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[2015-10-16 08:38:34] macios15 : 1700 and reverse?
[2015-10-16 08:40:19] BitMEX_Arthur : Yeah I think so
[2015-10-16 09:33:49] macios15 : if we pass 1700 and 262 bubble is confirmed
[2015-10-16 09:36:04] kogroken : If I try to add a limit sell at a high price (around 500), while being long, I get the error that it would put my account into margin call. How can this be?
[2015-10-16 09:38:49] macios15 : damn we are soo close to that 1W SAR mark
[2015-10-16 09:39:14] kogroken : Ah, seems like I have to use a close limit instead. But a close limit seems to close the whole position at the specified price, is there a way to only close part of a position at a high price?
[2015-10-16 09:40:42] cengel : with stop limit you can specify quantity
[2015-10-16 09:40:58] macios15 : open some alarm on android device insted, should be no problem if u want to close it at 500
[2015-10-16 09:45:20] macios15 : if u want to close part make oposite order on 500
[2015-10-16 09:45:31] kogroken : cengel: Stop limit gives error message if trying to place a sell order at a high price.
[2015-10-16 09:45:53] cengel : yea any limit order does
[2015-10-16 09:45:59] cengel : when you have isolate on
[2015-10-16 09:46:13] kogroken : cengel: ah, sorry, read limit. Will try stop limit.
[2015-10-16 09:48:48] kogroken : Nope, stop limit did not work either. I don't have isolate margin checked.
[2015-10-16 09:52:01] kogroken : The problem is, I guess, that margin is reserved for sells, even if you already have a sufficiently large position to sell.
[2015-10-16 09:53:04] jung1 : correction or $300?
[2015-10-16 09:53:22] Matthew.v : moon
[2015-10-16 09:53:24] BitMEX_Arthur : I think we will retrace to mid 250s
[2015-10-16 09:53:24] kogroken : So there is no way to create orders to close a part of a position at a specific price (as opposed to creating sell orders)
[2015-10-16 09:57:39] Ontita : "Could not complete order: Too many requests"
[2015-10-16 09:57:51] macios15 : my profit is 66,66 i should close it :D
[2015-10-16 09:58:03] Matthew.v : om nom nom profit!!
[2015-10-16 09:58:18] jung1 : huge buys on huobi
[2015-10-16 09:58:22] Matthew.v : xbth24 has a decent delay before spot market fomos
[2015-10-16 09:58:27] jung1 : china is wake up
[2015-10-16 09:58:44] Matthew.v : no china is walking out of the office
[2015-10-16 09:58:47] Matthew.v : 6pmhere
[2015-10-16 09:59:10] jung1 : 12 in eu
[2015-10-16 09:59:19] jung1 : weekend will be fun
[2015-10-16 09:59:20] macios15 : only stamp can stop us now
[2015-10-16 10:01:27] macios15 : china is going to get that 1W SAR soon
[2015-10-16 10:02:31] jung1 : 1W SAR?
[2015-10-16 10:04:38] macios15 : wisdom setings sar 1W
[2015-10-16 10:09:29] macios15 : china this week volume is close to 1,5mln xbt its even more then botom on 900 cny
[2015-10-16 10:17:57] jung1 : Im going to quit my fulltime jub for XBT24H
[2015-10-16 10:18:30] cengel : that's a great idea
[2015-10-16 10:19:04] jung1 : ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-10-16 10:21:17] macios15 : 1750 this week or next what u think?
[2015-10-16 10:26:39] priceaction : next week
[2015-10-16 10:31:17] macios15 : xbt24h is closing by fair price or by orderbook
[2015-10-16 10:31:43] BitMEX_Arthur : The TradeBlock XBX Index
[2015-10-16 10:31:47] gonfalons : Been longing since $238 but keep losing somehow
[2015-10-16 10:32:07] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT30M
[2015-10-16 10:32:14] Matthew.v : are you getting eaten by fees?
[2015-10-16 10:34:35] gonfalons : Think it's the swings
[2015-10-16 10:39:36] gonfalons : What's the best way to go long while avoiding the short term swings
[2015-10-16 10:45:42] jung1 : buy and hold
[2015-10-16 10:48:14] Matthew.v : dont forget to do it on xbth16
[2015-10-16 10:48:39] Matthew.v : I am finding the premium increasing a little bit every once in a while
[2015-10-16 10:54:27] BitMEX_Arthur : Matthew.v: XBTH16 is undervalued in my opinion
[2015-10-16 10:54:37] BitMEX_Arthur : when the fomo really sets in it's going to rocket up faster than spot
[2015-10-16 10:55:29] Matthew.v : I know, I expect action right near the auction.
[2015-10-16 10:58:08] BitMEX_Arthur : The auction is a non event
[2015-10-16 10:58:10] BitMEX_Arthur : imo
[2015-10-16 10:58:18] BitMEX_Arthur : maybe the first couple had some impact
[2015-10-16 10:58:32] BitMEX_Arthur : but after the price craters 80% from the ath
[2015-10-16 10:58:43] BitMEX_Arthur : they cease to have a negative effect
[2015-10-16 10:59:56] BitMEX_Arthur : T-minus 1 hour until settlement
[2015-10-16 11:00:39] Matthew.v : good to know settlement is 8pm my time.
[2015-10-16 11:01:40] Matthew.v : now, Lets see if I can get another pump before we settle :D
[2015-10-16 11:11:41] macios15 : i think so
[2015-10-16 11:14:54] macios15 : we need to pass 1700 in this hour or we will see corection
[2015-10-16 13:31:49] macios15 : is just me or orderbook is clear
[2015-10-16 13:32:10] Yumi : you cant place orders - "Exchange suspended"
[2015-10-16 13:33:02] kogroken : what's happening?
