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[2015-11-03 16:59:36] macios15 : finex rocket ftw
[2015-11-03 17:00:13] kasman5 : beautiful
[2015-11-03 17:01:10] jung1 : damn I love green
[2015-11-03 17:01:23] BitMEX_Sam : 400 on XBX.
[2015-11-03 17:01:42] BitMEX_Sam : Premium on 24H is ridiculous right now.
[2015-11-03 17:01:51] wurstgelee : yes
[2015-11-03 17:02:05] BitMEX_Sam : Careful with isolation, mark is lagging a bit on it
[2015-11-03 17:04:16] gustavo7 : going for cny2666
[2015-11-03 17:04:37] Murch : Go China you can doo eet
[2015-11-03 17:05:09] kasman5 : Took profit, I'm neutral. can relax and watch now.
[2015-11-03 17:05:22] Murch : target is 420 on the daily. Don't let me down!
[2015-11-03 17:06:56] Murch : Urge to pussy out rising...
[2015-11-03 17:09:05] Swedishnut : Its so early yet in the week and holidays are coming :)
[2015-11-03 17:09:40] nickhnt : 450
[2015-11-03 17:09:46] Murch : Talk to me dirty, China
[2015-11-03 17:10:04] justinlooking : Murch: be strong, like <strike>russia</strike> china
[2015-11-03 17:10:21] Murch : lol
[2015-11-03 17:11:35] gustavo7 : can you say 2700
[2015-11-03 17:11:59] Murch : 27 billion
[2015-11-03 17:13:02] Murch : Damnit I pussied out
[2015-11-03 17:13:09] Murch : But it's okay got my order in at 419
[2015-11-03 17:16:36] dynamike23 : me too
[2015-11-03 17:17:43] Swedishnut : HODL :P
[2015-11-03 17:17:54] gustavo7 : btfd
[2015-11-03 17:18:08] jung1 : short
[2015-11-03 17:18:09] jung1 : time
[2015-11-03 17:18:10] Murch : Not buying yet.
[2015-11-03 17:18:22] Murch : Just a litttle short
[2015-11-03 17:21:20] Murch : Damn China you crazy
[2015-11-03 17:21:22] jung1 : hope we will go back to 200
[2015-11-03 17:21:25] jung1 : :)
[2015-11-03 17:22:09] Murch : I think we got the momentum to get close to 500 before the first real retrace.
[2015-11-03 17:24:01] zanza : #500
[2015-11-03 17:24:08] kasman5 : possibly. I'm just trading what is see. we're i uncharted territory here
[2015-11-03 17:24:58] Murch : Guess I'ma loading back long again..
[2015-11-03 17:27:11] Swedishnut : yar we are mates
[2015-11-03 17:32:13] kasman5 : this is relentless
[2015-11-03 17:32:28] kasman5 : 417 fine
[2015-11-03 17:32:45] Murch : Green dildos everywhere
[2015-11-03 17:33:34] macios15 : withdraws are realisted before daily set or after?
[2015-11-03 17:34:09] kasman5 : XBTz15 good buy right now
[2015-11-03 17:34:13] cekseh : Should be an hour after now
[2015-11-03 17:34:42] nickhnt : lol my weeklys ROE is insane right now
[2015-11-03 17:35:03] Murch : 7D just seems like a good sell lol
[2015-11-03 17:35:37] kasman5 : yh its gone abit mad that one
[2015-11-03 17:37:01] j8 : 7D only 10$ under Z15
[2015-11-03 17:40:57] Swedishnut : hyuobi is rock climbing :P
[2015-11-03 17:41:13] Murch : Gonna take a break. Feeling sketched out about this rise specifically.
[2015-11-03 17:49:57] gustavo7 : haha faster than the bots, canceled buy 420, got 416
[2015-11-03 17:50:18] Swedishnut : nice dip
[2015-11-03 17:50:25] gustavo7 : (to set off short)
[2015-11-03 17:50:26] Murch : Buying this is questionable.
[2015-11-03 17:51:27] Swedishnut : corrections are normal
[2015-11-03 17:51:54] Murch : Corrections happen on all time scales though.
[2015-11-03 17:52:06] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-11-03 17:52:08] Murch : If this is a correction on a larger time scale then going long is weird.
[2015-11-03 17:52:32] Gemz : when will my withheld profit be available in my available funds?
[2015-11-03 17:52:33] gustavo7 : 700k volume 3 days in a row on huobi wow
[2015-11-03 17:52:51] chueche : @Gemz after the expiry of the contract
[2015-11-03 17:52:51] Swedishnut : I think btc being 24/7 really helps even and in real time correct. in kind of a ripple way.
[2015-11-03 17:53:33] Swedishnut : I've been watching Huobi like it was a channel X news source
[2015-11-03 17:55:00] joequant : As a trader, I hate 24/7 but I'll have to get used to it.
[2015-11-03 17:56:35] gustavo7 : healthy retrace on the dip
[2015-11-03 18:00:16] messiaen8844 : man, two days out and THAThappens
[2015-11-03 18:00:48] MrRGnome : I'm new to this site - when I make a successful pair of trades on an unclosed futures market I see that my profit is held. Is it held until the market closes?
