mikeh : you can also isolate then adjust margin by clicking the B under Margin column in position list
[2015-11-04 17:57:31] Murch : You can always try again with what you've got left. That can actually grow pretty fast in this volatility.
[2015-11-04 17:57:54] ilikepies69 : why doesnt chart update?
[2015-11-04 17:58:30] habibi : why fair price is so high still?
[2015-11-04 17:58:50] mikeh : seems to adjust slowly over time
[2015-11-04 17:59:00] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Isolate didn't do what I thought it did
[2015-11-04 17:59:06] messiaen8844 : its taken from the index which gets update every minute , no?
[2015-11-04 17:59:16] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Just going to try again. Not giving up by any means :)
[2015-11-04 17:59:21] dorothy490 : what is witheld profit?
[2015-11-04 17:59:27] messiaen8844 : isolate means you take only part of your capital as maring, kind of a forced stop loss
[2015-11-04 17:59:44] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Ah shit. That's even worse since you just weren't aware of it.
[2015-11-04 17:59:49] dynamike23 : interesting huobi./okcoin divergence
[2015-11-04 17:59:54] Murch : Yeah dude keep going though
[2015-11-04 18:00:03] Murch : Learn what you can and move forward
[2015-11-04 18:00:57] xelamat : Anyone buying the dip?
[2015-11-04 18:00:59] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I learned I need to stick with my trades. I had a good short near the top of where that drop started and I got out of it way too fast
[2015-11-04 18:01:38] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: sometimes you gotta stick with it and sometimes you gotta get out fast. That's the mindfuck part of it
[2015-11-04 18:01:43] jung1 : http://imgur.com/r/Bitcoin/2dhUu51
[2015-11-04 18:01:44] zanza : withheld profit, is profit you have but you can't use it until the position is finalized
[2015-11-04 18:01:54] stf28 : what is everyone calling the woodchipper?
[2015-11-04 18:02:12] ayy lmao : okcoi
[2015-11-04 18:02:13] nickhnt : say o k coin
[2015-11-04 18:02:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : It's a Chinese exchange that starts with OK @stf28
[2015-11-04 18:02:29] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : If you type it out it will be filtered to "The Woodchipper"
[2015-11-04 18:02:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : OKCoin
[2015-11-04 18:02:36] nickhnt : lol
[2015-11-04 18:02:37] stf28 : okcoin
[2015-11-04 18:02:39] habibi : woodchiper next stop at 2140
[2015-11-04 18:02:40] stf28 : loool
[2015-11-04 18:02:41] Murch : okcoin
[2015-11-04 18:02:41] nickhnt : okcasino
[2015-11-04 18:02:43] habibi : 3140* :p
[2015-11-04 18:02:52] stf28 : ok thanks guys :)
[2015-11-04 18:02:55] stf28 : funny
[2015-11-04 18:03:02] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : okcoin
[2015-11-04 18:03:02] nickhnt : and next 3k~3050
[2015-11-04 18:03:05] nickhnt : i guess
[2015-11-04 18:04:55] dynamike23 : go home okcasino, you're drunk
[2015-11-04 18:05:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : dynamike23: it's so bearish and idk why
[2015-11-04 18:05:35] stf28 : selling pressure > buying one
[2015-11-04 18:05:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Probably just hitting people's stop losses but still, seems a bit overboard
[2015-11-04 18:05:44] xelamat : Those dumps are so consistent and predictable. Buy dip, profit, buy dip, profit... starting to feel complacent. Wonder how long the pattern will last...
[2015-11-04 18:05:49] nickhnt : haningin by a thread
[2015-11-04 18:05:52] ayy lmao : okcoin lmao
[2015-11-04 18:05:55] dynamike23 : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: hard to believe the whales aren't coordinating on this
[2015-11-04 18:06:17] mikeh : maybe cos 2am china
[2015-11-04 18:06:22] stf28 : all these lines have been broken since this 504 top (bfx)
[2015-11-04 18:07:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : OKCoin drunk confirmed
[2015-11-04 18:07:39] nickhnt : oh boy
[2015-11-04 18:07:40] dynamike23 : what a spectacular showing
[2015-11-04 18:07:53] xelamat : just got the ultimate bear signal. gf cashing out half of the one btc she owns to go shopping.
