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[2015-10-13 20:59:16] daverich204 : essentially recreate the 'Trading Dashboard' page's data. But just for viewing only, not placing orders or anything.
[2015-10-13 20:59:21] BitMEX_Sam : Sure.
[2015-10-13 21:05:08] BitMEX_Sam : daverich204: This should help: https://gist.github.com/STRML/abe6407d5b0de7161f45
[2015-10-13 21:06:37] BitMEX_Sam : Essentially, call `getWebSocketStream` as many times as you like from anywhere and listen to their data events. Each stream is something like `'orderBook:XBT24H'`.
[2015-10-13 21:07:20] daverich204 : BitMEX_Sam: Thanks, that gives me a point to jump off from.
[2015-10-13 21:09:08] BitMEX_Sam : daverich204: You can grab a pre-built client from https://www.bitmex.com/api/primus.js
[2015-10-13 21:11:07] daverich204 : BitMEX_SAM: Thanks, I saw that I just need to read up more on implementing that client in primus.
[2015-10-13 21:12:47] daverich204 : Specifically when using primus + engiine.io I'd like to auth using an apikey/secret, which requires sending custom auth headers.
[2015-10-13 21:13:33] BitMEX_Sam : Yep - see the example here: https://github.com/BitMEX/market-maker/blob/master/test/websocket-apikey-auth-test.py
[2015-10-13 21:14:11] BitMEX_Sam : There's a JS port of that here: https://github.com/BitMEX/api-connectors/blob/master/official/node/lib/BitMEXAPIKeyAuthorization.js
[2015-10-13 21:17:36] daverich204 : Thanks for all the help!
[2015-10-13 21:17:47] BitMEX_Sam : No problem, best of luck
[2015-10-13 23:38:22] gaoMex : Want to confirm my underrstanding. To profit from the difference in the premium between different maturity contracts (say XBTV15 and XBTH16), do I buy and sell each contract at the same quantity?
[2015-10-13 23:38:51] BitMEX_Sam : Yes
[2015-10-13 23:40:08] gaoMex : Thanks Sam. Because I started last week and is actually suffering a loss. It's probably because of the recent rally.
[2015-10-13 23:41:21] BitMEX_Sam : Yes - it's not an entirely risk-free strategy. Arthur will be on soon, he can elaborate a bit more if you have more questions.
[2015-10-13 23:44:55] j8 : if you're short the same number of contracts at a higher price, isn't that a net short? since the short position is bigger in BTC or USD terms
[2015-10-13 23:46:59] BitMEX_Sam : That's true, but you want to be net short because your average price has quite a bit of premium built into it
[2015-10-13 23:47:09] BitMEX_Sam : Some good examples here: https://blog.bitmex.com/bitcoin-futures-basis-trading-lesson-2/
[2015-10-13 23:51:10] j8 : ah i see, and if you were watching the unrealised pnl you would only start to see that over time as the basis changes
[2015-10-14 01:31:49] AudibleScience : If margin isolation is enabled does it also isolate the position from others?
[2015-10-14 01:36:13] cryptokeeper : I believe so yes. it does not touch your available balance
[2015-10-14 01:39:04] AudibleScience : So I could effectively take profit from going long, whilst simultaneously being short, on the very same asset, providing the short position was isolated first?
[2015-10-14 01:41:01] j8 : no you can't have a long and a short on the same contract. you just have one position per contract, positive or negative
[2015-10-14 02:03:23] BitMEX_Arthur : AudibleScience: You are asking good questions, I am going to do a simple write up pointing out some of the key differences between us, OKCoin, Huobi, and Bitfinex
[2015-10-14 02:29:36] AudibleScience : Thanks @BitMEX_Arthur that will be very useful.
[2015-10-14 02:30:54] j8 : "why are the prices so much higher here" is probably the #1 FAQ
[2015-10-14 02:34:11] BitMEX_Arthur : We have done over kill on that question I am open for suggestions on how to teach the difference between an inverse and qua to future
[2015-10-14 02:34:27] BitMEX_Arthur : better
[2015-10-14 06:30:22] gaoMex : I understand there is a taker's fee for settlement. Is there any fee for rebalance?
[2015-10-14 06:30:40] BitMEX_Arthur : No there are no rebalance fees
[2015-10-14 06:32:55] gaoMex : Thanks.
[2015-10-14 07:25:42] cengel : Arthur did you see roby3d's idea for custom lot sizes so we dont have to deal with babysized contracts
[2015-10-14 07:25:47] cengel : its too easy to get lost in the 0's
[2015-10-14 07:26:26] BitMEX_Arthur : This issue will be solved when we allow order input in Bitcoin as well as contracts
[2015-10-14 07:26:37] cengel : ok
[2015-10-14 07:26:39] BitMEX_Arthur : We are working on exposing that on the UI
[2015-10-14 07:27:02] cengel : so partial contracts are going to introduce? fractions?
[2015-10-14 07:41:42] BitMEX_Arthur : Because the contract size is so small, there will be no fractional contracts
[2015-10-14 07:41:49] BitMEX_Arthur : It is just a different way to view your position
[2015-10-14 10:13:13] BitMEX_Arthur : https://blog.bitmex.com/the-most-important-chart-in-bitcoin/
[2015-10-14 10:13:18] BitMEX_Arthur : Some light reading for you traders
[2015-10-14 10:13:26] Matthew.v : good stuff
[2015-10-14 10:13:26] Matthew.v : than ks
[2015-10-14 10:13:50] Matthew.v : I am noticing some lag with the trading view charts printing
[2015-10-14 10:13:59] BitMEX_Arthur : For our symbols?
[2015-10-14 10:14:34] Matthew.v : yes
[2015-10-14 10:15:27] Matthew.v : wait never mind I am wrong about the charts not printing.
[2015-10-14 12:58:59] jung1 : hey BitMEX. That x100 leverage is awesome
[2015-10-14 12:59:08] jung1 : good job
[2015-10-14 12:59:13] BitMEX_Arthur : :)
[2015-10-14 13:24:49] lnostdal : hi, i miss the bitmex xbt1d chart on tradingview .. it seems to have been missing for some time (or the feed is down or something)
[2015-10-14 13:31:35] BitMEX_Wally : It might be when we switched from `XBU24H` to `XBT24H`
[2015-10-14 13:32:00] BitMEX_Wally : Wish there was a way to actually contact TradingVIew, they never get back to us
[2015-10-14 18:16:59] peasant-wizard : I have an open long position, with two active buy orders below. I also want to set a stop, for the combined total, below my buys - is this not possible?