[2015-11-03 18:01:22] BitMEX_Wally : MrRGnome: The profit is held until weekly rebalancing or settlement
[2015-11-03 18:01:25] zanza : yes, it will be 24 hour expiry for 24 hour contract
[2015-11-03 18:01:31] zanza : or on Friday for weekly and above
[2015-11-03 18:01:38] MrRGnome : Thank you
[2015-11-03 18:01:42] zanza : what wally said
[2015-11-03 18:01:47] BitMEX_Wally : MrRGnome: Check out our docs: https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation
[2015-11-03 18:03:19] MrRGnome : I appreciate the help. I'm still struggling to absorb several of the concepts incorporated here.
[2015-11-03 18:04:00] Rizky : any plans to introduce automatic reinvestment?
[2015-11-03 18:04:06] ayy lmao : ayy lmao
[2015-11-03 18:04:31] BitMEX_Wally : Rizky: You mean re-entering a position after the contract has expired?
[2015-11-03 18:04:45] Rizky : more for longer term, on weekly rebals
[2015-11-03 18:04:50] chueche : i really love bitmex, i regret every second that i've traded on the OKCoin woodchipper
[2015-11-03 18:05:13] chueche : lol it get's autoreplaced?
[2015-11-03 18:05:49] zanza : woodchipper
[2015-11-03 18:05:52] Murch : Well I got class soon so this is a good time to top out.
[2015-11-03 18:09:11] BitMEX_Wally : We autoreplace a few rude words
[2015-11-03 18:09:55] BitMEX_Sam : Wouldn't want anyone to get confused and think this was the OKC chat
[2015-11-03 18:10:00] BitMEX_Wally : OKC**n and f**k
[2015-11-03 18:10:05] wurstgelee : anything else besides f uck and 0kcoin?
[2015-11-03 18:10:10] wurstgelee : k :)
[2015-11-03 18:10:14] BitMEX_Wally : Haha you'll just have to find out
[2015-11-03 18:10:30] BitMEX_Wally : BitMEX_Sam: Is that new one in prod yet?
[2015-11-03 18:10:36] BitMEX_Sam : not yet
[2015-11-03 18:10:38] wurstgelee : didnt notice any other replacements so far
[2015-11-03 18:10:57] messiaen8844 : thats insane, seem like exchges have runouf o BTC to sell ;)
[2015-11-03 18:18:30] Gemz : why are the orders almost all the same size 3500? on the daily
[2015-11-03 18:18:53] sleger : you're forbidden to put a different size
[2015-11-03 18:19:02] Murch : I guess I'm probably wrong about that being the top.
[2015-11-03 18:19:05] Murch : On we go?
[2015-11-03 18:19:24] wurstgelee : Murch: yep
[2015-11-03 18:19:41] wurstgelee : no way we have reached the top yet
[2015-11-03 18:20:25] wurstgelee : my left ball has proven itself to ba a valuable trading advisor in the last days.
[2015-11-03 18:20:34] wurstgelee : and it says we go way higher
[2015-11-03 18:21:02] Murch : well gg then
[2015-11-03 18:22:05] nickhnt : lol
[2015-11-03 18:22:19] cekseh : Perfect place to short murch
[2015-11-03 18:22:25] cekseh : Go with your gut
[2015-11-03 18:23:02] wurstgelee : may gut says "don't you dare shorting...."
[2015-11-03 18:23:05] wurstgelee : *my
[2015-11-03 18:25:30] BitMEX_Sam : jesus. crazy price action
[2015-11-03 18:25:33] Murch : cekseh: lolol
[2015-11-03 18:26:05] nickhnt : you must be crazy to short this
[2015-11-03 18:26:07] wurstgelee : cekseh: did you selll the 10k @ 424? :D
[2015-11-03 18:26:11] Murch : gtg to class I'll talk to you guys later.
[2015-11-03 18:26:24] cekseh : Negatory, I was teasing him
[2015-11-03 18:26:27] cekseh : =)
[2015-11-03 18:26:30] Murch : :P
[2015-11-03 18:28:29] kasman5 : fuck is this a new bubble
[2015-11-03 18:28:46] wurstgelee : im just sitting here, mouth open, drooling at the chart
[2015-11-03 18:28:48] wurstgelee : lol
[2015-11-03 18:30:31] Gemz : i can buy 200k contracts with buy costs 0.92 xbt, is this legit?
[2015-11-03 18:30:42] justinlooking : rekt
[2015-11-03 18:31:02] wurstgelee : Gemz: which contracts?
[2015-11-03 18:31:26] BitMEX_Sam : Gemz: If you're massively short that makes sense
[2015-11-03 18:31:27] Gemz : quantity 200k, buy costs it says 0.9240
[2015-11-03 18:31:34] BitMEX_Wally : Gemz: Yes 200,000 contracts is only 90 Bitcoin of notional
[2015-11-03 18:31:48] BitMEX_Wally : So with 100x leverage you only need 0.9240 Bitcoin of margin in your account
[2015-11-03 18:31:50] Gemz : im not short im long
[2015-11-03 18:32:01] Gemz : i see
[2015-11-03 18:32:35] BitMEX_Wally : If the limit price is above the mark price then the Buy Cost will be more than the Sell Cost
[2015-11-03 18:32:40] wurstgelee : BLAZE IT BUTTCOIN
[2015-11-03 18:32:46] wurstgelee : 420 @ finex
[2015-11-03 18:32:48] wurstgelee : =)
[2015-11-03 18:32:55] Gemz : omg im sorry my limit price was 42, forgot a digit
[2015-11-03 18:33:44] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: is it possible that system profits from `XBT24H` will offset DPE on `XBTZ15` and `XBTH16`?
