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[2016-11-24 12:23:08] RAENIR : Thanks for the clarification Wally
[2016-11-24 12:23:19] RocketScience : the lotto category requires 1 trade and 1 comment in trollbox
[2016-11-24 12:24:00] RAENIR : right. 1/600 is pretty good odds for 2 BTC. I get it, thanks.
[2016-11-24 12:24:20] chaos : thanks
[2016-11-24 12:24:20] anonymous789 : hardly any of those 600 people comment in here too
[2016-11-24 12:24:25] anonymous789 : lol
[2016-11-24 12:24:35] arbitrage001 : normally just a few people chat here
[2016-11-24 12:24:37] thiago : Im holding a long @ 743,63 since yesterday.. feels like forever...
[2016-11-24 12:24:39] habibi : more comments u do more chances u have guys!
[2016-11-24 12:24:42] arbitrage001 : around 10-20
[2016-11-24 12:24:47] arbitrage001 : habibi is one
[2016-11-24 12:24:48] aabtc : herro i am a random commentor i am now valid for the contest rite thanks
[2016-11-24 12:24:49] anonymous789 : habibi: don't tell them
[2016-11-24 12:25:13] RAENIR : lol okay i get the wash trade logic now. nice.
[2016-11-24 12:25:22] anonymous789 : i still don't get it
[2016-11-24 12:26:43] shery : thiago: forever what?
[2016-11-24 12:27:30] anonymous789 : so i've had a position open since november 23rd does that count?
[2016-11-24 12:27:33] xbtopps : yo
[2016-11-24 12:27:49] Naloxone : g
[2016-11-24 12:27:59] RAENIR : anonymous789: from what i understand yes
[2016-11-24 12:28:03] BitMEX_Wally : Net increase in PNL this period is what counts
[2016-11-24 12:28:08] RocketScience : what if reddit army comes here to comment?
[2016-11-24 12:28:11] anonymous789 : cool cool
[2016-11-24 12:28:32] shhnyrutti : Maybe here me lucky
[2016-11-24 12:28:40] RAENIR : curious to see what the top P&L will look like. Will it be published?
[2016-11-24 12:28:44] BitMEX_Wally : So if you go from -8 XBT unrealised PNL to -7 XBT unrealised PNL then that counts as +1 XBT net profit
[2016-11-24 12:29:05] BitMEX_Wally : RAENIR: Yes we will contact the winners who have to agree to having their username published if they want the prize
[2016-11-24 12:29:23] RAENIR : Thanks, Wally.
[2016-11-24 12:29:30] anonymous789 : by username i assume you mean the same one we got on troll box?
[2016-11-24 12:29:33] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2016-11-24 12:29:35] arbitrage001 : only whale will win then
[2016-11-24 12:29:39] arbitrage001 : most of us small fish
[2016-11-24 12:30:24] RAENIR : imagine a 100BTC gain in P&L in 24hrs. That'll be nuts for guys like us
[2016-11-24 12:31:12] BitMEX_Wally : We're excluding market makers
[2016-11-24 12:31:16] anonymous789 : imo it should be a percentage gain
[2016-11-24 12:31:40] RAENIR : BitMEX_Wally: Ah, that makes the turnover category much fairer
[2016-11-24 12:31:42] anonymous789 : obviously whales need to make less profit in percentage terms to profit more
[2016-11-24 12:31:45] aili : yeah, lets all go all in)
[2016-11-24 12:31:54] aili : someone will defiantly win)
[2016-11-24 12:32:07] Boontjie : apply a weight to percentage and notional
[2016-11-24 12:32:17] Boontjie : else someone with 0.01 btc can just yolo on a few accounts
[2016-11-24 12:32:24] anonymous789 : whale puts 1000 btc on 1 trade, makes 1% profit and that's 10btc on one trade lol
[2016-11-24 12:32:59] RocketScience : there is not enough liquidity for 1000 btc
[2016-11-24 12:33:04] arbitrage001 : sleger mentioned he has 400k+ contract open on xbtz16
[2016-11-24 12:33:06] RAENIR : dat slippage though, don't think we have enough liquidity to take 1000BTC worth
[2016-11-24 12:33:06] anonymous789 : just an example
[2016-11-24 12:33:07] RocketScience : except if he trades with himself
[2016-11-24 12:33:15] lopol : wow nice 2 btc bonus coming for shorting ZEC
[2016-11-24 12:33:18] arbitrage001 : hard to beat it as a normal person
[2016-11-24 12:33:29] RAENIR : 400k yikes
[2016-11-24 12:33:50] donkey : if some of you go all in and get 10000% roi stil dont stand a chance to win anything
[2016-11-24 12:33:50] RocketScience : 400k with no leverage
[2016-11-24 12:34:29] thomaskikansha : zec going
[2016-11-24 12:34:40] anonymous789 : meh i'm gonna trade as normal i got no chance of winning this shit
[2016-11-24 12:34:42] anonymous789 : lol
[2016-11-24 12:36:59] kdeath : just put in my entry for the pot luck draw - good luck to all and thanks the the BitMex team for all their hard work on this platform
[2016-11-24 12:37:38] gujiguji : I am feeling lucky!
