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[2016-10-31 23:32:48] wurstgelee : *seen
[2016-10-31 23:32:51] EA_FTW : wurstgelee: but the price here isn't responding that much
[2016-10-31 23:32:57] wurstgelee : doesnt matter
[2016-10-31 23:33:01] wurstgelee : lastPrice marking
[2016-10-31 23:33:09] CapitalGains : longs at the bottom when the high longs are liquidated, shorts at the top when the low shorts are liquidated.
[2016-10-31 23:33:24] EA_FTW : Guess it still doubled. Price marking hasn't started though?
[2016-10-31 23:33:27] wurstgelee : just buy up a few btc, mc all shorts who havent an insane amount of margin
[2016-10-31 23:33:31] wurstgelee : get ADL'ed on they way
[2016-10-31 23:33:37] wurstgelee : so u dont even need bids to dump on
[2016-10-31 23:33:41] coinrun : ZEC idoent look like its done yet imo
[2016-10-31 23:33:47] coinrun : doesnt*
[2016-10-31 23:34:22] EA_FTW : coinrun: I can hope
[2016-10-31 23:35:11] wurstgelee : dumped another .2
[2016-10-31 23:35:16] CapitalGains : I don't see any reason for the Polo ZEC madness to end until there are several 1000 ZECs to dump on the market
[2016-10-31 23:35:17] wurstgelee : looks like its dying now
[2016-10-31 23:35:26] wurstgelee : *for now
[2016-10-31 23:35:28] coinrun : CapitalGains: agreed
[2016-10-31 23:35:34] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: yep
[2016-10-31 23:35:42] wurstgelee : isnt that awesome? ;)
[2016-10-31 23:35:55] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: you dumping Nicehash mined ZEC on Polo?
[2016-10-31 23:36:02] EA_FTW : So close, yet so far - https://zcash.nicehash.com/balances (sort by confirmed balance)
[2016-10-31 23:36:02] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: yep
[2016-10-31 23:36:31] wurstgelee : EA_FTW: that link does only work for you ;)
[2016-10-31 23:36:47] wurstgelee : it does for me too, but it shows me my stuff ;)
[2016-10-31 23:36:47] CapitalGains : That's pretty awesome. It's not every day you sell two alts for 4.4 BTC
[2016-10-31 23:36:56] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: indeed
[2016-10-31 23:37:06] wurstgelee : in fact....the first day for me
[2016-10-31 23:37:08] wurstgelee : never had 42 coin
[2016-10-31 23:37:09] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 23:37:33] wurstgelee : or Onecoin iirc?
[2016-10-31 23:37:47] wurstgelee : that shitcoin, summer 2014 iirc, that only had a supply of 1
[2016-10-31 23:37:51] EA_FTW : wurstgelee: oh, I thought that was a public list of all ZEC payouts from nicehash
[2016-10-31 23:38:01] wurstgelee : EA_FTW: oh it is?
[2016-10-31 23:38:03] wurstgelee : sec
[2016-10-31 23:38:17] EA_FTW : maybe you have to be logged in, idk
[2016-10-31 23:38:30] wurstgelee : EA_FTW: ouch
[2016-10-31 23:38:33] nope : CapitalGains: for any other altcoin i would agree but this one is different, never has there been a clone worth much more than the original, call me dumb but i believe anyone with half a brain can see where this story ends
[2016-10-31 23:38:35] wurstgelee : screenshot it
[2016-10-31 23:38:56] wurstgelee : good for laughs after some time has passed ;)
[2016-10-31 23:39:03] EA_FTW : I have, got all the evidence
[2016-10-31 23:39:30] EA_FTW : still time for a fairy tale ending - pump to 10 and pull the trigger at absolute peak ;-)
[2016-10-31 23:39:43] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-10-31 23:39:58] CapitalGains : I'll always remember selling 0.0001 ZEC at a price of 250 BTC
[2016-10-31 23:40:13] nope : CapitalGains: no way
[2016-10-31 23:40:27] EA_FTW : CapitalGains: wow, that is a Capital G Gain!
[2016-10-31 23:40:33] wurstgelee : fuck
[2016-10-31 23:40:42] wurstgelee : forgot about polos withdrawal limit....
[2016-10-31 23:40:45] CapitalGains : During the first 15 minutes when there was only 1 ZEC on Polo
[2016-10-31 23:41:06] EA_FTW : it's like the bitcoin pizza in reverse
[2016-10-31 23:41:18] wurstgelee : EA_FTW: yes
[2016-10-31 23:41:21] CapitalGains : A 0.0001 ZEC pizza
[2016-10-31 23:41:22] messiaen8844 : the guy who bought december futures to 780 must be worried now ;)
[2016-10-31 23:41:32] messiaen8844 : we'll know it's time to buy when we see the liquidation
[2016-10-31 23:42:04] EA_FTW : REKTasaurus incoming?
[2016-10-31 23:42:55] EA_FTW : messiaen8844: looks like he spent relatively little though? Where was orderbook then?
[2016-10-31 23:43:46] EA_FTW : a market order that went horribly wrong (someone pull the rug from under him at last second!?)
[2016-10-31 23:45:58] javierstone : what kind of trade would i use if i want to go long on XBT once it hits a certain price
[2016-10-31 23:47:22] sleger : javierstone: lower or higher price ?
[2016-10-31 23:47:33] EA_FTW : wurstgelee: still not over - got mine incoming at 2/24..