[2015-10-14 18:17:21] peasant-wizard : I want to buy a retrace but get out if it turns around - without being in front of the computer
[2015-10-14 18:18:44] peasant-wizard : I am getting an order submission error "Executing at 249.68 would cause immediate liquidation. Try disabling isolated margin." Isolated margin is not enabled. I don't get this error when I set a stop worth my open position amount, only when I try and add in future buys on the way to the stop
[2015-10-14 18:18:50] BitMEX_Sam : So you want to set a buy stop below your buys?
[2015-10-14 18:19:20] peasant-wizard : Set a sell stop below my buys. I want to buy the retrace but close my position if it goes too far
[2015-10-14 18:19:52] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, it's possible to set a sell stop there.
[2015-10-14 18:20:06] BitMEX_Sam : As for the isolated margin message, that's a known bug we've fixed in our testnet, I'm going to backport the fix.
[2015-10-14 18:21:56] peasant-wizard : I have a 100 contract long open since 253.70. I have two 250 contract active buys around 253. I want to set a stop loss to clear my position (1500) at a loss if we drop below 250. I can't seem to set a sell stop for more than my open position
[2015-10-14 18:23:34] peasant-wizard : Does this make sense? It's a habit I got into on BFX. Could be ridiculous but I found it helped me get into positions I don't completely believe in
[2015-10-14 18:23:52] escalicha : StopLimit
[2015-10-14 18:25:26] BitMEX_Sam : peasant-wizard: Try refreshing and setting the Stop again
[2015-10-14 18:27:13] peasant-wizard : Weeelll as easy as that!
[2015-10-14 18:28:09] BitMEX_Sam : Great!
[2015-10-14 18:28:27] peasant-wizard : Struggled with that for a while, glad I asked, glad it was simple. Thanks :)
[2015-10-14 18:29:05] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, I appreciate you speaking up because the fix was already ready, I just hadn't deployed it - we're adding some conveniences to the site that are still in Testnet
[2015-10-14 18:31:24] peasant-wizard : Perfecto. While I'm babbling I just wanted to give some feedback that the organization of the order controls, order status, and positions is really, really good. Perfect amount of modularization with being all over the place
[2015-10-14 18:31:40] peasant-wizard : Sorry, *without being all over the place
[2015-10-14 18:31:58] peasant-wizard : Alright I'm all set up, thanks as always for your help. See ya later
[2015-10-14 18:32:08] BitMEX_Sam : Glad you like it. I think many people are intimidated at first but there's a method to our madness.
[2015-10-14 18:32:13] BitMEX_Sam : Have a good one
[2015-10-14 18:41:21] macios15 : sily question, how to close opened position
[2015-10-14 18:42:20] peasant-wizard : What position? It's the third panel on the right 'Close Position' under order controls. Or set limit orders to buy or sell out of your position
[2015-10-14 18:42:44] BitMEX_Sam : macios15: Yep, you can close with a market order using Close Position, otherwise just submit an opposite limit order.
[2015-10-14 18:43:17] macios15 : ok thx, i got it
[2015-10-14 18:49:21] macios15 : can i withraw profit just after closing position or i need wait for closing contract
[2015-10-14 18:50:18] zanza : anyone making money today?
[2015-10-14 18:51:30] BitMEX_Sam : macios15: The contract needs to expire or rebalance to withdraw profits.
[2015-10-14 18:51:40] BitMEX_Sam : On the dailies, this is at 12 GMT.
[2015-10-14 18:53:03] peasant-wizard : zanza: Depends if I'm buying the top or the breakout
[2015-10-14 18:55:13] macios15 : stamp top is 256 for now probably
[2015-10-14 19:39:46] mewnz : hi, where is margin lending?
[2015-10-14 19:41:25] BitMEX_Sam : mewnz: We don't have margin lending on BitMEX
[2015-10-14 19:41:52] mewnz : do u have plans for this in the future, perhaps?
[2015-10-14 19:41:55] BitMEX_Sam : Leverage does not require peer to peer lending on derivatives, so it is essentially "free" - you do not have to pay a daily lending fee to trade on leverage.
[2015-10-14 19:42:15] BitMEX_Sam : In order to introduce lending we'd essentially have to raise fees. But we're aware that users want a way to earn interest on Bitcoin.
[2015-10-14 19:42:45] mewnz : ok. thx for the info
[2015-10-14 20:00:04] zanza : any plans on adding any contracts not related to Crypto currencies? Especially now that you are not bound by FINCen
[2015-10-14 20:00:21] zanza : and other US governing bodies
[2015-10-14 20:07:40] BitMEX_Sam : zanza: Yes, there are some things in the works
[2015-10-14 21:08:38] Yumi : Im long and I cant sell contracts it says not enough margin
[2015-10-14 21:09:03] Yumi : guys pz..
[2015-10-14 21:09:05] Yumi : plz
[2015-10-14 21:12:28] BitMEX_Sam : Yumi: Selling on the same contract doesn't consume margin
[2015-10-14 21:12:36] BitMEX_Sam : As long as you're selling the same amount you hold.
[2015-10-14 21:12:36] Yumi : exactly
[2015-10-14 21:12:49] Yumi : there is a bug
[2015-10-14 21:13:14] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm I'm not sure about that, we haven't seen anything like that lately. Do you see a 0 margin requirement in the order controls when you try to submit?
[2015-10-14 21:14:11] Yumi : the number I see is higher than free margin and wont let me sell because of that
[2015-10-14 21:14:35] BitMEX_Sam : Are you sure you're on the right expiry?
[2015-10-14 21:16:16] Yumi : I trade here for almost a year already
[2015-10-14 21:16:22] Yumi : I know what Im doing
[2015-10-14 21:16:23] Yumi : https://imgur.com/BPn6q9V
[2015-10-14 21:17:31] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm. Investigating
[2015-10-14 21:17:59] Yumi : I guess you made some change again that introduced a bug
[2015-10-14 21:20:09] BitMEX_Sam : Do you have any other open orders or pending stops?
[2015-10-14 21:20:19] Yumi : not on this contract
[2015-10-14 21:22:03] Yumi : when I try to sell with less req marging than my free margin it tells me I cant sell because it would get me liquidated
[2015-10-14 21:22:40] Yumi : if with more then free margin it tells me I dont have enough free margin
[2015-10-14 21:24:11] BitMEX_Sam : Yumi: I see that you have an open Stop on that contract
[2015-10-14 21:25:04] Yumi : so executing order would trigger my stop or how does it work?