[2016-11-24 12:37:52] mbaril : kdeath: Totally agree with you :) Good luck to all
[2016-11-24 12:38:38] Monsta : Good luck to me
[2016-11-24 12:38:58] shery : i have a feeling that i will win
[2016-11-24 12:40:42] anonymous789 : funny this little sucker rally never happened on the okc exchange
[2016-11-24 12:41:38] anonymous789 : just a little retracement
[2016-11-24 12:42:46] wurstgelee : choo choo zec
[2016-11-24 12:43:47] shery : btc should define 1 deriction
[2016-11-24 12:43:55] shery : This up down doesnt suits it
[2016-11-24 12:44:08] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: let's hope the price stick this time
[2016-11-24 12:44:26] wurstgelee : maybe it does, maybe it doesnt this time
[2016-11-24 12:44:45] wurstgelee : but pump is serious in both cases ;)
[2016-11-24 12:45:42] lopol : So what advantages ZEC has over XMR?
[2016-11-24 12:46:23] wurstgelee : lopol: several
[2016-11-24 12:46:33] RocketScience : Zero-proof transactions (zksnark)
[2016-11-24 12:46:53] RocketScience : you don't know the sender and amount sent
[2016-11-24 12:47:05] cryptologe : am I lucky?
[2016-11-24 12:47:20] wurstgelee : lopol: try to send coins to an adress and prove u send them while the receiver doesnt know where they came from with xmr
[2016-11-24 12:47:41] thealterego : any adm online?
[2016-11-24 12:48:27] RocketScience : BitMEX_Wally:
[2016-11-24 12:49:16] btcsi : zec double top?
[2016-11-24 12:49:35] wurstgelee : ?
[2016-11-24 12:49:43] SNORTEX : ZEC going down
[2016-11-24 12:52:21] thealterego : BitMEX_Wally: I'd like to suggest a lock/unlock button to the leverage bar on mobile screens. Sometimes I'm just scrolling and I end up draggin it to somewhere else. Kinda dangerous.
[2016-11-24 12:53:27] wurstgelee : thealterego: confirmation popup on leverage change would make more sense. configurable in user settings (enable/disable)
[2016-11-24 12:53:52] thealterego : wurstgelee: good. even better
[2016-11-24 12:59:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 25 @ 0.013020
[2016-11-24 12:59:41] shery : REKT: why you share these???
[2016-11-24 12:59:57] shery : REKT: i feel you only get liquiadated all day long
[2016-11-24 13:00:45] lopol : it is bot
[2016-11-24 13:00:47] golem : BitMEX_Wally: do you have any technical problems right now ?
[2016-11-24 13:01:01] habibi : shery: he is good player, wait until he will publish his earnihs
[2016-11-24 13:01:06] BitMEX_Wally : golem: What are you seeing?
[2016-11-24 13:01:37] wurstgelee : habibi: :D
[2016-11-24 13:02:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 25 @ 0.012960
[2016-11-24 13:02:02] golem : many of my orders have delay
[2016-11-24 13:02:11] wurstgelee : .
[2016-11-24 13:02:13] wurstgelee : test
[2016-11-24 13:02:23] wurstgelee : no lagging here
[2016-11-24 13:02:33] golem : and I see lack of liquidity on perpetual swap as well
[2016-11-24 13:03:25] raisetheblade : Gentlemen, good morning from the southwestern edge of the western hemisphere.
[2016-11-24 13:03:31] GreedyGoblin : I’m Feeling Lucky
[2016-11-24 13:03:55] habibi : GreedyGoblin: say it 3 times every minute for next 24 hours and u will win for sure!
[2016-11-24 13:04:04] golem : lack of liquidity is probably different problem but anyways , I would like to confirm that yours engine works well
[2016-11-24 13:04:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 30 @ 0.010802
[2016-11-24 13:06:08] BitMEX_Wally : golem: No problems on our end, everything looks good
[2016-11-24 13:06:22] sharp : hey guys
[2016-11-24 13:07:05] thiago : BitMEX_Wally: any chance of adding ARC tokens?
[2016-11-24 13:07:16] l3f : BitMEX_Wally: https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/XBTUSD
[2016-11-24 13:07:18] golem : ok thank you
[2016-11-24 13:07:35] l3f : BitMEX_Wally: why is the last candle always completely flat?
[2016-11-24 13:07:41] l3f : I'm on 1D btw
[2016-11-24 13:08:57] BitMEX_Wally : The 'last' candle is a fake candle made from the current price
[2016-11-24 13:09:15] BitMEX_Wally : The candles are generated at 12:00 UTC so the last candle you see is only the last hour
[2016-11-24 13:09:20] l3f : Shouldn't it show movement in the current 1D or last hour
[2016-11-24 13:09:48] l3f : it looks super silly on the day chart
[2016-11-24 13:09:51] l3f : completely flat
[2016-11-24 13:09:54] shery : Any realistic short ter views on btc
[2016-11-24 13:10:15] BitMEX_Wally : Here's the raw data for the last actual bin 2016.11.24 00:00:00.000000000 XBTUSD 751.57 753.2 730f 740.47
[2016-11-24 13:10:20] l3f : shery: until the segwits unfuck themselves, the price will stay down
[2016-11-24 13:10:47] l3f : BitMEX_Wally: well there's 10 dollar of movement s there at least
[2016-11-24 13:10:50] shery : l3f: segwits??