[2016-10-31 23:47:48] javierstone : lower
[2016-10-31 23:47:49] wurstgelee : 4'/24
[2016-10-31 23:47:51] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 23:47:54] javierstone : @sleger lower
[2016-10-31 23:47:56] wurstgelee : .13 only tho
[2016-10-31 23:48:00] sleger : limit order then
[2016-10-31 23:48:03] wurstgelee : sending the fractions as soon as available atm
[2016-10-31 23:48:05] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-31 23:48:29] javierstone : when i try to make the trade at a lower price it says i can't because i would liquidiate immediately
[2016-10-31 23:48:34] javierstone : sleger:
[2016-10-31 23:49:01] jordanbitfort : OKC wall at 4800 about to go down, then we will see liquidations on xbtz16
[2016-10-31 23:49:17] coinrun : whales going to rotate that small zcash float for as long as possible
[2016-10-31 23:49:24] wurstgelee : those paying 3x or 4x the price at nicehash are already fucked
[2016-10-31 23:49:46] wurstgelee : takes ages until they have those overpaid hashes on an exchanges
[2016-10-31 23:49:49] wurstgelee : also nethash jumped
[2016-10-31 23:49:54] EA_FTW : wurstgelee: nice, this is my 1.2ZEC motherlode - all pure profit. 3/24
[2016-10-31 23:50:05] wurstgelee : nice :D
[2016-10-31 23:50:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 3500 @ 730.47
[2016-10-31 23:50:33] wurstgelee : yep, i am 2 blocks ahead
[2016-10-31 23:50:50] wurstgelee : 2.4 all good
[2016-10-31 23:50:54] CapitalGains : How long is it taking you guys to mine this? How much did you pay? (24h right?)
[2016-10-31 23:51:55] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: mined for ~18h, burned 2.7 btc, mined 4.05 zec, dumping for currently 5.48939363 BTC and counting
[2016-10-31 23:51:58] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 23:52:11] wurstgelee : almost all dumped now tho, .4 zec left
[2016-10-31 23:52:30] CapitalGains : That's not the worst RoI I've ever heard of
[2016-10-31 23:52:39] wurstgelee : not really
[2016-10-31 23:52:52] wurstgelee : would have been slightly profitable @ .7
[2016-10-31 23:52:58] wurstgelee : that pump helped tho...
[2016-10-31 23:52:59] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 23:53:06] EA_FTW : CapitalGains: 1BTC, mined 1.8ZEC over 3 hours between 3 and 6. Best to put hashrate limit at infiinity and price reasonably high in queue to burn through BTC as quick as possible
[2016-10-31 23:53:41] wurstgelee : oh right, i used fuck all methoed: 50k hashes fixed order, 50k standard in top 10 orders
[2016-10-31 23:53:43] EA_FTW : Just got in before the pump so was very lucky (was hoping for 20% profit otherwise)
[2016-10-31 23:53:47] wurstgelee : to burn as quickly as really possible
[2016-10-31 23:53:48] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 23:54:02] CapitalGains : On Friday night when the first ZEC was dumped, someone put in a bid at 2 BTC and got a tiny fraction. Then the price shot up to 3200 BTC (and I presume he sold to make 1600x profit.)
[2016-10-31 23:54:11] wurstgelee : well..could have put limit higher but i wanted a constant rate
[2016-10-31 23:54:32] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: possible
[2016-10-31 23:54:54] EA_FTW : CapitalGains: yeah, I don't think anyone made more than about $10000 on Polo during the megapump as the volume was quite low
[2016-10-31 23:54:54] wurstgelee : probably a happy guy now
[2016-10-31 23:55:26] wurstgelee : if that is the case, then we had a multiple of that money in play here...
[2016-10-31 23:55:27] wurstgelee : same time
[2016-10-31 23:55:40] CapitalGains : I think the market depth of 1 ZEC was around 150 BTC at the peak.
[2016-10-31 23:56:01] CapitalGains : But I don't think anyone owned a whole ZEC at the time
[2016-10-31 23:56:25] wurstgelee : probably not. well...pooladmins could do it...
[2016-10-31 23:56:26] wurstgelee : easily
[2016-10-31 23:56:34] CapitalGains : Shorting on Bitmex at 10 BTC, now that was an opportunity I regret missing
[2016-10-31 23:56:51] EA_FTW : yeah, vol was only about 1000BTC total in time it was above 100BTC prive
[2016-10-31 23:57:07] wurstgelee : grab first mined zec, send....once required confirmations are reached, u have enough in fees and can replace the first coins
[2016-10-31 23:57:17] wurstgelee : user can withdraw
[2016-10-31 23:57:17] sleger : CapitalGains: I did sell 1@10 but then the admin came here and said they would remove the cap so i bought it back and lost lots of potential profits
[2016-10-31 23:57:17] wurstgelee : np
[2016-10-31 23:57:20] EA_FTW : CapitalGains: yeah, I hesitated and lost the opportunity, still made 2BTC as a consolation prize though ;-)
[2016-10-31 23:57:59] CapitalGains : sleger: sucks that you lost the profit, but buying it back was definitely the right choice
[2016-10-31 23:58:01] EA_FTW : 8/24 - hang in there ZEC..
[2016-10-31 23:58:10] wurstgelee : someone must have lost a shitload here...really a shitload
[2016-10-31 23:58:19] wurstgelee : we went all the way up from 1 to 8 until adlk happened
[2016-10-31 23:58:20] EA_FTW : rapidtrades?
