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[2016-11-23 22:10:19] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: yes. also hard to learn...for me.
[2016-11-23 22:10:22] Boontjie : like in really really hard
[2016-11-23 22:10:36] arbitrage001 : easy here
[2016-11-23 22:10:43] arbitrage001 : just let your position get rekt
[2016-11-23 22:10:46] CaptainDean : Nerve: someone posted me a few link when I started here, I will try to find them. Like a top 25 rules to follow and a book about someone who started trading in 1920-1930 if I remember correctly
[2016-11-23 22:10:47] Tetsuo : took me 2 years to learn it
[2016-11-23 22:10:48] Boontjie : lol
[2016-11-23 22:10:55] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: thats why i use 50x
[2016-11-23 22:11:02] wurstgelee : it cuts losses if i fail ;)
[2016-11-23 22:11:11] wurstgelee : safety switch
[2016-11-23 22:11:18] Boontjie : Tetsuo: ja, but sometimes you need to wait for your position, its not always easy to recognize wrong till you stare -10% in the face
[2016-11-23 22:11:18] Tetsuo : not on cross then i guess
[2016-11-23 22:11:23] wurstgelee : never
[2016-11-23 22:11:30] Nerve : wurstgelee: you know, i just loking for some quick tips...i @CaptainDean thats what i need
[2016-11-23 22:11:39] Tetsuo : short BTC long XMR
[2016-11-23 22:11:44] Tetsuo : go for it
[2016-11-23 22:11:46] NL007 : zec rekking coming soon
[2016-11-23 22:11:53] NL007 : XD
[2016-11-23 22:11:56] arbitrage001 : Nerve: having the right mindset takes time
[2016-11-23 22:11:58] Boontjie : Tetsuo: XMR is a long term short
[2016-11-23 22:12:05] Nerve : cause now i'm going like a blind mouse
[2016-11-23 22:12:20] wurstgelee : NL007: tfw i makes a new high seconds later
[2016-11-23 22:12:21] arbitrage001 : listening to traders here will probably speed things up
[2016-11-23 22:12:25] wurstgelee : *it
[2016-11-23 22:12:26] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-23 22:12:32] Tetsuo : Boontjie: XMR was a mid-term short above 0.0.2
[2016-11-23 22:12:44] NL007 : arbitrage001: lol
[2016-11-23 22:13:10] wurstgelee : .118
[2016-11-23 22:13:10] kingkrung : wurstgelee, happy now with zec?
[2016-11-23 22:13:11] Boontjie : Tetsuo: The anony-algo doesnt work correctly
[2016-11-23 22:13:13] wurstgelee : impressive
[2016-11-23 22:13:14] arbitrage001 : someone bought 100 @ 0.06
[2016-11-23 22:13:24] Boontjie : you need enough throughput with transactions of similar size to your own
[2016-11-23 22:13:31] Tetsuo : Boontjie: i don´t care about fundamentals
[2016-11-23 22:13:33] Boontjie : The network is not that large
[2016-11-23 22:13:37] Boontjie : lol ok
[2016-11-23 22:14:10] arbitrage001 : new high !
[2016-11-23 22:14:13] kingkrung : I closed my shorts at 0.48 and made 10 BTC profit. me happy..
[2016-11-23 22:14:15] wurstgelee : ofc
[2016-11-23 22:14:22] rms : ok now FOMO is really on on poloniex
[2016-11-23 22:14:22] Tetsuo : lol
[2016-11-23 22:14:57] kingkrung : fomo, but I am shure in a year zec will be less den 0.1 btc
[2016-11-23 22:15:30] wurstgelee : ofc fomo
[2016-11-23 22:15:46] RocketScience : 141 zec buy
[2016-11-23 22:15:53] arbitrage001 : kingkrung: all trades are short to middle term
[2016-11-23 22:16:06] arbitrage001 : i am also sure btc will worth close to 0 50 years from now
[2016-11-23 22:16:17] wurstgelee : ha
[2016-11-23 22:16:22] wurstgelee : or 1 bn
[2016-11-23 22:16:26] Tetsuo : talin about the price of an alt >1year is just foolish
[2016-11-23 22:16:45] wurstgelee : i am not interested in price of zec after dec 30 tbh
[2016-11-23 22:16:47] wurstgelee : right now
[2016-11-23 22:17:41] arbitrage001 : that was pretty bad short move
[2016-11-23 22:17:54] arbitrage001 : the way it is executed
[2016-11-23 22:18:01] Tetsuo : BTC-E highest western exchange right now
[2016-11-23 22:18:51] wurstgelee : btc-e?
[2016-11-23 22:18:55] wurstgelee : omg, btc is broken then
[2016-11-23 22:18:59] Tetsuo : so i guess all the fools have bought in by now
[2016-11-23 22:19:25] wurstgelee : id like to have a good btc dump with my zec pump tbh
[2016-11-23 22:19:27] wurstgelee : 8)
[2016-11-23 22:19:38] Tetsuo : in the past if BTC-E was above all others we either pumped or dumped hard
[2016-11-23 22:21:41] mjones : some dirty money found its way to BTC-e
[2016-11-23 22:22:29] mjones : their volume has always been suspiciously high but not high enough to complain about
[2016-11-23 22:22:47] lockhedge : USD/RUB might be the cause for the BTC-E premium (up >1%)
[2016-11-23 22:23:18] mjones : btc-e double topped off the 2016 ath
[2016-11-23 22:23:20] zcashequalslambo : i think btc price is stalling becoz of those unconfirmed trades
[2016-11-23 22:23:31] sleger : trades ?