[2016-11-24 13:11:04] BitMEX_Wally : Bin starts at 2016.11.23 12:00 and ends at 2016.11.24 12:00 and that is plotted on the graph as '2016-11-23' I think
[2016-11-24 13:11:09] l3f : shery: and big blockers
[2016-11-24 13:12:03] shery : l3f: Hw low it could Go
[2016-11-24 13:12:11] l3f : shery: make up your own mind
[2016-11-24 13:12:26] l3f : shery: aka zero
[2016-11-24 13:13:43] l3f : BitMEX_Wally: I am very confused now
[2016-11-24 13:14:26] l3f : Anyways what I'm saying is that the expanded version of the chart
[2016-11-24 13:14:42] l3f : looks nothing like the chart in embedded in the trading screen w.r.t the last candle
[2016-11-24 13:15:23] l3f : So if you press the full screen button you'll see something different
[2016-11-24 13:15:28] BitMEX_Wally : l3f: When you say 1D are you talking about the candle size of 1D, or a chart period of 1d?
[2016-11-24 13:15:40] l3f : chart period
[2016-11-24 13:15:43] BitMEX_Wally : Ahh
[2016-11-24 13:15:49] BitMEX_Wally : So that's 5 minute candles by default
[2016-11-24 13:16:19] l3f : I mean I pick 1D on the combobox on the top left
[2016-11-24 13:16:34] l3f : and the background of my chart says ZECZ16, 1D
[2016-11-24 13:17:18] BitMEX_Wally : Ok, candle size of 1D then
[2016-11-24 13:17:34] BitMEX_Wally : Please could you email some screenshots to support@bitmex.com so I can take detailed look at the issue?
[2016-11-24 13:17:50] l3f : I'll send if when I see it again
[2016-11-24 13:19:43] DingSao : Hello everybody, I will announce myself for the competition!
[2016-11-24 13:19:57] thomaskikansha : zec to local high
[2016-11-24 13:20:48] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-24 13:21:11] wurstgelee : next stop margin call city
[2016-11-24 13:21:25] l3f : rid the pump train baby
[2016-11-24 13:21:30] CapitalGains : Ahem.
[2016-11-24 13:21:33] l3f : hope you all bought your moon tickets
[2016-11-24 13:21:40] thomaskikansha : grabbed my longs
[2016-11-24 13:21:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 19 @ 0.010688
[2016-11-24 13:21:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 900 @ 0.010554
[2016-11-24 13:22:22] thiago : is that a bot?
[2016-11-24 13:22:49] CapitalGains : REKT: Are you a bot?
[2016-11-24 13:22:57] lopol : yes it is
[2016-11-24 13:23:21] thiago : to let us know somedoy got screwed? thats nice
[2016-11-24 13:23:28] CapitalGains : REKT sometimes has some snide comments to make
[2016-11-24 13:27:02] pittapatta : lulz
[2016-11-24 13:30:22] thomaskikansha : 0.128 to break
[2016-11-24 13:31:41] echofilter : so zcash contracts say max lev is 4x, but i'm limited to 2x?
[2016-11-24 13:32:06] wurstgelee : echofilter: where does it say 4x?
[2016-11-24 13:32:19] thomaskikansha : maintenance margin 25%
[2016-11-24 13:32:34] thomaskikansha : initial margin min. 50%
[2016-11-24 13:32:37] echofilter : when i mouse over the exclamation it says max leverage is 4x
[2016-11-24 13:32:55] echofilter : but slider only goes to 2x
[2016-11-24 13:33:11] kradiav : this is the winning entry :)
[2016-11-24 13:33:59] wurstgelee : echofilter: which exclamation mark exactly?
[2016-11-24 13:34:01] wurstgelee : there are several
[2016-11-24 13:34:18] echofilter : wurstgelee: The red one directly above the leverage slider, in the red zone
[2016-11-24 13:35:17] wurstgelee : echofilter: if u have a 2x position and the market moves against u, your leverage will become higher than 2x
[2016-11-24 13:35:21] wurstgelee : until it mc's you
[2016-11-24 13:35:46] wurstgelee : it's a little irritating tho
[2016-11-24 13:35:51] echofilter : oh, i see
[2016-11-24 13:36:09] echofilter : irritating why?
[2016-11-24 13:37:09] wurstgelee : because u could think you can chose up to 4x leverage
[2016-11-24 13:37:18] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-24 13:37:30] echofilter : true lol
[2016-11-24 13:37:35] echofilter : ty for the explanation
[2016-11-24 13:47:47] wurstgelee : np
[2016-11-24 13:56:40] sharp : zec going to 0.15?
[2016-11-24 13:59:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: Sell 1000000 @ 0.00000936
[2016-11-24 14:00:19] sleger : huuuuuuge liq
[2016-11-24 14:00:49] wurstgelee : day 3
[2016-11-24 14:00:52] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-24 14:00:59] wurstgelee : that was mine. didnt pay attention
[2016-11-24 14:02:44] laisee : comp winner?
[2016-11-24 14:05:47] CWL : I entered a trade, because I'm feeling lucky ;)
[2016-11-24 14:08:09] mjones : wow zec went back up
[2016-11-24 14:09:09] rapidtrades : get out now jones
[2016-11-24 14:20:57] mjones : i want to see some large zec liquidations today
[2016-11-24 14:24:57] justinlooking : :)
[2016-11-24 14:25:53] chaunceylee : what will happen tomorrow about eth
[2016-11-24 14:26:34] chaunceylee : what will happen when Settlement occurs every Friday
[2016-11-24 14:26:38] rekt : what is 1 contract price in btc?
[2016-11-24 14:27:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 21000 @ 751.91
[2016-11-24 14:27:44] chaunceylee : all settled at Liq.Price？
[2016-11-24 14:29:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 5000 @ 0.001077
[2016-11-24 14:30:52] mjones : settled at mark price
[2016-11-24 14:30:58] raisetheblade : whats our target price today? $745? $750?