[2016-10-31 23:58:26] wurstgelee : today it took only a simple double
[2016-10-31 23:58:36] wurstgelee : someone with really deep pockets must have lost a lot of margin...
[2016-10-31 23:58:47] wurstgelee : no, rapidtrades doesnt have that money
[2016-10-31 23:58:57] EA_FTW : right
[2016-10-31 23:59:09] EA_FTW : nice buywall at 2.3, going up?
[2016-10-31 23:59:14] wurstgelee : he is whining about his long from 3 for 2 days now...
[2016-10-31 23:59:22] wurstgelee : 1 contract
[2016-10-31 23:59:24] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 23:59:28] EA_FTW : nope, looks like it got scoffed!
[2016-10-31 23:59:52] EA_FTW : wurstgelee: yeah, how much did he lose there?
[2016-11-01 00:00:29] wurstgelee : i dont know but i know its a least a multiple of those 10k u mentioned earlier
[2016-11-01 00:00:30] CapitalGains : I vaguely remember something about long at 3
[2016-11-01 00:00:45] wurstgelee : *at
[2016-11-01 00:01:28] EA_FTW : ouch
[2016-11-01 00:02:07] EA_FTW : ..11/24..
[2016-11-01 00:03:54] CapitalGains : I really feel for people who short without realising what they're getting into. I myself shorted several weeks ago, early days, at 0.08, but fortunately pulled out at 0.1. Could have lost 10 BTC! I was also tempted to short at 2 on Friday, but again I was lucky. Learned my lesson from other people's mistakes now - I won't touch a short.
[2016-11-01 00:04:12] wurstgelee : not in that kind of market
[2016-11-01 00:04:28] wurstgelee : zero supply combined with insta-add on polo was a perfect storm
[2016-11-01 00:04:53] CapitalGains : Long on the other hand... 1x margin... I'll touch that while the going's good
[2016-11-01 00:05:09] wurstgelee : yep. 1x long is relatively safe
[2016-11-01 00:05:29] wurstgelee : i dont understand why anone would do the opposite...
[2016-11-01 00:05:33] wurstgelee : *anyone
[2016-11-01 00:05:53] CapitalGains : Well there's widespread belief that ZEC will be worth 0.1 when things calm down
[2016-11-01 00:06:01] EA_FTW : alts do tend to have a pattern where they start on a pump and then slowly fade. Can always get caught out by whale pumps when shorting though
[2016-11-01 00:06:08] wurstgelee : thats why it wont go down that far probably
[2016-11-01 00:06:09] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-11-01 00:06:09] CapitalGains : So you think, oh, it's at 4x the price, let's short
[2016-11-01 00:06:40] wurstgelee : EA_FTW: works almost always...zec isnt safe for months tho
[2016-11-01 00:06:44] wurstgelee : for shorting
[2016-11-01 00:06:53] wurstgelee : 300k on dec 30%, dev & vc funds included
[2016-11-01 00:06:59] wurstgelee : thats still nothing
[2016-11-01 00:07:15] CapitalGains : Yes indeed. I think long < 0.4 is safe for a while still.
[2016-11-01 00:07:19] EA_FTW : CapitalGains: I think we should really wait until the supply is mature though (like 100,000 zec)
[2016-11-01 00:07:23] wurstgelee : let half of that be on polo...150k....
[2016-11-01 00:07:26] wurstgelee : whales playground
[2016-11-01 00:07:27] wurstgelee : still
[2016-11-01 00:07:35] CapitalGains : EA_FTW: And then?
[2016-11-01 00:07:47] wurstgelee : 100000 sec is still nothing
[2016-11-01 00:07:52] wurstgelee : 20k of that vc and devs
[2016-11-01 00:07:58] wurstgelee : ~30% in wallets, long term etc..
[2016-11-01 00:08:01] wurstgelee : leaves 50k
[2016-11-01 00:08:02] wurstgelee : nothing
[2016-11-01 00:08:16] wurstgelee : spread on different exchanges too...
[2016-11-01 00:08:19] CapitalGains : I doubt 50k could pump to 3 BTC so easily though
[2016-11-01 00:08:22] wurstgelee : so maybe 30 on polo
[2016-11-01 00:08:43] EA_FTW : yeah, I guess real maturity isn't until millions are released. ZEC is an anomaly because no premine, and publicity from the start
[2016-11-01 00:09:01] wurstgelee : it has to be way higher than .1 to be interesting
[2016-11-01 00:09:03] wurstgelee : for polo
[2016-11-01 00:09:26] wurstgelee : 50k @ 0.1 would be 5k btc "polo cap"
[2016-11-01 00:09:28] wurstgelee : not enough mass
[2016-11-01 00:09:35] wurstgelee : price needs to be way higher
[2016-11-01 00:09:37] EA_FTW : most coins start with a sizeable fraction of total coins
[2016-11-01 00:09:56] CapitalGains : The no pre-mine approach of ZEC and the instant hype makes it a wild card... I might eventually hold one or two.
[2016-11-01 00:10:09] wurstgelee : whals need volume. volume needs market volume
[2016-11-01 00:10:10] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 00:10:12] CapitalGains : I'd estimate Polo will play with 0.5 - 1.3 or so for the next few months
[2016-11-01 00:10:13] wurstgelee : *e
[2016-11-01 00:10:21] EA_FTW : CapitalGains: certainly the perfect release model for an uberpump!
[2016-11-01 00:10:24] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-01 00:10:36] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: dunno if .5 but .1 is too low
[2016-11-01 00:10:39] wurstgelee : wont happen
[2016-11-01 00:11:00] EA_FTW : ..16/24.. Can I get 2BTC/ZEC?