[2016-11-23 22:23:34] zcashequalslambo : it will go up quickly when the problem is resolved
[2016-11-23 22:23:38] zcashequalslambo : i mean transactions
[2016-11-23 22:23:53] zcashequalslambo : miners are not confirming them quick enough
[2016-11-23 22:23:54] mjones : zec
[2016-11-23 22:24:15] mjones : what a perfect name for my first born
[2016-11-23 22:24:22] sleger : seems like those miners are having some trouble finding blocks more often than every 10 min right @zcashequalslambo
[2016-11-23 22:24:42] Tetsuo : plz stop postin facts, thx
[2016-11-23 22:25:04] trollboxer : Why aren't there any rekt messages?
[2016-11-23 22:25:12] sleger : he's sleeping
[2016-11-23 22:25:23] lopol : such a great entry for short at 0,064
[2016-11-23 22:25:28] Tetsuo : he probably got rekt and is depressed
[2016-11-23 22:25:41] zcashequalslambo : 0.12 is good place to short from zec
[2016-11-23 22:25:42] Tetsuo : lopol: u will join his team soon
[2016-11-23 22:25:48] CaptainDean : not finding a block for 30 mins is call variance
[2016-11-23 22:26:16] CaptainDean : for BTC
[2016-11-23 22:26:16] trollboxer : poisson distribution baby
[2016-11-23 22:27:22] lopol : Tetsuo: this pump is over soon
[2016-11-23 22:28:20] wurstgelee : lopol: u said that @ .1
[2016-11-23 22:28:32] wurstgelee : in fact u said its over
[2016-11-23 22:30:09] arbitrage001 : someone really have conviction
[2016-11-23 22:30:15] CaptainDean : my guess is it is not yet over
[2016-11-23 22:30:16] CaptainDean : :P
[2016-11-23 22:30:17] lopol : i said 0.15 is top
[2016-11-23 22:30:18] arbitrage001 : the way they execute short
[2016-11-23 22:30:30] trollboxer : what do you mean execute short?
[2016-11-23 22:30:40] arbitrage001 : check the recent trade
[2016-11-23 22:30:53] Tetsuo : hate shortin
[2016-11-23 22:31:06] Tetsuo : hopin that others will follow
[2016-11-23 22:31:11] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-23 22:31:35] mjones : 5,009 open zec contracts.
[2016-11-23 22:31:39] wurstgelee : id like a good hard drop on not too much volume for some extra contracts tbh
[2016-11-23 22:32:04] trollboxer : if peopl ewere selling their shorts, it would show open interesting going down, no?
[2016-11-23 22:32:05] trollboxer : not up?
[2016-11-23 22:32:07] arbitrage001 : if someone want to short, they should execute the trade in a smarter way
[2016-11-23 22:32:19] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: yep, that was just dumb
[2016-11-23 22:32:32] wurstgelee : looked like rage dumping
[2016-11-23 22:32:33] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-23 22:32:48] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: yes, look like 5 years old kid getting angry
[2016-11-23 22:32:59] arbitrage001 : which make me feel more secure going long
[2016-11-23 22:32:59] trollboxer : open interest goes down if poeple close their positions right?
[2016-11-23 22:33:14] Tetsuo : hate shorters and rage dumpers prepare to meet your master soon: R E K T
[2016-11-23 22:33:25] wurstgelee : i pulled my order @ 0.02
[2016-11-23 22:33:31] wurstgelee : it will never get filled :|
[2016-11-23 22:33:48] zcashequalslambo : looking at the xmr chart, not taking btc impenging pump into account even i think its going to drop to 0.9 soon
[2016-11-23 22:33:55] wurstgelee : trollboxer: yes. if they close against another close
[2016-11-23 22:34:03] wurstgelee : otherwise it stays the same ofc
[2016-11-23 22:38:08] Tetsuo : so i finally hired a cleaning lady, which will start next week. Do i have to wear pants when she´s here? ?
[2016-11-23 22:38:50] Tetsuo : i wouldn´t like that tbh
[2016-11-23 22:39:24] BitMEX_Sam : Tetsuo: Depends on how much you're paying her
[2016-11-23 22:39:28] trollboxer : so what's going on with zec right now?
[2016-11-23 22:39:42] Tetsuo : BitMEX_Sam: : - )
[2016-11-23 22:42:41] sleger : Tetsuo: Strauss Kahn tried that before you did, didnt end well
[2016-11-23 22:42:47] Tetsuo : i hope that it isn´t rapids mom, last time i met her it was awful although different occupation
[2016-11-23 22:43:04] rms : my guess is that today's zcash pump is over but we are in a pumping cycle
[2016-11-23 22:43:22] trollboxer : whats a pumping cycle/
[2016-11-23 22:43:56] Tetsuo : opposite of a dumping cycle?
[2016-11-23 22:44:12] rms : whales regularly buying
[2016-11-23 22:44:14] trollboxer : i mean how often do they happen and how big do they get?