[2016-11-24 14:31:01] mjones : index price
[2016-11-24 14:31:04] LoB : Hadn't even noticed that mex has a trollbox
[2016-11-24 14:31:35] anonymous789 : gold breaks below 1200 dollars
[2016-11-24 14:31:44] anonymous789 : wonder if it will spill over into btc
[2016-11-24 14:31:53] anonymous789 : the negative sentiment that is
[2016-11-24 14:34:52] numero : anyone know where I can bet that Tetsuo (or one of his aliases) wins "I'm Feeling Lucky"?
[2016-11-24 14:34:57] numero : I like those odds
[2016-11-24 14:35:17] numero : I'm feeling decidely unlucky, but hey you never know
[2016-11-24 14:36:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1900 @ 0.012720
[2016-11-24 14:36:37] habibi : eth forked
[2016-11-24 14:38:30] raisetheblade : @LoB the MX trollbox its a miracle
[2016-11-24 14:39:28] pterion2910 : Lets roll guys..pump the zec
[2016-11-24 14:40:22] trading : i am feeling lucky
[2016-11-24 14:40:25] pittapatta : whats the matter with eth @ bitmex?
[2016-11-24 14:41:05] billyboy402 : Eth has a fork . and the deveolper have ask to hold on withdraws and depoist
[2016-11-24 14:41:23] pittapatta : another fork?
[2016-11-24 14:41:30] habibi : pittapatta: eth forked into 2 chains
[2016-11-24 14:41:46] pittapatta : thanks for the intel
[2016-11-24 14:46:11] chaunceylee : does settlement means settled @ liq,price
[2016-11-24 14:46:37] wurstgelee : no, at mark price
[2016-11-24 14:46:39] mjones : xmr perfect inverse head and shoulders. prepare for liftoff once 0.012 breaks
[2016-11-24 14:47:56] chaunceylee : eth soloved a big problem trough a new fork , why eth goes down sharply today
[2016-11-24 14:48:17] wurstgelee : mjones: i really tried to find that inverse h&s oO
[2016-11-24 14:48:20] wurstgelee : which tf?
[2016-11-24 14:48:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 74 @ 0.012530
[2016-11-24 14:48:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.012540
[2016-11-24 14:49:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 2100 @ 0.012480
[2016-11-24 14:49:28] wurstgelee : some good dumping @ eth atm
[2016-11-24 14:49:33] lopol : what issues is happening on eth now?
[2016-11-24 14:50:45] anonymous789 : just a good time to buy the dip
[2016-11-24 14:50:49] mjones : rip eth
[2016-11-24 14:50:55] wurstgelee : lopol: https://twitter.com/CryptOrca/status/801798896343203841
[2016-11-24 14:50:58] wurstgelee : network issues...
[2016-11-24 14:51:01] mjones : 0.01248 rofl
[2016-11-24 14:51:01] wurstgelee : who would have thought
[2016-11-24 14:51:09] wurstgelee : fork 4 and still network issues
[2016-11-24 14:51:10] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-24 14:51:36] anonymous789 : i love it, i'll be buying all the way to $1
[2016-11-24 14:51:43] shiroe : eth floor is 5usd. at 500m cap. lels
[2016-11-24 14:51:55] anonymous789 : imo it's far superior to bitcoin in every way possible
[2016-11-24 14:52:04] wurstgelee : anonymous789: lol
[2016-11-24 14:52:15] wurstgelee : for example because of ledger integrity? :p
[2016-11-24 14:52:24] shiroe : superiority doesnt mean stable. :P
[2016-11-24 14:52:29] anonymous789 : you're talking about immutability, and immutability is a myth
[2016-11-24 14:52:37] anonymous789 : bitcoin will need to fork eventually
[2016-11-24 14:52:42] anonymous789 : it is inevitable
[2016-11-24 14:52:50] wurstgelee : no, i am talking about ledger consistency
[2016-11-24 14:52:52] anonymous789 : as agent smith would say
[2016-11-24 14:53:03] shery : btc dump incoming?
[2016-11-24 14:53:04] shiroe : bitcoin will fork and absorb eth tech. lmao
[2016-11-24 14:53:15] wurstgelee : usually coins have one ledger. not one dead ledger glued together with a new one
[2016-11-24 14:53:20] wurstgelee : i dont see how this is superior ;9
[2016-11-24 14:53:59] anonymous789 : what are you talking about?
[2016-11-24 14:54:08] anonymous789 : you talking about ETC and ETH?
[2016-11-24 14:54:19] wurstgelee : that fork, yep
[2016-11-24 14:54:22] anonymous789 : aah lmao
[2016-11-24 14:54:26] wurstgelee : not about etc tho, that doesnt mater in this case
[2016-11-24 14:54:31] wurstgelee : *matter
[2016-11-24 14:54:43] anonymous789 : i wish most people are like you in the crypto space, i will be a multi-millionaire 10 times over :D
[2016-11-24 14:55:05] wurstgelee : dont get me wrong, i still trade it
[2016-11-24 14:55:07] mjones : i kinda wanna short eth since it is sooo close to making new lows. no telling how low it'll go
[2016-11-24 14:55:12] wurstgelee : if i can make money off it, sure
[2016-11-24 14:55:27] anonymous789 : ledger inconsistency that you're talking about is the same thing as immutability i'm talking about
[2016-11-24 14:55:37] mjones : dump a million of the 86 million coins and watch the price crash
[2016-11-24 14:55:47] homer9492 : test42
[2016-11-24 14:55:51] wurstgelee : anonymous789: can be the same. doesnt have to ;)
[2016-11-24 14:56:23] anonymous789 : what people don't seem to get is, we (the eth community) actually believe in our devs lol
[2016-11-24 14:56:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1420 @ 0.012360
[2016-11-24 14:56:54] anonymous789 : the ethereum foundation has a lot of support and we put our faith in them, when they say fork because it's best for eth, we agree
[2016-11-24 14:56:59] wurstgelee : anonymous789: np with that. ;) but please tell them to get their shit together and fix those network problems
[2016-11-24 14:57:04] wurstgelee : 4 forks and still issues....
