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[2016-10-30 22:40:40] wurstgelee : .86 atm btw
[2016-10-30 22:40:42] rapidtrades : so at least we know we get smth for buying...around 70-80 cents
[2016-10-30 22:40:43] wurstgelee : bouncing
[2016-10-30 22:40:54] wurstgelee : .9
[2016-10-30 22:41:40] rapidtrades : definitely bouncing here, this could be vicious
[2016-10-30 22:41:44] mjones : zec yeah buddy
[2016-10-30 22:41:58] rapidtrades : with so many shorts below 1
[2016-10-30 22:42:29] wurstgelee : .92
[2016-10-30 22:42:31] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-30 22:42:41] rapidtrades : it will be 1 soon
[2016-10-30 22:42:58] mjmj83 : and then it goes back to 0.5
[2016-10-30 22:43:10] wurstgelee : "back"?
[2016-10-30 22:43:21] wurstgelee : i cant recall .5 tbh
[2016-10-30 22:43:21] rapidtrades : no we're overdue for a massive rally
[2016-10-30 22:43:24] mjones : not enough dumb money on here any more. everyone got rekt
[2016-10-30 22:43:36] rapidtrades : 100-300% from lows
[2016-10-30 22:43:38] NL007 : liquidation incoming if we go higher with zec
[2016-10-30 22:43:40] wurstgelee : friday was better tbh
[2016-10-30 22:43:46] wurstgelee : regarding dumb money
[2016-10-30 22:43:47] mjones : lost over 1000 users since zec pump
[2016-10-30 22:43:48] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 22:43:53] rapidtrades : so 1.5 or higher
[2016-10-30 22:43:59] wurstgelee : yeah, because its trading on polo now
[2016-10-30 22:44:05] wurstgelee : so polo users went back there
[2016-10-30 22:44:20] wurstgelee : .98
[2016-10-30 22:44:21] rapidtrades : polo users went there cos everyone got marginned here
[2016-10-30 22:44:22] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 22:44:35] mjones : mark to polo price. going above 1. i should have moved all my money to polo this morning and just bought zec. massive pump incoming
[2016-10-30 22:45:11] rapidtrades : yeah easy 2-3 on polo imo these short sqeezes can be vicious
[2016-10-30 22:45:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.327875
[2016-10-30 22:45:26] wurstgelee : polo cant squeeze shorts
[2016-10-30 22:45:30] wurstgelee : there are no shorts ;)
[2016-10-30 22:45:34] rapidtrades : sentiment was 99% ZEC bearish in this chat and no polo, that usually doesn't end well
[2016-10-30 22:45:53] mjones : massive margin calls though if price marked to spot. it would be wild
[2016-10-30 22:46:06] wurstgelee : haha
[2016-10-30 22:46:07] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-10-30 22:46:12] wurstgelee : looking forward to it
[2016-10-30 22:46:13] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-10-30 22:46:29] wurstgelee : qualifiying volume is reached in a few hours
[2016-10-30 22:46:37] wurstgelee : 1000 zec
[2016-10-30 22:46:54] mjmj83 : And then it takes another 24 hours
[2016-10-30 22:47:01] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-10-30 22:47:01] iefken : already reached that according to https://explorer.zcha.in/
[2016-10-30 22:47:06] rapidtrades : yeah that bar was set too high
[2016-10-30 22:47:12] wurstgelee : iefken: per exchange iirc
[2016-10-30 22:47:17] rapidtrades : cos as time goes on ppl lose interest
[2016-10-30 22:47:18] wurstgelee : mjmj83: so?
[2016-10-30 22:47:22] rapidtrades : and volume drops
[2016-10-30 22:47:30] mjmj83 : 24 hours after their announcement.. still can take 12 hours
[2016-10-30 22:47:46] rapidtrades : it really should've been marked to polo days ago but we all know the scam bitmex is running on ZEC
[2016-10-30 22:47:47] mjmj83 : You expect that ZEC will trade around 1 btc tomorrow?