[2015-11-04 18:07:55] Murch : This is volatility
[2015-11-04 18:08:02] TschavaTschigger : as much as I enjoy the skyride, I really want markets to calm down again.. 24h trading is a pain in the ass atm
[2015-11-04 18:08:03] messiaen8844 : chinese dumping now
[2015-11-04 18:08:08] habibi : lel okcoin forgot to stop
[2015-11-04 18:08:08] habibi : xD
[2015-11-04 18:08:13] Swedishnut : lol Yellen says stocks are performing well and to expect rate hike
[2015-11-04 18:08:31] nickhnt : TschavaTschigger: agree with you
[2015-11-04 18:08:50] habibi : lets buy
[2015-11-04 18:10:32] Murch : I'm loading up reaaaally slowly
[2015-11-04 18:10:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : OKCoin still going. Geez
[2015-11-04 18:10:43] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Good luck!
[2015-11-04 18:11:00] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Thanks, here's to not blowing myself up
[2015-11-04 18:11:00] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Hope this bounces really hard for you
[2015-11-04 18:11:13] dynamike23 : floors being broken
[2015-11-04 18:11:16] messiaen8844 : 4pm and no lunch yet for me
[2015-11-04 18:11:21] dynamike23 : THIS IS BITCOIN
[2015-11-04 18:11:46] jung1 : nice 15k btc dump on ok
[2015-11-04 18:11:59] messiaen8844 : damn, so glad I emptied my pockets at $ 500
[2015-11-04 18:12:20] messiaen8844 : now panic begins
[2015-11-04 18:12:35] jung1 : im short since 500
[2015-11-04 18:12:39] jung1 : 505% profit now
[2015-11-04 18:12:43] xelamat : bring out those levers: http://legacylaw.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/lever-legacy-300x193.png
[2015-11-04 18:12:43] messiaen8844 : too bad took profits early from my 541 short
[2015-11-04 18:12:47] dorothy490 : untradable
[2015-11-04 18:12:50] dorothy490 : system lags like hell
[2015-11-04 18:12:50] Murch : jung1: damn, that's an awesome call
[2015-11-04 18:12:53] kilrari : I'm glad I stuck to my strategy despite everyone including myself saying shorting was a ba idea
[2015-11-04 18:12:56] messiaen8844 : still shorting on weekly now
[2015-11-04 18:12:58] nickhnt : my short still opened
[2015-11-04 18:13:04] jung1 : same
[2015-11-04 18:13:04] nickhnt : from 534
[2015-11-04 18:13:12] habibi : finex
[2015-11-04 18:13:12] jung1 : 616%
[2015-11-04 18:13:13] habibi : lal
[2015-11-04 18:13:13] jung1 : wtf
[2015-11-04 18:13:19] nickhnt : 1000% lol
[2015-11-04 18:13:26] Murch : Meanwhile, I'm catching the falling knife
[2015-11-04 18:13:26] jung1 : haha
[2015-11-04 18:13:27] jung1 : nice
[2015-11-04 18:13:36] jung1 : wait
[2015-11-04 18:13:38] jung1 : ok 430
[2015-11-04 18:13:42] xelamat : 2k sell on finex jsut happened
[2015-11-04 18:13:47] macios15 : good premium on daily killed
[2015-11-04 18:14:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Great call @jung1
[2015-11-04 18:16:11] dynamike23 : dead cat bounce or continued drop?