[2016-11-24 14:57:09] anonymous789 : bitcoin community is a bunch of skeptics, that attitude is doomed to fail
[2016-11-24 14:57:36] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: have you heard about the bitcoin bug which was generating billions of bitcoins in 2009 ? lol
[2016-11-24 14:57:37] mjones : 43,000 open contracts on eth. no longs in profit. lets see what happens
[2016-11-24 14:57:48] wurstgelee : anonymous789: yep. 1 bug that was fixed in 1 fork
[2016-11-24 14:57:52] wurstgelee : thats how its done ;)
[2016-11-24 14:57:55] anonymous789 : excellent
[2016-11-24 14:58:02] anonymous789 : well it took 4 forks to fix 4 issues
[2016-11-24 14:58:10] anonymous789 : bitcoin had more forks than that
[2016-11-24 14:58:17] anonymous789 : people seem to forget
[2016-11-24 14:58:21] anonymous789 : ETH is just over a year old lol
[2016-11-24 14:58:22] wurstgelee : anonymous789: and now there's another issue
[2016-11-24 14:58:24] laisee : 100% hit rate, nice
[2016-11-24 14:58:29] mjones : 0.0123 ETH low. currently 0.0126
[2016-11-24 14:58:33] anonymous789 : i'm glad there are issues, for 2 reasons
[2016-11-24 14:58:46] anonymous789 : 1) these issues need to come out now before ETH is mainstream
[2016-11-24 14:58:55] anonymous789 : 2) it helps me buy in at a lower price
[2016-11-24 14:59:18] wurstgelee : mjones: longing some bc everyone expects it to die. my guess is eth bulls will hold the line currently
[2016-11-24 14:59:21] shiroe : low price means 1btc = 2k eth? :P
[2016-11-24 14:59:37] wurstgelee : also we have a discount here..-.
[2016-11-24 14:59:38] anonymous789 : you think there are issues with ETH, well why don't you buy some ETH on coinbase or wherever, send them to your exchange of choice, and do the same thing with bitcoin and see which currency arrives first? :D
[2016-11-24 15:00:15] shiroe : eth is not currency, not accepted on major atms, stores, etc.
[2016-11-24 15:00:16] wurstgelee : anonymous789: that doesnt make sense and is pointless
[2016-11-24 15:00:28] laisee : BTC is not for seding all over the place, it;s digital gold.
[2016-11-24 15:00:35] wurstgelee : laisee: +1
[2016-11-24 15:00:38] laisee : ^seding^sending
[2016-11-24 15:00:40] wurstgelee : LN will be for sending all over the place...
[2016-11-24 15:00:46] anonymous789 : shiroe: you're talking like someone who knows nothing about crypto. This is exact same argument i get from folks around me that say "where can i buy anything with bitcoin"
[2016-11-24 15:01:22] wurstgelee : actually bitcoin can buy things eth cant
[2016-11-24 15:01:22] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-24 15:01:31] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: PoS brings 3 second block times etc, ethereum is superior in every way
[2016-11-24 15:01:32] wurstgelee : and fiat cant as well
[2016-11-24 15:01:49] anonymous789 : atm it can. Adoption is something that happens when something becomes more mainstream
[2016-11-24 15:01:53] shiroe : eth = potential bitcoin = proven.
[2016-11-24 15:01:54] wurstgelee : anonymous789: at what expense? what will blocksizes be?
[2016-11-24 15:01:55] anonymous789 : which is why i'm glad ethereum isn't mainstream yert
[2016-11-24 15:01:56] anonymous789 : yet*
[2016-11-24 15:02:03] shiroe : seems someone will get rekt on eth. lmfao
[2016-11-24 15:02:10] wurstgelee : 3 secs blocks have to cause massive bloat...
[2016-11-24 15:02:21] laisee : does no-one care about ZEC?
[2016-11-24 15:02:26] wurstgelee : laisee: i do
[2016-11-24 15:02:36] anonymous789 : shiroe: i'm invested in ETH, i don't margin trade it, and ETH is not going to zero lmao so i don't expect to get REKT anytime soon..
[2016-11-24 15:02:42] wurstgelee : i am happily siting in my middle-class car sized long ;)
[2016-11-24 15:02:44] laisee : wurstgelee: I know u care.
[2016-11-24 15:02:44] wurstgelee : *sitting
[2016-11-24 15:03:11] anonymous789 : wow, it's true what they say about the bitcoin community, pure bitcoin maximalists lol
[2016-11-24 15:03:35] laisee : anonymous789: what does that mean?
[2016-11-24 15:03:35] shiroe : i am investor as well, bought it at 1btc = 2k eth, sold around 17usd ea. eth will stagnate till next year like bitcoin stagnates for 2 years. 4-5usd floor.