[2016-11-23 22:44:21] wurstgelee : trollboxer: google pork cycle to get an idea
[2016-11-23 22:44:24] Tetsuo : 2 weeks 686%
[2016-11-23 22:44:41] trollboxer : thats huge
[2016-11-23 22:46:01] wurstgelee : i am not even sure its over for today
[2016-11-23 22:46:06] Tetsuo : trollboxer: they mostly appear in leap-years
[2016-11-23 22:46:18] rapidtrades : guys wtf is going on
[2016-11-23 22:46:22] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: always an optimist
[2016-11-23 22:46:26] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: zec pump is on
[2016-11-23 22:46:28] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: IT LOOKS PRETTY BAD
[2016-11-23 22:46:54] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: no. i dont underestimate the potential of polo
[2016-11-23 22:46:58] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: nice
[2016-11-23 22:47:11] rapidtrades : i see 50% discount still there tho
[2016-11-23 22:47:15] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-23 22:47:18] wurstgelee : also nice
[2016-11-23 22:47:29] wurstgelee : if i were u, i would consider breaking my rule ;)
[2016-11-23 22:47:39] Tetsuo : ADD!!!!
[2016-11-23 22:47:40] arbitrage001 : already loaded, wont buy more unless it drop to 0.01
[2016-11-23 22:47:42] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-23 22:47:49] wurstgelee : what Tesuo screamed
[2016-11-23 22:48:13] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: rapidtrades is long from 3 btc. 1 contract
[2016-11-23 22:48:23] wurstgelee : and refuses to add because "he doesnt add to losers"
[2016-11-23 22:48:26] wurstgelee : his quote
[2016-11-23 22:48:38] imabeast : lol
[2016-11-23 22:48:41] Tetsuo : we´re having fun about this fact for quite some time now
[2016-11-23 22:48:54] wurstgelee : thats just stupiid
[2016-11-23 22:49:04] wurstgelee : 10 contracts @ .035 and he would be well in the green now
[2016-11-23 22:49:14] Tetsuo : rapid loves to hate , that´s why he doesn´t add
[2016-11-23 22:49:34] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: no it needs to be 100
[2016-11-23 22:50:17] wurstgelee : no. but it seems like u need to rant and suffer
[2016-11-23 22:52:49] rapidtrades : 0.11 cmon posers move this coin
[2016-11-23 22:54:32] imabeast : .12 was top itll cool down for a bit
[2016-11-23 22:55:27] trollboxer : look more fake sell pressure in zec
[2016-11-23 22:55:37] trollboxer : didn't work last time lol
[2016-11-23 22:56:37] QA : Hi, Is bitmex only do Futures or i can do Spot such as change BTC to LTC ?
[2016-11-23 22:56:49] wurstgelee : no spot
[2016-11-23 22:56:50] Tetsuo : Spot is only available for ZEC
[2016-11-23 22:56:56] wurstgelee : haha
[2016-11-23 22:57:27] QA : Tetsuo: but i do not get text said withdraw to ZEC
[2016-11-23 22:57:37] wurstgelee : yeah, bitmex_sam will deliver the zec you bought here to your home, personally. in his pink tutu.
[2016-11-23 22:58:04] Tetsuo : have u signed for premium VIP status? Probably not as your nick is not green
[2016-11-23 22:58:37] QA : i just new here, come on ~
[2016-11-23 22:58:46] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-23 22:58:49] wurstgelee : no spot here
[2016-11-23 22:58:55] wurstgelee : all contracts executed and settled in btc
[2016-11-23 22:59:14] QA : wurstgelee: okay, thanks for your tutu in pink :P
[2016-11-23 22:59:27] wurstgelee : np, you're welcome
[2016-11-23 22:59:34] wurstgelee : its sam's tutu tho
[2016-11-23 23:00:07] QA : never mind, i prefer yours
[2016-11-23 23:00:39] QA : so, bitmex is a totally Futures Market ?
[2016-11-23 23:01:10] CaptainDean : QA: i prefer yours => LOOOL
[2016-11-23 23:02:02] QA : maybe i should change nick name to CaptainJack
[2016-11-23 23:02:46] Tetsuo : JackShit?
[2016-11-23 23:03:02] wurstgelee : https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/272495768902959104
[2016-11-23 23:03:07] wurstgelee : people rewteeting that now
[2016-11-23 23:03:09] wurstgelee : i laughed
[2016-11-23 23:03:16] QA : fine, fine, fine
[2016-11-23 23:03:32] wurstgelee : i also rt'ed tbh
[2016-11-23 23:03:51] QA : just told me bitmex is a totally Futures Market ? please
[2016-11-23 23:03:52] Tetsuo : we´re going to have a lot of fun in the next 4 years i guess
[2016-11-23 23:04:07] QA : why, only 4 years
[2016-11-23 23:04:09] Tetsuo : QA: Have you seen the movie hedgehog day?
[2016-11-23 23:04:43] CaptainDean : QA: :P
[2016-11-23 23:04:55] QA : nop, i am not a English native speaker
[2016-11-23 23:04:57] Tetsuo : fuck it´s groundog day
[2016-11-23 23:04:58] QA : Tetsuo:
[2016-11-23 23:05:22] Tetsuo : only futures
[2016-11-23 23:06:19] QA : Tetsuo: cant believe it, but seems it is.
[2016-11-23 23:07:15] lopol : anyone now shorting zec?