[2016-10-30 22:47:58] mjmj83 : With all the miners dumping their ZEC's?
[2016-10-30 22:47:59] wurstgelee : in a week, so 5 days from now, total supply will be ~ 3k
[2016-10-30 22:48:06] rapidtrades : ZEC is trading at 0.9 now so yes @mjmj83
[2016-10-30 22:48:07] y1uy : mjmj83: what announcement?
[2016-10-30 22:48:08] rapidtrades : 1 is easy
[2016-10-30 22:48:10] wurstgelee : i doubt we wont have marking until then
[2016-10-30 22:48:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.350000
[2016-10-30 22:48:33] wurstgelee : there we go
[2016-10-30 22:48:35] mjmj83 : y1uy: the announcement of bitmex that it will do the marking
[2016-10-30 22:48:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 6 @ 0.376250
[2016-10-30 22:48:41] wurstgelee : lol :D
[2016-10-30 22:48:48] rapidtrades : f*ck the shorts....wish i bought it myself
[2016-10-30 22:48:55] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: lol u didnt? ;)
[2016-10-30 22:48:57] y1uy : mjmj83: how wil lthat affect the price?
[2016-10-30 22:49:01] rapidtrades : to have that sweet feeling of revenge
[2016-10-30 22:49:03] y1uy : XMR breakout
[2016-10-30 22:49:05] y1uy : 4h
[2016-10-30 22:49:20] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: well no we didn't agree....we need sleger money
[2016-10-30 22:49:20] mjmj83 : y1uy: depends on what the price at polo is at that time
[2016-10-30 22:49:36] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: no reason not to get some orders filled .3 - .25 ;)
[2016-10-30 22:49:50] rapidtrades : i don't average losers
[2016-10-30 22:49:54] y1uy : mjmj83: the marking is the price on the source exchange right??
[2016-10-30 22:49:58] rapidtrades : plus i can't trust bitmex
[2016-10-30 22:51:54] mjmj83 : y1uy: correct
[2016-10-30 22:52:16] wurstgelee : the source exchange will be polo
[2016-10-30 22:52:21] mjmj83 : Right now it's still 6x more profitable to mine zcash compared to Ethereum.. if i'm correct
[2016-10-30 22:52:24] wurstgelee : as usual
[2016-10-30 22:52:26] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-10-30 22:52:29] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 694.13
[2016-10-30 22:52:29] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1233 @ 694.18
[2016-10-30 22:52:29] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 694.11
[2016-10-30 22:52:33] mjmj83 : so miners will dump it
[2016-10-30 22:52:52] wurstgelee : btc losing momentum
[2016-10-30 22:53:02] wurstgelee : altsareback etc
[2016-10-30 22:53:02] sleger : btc going down is also reducing available margin of zec shorters
[2016-10-30 22:53:09] wurstgelee : hehe :D
[2016-10-30 22:53:18] wurstgelee : that
[2016-10-30 22:53:22] rapidtrades : good, the perfect storm
[2016-10-30 22:53:34] rapidtrades : it was a 'sure bet' they said
[2016-10-30 22:53:43] wurstgelee : looking shitty for .3 shorts here
[2016-10-30 22:53:50] rapidtrades : they were wrong :)
[2016-10-30 22:53:53] y1uy : i think btc will consolidate at 680-690 for a few days
[2016-10-30 22:53:54] wurstgelee : but i have been preaching that all day.... :p
[2016-10-30 22:54:06] wurstgelee : y1uy: which would mean that alts pump
[2016-10-30 22:54:11] wurstgelee : they are already doing that
[2016-10-30 22:54:12] wurstgelee : right now ;)
[2016-10-30 22:54:30] wurstgelee : consolidation -> alt moon
[2016-10-30 22:54:42] y1uy : wurstgelee: exactly
[2016-10-30 22:55:07] wurstgelee : polo top volume list is pretty clear about that :p
[2016-10-30 22:55:24] NL007 : i wouldnt be suprised if zec is pumped over 1btc again
[2016-10-30 22:55:32] wurstgelee : NL007: not at all
[2016-10-30 22:56:02] wurstgelee : perfect whale toy with that low supply
[2016-10-30 22:56:13] wurstgelee : polo whales will want to have some fun with that
[2016-10-30 22:56:16] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 22:56:34] NL007 : wurstgelee: for now yes not in 72hrs
[2016-10-30 22:56:50] wurstgelee : NL007: in 3 days?