[2016-11-24 15:03:36] anonymous789 : i won't even bother continuing my argument, there is just so much ignorance around bitcoin maximalists regarding ETH it's not even worth the time
[2016-11-24 15:03:57] anonymous789 : shiroe: what's your point?
[2016-11-24 15:04:25] shiroe : people care about profit, not tech.
[2016-11-24 15:04:30] laisee : ETH is cool, ETC is cooler. ZEC is coolest
[2016-11-24 15:04:38] anonymous789 : shiroe: i care about tech, i'm a software developer too.. lol
[2016-11-24 15:05:16] laisee : anonymous789: what does ETH have in Comp Sci terms that is so cool?
[2016-11-24 15:05:31] anonymous789 : turing completeness
[2016-11-24 15:05:42] laisee : ,,,, yawn. a very bad idea
[2016-11-24 15:05:51] anonymous789 : of course a bitcoin maximalist would say that
[2016-11-24 15:06:11] anonymous789 : for things like ETH please DYOR
[2016-11-24 15:06:11] anonymous789 : guys i'm done, you asked me my opinion i've given it, no more arugment regarding this
[2016-11-24 15:06:24] laisee : i'm a ZEC maximalist
[2016-11-24 15:06:39] anonymous789 : i'm a troll box maximalist, that's the beauty of being anyone online
[2016-11-24 15:06:42] shiroe : sadly for eth, too many forks, tech is unstable, so no more profit to be made.
[2016-11-24 15:06:44] arbitrage001 : zec to 5 btc !
[2016-11-24 15:07:10] laisee : arbitrage001: once BTC falls 98%
[2016-11-24 15:07:19] anonymous789 : shiroe: sadly for you, not for eth investors, eth is only just about 2 years old if that lol
[2016-11-24 15:08:05] laisee : ETH is cool place for experimentation ... thats all.
[2016-11-24 15:08:13] shiroe : eth idea is good, young and will fail for the next 2 years to come.
[2016-11-24 15:08:26] habibi : laisee: xx gigabytes of heloworld :D
[2016-11-24 15:08:27] laisee : oh, and shorting on Exchange
[2016-11-24 15:08:31] shiroe : just like every startup out there, if it survives 5 years. lol
[2016-11-24 15:09:18] shiroe : just milk it like a cow. haha
[2016-11-24 15:09:24] wurstgelee : anonymous789: i am no bitcoin maximalist. i just cant tolerate fucking with ldgers, thats all
[2016-11-24 15:09:24] anonymous789 : okay whatever, i love the ignorance, i'll just keep loading up on ETH
[2016-11-24 15:09:32] wurstgelee : *ledgers
[2016-11-24 15:09:39] laisee : habibi: ello' world
[2016-11-24 15:09:40] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: kk
[2016-11-24 15:09:56] anonymous789 : 300k buy wall?
[2016-11-24 15:09:57] shiroe : why load up when it is clearly on downfall @_@
[2016-11-24 15:10:09] anonymous789 : shiroe: smart investors buy low, sell high lol
[2016-11-24 15:10:17] anonymous789 : jesus christ i wonder the people in here sometimes
[2016-11-24 15:10:33] laisee : anonymous789: u seem stressed
[2016-11-24 15:10:45] laisee : is it the ETH losses?
[2016-11-24 15:10:48] anonymous789 : laisee: troll box just living up to its name lol
[2016-11-24 15:10:48] wurstgelee : smart investors buy on the way up, not on the way down tho ;)
[2016-11-24 15:10:50] shiroe : i see, investor. lmfao
[2016-11-24 15:11:05] shiroe : smart investor = profiteer.lol
[2016-11-24 15:11:17] shiroe : hahaha
[2016-11-24 15:11:38] wurstgelee : also investors. that word always makes me smile in the context of crypto :(
[2016-11-24 15:11:39] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-24 15:11:49] laisee : to paraphrase ny old professor ... cyrpto-currencies are to be used and not beleived
[2016-11-24 15:11:56] Mangalica : you guys heard about the ETH clusterfuck, right?
[2016-11-24 15:11:58] arbitrage001 : we are all playing the greater fools games
[2016-11-24 15:12:08] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: and i love it
[2016-11-24 15:12:14] shiroe : investors are people that doesnt get their money back. dont want that label.
[2016-11-24 15:12:27] laisee : i am greatestfule, bar none
[2016-11-24 15:12:31] chaunceylee : e
[2016-11-24 15:13:13] chaunceylee : Limit 000000
[2016-11-24 15:13:36] wurstgelee : well..its not an eth network attack
[2016-11-24 15:13:38] wurstgelee : https://twitter.com/ethcoreproject/status/801804556539666432
[2016-11-24 15:13:42] wurstgelee : they simply fucked up
[2016-11-24 15:14:10] anonymous789 : i love the bad news
[2016-11-24 15:14:19] anonymous789 : eth is not cheap enough yet
[2016-11-24 15:14:32] wurstgelee : geth and parity running on different chains
[2016-11-24 15:14:33] wurstgelee : lol :)
[2016-11-24 15:14:51] anonymous789 : billions of bitcoins being produced in 2009 lululululul
[2016-11-24 15:14:55] anonymous789 : srsly though
[2016-11-24 15:14:57] anonymous789 : lol
[2016-11-24 15:15:03] anonymous789 : programmable money ftw
[2016-11-24 15:15:27] NL007 : ETH call home
[2016-11-24 15:15:29] wurstgelee : u sxeem to feel cornered. thats not necessary, u shouldnt take eth fuckups personally tbh
[2016-11-24 15:15:55] anonymous789 : nah, ignorance annoys me lol
[2016-11-24 15:16:13] laisee : "emotionally invested" ... bad trading
[2016-11-24 15:16:24] wurstgelee : i dont see whats ignorant in saying that tinkered ledgers are a no-go for me
[2016-11-24 15:16:32] tomato : ？
[2016-11-24 15:16:49] laisee : ETH got "fixed" by rewriting the ledger
[2016-11-24 15:17:05] wurstgelee : laisee: *by abandoning the old ledger and creating a new one ;)
[2016-11-24 15:17:12] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: it's completely ignorant, immutability is a myth on all blockchain technologies
[2016-11-24 15:17:28] wurstgelee : elaborate please
[2016-11-24 15:17:34] wurstgelee : why is it a myth?