[2015-10-14 21:25:27] BitMEX_Sam : No, but open orders consume margin
[2015-10-14 21:26:35] Yumi : even a stop?
[2015-10-14 21:26:53] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, because the margin has to be present in case the stop were to execute
[2015-10-14 21:27:51] Yumi : my Initial Margin is 0
[2015-10-14 21:31:06] Yumi : btw if I want to have stops on all my positions that would mean I need twice as margin as without stops, I dont know looks pretty strange to me
[2015-10-14 21:31:34] BitMEX_Sam : I'll check with Wally on it, but I believe this is intentional - we would need a mechanism for canceling stops if the margin that they are locking out were to dry up
[2015-10-14 21:31:46] BitMEX_Sam : The solution would be an OCO order type
[2015-10-14 21:32:04] Yumi : my Initial Margin is still 0 so I cant even see margin is being used?
[2015-10-14 21:32:29] BitMEX_Sam : It's not that the margin is being used, it's that it's using up the position offset that makes it free to exit a position
[2015-10-14 21:32:40] BitMEX_Sam : If your stop were slightly larger than your position it would start eating up IM.
[2015-10-14 21:34:44] Yumi : you said "open orders consume margin"
[2015-10-14 21:35:08] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, but first they consume position offset
[2015-10-14 21:36:04] Yumi : so I can have stops for free as long as they are at size of position
[2015-10-14 21:36:22] BitMEX_Sam : Essentially, if you're long 1000 contracts, and you enter an order to sell 500, you've used up half of the position offset allowance, so it doesn't cost any IM
[2015-10-14 21:36:33] BitMEX_Sam : Once you've used up the offset it starts consuming margin.
[2015-10-14 21:36:54] BitMEX_Sam : So yes, stops don't cost any margin as long as they are the size of the position, but they affect the margin usage of other orders on the same contract.
[2015-10-14 21:37:41] Yumi : I understand, doesnt make perfect sense but I understand
[2015-10-14 21:39:04] BitMEX_Sam : I'll check with Wally about whether or not there is a better way to communicate this.
[2015-10-14 21:39:28] BitMEX_Sam : But on OKC et al it would work the same way, although it's somewhat fiddly because you can have multiple positions per expiry.
[2015-10-14 21:39:57] BitMEX_Sam : As in, you could submit a closing stop for a position, but if you submitted another sell, that would use up margin because it's another position - the total of your orders puts you back into exposure.
[2015-10-14 21:41:29] Yumi : stop orders (trigger orders) dont consume margin on okc
[2015-10-14 21:42:43] Yumi : and from what I remember I could have stop open on bfx and close position anyway even without free margin
[2015-10-14 21:43:55] Yumi : its very unintuitive
[2015-10-14 21:44:12] BitMEX_Sam : If you were to submit another sell order on OKC, it would consume margin
[2015-10-14 21:46:32] Yumi : I can put any trigger order I want on OKC with no margin
[2015-10-14 21:46:47] Yumi : its not being reserved
[2015-10-14 21:48:13] BitMEX_Sam : It may just cancel open triggers if there is no longer funds for them
[2015-10-14 21:49:32] Yumi : I guess, and on bfx it does check if I have margin to buy/sell on stop orders but it doesnt stops me from closing position
[2015-10-14 21:53:20] Yumi : I dont say you have to do it same as other exchanges Im just saying stop orders reserving margin is very unintuitive
[2015-10-14 21:53:34] BitMEX_Sam : I understand - Wally and I will talk about this
[2015-10-14 22:16:06] Yumi : There is another feature that confuses me. If Im short 10 contracts at 250 and I want to sell 10 more if price hits 240 it wont let me put in such stop order if I have isolate margin on
[2015-10-14 22:35:43] doTheBounce : Hey, what is CashRebalance ? in https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet
[2015-10-14 22:52:32] Yumi : read here https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation#contract-settlement-rebalance
[2015-10-15 01:47:39] peasant-wizard : I'm checking out the Volume on BitMEX XBT Futures Weekly on Cryptowatch and the last two days have been highest volume yet?
[2015-10-15 01:50:47] peasant-wizard : And higher volume than monthly ATH. Nice. Are the dailies going to end up on cryptowatch?
[2015-10-15 01:50:48] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes that is oorrect
[2015-10-15 01:50:59] BitMEX_Arthur : We will speak to thema bout it
[2015-10-15 03:02:34] Yumi : I never realized how badly stop orders are implemented untill I used up my margin, I cant have both SL and TP at same time unless I have additional free margin. It gives me headache
[2015-10-15 03:13:38] BitMEX_Wally : Yumi: We are looking into implementing OCO orders which will not require additional margin
[2015-10-15 03:20:46] Yumi : cant wait
[2015-10-15 03:23:04] AudibleScience : very nice
[2015-10-15 03:25:05] Yumi : maybe you should distinguish between SL order and Trigger order
[2015-10-15 03:25:27] BitMEX_Wally : SL = StopLimit?
[2015-10-15 03:25:31] Yumi : as sl I mean stop loss
[2015-10-15 03:26:14] Yumi : allow stop loss only to offset
[2015-10-15 03:26:37] BitMEX_Wally : If you are long 100 contracts then you can have an order to sell 100 contracts without requiring additional margin
[2015-10-15 03:26:54] BitMEX_Wally : The problem in this case is that you want 2 orders to sell. One a stop loss, and one a take profit.
[2015-10-15 03:27:22] BitMEX_Wally : At the moment one of those orders will require additional margin because theoretically you could end up short if they both were executed
[2015-10-15 03:28:26] BitMEX_Wally : Once we support OCO orders we will only require margin for one of the order legs, and in your case this would be netted against your open position so no extra margin needed
[2015-10-15 03:29:21] Yumi : yes, I know
[2015-10-15 03:30:20] Yumi : I had other issues earlier, you can scroll chat up
[2015-10-15 03:39:46] BitMEX_Wally : Yumi: Thanks, I'll look into it
[2015-10-15 04:07:52] Adriyelalanthomas : if i long a xbth16 and short a xxbtz15 will create a spread like trade
[2015-10-15 04:11:23] Adriyelalanthomas : hello
[2015-10-15 04:13:12] j8 : yes
[2015-10-15 04:14:24] Adriyelalanthomas : great i was told that but i cant figue out the math..lol
[2015-10-15 04:15:49] Adriyelalanthomas : the first contract is higher than the second xbth16(higher) xbtz15(lower)
[2015-10-15 04:16:48] j8 : https://blog.bitmex.com/bitcoin-futures-basis-trading-lesson-2/
[2015-10-15 04:17:16] Adriyelalanthomas : thank you
[2015-10-15 04:39:45] macios15 : going 1680 probably
[2015-10-15 05:45:03] Adriyelalanthomas : do you accept traders from the usa
[2015-10-15 05:49:08] BitMEX_Wally : Adriyelalanthomas: No, as per our terms and conditions
[2015-10-15 06:46:35] BitMEX_Arthur : Another day of ATH volumes on BitMEX thank you traders
[2015-10-15 06:50:05] TraderStefan : Well done BitMEX team
[2015-10-15 06:56:04] zanza : wow!