[2016-11-23 23:07:35] Tetsuo : lopol: only fools
[2016-11-23 23:07:48] QA : lopol: i am, i need change my btc to others
[2016-11-23 23:07:54] Tetsuo : see
[2016-11-23 23:08:31] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: see? not sure if over 8)
[2016-11-23 23:08:38] QA : never mind i am fool or not, no fools no smarts
[2016-11-23 23:08:46] lopol : ZEC supply will be 5x in month compared today
[2016-11-23 23:08:53] lopol : you think price wont decrease?
[2016-11-23 23:09:12] trollboxer : nah, there's 20 million extra dollars to make that up
[2016-11-23 23:09:14] wurstgelee : lopol: rabblrabblrabll. everyone know that in here. we have discussed this extensively. over and over again ;)
[2016-11-23 23:09:16] trollboxer : to keep it even
[2016-11-23 23:09:52] wurstgelee : some of us could tell u the exact supply at any given minute from then to dec 30 back at launch day
[2016-11-23 23:09:54] lopol : So it should be obvoius for everyone that price will be below 0,03 in dec 32
[2016-11-23 23:09:56] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-23 23:10:14] trollboxer : just need 20 million new money to keep it at this level, actually 6.5M now, so need 32.5M
[2016-11-23 23:10:16] wurstgelee : lopol: if that was the case, we would trade down there
[2016-11-23 23:10:27] wurstgelee : and since ithis is not happening, the market disagrees with you
[2016-11-23 23:10:29] wurstgelee : simple as that
[2016-11-23 23:10:50] wurstgelee : no arguing will change that
[2016-11-23 23:10:55] wurstgelee : never had and never will ;)
[2016-11-23 23:11:13] crmun : 6h double top eve & adam on btc? how you think?
[2016-11-23 23:11:34] QA : thats all, that you guys, veeeery much
[2016-11-23 23:11:39] wurstgelee : i didnt even look @ btc price in the last hours tbh
[2016-11-23 23:11:46] wurstgelee : busy with zec atm
[2016-11-23 23:11:55] QA : i gotta to leave, i need a Spots market
[2016-11-23 23:11:59] wurstgelee : polo
[2016-11-23 23:12:04] wurstgelee : best by far
[2016-11-23 23:12:07] wurstgelee : volume wise
[2016-11-23 23:12:25] wurstgelee : theres no other choice for alts that makes sense
[2016-11-23 23:12:29] QA : thank you guys, veeeeeery much
[2016-11-23 23:12:36] wurstgelee : maybe bittrex if u like
[2016-11-23 23:12:39] QuantFocus : hey guys
[2016-11-23 23:12:57] trollboxer : there's no sales pressure in zec, 1 single ok sell at .057 then nothing till .064
[2016-11-23 23:13:05] QA : wurstgelee: yes, i use bittrex currently but not enough
[2016-11-23 23:13:38] wurstgelee : i dont use it atm. but i have some gambit parked there
[2016-11-23 23:13:49] Tetsuo : crmun: It looks pretty bad for BTC
[2016-11-23 23:13:50] wurstgelee : my one and only long term alt hold
[2016-11-23 23:15:10] QuantFocus : Tetsuo: i agree
[2016-11-23 23:15:37] wurstgelee : ok, i had a look too now, i do not disagree
[2016-11-23 23:16:00] wurstgelee : also i welcome that because the timing would be perfect for the zec pump
[2016-11-23 23:16:02] crmun : Tetsuo: lot of ppl expecting 680$ area
[2016-11-23 23:16:30] QuantFocus : that looks like support to me as well
[2016-11-23 23:16:38] wurstgelee : only problem is, the things that a most people expect often dont happen
[2016-11-23 23:16:43] wurstgelee : *-a
[2016-11-23 23:16:51] QuantFocus : wurstgelee: :thumbsup:
[2016-11-23 23:17:02] QuantFocus : stop rekting dreams though
[2016-11-23 23:17:06] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-11-23 23:17:06] wurstgelee : k
[2016-11-23 23:17:08] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-23 23:19:46] Tetsuo : I do agree that 680$ probably won´t hold for a long time
[2016-11-23 23:20:20] trollboxer : I can't find antyhign priced at $680?"
[2016-11-23 23:21:07] Tetsuo : trollboxer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu0C7nqhfzU
[2016-11-23 23:21:58] trollboxer : prefer v cylinders over straight
[2016-11-23 23:23:03] imabeast : zec coming back to earth
[2016-11-23 23:26:50] Bogdan : wanna win a 1 BTC as a random person
[2016-11-23 23:28:26] QA : anyone teach me why ZEC raise a lot ?
[2016-11-23 23:28:40] wurstgelee : imabeast: should stabilize ~ .1 if this pump has legs
[2016-11-23 23:29:01] wurstgelee : QA: because whales said its time
[2016-11-23 23:29:13] wurstgelee : basically
[2016-11-23 23:29:18] imabeast : wurstgelee: yea i need a re-entry lol
[2016-11-23 23:29:24] wurstgelee : imabeast: hehe
[2016-11-23 23:29:49] wurstgelee : if it doesnt even get to .1
[2016-11-23 23:29:53] wurstgelee : *does
[2016-11-23 23:30:09] QA : wurstgelee: sorry, whats the relationship between Whales to Zec ?