[2016-11-01 00:11:06] wurstgelee : .3 isnt a bad entry for a long if if u hold until dec 30
[2016-11-01 00:11:07] wurstgelee : imo
[2016-11-01 00:11:19] CapitalGains : Yes, I think you will get 2.
[2016-11-01 00:11:45] wurstgelee : still a lot guesswork ofc, still fucking early in the game
[2016-11-01 00:12:12] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: Agreed. But why would you hold - and can you even hold without getting adl when the shorts are liquidated? Gotta keep buying back.
[2016-11-01 00:12:15] wurstgelee : but from what i have seen, i like that game
[2016-11-01 00:12:16] wurstgelee : a lot
[2016-11-01 00:12:17] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 00:12:49] CapitalGains : It's the first time for me that trading has become significantly more profitable than my normal work...
[2016-11-01 00:12:50] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: i had 3 great result with patiently building longs and letting them get ADL
[2016-11-01 00:13:02] wurstgelee : i tend to buy back to early usually
[2016-11-01 00:13:13] wurstgelee : *too
[2016-11-01 00:13:31] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: lol....oh yes
[2016-11-01 00:13:44] wurstgelee : @ more profitable
[2016-11-01 00:14:10] wurstgelee : significantly is far from being an exaggeration tbh
[2016-11-01 00:14:12] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 00:15:25] CapitalGains : The greatest temptation is to go long when the price approaches 1 BTC (I get flashbacks of Friday). But I don't/haven't/won't. Although I'd cry if it broke through 1 again without having a long position.
[2016-11-01 00:15:28] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: will prob be the first year i have to also pay significant capital gains taxes...
[2016-11-01 00:15:41] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: yep. 1 is dangerous...REALLy dangerous
[2016-11-01 00:15:49] CapitalGains : Haha me too if I'm not careful
[2016-11-01 00:15:53] nope : CapitalGains: yup, made more in the last 72hrs than I will over the next two months at my full time job
[2016-11-01 00:16:23] wurstgelee : nope: 10 months here. net salary after taxes
[2016-11-01 00:16:24] wurstgelee : :P
[2016-11-01 00:16:34] EA_FTW : Wow!
[2016-11-01 00:16:38] wurstgelee : since friday
[2016-11-01 00:16:44] nope : wurstgelee: congrats brotha!
[2016-11-01 00:16:49] laisee : time to retire from day job?
[2016-11-01 00:16:50] EA_FTW : I've got pretty much no other income, so can say Infinity ;-)
[2016-11-01 00:16:59] wurstgelee : thanks
[2016-11-01 00:17:00] wurstgelee : also
[2016-11-01 00:17:04] wurstgelee : laisee: no way
[2016-11-01 00:17:07] wurstgelee : i love my job
[2016-11-01 00:17:09] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 00:17:15] zanza : congrats on your casino wins
[2016-11-01 00:17:17] wurstgelee : i can trade all day...it admin
[2016-11-01 00:17:18] wurstgelee : :P
[2016-11-01 00:17:39] CapitalGains : Congrats! Just don't fall victim to the gambler's curse - cash in on a lot of the profit and put it somewhere safer. Not all of it, of course.
[2016-11-01 00:17:40] wurstgelee : zanza: i was casino, nothing else
[2016-11-01 00:17:52] laisee : heh, I work IT also. Quite flexible re usee of tablets and phones for trading
[2016-11-01 00:18:04] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: i have witdrawn >80% the next day
[2016-11-01 00:18:07] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 00:18:20] wurstgelee : laisee: yep
[2016-11-01 00:18:23] wurstgelee : indeed
[2016-11-01 00:18:39] wurstgelee : 2 displays for work and 1 for bitmex/charts
[2016-11-01 00:18:40] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 00:18:50] laisee : ;-)
[2016-11-01 00:18:51] EA_FTW : Cool, I'm going to cashout my winnings for a change (normally just increase my ETH holdings)
[2016-11-01 00:19:03] nope : zanza: i don't gamble, but i will go all in on sure things, this was the closest thing to a layup i've ever seen in my life, and i've been trading since the dotcom bust in the late 90's
[2016-11-01 00:19:14] CapitalGains : Good good. I haven't hit my target profit, but once I do I'm going to withdraw a chunk to good old fiat.
[2016-11-01 00:19:28] CapitalGains : nope: what's a layup?
[2016-11-01 00:19:59] wurstgelee : something rare i'd assume ;)
[2016-11-01 00:20:26] zanza : an easy shot
[2016-11-01 00:20:29] EA_FTW : Hmm, only 10BTC to 2.5.. has it got anymore legs?
[2016-11-01 00:20:33] nope : wurstgelee: american basketball, easiest points you can get
[2016-11-01 00:20:35] laisee : nah, its the easiest shot in basketball game.
[2016-11-01 00:20:46] wurstgelee : nope: right :)
[2016-11-01 00:21:29] wurstgelee : thats why i know someone lost a shitload btw. i had a bunch of longs open since .7 or something and they all got ADL @ 8.something iirc
[2016-11-01 00:21:30] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 00:21:50] CapitalGains : Jealous ;)
[2016-11-01 00:22:09] wurstgelee : i would be 2 tbh
[2016-11-01 00:22:26] wurstgelee : so, a big part of that was luck anyways...expected adl way earlier.