[2015-11-04 18:16:17] Murch : Alright bouncy time
[2015-11-04 18:16:55] Satoshi : big shake out
[2015-11-04 18:17:08] Satoshi : some got heart attack lol
[2015-11-04 18:17:14] Satoshi : some made big money
[2015-11-04 18:17:16] Swedishnut : maracas are shaking the margins
[2015-11-04 18:17:29] dorothy490 : any admins here?
[2015-11-04 18:19:33] Murch : Time for 500 now?
[2015-11-04 18:19:47] jung1 : yep
[2015-11-04 18:20:05] Satoshi : now time for 650 ++
[2015-11-04 18:20:28] Satoshi : then mega dump again , then 1000
[2015-11-04 18:20:47] Satoshi : charts looks like dragon drawings lol
[2015-11-04 18:20:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : How's that bounce treating you Murch?
[2015-11-04 18:21:10] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: entry at 484.4
[2015-11-04 18:21:19] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Nice!
[2015-11-04 18:21:23] Murch : Sitting pretty at the moment :)
[2015-11-04 18:21:33] jung1 : 489
[2015-11-04 18:21:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I bet :) Going to hold on to it all/sell half?
[2015-11-04 18:21:50] Murch : I may sell half soon here
[2015-11-04 18:22:00] Murch : Or all depending on the premium I see
[2015-11-04 18:22:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Sweet trade though. You pretty much got the bottom exactly
[2015-11-04 18:22:43] dynamike23 : looks like they're shaking out all the stops on the way down and then buying them up
[2015-11-04 18:22:51] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: thanks man. I really could have done better but it worked out alright for me this time.
[2015-11-04 18:22:59] Murch : Apart from the earlier liquidation though
[2015-11-04 18:23:00] Murch : hahah
[2015-11-04 18:23:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Haha yeah. Those are no fun
[2015-11-04 18:23:19] Murch : Closed out half at 506
[2015-11-04 18:23:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Nice
[2015-11-04 18:23:42] Murch : And the rest of it too
[2015-11-04 18:23:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Check that out. 0.69% DPE on the daily.
[2015-11-04 18:24:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Seems to be dropping
[2015-11-04 18:24:11] Murch : 5% now holy crap
[2015-11-04 18:24:16] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Nvm haha. wow
[2015-11-04 18:24:17] Yumi : margincalling both ways
[2015-11-04 18:24:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Yumi: Lots of it apparently
[2015-11-04 18:24:31] Murch : Gonna buy again here if I can
[2015-11-04 18:24:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Sounds like a good plan
[2015-11-04 18:25:46] Murch : Couldn't get any :(
[2015-11-04 18:25:51] Murch : Gotta go for a more expensive buy
[2015-11-04 18:27:30] zanza : 14k sell on finex
[2015-11-04 18:27:36] zanza : they are really trying to bring this down
[2015-11-04 18:27:53] Murch : Nvm I got filled LOL
[2015-11-04 18:28:02] Murch : Incredible
[2015-11-04 18:28:04] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Oh ok nice
[2015-11-04 18:29:34] kasman5 : rekt
[2015-11-04 18:30:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Man, this channel I drew the other day sure would have been helpful in evaluating market conditions (like going long at the top being a bad idea)
[2015-11-04 18:30:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : http://i.cubeupload.com/N3PKfa.png
[2015-11-04 18:30:05] habibi : short or long guys?
[2015-11-04 18:30:22] wurstgelee : nothing yet. trying ;)
[2015-11-04 18:30:24] AudibleScience : I'm long... you?
[2015-11-04 18:30:25] Murch : I'm long
[2015-11-04 18:30:27] dynamike23 : bear flexing
[2015-11-04 18:30:28] jung1 : 50% short and 50% long
[2015-11-04 18:30:31] wurstgelee : haha
[2015-11-04 18:30:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : lol
[2015-11-04 18:30:37] Murch : Very long
[2015-11-04 18:30:44] Murch : So you're neutral?