[2015-10-16 13:33:24] nickhnt : idk
[2015-10-16 13:33:34] cengel : whats going on?
[2015-10-16 13:33:53] cengel : Order could not be submitted: Exchange suspended
[2015-10-16 13:33:55] BitMEX_Sam : We had a blockchain issue, we're resolving
[2015-10-16 13:33:59] BitMEX_Sam : I will update everyone shortly
[2015-10-16 13:34:09] Mangalica : order book looks pretty nuked but it might just be my side
[2015-10-16 13:34:25] cengel : market is moving
[2015-10-16 13:34:57] escalicha : I cant place a order
[2015-10-16 13:35:11] macios15 : nobody can
[2015-10-16 13:35:21] Yumi : exchange has built -in safety system, it probably found discrepancy and kicked in
[2015-10-16 13:36:50] Yumi : it happened before when deposit with many confirmation was reported by block chain explorer as unconfirmed (bug)
[2015-10-16 13:37:32] macios15 : how long dose it take
[2015-10-16 13:37:53] Yumi : I bet Sam will update us asap
[2015-10-16 13:38:27] macios15 : damn happened in worst time
[2015-10-16 13:39:01] escalicha : Free trading for this issue?
[2015-10-16 13:39:20] escalicha : No fees for people with opened contracts!
[2015-10-16 13:39:31] escalicha : yuhuuç
[2015-10-16 13:39:53] smoker : ofc it happened in worst time :)
[2015-10-16 13:42:19] cengel : hijo de puta
[2015-10-16 13:47:20] escalicha : Cengel tranquilo xd
[2015-10-16 13:47:46] escalicha : metete en forobits
[2015-10-16 13:49:19] krach : is the LTC market closed?
[2015-10-16 13:51:02] BitMEX_Sam : krach: all markets are closed for the moment
[2015-10-16 13:51:06] BitMEX_Sam : will update shortly, very sorry for the delay.
[2015-10-16 13:51:39] priceaction : BitMEX_Sam: so what happens to the daily?
[2015-10-16 13:52:12] peasant-wizard : My position closed, I'm in profit, but I don't see it in my order history?
[2015-10-16 13:52:35] peasant-wizard : Ah it's in transaction history
[2015-10-16 13:54:00] krach : ok, is this a post settlment hiccup?
[2015-10-16 13:55:22] macios15 : its working
[2015-10-16 13:55:58] peasant-wizard : Does it show what price I settled at?
[2015-10-16 13:56:33] BitMEX_Sam : We're back online.
[2015-10-16 13:56:52] BitMEX_Sam : Our apologies for the disruption, I'll come back to you soon with a good postmortem.
[2015-10-16 14:01:03] escalicha : Free of fee or someting? maybe 1 day :D!
[2015-10-16 14:28:48] joequant : I assume that I can take the settlement price as the new entry price, correct? Entry price is showing an old price.
[2015-10-16 14:29:12] BitMEX_Arthur : That is your life to date average entry price
[2015-10-16 14:29:23] BitMEX_Arthur : We just changed that yesterday
[2015-10-16 14:30:38] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, we thought the actual entry price (`avgCostPrice`) was more useful than the rebalance price.
[2015-10-16 14:30:55] BitMEX_Sam : If you're accessing via the API and want the old behavior, use `avgEntryPrice`
[2015-10-16 14:31:32] joequant : So which price should I use to calculate current PnL
[2015-10-16 14:32:45] joequant : Because I was calculating PnL using the rebalance price and then the current market price.
[2015-10-16 14:33:04] BitMEX_Sam : The fields haven't actually changed,
[2015-10-16 14:33:08] BitMEX_Arthur : Are you looking for life to date pnl
[2015-10-16 14:33:12] BitMEX_Sam : We just show `avgCostPrice` on the UI now instead of `avgEntryPrice`
[2015-10-16 14:33:45] joequant : I'm looking for the PnL since the last rebalance.
[2015-10-16 14:35:16] BitMEX_Sam : joequant: That's unrealisedPnl
[2015-10-16 14:36:59] joequant : yup. I just calculate locally so I can mark that with my own prices
[2015-10-16 14:37:26] BitMEX_Sam : Sure. So use the difference between `avgEntryPrice` and `markPrice` to calc that number.
[2015-10-16 15:04:55] macios15 : lift off
[2015-10-16 15:05:19] BitMEX_Sam : Clearly we need a moon emoji
[2015-10-16 15:09:39] laisee : O
[2015-10-16 15:10:30] smoker : add more fuel to the rocket
[2015-10-16 15:17:17] hashman : does realized PNL include the fees?
[2015-10-16 15:17:22] macios15 : if letter is going to get pass 264 we get that 1W SAR up soo even more skyrocketing
[2015-10-16 15:23:24] priceaction : i think btc is going mental in china
[2015-10-16 15:23:56] BitMEX_Sam : hashman: Yes
[2015-10-16 15:24:15] BitMEX_Arthur : I told y'all https://blog.bitmex.com/the-most-important-chart-in-bitcoin/
[2015-10-16 15:24:20] BitMEX_Sam : Fees are already deducted from both realised & unrealised pnl
[2015-10-16 15:24:25] BitMEX_Arthur : Edumacate yourselves :)
[2015-10-16 15:24:34] priceaction : oi oi toldya all:)
[2015-10-16 15:25:07] priceaction : but now it's at a point where a critical mass is reached to grow like yeast again
[2015-10-16 15:25:18] BitMEX_Sam : Happy to see volatility return yet again
[2015-10-16 15:25:20] BitMEX_Sam : Let's hope it's here to stay
[2015-10-16 15:26:25] priceaction : i will include you in my prayers to satoshi
[2015-10-16 15:26:59] priceaction : i'm thinking of setting up an btm in china:)
[2015-10-16 15:29:16] smoker : btc 270 in china
[2015-10-16 15:31:47] aethlios : china should show some love to LTC also...