[2016-11-01 00:22:32] wurstgelee : but hey, its a casino ;)
[2016-11-01 00:22:39] wurstgelee : you need luck sometimes
[2016-11-01 00:23:06] CapitalGains : Or no pre-mine, in this case
[2016-11-01 00:23:11] wurstgelee : hehe, yep
[2016-11-01 00:23:32] wurstgelee : it helped that i was convinced from day 1 that this would happen. ;)
[2016-11-01 00:23:54] EA_FTW : 23/24.. seems to be teetering on a knife edge
[2016-11-01 00:23:58] wurstgelee : well, not exactly this, but i expected 5 btc as peak or sth
[2016-11-01 00:24:05] wurstgelee : EA_FTW: oohhh
[2016-11-01 00:24:07] wurstgelee : mom
[2016-11-01 00:24:18] EA_FTW : everyone's waiting
[2016-11-01 00:24:43] wurstgelee : EA_FTW: dumped
[2016-11-01 00:24:45] wurstgelee : thank you
[2016-11-01 00:24:52] wurstgelee : i forgot ;)
[2016-11-01 00:25:54] nope : can someone dump this to the low 30's so I can break even and go to the titty bar?
[2016-11-01 00:25:59] coingreed : wurstgelee: hey if i may now what are you guys talking about ? is it zec
[2016-11-01 00:26:09] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-01 00:26:12] sleger : coingreed: no factom
[2016-11-01 00:26:12] EA_FTW : wurstgelee: np. Gosh this is a long block!
[2016-11-01 00:26:27] wurstgelee : EA_FTW: 2 will hold :)
[2016-11-01 00:27:39] EA_FTW : wurstgelee: dumped at 2.18 :-) Mission accomplished!
[2016-11-01 00:27:58] CapitalGains : Good stuff.
[2016-11-01 00:28:02] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-01 00:28:02] EA_FTW : 1BTC -> 4.2BTC All in a day's work ;-)
[2016-11-01 00:28:13] EA_FTW : wurstgelee: thanks for the nicehash recommendation!
[2016-11-01 00:28:21] wurstgelee : np :)
[2016-11-01 00:28:33] wurstgelee : 1 to 4.2 is impressive
[2016-11-01 00:28:55] wurstgelee : well, thats happens when u patiently wait for your strategically well placed orders i guess
[2016-11-01 00:28:59] wurstgelee : *-s
[2016-11-01 00:29:58] coingreed : hey how long does btc deposit usually take here?
[2016-11-01 00:30:38] jordanbitfort : 2 hrs for me
[2016-11-01 00:30:39] wurstgelee : sooo...are we replaying that thing again tomorrow? bottomning all day .3 to .4, ADL party later? :p
[2016-11-01 00:32:21] laisee : then off to some t1tty bar ... ;-)
[2016-11-01 00:33:30] wurstgelee : 8)
[2016-11-01 00:34:14] nope : lol
[2016-11-01 00:35:10] coingreed : wurstgelee: hey is the zec game still good?
[2016-11-01 00:35:15] laisee : life of a ZEC trader ... its not 4 everyone
[2016-11-01 00:35:31] wurstgelee : coingreed: mining?
[2016-11-01 00:35:35] wurstgelee : or here?
[2016-11-01 00:36:29] coingreed : wurstgelee: here
[2016-11-01 00:37:15] wurstgelee : coingreed: lol, dunno. :) but as long as there is no marking besides "last price" here, its likely we will see a replay soon i guess
[2016-11-01 00:38:16] wurstgelee : this has nothing to do with trading anyways, its pure gambling atm
[2016-11-01 00:39:22] coingreed : wurstgelee: yeah i know, do u do long for now or short?
[2016-11-01 00:39:35] coingreed : wait w
[2016-11-01 00:39:42] wurstgelee : i want to keep my btc
[2016-11-01 00:39:49] wurstgelee : i would never short zec atm
[2016-11-01 00:39:49] coingreed : what do u mean by marking?
[2016-11-01 00:40:11] wurstgelee : reference price is currently last price
[2016-11-01 00:40:21] wurstgelee : =price of last executed trade
[2016-11-01 00:40:37] wurstgelee : usually mark price is tied to some reference exchange or index
[2016-11-01 00:40:41] coingreed : wurstgelee: ohh okay
[2016-11-01 00:40:41] wurstgelee : usually polo for alts
[2016-11-01 00:41:20] wurstgelee : but apparently its unsafe to use polo as and index currently and its much safer to play "the game"
[2016-11-01 00:41:21] wurstgelee : :P
[2016-11-01 00:42:00] wurstgelee : for further informations, please ask one of the admins. i dont understand it ;)
[2016-11-01 00:42:34] coingreed : wurstgelee: Haha loll thanks for the input anyway
[2016-11-01 00:42:42] wurstgelee : np ;)
[2016-11-01 00:51:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1 @ 700.90 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-01 01:03:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 110868 @ 703.77 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-11-01 01:03:26] chromaticcr1 : Every time there is a pump / dump in zec I am asleep. Seems like the whole game is targeting non-asian noobs
[2016-11-01 01:06:45] mjones : it's hard to get out of a big position if price is going the wrong direction on you
[2016-11-01 01:09:37] chromaticcr1 : mjones: just switch it to max leverage instead of cross, let the system handles the rest
[2016-11-01 01:13:29] jordanbitfort : you can do it BTC! about to start pushing highs again
[2016-11-01 01:32:20] BitMEX_Sam : FYI: new feature incoming; drag to amend price on the chart. More details soon
[2016-11-01 02:27:42] mjones : xbtz16 pumping
[2016-11-01 02:28:03] mjones : when shorts get trapped part 6
[2016-11-01 02:30:29] micmix : I'm short xbtz16 and I'm not worried
[2016-11-01 02:33:07] sleger : I was long and getting short now
[2016-11-01 02:33:34] micmix : 666 orders? ;-)
[2016-11-01 02:34:11] sleger : For good luck
[2016-11-01 02:35:01] blacktuesday : closed xbz16 long at 764
[2016-11-01 02:35:04] blacktuesday : :)
[2016-11-01 02:35:15] micmix : someone just bought 20k @ 764
[2016-11-01 02:35:26] blacktuesday : that was my sell :)
[2016-11-01 02:35:59] blacktuesday : I was long from the dip
[2016-11-01 02:36:02] micmix : and main MM back, hedged now I guess
[2016-11-01 02:37:30] sleger : Why did the premium go up so much?