[2015-11-04 18:30:47] jung1 : long since 84
[2015-11-04 18:31:00] wurstgelee : might see another dip tho
[2015-11-04 18:31:04] kasman5 : long ethereum
[2015-11-04 18:31:18] wurstgelee : kasman5: you go long on alts?
[2015-11-04 18:31:22] wurstgelee : CURRENTLY?
[2015-11-04 18:31:23] jung1 : here or on polo?
[2015-11-04 18:31:24] wurstgelee : oO
[2015-11-04 18:31:45] kasman5 : I got some on here, some polo
[2015-11-04 18:31:47] Murch : Dat bitcoin hedging order book
[2015-11-04 18:32:08] kasman5 : price recovered today
[2015-11-04 18:32:13] Yumi : XBU its out of session limit
[2015-11-04 18:32:33] kasman5 : might see it rise now bitcoin has dropped abit
[2015-11-04 18:32:38] Yumi : I think?
[2015-11-04 18:32:45] wurstgelee : not until this rally is finally over
[2015-11-04 18:32:46] BitMEX_Sam : Yumi: Yeah nothing in the book is within the limits
[2015-11-04 18:32:47] wurstgelee : imo
[2015-11-04 18:32:50] Vegetabledude : hi guys i sold 0.02 btc and i can buy now
[2015-11-04 18:32:54] BitMEX_Sam : Limits are 359.95 <-> 539.93
[2015-11-04 18:32:58] Vegetabledude : where my money goes
[2015-11-04 18:33:02] Murch : In a bull market, the drops fuel the rise.
[2015-11-04 18:33:10] Murch : The worse the drop the harder the rise after.
[2015-11-04 18:33:41] wurstgelee : well..this riise is fair so far..at best
[2015-11-04 18:33:45] wurstgelee : *rise
[2015-11-04 18:33:51] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Except for when the bull market ends of course (don't think this is the case now, just saying)
[2015-11-04 18:34:04] Crypto Wealth : do I smell a bear trap?
[2015-11-04 18:34:07] Murch : That's actually the main reason the price started going up so fast this month.
[2015-11-04 18:34:18] Murch : Two years of bitcoin going down made it charge up
[2015-11-04 18:34:38] Murch : and bitcoin has a lot of intrinsic value just due to what it enables
[2015-11-04 18:35:08] zanza : i think the 230 floor was well established
[2015-11-04 18:35:15] zanza : as the bottom
[2015-11-04 18:35:26] jung1 : yeah was nice
[2015-11-04 18:35:34] jung1 : will see what will be next one
[2015-11-04 18:35:38] AudibleScience : I thought I could smell another dump coming... but maybe not yet eh?
[2015-11-04 18:35:38] jung1 : 1k?
[2015-11-04 18:36:02] Murch : zanza: yep that was another contributing factor. It was a confluence of factors really.
[2015-11-04 18:36:17] ilikepies69 : BitMEX_Sam: hi sam, when i tried to close limit a long at a higher price it always got cancelled, how come?
[2015-11-04 18:36:20] BitMEX_Sam : Looking bullish
[2015-11-04 18:36:27] BitMEX_Sam : ilikepies69: Close Limits are IOC now
[2015-11-04 18:36:32] BitMEX_Sam : If they don't hit the book, they cancel
[2015-11-04 18:36:39] BitMEX_Sam : If you want to keep the order in the book, do a regular Limit order
[2015-11-04 18:36:40] Crypto Wealth : AudibleScience: that's a dump sitting inside a bear trade.
[2015-11-04 18:36:46] BitMEX_Sam : You can click the `Your Position` readout to autofill the quantity.
[2015-11-04 18:37:33] Crypto Wealth : nice scalp on that dip.
[2015-11-04 18:38:08] 24hourz : I was expecting a way lower dip
[2015-11-04 18:38:17] AudibleScience : Crypto Wealth: haha
[2015-11-04 18:39:19] jung1 : could be harder now to dump couse a lot of money go into the ecosystem in last two years
[2015-11-04 18:39:25] Crypto Wealth : gotta treat these scalps like jumping into bath full of ice cold water.