[2015-10-16 15:32:13] priceaction : smoker: dang
[2015-10-16 15:32:52] macios15 : boom
[2015-10-16 15:32:56] BitMEX_Arthur : Something is going on in China
[2015-10-16 15:33:05] BitMEX_Arthur : PBOC did something
[2015-10-16 15:33:08] macios15 : no resistance
[2015-10-16 15:34:16] priceaction : BitMEX_Arthur: economy coming down for real
[2015-10-16 15:35:01] BitMEX_Arthur : Go China Go
[2015-10-16 15:35:38] macios15 : 157% today jet
[2015-10-16 15:36:39] smoker : what happens when i reach Unrealised PNL (ROE % to 100%?
[2015-10-16 15:36:52] smoker : its green ofc
[2015-10-16 15:37:01] BitMEX_Sam : smoker: You can go over 100%
[2015-10-16 15:37:14] smoker : ok good :)
[2015-10-16 15:37:24] BitMEX_Sam : That's when it starts throwing moon emoji all over your screen
[2015-10-16 15:37:26] BitMEX_Sam : Watch out for that
[2015-10-16 15:37:45] laisee : you get a stamp on your hand ;-)
[2015-10-16 15:37:56] smoker : im here first day testing :)
[2015-10-16 15:38:11] BitMEX_Sam : Today is a good day to start
[2015-10-16 15:39:00] smoker : i see wd are once per day thats because security reasons?
[2015-10-16 15:39:19] BitMEX_Sam : smoker: Yep - we review all by hand and do the transactions through offline multisig
[2015-10-16 15:39:39] smoker : ok good it works for me
[2015-10-16 15:40:09] BitMEX_Sam : Someday (hopefully soon) we'll have a hybrid hot/cold for smaller withdrawals but safeguarding funds is our #1 priority
[2015-10-16 15:40:23] BitMEX_Sam : Better safe than sorry with the way so many other exchanges have gone.
[2015-10-16 15:40:37] smoker : yeah security on #1 place
[2015-10-16 15:42:53] priceaction : that's a lot of pandas fatfingering today:)
[2015-10-16 15:51:19] BitMEX_Arthur : Look at Finex
[2015-10-16 15:58:46] priceaction : BitMEX_Arthur: huobi spiked to 272.5
[2015-10-16 15:59:15] BitMEX_Arthur : Yeah finally some good price action
[2015-10-16 15:59:28] smoker : ^^
[2015-10-16 16:01:28] Yumi : BitMEX_Arthur: why do you think XBTV15 and XBTZ15 have higher premiums than XBTH16 ?
[2015-10-16 16:02:30] BitMEX_Arthur : Liquidity premium
[2015-10-16 16:03:00] BitMEX_Arthur : But when the fomo really sets in h16 is goingto seriously outperform
[2015-10-16 16:04:13] BitMEX_Arthur : If we make it over 300, annualised basis for h16 will be north of 100%
[2015-10-16 16:04:24] BitMEX_Arthur : it is trading in the mid 40s now
[2015-10-16 16:07:47] Yumi : I agree but premium on it barely moved since start of rally while XBTV15 went from about 30% pa to about 50% pa
[2015-10-16 16:11:47] BitMEX_Arthur : Liquidity premium
[2015-10-16 16:11:59] BitMEX_Arthur : the MM is quoting much more on V15 than H16 because of the shorter expiry
[2015-10-16 16:32:23] macios15 : closed 148% gg guys
[2015-10-16 16:33:44] priceaction : macios15: well done
[2015-10-16 17:28:58] nickhnt : closed too soon
[2015-10-16 17:29:04] nickhnt : i thinks its going to 280
[2015-10-16 17:29:59] BitMEX_Arthur : 270 will be tough that is where we broke down during Greece
[2015-10-16 17:35:37] jung1 : what will happened when I click Close Market on XBT24H during my open position? Its same as close position?
[2015-10-16 17:39:37] BitMEX_Sam : jung1: Yeah, Close Market opens a market order (so it should close right away)
[2015-10-16 17:39:37] macios15 : i think thats it for the rally, jet
[2015-10-16 17:39:47] macios15 : head and shoulders
[2015-10-16 17:43:43] AudibleScience : Is something strange going on?
[2015-10-16 17:44:02] Yumi : what do you mean?
[2015-10-16 17:44:51] AudibleScience : there seems to be major gaps in the volume on several exchanges?
[2015-10-16 17:44:55] jung1 : AudibleScience: yep. Moon or ground
[2015-10-16 17:45:12] j8 : are you looking at bitcoinwisdom. has been giving me issues today
[2015-10-16 17:45:21] kogroken : AudibleScience: bitcoinwisdom seems to be broken at the moment, if you are looking at that
[2015-10-16 17:45:40] AudibleScience : lol
[2015-10-16 17:45:41] nickhnt : whats happening wiht huobi?
[2015-10-16 17:45:46] AudibleScience : that would be it man!