[2016-11-23 23:30:12] imabeast : we shall see :D
[2016-11-23 23:30:43] wurstgelee : QA: whales: big animal, zec: bait, you: whalefood
[2016-11-23 23:31:10] zanza : catch that ZEC top boys
[2016-11-23 23:31:36] anonymous789 : this btc rally is so half hearted
[2016-11-23 23:32:44] QA : wurstgelee: thank you so much, i suppose you meant the Slot Jackpot
[2016-11-23 23:33:02] wurstgelee : slot jackpot?
[2016-11-23 23:33:11] laisee : we're all krill or bots
[2016-11-23 23:33:27] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-23 23:33:35] wurstgelee : sleger is a baby whale maybe
[2016-11-23 23:33:49] QA : whales of cash slot jackpot
[2016-11-23 23:33:58] rapidtrades : guys don't fight
[2016-11-23 23:34:18] wurstgelee : QA: i have no clue what that is, but whales=deep pockets
[2016-11-23 23:34:24] wurstgelee : here
[2016-11-23 23:36:13] QA : wurstgelee: fine, thank you. thus i am not a native English speaker, sorry for my poor English
[2016-11-23 23:36:50] wurstgelee : neither am i. your english i very well understandable tho.
[2016-11-23 23:37:01] QuantFocus : QA: you're in good company
[2016-11-23 23:37:45] wurstgelee : a lot of non-native english ppl here
[2016-11-23 23:38:33] Xobllort : Hello Evryone
[2016-11-23 23:38:35] rapidtrades : i think I've discovered the gayest sport in the world
[2016-11-23 23:38:42] rapidtrades : even gayer then soccer
[2016-11-23 23:38:44] QA : wurstgelee: proverb is hard to understand for me
[2016-11-23 23:38:49] rapidtrades : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBaB1SI_Lk4
[2016-11-23 23:38:55] rapidtrades : ^look at that gay shit
[2016-11-23 23:39:10] QA : rapidtrades: i am watching...
[2016-11-23 23:39:49] trollboxer : that is not even remotely close to the gayest dude
[2016-11-23 23:40:17] rapidtrades : trollboxer: oh yeah? what would be the gayest then
[2016-11-23 23:40:30] Tetsuo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JKonI8Td_M
[2016-11-23 23:40:43] QA : rapidtrades: it is sport game... seems nothing about coins
[2016-11-23 23:41:35] trollboxer : this seems pretty bad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX9VBxtOOWg
[2016-11-23 23:41:37] QA : The Gayest Guy On Earth ... hahaha
[2016-11-23 23:41:44] rapidtrades : QA: watch closely at the frisbee
[2016-11-23 23:43:32] QA : rapidtrades: but closely to see what ? i do not understand this sport item
[2016-11-23 23:44:53] sleger : gayest is probably what you guys are doing : watching gay youtube videos (I assume, I refuse to click on those links)
[2016-11-23 23:45:33] QA : LOL
[2016-11-23 23:46:46] wurstgelee : QA: meet sleger, our warm-hearted but ruthless house whale
[2016-11-23 23:47:41] QA : wurstgelee: i am far away from you both
[2016-11-23 23:48:33] wurstgelee : i bought 1.something btc back in 2014
[2016-11-23 23:48:37] wurstgelee : most things start small
[2016-11-23 23:48:56] wurstgelee : and i am still small fish
[2016-11-23 23:49:05] sleger : i started with 100 in may 2013
[2016-11-23 23:49:20] wurstgelee : good base to start off :)
[2016-11-23 23:49:24] sleger : mar-may i think
[2016-11-23 23:49:28] Tetsuo : 250 in 2012 for tradin
[2016-11-23 23:49:43] Tetsuo : spent a few thousand BTC on drugs before that...
[2016-11-23 23:49:44] Tetsuo : FML
[2016-11-23 23:50:03] sleger : nice !
[2016-11-23 23:50:03] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: its amazing how many you get for 1 btc now.
[2016-11-23 23:50:05] wurstgelee : so i heard
[2016-11-23 23:50:12] Tetsuo : heard too
[2016-11-23 23:51:13] Tetsuo : i actually bought BTC for tradin becauz i thought the price will go up when Silkroad 1 announced the discount special for 420 sale in April 2013
[2016-11-23 23:51:39] Tetsuo : it worked out :-)
[2016-11-23 23:51:59] Tetsuo : see april 2013
[2016-11-23 23:52:23] Tetsuo : Drugs made me rich , hell yeah
[2016-11-23 23:52:46] Tetsuo : altough i wasn´t very good trader back then :-(
[2016-11-23 23:52:57] Nerve : i bought BTC first time in 2012...for silkroad offcourse
[2016-11-23 23:52:58] wurstgelee : i somehow managed to keep btc off my radar well after the ath
[2016-11-23 23:53:08] wurstgelee : no clue how that happened
[2016-11-23 23:54:35] Tetsuo : However i survived mtgox and btc24 without losing anything, altough i had most of my coins stored at them, always withdrew early enough
[2016-11-23 23:55:21] Tetsuo : well Gox was easy, warning signs were huge pretty early
[2016-11-23 23:56:27] wurstgelee : never lost coins that way, somehow. withdrew from cryptsy early.
[2016-11-23 23:56:28] Tetsuo : I remember that BTC24 offered to withdraw via cash, and they sent you thousands of € via mail in a shoebox
[2016-11-23 23:56:30] wurstgelee : never used gox
[2016-11-23 23:56:46] sleger : yep,i had 0.23$ when they closed withdrawal although i had a few hundreds btc 2 weeks before
[2016-11-23 23:57:12] sleger : (gox)
[2016-11-23 23:57:36] Tetsuo : sleger: i have 2$ or so left, did you also get that japanese postcard?