[2016-11-24 15:17:36] anonymous789 : wow seriously you want me to elaborate?
[2016-11-24 15:17:39] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-24 15:17:41] laisee : immutability is probabilistic, not absolute ...
[2016-11-24 15:17:57] wurstgelee : laisee: yes
[2016-11-24 15:18:00] Milo : trading competition. sweet.
[2016-11-24 15:18:02] anonymous789 : just google what andreas antonopolous has said about immutability jesus christ people need to do their homework
[2016-11-24 15:18:25] lopol : every upgrade to techology is breaking "immutability"
[2016-11-24 15:18:31] lopol : only fools think that way
[2016-11-24 15:19:10] wurstgelee : lopol: yes. and thats why i said immutability is not the same as an untouched ledger
[2016-11-24 15:19:20] laisee : people lost money becos ETH developers rewrote the ledger. who got robbe, really?
[2016-11-24 15:19:24] wurstgelee : anonymous789 said its the same ;)
[2016-11-24 15:20:07] anonymous789 : oh you're talking about the dao fork lol
[2016-11-24 15:20:10] wurstgelee : i dgaf about immutability but i DO give 2 fucks about ledger integrity
[2016-11-24 15:20:28] wurstgelee : anonymous789: yes. the financial bailout fork
[2016-11-24 15:20:34] anonymous789 : lololol
[2016-11-24 15:20:36] laisee : and human integrity, 2
[2016-11-24 15:20:46] anonymous789 : you know the majority of the eth community agreed with that fork
[2016-11-24 15:20:54] wurstgelee : yes. due to financial interests
[2016-11-24 15:20:59] anonymous789 : no
[2016-11-24 15:21:00] wurstgelee : its still a financial bailout
[2016-11-24 15:21:08] anonymous789 : there goes your ignorance
[2016-11-24 15:21:13] wurstgelee : the only reason for that fork was to fix balances
[2016-11-24 15:21:17] laisee : majority of finance community agreed with 2008 bailout, too
[2016-11-24 15:21:27] anonymous789 : ETH plans to move to PoS, you can't hve a hacker control 3mill+ ETH when that system transitions
[2016-11-24 15:21:32] anonymous789 : it's irresponsible
[2016-11-24 15:21:38] huangyong : 。。。
[2016-11-24 15:21:39] wurstgelee : anonymous789: yes.
[2016-11-24 15:21:57] wurstgelee : that doesnt change a thing tho
[2016-11-24 15:21:59] laisee : ur arguing from neccessiry, not morals or principals
[2016-11-24 15:22:06] wurstgelee : laisee +1
[2016-11-24 15:22:16] anonymous789 : the dao fork was completely necessary
[2016-11-24 15:22:23] laisee : the hacker did what was possible under DAO rules, no?
[2016-11-24 15:22:28] wurstgelee : from a financial point of view, not from a technical
[2016-11-24 15:22:31] anonymous789 : doesn't matter
[2016-11-24 15:22:39] wurstgelee : what happened to the code is law?
[2016-11-24 15:22:45] anonymous789 : that's immutability
[2016-11-24 15:22:46] wurstgelee : why did it die?
[2016-11-24 15:22:47] anonymous789 : which is a myth
[2016-11-24 15:22:52] laisee : or trust in math?
[2016-11-24 15:23:05] anonymous789 : was code law when blocks were producing billions of bitcoins in 2009?
[2016-11-24 15:23:10] anonymous789 : i think it was
[2016-11-24 15:23:13] anonymous789 : but there was a fork
[2016-11-24 15:23:20] habibi : anonymous789: back then bitcoin was nothing more than geek toy
[2016-11-24 15:23:26] wurstgelee : oh, it was great as long as eth used that phrase but it is a myth now that eth forked. did i get that right? ;)
[2016-11-24 15:23:50] anonymous789 : like eth is right now lol. eth is in experimentation mode, hasn't even reached serenity yet and it has nearly 1 billion dollar market cap
[2016-11-24 15:24:04] habibi : anonymous789: and there is great diffrence between bug in code of smart contract and core of the project itself
[2016-11-24 15:24:17] meh : btc maximalism ftw x)
[2016-11-24 15:24:34] anonymous789 : yeah these guys don't like to admit it but they are clear maximalists lol
[2016-11-24 15:24:34] wurstgelee : eth forked to fix a smart contract gone bad.... it doesnt get more financial bailout than this
[2016-11-24 15:24:44] laisee : ETH is no more ethical than crappy finance industry, sadly.
[2016-11-24 15:24:54] wurstgelee : anonymous789: nope, i am a ledger fundamentalist
[2016-11-24 15:24:57] anonymous789 : no
[2016-11-24 15:25:01] anonymous789 : you're ignorant lol
[2016-11-24 15:25:06] anonymous789 : clearly
[2016-11-24 15:25:27] wurstgelee : because i have principles after which i cant take a tinkered ledger seriously?