[2015-10-15 06:56:13] zanza : the new 100x seems to be a success
[2015-10-15 06:56:48] zanza : apparently bitfinexx has been losing volume for months now
[2015-10-15 06:58:31] BitMEX_Arthur : Yeah
[2015-10-15 06:58:37] BitMEX_Arthur : All the glitches
[2015-10-15 06:58:41] BitMEX_Arthur : not going over well with users
[2015-10-15 06:58:57] AudibleScience : You created this awesome place making it possible for us to trade here so thank you BitMEX! @BitMEX_Arthur
[2015-10-15 07:27:35] macios15 : just got here form ok coin, this site is great
[2015-10-15 07:32:01] BitMEX_Arthur : Thanks
[2015-10-15 07:32:04] BitMEX_Arthur : If you have any questions let us know
[2015-10-15 07:32:10] BitMEX_Arthur : we are hear to help
[2015-10-15 07:34:06] hyesoo : how can i get withdraw txid??
[2015-10-15 07:34:22] hyesoo : i cant found that..
[2015-10-15 07:38:13] BitMEX_Wally : hyesoo: Due to transaction malleability we do not provide txids
[2015-10-15 07:38:51] BitMEX_Wally : If you have a withdrawal that is marked as Completed in our system but you cannot see it on the blockchain then please email support@bitmex.com
[2015-10-15 07:58:56] BitMEX_Arthur : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-13/death-hopium
[2015-10-15 07:58:59] BitMEX_Arthur : Something I found interesting
[2015-10-15 08:05:39] lockhedge : wow 5013 XBT 24h turnover on XBT24H, congratulations Arthur, Wally and Sam :)
[2015-10-15 08:09:57] BitMEX_Wally : :)
[2015-10-15 08:26:54] macios15 : double top, head and shoulders pattern? let the dump begin
[2015-10-15 08:27:38] BitMEX_Arthur : My feeling exactly
[2015-10-15 08:27:44] BitMEX_Arthur : i think we go to 248-250
[2015-10-15 08:27:52] BitMEX_Arthur : resume pump Sunday or Monday
[2015-10-15 08:29:01] macios15 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNPJuJSVmNA
[2015-10-15 08:38:03] macios15 : was any flash crashes in history of this site?
[2015-10-15 08:39:09] BitMEX_Wally : macios15: No, we do not allow liquidations to trigger more liquidations
[2015-10-15 08:39:35] BitMEX_Wally : We use the TradeBlock XBX index which is a smoothed average of all the major exchange prices
[2015-10-15 08:39:42] macios15 : great
[2015-10-15 10:55:05] AudibleScience : do you think we'll go back down a bit before the daily settling ?@BitMEX_Arthur
[2015-10-15 11:19:10] AudibleScience : While I think about it, what happens to a short position at the time of the daily settling of XBT24H?
[2015-10-15 11:20:38] BitMEX_Wally : AudibleScience: The same as what happens to long positions
[2015-10-15 11:21:37] AudibleScience : does it make any difference if I take care of it myself before the time?
[2015-10-15 11:23:06] BitMEX_Wally : There's the difference in price
[2015-10-15 11:23:42] BitMEX_Wally : You can either wait until settlement and it will be closed out at the settlement price, or you can close it out yourself in whatever price you can get in the order book.
[2015-10-15 11:24:25] cengel : and you can avoid taker fee at settlement if you get filled making preclose
[2015-10-15 11:25:21] BitMEX_Wally : cengel: Good point
[2015-10-15 11:38:16] AudibleScience : Does it always settle right at 13:00, and is there any way for me to convert a position to another contract type that will not settle in less than 30 mins?
[2015-10-15 11:39:16] AudibleScience : Those are probably really stupid questions I know...
[2015-10-15 11:40:05] BitMEX_Wally : `XBT24H` settles every day at 12:00 UTC
[2015-10-15 11:40:21] BitMEX_Wally : You could open a position in `XBT7D` which settles every Friday 12:00 UTC
[2015-10-15 11:43:54] cengel : sunday we have a time shift DST
[2015-10-15 11:44:30] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah, the frontend will show local time in your browser
[2015-10-15 11:49:03] BitMEX_Wally : BitMEX has overtaken OKCoin.com and Coinbase in exchange volume: http://exchangewar.info/#bitmex
[2015-10-15 11:51:11] jung1 : woodchipper? never heard about this
[2015-10-15 11:52:04] BitMEX_Wally : OK_Coin
[2015-10-15 11:52:17] BitMEX_Wally : We do not allow swear words in this troll box
[2015-10-15 11:52:28] BitMEX_Wally : Like f*ck or OKC**n
[2015-10-15 11:53:35] jung1 : +1
[2015-10-15 12:01:01] lockhedge : :)
[2015-10-15 12:01:31] cengel : if you make 500x maybe you reach top 3
[2015-10-15 12:02:36] loke : BitMEX_Wally: Is it possible to download ones entire trading history?
[2015-10-15 12:03:52] BitMEX_Wally : cengel: I like your thinking
[2015-10-15 12:04:41] BitMEX_Wally : loke: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2015-10-15 12:04:58] AudibleScience : 500x would be amazing !
[2015-10-15 12:05:09] BitMEX_Wally : loke: This might be limited to 100 rows, the API will give you more
[2015-10-15 12:05:31] loke : Ah, yeah that was the issue/
[2015-10-15 12:05:36] loke : Many thanks
[2015-10-15 12:07:35] gaoMex : Why is OKC*in known as woodchipper?
[2015-10-15 12:09:03] BitMEX_Wally : <img src="http://i.imgur.com/t0Pw9AN.png">
[2015-10-15 12:09:10] BitMEX_Wally : http://i.imgur.com/t0Pw9AN.png
[2015-10-15 12:09:28] jung1 : gaoMex: zero fees
[2015-10-15 12:10:32] BitMEX_Wally : They are not zero fees for futures
[2015-10-15 12:12:54] gaoMex : I do see a lot of wash trading going on to the extent of being ridiculous, like 50,000 BTC within a minute.