[2015-11-04 18:39:25] jung1 : and most of people go long
[2015-11-04 18:39:29] Murch : sold half at 504
[2015-11-04 18:39:31] Murch : hells yeah
[2015-11-04 18:39:37] jung1 : market is much deaper
[2015-11-04 18:39:37] ilikepies69 : BitMEX_Sam: so say i have 5 contracts long, i just set limit sell of 5 contracts at higher price?
[2015-11-04 18:39:48] BitMEX_Sam : ilikepies69: Exactly
[2015-11-04 18:40:09] ilikepies69 : how to use close limit then? @BitMEX_Sam
[2015-11-04 18:40:22] BitMEX_Sam : It will execute if you hit an existing order in the book
[2015-11-04 18:40:24] BitMEX_Sam : Otherwise it will cancel
[2015-11-04 18:40:44] BitMEX_Sam : So place the worst price you're willing to accept in there. So let's say you're long, put, say, 502 in there and it will execute
[2015-11-04 18:41:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I have to go for a bit. Talk to you later and good luck!
[2015-11-04 18:41:37] ilikepies69 : BitMEX_Sam: ok, so look at order book and then set the same price as a present sell order, right?
[2015-11-04 18:41:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : ilikepies69: Doesn't have to be the same price
[2015-11-04 18:41:57] BitMEX_Sam : Yep. You can also just click the order in the book to autofill the close limit price
[2015-11-04 18:42:07] BitMEX_Sam : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: for Close Limit it does
[2015-11-04 18:42:23] ilikepies69 : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: @BitMEX_Sam cheers got that
[2015-11-04 18:42:46] roymalmberg : all your bitcoin are belong to us
[2015-11-04 18:43:57] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: alright dude thanks I'll talk to you later!
[2015-11-04 18:44:13] germanjew : why is 24H higher than 7D ?
[2015-11-04 18:45:23] Murch : BitMEX_Sam: Thank you for adding that it should prove to be very useful.
[2015-11-04 18:45:51] Murch : germanjew: Who knows
[2015-11-04 18:46:10] roymalmberg : BitMEX_Sam: I wonder a thing, XBT24H is the .XBT index, how about XBT7D? I wonder because I wouldn't mind doing some arbitrage
[2015-11-04 18:46:21] BitMEX_Sam : roymalmberg: They both settle on the same index
[2015-11-04 18:46:25] BitMEX_Sam : You could certainly arb the two
[2015-11-04 18:46:35] kasman5 : could you sell daily and buy 7D
[2015-11-04 18:46:37] BitMEX_Sam : Tomorrow they both expire on Friday so I would expect a lot of back & forth
[2015-11-04 18:46:51] Murch : How do you roll over dailies? Do you just have to be awake at settlement and buy again manually?
[2015-11-04 18:47:02] roymalmberg : BitMEX_Sam: Can you provide me with minute data for them both? or is that impossible?
[2015-11-04 18:47:09] justinlooking : yes murch :/
[2015-11-04 18:47:15] Murch : justinlooking: :(
[2015-11-04 18:47:22] germanjew : wow look at 7D spread
[2015-11-04 18:47:24] wurstgelee : going up nicely
[2015-11-04 18:47:35] zanza : 65 spread lol
[2015-11-04 18:47:36] germanjew : bounce underway
[2015-11-04 18:47:40] BitMEX_Sam : roymalmberg: See the API docs
[2015-11-04 18:47:58] justinlooking : BitMEX_Sam: is DPE visible thru API explorer?
[2015-11-04 18:48:10] BitMEX_Sam : justinlooking: Yes, it's a property on the instrument
[2015-11-04 18:48:12] roymalmberg : BitMEX_Sam: okay, just want to make sure the indicies are of the different futures?
