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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-10-31 19:52:07] wurstgelee : prospecta: :D [2016-10-31 19:52:34] zecz : 1000 zec / day is not that much [2016-10-31 19:52:36] sleger : even a $ volume limit would make more sense than a zec limit [2016-10-31 19:52:41] BitMEX_Sam : Let me further reiterate that the two conditions are simply minimum criteria - we did not say that once both these are reached, we will immediately mark. [2016-10-31 19:52:44] zecz : wait a couple of weeks [2016-10-31 19:52:52] BitMEX_Sam : Just be patient and wait for the market to settle out. [2016-10-31 19:53:25] zecz : BitMEX_Sam: what happends if the contract doesn't get marked? [2016-10-31 19:53:46] sleger : we understand that you made those rules in a rush and therefore they are not the best, so we're just trying to explain why, you know, for next time [2016-10-31 19:53:49] BitMEX_Sam : zecz: Nothing. [2016-10-31 19:54:03] prospecta : haha [2016-10-31 19:54:04] BitMEX_Sam : We committed to marking by Dec 1 so that there is a definite price target for the Dec 30 settlement. [2016-10-31 19:54:25] prospecta : I smell a rat [2016-10-31 19:54:39] sleger : and by "by Dec 1" you mean <= Dec 1, not == Dec1 ? [2016-10-31 19:54:49] aethlios : BitMEX_Sam: Hi Sam, you can suspect that new coins hyped like zcash will follow in the future, so you need to be more prepared next time!!! so we can trade more safely. [2016-10-31 19:55:22] BitMEX_Sam : I'm sure all of you are aware that this is an entirely new situation, and yes, some of these specs will be better fleshed-out in the future. [2016-10-31 19:55:26] zecz : I guess the price target will be the spot price from polo [2016-10-31 19:55:44] coinrun : 1070.62043025 ZEC [2016-10-31 19:56:00] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: We mean "by Dec 1", as in by the end of day Dec 1. [2016-10-31 19:56:00] sleger : thanks again for that 8th decimal [2016-10-31 19:56:05] BitMEX_Greg : lol [2016-10-31 19:56:08] NL007 : 1,7brc zec [2016-10-31 19:56:12] NL007 : btc [2016-10-31 19:56:16] aethlios : BitMEX_Sam: just don't be afraid to launch first the next future before the coin goes to spot [2016-10-31 19:59:56] lockhedge : BitMEX_Sam: would it be possible to preview the index/fair basis based mark price somewhere? so ppl can get used to it (figure out how it works) before it is in force [2016-10-31 19:59:57] aethlios : no real bulls here to follow zcah spot. [2016-10-31 20:00:48] sleger : aethlios: well rapid is AFK at the moment [2016-10-31 20:01:03] BitMEX_Wally : lockhedge: Have a look at `fairPrice` on the instrument table [2016-10-31 20:01:38] BitMEX_Wally : That's currently taking the Poloniex price and applying a -350% annualised basis [2016-10-31 20:01:44] prospecta : if sleger just settled down we'd be ok [2016-10-31 20:01:56] wurstgelee : cheap zec at polo again. only 1.63. get them while they're hot [2016-10-31 20:02:53] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: great, thanks! is fair basis based on impact mid price or is it currently manually set? [2016-10-31 20:03:29] BitMEX_Wally : It was manually set, this number will change [2016-10-31 20:03:30] gustavo7 : what the zec [2016-10-31 20:04:25] Yuppie : I really don't get the discussion here [2016-10-31 20:04:55] BitMEX_Wally : IF we used impact mid price then the basis should be -480% [2016-10-31 20:04:59] gustavo7 : tbh why is noone following the index? [2016-10-31 20:05:18] sleger : LOL at Z16 [2016-10-31 20:05:29] sleger : 784.17 3568 [2016-10-31 20:05:30] Yuppie : What does it matter which Index is going to be used to settle the future? We are talking about probably +/- 0.05BTC depending on the exchange [2016-10-31 20:05:41] BitMEX_Wally : Yuppie: Correct [2016-10-31 20:05:46] aethlios : if someone had 10.000 btc here, and placed a wall at 2 btc for zcash when polo was 1000, then noone could break the wall and would make a bargain 48 hours ago. [2016-10-31 20:05:48] wurstgelee : sleger: wtf [2016-10-31 20:06:26] BitMEX_Wally : All this discussion and we're only talking about a mark price which calculates unrealised PNL. The actual index for settlement will be confirmed on 1 December [2016-10-31 20:06:49] aethlios : sold 5 0.395, thanks [2016-10-31 20:06:52] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: looks like someone again trying to manipulate Z16 in low liquidity in order book [2016-10-31 20:07:18] justinlooking : let em ;) [2016-10-31 20:07:23] BitMEX_Sam : Yet it didn't affect mark, so they just lost $ [2016-10-31 20:07:25] BitMEX_Sam : More likely a fat finger [2016-10-31 20:07:27] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: that is all correct , thats not necessarily how herd instinct works tho [2016-10-31 20:07:32] wurstgelee : =) [2016-10-31 20:07:33] RocketScience : WHAT JUST HAPPENED IN XBT USD [2016-10-31 20:07:36] Formiga : Can I block people here in the chat? [2016-10-31 20:07:36] RocketScience : sorry caps [2016-10-31 20:07:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 12 @ 0.411804 [2016-10-31 20:07:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.424341 [2016-10-31 20:07:44] BitMEX_Sam : Formiga: Unfortunately no [2016-10-31 20:07:46] RocketScience : who bought all the way up? [2016-10-31 20:07:53] kogroken : Nothing to see here, just a $40 dollar blip [2016-10-31 20:07:56] BitMEX_Wally : Every other futures exchange just marks to the last price of the future, yet here we are trying to mark to fair price to prevent liquidations and we get a load of grief [2016-10-31 20:07:56] wurstgelee : oh...suprise.. .:D [2016-10-31 20:08:16] justinlooking : Formiga, i will sell u some js that blocks rapidtrades ;) [2016-10-31 20:08:18] wurstgelee : all the way? [2016-10-31 20:08:31] wurstgelee : single orders... [2016-10-31 20:08:36] wurstgelee : mostly [2016-10-31 20:09:17] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Wally: IMHO just mark to LastPriceProtected and forget about it, let people trade how they want [2016-10-31 20:09:28] RocketScience : market maker died on dec 30 [2016-10-31 20:09:29] gustavo7 : BitMEX_Wally: how about making ZCASH contracts smaller? [2016-10-31 20:09:36] RocketScience : explain someoneee [2016-10-31 20:09:38] BitMEX_Wally : miramm1115: I am very tempted :) [2016-10-31 20:09:43] wurstgelee : lol. wtf happened with z16 orderbook [2016-10-31 20:09:49] RocketScience : mira market maker jump in dec 30 [2016-10-31 20:09:52] wurstgelee : did some bot run amok? [2016-10-31 20:10:01] wurstgelee : its empty [2016-10-31 20:10:03] wurstgelee : =) [2016-10-31 20:10:13] BitMEX_Wally : LastPriceProtected only works if there is a stable FairPrice, and due to the basis swings and lack of underlying index we can't do that for ZECZ16 yet [2016-10-31 20:10:15] RocketScience : haha it bought up to 780 :D [2016-10-31 20:10:31] wurstgelee : wtf..seriously [2016-10-31 20:10:43] wurstgelee : prob got some wrong data ;) [2016-10-31 20:10:51] sleger : got some : XBTZ16 666 -666 0 776.66 [2016-10-31 20:10:57] RocketScience : btc 10000 in china? [2016-10-31 20:11:04] wurstgelee : sleger: me too, thanks to u. a lot later tho ;) [2016-10-31 20:11:21] sleger : i sold 50k also after but at 742.x [2016-10-31 20:11:45] RocketScience : i welcome tht glitch with open arms [2016-10-31 20:11:52] wurstgelee : i'll take free 25% in 5 mins any day [2016-10-31 20:11:54] wurstgelee : ;) [2016-10-31 20:12:41] wurstgelee : 1.9 @ polo [2016-10-31 20:12:43] wurstgelee : ;) [2016-10-31 20:13:42] elfix : 2 [2016-10-31 20:13:50] wurstgelee : oO [2016-10-31 20:13:56] kryptopojken : pumpage [2016-10-31 20:14:39] EA_FTW : Bloody hell, my about-to-be-burnt nicehash fortune is growing by the minute, and the pool operator is still busy.. [2016-10-31 20:14:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.449763 [2016-10-31 20:15:03] gustavo7 : yolo [2016-10-31 20:15:09] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.467500 [2016-10-31 20:15:09] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 94 @ 0.457113 [2016-10-31 20:15:09] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 7 @ 0.460069 [2016-10-31 20:15:09] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.472885 [2016-10-31 20:15:09] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.465094 [2016-10-31 20:15:17] sleger : gustavo7: nice [2016-10-31 20:15:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 3 @ 0.486925 [2016-10-31 20:15:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 3 @ 0.522606 [2016-10-31 20:15:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 10 @ 0.524523 [2016-10-31 20:15:53] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 41 @ 