[2015-10-16 17:46:33] AudibleScience : I'm just getting a "loading" message...
[2015-10-16 17:46:39] Yumi : try cryptowat.ch
[2015-10-16 17:46:53] AudibleScience : was just about to do that...
[2015-10-16 17:47:15] nickhnt : Yumi: thnks
[2015-10-16 17:47:26] macios15 : great day 150% on long, now 35% already on short
[2015-10-16 17:47:29] macios15 : love this site
[2015-10-16 17:48:23] jung1 : go long or go home
[2015-10-16 17:48:35] jung1 : ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-10-16 17:49:06] macios15 : jep im going long, sar 1w is waiting today i think
[2015-10-16 17:49:08] nickhnt : xD
[2015-10-16 17:50:58] jung1 : I think we will have floor aroud $300 till the end of the year and pump to 2-3k near halving
[2015-10-16 17:52:21] macios15 : i bet 330-340 then again 220-230 and start halving bubble
[2015-10-16 17:52:38] jung1 : even better scenerio
[2015-10-16 17:53:36] BitMEX_Sam : Nice trading macios15
[2015-10-16 17:54:08] macios15 : its rising too fast to 300$ at end of year, look on china volume its like close to 4mln coins this month
[2015-10-16 17:54:32] nickhnt : nice macios
[2015-10-16 17:54:33] macios15 : ofc its fake but damn 4mln
[2015-10-16 17:54:47] nickhnt : I had a good trade today too
[2015-10-16 17:55:33] macios15 : prepare for sar 1w breaking
[2015-10-16 17:58:40] AudibleScience : YES!! I can make deposits again!
[2015-10-16 17:59:29] AudibleScience : I just did a test with 1 coin... and it arrived!
[2015-10-16 18:00:16] jung1 : #hackerthings
[2015-10-16 18:01:05] nickhnt : i wont short this top because the momentum to go up is still on
[2015-10-16 18:02:53] macios15 : jep its only corection probably
[2015-10-16 18:13:06] macios15 : am i only one person online here :D
[2015-10-16 18:13:21] BitMEX_Sam : Nope
[2015-10-16 18:13:33] nickhnt : im here too
[2015-10-16 18:13:35] nickhnt : working
[2015-10-16 18:13:45] macios15 : look at this still look shity http://scr.hu/3e9p/56hpz
[2015-10-16 18:14:10] macios15 : and finex buy walls PUFF
[2015-10-16 18:17:04] nickhnt : stamp is 260already
[2015-10-16 18:18:21] macios15 : bounced of that line i made perfectly
[2015-10-16 18:18:40] nickhnt : yeah nice call
[2015-10-16 18:24:42] nickhnt : closed my short
[2015-10-16 18:24:46] nickhnt : nice 50% xD
[2015-10-16 18:37:31] BitMEX_Sam : Hey traders: if you refresh, you should see much improved performance / lower CPU usage when the orderbook updates.
[2015-10-16 18:39:09] j8 : nice, was getting pretty sluggish
[2015-10-16 18:39:12] cengel : lower CPU usage sounds good to me
[2015-10-16 18:39:16] cengel : +1 j8
[2015-10-16 18:40:18] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah. We usually flush updates to the DOM every 16ms (60fps) but there was a bug I was working through, so it was disabled for the last few days.
[2015-10-16 18:40:21] BitMEX_Sam : It's back on now.
[2015-10-16 18:41:08] j8 : less flashing is better imo
[2015-10-16 18:41:31] cengel : more flashing is better then i know its activ
[2015-10-16 18:42:54] j8 : if it's just numbers changing you'll see it
[2015-10-16 18:44:10] j8 : trading is exciting enough without flashing lights and sounds.
[2015-10-16 18:44:11] cengel : oh i meant numbers changing
[2015-10-16 18:44:20] cengel : as in "flush" update as he say
[2015-10-16 18:44:27] cengel : not long pause
[2015-10-16 18:44:33] cengel : not flashing lights
[2015-10-16 18:44:45] j8 : oh yeah, i see my comment was confusingly unrelated to that
[2015-10-16 18:45:36] j8 : it seems it also flashes less, i.e. not on every incremental update
[2015-10-16 18:45:54] BitMEX_Sam : Well, the idea behind the optimization is that it batches all work together into a group - and if any of it is redundant (say, two orderbook updates, or multiple price updates), it drops the redundant work
[2015-10-16 18:46:17] BitMEX_Sam : You wouldn't have been able to see the update anyway.
[2015-10-16 18:46:21] cengel : ive noticed i need to close and reopen more lately , slow
[2015-10-16 18:46:34] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah. It should be better now - let me know how it is for you.
[2015-10-16 18:47:04] cengel : on next move ill do a proper test
[2015-10-16 18:47:15] cengel : but feels okay
[2015-10-16 18:57:10] hashman : is there any referral link program?
[2015-10-16 18:57:16] BitMEX_Sam : Yep,
[2015-10-16 18:57:22] BitMEX_Sam : https://www.bitmex.com/app/affiliates
[2015-10-16 18:57:25] hashman : thxs
[2015-10-16 18:57:28] BitMEX_Sam : It's under Account on the left
[2015-10-16 19:02:06] jung1 : how can I put 24h long with stop limits? or its not possible?
[2015-10-16 19:03:11] BitMEX_Sam : jung1: Not sure what you mean, could you explain?
[2015-10-16 19:03:42] hashman : I wish there was an easy way to put in a buy order with both a take profit sell and a stop limit at the same time. autopilot so I could sleep.