[2016-11-23 23:57:41] sleger : yep
[2016-11-23 23:57:55] wurstgelee : i lost 80k BAT coins to mintpal
[2016-11-23 23:57:57] sleger : and a few emails
[2016-11-23 23:57:59] wurstgelee : those were 1 sat each
[2016-11-23 23:58:31] Tetsuo : It often took 2 -3 weeks for deposits to arrive @ Gox
[2016-11-23 23:58:49] Tetsuo : BTC exchanges have matured a lot since then
[2016-11-23 23:58:52] sleger : however i had ~50k$ at finex during the hack, just in idle cash sitting there, not even on lending
[2016-11-23 23:59:18] wurstgelee : omg zec going down.
[2016-11-23 23:59:20] wurstgelee : quick
[2016-11-23 23:59:21] wurstgelee : dump
[2016-11-23 23:59:23] wurstgelee : everyone
[2016-11-23 23:59:49] wurstgelee : ha
[2016-11-23 23:59:56] wurstgelee : thank you unknown shorter
[2016-11-24 00:00:02] Nerve : @wurstgelee i'm in short from today afternoon....finaly is comming
[2016-11-24 00:00:37] Nerve : i hope to be a big one
[2016-11-24 00:00:45] Tetsuo : lol
[2016-11-24 00:00:49] Nerve : lol
[2016-11-24 00:00:54] laisee : big short?
[2016-11-24 00:00:59] Nerve : yeaahhhh
[2016-11-24 00:01:28] laisee : they can make a movie about you, with christian bale as you
[2016-11-24 00:01:32] wurstgelee : wait..u didnt short zec @ .05 ?
[2016-11-24 00:01:38] wurstgelee : just now?
[2016-11-24 00:03:37] Nerve : wurstgelee: i'm waiting for deposit confirmation...i had no founds available. i think i must contact the support
[2016-11-24 00:04:02] Nerve : it take too much
[2016-11-24 00:04:11] wurstgelee : u really shouldnt. short zec here.
[2016-11-24 00:04:14] wurstgelee : if u ask me
[2016-11-24 00:04:19] wurstgelee : Nerve: how many confirmations?
[2016-11-24 00:04:25] CaptainDean : Nerve: the BTC is has been attack, you might have a set a low fee for your transaction, it'll take time
[2016-11-24 00:04:34] CaptainDean : has been attacked*
[2016-11-24 00:04:45] CaptainDean : or whatever, you got it :
[2016-11-24 00:04:55] Nerve : no shit !
[2016-11-24 00:05:12] wurstgelee : Nerve: confirmations? #?
[2016-11-24 00:05:22] Nerve : 0
[2016-11-24 00:05:23] CaptainDean : Nerve: yeah, there is a lot of transaction in the stack
[2016-11-24 00:05:25] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-24 00:05:27] wurstgelee : k
[2016-11-24 00:05:58] wurstgelee : u should address the lords of bitcoin then
[2016-11-24 00:06:02] wurstgelee : not bitmex admins
[2016-11-24 00:07:01] CaptainDean : Nerve: if you have in a hurry, i suggest you sent more BTC with an higher fee, just sent the first back to your wallet once it's confirmed
[2016-11-24 00:07:11] CaptainDean : first transaction**
[2016-11-24 00:07:37] trollboxer : I don't think the 50% zec to spot is going to hold. I think the miners are going to dump all the extra coins they get from difficulty going down from slow start.
[2016-11-24 00:08:02] trollboxer : There never really was a 50% zec to spot anway, it used to be mutltiples higher
[2016-11-24 00:08:03] rms : so you think spot will go down to meet futures price?
[2016-11-24 00:08:17] trollboxer : its just supply and demand, too many new coins
[2016-11-24 00:08:19] wurstgelee : trollboxer: difficulty going down?
[2016-11-24 00:08:20] trollboxer : not enough new money
[2016-11-24 00:08:24] wurstgelee : difficulty is still going up
[2016-11-24 00:08:40] trollboxer : the slow start ends in a couple days, then the flood gates open
[2016-11-24 00:08:40] wurstgelee : thats why minig dosnt get more profitable despite rising reward
[2016-11-24 00:08:44] wurstgelee : *doesnt
[2016-11-24 00:08:58] trollboxer : https://forum.z.cash/t/zec-slow-start-info-for-miners/5785
[2016-11-24 00:08:59] wurstgelee : there are no flood gates
[2016-11-24 00:09:05] wurstgelee : its a constant supply
[2016-11-24 00:09:10] trollboxer : its not been 34 days since oct.28 yet
[2016-11-24 00:09:17] trollboxer : we've been coin starved this whole time
[2016-11-24 00:09:26] trollboxer : the flood gates will be opened, for real
[2016-11-24 00:09:46] wurstgelee : go on, short :)
[2016-11-24 00:10:12] wurstgelee : wait, i'll help you
[2016-11-24 00:10:15] trollboxer : I think you misunderstood the slow start wurstgelee
[2016-11-24 00:10:20] Nerve : CaptainDean: Bitmex seen the deposit in blockchain, but is waiting for one confirmation
[2016-11-24 00:10:29] wurstgelee : trollboxer: go on
[2016-11-24 00:10:29] trollboxer : i been mining from the first hour :)
[2016-11-24 00:10:34] wurstgelee : i placed a bid ;)
[2016-11-24 00:10:52] trollboxer : I'm scared, the price might still go up
[2016-11-24 00:11:06] wurstgelee : not might, it most likely will imo
[2016-11-24 00:11:15] CaptainDean : Nerve: exactly, lower fee transaction get lower priority, it might take a while to get it confirmed
[2016-11-24 00:11:20] Nerve : CaptainDean: is still uncormirmed
[2016-11-24 00:11:36] wurstgelee : Nerve: were blocks mined?