[2016-11-01 02:38:26] blacktuesday : I have no idea, all of a sudden i saw it up over $10 and I put in a sell order :)
[2016-11-01 02:38:56] micmix : someone bought a sh1t ton
[2016-11-01 02:53:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 12500 @ 749.27
[2016-11-01 02:53:26] messiaen8844 : gee, what's that action on z16?
[2016-11-01 02:55:30] arbitrage001 : messiaen8844: premium was too high
[2016-11-01 02:55:36] arbitrage001 : trader noticed
[2016-11-01 02:55:43] arbitrage001 : and short/hedge more
[2016-11-01 02:56:12] arbitrage001 : messiaen8844: opps, wrong contract
[2016-11-01 02:58:08] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 610 @ 709.52
[2016-11-01 02:58:53] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1000 @ 710.56
[2016-11-01 02:58:53] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3000 @ 710.69
[2016-11-01 03:21:18] gafs : something there to talk about ?
[2016-11-01 03:23:20] chromaticcr1 : i guess everyone is tired after the pump few hours ago
[2016-11-01 03:23:49] chromaticcr1 : which i slept through... with my orders all filled :P
[2016-11-01 03:24:01] gafs : i made some profits
[2016-11-01 03:24:07] arbitrage001 : chromaticcr1: which contract? short or long?
[2016-11-01 03:24:09] gafs : 32%
[2016-11-01 03:24:30] gafs : i was long with full leverage
[2016-11-01 03:24:33] gafs : =P
[2016-11-01 03:24:44] chromaticcr1 : shorting all the way from 0.66 - 0.948
[2016-11-01 03:25:16] chromaticcr1 : the hidden long order at 0.4331 was me, this morning
[2016-11-01 03:25:45] chromaticcr1 : * i mean 2 hours ago, morning in HK
[2016-11-01 03:26:04] gafs : what coins you guys trade
[2016-11-01 03:26:06] arbitrage001 : closing short position?
[2016-11-01 03:26:18] arbitrage001 : gafs: zec
[2016-11-01 03:26:28] chromaticcr1 : yeah, partially
[2016-11-01 03:26:47] gafs : arbitrage001: the crazy zec,kk,it looks dangerous in the long run
[2016-11-01 03:26:51] QuantFocus : you guys this this btc run has been overextended?
[2016-11-01 03:26:59] arbitrage001 : gafs: only for short
[2016-11-01 03:27:15] arbitrage001 : gafs: unleveraged long can sleep thru the night
[2016-11-01 03:27:39] gafs : arbitrage001: i am new here
[2016-11-01 03:27:55] gafs : arbitrage001: i use poloniex,i am just trying for some days
[2016-11-01 03:28:18] arbitrage001 : gafs: have exp trading alt coin?
[2016-11-01 03:28:43] gafs : arbitrage001: yes,i have made a lot of profits in the eth boom
[2016-11-01 03:28:49] gafs : arbitrage001: 418 %
[2016-11-01 03:28:55] arbitrage001 : gafs: what about down cycle?
[2016-11-01 03:29:08] arbitrage001 : eth was rare case
[2016-11-01 03:29:30] gafs : arbitrage001: so,i have traded most longs,
[2016-11-01 03:29:44] gafs : i am only a few months trying shorts
[2016-11-01 03:30:00] arbitrage001 : on eth?
[2016-11-01 03:30:09] arbitrage001 : or zec?
[2016-11-01 03:30:16] gafs : yes,the first was when the hack attacked
[2016-11-01 03:30:27] micmix : shorts are more tricky on alts
[2016-11-01 03:30:32] gafs : i had to short it,altought i knew it would come back
[2016-11-01 03:30:44] arbitrage001 : micmix: yea, only take 1 wrong move to get wiped out
[2016-11-01 03:31:20] gafs : indeed i have made a lot of money,because i began investing with btc at 200 usd
[2016-11-01 03:32:06] micmix : good for you, make sure to put some btc aside, don't trade with all
[2016-11-01 03:32:36] gafs : i have made some cashouts at around 500us
[2016-11-01 03:32:56] gafs : to buy some trading books,and a new pc
[2016-11-01 03:33:15] gafs : and to take a brake for my wife
[2016-11-01 03:33:39] gafs : just some weeks at home to rest a b
[2016-11-01 03:33:57] micmix : brake for your wife or from your wife? ;-)
[2016-11-01 03:34:11] gafs : for her
[2016-11-01 03:34:14] gafs : kkk
[2016-11-01 03:34:38] gafs : she was working as a crazy to keep up with the bills
[2016-11-01 03:34:44] gafs : i give her some help
[2016-11-01 03:34:51] gafs : gave*
[2016-11-01 03:36:11] gafs : some toughts on lisk ?,i had invested in the ico,but sold it when it was 48 cents
[2016-11-01 03:36:18] arbitrage001 : gafs: which country are you from?