0.534582 [2016-10-31 20:15:53] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.547750 [2016-10-31 20:16:01] fsec : LOL 133 buy wall [2016-10-31 20:16:08] gustavo7 : squeeze [2016-10-31 20:16:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.550000 [2016-10-31 20:16:45] Yuppie : ZEC is going to be brutal [2016-10-31 20:16:53] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.561750 [2016-10-31 20:16:54] coinrun : cough. [2016-10-31 20:16:54] sleger : people help buy at 65 [2016-10-31 20:17:09] wurstgelee : haha [2016-10-31 20:17:14] wurstgelee : thank you ADL [2016-10-31 20:17:17] wurstgelee : FREE MONEY [2016-10-31 20:17:18] wurstgelee : :D [2016-10-31 20:17:42] Rado : rapitrades not here? [2016-10-31 20:17:51] khessabi2 : bitmex clos my ZEC long!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [2016-10-31 20:17:53] wurstgelee : Rado: repid longed from 3 [2016-10-31 20:17:53] sleger : banned for 3rd time [2016-10-31 20:17:55] khessabi2 : wtf [2016-10-31 20:18:02] wurstgelee : khessabi2: ADL, youre welcome [2016-10-31 20:18:14] Rado : thanks [2016-10-31 20:18:14] khessabi2 : what is adl [2016-10-31 20:18:16] BitMEX_Wally : There was no ADL, it got filled [2016-10-31 20:18:38] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: thats not true [2016-10-31 20:18:42] aethlios : opened 5 more 0.55, thanks [2016-10-31 20:18:43] BitMEX_Wally : Sorry, my bad [2016-10-31 20:18:44] Rado : why is the spot price going up? [2016-10-31 20:18:45] Rado : fomo? [2016-10-31 20:18:46] wurstgelee : i got deleverage by 26 of 26 conts [2016-10-31 20:18:49] wurstgelee : .... [2016-10-31 20:18:52] BitMEX_Wally : There was 48 contracts deleveraged [2016-10-31 20:19:03] wurstgelee : lol fuck [2016-10-31 20:19:07] wurstgelee : i was 1x [2016-10-31 20:19:09] khessabi2 : I wtf is delaveraged [2016-10-31 20:19:18] Yuppie : Sorry first time here..why was my contract "deleveraged"? [2016-10-31 20:19:23] aili : omg all over again) [2016-10-31 20:19:23] wurstgelee : how could i have all 26 at highest qeue? [2016-10-31 20:19:27] wurstgelee : :/ [2016-10-31 20:19:29] sleger : khessabi2: you ever saw the rabbit magic trick ? [2016-10-31 20:19:29] aili : poor zec traders [2016-10-31 20:19:40] sleger : imagine your position is the rabbit [2016-10-31 20:20:12] Rado : wurstgelee: what price did you get? [2016-10-31 20:20:20] khessabi2 : sleger: come on!!....I bought 7 zec on 0.4.....but bitmex close it...why [2016-10-31 20:20:24] Rado : you can get back in at that price maybe [2016-10-31 20:20:27] wurstgelee : i am glad we have no marking to an unstable volatile marking like polo has. instead we have safe last price marking :p [2016-10-31 20:20:32] wurstgelee : Rado: .33 average [2016-10-31 20:20:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 5 @ 0.603750 [2016-10-31 20:20:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.634375 [2016-10-31 20:20:34] BitMEX_Wally : Please excuse me, I read the log wrong. It was 270 contracts deleveraged at 0.5793225 [2016-10-31 20:20:36] sleger : khessabi2: cause it was the rabbit [2016-10-31 20:20:51] Rado : wurstgelee: no, what was your ADL price [2016-10-31 20:21:03] wurstgelee : Rado: what wally just said [2016-10-31 20:21:15] Rado : right [2016-10-31 20:21:18] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.792917 [2016-10-31 20:21:18] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 11 @ 0.779887 [2016-10-31 20:21:24] RocketScience : zeeeec [2016-10-31 20:21:24] zexder : WHERE IS MY POSITION??? [2016-10-31 20:21:24] numero : so, operation fury anyone? [2016-10-31 20:21:28] khessabi2 : sleger: what? [2016-10-31 20:21:30] sleger : zexder: rabbit [2016-10-31 20:21:38] sleger : khessabi2: it's gone !! [2016-10-31 20:21:44] Yuppie : sorry but do I pay off shorts with the deleveaging? [2016-10-31 20:22:00] wurstgelee : Yuppie: you get your position closed with a profit [2016-10-31 20:22:13] sleger : Yuppie: you help shorts close out [2016-10-31 20:22:14] wurstgelee : thats the alternative to classic clawback [2016-10-31 20:22:15] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveraging [2016-10-31 20:22:31] BitMEX_Greg : zexder: You should have received an email [2016-10-31 20:22:55] wurstgelee : my great .33 entry.... gone with the wind. cheap :'| [2016-10-31 20:23:02] sleger : Open Interest 320 <= still all those to liquidate [2016-10-31 20:23:06] Yuppie : ok I get it [2016-10-31 20:23:14] Rado : wurstgelee: you made a good amount [2016-10-31 20:23:19] messiaen8844 : nice play [2016-10-31 20:23:19] wurstgelee : Rado: yes ofc [2016-10-31 20:23:22] wurstgelee : i am good [2016-10-31 20:23:25] wurstgelee : easy mony ;) [2016-10-31 20:23:28] wurstgelee : money [2016-10-31 20:23:31] Rado : keep in mind it's not easy to sell without ADL [2016-10-31 20:23:36] Rado : look at the bids [2016-10-31 20:23:41] RocketScience : Who bought 400k dec 30 btc contracts up to 780?!?! [2016-10-31 20:23:44] zecz : can u get your position auto-closed even when u make profit? [2016-10-31 20:23:45] wurstgelee : if only suprnova would send my 1.5 zec withdrawal now.... [2016-10-31 20:24:04] wurstgelee : zecz: short answer: yes [2016-10-31 20:24:12] zecz : why? [2016-10-31 20:24:16] RoftheN : Oh I got liquidated [2016-10-31 20:24:17] RoftheN : how sad [2016-10-31 20:24:23] wurstgelee : long answer: read link posted above [2016-10-31 20:24:38] negamax : RocketScience: it was a bug in Bitmex or something really odd happened. I closed 15k at market.. :S [2016-10-31 20:24:39] mjones : wtf zec is pumping [2016-10-31 20:24:42] wurstgelee : regarding audodeleveraging [2016-10-31 20:24:46] RoftheN : Crazy zec pumps [2016-10-31 20:24:49] wurstgelee : mjones: 2.15 @ polo [2016-10-31 20:24:51] wurstgelee : =) [2016-10-31 20:24:52] zecz : If I short now at 0,74 and doesn't touch my position until cash settlement [2016-10-31 20:24:54] sleger : negamax: ouch :( sorry [2016-10-31 20:24:55] RocketScience : negamax: that glitch helped me a lot [2016-10-31 20:25:00] zecz : you mean it can close before that anyway [2016-10-31 20:25:07] negamax : RocketScience: enjoy :D [2016-10-31 20:25:10] mjones : i closed my long at .26 before work [2016-10-31 20:26:14] kryptopojken : poloooo [2016-10-31 20:26:24] kryptopojken : close your shorts gentlemen [2016-10-31 20:26:27] zecz : 2,5 [2016-10-31 20:26:29] aethlios : machines gone crazy [2016-10-31 20:26:31] wurstgelee : lol [2016-10-31 20:26:31] NL007 : feel sorry for those shorters [2016-10-31 20:26:38] NL007 : getting ugly [2016-10-31 20:26:50] wurstgelee : NL007: always felt, always said that. ;) [2016-10-31 20:26:56] Yuppie : is it possible to margin only a single psoition? [2016-10-31 20:27:14] messiaen8844 : buy buy buy zec [2016-10-31 20:27:17] messiaen8844 : squeeze coming [2016-10-31 20:27:24] messiaen8844 : remember limited risk longing, unlimited risk shorting [2016-10-31 20:27:48] wurstgelee : 2.63..... ;) [2016-10-31 20:28:02] NL007 : 3btc coming [2016-10-31 20:28:11] coinrun : nice [2016-10-31 20:28:12] elfix : yep [2016-10-31 20:28:14] RoftheN : Why limited risk longing? [2016-10-31 20:28:14] aethlios : what a fake polo market, too much manipulation [2016-10-31 20:28:16] Yuppie : KBIO [2016-10-31 20:28:17] coinrun : nice nice nice [2016-10-31 20:28:19] zecz : only 1500 coins [2016-10-31 20:28:25] zecz : could go to 10-100 in a hype [2016-10-31 20:28:28] zecz : just wait and see [2016-10-31 20:28:37] Rado : zecz: no it can't [2016-10-31 20:28:44] NL007 : 1670 ZEC [2016-10-31 20:28:45] zecz : people on polo doesnt care [2016-10-31 20:28:48] RocketScience : dec 30 future are now up 8 dollars, but spot price is the same... [2016-10-31 20:28:49] zecz : they want to casino [2016-10-31 20:28:54] RoftheN : But this is future, and we all know it's going down soon [2016-10-31 20:28:59] RocketScience : i was long luckily....from - to + :) [2016-10-31 20:29:15] kryptopojken : golden opportunity to close shorts into the 11 wall [2016-10-31 20:29:18] sleger : rapidtrades: it's happening ! [2016-10-31 20:29:22] kryptopojken : do it or get rekt [2016-10-31 20:29:32] sleger : last time you can buy before 1 people [2016-10-31 20:29:33] elfix : zec go back to 500 btc as it starts [2016-10-31 20:29:37] Rado : sleger: it will be hard for him to get out at 3 [2016-10-31 20:29:41] Rado : but he can maybe get 1.5 [2016-10-31 20:29:45] messiaen8844 : rofthen: if you hold 1 ZEC @ 0.2 you can only lose 0.2 [2016-10-31 20:29:58] RocketScience : sleger: If you buy 1 million xbt dec 30 will mark price move like 10 dollars up? [2016-10-31 20:29:58] sleger : Rado: we're going back to 10 [2016-10-31 20:30:00] messiaen8844 : if you short @ 0.2 and it rises to 2BTC... ouch [2016-10-31 20:30:04] wurstgelee : sleger: yep [2016-10-31 20:30:06] wurstgelee : probably [2016-10-31 20:30:07] Rado : sleger: you think [2016-10-31 20:30:19] Yuppie : this is not going to stop [2016-10-31 20:30:22] wurstgelee : 2.8 is not the peak [2016-10-31 20:30:25] messiaen8844 : 10 BTC then down, will be great here [2016-10-31 20:30:26] sleger : Rado: i wouldnt short anywhere below 5-7 [2016-10-31 20:30:29] Rado : I doubt it, but anythign is possible [2016-10-31 20:30:30] RocketScience : 3.1 [2016-10-31 20:30:30] Yuppie : there are only like 2000 coins mined yet [2016-10-31 20:30:32] wurstgelee : its in that range too long [2016-10-31 20:30:34] wurstgelee : see? [2016-10-31 20:30:35] wurstgelee : :D [2016-10-31 20:30:37] RocketScience : 3.13 !!!!! [2016-10-31 20:30:44] elfix : waou not finish [2016-10-31 20:30:45] kryptopojken : hoooly crap [2016-10-31 20:30:47] RocketScience : 3.20 :D [2016-10-31 20:30:48] NL007 : boom [2016-10-31 20:30:50] mjones : damn. either i would be up 400% or adl if my left my zec long open. time to go rage [2016-10-31 20:30:51] zecz : 25% of the coins are in devs wallet, and they dont sell [2016-10-31 20:31:01] RocketScience : 3.35 [2016-10-31 20:31:02] aethlios : only 100 asks polo, manipulators party [2016-10-31 20:31:03] RocketScience : hahaha [2016-10-31 20:31:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 8 @ 0.916358 [2016-10-31 20:31:10] sleger : 33 coins to 1.19 (if no hidden) [2016-10-31 20:31:13] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.935751 [2016-10-31 20:31:13] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.939572 [2016-10-31 20:31:14] Gr33d : ZEC for king [2016-10-31 20:31:32] numero : Fury, fury fury! [2016-10-31 20:31:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.977803 [2016-10-31 20:32:29] prospecta : wriggedy wriggedy rekt son [2016-10-31 20:32:38] public username 321 : wtf? [2016-10-31 20:32:54] EA_FTW : omfg, now 6BTC slowly slipping away :-( https://zcash.nicehash.com/balances [2016-10-31 20:32:54] mjones : anyone still have a zec long position open from .25 area? [2016-10-31 20:32:54] gustavo7 : 3.5 on polo already [2016-10-31 20:33:04] Rado : 2.80 [2016-10-31 20:33:06] Rado : actually [2016-10-31 20:33:23] Rado : now going back up [2016-10-31 20:33:24] gustavo7 : i mean high in the candle [2016-10-31 20:33:29] Rado : yes [2016-10-31 20:33:31] aethlios : they will dump below 1 soon [2016-10-31 20:33:32] kryptopojken : last change to close below 1 [2016-10-31 20:33:36] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Wally: are you planning to switch XBJ back to Quione or it will stay on LastPriceProtected? [2016-10-31 20:33:38] imabeast : that was wild [2016-10-31 20:33:41] gustavo7 : <-- guys were going to seven [2016-10-31 20:34:01] lopol : What a great chance to short zec now [2016-10-31 20:34:10] messiaen8844 : go for it [2016-10-31 20:34:16] messiaen8844 : try it will be fun [2016-10-31 20:34:20] aili : messiaen8844: =) [2016-10-31 20:34:40] lopol : If my liq price is above then i will make sure pforit on longterm [2016-10-31 20:34:42] CapitalGains : DON'T short with less than 10 BTC margin [2016-10-31 20:34:55] messiaen8844 : just make sure your liquidation is above 10BTC [2016-10-31 20:35:00] blacktuesday : is zcash price still capped [2016-10-31 20:35:02] blacktuesday : ? [2016-10-31 20:35:03] CapitalGains : It spirals out of control in the blink of an eye [2016-10-31 20:35:09] CapitalGains : Yes it's capped at 10 BTC [2016-10-31 20:35:09] Rado : blacktuesday: yes [2016-10-31 20:35:16] messiaen8844 : yes [2016-10-31 20:35:21] blacktuesday : thxs [2016-10-31 20:35:48] sleger : i think it would be perfect timing to switch to polo AND remove the cap :D :D [2016-10-31 20:36:06] Rado : sleger: it was this morning [2016-10-31 20:36:11] wurstgelee : sleger: :D :D :D [2016-10-31 20:36:12] Rado : now not so much [2016-10-31 20:36:18] wurstgelee : healthy volume! [2016-10-31 20:36:20] wurstgelee : ;) [2016-10-31 20:36:23] KingLISK : There is way more volume then 1000 zec now on polo, time to mark to spot bitmex :) [2016-10-31 20:36:23] Rado : also they said they will give us 24 H notice [2016-10-31 20:36:25] sleger : Rado: all the shorts would close out of fear [2016-10-31 20:36:33] wurstgelee : sleger: :p [2016-10-31 20:36:38] Rado : sleger: BitMEX doesn't want that I think [2016-10-31 20:36:45] sleger : no kidding [2016-10-31 20:36:51] sleger : was a joke [2016-10-31 20:36:54] messiaen8844 : 24hs notice [2016-10-31 20:37:10] messiaen8844 : let's see if I can do healthly withdraws and deposits now ;) [2016-10-31 20:37:18] messiaen8844 : on zcash [2016-10-31 20:37:29] kryptopojken : omg pump continues [2016-10-31 20:37:33] kryptopojken : poloooo [2016-10-31 20:37:40] Rado : no more buyers here [2016-10-31 20:37:44] gustavo7 : volume in the last 5min candle on polo is double then in the one before [2016-10-31 20:37:44] zecz : i want to short! [2016-10-31 20:37:45] public username 321 : why would this make sense? [2016-10-31 20:37:49] zecz : but its not safe [2016-10-31 20:37:55] lopol : So is adl good or bad thing if happens to trader? [2016-10-31 20:37:56] sleger : Open Interest 330 [2016-10-31 20:38:02] messiaen8844 : short XMR long ZCASH [2016-10-31 20:38:02] messiaen8844 : flowing from one to another [2016-10-31 20:38:06] gustavo7 : *halfway there* [2016-10-31 20:38:15] prospecta : fomo [2016-10-31 20:38:36] Rado : cmon [2016-10-31 20:38:39] Rado : buy buy [2016-10-31 20:38:51] aili : doesnt rise on polo [2016-10-31 20:38:53] aethlios : haven't seen such a scam again, do zcash devs have a cat??? [2016-10-31 20:38:53] kryptopojken : LAST chance to close below 1 [2016-10-31 20:39:03] aili : it wil go through 1$ [2016-10-31 20:39:06] aili : here [2016-10-31 20:39:14] aili : if polo reaches 4 [2016-10-31 20:39:16] sleger : 25 away from 1.1999 [2016-10-31 20:39:17] imabeast : stiff resistance at 3.5 [2016-10-31 20:39:22] imabeast : on polo [2016-10-31 20:39:41] Yuppie : if I had 15BTC Id take it through 1 [2016-10-31 20:39:50] sleger : if someone buys 20, high chance of making money by liquidating more shorters [2016-10-31 20:40:26] CapitalGains : And if someone sells 4, all the longs will be liquidat [2016-10-31 20:40:33] CapitalGains : *ed [2016-10-31 20:40:44] sleger : CapitalGains: no because most longs have been long from way lower [2016-10-31 20:40:55] imabeast : gah i wish i could have shorted there [2016-10-31 20:40:55] sleger : see nothing happens [2016-10-31 20:40:56] imabeast : damnit [2016-10-31 20:41:06] miramm1115 : here you go [2016-10-31 20:41:06] CapitalGains : I mean the longs at 0.99 [2016-10-31 20:41:08] numero : heh [2016-10-31 20:41:11] aethlios : zcrash [2016-10-31 20:41:12] wurstgelee : wuhahaha [2016-10-31 20:41:17] wurstgelee : such fun [2016-10-31 20:41:19] sleger : CapitalGains: you're wrong, many got sold nothing happened [2016-10-31 20:41:24] messiaen8844 : longs have liquidation at minus infinity [2016-10-31 20:41:29] zcasher7777 : hi so who is the noob i say at 0.10 buy now0.8 x8 x9 xddd [2016-10-31 20:41:36] CapitalGains : Depends on margin, true [2016-10-31 20:41:50] RoftheN : Damn I'm too late to short high [2016-10-31 20:42:00] CapitalGains : If they're on cross margin with more than they paid, they won't get liquidated [2016-10-31 20:42:08] messiaen8844 : lol rapid trades not online? [2016-10-31 20:42:08] messiaen8844 : he might get pissed [2016-10-31 20:42:14] messiaen8844 : and boy he is good at getting pissed [2016-10-31 20:42:20] miramm1115 : at least the orderbook is clear now, price can jump from 0.5 to 1 [2016-10-31 20:42:39] imabeast : wow that scared the shit out of me [2016-10-31 20:42:45] wurstgelee : imabeast: :D [2016-10-31 20:42:50] wurstgelee : not the last run [2016-10-31 20:42:53] imabeast : thank god i have enough liquidity [2016-10-31 20:42:56] imabeast : lmao [2016-10-31 20:43:05] wurstgelee : still plenty of time for shenenigans [2016-10-31 20:43:10] imabeast : yes true [2016-10-31 20:43:16] wurstgelee : 24h notice in advance etc ;) [2016-10-31 20:43:18] kryptopojken : polo going back up [2016-10-31 20:43:50] aili : target 5? [2016-10-31 20:43:55] aili : maybe lets see [2016-10-31 20:43:57] messiaen8844 : short now guys, we want another round of liquidations [2016-10-31 20:44:02] aili : =) [2016-10-31 20:44:13] messiaen8844 : it's going down, but can you stand the heat? [2016-10-31 20:44:53] messiaen8844 : call POLO friends, you can buy ZCASH fhere for 0.7, why pay 2.6 :D [2016-10-31 20:45:42] aethlios : if you don't have liq. price 10, don't touch. [2016-10-31 20:45:59] allyourbase : messiaen8844: lol you can't buy zcash here [2016-10-31 20:46:10] aethlios : goes 700 usd up and down in a sec. [2016-10-31 