[2016-11-24 00:11:49] wurstgelee : yeah, one block
[2016-11-24 00:11:51] wurstgelee : 4mins ago
[2016-11-24 00:11:52] rapidtrades : Nerve: are u depositing again? after u got RekTed yday?
[2016-11-24 00:11:53] Tetsuo : 4m
[2016-11-24 00:11:56] wurstgelee : before that 29 mins ago
[2016-11-24 00:12:19] Nerve : rapidtrades: YES
[2016-11-24 00:12:43] Nerve : rapidtrades: but i'm not in a rush anymore...
[2016-11-24 00:12:45] Tetsuo : Nerve: and then u started shortin ZEC with it?
[2016-11-24 00:12:53] Tetsuo : do u hate life and money in general?
[2016-11-24 00:13:11] justinlooking : sup fuckers
[2016-11-24 00:13:18] sleger : Nerve: buy some eth next time
[2016-11-24 00:13:24] Nerve : Tetsuo: NOO...i didn't short zec
[2016-11-24 00:13:58] Nerve : Tetsuo: i hate paper money....you got me . lol
[2016-11-24 00:14:11] CaptainDean : holy short
[2016-11-24 00:14:14] CaptainDean : zec
[2016-11-24 00:14:56] rapidtrades : some moron unloaded into the oderbook
[2016-11-24 00:15:00] rapidtrades : what a twat
[2016-11-24 00:15:10] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-24 00:15:12] wurstgelee : wtf?
[2016-11-24 00:15:28] rapidtrades : i think it's the same idiot that bought 101 at 0.05
[2016-11-24 00:15:32] wurstgelee : seriously...i dont get it...
[2016-11-24 00:15:50] wurstgelee : thats completely unnecessary
[2016-11-24 00:16:01] wurstgelee : either reduced profits or increased losses
[2016-11-24 00:16:17] sleger : or he is teaching you a lesson
[2016-11-24 00:16:21] rapidtrades : idk but 100 at these prices is only 4.5 btc so peanuts
[2016-11-24 00:16:22] wurstgelee : yeah
[2016-11-24 00:16:23] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-24 00:16:25] sleger : my balls are bigger than yours
[2016-11-24 00:16:30] rapidtrades : sleger: YOU CAN'T TEACH ME ANYTHING
[2016-11-24 00:16:32] Tetsuo : i´m buyin a few here
[2016-11-24 00:16:40] wurstgelee : its simply ridiculously stupid....
[2016-11-24 00:16:45] rapidtrades : go buy ETH and their worthless tech
[2016-11-24 00:16:49] habibi : so much crying above :D
[2016-11-24 00:17:09] sleger : rapidtrades: calm down or you're gonna get your 4th ban
[2016-11-24 00:17:21] rapidtrades : u can't ban me
[2016-11-24 00:17:25] Tetsuo : equal to ETH ´s fork
[2016-11-24 00:17:40] trollboxer : zec is still up 15 percent for the day
[2016-11-24 00:17:44] trollboxer : that's still good right?
[2016-11-24 00:18:02] sleger : depends, if you longed at 3 it
[2016-11-24 00:18:07] sleger : 's kind of irrelevant
[2016-11-24 00:18:08] wurstgelee : hahaha
[2016-11-24 00:18:22] wurstgelee : it would be relevant if u had added to losers
[2016-11-24 00:18:30] wurstgelee : but you dont do it
[2016-11-24 00:18:49] rapidtrades : strictly hypothetically speaking of course
[2016-11-24 00:18:53] trollboxer : Here's the problem, that giant 2x move up shoudld have wiped out the shorts
[2016-11-24 00:18:55] wurstgelee : ofc
[2016-11-24 00:19:01] trollboxer : no one got rekt, not a single one
[2016-11-24 00:19:05] trollboxer : so something is fishy
[2016-11-24 00:19:11] wurstgelee : trollboxer: thats not a problem
[2016-11-24 00:19:13] Tetsuo : trollboxer: not true
[2016-11-24 00:19:19] wurstgelee : polo dictates the direction
[2016-11-24 00:19:21] Tetsuo : there were quite some short rekts
[2016-11-24 00:19:21] wurstgelee : we follow
[2016-11-24 00:19:26] trollboxer : like, why would they just massive dump the order book 2x?