[2016-11-01 03:36:29] gafs : brazil
[2016-11-01 03:36:40] micmix : lisk will be removed from here on Friday
[2016-11-01 03:36:54] arbitrage001 : how is the country as a whole doing?
[2016-11-01 03:36:54] micmix : it's pretty much dead for now
[2016-11-01 03:37:41] gafs : not that bad,the pace where i live is mainly agricultural land,and there is always money around growing food
[2016-11-01 03:37:48] gafs : place
[2016-11-01 03:38:18] arbitrage001 : gafs: land price is reasonable?
[2016-11-01 03:38:39] arbitrage001 : how much per acre for agriculture land
[2016-11-01 03:38:45] gafs : yes,for our currrency here it is
[2016-11-01 03:38:58] arbitrage001 : a bit lucky
[2016-11-01 03:39:07] gafs : around 40.000u$ 24.000²
[2016-11-01 03:39:21] arbitrage001 : agriculture land in my country went up 10 times in less than 5 years
[2016-11-01 03:39:33] gafs : in our local currency 120000 reai
[2016-11-01 03:39:52] gafs : it went up 20 folds in 6 years here
[2016-11-01 03:40:18] arbitrage001 : the population can still afford the price increase?
[2016-11-01 03:40:38] arbitrage001 : in term of cost of living, food, etc
[2016-11-01 03:40:41] gafs : we are in the tipping point,sales stopped
[2016-11-01 03:40:52] gafs : about 8 months ag
[2016-11-01 03:41:10] gafs : i am sure prices may come down
[2016-11-01 03:41:25] gafs : atleast in the cities,i am not sure for the crop fields
[2016-11-01 03:41:34] arbitrage001 : gafs: hard to say
[2016-11-01 03:41:57] arbitrage001 : central bank always bail out bank, upper class/financial
[2016-11-01 03:41:58] gafs : in 2009 we sold a house for around 7000u$
[2016-11-01 03:42:10] gafs : now its worth atleast 50.000u$
[2016-11-01 03:42:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.548218
[2016-11-01 03:42:29] chromaticcr1 : lol c'mon
[2016-11-01 03:42:42] arbitrage001 : chromaticcr1: short it lol
[2016-11-01 03:42:52] arbitrage001 : that was quick
[2016-11-01 03:43:36] gafs : so back then we bough a car,very good here,with that money
[2016-11-01 03:43:43] gafs : now our car is worth 5000
[2016-11-01 03:43:58] arbitrage001 : gafs: only car? for work?
[2016-11-01 03:44:09] arbitrage001 : car is usually a bad investment
[2016-11-01 03:44:18] arbitrage001 : depreciate too fast
[2016-11-01 03:44:27] gafs : yes,i told dad to put it in land again
[2016-11-01 03:44:36] gafs : but his car was old,kk
[2016-11-01 03:44:42] gafs : from ww2
[2016-11-01 03:45:10] gafs : but we kept 2 huses
[2016-11-01 03:45:39] gafs : houses,dad is thinking of seelling one now,for around 60.000u$
[2016-11-01 03:45:50] arbitrage001 : house price in asia is out of controlled
[2016-11-01 03:45:58] gafs : we can buy 10 cars with thtat now
[2016-11-01 03:46:24] arbitrage001 : comparing house with land, land has better value
[2016-11-01 03:46:27] gafs : do you live in asia ?
[2016-11-01 03:46:31] arbitrage001 : if use for growing food
[2016-11-01 03:46:36] arbitrage001 : yes. malaysia here
[2016-11-01 03:46:55] gafs : it must be 10 in the morning there
[2016-11-01 03:46:58] gafs : ?
[2016-11-01 03:47:09] arbitrage001 : cost of renting is cheaper than cost of owning here
[2016-11-01 03:47:16] arbitrage001 : 11:47am
[2016-11-01 03:47:44] gafs : its passed one here,almost 2 into the tuesday
[2016-11-01 03:48:05] arbitrage001 : maybe you should rest
[2016-11-01 03:48:13] arbitrage001 : get a clear head before placing bet here
[2016-11-01 03:48:34] gafs : yes,but most the time i sleep during the da
[2016-11-01 03:48:36] gafs : kk
[2016-11-01 03:48:41] gafs : day
[2016-11-01 03:49:41] gafs : miss the times when i mined ltc
[2016-11-01 03:49:58] arbitrage001 : gafs: lol
[2016-11-01 03:49:58] gafs : now i cant mine any shit with my computer
[2016-11-01 03:50:04] arbitrage001 : i dont missed ltc mining
[2016-11-01 03:50:09] arbitrage001 : lost too much money
[2016-11-01 03:50:17] arbitrage001 : and deal with the troubles
[2016-11-01 03:50:32] gafs : we began here
[2016-11-01 03:50:47] gafs : there was a house with internet for people,i worked there
[2016-11-01 03:50:57] gafs : and we used to mine just for fun
[2016-11-01 03:51:06] coinrun : Nice cup on this zecz16 chart
[2016-11-01 03:51:28] arbitrage001 : coinrun: yes, short will panic soon i think
[2016-11-01 03:51:34] gafs : zec has only one way,and its dow
[2016-11-01 03:51:37] arbitrage001 : if spot price hit 5 btc
[2016-11-01 03:51:53] coinrun : Price is going back up on polo
[2016-11-01 03:52:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 4 @ 0.621550
[2016-11-01 03:52:05] coinrun : that was only the first of the 3 wave pump cucle
[2016-11-01 03:52:09] coinrun : cycle*
[2016-11-01 03:52:37] arbitrage001 : coinrun: normally, hype like this last for 3-6 months
[2016-11-01 03:52:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.687791
[2016-11-01 03:52:57] arbitrage001 : the contract expire in 2 months
[2016-11-01 03:53:05] coinrun : mayeb not months but i think this week it will pump
[2016-11-01 03:53:10] coinrun : maybe*
[2016-11-01 03:53:16] gafs : yes,it reminds me of a coin i bough,and the value disapeare
[2016-11-01 03:53:24] gafs : i think it was calle
[2016-11-01 03:53:32] gafs : neutron
[2016-11-01 03:53:35] coinrun : Thats what the technicals say
[2016-11-01 03:53:54] arbitrage001 : gafs: people profit not from fundamental
[2016-11-01 03:54:05] arbitrage001 : gafs: alt coin is a shark eat shark world
[2016-11-01 03:54:38] gafs : atleast i know the value i had invested is still in this world,somewhere
[2016-11-01 03:54:50] arbitrage001 : what is value?