[2015-10-16 19:03:58] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, OCO - it's on our list.
[2015-10-16 19:04:17] hashman : OCO - ? O
[2015-10-16 19:04:19] jung1 : can I put long position with stop limits which will close that order when price will fall?
[2015-10-16 19:04:24] hashman : not familiar with the term
[2015-10-16 19:04:26] BitMEX_Sam : jung1: Yes
[2015-10-16 19:04:35] BitMEX_Sam : hashman: "One Cancels Other"
[2015-10-16 19:04:48] hashman : yes, that would be grat
[2015-10-16 19:04:49] hashman : great
[2015-10-16 19:04:53] hashman : any ETA on that? :)
[2015-10-16 19:05:04] macios15 : it there any way to make like max possible quantity avaiable in one click? im getting sick in chaning it like 10 times
[2015-10-16 19:05:05] BitMEX_Sam : hashman: Not yet, we have a lot of projects in flight, but we've had a lot of people ask for it this week.
[2015-10-16 19:05:34] hashman : I can see why considering the market action. MY top of list is that OCO and a native iPhone app would be awesome
[2015-10-16 19:05:40] BitMEX_Sam : macios15: That's a good idea, I'll add it to our tracker
[2015-10-16 19:05:49] macios15 : thanks
[2015-10-16 19:06:17] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: but where? when I go to "Stop Limit" there's only option to Set Sell Stop
[2015-10-16 19:06:30] jung1 : can you explain me step by step how to do it?
[2015-10-16 19:06:30] BitMEX_Sam : jung1: It disables one button or the other depending on the Stop Price.
[2015-10-16 19:06:54] BitMEX_Sam : If you're going long, set a sell stop with a stop price below the current mark price. See https://www.bitmex.com/app/stopLimitOrder
[2015-10-16 19:16:17] krach : good to see bitmex near the top 10 in volume
[2015-10-16 19:16:25] krach : leverage FTW
[2015-10-16 19:21:49] jung1 : where you get your analysis from? do it by your own or some tradingviews etc ?
[2015-10-16 19:25:52] macios15 : magical glass ball
[2015-10-16 19:26:05] macios15 : i can sell u one for 1k $ :D
[2015-10-16 19:29:10] jung1 : 1k doges
[2015-10-16 19:29:11] jung1 : deal?
[2015-10-16 19:29:25] jung1 : shipping included
[2015-10-16 19:39:31] BitMEX_Wally : Who wants a Dogecoin futures contract?
[2015-10-16 19:39:37] BitMEX_Wally : 100000000x leverage
[2015-10-16 19:39:38] BitMEX_Wally : So wow
[2015-10-16 19:39:45] BitMEX_Wally : Much rekt
[2015-10-16 19:40:35] laisee : doge in space
[2015-10-16 19:42:21] justinlooking : data gemini hightick
[2015-10-16 19:46:50] macios15 : gemini sucks i think bitmex nr 1 soon
[2015-10-16 19:47:12] justinlooking : gemini is spot i think
[2015-10-16 19:49:03] jung1 : gemini will be huge. Its kund of brigde between btc and finatial world
[2015-10-16 19:49:15] jung1 : it will be digital assets exchange in future
[2015-10-16 19:49:17] jung1 : not only btc
[2015-10-16 19:56:11] macios15 : china pumping again
[2015-10-16 20:43:54] roby3d : there is someone here ?
[2015-10-16 20:55:21] zanza : anyone losing money today?!
[2015-10-16 20:56:00] zanza : is stamp leading volume today?
[2015-10-16 20:57:57] macios15 : boom
[2015-10-16 20:58:03] macios15 : bitstamp dead
[2015-10-16 21:16:29] cengel : Sam it has been snappy noticeably different
[2015-10-16 21:36:02] gustavo7 : holding my xbu like hell
[2015-10-16 22:30:14] zanza : had to make rush deposit in order to prevent liquidation today :/
[2015-10-16 22:31:12] zanza : whoever shorted XBT24H at 265 congrats =]
[2015-10-16 22:38:30] galix621@gmail.com : Hehe
[2015-10-16 23:11:55] bosma : BITMEX:XBT1D ticker working on TV?
[2015-10-16 23:13:56] BitMEX_Sam : bosma: Appears not
[2015-10-16 23:14:07] BitMEX_Sam : I've been talking to their CTO, they haven't listed 7D yet either
[2015-10-16 23:16:21] zanza : for some reason, hyperion is showing Stamp leading volume
[2015-10-16 23:21:03] BitMEX_Sam : Stamp has been very gappy today
[2015-10-16 23:21:13] BitMEX_Sam : A few very large spikes & very large candles
[2015-10-17 01:02:53] joequant : chinese government is printing money
[2015-10-17 01:03:15] jung1 : every government printing money
[2015-10-17 01:03:34] jung1 : btc dont have gov=no printing
[2015-10-17 01:03:39] jung1 : simple
[2015-10-17 01:03:52] jung1 : (⌐ ͡■ ͜ʖ ͡■)
[2015-10-17 01:04:11] zanza : except for the 3600 BTC printed everyday
[2015-10-17 01:04:18] joequant : right
[2015-10-17 01:04:42] joequant : but what is happening is that the chinese government has told the banks to start pumping money into the SOE's
[2015-10-17 01:04:55] joequant : and that money is leaking into bitcoin
[2015-10-17 01:05:07] joequant : pretty obvious pattern
[2015-10-17 01:07:46] joequant : the pattern is 1) bitfinex < chinese exchanges and 2) chinese stock exchanges go up.