[2015-10-15 12:13:50] gaoMex : There's obviously market makers too, though is it OKC*in themselves or third-party, no one really knows.
[2015-10-15 12:14:15] cengel : according to their former CTO it is both
[2015-10-15 12:14:59] gaoMex : I agree also that their former CTO was REKT.
[2015-10-15 12:15:20] cengel : theyre known as woochipper because look at how their futures move compared to spot
[2015-10-15 12:15:38] cengel : and they seem to always push to big margin calls
[2015-10-15 12:16:14] cengel : you get exaggerated whipsaws that dont happen on spot
[2015-10-15 12:16:46] gaoMex : and their API always freeze when there is big movement.
[2015-10-15 12:19:11] gaoMex : the problem is no one has concrete evidence.
[2015-10-15 12:19:11] jung1 : whats your prediction about btc price? I think we have still some space to grow
[2015-10-15 12:20:10] cengel : i disagree. an ex-employee at C level is concrete evidence
[2015-10-15 12:20:43] jung1 : source?
[2015-10-15 12:20:54] gaoMex : Yes, that's a big red flag.
[2015-10-15 12:21:24] cengel : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/37tm1b/czs_statement_regarding_the_dispute_between/
[2015-10-15 12:21:44] cengel : if this is new to you, grab some popcorn and enjoy
[2015-10-15 12:21:50] gaoMex : I'm really grateful to BitMEX for offering alternative, else traders really have no choice but to continue on OKC*in.
[2015-10-15 12:22:40] BitMEX_Wally : We'll be launching Chinese language support soon
[2015-10-15 12:22:52] gaoMex : jung1: I reference https://blockchain.info/charts/market-cap?showDataPoints=false&timespan=&show_header=true&daysAverageString=7&scale=0&address=
[2015-10-15 12:23:19] gaoMex : The rally is just starting.
[2015-10-15 12:23:37] cengel : or just ending
[2015-10-15 12:23:57] jung1 : yeah
[2015-10-15 12:24:08] jung1 : bitcoin will be worthless or worth a lot
[2015-10-15 12:24:18] gaoMex : cengel: My time frame is over several months.
[2015-10-15 12:24:21] cengel : no i see 200 as floor
[2015-10-15 12:25:48] jung1 : I think we have some space to grow now. A lot of investments from finacial sector,new solutions, bts, augur, openledger, all this stuff will add a lot money to bitcoin ecosystem
[2015-10-15 12:37:47] macios15 : we hit 1680 today then, corection
[2015-10-15 12:42:02] gaoMex : If woodchipper is running fractional reserve like Gox, how will it explode? What will be the tell-tale signs?
[2015-10-15 12:42:53] Matthew.v : tell tale signs are USD no longer supported.
[2015-10-15 12:44:46] gaoMex : Matthew.v: explain?
[2015-10-15 12:47:20] Matthew.v : well 6 months before gox hit the rocks they had USD accounts seized, and subsequemtly stopped USD withdraws
[2015-10-15 12:48:42] gaoMex : I recall other currencies were affected too, save for YEN.
[2015-10-15 12:50:06] gaoMex : China is different from Japan. Can expect people to charge to the office when that happens.
[2015-10-15 13:04:00] cengel : maybe the basis needs tweaking it is a litlte out of step
[2015-10-15 13:04:45] BitMEX_Arthur : cengel: On which contracts?
[2015-10-15 13:05:45] cengel : its not huge, but on V15, H16
[2015-10-15 13:21:05] macios15 : if i hit liquidation price do i lose half of btc or all
[2015-10-15 13:21:22] BitMEX_Arthur : On which contract?
[2015-10-15 13:21:46] macios15 : 7D
[2015-10-15 13:22:26] BitMEX_Arthur : The maintenance margin is 1%
[2015-10-15 13:22:51] BitMEX_Arthur : Say you have a position of 100 Bitcoin, you post 2 Bitcoin of initial margin, when the price drops 1% we liquidate you
[2015-10-15 13:23:01] BitMEX_Arthur : and use the remaining 1% to close out your order
[2015-10-15 13:23:04] BitMEX_Arthur : to avoid a system loss
[2015-10-15 13:24:08] macios15 : so its different then wood chipper
[2015-10-15 13:24:36] macios15 : dont lose 100% just about lest then 50%
[2015-10-15 13:25:16] macios15 : i mean more
[2015-10-15 13:26:43] BitMEX_Wally : OKC*in require 4% initial margin and 1% maintenance margin. We require 2% initial margin and 1% maintenance margin.
[2015-10-15 13:26:59] BitMEX_Wally : So its very similar but you get more leverage
[2015-10-15 13:42:25] jung1 : hey bitmex which android app you recomend to trade on bitmex?
[2015-10-15 13:42:51] BitMEX_Sam : jung1: There aren't any that we know of that support the exchange, but the website itself works well on mobile
[2015-10-15 13:44:08] peasant-wizard : I can second that, the site is beautifully responsive.
[2015-10-15 13:44:25] peasant-wizard : Samsung S5 very pleasant experience
[2015-10-15 13:45:30] BitMEX_Sam : I'm working on some good speed improvements as we speak
[2015-10-15 13:45:41] BitMEX_Sam : So it will get better in the future.
[2015-10-15 13:45:54] jung1 : how many users do you have now?
[2015-10-15 13:46:41] BitMEX_Arthur : jung1: That is not something we disclose publicly, but I can tell you we are growing rapidly
[2015-10-15 13:47:58] peasant-wizard : jung1: You can check out the volume on something like cryptowatch. https://cryptowat.ch/bitmex/xbt-weekly-futures/1day - volume doesn't necessarily = users but...
[2015-10-15 13:48:00] jung1 : good to hear that
[2015-10-15 13:49:14] jung1 : there's a lot of space in crypto ecosystem. We need professional tools
[2015-10-15 13:50:11] jung1 : but futures on bitcoin is still niche. For someone who dont know what it is it sounds like enron 2.0
[2015-10-15 13:51:25] peasant-wizard : This is my first time trading futures. The XBX index sealed the deal
[2015-10-15 13:51:40] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, XBX is really well run, TradeBlock does a good job with it
[2015-10-15 13:51:48] BitMEX_Wally : Enron was just good old fashioned accounting fraud
[2015-10-15 13:52:50] jung1 : BitMEX_Wally: I know but its quite easy to imagine similarity between trading electricity and magic internet money
[2015-10-15 13:56:10] peasant-wizard : On XBT7D, my realized PNL is tracked through the week, while the Unrealized PNL is my current position? I can go long, short, close and open positions, and that Realized PNL is what I end up with on settlement?