20:46:11] aili : gogo) [2016-10-31 20:46:23] laisee : ZEC will overtake BTC as numero uno blockchain ... buy now :-) [2016-10-31 20:47:02] RocketScience : zec 3.27 fora sec [2016-10-31 20:48:00] Rado : laisee: ha ha [2016-10-31 20:48:20] laisee : Rado scaring he shorties ... ;-) [2016-10-31 20:48:45] messiaen8844 : here [2016-10-31 20:48:44] messiaen8844 : allyourbase: you can buy a rocket ticket [2016-10-31 20:48:45] RocketScience : zec's trading algorhytim is PoDG Proof of degenerate gamblers xD [2016-10-31 20:49:04] aili : RocketScience: hahahha [2016-10-31 20:49:11] aili : thats funny mate) [2016-10-31 20:49:25] messiaen8844 : just remember to sell the ticket at the right time [2016-10-31 20:49:26] messiaen8844 : :D [2016-10-31 20:49:30] messiaen8844 : fueled by poor shorters [2016-10-31 20:49:41] laisee : maybe rename from ZEC to CASINO [2016-10-31 20:49:49] aethlios : time works for shorters, [2016-10-31 20:49:56] aili : ) [2016-10-31 20:50:00] RocketScience : ZECINO [2016-10-31 20:50:14] aethlios : new mined coins will arrive soon [2016-10-31 20:50:17] laisee : JOKER [2016-10-31 20:50:24] RocketScience : every new zec is quantitative easing [2016-10-31 20:50:43] RocketScience : look at price oj usd/jpy after Japan started printing moneys [2016-10-31 20:50:55] y1uy : RocketScience: when did they start? [2016-10-31 20:51:05] prospecta : tiiimbeeeerrrrrr [2016-10-31 20:51:06] RocketScience : somewhere in 2013 [2016-10-31 20:51:12] RocketScience : when it jumped to 120 [2016-10-31 20:51:12] laisee : QE saves banks, kills the economy and savings [2016-10-31 20:51:21] imabeast : short at .9 would have been nice [2016-10-31 20:51:25] RocketScience : you can clearly see it on chart [2016-10-31 20:51:34] zecz : now time to crash [2016-10-31 20:51:38] y1uy : buy my 0.84 order bae [2016-10-31 20:51:39] zecz : back to 1, here we go [2016-10-31 20:51:46] aethlios : decem each day 7.200 new coins, shorters will laugh last collecting bulls blood at expiration [2016-10-31 20:51:54] imabeast : y1uy: i would [2016-10-31 20:52:01] imabeast : y1uy: but i cant [2016-10-31 20:52:01] RocketScience : inflation is a bch [2016-10-31 20:52:07] y1uy : imabeast: why? [2016-10-31 20:52:15] y1uy : imabeast: :( [2016-10-31 20:52:32] zecz : today 1500 coins, 1 jan, 135 000 coins [2016-10-31 20:52:38] zecz : price will go down ofc [2016-10-31 20:52:46] aili : щас [2016-10-31 20:53:02] zecz : but how much, maybe down to 0,1 btc [2016-10-31 20:53:03] aili : but this adl thing is really fun [2016-10-31 20:53:12] zecz : adl? [2016-10-31 20:53:15] y1uy : might rebounce at 2btc [2016-10-31 20:53:48] aethlios : 30 dec. 315.000 coins [2016-10-31 20:54:17] y1uy : zcash pump on election? [2016-10-31 20:54:23] allyourbase : show's over, lol [2016-10-31 20:54:29] wignodeer : and then daily generation of 7220 coins right [2016-10-31 20:55:07] aethlios : 7200 each day after day 35 [2016-10-31 20:55:23] y1uy : how many per day now? [2016-10-31 20:55:32] coinrun : 1600 available [2016-10-31 20:55:46] RocketScience : weighted average:1.99 btc per zec, volume 1500 [2016-10-31 20:55:47] laisee : 24hr Volume: 2510.32982689 BTC / 1647.10737849 ZEC [2016-10-31 20:55:58] wignodeer : at 0.5 btc thats 3610 btc a day. More than what bitcoin currently gets in daily fiat support. Is it possible with zec? [2016-10-31 20:56:09] y1uy : http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/726823/Britain-First-Bulgarian-militia-hunt-refugees should i join? [2016-10-31 20:56:17] aethlios : every day increases to reach day 35 7200, total for first 35 days is 126000 [2016-10-31 20:56:31] gustavo7 : gonna launch DJT coin, no exchange rate cuz it's rigged anyway [2016-10-31 20:56:45] wignodeer : after 35 days, zec will need more daily fiat support than bitcoin currently gets to sustain 0.58 price [2016-10-31 20:56:46] laisee : wignodeer: this time its different .... ZEC >> BTC for noobs [2016-10-31 20:57:15] aethlios : only 142 at polo asks, so manipulation easy [2016-10-31 20:57:21] wignodeer : thats a lot of optimism for zec [2016-10-31 20:58:18] RoftheN : I really hate how someone can just pump up the price and liquidate shorters only for it to go back to the former price an hour later [2016-10-31 20:58:19] y1uy : lisk up soon [2016-10-31 20:58:19] aethlios : also btc can be 900 on dec. 30, making things worse [2016-10-31 