[2016-10-30 22:57:11] wurstgelee : supply will be 1300 then...
[2016-10-30 22:57:22] wurstgelee : 20% locked dev and vc funds included
[2016-10-30 22:57:33] wurstgelee : so ~ 1 k
[2016-10-30 22:57:41] wurstgelee : thats nothing
[2016-10-30 22:57:57] NL007 : supply will be 4-5k
[2016-10-30 22:58:10] y1uy : antshares looks taty
[2016-10-30 22:58:13] y1uy : tasty
[2016-10-30 22:58:41] wurstgelee : NL007: maybe, my math is prob off today
[2016-10-30 22:58:43] wurstgelee : but even if...
[2016-10-30 22:58:47] wurstgelee : almost nothing
[2016-10-30 22:58:48] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-10-30 22:59:00] NL007 : wurstgelee: https://forum.z.cash/t/buy-or-sell-zcash/1511/35
[2016-10-30 22:59:14] wurstgelee : NL007: i have a different spreadsheet
[2016-10-30 22:59:21] wurstgelee : cba to check myself which one is right
[2016-10-30 22:59:34] wurstgelee : "few k" is precise enough for me tho
[2016-10-30 22:59:34] NL007 : wurstgelee: ok
[2016-10-30 22:59:36] Rado : People are happy to short at high 0.30s
[2016-10-30 23:00:10] rapidtrades : idk we have to rally sometime
[2016-10-30 23:00:23] rapidtrades : nothing goes down in a straight line
[2016-10-30 23:00:38] Rado : That was the rally
[2016-10-30 23:00:40] rapidtrades : on polo i mean, this place is a joke
[2016-10-30 23:00:48] rapidtrades : nah that was <50%
[2016-10-30 23:00:55] rapidtrades : after 2 days with 80% losses
[2016-10-30 23:01:07] Rado : Low 0.70s to 0.95
[2016-10-30 23:01:10] rapidtrades : has to be 100-200% imo
[2016-10-30 23:01:20] Rado : That's 20%
[2016-10-30 23:01:36] Rado : That will happen from sub 0.1
[2016-10-30 23:01:39] rapidtrades : 20% is nothing...it lost what 70% today?
[2016-10-30 23:02:24] rapidtrades : that wasn't the rally, they don't end in 5 mins
[2016-10-30 23:02:28] Rado : IMO only, I might be wrong
[2016-10-30 23:02:34] rapidtrades : dump was 3 days long
[2016-10-30 23:02:42] rapidtrades : at least 1 day of gainz
[2016-10-30 23:02:51] rapidtrades : just imo, as a long :)
[2016-10-30 23:05:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ7D`: Sell 1 @ 74388
[2016-10-30 23:05:45] wurstgelee : btc dumping and alts pumping will help to bounce zec easily. low supply as well
[2016-10-30 23:06:50] rapidtrades : +!
[2016-10-30 23:06:54] rapidtrades : +1
[2016-10-30 23:07:13] rapidtrades : 1.5 will be easy....2-3 bit harder but doable
[2016-10-30 23:07:32] Gr33d : such a bagholder.