[2015-10-15 13:57:08] BitMEX_Sam : peasant-wizard: We're actually pushing an update to that right now that will make it a little simpler
[2015-10-15 13:57:18] BitMEX_Sam : Will be live in about 5 minutes - then we'll get into a bit more detail
[2015-10-15 13:57:59] peasant-wizard : Very satisfying that most my questions end up like this :)
[2015-10-15 13:58:43] jung1 : hehe 5 min after question there is update. I give you 5 stars for support
[2015-10-15 13:59:09] peasant-wizard : Happened yesterday too
[2015-10-15 14:01:36] macios15 : U could add unrealised PNL/initial margin in %, should look more legibly
[2015-10-15 14:02:12] peasant-wizard : % of what?
[2015-10-15 14:02:37] macios15 : i mean profit
[2015-10-15 14:02:50] BitMEX_Arthur : You mean return on equity?
[2015-10-15 14:03:08] macios15 : yep
[2015-10-15 14:03:27] BitMEX_Arthur : We are working on displaying that, that will be released shortly
[2015-10-15 14:03:48] BitMEX_Sam : What timing. ROE is part of the update deploying in a few minutes.
[2015-10-15 14:04:14] jung1 : and will be also quite helpfull to be able to see value of portfolio in $ in some period of time. On chart for example
[2015-10-15 14:04:56] jung1 : something like overview of wallet. Will be easier to menage all trades
[2015-10-15 14:13:46] peasant-wizard : macios15: There is a % of contract profit in the Order Controls panel, in parentheses next to entry price.
[2015-10-15 14:16:34] BitMEX_Sam : peasant-wizard: Sorry, no, that's not your ROE - that's the difference between your entry price and mark price
[2015-10-15 14:16:42] BitMEX_Sam : Green if it was in your favor, red if not
[2015-10-15 14:16:55] BitMEX_Sam : Please refresh and take a look at the positions panel, ROE is there
[2015-10-15 14:25:01] macios15 : how big is fee and when its paid
[2015-10-15 14:25:15] cengel : love it Sam looks great
[2015-10-15 14:25:22] BitMEX_Arthur : macios15: You mean the fee schedule?
[2015-10-15 14:25:38] macios15 : yep
[2015-10-15 14:25:56] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2015-10-15 14:26:03] BitMEX_Arthur : There is the full schedule
[2015-10-15 14:26:17] macios15 : ty
[2015-10-15 14:27:02] cengel : Sam not be a bugger but do you maybe have an ETA for adding to isolate margin
[2015-10-15 14:27:24] BitMEX_Arthur : You mean customisable margin levels?
[2015-10-15 14:27:40] cengel : yes
[2015-10-15 14:27:47] cengel : Wally said last it was in engine but not yet to API
[2015-10-15 14:28:03] BitMEX_Arthur : We are working on it, can't give a firm ETA but it is the top of our dev list
[2015-10-15 14:28:17] cengel : thanks
[2015-10-15 14:30:03] AudibleScience : is anyone else still expecting a retracement?
[2015-10-15 14:31:35] macios15 : in which scale
[2015-10-15 14:32:27] macios15 : boom some nice buys
[2015-10-15 14:33:13] cengel : Moon always
[2015-10-15 14:33:49] macios15 : boom again
[2015-10-15 14:33:51] AudibleScience : sleep deprivation is affecting my ability to think objectively I think!
[2015-10-15 14:34:06] macios15 : AudibleScience: +1
[2015-10-15 14:35:11] macios15 : love it +35% already and its just starting the rocket
[2015-10-15 14:38:08] peasant-wizard : BitMEX_Sam: Wups, thanks for the correction. Obvious now...
[2015-10-15 14:40:15] AudibleScience : macios15: do you think we'll see 254 again today?
[2015-10-15 14:41:07] peasant-wizard : AudibleScience: The Tradingview chat or Bitcoinmarkets daily might be a better place to ask those questions. I personally hope not but if we do I'll be adding to me long
[2015-10-15 14:42:34] macios15 : it depends if we break 257 probably not
[2015-10-15 14:43:48] peasant-wizard : Getting into oversold territory on lower time frames but I can't deny the 3D / weekly...
[2015-10-15 14:44:17] macios15 : take nov spike, july spike and thats the last resistance
[2015-10-15 14:45:07] macios15 : broked already on couple of exchanges
[2015-10-15 14:46:02] peasant-wizard : Yeah it looks like we broke through. I don't know about a full-on FOMO situation but I could see this just drifting higher and higher
[2015-10-15 14:48:19] macios15 : at 1W stoch rsi we are getin up thats was alwas starting historically small bubble, also we got above 3d bbands nad 3d stoch rsi is not geting down
[2015-10-15 14:49:24] macios15 : i bet we see corection next week to that 1W support like 245-250
[2015-10-15 14:49:32] peasant-wizard : If we do go down I expect it to be harsh - but I've got some fiat waiting for just that occasion
[2015-10-15 14:51:09] macios15 : jea could be brutal, finex longs are huge
[2015-10-15 14:53:57] peasant-wizard : Good luck with your trades! I'm off to my real job hope to come back to profits
[2015-10-15 14:54:46] AudibleScience : Hey thanks man! I just cut my losses and am now long.
[2015-10-15 16:25:30] loke : my chart profit figures are out of whack. sadly.
[2015-10-15 16:27:30] BitMEX_Wally : loke: Which contract?
[2015-10-15 16:27:53] loke : xbtv15
[2015-10-15 16:28:27] BitMEX_Wally : It might be because we now show the original order entry price (before the rebalancing)
[2015-10-15 16:29:29] loke : ok so cumulative p/l since last friday?
[2015-10-15 16:29:53] BitMEX_Wally : For the current open quantity
[2015-10-15 16:30:33] BitMEX_Wally : Check with BitMEX_Sam
[2015-10-15 16:31:35] loke : would it be possible to also show per current "trade" or oscillation past zero exposure?
[2015-10-15 16:36:34] BitMEX_Wally : Your `Realised PNL` now includes any rebalanced PNL
[2015-10-15 16:37:32] j8 : and does the entry price change at rebalance?