[2015-11-03 18:34:02] BitMEX_Wally : Ahh sorry, I meant 20k not 200k
[2015-11-03 18:35:38] BitMEX_Wally : 200,000 contracts is 856 Bitcoin notional and costs 8.56 Bitcoin to go long
[2015-11-03 18:35:48] Gemz : got it
[2015-11-03 18:36:13] Gemz : at this pace we will reach 500 pretty fast
[2015-11-03 18:37:51] aethlios : BitMEX_Wally: hi I have pending deposits almost 4 hours, blockchain has many unconfirmed transanctions. That's the prob;em right? just waiting?
[2015-11-03 18:38:07] messiaen8844 : memPOO size, no?
[2015-11-03 18:38:26] BitMEX_Wally : aethlios: I think it is tx malleability attack
[2015-11-03 18:38:55] zanza : aethlios what software are you using?
[2015-11-03 18:38:58] zanza : i don't have delay
[2015-11-03 18:39:26] aethlios : my txs have the 0.0001 fee, sending from bitfinex
[2015-11-03 18:39:57] sleger : why is there so many tx malleability attacks on the incoming transfers here
[2015-11-03 18:40:08] sleger : it doesnt happen to me on any other exchange somehow
[2015-11-03 18:40:34] SnackyCoins : Hey wally, any chance of an extra late withdrawl processing? Everything i had sent in the normal batch is held up on the blockchain unconfirmed still and I wanted to send one with a higher fee =\
[2015-11-03 18:41:12] Liivet : It took me about 4 hours just now
[2015-11-03 18:41:19] SnackyCoins : oh are yours coming in?
[2015-11-03 18:41:32] SnackyCoins : oh lol just read above
[2015-11-03 18:41:34] Liivet : got confirmed after a long time :P
[2015-11-03 18:42:07] SnackyCoins : yeah i sent regular tx fee, didnt notice we had heavy traffic, makes perfect sense
[2015-11-03 18:42:32] j8 : mempool is 13.67 mb.. that's 14 1 mb blocks at best
[2015-11-03 18:43:04] gustavo7 : there are ~200Byte blocks whats up with that
[2015-11-03 18:43:13] j8 : jerks
[2015-11-03 18:43:34] j8 : only include one transaction that collects the block reward
[2015-11-03 18:43:55] j8 : processing transactions is optional
[2015-11-03 18:44:36] SnackyCoins : thats silly too
[2015-11-03 18:44:47] SnackyCoins : it's exactly the same to hash a full block as an empty one
[2015-11-03 18:45:13] SnackyCoins : SLIGHT difference when switching blocks to the next one, but that is made up for in tx fees easily
[2015-11-03 18:48:29] Yumi : we need to retrace a bit to clear up liquidations >_>
[2015-11-03 18:48:34] Swedishnut : with all the new apps coming out that include wallets this 2016 how many new youthful eyes will find they now have "bank" accounts and will that spur them into other forms of saving
[2015-11-03 18:49:57] Swedishnut : I think the # in USD was over 1 billion into venture start up companies directly involved in Bitcoin
[2015-11-03 18:50:22] Swedishnut : 2015 calendar year to date.
[2015-11-03 18:51:12] dynamike23 : Swedishnut: That is a very large number.
[2015-11-03 18:51:14] kasman5 : DPE 3.66% on XBTZ15
[2015-11-03 18:51:29] zanza : none of them have viable product though :)
[2015-11-03 18:54:12] Swedishnut : well I can find over 450+ million into new bitcoin stuff http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-26/the-bitcoin-startup-boom-comes-back-down-to-earth
[2015-11-03 18:55:14] Swedishnut : the viable product will end up being a far more secure form of world payment. Also lots of other wonderful things like trading cards on the chain, memberships, car titles, land etc... anything that would need a notary...
[2015-11-03 18:55:23] zanza : there are some investments in "blockchain" technology, (not bitcoin though)
[2015-11-03 18:55:44] Swedishnut : blockchain is bitcoin innevitably as the general populace see it.
[2015-11-03 18:56:24] wurstgelee : every time i tihnk "ok, now we're going down", chinas throws some green candles oO
[2015-11-03 18:56:28] jung1 : another article on economist about bitcoin
[2015-11-03 18:56:37] jung1 : its second one during one week
[2015-11-03 18:56:44] jung1 : pump is comming
[2015-11-03 18:57:03] Swedishnut : awareness is bringing in the smart money
[2015-11-03 18:57:20] kasman5 : economist yesterday, when things calm down its a decent watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORsLL2YW4yQ
[2015-11-03 19:08:00] messiaen8844 : seeeeeeeeeeeellllll
[2015-11-03 19:08:04] BitMEX_Sam : rut roh
[2015-11-03 19:09:19] gustavo7 : and they bought the dip again
[2015-11-03 19:09:49] messiaen8844 : the bots are fast ;)
[2015-11-03 19:10:40] jung1 : damn that chart is gorgeous
[2015-11-03 19:10:52] jung1 : like you draw a chart by ruler
[2015-11-03 19:11:05] MrRGnome : I love the fair price metric. Very nice feature. Really enjoying my time at bitmex so far.