[2016-10-30 23:07:38] wurstgelee : will possibly dump down to .5 or something tho
[2016-10-30 23:07:48] rapidtrades : no it's cool
[2016-10-30 23:08:03] rfcdejong : who is that whale with 150k USD sell wall
[2016-10-30 23:08:14] wurstgelee : sleger
[2016-10-30 23:08:24] wurstgelee : i generally suspect him
[2016-10-30 23:08:25] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 23:08:44] rapidtrades : i always think its sleger
[2016-10-30 23:08:47] rfcdejong : I'm new on bitmex, no idea what regular is... well not a whale with 100x leverage :)
[2016-10-30 23:09:12] Gr33d : rfcdejong: 0/
[2016-10-30 23:09:12] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: oh right, i remember you from polo trollbox
[2016-10-30 23:09:18] wurstgelee : not from here
[2016-10-30 23:09:22] wurstgelee : one of the pinks ;)
[2016-10-30 23:09:23] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: :)
[2016-10-30 23:09:27] Rado : ICYMI: China's Debt Has Grown $4.5 Trillion In Past 12 Months, More Than The US, Japan And Europe Combined
[2016-10-30 23:09:31] Gr33d : rfcdejong: Welcome to ButtMex
[2016-10-30 23:09:53] rfcdejong : Gr33d: lol
[2016-10-30 23:10:00] rfcdejong : Gr33d: is red in here a moderator ?
[2016-10-30 23:10:05] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: lol
[2016-10-30 23:10:08] wurstgelee : moderator
[2016-10-30 23:10:09] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-30 23:10:10] wurstgelee : haha
[2016-10-30 23:10:19] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: no moderators in the trollbox?
[2016-10-30 23:10:23] wurstgelee : no
[2016-10-30 23:10:26] wurstgelee : not really
[2016-10-30 23:10:26] mjmj83 : rfcdejong: everyone has a different color
[2016-10-30 23:10:31] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: oh
[2016-10-30 23:10:35] rapidtrades : mods are hiding this weekend
[2016-10-30 23:10:38] wurstgelee : admins ...sometimes...
[2016-10-30 23:10:38] mjmj83 : moderators and bitmex people will have logo next to their name
[2016-10-30 23:10:42] wurstgelee : havent seen them today tho
[2016-10-30 23:10:43] Gr33d : oh. My btc short liquidated. That's nice.
[2016-10-30 23:10:51] numero : Rado: yeah the china crisis is coming
[2016-10-30 23:10:53] rapidtrades : i guess this is better then buttfinex attacking their victims on reddot
[2016-10-30 23:11:08] rfcdejong : I only moved a very small amount of BTC in here, to play with it
[2016-10-30 23:11:22] mjmj83 : Does anyone know how to compare the current mining power in Zcash with Ethereum for example?
[2016-10-30 23:11:30] rfcdejong : ROE at +48.67% :)
[2016-10-30 23:11:34] rfcdejong : whatever that means
[2016-10-30 23:11:39] rapidtrades : yeah we did it this morning, see archive @mjmj83
[2016-10-30 23:11:47] mjmj83 : thanks rapid
[2016-10-30 23:12:17] rfcdejong : test
[2016-10-30 23:12:18] rapidtrades : also smone else said that ZEC took 33% of hashing power from ETH, not sure how acurate is that
[2016-10-30 23:12:26] rfcdejong : oh I can talk to myself
[2016-10-30 23:12:31] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-10-30 23:12:31] rfcdejong : yes you can
[2016-10-30 23:12:54] rfcdejong : :)
[2016-10-30 23:13:09] mjmj83 : rapidtrades: can't find anything in the archive.. it doesn't go back so far..
[2016-10-30 23:13:19] rapidtrades : the API does
[2016-10-30 23:13:28] mjmj83 : rapidtrades: thanks again
[2016-10-30 23:13:29] rfcdejong : I'm so going to short on ZEC in here :)
[2016-10-30 23:13:39] Gr33d : rfcdejong: Good choice.
[2016-10-30 23:13:44] rapidtrades : agree
[2016-10-30 23:13:44] mjmj83 : rfcdejong: watch out what you say here
[2016-10-30 23:13:57] rapidtrades : what price are u shorting at?