[2015-10-17 01:13:26] jung1 : ok Im going to sleep its fucking 3 am here
[2015-10-17 01:13:37] jung1 : XBT24H be good to me
[2015-10-17 01:13:53] jung1 : (⌐ ͡■ ͜ʖ ͡■)
[2015-10-17 01:15:20] AudibleScience : lol how do you do those character faces man? @jung1
[2015-10-17 01:58:42] AudibleScience : are you there @BitMEX_Sam
[2015-10-17 02:00:28] BitMEX_Wally : AudibleScience: Can I help?
[2015-10-17 02:01:58] AudibleScience : sure... Hi Wally
[2015-10-17 02:02:11] AudibleScience : the white indicator bar at the bottom of the order buttons does not seem to be indicating anymore?
[2015-10-17 02:02:46] BitMEX_Wally : Should be, working for me on Safari
[2015-10-17 02:03:34] AudibleScience : when did you refresh?
[2015-10-17 02:04:10] AudibleScience : I just did after noticing the problem... and it is still happening in chrome
[2015-10-17 02:06:11] BitMEX_Wally : I've just refreshed and I see the problem
[2015-10-17 02:08:44] AudibleScience : oh good
[2015-10-17 02:08:57] AudibleScience : I mean... you know what I mean
[2015-10-17 02:08:59] AudibleScience : lol
[2015-10-17 02:09:39] AudibleScience : bad about the problem, but good that you see it also... else it would be a glitch in the matrix again...
[2015-10-17 02:09:58] AudibleScience : I hate when they happen! lol
[2015-10-17 04:49:37] macios15 : am i dreaming or huobi is at 280
[2015-10-17 04:55:02] joequant : Chinese government is printing massive amounts of money.
[2015-10-17 04:55:18] joequant : It goes into bitcoin.
[2015-10-17 04:57:08] joequant : Part of it is a currency thing.
[2015-10-17 04:57:16] joequant : CNYUSD is likely to get devalued on Monday
[2015-10-17 04:57:34] BitMEX_Arthur : That is my view as well
[2015-10-17 04:57:34] BitMEX_Arthur : That is my view as wellSomeone knows something
[2015-10-17 04:57:53] BitMEX_Arthur : And they started pushing a lot of money into B
[2015-10-17 04:58:43] joequant : It's pretty obvious if you are sitting here in HK that's what's happening.
[2015-10-17 04:58:52] macios15 : its your preditcion or its legit info
[2015-10-17 04:58:56] macios15 : i just woke up
[2015-10-17 04:59:12] joequant : It's what's happening.
[2015-10-17 04:59:19] BitMEX_Arthur : My prediction there will be a massive USDCNY devaluation on Monday
[2015-10-17 04:59:21] joequant : The Chinese government doesn't are about bitcoin.
[2015-10-17 04:59:25] BitMEX_Arthur : only reason why China is ripping over the weekend
[2015-10-17 04:59:36] joequant : But they are dropping cash from helicopters.
[2015-10-17 05:00:08] ethexio : Why arrive orders shows 2 unfilled, but Positions shows 1 unfilled?
[2015-10-17 05:00:20] joequant : The helicopter dropping is going to push down the CNY on monday.
[2015-10-17 05:00:28] macios15 : finex 1w sar is above 285 so we probably going more than that lvl
[2015-10-17 05:00:46] joequant : The cool thing about XBT is that it's open on the weekend.
[2015-10-17 05:00:50] ethexio : Same direction maybe?
[2015-10-17 05:01:09] joequant : The Chinese government did a helicopter drop. None of the other markets noticed because they are closed.
[2015-10-17 05:04:07] joequant : not much of a secret. you can hear the money getting printed.
[2015-10-17 05:04:55] macios15 : passed 1800
[2015-10-17 05:05:04] macios15 : holly fcuk
[2015-10-17 05:05:32] joequant : perdicion is that it will do this for about a day and then crash.
[2015-10-17 05:05:58] joequant : What happens often is that people rebalance XBT so you are seeing a traffic jam.
[2015-10-17 05:06:24] macios15 : i think above 285 finex than crash
[2015-10-17 05:06:36] macios15 : stamp is jus about hit that 1w sar
[2015-10-17 05:06:57] joequant : The crash is not value driven but time drive.
[2015-10-17 05:07:08] joequant : Someone wants to move money back and forth.
[2015-10-17 05:07:16] joequant : And so you have a traffic jam.
[2015-10-17 05:07:39] joequant : It will spike as people grab BTC to move value.
[2015-10-17 05:07:47] macios15 : jep
[2015-10-17 05:07:55] joequant : But once that's done it will crash.
[2015-10-17 05:07:59] macios15 : or sb close his longs
[2015-10-17 05:08:05] joequant : Once they moved the money.
[2015-10-17 05:08:05] macios15 : but probably not jet
[2015-10-17 05:08:57] macios15 : 1815
[2015-10-17 05:09:02] macios15 : sory 1817
[2015-10-17 05:09:19] macios15 : its too fast to type
[2015-10-17 05:09:26] joequant : People have figured out that there is going to be a devaluation on monday.
[2015-10-17 05:19:29] btc_0193 : wtf is up with the market makers on the daily
[2015-10-17 05:19:38] btc_0193 : their bots are lagging hard
[2015-10-17 05:19:59] cengel : it usuall has to reassess and ocme back
[2015-10-17 05:20:04] zanza : i think houbi leading volume
[2015-10-17 05:20:40] macios15 : huobi only this week volume is 2mln coins
[2015-10-17 05:39:32] zanza : this china price action is insane
[2015-10-17 05:39:53] zanza : i can't tell who is leading
[2015-10-17 05:40:00] macios15 : boom
[2015-10-17 05:40:10] priceaction : zanza: huobi price was 289!