20:58:38] messiaen8844 : RoftheN; welcome to the markets [2016-10-31 20:58:47] messiaen8844 : that's 90% of the moves for ALL markets in the world [2016-10-31 20:58:51] y1uy : RoftheN: its beutiful right? [2016-10-31 20:59:05] messiaen8844 : try trading forex, it's even worse than crypto [2016-10-31 20:59:14] laisee : free market in action :-) [2016-10-31 20:59:15] kogroken : RoftheN: You can always trade unleveraged. That's way safer. [2016-10-31 20:59:16] wignodeer : at this price you're really assuming that zec has become the mother of crypto in 35 days [2016-10-31 20:59:19] RoftheN : But it's because people dont put enough sell orders [2016-10-31 20:59:56] aili : 0.989000 7 22:31:42 Zec [2016-10-31 21:00:02] RoftheN : We all know that ZEC is going down eventually, once the blockreward is over 5 [2016-10-31 21:00:06] aili : this guy got lucky [2016-10-31 21:00:15] RoftheN : That guy is very lucky [2016-10-31 21:00:16] aili : tomorrow he will have ~ 5 btc [2016-10-31 21:00:54] RocketScience : Zec chart will be like steem on polo [2016-10-31 21:01:00] RocketScience : "gloom and doom" [2016-10-31 21:01:30] RocketScience : btc mega dump? [2016-10-31 21:02:10] laisee : yes. part of the exit from BTC to ZEC under way nw [2016-10-31 21:02:12] y1uy : RocketScience: i say consolidation [2016-10-31 21:02:39] aethlios : tomorrow 1000 new coins, inflation 55% [2016-10-31 21:02:43] RocketScience : for 1 day, week, 2 weeks? [2016-10-31 21:03:08] RocketScience : i'm thinking about buying some alts...but it can move up anytime [2016-10-31 21:03:27] aethlios : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/zcash-unleashes-trading-frenzy/ scroll down has a list [2016-10-31 21:03:37] zecz : mine zec and short with all winnings, each strat [2016-10-31 21:03:40] y1uy : RocketScience: US election in 9 days [2016-10-31 21:03:44] zecz : easy* [2016-10-31 21:03:54] RocketScience : trump up, hillary down [2016-10-31 21:04:03] y1uy : RocketScience: +1 [2016-10-31 21:04:23] zexder : BitMEX_Greg: why my long position at entry 0.33 was auto-deleveraged at 0.57? It was about on 1.2x leverage only [2016-10-31 21:04:26] aethlios : in 8 days will have 10X coins [2016-10-31 21:04:33] mjmj83 : I just deposited 75 btc to be sure my liq price is above 10... scared chicken I am [2016-10-31 21:04:50] BitMEX_Greg : zexder: Please take a look at https://www.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveraging [2016-10-31 21:04:59] BitMEX_Greg : The formula is based on both leverage AND profit. [2016-10-31 21:05:20] aethlios : in 24 hours new lows [2016-10-31 21:05:54] wurstgelee : weird. polo doesnt seem to really dump, looks like prepping for next wave [2016-10-31 21:06:03] wurstgelee : right now at least [2016-10-31 21:06:06] zanza : how come people get ADL when insurance fund is not empty? [2016-10-31 21:06:19] rx84 : ^^ Good Q [2016-10-31 21:06:30] wurstgelee : cant be imo? [2016-10-31 21:06:36] rfcdejong : fuc I should had kept my buy order on ZEC at 0.7 lol [2016-10-31 21:06:41] kryptopojken : very good question [2016-10-31 21:06:41] public username 321 : but why? This doesn't make sense. [2016-10-31 21:06:43] CapitalGains : mjmj83: I take it you're going to short less than 7 ZEC contracts then? Obviously you don't want to take advice from strangers, but I'd recommend keeping some spare margin to short really high, at prices of 2-10 BTC. [2016-10-31 21:07:29] laisee : correkt - ZEC going up b4 it crashes [2016-10-31 21:07:58] RoftheN : polo going up again [2016-10-31 21:08:05] mjmj83 : CapitalGains: already have a -11 position [2016-10-31 21:08:34] aethlios : those rallies will happen again many times to keep hope alive, but rallies always from lower prices [2016-10-31 21:08:48] laisee : POLO is YOLO land ... heading over 3 [2016-10-31 21:09:14] messiaen8844 : are we in for another round of liquidations? [2016-10-31 21:09:26] y1uy : so many silly gooses [2016-10-31 21:09:27] CapitalGains : mjmj83: Don't underestimate the Bitmex auto-liquidation short squeeze feedback mechanism. You might want to close 4. [2016-10-31 21:09:59] mjmj83 : my liq price will be above 10 btc when my deposit arrives [2016-10-31 21:10:10] wurstgelee : quick, pump to 10 [2016-10-31 21:10:12] wurstgelee : :p [2016-10-31 21:10:13] CapitalGains : OK good good [2016-10-31 21:10:31] mjmj83 : haha, good luck:)