[2015-11-04 18:48:16] justinlooking : ok ty
[2015-11-04 18:48:40] roymalmberg : BitMEX_Sam: want to make a spread of two indicies
[2015-11-04 18:48:41] germanjew : are both looking at the last 30 min avg?
[2015-11-04 18:49:00] Satoshi : going to 600 650 now
[2015-11-04 18:49:04] Satoshi : watch
[2015-11-04 18:49:10] cekseh : nice little recharge =)
[2015-11-04 18:49:29] germanjew : 7D uses the last 2 hours of XBT index
[2015-11-04 18:49:29] BitMEX_Sam : justinlooking: `instrument.profitAdjustment`
[2015-11-04 18:50:10] germanjew : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT2H vs https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT30M
[2015-11-04 18:50:43] dorothy490 : @Bitmex_SAm there is a bug. If you doesnt have any open position but had "isolate margin" checked in, strange things happens - I was unable to open orders several times
[2015-11-04 18:50:47] Crypto Wealth : Nice to see a tight spread again on 24hr contracts
[2015-11-04 18:51:01] nickhnt : Crypto Wealth: +1
[2015-11-04 18:51:04] BitMEX_Sam : dorothy490: See the rejection message
[2015-11-04 18:51:21] dorothy490 : what do you mean
[2015-11-04 18:51:33] BitMEX_Sam : dorothy490: You can't open the order, it rejects with an error message, right?
[2015-11-04 18:51:38] Murch : Yipee I'm back to where I started today
[2015-11-04 18:51:40] Murch : whew
[2015-11-04 18:51:40] dorothy490 : yes
[2015-11-04 18:51:44] BitMEX_Sam : dorothy490: What does the message say?
[2015-11-04 18:52:08] dorothy490 : like it's not psosible to open new opsitio ncause I would be liquidated if Ill do it
[2015-11-04 18:52:16] BitMEX_Sam : Yes
[2015-11-04 18:52:26] dorothy490 : but i had enough funds
[2015-11-04 18:52:33] germanjew : that has to do with isolated margin vs cross
[2015-11-04 18:52:42] dorothy490 : I had no open positions
[2015-11-04 18:52:46] BitMEX_Sam : The issue is that if you open up a 100x position right now, say you buy at 522 but the mark price is 513,
[2015-11-04 18:52:50] BitMEX_Sam : That position would immediately be liquidated
[2015-11-04 18:52:51] zanza : China is honey badger
[2015-11-04 18:52:59] dorothy490 : ahh mark price
[2015-11-04 18:53:06] dorothy490 : I see
[2015-11-04 18:53:10] BitMEX_Sam : Open with cross margin, if you isolate after the position will be refilled with adequate margin
[2015-11-04 18:53:29] BitMEX_Sam : You can then add/remove margin at will to reach your desired leverage.
[2015-11-04 18:53:39] dorothy490 : you guys should also have a separate column which is showing Unrealized PNL versus medium of current orderbook or smth
[2015-11-04 18:53:55] dorothy490 : cause it's totally confusing on violatility
[2015-11-04 18:53:57] BitMEX_Sam : dorothy490: Yes I agree,
[2015-11-04 18:54:11] BitMEX_Sam : We've been working on making the mark price follow last more closely
[2015-11-04 18:54:17] BitMEX_Sam : Which will mitigate the issue somewhat.
[2015-11-04 18:55:15] dorothy490 : also I dont get how to setup stop loss for the short orders. For example I had that short opened at ~514 and price was like ~500 then I wanted to issue a "stop loss" like if price reach 511 new order to match my short should be raisesed at 512
[2015-11-04 18:55:32] BitMEX_Sam : Yes
[2015-11-04 18:55:44] dorothy490 : so I tried to use "stop limit" with stop limit buy
[2015-11-04 18:55:48] BitMEX_Sam : You would do a Buy stop, Stop Price 511, Limit Price 512
[2015-11-04 18:56:59] Murch : BitMEX_Sam: Could a stop loss order be made that sets a limit but then executes a market order if that limit hasn't been filled after x seconds?