[2015-11-03 19:11:30] jung1 : bitcoin-ruler of new economy ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-11-03 19:13:24] dynamike23 : Bitmex has been great so far, only thing I would like is more liquidity - but it's improving
[2015-11-03 19:19:47] nickhnt : yeah little by little the liquidity is imporving
[2015-11-03 19:20:38] jung1 : +1 I never loose money with such smile as here
[2015-11-03 19:24:53] Blargwaffle : Tighten money!
[2015-11-03 19:25:11] habibi : correction is coming
[2015-11-03 19:26:00] dynamike23 : correction upwards? ;)
[2015-11-03 19:26:45] jung1 : 10$ correction
[2015-11-03 19:27:05] habibi : it's correction after gox down trend :p
[2015-11-03 19:27:36] jung1 : you think that CIA bitcoin auction will have some negative influence on price?
[2015-11-03 19:27:47] habibi : nope
[2015-11-03 19:28:15] habibi : it didnt had in past, only panic. why u think last (overall small part) will have any
[2015-11-03 19:28:26] Warm_porridge : Hi Folks
[2015-11-03 19:28:38] jung1 : people could be afraid of dump
[2015-11-03 19:28:44] jung1 : its like 20k btc
[2015-11-03 19:29:08] jung1 : depends on what price someone will buy it
[2015-11-03 19:30:18] habibi : 20? not 40k ?
[2015-11-03 19:30:36] jung1 : 50k
[2015-11-03 19:30:37] jung1 : 50k sorry
[2015-11-03 19:32:29] jung1 : and some people says that ulbrich still own around 600k
[2015-11-03 19:33:00] jung1 : with that amount of money he could find someone who will help him get out of jail
[2015-11-03 19:35:49] jung1 : #illuminati
[2015-11-03 19:36:41] messiaen8844 : down is the new u?
[2015-11-03 19:36:44] wurstgelee : now we dumo
[2015-11-03 19:36:48] wurstgelee : dump
[2015-11-03 19:36:50] kasman5 : with liquidity of exchanges so thin it represents a decent buying oppurtunity
[2015-11-03 19:37:11] wurstgelee : margin call time
[2015-11-03 19:37:15] Gemz : wow haha
[2015-11-03 19:37:28] Gemz : the question is when to buy?
[2015-11-03 19:37:54] wurstgelee : this is not over
[2015-11-03 19:37:55] wurstgelee : imo
[2015-11-03 19:38:14] jung1 : keep going
[2015-11-03 19:38:15] Swedishnut : btfd?
[2015-11-03 19:38:21] jung1 : red is our friend
[2015-11-03 19:38:26] dynamike23 : glad i didn't leave my desk
[2015-11-03 19:38:51] Gemz : sub 400
[2015-11-03 19:38:56] nickhnt : glad i shorted
[2015-11-03 19:38:59] nickhnt : xD
[2015-11-03 19:39:04] messiaen8844 : any ideas on supports? if there is such a thing here?
[2015-11-03 19:39:13] nickhnt : 390 i think
[2015-11-03 19:39:52] messiaen8844 : hope we see some panic now
[2015-11-03 19:39:53] jung1 : btce selloff
[2015-11-03 19:40:18] jung1 : ok coin try to keep price
[2015-11-03 19:40:49] jung1 : https://hypron.net/bitcoinwisdom/
[2015-11-03 19:41:08] gustavo7 : whoa nelly
[2015-11-03 19:41:13] BitMEX_Sam : insanity
[2015-11-03 19:41:28] messiaen8844 : down we go
[2015-11-03 19:41:46] chueche : buy the dip
[2015-11-03 19:41:51] Yumi : they heard me asking for pullback to clear up liquidations
[2015-11-03 19:41:57] babybaby : going down
[2015-11-03 19:42:00] messiaen8844 : or take the profit
[2015-11-03 19:42:04] SnackyCoins : don't buy this dip
[2015-11-03 19:42:20] Gemz : so many liquidations
[2015-11-03 19:42:30] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-11-03 19:42:30] dynamike23 : SnackyCoins: I'm agreeing with you here
[2015-11-03 19:42:36] kasman5 : might some alts rise
[2015-11-03 19:42:59] BitMEX_Sam : Massacre
[2015-11-03 19:43:00] wendelmaques : WTF?
[2015-11-03 19:43:07] wurstgelee : slowing down tho
[2015-11-03 19:43:16] nickhnt : 365
[2015-11-03 19:43:38] wurstgelee : wtf
[2015-11-03 19:43:43] BitMEX_Sam : Can't believe this
[2015-11-03 19:44:04] Yumi : to be fair its just btc in its pure form
[2015-11-03 19:44:05] messiaen8844 : waiting this for days
[2015-11-03 19:44:08] Yumi : like old times
[2015-11-03 19:44:12] messiaen8844 : it had to reac a top
[2015-11-03 19:44:25] zanza : this is a finex dump
[2015-11-03 19:44:27] zanza : i think
[2015-11-03 19:44:34] messiaen8844 : see you at 280 ;)
[2015-11-03 19:44:44] Gemz : haha omg, brutal
[2015-11-03 19:44:56] jung1 : damn
[2015-11-03 19:45:06] gustavo7 : duh i catched the knife but got out with a 1$ spread
[2015-11-03 19:45:20] messiaen8844 : stop hunting now
[2015-11-03 19:45:26] Gemz : im scared to buy
[2015-11-03 19:45:35] nickhnt : buy the dip
[2015-11-03 19:45:40] wurstgelee : fuck it, i bought
[2015-11-03 19:45:57] dynamike23 : guy who buys this dip has huge balls
[2015-11-03 19:46:17] chueche : bitcoin trading requires huge balls
[2015-11-03 19:46:28] BitMEX_Sam : green candle
[2015-11-03 19:46:28] mwalshe99 : 25 mar futures still haven't adjusted
[2015-11-03 19:46:34] wurstgelee : i can barely walk
[2015-11-03 19:46:39] wurstgelee : with those balls
[2015-11-03 19:46:56] kasman5 : mwalshe99: if my profit wasnlt tied i would have sold that
[2015-11-03 19:47:59] wendelmaques : is possibility to create some type of hedge to prevent the liquidation?