[2015-10-17 05:40:40] zanza : u sure?
[2015-10-17 05:41:07] zanza : i need 50x leverage on XBTH16
[2015-10-17 05:41:36] hashman : what the hell
[2015-10-17 05:42:15] priceaction : zanza: 1835 cny
[2015-10-17 05:43:09] zanza : bfinex just dumped from 272 - 258
[2015-10-17 05:43:17] zanza : rip
[2015-10-17 05:43:34] priceaction : zanza: they will see crazy short squeeze exploding
[2015-10-17 05:44:29] macios15 : china dot give a shit, still 1829 :DDDDD
[2015-10-17 05:44:53] priceaction : i'm so tired of bfx manipulation bs
[2015-10-17 05:45:07] hashman : fuck bfx
[2015-10-17 05:45:13] hashman : hah
[2015-10-17 05:45:30] hashman : bfx screwed me so many times
[2015-10-17 05:45:42] priceaction : that bfx vol was only 500 coins china is laughing
[2015-10-17 05:50:29] macios15 : 1800 in china and we would still go up
[2015-10-17 05:55:21] priceaction : trade just stopped?
[2015-10-17 06:02:04] priceaction : hashman: bfx is doomed
[2015-10-17 06:11:51] macios15 : next stop 1850
[2015-10-17 06:47:12] priceaction : hey bitmex i'm using vpn in china and now i cannot deposit btc??? because it says i'm us?
[2015-10-17 07:00:02] macios15 : how rebalances work or dose it ?
[2015-10-17 07:00:02] BitMEX_Wally : Email support@bitmex.com with proof of residence in China and we'll sort you out
[2015-10-17 07:00:18] Matthew.v : ,bitmex I just cant quit your xbt24
[2015-10-17 07:01:09] BitMEX_Wally : macios15: You can read about rebalancing here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation
[2015-10-17 07:02:25] BitMEX_Wally : Basically each Friday when we rebalance the monthly contracts, everyone's unrealisedPnl becomes realisedPnl and they can then withdraw it
[2015-10-17 07:03:39] macios15 : u could add that realised pnl could be playable on that specified contract before expiry date
[2015-10-17 07:04:00] macios15 : it could like triple profits
[2015-10-17 07:04:59] BitMEX_Wally : macios15: Unfortunately because of the potential for a system loss we need to keep that realisedPnl incase of DPE
[2015-10-17 07:06:22] BitMEX_Wally : Still, with only 1% initial margin requirement, just deposit more funds and you can triple your profits :)
[2015-10-17 07:23:53] macios15 : 1740 would stop it or now what you think
[2015-10-17 08:22:33] blocklud : hello all. Is XBT24H chart available on tv.? Can't find it.
[2015-10-17 08:22:49] BitMEX_Arthur : I think they are having some issues
[2015-10-17 08:22:52] BitMEX_Arthur : Sam emailed their CTO
[2015-10-17 08:22:56] BitMEX_Arthur : so hopefully will be fixed soon
[2015-10-17 08:23:30] blocklud : cool thanks
[2015-10-17 08:25:31] blocklud : hmm.. why country of residence is needed for deposits?
[2015-10-17 08:25:53] BitMEX_Arthur : We don't serve US residents
[2015-10-17 08:27:18] blocklud : :) what country is "bitmex" at?
[2015-10-17 08:28:11] BitMEX_Arthur : We are a Republic of Seychelles company
[2015-10-17 08:36:12] blocklud : nice sea view
[2015-10-17 08:36:47] cengel : I heard there's an indian guy who owns half the island
[2015-10-17 08:37:53] BitMEX_Arthur : Hmm I have never been there :)
[2015-10-17 08:40:02] cengel : http://www.americanbazaaronline.com/2015/10/13/indian-billionaire-chinnakannan-sivasankaran-manipulates-laws-of-seychelles-to-profit-from-bankruptcy/
[2015-10-17 08:42:31] TraderStefan : I am glad to see XBT24H profit adjustment is still at zero percent with all this volatility
[2015-10-17 08:42:54] cengel : ya its a testament to the index and mark price system
[2015-10-17 08:43:50] blue23 : Hello. Is this group active?
[2015-10-17 08:43:58] ilikepies69 : dear bitmex can we have persistent charts?
[2015-10-17 08:44:39] BitMEX_Arthur : ilikepies69: what do you mean
[2015-10-17 08:45:56] ilikepies69 : BitMEX_Arthur: drawings on respective charts don't get wiped when I log out.
[2015-10-17 08:46:19] ilikepies69 : it would be super helpful
[2015-10-17 08:46:33] BitMEX_Arthur : ilikepies69: I would suggest you use TradingView.com we are working with them to get our symbols working again
[2015-10-17 08:46:41] BitMEX_Arthur : Cryptowat.ch also has us listed
[2015-10-17 08:46:53] SnackyCoins : afiak the tradingview plugin does not allow for that sort of thing
[2015-10-17 08:47:01] ilikepies69 : I do/did but too much missing data
[2015-10-17 08:47:05] SnackyCoins : you'd have to do it on tradingview directly
[2015-10-17 08:47:43] SnackyCoins : unless mex has a super special chart api :) that costs money
[2015-10-17 08:48:44] SnackyCoins : hey arthur, FOMO or NO'MO?