[2016-10-30 23:13:59] wurstgelee : BITMEX TIP: Hardly anything will get you banned from the Trollbox. Please have fun with all sorts of HYPE/FUD.Thank you
[2016-10-30 23:14:01] rapidtrades : just curious
[2016-10-30 23:14:11] rfcdejong : mjmj83: why would it be anything different in here than on polo lol
[2016-10-30 23:14:17] rapidtrades : and what would be ur liquidation price @rfcdejong
[2016-10-30 23:14:26] mjmj83 : rapidtrades: haha +1
[2016-10-30 23:14:29] rapidtrades : asking for a friend
[2016-10-30 23:14:36] Gr33d : rfcdejong: There's no ZEC on Bitmex, only a ZEC future
[2016-10-30 23:14:40] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: hahhaa
[2016-10-30 23:14:41] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-30 23:15:07] rfcdejong : rapidtrades: no idea, I have to figure out the future stuff.. but I think ZEC is worth way less than it is current on the future price
[2016-10-30 23:15:19] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: the u should short :p
[2016-10-30 23:15:25] rapidtrades : make sure to short more then @rfcdejong
[2016-10-30 23:15:33] rfcdejong : rapidtrades: haha
[2016-10-30 23:16:08] mjmj83 : next 24 hours another +/-500 ZECs will be mined...
[2016-10-30 23:16:19] wurstgelee : peanuts
[2016-10-30 23:16:43] rfcdejong : I can also manipulate polo a bit and on specific coins and see if people in here panic :)
[2016-10-30 23:16:53] mjmj83 : At a price of 1 btc that'll be $350.000/day
[2016-10-30 23:17:08] rapidtrades : that's nothing
[2016-10-30 23:17:09] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: u wont.
[2016-10-30 23:17:10] mjmj83 : that's 27% of bitcoin
[2016-10-30 23:17:19] rapidtrades : like i said, nothing
[2016-10-30 23:17:37] mjmj83 : i don't know what mining power actually is in ZEC, but I don't believe it's anyway near 27%
[2016-10-30 23:17:46] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: will have to be carefull yes
[2016-10-30 23:17:57] rapidtrades : it's actually higher then u think
[2016-10-30 23:18:16] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: I rather buy when there is blood and sell when people fomo
[2016-10-30 23:18:21] rapidtrades : hold the line u polofags
[2016-10-30 23:18:29] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: ofc. ;)
[2016-10-30 23:18:38] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: but the correlation with bitmex is still unknown to me
[2016-10-30 23:18:56] rapidtrades : there is no correlation atm
[2016-10-30 23:18:58] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: dump to .5 and bounce...in the next few hours probably something like that.
[2016-10-30 23:19:17] rapidtrades : double bottom at 0.70-0.75 then bounce
[2016-10-30 23:19:20] rfcdejong : rapidtrades: I saw ETH going up on polo and people buy ETH here as well
[2016-10-30 23:19:27] rfcdejong : rapidtrades, just missing some liquidity
[2016-10-30 23:19:28] wurstgelee : "probably". more a wild guessing
[2016-10-30 23:19:44] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: we have hidden orders here.
[2016-10-30 23:19:51] wurstgelee : visible orderbooks are misleading
[2016-10-30 23:19:53] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 23:20:02] wurstgelee : iceberg orders etc..
[2016-10-30 23:20:07] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: hehe
[2016-10-30 23:20:16] rapidtrades : so what do u guys plan to do when the 24h notice hits?
[2016-10-30 23:20:24] rapidtrades : buy zec to polo or what
[2016-10-30 23:20:26] rfcdejong : rapidtrades: what 24h ?
[2016-10-30 23:20:40] rfcdejong : rapidtrades: I cannot manipulate ZEC cause I have 0 ZEC lol
[2016-10-30 23:20:46] rapidtrades : good
[2016-10-30 23:20:48] wurstgelee : for example i am pretty sure that there are way more than 143k waiting to get filled @ the ask side :p
[2016-10-30 23:20:56] rfcdejong : rapidtrades, lost only 1 BTC on it being stupid lol
[2016-10-30 23:21:39] rapidtrades : zec volume at 850...slowly going up
[2016-10-30 23:21:39] rfcdejong : oh I just bought some BTC in here...