[2016-11-24 00:19:44] arbitrage001 : this guy trying to paint the tape
[2016-11-24 00:20:19] trollboxer : like, I'm afraid to buy because there's some seller I don't understand
[2016-11-24 00:20:22] arbitrage001 : anyway, will see who has the last laugh
[2016-11-24 00:20:26] arbitrage001 : on dec 30th
[2016-11-24 00:20:28] CaptainDean : well he bought then he sold (more then he bought I think)
[2016-11-24 00:20:54] rapidtrades : trollboxer: ofc there are sellers, they were given a free ride and $$$ with the cap
[2016-11-24 00:20:55] trollboxer : i bought into all those pumps too
[2016-11-24 00:21:01] rapidtrades : they won't stop until they lose all of it back
[2016-11-24 00:22:12] trollboxer : lets make sure we got the math right on coins available now, vs in 5 weeks, its super important
[2016-11-24 00:22:12] arbitrage001 : polo price seems to agree
[2016-11-24 00:22:23] arbitrage001 : well, tough luck on long
[2016-11-24 00:22:56] trollboxer : ok, at 20k blocks the floodgates open, where are we at now?
[2016-11-24 00:23:09] imabeast : wurstgelee: under .01... that was fast lol
[2016-11-24 00:23:22] wurstgelee : yeah, indeed
[2016-11-24 00:24:17] trollboxer : oh shit. we're only at block 15640
[2016-11-24 00:25:12] wurstgelee : again, no floodgates. reward is constantly increasing to 12.5 and stays there
[2016-11-24 00:25:19] trollboxer : you don't get it man
[2016-11-24 00:25:39] trollboxer : In order to give the network and its development some breathing room, Zcash is implementing a slow-start mechanism for the first 20,000 blocks (or about 34 days). In the event of a major bug or security vulnerability in the protocol, the slow-start will minimize the impact as initially, the block reward will be a fraction of the eventual 12.5 ZEC that will be created for each block for the first 850,000 blocks - at which point, the block reward halves. Over the slow-start period, the block reward will gradually and linearly increase until it reaches the full 12.5 ZEC at the 20,000th block. ZEC distribution rate for first 30,000 blocks
[2016-11-24 00:25:39] wurstgelee : no, u dont get what floodgates are
[2016-11-24 00:25:52] trollboxer : they are not getting 12.5 currently
[2016-11-24 00:25:59] wurstgelee : lol no
[2016-11-24 00:26:08] trollboxer : they will start getting 12.5 5,000 blocks from now
[2016-11-24 00:26:19] wurstgelee : 1:25 AM - wurstgelee: again, no floodgates. reward is constantly increasing to 12.5 and stays there
[2016-11-24 00:26:28] wurstgelee : right, a now its ~8 per block
[2016-11-24 00:26:31] wurstgelee : ....
[2016-11-24 00:26:34] rapidtrades : trollboxer: plz noone wants to read that shit
[2016-11-24 00:26:51] trollboxer : ok, i'll stop saying flood gate
[2016-11-24 00:26:52] trollboxer : sorry
[2016-11-24 00:27:14] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-11-24 00:27:15] wurstgelee : np
[2016-11-24 00:27:17] lockhedge : wurstgelee: 9.78 already
[2016-11-24 00:27:22] wurstgelee : an ico is a floodgate
[2016-11-24 00:27:28] trollboxer : right now zec has 76k coins in existance total
[2016-11-24 00:27:36] wurstgelee : lockhedge: oh wow
[2016-11-24 00:28:02] wurstgelee : hm..right..been a few days since i checked
[2016-11-24 00:28:30] trollboxer : the supply is literally an image, you can see what its "gate" looks like, if not flood: https://z.cash/blog/slow-start-and-mining-ecosystem.html
[2016-11-24 00:28:44] rapidtrades : $2,438,390 <market cap is still tiny
[2016-11-24 00:28:45] wurstgelee : well, i am buying here
[2016-11-24 00:28:55] rapidtrades : this shit has to be worth more then monero
[2016-11-24 00:29:35] rapidtrades : sry this is market cap $5,695,357
[2016-11-24 00:29:50] rapidtrades : vs monero $106,184,204
[2016-11-24 00:29:53] trollboxer : I think the same logic that caused this coin to start high and go low, will continue to exist until something else changes it
[2016-11-24 00:30:02] rapidtrades : expect 20x jump to 2
[2016-11-24 00:30:26] arbitrage001 : i would be happyto settle at 0.5 lol
[2016-11-24 00:31:02] Adriana : .
[2016-11-24 00:31:16] rapidtrades : Adriana: don't spam
[2016-11-24 00:31:25] wurstgelee : Adriana: please calm down
[2016-11-24 00:31:37] rapidtrades : what a cunt...
[2016-11-24 00:32:34] psk : ok
[2016-11-24 00:32:37] rapidtrades : guess the question is when will the market cap rise to 100 mil
[2016-11-24 00:32:38] trollboxer : the third chart on that graph is kiling me
[2016-11-24 00:32:49] trollboxer : *page
[2016-11-24 00:32:58] rapidtrades : we could have 5x coins by then
[2016-11-24 00:33:08] habibi : lets see how many new accounts will show up just to get into 2btc contest
[2016-11-24 00:35:26] rapidtrades : our expectancy to win is $1-2 so we're not losing much
[2016-11-24 00:38:44] Tetsuo : i know that i already wrote it earlier, but i still can´t believe that it was possible to withdraw cash from btc24.com up to 10k€ per day, and u got it sent per mail, without any KYC. Good ol days...
[2016-11-24 00:39:25] Tetsuo : Not that i have paid a single cent of tax until today....
[2016-11-24 00:40:01] Tetsuo : oh well i bette r get sleepin now, too drunk, talk too much...