[2015-11-03 19:48:02] jung1 : we will see more red today
[2015-11-03 19:48:18] Yumi : you can add to your position margin
[2015-11-03 19:48:41] BitMEX_Sam : Yep, when isolated see the little blue +B next to your margin
[2015-11-03 19:48:46] BitMEX_Sam : In the positions list
[2015-11-03 19:48:50] messiaen8844 : several exchanges are getting DDOSed
[2015-11-03 19:49:00] jung1 : haha back to 400 from 350
[2015-11-03 19:49:23] nickhnt : lol
[2015-11-03 19:49:28] nickhnt : insanity
[2015-11-03 19:50:12] dynamike23 : fun times
[2015-11-03 19:50:17] dynamike23 : bitcoin casino
[2015-11-03 19:50:22] nickhnt : xD
[2015-11-03 19:50:34] gustavo7 : dat V shape
[2015-11-03 19:50:36] zanza : this finex/stamp shorts i think
[2015-11-03 19:50:40] zanza : not china
[2015-11-03 19:50:41] jung1 : some whales have a lot of fun
[2015-11-03 19:52:37] wurstgelee : how, i almost shat my pants tbh
[2015-11-03 19:52:55] wurstgelee : bought a shitload ~ 3888
[2015-11-03 19:52:59] wurstgelee : 388 ofc
[2015-11-03 19:53:33] wendelmaques : bought at 387.21 and now 411% is that right?
[2015-11-03 19:53:46] messiaen8844 : margin
[2015-11-03 19:53:47] wurstgelee : wendelmaques: not if wait any longer i guess
[2015-11-03 19:53:49] Yumi : the higher you climb the harder you fall
[2015-11-03 19:53:50] BitMEX_Sam : yep that seems right to me, watch though that that's based on mark price
[2015-11-03 19:53:55] BitMEX_Sam : mark is too high right now
[2015-11-03 19:54:27] kilrari : Im staying out of this. Looks like either a small retrace before continuing up or the first dump before retesting 420 and reversal from there
[2015-11-03 19:54:38] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: way too high
[2015-11-03 19:54:53] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah. we're not going to adjust it right now though, it would cause liquidations
[2015-11-03 19:55:01] BitMEX_Sam : as long as it moves the same way as the market it's okay, just watch your isolated positions
[2015-11-03 19:55:34] BitMEX_Sam : coming back up to parity
[2015-11-03 19:55:44] wendelmaques : still learning... I can sell and make some profits right now?
[2015-11-03 19:55:54] zanza : maybe
[2015-11-03 19:55:55] BitMEX_Sam : wendelmaques: unrealised profit is based off mark price, not off best bid/offer
[2015-11-03 19:55:59] BitMEX_Sam : so it depends on the price you exit at
[2015-11-03 19:56:03] messiaen8844 : how does liquidation works? is there space for spikes or it get liquidated right away?
[2015-11-03 19:56:34] BitMEX_Sam : messiaen8844: There's a very small buffer but it basically gets liquidated immediately - but price movements are smoothed out via XBX index
[2015-11-03 19:56:36] nickhnt : messiaen8844: i wish to know that too
[2015-11-03 19:57:48] Yumi : are liquidations based on XBX ticks every second or the 1 minute snaps ?
[2015-11-03 19:58:27] messiaen8844 : must be minute, because earlier it saved me from a liquidation, very glad it did ;)
[2015-11-03 19:58:29] kilrari : On the daily, 50% retrace of the candle means we can still go up if in 4 hours the next daily candle goes up from this close
[2015-11-03 19:59:25] messiaen8844 : lets see how it closes, as we approach the 5th whales may try to scare us ;)
[2015-11-03 19:59:29] kilrari : Don't take it from me though, just a pattern I've noticed during these types of periods
[2015-11-03 20:00:22] messiaen8844 : also, wall street money coming in may be also greed to short this, once it shows any signs of weakness
[2015-11-03 20:03:24] Gemz : not over yet
[2015-11-03 20:04:06] kilrari : my hunch is we go down to 375
[2015-11-03 20:05:20] dynamike23 : time to unfomo
[2015-11-03 20:05:31] chueche : yeah this needs a healthy correction
[2015-11-03 20:05:40] Gemz : taking out my superhero fomo suite
[2015-11-03 20:05:42] chueche : afterwards we will continue the moon flight
[2015-11-03 20:05:58] messiaen8844 : brazil biggest exchange was beeing DDOS today, people must be pissed now lo
[2015-11-03 20:07:24] Yumi : another 50K bid on weekly
[2015-11-03 20:10:13] Gemz : i really dont know to buy or to sell
[2015-11-03 20:10:29] messiaen8844 : then do nothing, sit on hands
[2015-11-03 20:10:32] lazerdye : I'm buying the dip... hopefully it doesn't turn into a trench.