[2015-11-04 18:57:08] roymalmberg : germanjew: If price settle at the TWAP, does this mean the price will trade closer to TWAP before settlement?
[2015-11-04 18:57:18] BitMEX_Sam : At this time, no, but that would be a nice order type
[2015-11-04 18:57:19] Murch : Just as a sort of insurance.
[2015-11-04 18:57:35] BitMEX_Sam : We plan to add some more order types in the future
[2015-11-04 18:57:52] Murch : Cool looking forward to it
[2015-11-04 18:58:03] BitMEX_Sam : I don't suggest sleeping in this market anyway :)
[2015-11-04 18:58:14] Murch : I'm sure this rally has been quite profitable for you guys which makes me happy
[2015-11-04 18:58:28] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah it's been quite good
[2015-11-04 18:58:37] BitMEX_Sam : More than anything I'm happy to see the trollbox more active than it's ever been
[2015-11-04 18:58:59] Murch : True dat.
[2015-11-04 18:59:08] zanza : lol
[2015-11-04 18:59:21] zanza : trollbox indicator
[2015-11-04 18:59:34] BitMEX_Sam : But for a company that takes all profit in Bitcoin, Bitcoin suddenly doubling in price is a very nice thing
[2015-11-04 18:59:49] germanjew : can we speculate on trollbox activity?
[2015-11-04 18:59:53] germanjew : :D
[2015-11-04 18:59:55] Murch : BitMEX_Sam: hahaha
[2015-11-04 19:00:19] BitMEX_Sam : germanjew: too open to manipulation
[2015-11-04 19:00:24] BitMEX_Sam : would get rekt :D
[2015-11-04 19:00:29] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: 1 week ago, there were maybe 10 words/hour here
[2015-11-04 19:00:32] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-11-04 19:00:38] germanjew : I am really enjoying trading your 24H and 7D contract
[2015-11-04 19:00:50] germanjew : BitMEX_Sam: true dat :D
[2015-11-04 19:00:53] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, glad to see you still around germanjew, IIRC you've been here for a while
[2015-11-04 19:01:13] BitMEX_Sam : Back when we were 3-5x leverage
[2015-11-04 19:01:19] germanjew : thats right
[2015-11-04 19:01:48] BitMEX_Sam : A lot has changed since then.
[2015-11-04 19:02:18] Murch : Yep this place has only gotten better I must say
[2015-11-04 19:02:33] germanjew : yes, plenty! and all for the better
[2015-11-04 19:03:08] wurstgelee : well..not for all. someone has to pay those winnings some make ;)
[2015-11-04 19:03:45] Murch : That would be... us
[2015-11-04 19:03:46] nickhnt : next stop 680 ;D
[2015-11-04 19:03:50] zanza : BitMEX_Sam , i notice in the `Settlement History Table` it seems there hasn't been an adjustment lately
[2015-11-04 19:04:12] zanza : does that mean your algo's are pretty accurate?
[2015-11-04 19:04:40] BitMEX_Sam : zanza: Yeah it means there has been enough liquidity to pick up liquidations
[2015-11-04 19:05:09] zanza : even in the past few weeks, thats pretty impressive
[2015-11-04 19:05:16] Murch : me gusta
[2015-11-04 19:05:20] BitMEX_Sam : The mark price system makes it all possible
[2015-11-04 19:05:27] germanjew : very impressive
[2015-11-04 19:05:28] zanza : real MVP?
[2015-11-04 19:05:29] BitMEX_Sam : A margin call cascade is impossible on BitMEX
[2015-11-04 19:05:38] wurstgelee : so moon again, you say? =)
[2015-11-04 19:05:44] BitMEX_Sam : Hah. Sure
[2015-11-04 19:06:20] dorothy490 : do you gues only 3 in the project?
[2015-11-04 19:07:37] BitMEX_Sam : dorothy490: Say again?