[2015-10-15 16:37:48] BitMEX_Wally : It does (for PNL calculations) but I think we now show the old price on the frontend
[2015-10-15 16:38:23] BitMEX_Wally : So `Entry Price` is the original entry price, but some of the pnl may have moved from `Unrealised PNL` to `Realised PNL`
[2015-10-15 16:38:39] aethlios : Hello, your fee structure is nice, but I think that if you keep 0.05% taker fee and change the maker fee to -0.005% (a small rebate), will attract more market makers and reduce bid ask spread.
[2015-10-15 16:38:58] j8 : ok, that makes the most sense
[2015-10-15 16:39:33] BitMEX_Wally : aethlios: The spread on `XBT24H` is currently 8 bps
[2015-10-15 16:39:42] BitMEX_Wally : That's tighter than spot
[2015-10-15 16:43:58] vbmithr : 10K bitcoin is really huge!
[2015-10-15 16:44:08] vbmithr : http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/#markets
[2015-10-15 16:44:27] vbmithr : If I look at this this would put you above Kraken
[2015-10-15 16:44:31] vbmithr : Am I right?
[2015-10-15 16:45:18] vbmithr : Am I right -> the thing Walter says in "The big lebowksi"
[2015-10-15 16:54:33] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, we above Kraken, Coinbase, BTC-e, itBit
[2015-10-15 16:55:30] BitMEX_Wally : Excluding the Chinese exchanges we are #3 after Bitstamp and Bitfinex
[2015-10-15 16:56:19] Yumi : its great volume is getting big but you should be careful comparing spot exchanges with futures
[2015-10-15 16:56:20] BitMEX_Wally : http://exchangewar.info/#bitmex
[2015-10-15 17:24:54] jung1 : but to be clear. That 11k volume is amount of whole collateral or margin positions?
[2015-10-15 17:25:42] BitMEX_Arthur : leveraged notional
[2015-10-15 17:26:32] BitMEX_Wally : We don't double count buys and sell like some Chinese exchanges...
[2015-10-15 19:46:46] macios15 : we go up again i think
[2015-10-15 19:47:15] macios15 : that triple top did nothing
[2015-10-15 19:53:45] BitMEX_Sam : We just edged out Bitfinex's volume in the last 24hrs, thanks to all our new traders - amazing growth.
[2015-10-15 20:08:54] jung1 : hehe XBT24H chart looks awesome. Same movements in same period of time
[2015-10-15 20:10:36] BitMEX_Sam : Yep, very similar.
[2015-10-15 21:46:55] zebulon303 : Hi, just landed here .... coming from "regular" trading place ... bitfinex, kraken .... feeling a bit lost and confused here .... where should I start to learn ? any tutorial on youtube or other advices ?
[2015-10-15 21:49:14] BitMEX_Sam : Sure, start with our FAQ (https://www.bitmex.com/app/faq) and comparison (https://www.bitmex.com/app/whatsDifferent)
[2015-10-15 21:49:39] BitMEX_Sam : Our CEO did a video a few months ago detailing some basic trades, too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEMjYgPjQX0
[2015-10-15 21:53:12] zebulon303 : Great, thanks, was just reading the faq
[2015-10-15 22:20:33] cryptokeeper : Hey guys! Any plans for a mobile app?
[2015-10-15 22:20:38] cryptokeeper : or not until down the road?
[2015-10-15 22:24:27] BitMEX_Sam : cryptokeeper: Not for a little while. We'll be dramatically improving performance across the board shortly
[2015-10-15 22:24:39] BitMEX_Sam : That will help mobile site users for a while. But a native app is definitely in the cards.
[2015-10-15 22:24:47] cryptokeeper : cool yeah i am sure there are many other things on the dynamic priority list :)
[2015-10-15 22:24:58] cryptokeeper : good to know
[2015-10-15 22:25:14] cryptokeeper : thx
[2015-10-16 01:24:35] AudibleScience : Are you there @BitMEX_Sam
[2015-10-16 01:28:40] AudibleScience : did you see what happened?
[2015-10-16 01:32:36] BitMEX_Sam : AudibleScience: I suppose not, what are you referring to?
[2015-10-16 01:33:21] AudibleScience : can you see my acc.
[2015-10-16 01:33:58] AudibleScience : Unbelievable eh!
[2015-10-16 01:35:21] AudibleScience : And now... they finally got it working again, although way too late to help avoid this!
[2015-10-16 01:37:29] AudibleScience : Can you see inside my account though?
[2015-10-16 01:39:09] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, we have the ability to do lookups, but it's pretty involved and locked down
[2015-10-16 01:41:30] AudibleScience : Oh, don't worry about it then Sam...
[2015-10-16 01:51:32] AudibleScience : basically, I got into a real equity problem when the market moved against me earlier...
[2015-10-16 01:54:27] AudibleScience : And as you now, the whole thing could have so easily been avoided
[2015-10-16 02:01:41] AudibleScience : know*
[2015-10-16 02:02:55] BitMEX_Sam : Right - sorry to hear about that. Be careful with leverage
[2015-10-16 02:05:46] AudibleScience : yeah... but I have to be careful not to trade when sleep deprived too! lol That's really the killer for me...
[2015-10-16 02:08:16] AudibleScience : leverage is inherently a double edge sword, but it's always the same... a known quantity per se...
[2015-10-16 02:10:30] AudibleScience : But no sleep and the slow and unnoticed evaporation of the ability to make sound rational trading decisions... that's tha real killer man! lol
[2015-10-16 02:11:27] cekseh : Sounds like a great recipe to lose money
[2015-10-16 02:12:15] AudibleScience : exactly @cekseh
[2015-10-16 02:12:27] AudibleScience : very bad indeed!
[2015-10-16 02:27:19] BombaUcigasa : Nice ROE indicator Sam :)
[2015-10-16 02:46:18] hashman : "Due to the low price volatility, we has increased leverage on our daily (XBT24H) and weekly (XBT7D) "
[2015-10-16 02:46:25] hashman : "we has" - we have
[2015-10-16 02:46:27] hashman : typo
[2015-10-16 02:46:47] hashman : and the ROE %is cool
[2015-10-16 03:00:08] BombaUcigasa : I can has leverage
[2015-10-16 03:00:22] BombaUcigasa : wow, 50x weekly
[2015-10-16 03:00:43] uiop : u can has
[2015-10-16 03:24:26] hashman : any one else have issue with the "open positions" tab not updating the mark price and PNL properly - only on XBTV15
[2015-10-16 03:25:07] hashman : nevermind
[2015-10-16 03:25:28] hashman : some temporary lag on my end i think
[2015-10-16 03:25:41] jmahh : hm, had something similar, just refreshed
[2015-10-16 03:26:14] hashman : yeah its intermittent
[2015-10-16 03:26:45] BitMEX_Arthur : What is happening?