[2015-11-03 20:13:18] messiaen8844 : set the stop below 374, hard to tell whats next
[2015-11-03 20:13:39] dynamike23 : i'm completely in fiat
[2015-11-03 20:14:02] Yumi : there is no fiat on bitmex x)
[2015-11-03 20:14:22] smagin07 : dip dip dip dip dip dip dip dip dip dip
[2015-11-03 20:14:52] wurstgelee : can i see my total turnover somewhere?
[2015-11-03 20:15:06] wurstgelee : like u see it for the referals?
[2015-11-03 20:15:45] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm. Let me see
[2015-11-03 20:16:02] sleger : any DPE ?
[2015-11-03 20:16:10] Yumi : I would like that also, I downloaded whole trade history but its a mess
[2015-11-03 20:16:26] BitMEX_Sam : no DPE anywhere yet
[2015-11-03 20:17:37] mwalshe99 : someone just bet big on xbth16
[2015-11-03 20:17:46] Murch : Dip, you dip, I dip, dip, I dip, you dip, I dip. WHAT
[2015-11-03 20:17:58] wurstgelee : :D
[2015-11-03 20:18:07] jung1 : wtf on daily
[2015-11-03 20:18:11] nickhnt : wt
[2015-11-03 20:18:13] nickhnt : 440?
[2015-11-03 20:18:24] habibi : 440.006230
[2015-11-03 20:18:26] habibi : whatt?
[2015-11-03 20:18:29] jung1 : who bought it?
[2015-11-03 20:18:30] nickhnt : oh shit
[2015-11-03 20:18:38] Murch : lmao rekt
[2015-11-03 20:18:39] habibi : rip
[2015-11-03 20:18:49] nickhnt : lol
[2015-11-03 20:18:51] wurstgelee : omfg
[2015-11-03 20:18:52] messiaen8844 : ?????
[2015-11-03 20:18:56] nickhnt : insta rekt
[2015-11-03 20:19:01] gielbier : wurstgelee: how much are you at ?
[2015-11-03 20:19:07] jung1 : someone type too many "4"
[2015-11-03 20:19:08] jung1 : hehe
[2015-11-03 20:19:14] nickhnt : hahahahah
[2015-11-03 20:19:16] mwalshe99 : market buy
[2015-11-03 20:19:19] wurstgelee : gielbier: cbf
[2015-11-03 20:19:35] Murch : You can only market close can't you?
[2015-11-03 20:19:49] BitMEX_Sam : Murch: No, you can limit
[2015-11-03 20:19:49] nickhnt : for a second i thought it was XBTZ15
[2015-11-03 20:20:06] messiaen8844 : a lesson on liquidity
[2015-11-03 20:20:07] BitMEX_Sam : Just place a limit order, or use Close Limit to do an IOC
[2015-11-03 20:20:12] Murch : BitMEX_Sam: I meant you can't market open a position.
[2015-11-03 20:20:16] BitMEX_Sam : Oh. No
[2015-11-03 20:20:18] messiaen8844 : spread your close
[2015-11-03 20:20:21] BitMEX_Sam : Soon though
[2015-11-03 20:20:30] BitMEX_Sam : Lots of new features on the way
[2015-11-03 20:20:34] Murch : Haha awesome
[2015-11-03 20:21:13] BitMEX_Sam : Yumi: For now I the best way to do that is to download your whole trade history with the script and add up the col
[2015-11-03 20:21:48] Yumi : yea but it needs to be clean up, there are XBT, XBU, litecoin, BVOL
[2015-11-03 20:21:55] BitMEX_Sam : Ah
[2015-11-03 20:22:07] BitMEX_Sam : Well, if you want total turnover that's what you want
[2015-11-03 20:22:28] BitMEX_Sam : But you could add a filter to the query if you like
[2015-11-03 20:22:31] Murch : You could just have separate counts, no?
[2015-11-03 20:23:04] Yumi : Yes, its for sure doable
[2015-11-03 20:24:10] nickhnt : we might be in another great triangle
[2015-11-03 20:24:50] messiaen8844 : when do withheld profits get on my wallet?
[2015-11-03 20:25:35] Murch : Damn it, bitcoin is going to turn me into a degenerate again.
[2015-11-03 20:25:45] Yumi : for XBT for daily each day at 12:00 UTC, for other contracts each friday at 12:00 UTC
[2015-11-03 20:25:47] Murch : Hopefully a wealthier degenerate this time tho..
[2015-11-03 20:25:54] wurstgelee : Murch: it has succeeded if u ask me ;)
[2015-11-03 20:26:08] Murch : wurstgelee: lol damn youuuu
[2015-11-03 20:26:12] wurstgelee : valid for me at least
[2015-11-03 20:26:13] wurstgelee : =)
[2015-11-03 20:26:28] Murch : Yeah shit is too much fun.
[2015-11-03 20:26:36] wurstgelee : yes
[2015-11-03 20:27:19] Murch : Best video game that exists.
[2015-11-03 20:27:23] lazerdye : Leverage addicts...
[2015-11-03 20:27:37] wurstgelee : 100x crack is the devil
[2015-11-03 20:27:44] ayy lmao : lol
[2015-11-03 20:27:54] ayy lmao : that wick to 440 on 24hr
[2015-11-03 20:28:14] ayy lmao : do wicks like that margin call? or only margin call on index price?