[2016-11-24 15:25:31] anonymous789 : admit you're a btc maximalist
[2016-11-24 15:25:36] wurstgelee : not at all
[2016-11-24 15:25:40] anonymous789 : why?
[2016-11-24 15:25:42] wurstgelee : i love shitcoins
[2016-11-24 15:25:43] habibi : anonymous789: if u want to have similar situation is hacked mtgox/finex whatever, if there would be hardfork to do a rollback/ban coins from blockchain/whatever then u would call both solutions the same
[2016-11-24 15:25:44] anonymous789 : you CLEARLY are
[2016-11-24 15:25:44] laisee : what does that mean, again?
[2016-11-24 15:25:50] wurstgelee : i have been trading altcoins only until last year
[2016-11-24 15:26:13] wurstgelee : anonymous789: i am the dev of an altcoin.
[2016-11-24 15:26:18] wurstgelee : 8)
[2016-11-24 15:26:18] habibi : anonymous789: simply there is reason why we trade everything here in btc, nor eth
[2016-11-24 15:26:26] shiroe : eth boom and bust, marketcap should be 00m.
[2016-11-24 15:26:26] anonymous789 : i am the president of the united states
[2016-11-24 15:26:35] wurstgelee : anonymous789: you are lying. i am not
[2016-11-24 15:26:38] anonymous789 : anyone can be what they want in a troll box
[2016-11-24 15:26:39] shiroe : 00 haha
[2016-11-24 15:26:44] anonymous789 : :D
[2016-11-24 15:26:50] anonymous789 : i am anonymous
[2016-11-24 15:26:55] anonymous789 : we are legion
[2016-11-24 15:27:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 300 @ 0.012400
[2016-11-24 15:27:04] anonymous789 : expect us
[2016-11-24 15:27:31] laisee : ETH has no cred after DAO fork and all following forks. the tech is not stable or useful to the world, sad to say
[2016-11-24 15:27:32] wurstgelee : anonymous789: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=820103
[2016-11-24 15:27:35] wurstgelee : your turn ;)
[2016-11-24 15:27:49] anonymous789 : i don't view links to bitcointalk, possibility of CSRF attack
[2016-11-24 15:28:05] chaunceylee : finally stop
[2016-11-24 15:28:06] wurstgelee : anonymous789: use private browser session
[2016-11-24 15:28:09] wurstgelee : problem solved
[2016-11-24 15:28:12] anonymous789 : not doing it
[2016-11-24 15:28:20] Rado : what are the ETH news?
[2016-11-24 15:28:22] chaunceylee : I loss a lot of money
[2016-11-24 15:28:24] anonymous789 : bitcointalk forum is fail for security
[2016-11-24 15:28:55] shiroe : 5150 support.. will it break?
[2016-11-24 15:29:48] Rado : shiroe: don't try to anticipate
[2016-11-24 15:29:53] Rado : if it breaks trade it
[2016-11-24 15:30:07] mjones : trade before it breaks for max profit
[2016-11-24 15:30:22] anonymous789 : mjones: or max loss...
[2016-11-24 15:30:32] anonymous789 : never trade against the trend
[2016-11-24 15:30:35] anonymous789 : determine the trend first
[2016-11-24 15:30:37] shiroe : i dont trade on breaks. haha
[2016-11-24 15:30:52] mjones : price has been falling for 8 days now
[2016-11-24 15:31:33] anonymous789 : mjones: if you're talking about that level of timescale then you may as well go long and wait until it moons because that's inevitable after a technical correction
[2016-11-24 15:31:55] anonymous789 : unless it breaks support at 680 which i doubt
[2016-11-24 15:32:00] anonymous789 : probably would need some bad news
[2016-11-24 15:32:02] shiroe : i am waiting for rekts to catch some poor souls on bottom.
[2016-11-24 15:32:27] wurstgelee : anonymous789: http://imgur.com/a/TvZRz
[2016-11-24 15:32:27] rapidtrades : guys mooning is 'inevitable'
[2016-11-24 15:32:35] wurstgelee : found an old screenshot ;)
[2016-11-24 15:32:37] rapidtrades : you heard it here first
[2016-11-24 15:32:48] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: who you trying to convince? lol
[2016-11-24 15:33:20] laisee : i mooned ast night, it can't be stopped
[2016-11-24 15:33:29] anonymous789 : the beauty of the troll box is that i could believe you if i wanted or i couldn't lol
[2016-11-24 15:33:49] wurstgelee : thats not a unique trollbox feature tho
[2016-11-24 15:34:00] Dtrade16 : Morning
[2016-11-24 15:34:06] wurstgelee : also you cant decide if u believe or not - you just do or not.
[2016-11-24 15:34:11] laisee : ... just another ETH pumping bot. nothing to see, nove on folks ...
[2016-11-24 15:34:12] wurstgelee : unless you are mentally challenged ;)
[2016-11-24 15:34:24] Dtrade16 : Whens next btc pump? I'm holding a heavy bag over here lol
[2016-11-24 15:34:38] Rado : Dtrade16: when you sell
[2016-11-24 15:34:58] Dtrade16 : ^^ that sounds about right
[2016-11-24 15:35:15] anonymous789 : i'm still anticipating downside for btc
[2016-11-24 15:35:46] laisee : bad earnings report?
[2016-11-24 15:35:50] Dtrade16 : Can USD crash already