[2016-11-01 03:54:55] gafs : maybe helping some o
[2016-11-01 03:55:03] coinrun : These trades are purely technical trades. and thats an inverted h&s bottom.
[2016-11-01 03:55:05] gafs : the energy
[2016-11-01 03:55:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.770087
[2016-11-01 03:55:16] coinrun : Resolves at 1.8BTC
[2016-11-01 03:55:52] gafs : is bitcoin going under 700 again ?
[2016-11-01 03:56:01] arbitrage001 : gafs: no one know
[2016-11-01 03:56:41] muirtastic : Mark price for ZEC is weird on here. Polo price is 2.20 and mark price is about .50 and now it's .77 with polo price being 2.20 again
[2016-11-01 03:56:46] gafs : crypto is at the same time so profitable and so risky
[2016-11-01 03:57:12] arbitrage001 : trading is a zero sum game
[2016-11-01 03:57:13] gafs : like asking that preety woman if you can sleep with her
[2016-11-01 03:57:27] arbitrage001 : if you are making profit, someone else is losing
[2016-11-01 03:57:44] coinrun : zecz16 is trading on its own... Its trading off the bullish structure in the chart
[2016-11-01 03:57:49] gafs : i lost in the beggining to,someone got very happy,
[2016-11-01 03:58:03] coinrun : muirtastic: that was to kind of answer your question
[2016-11-01 03:58:25] muirtastic : coinrun: I am talking about the mark price..not about the trading price on here
[2016-11-01 03:58:38] coinrun : theres no mark price
[2016-11-01 03:58:40] arbitrage001 : muirtastic: mark price has nothing to do with price
[2016-11-01 03:58:49] uncleyao : my zec was sale on itself.
[2016-11-01 03:58:54] arbitrage001 : it is invented by bitmex
[2016-11-01 03:59:18] muirtastic : arbitrage001: to say the mark price has nothing to do with the market price is an absurd statement
[2016-11-01 03:59:20] gafs : zec price in poloniex is just madness,i cant belie
[2016-11-01 03:59:38] gafs : it reminds me of lisk in the yobit
[2016-11-01 03:59:48] arbitrage001 : muirtastic: spot price has correlation with future price
[2016-11-01 03:59:59] coinrun : ZEC on polo is going for the second push of the 3 wave cycle
[2016-11-01 04:00:11] arbitrage001 : spot price isnt mark price
[2016-11-01 04:00:40] muirtastic : arbitrage001: who are you talking. I never said spot price is mark price. to say the mark price has nothing to do with the market price is an absurd statement
[2016-11-01 04:00:47] uncleyao : i put zec in 1btc the bitmex put my zec in the market at 0.57btc.
[2016-11-01 04:00:53] uncleyao : wtf
[2016-11-01 04:01:29] muirtastic : must not be many native english speakers on here
[2016-11-01 04:01:36] arbitrage001 : muirtastic: misunderstood you then. there is a "mark price" here invented by bitmex
[2016-11-01 04:01:48] chromaticcr1 : 姚師傅怎麼了
[2016-11-01 04:01:53] arbitrage001 : which is not market price
[2016-11-01 04:01:56] gafs : abacaxi
[2016-11-01 04:02:17] uncleyao : 我的zec被网站卖了
[2016-11-01 04:02:31] uncleyao : 我挂的1btc 他0.57就卖了我的
[2016-11-01 04:03:24] uncleyao : mb这网站还甩人下车 真jb黑
[2016-11-01 04:03:41] chromaticcr1 : uncleyao: 看看交易歷史，是不是有一欄叫做 Deleverage
[2016-11-01 04:03:56] chromaticcr1 : @BitMEX_Jinming
[2016-11-01 04:04:17] chromaticcr1 : uncleyao: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory 这一页上面的
[2016-11-01 04:04:37] BitMEX_Wally : uncleyao: There was an ADL event last night and longs were closed at 0.5793225
[2016-11-01 04:04:52] BitMEX_Jinming : uncleyao: 在爆仓单未能被市场消化是，我们会对高杠杆和高盈利仓位进行自动减仓。