[2015-11-03 20:28:40] Yumi : only from index movement
[2015-11-03 20:29:13] Murch : It was only for 50 contracts at that price anyway
[2015-11-03 20:29:20] Murch : Oh nvm
[2015-11-03 20:29:21] Murch : LOL
[2015-11-03 20:29:57] Yumi : It was more, somebody had to market close their position just when MM was refreshing orders
[2015-11-03 20:30:11] Murch : Yeah that's why you don't market close positions
[2015-11-03 20:30:19] wspbtc : yeah that was me
[2015-11-03 20:30:32] wspbtc : I saw enough orders on the books when I hit close
[2015-11-03 20:30:42] lazerdye : ouch
[2015-11-03 20:30:50] wspbtc : yeah I'm not happy,
[2015-11-03 20:30:51] imapotato : Hi everyone.
[2015-11-03 20:31:01] Murch : Damn dude, that's rough I'm sorry
[2015-11-03 20:31:07] wspbtc : last time I use market close
[2015-11-03 20:31:25] Murch : An expensive but valuable lesson
[2015-11-03 20:31:41] wspbtc : it's OK, I started yesterday with .88btc and I'm up over 6. But that position close just ate my lunch
[2015-11-03 20:31:58] messiaen8844 : $ 400 may be an interesting test
[2015-11-03 20:32:09] Murch : Oh wow that must have wiped out most of that :(
[2015-11-03 20:32:19] wspbtc : no not at all.
[2015-11-03 20:32:29] messiaen8844 : just the last part got 440
[2015-11-03 20:32:31] Murch : Can you build it back up again?
[2015-11-03 20:32:33] wspbtc : turned 1btc profit into 1btc loss
[2015-11-03 20:32:44] wspbtc : it wasn't a big position
[2015-11-03 20:32:51] Murch : Fair enough
[2015-11-03 20:32:51] wspbtc : which is why I market close
[2015-11-03 20:32:53] BitMEX_Sam : Ah sorry to hear that wspbtc
[2015-11-03 20:32:53] jung1 : wspbtc: buy high sell low. Stay classy
[2015-11-03 20:33:23] ayy lmao : crya bout l
[2015-11-03 20:33:31] messiaen8844 : no need to be sorry sam, it's part of the learning, you guys are doing your best exposing everything in the interface, very useful tooltips
[2015-11-03 20:33:35] ayy lmao : cry bout life*
[2015-11-03 20:33:42] SnackyCoins : making money trading is easy. keeping it is hard
[2015-11-03 20:33:43] wspbtc : yeah, like I said I checked the orders on the books when i clicked the button. Won't make that mistake again. Tried to get lazy and not go type in a limit
[2015-11-03 20:34:21] jung1 : stop limits on that ride its not so wisdom
[2015-11-03 20:34:30] wurstgelee : keeping is easy. stop trading :)
[2015-11-03 20:34:51] sleger : at what time are withdrawals processed ?
[2015-11-03 20:34:57] Murch : Nah man, stop trading is the hard part.
[2015-11-03 20:35:20] Yumi : sleger: 13:00 UTC
[2015-11-03 20:35:36] sleger : thanks
[2015-11-03 20:35:42] BitMEX_Sam : Yumi: I've updated the script to take a filter via the CLI
[2015-11-03 20:35:51] BitMEX_Sam : should help a bit
[2015-11-03 20:36:11] nickhnt : i trade so i wont trade in the future
[2015-11-03 20:36:23] BitMEX_Sam : wspbtc's experience is the reason why we've held out on providing market orders for so long
[2015-11-03 20:36:42] BitMEX_Sam : Liquidity can dry up in a split second and leave you with an execution you really didn't want
[2015-11-03 20:36:46] SnackyCoins : close limit deep into the book is as good as market imo
[2015-11-03 20:36:49] wspbtc : yep
[2015-11-03 20:36:49] Yumi : BitMEX_Sam: cool I will check it out
[2015-11-03 20:36:52] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah that's the much better option
[2015-11-03 20:37:50] messiaen8844 : $ 400 test failed, down w
[2015-11-03 20:38:58] Murch : Nah just taking a breather
[2015-11-03 20:39:06] nickhnt : messiaen8844: dont be so fast in the conclusions
[2015-11-03 20:39:11] jung1 : yeah!
[2015-11-03 20:39:16] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Where did the other side of the order book go on XBT24H :p
[2015-11-03 20:39:49] ayy lmao : lol did u name ur username your btc address
[2015-11-03 20:40:17] Murch : "Cya later market maker"
[2015-11-03 20:40:19] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Nope, it's just random alphanumerics. That first character is actually an i
[2015-11-03 20:40:35] Murch : "In a while stupid child"
[2015-11-03 20:40:35] ayy lmao : oh lol
[2015-11-03 20:41:15] abc123 : Tired of "giving" my money away on this shit
[2015-11-03 20:41:28] Murch : wanna give it to me instead?