[2015-10-16 03:32:12] hashman : on XBTV15 - - My unrealized PNL on open positions tab is not updating. for example very different profit numbers shown on the recent trades chart
[2015-10-16 03:39:49] BitMEX_Arthur : Can you screenshot and send to support@bitmex.com
[2015-10-16 03:43:55] BitMEX_Wally : hashman: Unrealised PNL is calculated using the mark price, which is from the underlying index. Not the last price of the future
[2015-10-16 03:49:07] hashman : that must be it. there's over $2 difference between mark price and last price on xbtv15
[2015-10-16 03:50:17] BitMEX_Wally : Cool. We use the underlying index price for calculating unrealised pnl so that it is not possible to force margin calls or liquidations
[2015-10-16 03:51:36] hashman : the mark price just jumped up
[2015-10-16 03:53:55] hashman : interesting it seems the isolate margin is effectively like a stop loss feature
[2015-10-16 03:55:11] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, but you lose more equity if the system takes over the position
[2015-10-16 03:55:20] BitMEX_Wally : So best to place Stop Limit orders yourself
[2015-10-16 04:00:23] BitMEX_Wally : hashman: I have just checked the code, the Recent Trades Chart shows you 'Total PNL' which is 'Unrealised PNL' + 'Realised PNL'
[2015-10-16 04:00:48] hashman : thats why
[2015-10-16 04:01:01] hashman : makes sense now
[2015-10-16 04:01:36] hashman : thxs
[2015-10-16 04:03:24] hashman : when you say lose more equity when system takes over vs. stop limit order- can you explain why? is it because the system does a market order to liquidate?
[2015-10-16 04:11:46] bobthenager : Hey guys first time being here. What is initial margin for btc?
[2015-10-16 04:12:07] bobthenager : and where can I adjust this if possible
[2015-10-16 04:12:15] bobthenager : thanks
[2015-10-16 04:13:45] BitMEX_Wally : Initial margin is the minimum amount of equity you must put up to open a position
[2015-10-16 04:14:11] BitMEX_Wally : For example, `XBT24H` has a 1% initial margin requirement. So if you have a position with a gross value of 100 XBT you need to have at least 1 XBT in your account.
[2015-10-16 04:14:34] BitMEX_Wally : You can put more in of course. Once the position is open just untick 'Isolate Margin'
[2015-10-16 04:14:43] bobthenager : well nvm i guess, looks like you don't take deposits from US?
[2015-10-16 04:14:54] BitMEX_Wally : Correct
[2015-10-16 04:15:06] bobthenager : Do you know of any exchanges that do?
[2015-10-16 04:22:06] jillhomebrew619 : Ccex
[2015-10-16 05:43:50] macios15 : if we get trought 262 price is gona skyrocket
[2015-10-16 05:47:30] Matthew.v : bobthenager: moon
[2015-10-16 06:36:28] zanza : so realized PNL includes rebalances now?
[2015-10-16 06:36:47] zanza : i guess thats useful to have
[2015-10-16 06:36:58] macios15 : jea i noticed that too
[2015-10-16 06:42:47] BitMEX_Arthur : Fancy $260 today traders?
[2015-10-16 07:00:04] BitMEX_Wally : zanza: Yes, and the Entry Price stays the same after rebalancing too. We figured this would be more intuitive.
[2015-10-16 07:01:18] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: thank you for doing that, I had to use Excel to calculate original entry price!
[2015-10-16 07:06:06] macios15 : do u plan to add that realised PNL will be playable on contract before ending?
[2015-10-16 07:06:25] VanCleef : is there a bitmex daily chart on cryptowatch?
[2015-10-16 07:06:31] VanCleef : wanna watch the 100x action
[2015-10-16 07:09:32] macios15 : lift off
[2015-10-16 07:11:40] BitMEX_Arthur : On TradingView XBT1D
[2015-10-16 07:16:09] macios15 : i must admit that fair price is doing good work
[2015-10-16 07:17:13] BitMEX_Arthur : Thank you, we think it is a good way to stop manipulation of the futures market
[2015-10-16 07:37:56] BitMEX_Arthur : A slow staircase up on XBTCNY
[2015-10-16 08:27:42] BitMEX_Arthur : Zoooom
[2015-10-16 08:28:19] Matthew.v : yehaw
[2015-10-16 08:28:33] Matthew.v : xbtH16 is gonna buy me a vacation.
[2015-10-16 08:28:55] gaoMex : BitMEX_Arthur: You are fortune teller? :)
[2015-10-16 08:29:05] BitMEX_Arthur : I wish
[2015-10-16 08:29:29] BitMEX_Arthur : Matthew.v: I assume you are long?
[2015-10-16 08:29:43] Matthew.v : oh yeah,
[2015-10-16 08:30:06] Matthew.v : I got my baptismal first margin call this week :)
[2015-10-16 08:30:33] SnackyCoins : i think i just did too, a little different than before
[2015-10-16 08:30:56] SnackyCoins : i went to buy out of my short and found myself long instead, i can only conclude that i was mc'd moments before the order (margin was isolated, so)
[2015-10-16 08:31:11] SnackyCoins : but the order isn't in my history
[2015-10-16 08:31:14] Matthew.v : damn son...
[2015-10-16 08:31:31] SnackyCoins : oh it was like 0.08 btc lol
[2015-10-16 08:31:34] Matthew.v : perhaps you over bought and cleared the short
[2015-10-16 08:31:36] SnackyCoins : not even a problem
[2015-10-16 08:31:45] Matthew.v : same for my baptism
[2015-10-16 08:31:56] cengel : its like when you join a gang you get beat up for initiation
[2015-10-16 08:31:57] BitMEX_Wally : SnackyCoins: You can see your full trade history here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2015-10-16 08:31:57] SnackyCoins : but i did notice there was no notification
[2015-10-16 08:32:11] BitMEX_Wally : We send an email on liquidation
[2015-10-16 08:32:18] SnackyCoins : not like when i was getting MC'd and had time to fix it, this was instant
[2015-10-16 08:32:38] SnackyCoins : again no problem, just wondering if there is a ui goof :)
[2015-10-16 08:32:51] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah with 100x contracts you're always too close to liquidation to send a notification
[2015-10-16 08:32:59] Matthew.v : I am still taking baby steps getting accostomed to the UI
[2015-10-16 08:33:07] SnackyCoins : margin isolated worked as i had intended :) ahh yeah that makes sense
[2015-10-16 08:33:27] SnackyCoins : ok yep i see it on that other page