[2015-10-17 08:49:09] ilikepies69 : BitMEX_Arthur: it would also allow a one-stop-shop when fast action takes place : )
[2015-10-17 08:49:35] BitMEX_Arthur : FOMO then c
[2015-10-17 08:50:36] BitMEX_Arthur : crash
[2015-10-17 08:50:45] BitMEX_Arthur : light volume on this final attempt at 27
[2015-10-17 08:50:51] ilikepies69 : BitMEX_Arthur: also is xbt24h available on cryptowatch & tv?
[2015-10-17 08:50:51] BitMEX_Arthur : 27
[2015-10-17 08:51:03] BitMEX_Arthur : 270
[2015-10-17 08:52:00] SnackyCoins : gonna be a long day :)
[2015-10-17 08:52:19] SnackyCoins : maybe a long day shorting :)
[2015-10-17 08:57:01] macios15 : obvious trap
[2015-10-17 08:58:32] macios15 : going back to 1740 or its end of rally what you think
[2015-10-17 09:00:54] SnackyCoins : 4h kinda looks like shit
[2015-10-17 09:03:21] Matthew.v : YOLO 24 100sx
[2015-10-17 09:03:32] Guest73396 : Should I buy or sell 1 XBU Bitcoin futures today? a) buy
[2015-10-17 09:03:38] Guest73396 : a) buy
[2015-10-17 09:03:41] Guest73396 : b) sell
[2015-10-17 09:03:57] Matthew.v : you should trade your own account
[2015-10-17 09:04:19] blue23 : What do you mean?
[2015-10-17 09:04:42] Matthew.v : dont trade based off what other poeple say
[2015-10-17 09:04:54] Matthew.v : the only faster way to lose it is give it directly to them
[2015-10-17 09:05:45] Guest73396 : That I am already aware of : )
[2015-10-17 09:06:30] Guest73396 : Sort of
[2015-10-17 09:07:09] Matthew.v : I am hooked on xbt24h
[2015-10-17 09:08:04] VanCleef : is it good?
[2015-10-17 09:08:12] cengel : its amazing. better than sex
[2015-10-17 09:08:24] VanCleef : im still a virgin so i wouldn't know
[2015-10-17 09:08:26] Matthew.v : yes its going to buy me a vacation
[2015-10-17 09:33:18] blocklud : on XBT24H, can you set stop orders?
[2015-10-17 09:36:51] ethexio : When trying to close limit, it shows 0 contracts will be closed. I don't have an input into his many to close..
[2015-10-17 09:37:29] dorothy490 : ethexio yes its stupid
[2015-10-17 09:38:32] ethexio : What's up with that though? Can only close market?
[2015-10-17 09:38:36] BitMEX_Arthur : ethexio: Thanks for spotting that
[2015-10-17 09:39:01] dorothy490 : seriously, havent you guys spotted it by yourself earlier?
[2015-10-17 09:39:21] ethexio : My.pleasure @BitMEX_Arthur . What should I do?
[2015-10-17 09:39:23] dorothy490 : its also hard to esitmate how many contracts you might open
[2015-10-17 09:39:36] dorothy490 : with oyur balance, have to you excel for this
[2015-10-17 09:40:28] dorothy490 : and dont know how to close only half of position on market too
[2015-10-17 09:40:57] BitMEX_Arthur : If you want to close your order just submit a normal limit order
[2015-10-17 09:41:03] BitMEX_Arthur : for the number contracts and price you wish to close out at
[2015-10-17 09:41:11] Matthew.v : thats how I did it
[2015-10-17 09:43:03] dorothy490 : BitMEX_Arthur: you should have interface where user can type SL / TP for opened order
[2015-10-17 09:43:20] blocklud : ^
[2015-10-17 09:43:27] dorothy490 : similary to mt4
[2015-10-17 09:44:08] dorothy490 : current interface for order handling is quite poor
[2015-10-17 09:44:21] BitMEX_Arthur : SL / TP?
[2015-10-17 09:44:29] dorothy490 : stop loss / take profit
[2015-10-17 09:44:39] BitMEX_Arthur : like OCO order?
[2015-10-17 09:45:44] simonhorlick : I would like OCO
[2015-10-17 09:45:44] dorothy490 : no idea what is OCO. Basically if oyu have open order you should be able to setup "trigger" order which will close order if price reach X and close if price reach Y
[2015-10-17 09:46:14] dorothy490 : if we talking about isolated orders
[2015-10-17 09:46:48] dorothy490 : also I have no idea how in current interface go all in with all funds - you should provide leverage option with opening orders
[2015-10-17 09:46:50] Matthew.v : I think the issue is the language used may be confusing.
[2015-10-17 09:51:17] dorothy490 : for examle I want to go x30 with all funds or x2
[2015-10-17 09:53:47] jung1 : dorothy490: you can make something like trigger
[2015-10-17 09:54:32] jung1 : when you already have some contracts go to "Stop Limit" and there you can make it
[2015-10-17 09:54:44] jung1 : but first you have to buy them
[2015-10-17 10:01:40] dorothy490 : yeah and MT4 you can have pending order with already setted up SL TP
[2015-10-17 10:02:43] macios15 : crash, fcuk i need to take that profit from daily first
[2015-10-17 10:03:51] laisee : add limit for buy(sell) pice and another for sell(buy) price where you want to exit?
[2015-10-17 10:04:45] jung1 : XBTZ15 XBT (122.82%)
[2015-10-17 10:04:52] jung1 : :)
[2015-10-17 10:05:30] macios15 : its looks like perfect bubble that was the end of bull trap