[2015-11-03 20:41:28] messiaen8844 : well, hit 399.99 four times
[2015-11-03 20:42:20] abc123 : BitMEX must be rigged
[2015-11-03 20:42:49] wspbtc : I'm just in here learning the platform. Started with less than a btc and have been trading recklessly to figure out all the edge cases. Just let that 440 wick be a lesson - don't market close, ever. The one time you try it, the book will dissapear and you will be boned :-)
[2015-11-03 20:42:55] SnackyCoins : bitmex is not rigged, the market is. ;)
[2015-11-03 20:43:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'm pretty sure BitMEX is the least rigged of all the exchanges with leverage
[2015-11-03 20:43:29] SnackyCoins : ^
[2015-11-03 20:43:46] messiaen8844 : a good way is to trade like 5 contracts and try just every option in the interface so you get the hang of stop, close, margin, et
[2015-11-03 20:43:49] SnackyCoins : yeah at least here, you know, the exchange is online during the action
[2015-11-03 20:44:02] Murch : That's also cause every other place is shady as fuck.
[2015-11-03 20:44:16] SnackyCoins : as opposed to getting ddos/dropping offline leaving you unable to get out of position
[2015-11-03 20:44:24] SnackyCoins : cough OKC cough
[2015-11-03 20:44:34] Murch : SnackyCoins: yeah fuck those guys.
[2015-11-03 20:44:38] BitMEX_Sam : Also try Testnet if you want to try all the features out without risk
[2015-11-03 20:44:42] BitMEX_Sam : https://testnet.bitmex.com
[2015-11-03 20:45:04] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: Solid advice. On my very first trade I missed out on ridiculous profit because I didn't know about Isolated Margin and was scared of the Liq. Price being so close to my entry
[2015-11-03 20:45:37] SnackyCoins : lots of mistakes to make, in the trading world
[2015-11-03 20:46:03] messiaen8844 : futures trading is risky, it's hard to become cocky if your first trades turn out in huge profi
[2015-11-03 20:46:14] messiaen8844 : i mean, easy
[2015-11-03 20:46:28] messiaen8844 : be aware of the risk, losing your whole balance is not hard
[2015-11-03 20:46:36] Murch : bitcoinwisdom shit its pants for anyone else?
[2015-11-03 20:47:06] Swedishnut : wisdom is working for me.
[2015-11-03 20:47:14] gielbier : down here
[2015-11-03 20:47:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I've done that too. Slowly building back up. Definitely don't let bad positions run. Get out and live to trade another day
[2015-11-03 20:47:35] messiaen8844 : i am trying cryptowatch, seems more responsive than w
[2015-11-03 20:47:44] messiaen8844 : bitcoinwisd
[2015-11-03 20:47:47] SnackyCoins : "I used to be a successful trader, then I had a few bad minutes"
[2015-11-03 20:47:59] Murch : looool
[2015-11-03 20:48:02] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : lol
[2015-11-03 20:48:02] Murch : The feels
[2015-11-03 20:48:04] messiaen8844 : that describes my last year trading in forex ;)
[2015-11-03 20:48:45] messiaen8844 : low leverage is the key,
[2015-11-03 20:49:02] SnackyCoins : it certainly helps, indeed
[2015-11-03 20:49:20] jung1 : 404 PUMP NOT FOUND
[2015-11-03 20:49:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : @jung1 give it time
[2015-11-03 20:49:46] messiaen8844 : whats happening with huobi??look 5 minute c
[2015-11-03 20:50:14] jung1 : kraken also have some problems
[2015-11-03 20:50:53] Murch : Forget wisdom, on to cryptowatch
[2015-11-03 20:50:55] lazerdye : My Polish exchange keeps getting timeouts... ddos maybe
[2015-11-03 20:51:04] messiaen8844 : also biggest brazilian exchange, developer said someone is DDOSing multiple exchanges today
[2015-11-03 20:51:34] Swedishnut : my guess is btc is under a shadow attack to stagnate and frustrate the evolving and very infant market that is btc
[2015-11-03 20:52:25] Murch : I don't like what I'm seeing here.
[2015-11-03 20:52:27] Murch : Time to gtfo.
[2015-11-03 20:52:33] jung1 : lazerdye: bitmarket?
[2015-11-03 20:52:34] messiaen8844 : turns out bitcoin network is easy to attack, or better, to annoy, thats the reality
[2015-11-03 20:52:44] lazerdye : /msg
[2015-11-03 20:52:46] lazerdye : mm
[2015-11-03 20:52:54] lazerdye : Yeah, bitmarket
[2015-11-03 20:53:16] Swedishnut : annoy I agree. and that is where future alt coins that have proven track records will exist and find their value added proposition
[2015-11-03 20:53:18] jung1 : sie wszyscy rzucili żeby dokupić
[2015-11-03 20:53:43] messiaen8844 : bitcoin has to grow and distribute, plus theres the developer schism
[2015-11-03 20:54:08] sleger : Would be nice if withdrawals could be done at least 2x a day by the way
[2015-11-03 20:54:36] Murch : Agreed, although I'm sure they'll get to that eventually
[2015-11-03 20:55:13] jung1 : thats for sure but keep an eye on such coins as eth, bitshares, monero or even ltc. They are silly cheap right now and they could take some space in future world economy
[2015-11-03 20:55:17] jung1 : and xrp
[2015-11-03 20:55:32] messiaen8844 : i hold some ethere
[2015-11-03 20:55:49] Murch : Make sure to check out alts when bitcoin is done surging ridiculously.
[2015-11-03 20:56:09] messiaen8844 : yes, money will migrate
[2015-11-03 20:56:22] jung1 : during dump these altocins will explode