[2016-10-30 23:21:51] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: yeah, thanks
[2016-10-30 23:21:57] wurstgelee : :P
[2016-10-30 23:22:10] iefken : rapidtrades: zec volume where?
[2016-10-30 23:22:19] wurstgelee : iefken: polo
[2016-10-30 23:22:32] iefken : my polo says 1100 already
[2016-10-30 23:22:41] wurstgelee : iefken: 24h ?
[2016-10-30 23:22:44] rapidtrades : that's in BTC i think
[2016-10-30 23:22:47] wurstgelee : ZEC volume?
[2016-10-30 23:22:52] wurstgelee : not BTC volume.... :D
[2016-10-30 23:23:09] rapidtrades : we need 1000 ZEC before bitmex can give us another lie
[2016-10-30 23:23:10] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: yes 24h BTC volume
[2016-10-30 23:23:12] wurstgelee : 24hr Volume: 1140.55829980 BTC / 852.45825842 ZEC
[2016-10-30 23:23:28] wurstgelee : vol of ZEC is criteria for switching marking to polo
[2016-10-30 23:23:33] rapidtrades : if we rally in next few hours we should hit it easily
[2016-10-30 23:23:36] iefken : sorry my bad
[2016-10-30 23:23:43] rapidtrades : volume will spike
[2016-10-30 23:24:24] rfcdejong : wow I love trading in here already
[2016-10-30 23:24:25] rapidtrades : if it keeps going down ppl will slowly lose interest in the one true coin
[2016-10-30 23:24:49] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: its for grown ups ;)
[2016-10-30 23:25:02] Rado : rfcdejong: did you lace a trade?
[2016-10-30 23:25:13] Rado : place
[2016-10-30 23:25:28] rfcdejong : Rado: catched a dump on XBTUSD around 691
[2016-10-30 23:25:50] rfcdejong : Rado: still learning bitmex interface tho ;)
[2016-10-30 23:26:02] Gr33d : BTC bear trap
[2016-10-30 23:26:02] Rado : good luck
[2016-10-30 23:26:08] rfcdejong : ROE at 78.14% ?
[2016-10-30 23:26:11] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: biggest difference to polo: its fucking fast
[2016-10-30 23:26:12] rfcdejong : what does ROE mean
[2016-10-30 23:26:20] wurstgelee : return on investment
[2016-10-30 23:26:24] wurstgelee : ha
[2016-10-30 23:26:26] Gr33d : lel
[2016-10-30 23:26:26] rapidtrades : nothing, its misleading useless stat
[2016-10-30 23:26:28] rfcdejong : oh lol I should had known
[2016-10-30 23:26:32] wurstgelee : *equity
[2016-10-30 23:26:46] rfcdejong : it seems it is compared to the Mark Price
[2016-10-30 23:26:51] wurstgelee : it is
[2016-10-30 23:26:55] wurstgelee : exactly
[2016-10-30 23:26:58] Gr33d : yup
[2016-10-30 23:27:13] rfcdejong : will Entry Price go lower after selling above ?
[2016-10-30 23:27:22] rfcdejong : just like margin on poloniex -> Base Price
[2016-10-30 23:27:26] sleger : no
[2016-10-30 23:27:32] rapidtrades : for example mine says -178% on zec....what does it mean?
[2016-10-30 23:27:44] rapidtrades : how can i lose more then 100% lol
[2016-10-30 23:27:46] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: lol :D
[2016-10-30 23:27:50] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: eaily
[2016-10-30 23:27:50] rfcdejong : rapidtrades: zec as a future contract lol
[2016-10-30 23:27:53] wurstgelee : easily
[2016-10-30 23:27:57] Gr33d : Means you need to stop longing ZEC m8
[2016-10-30 23:28:01] rapidtrades : see it's a useless stat
[2016-10-30 23:28:15] kradiav : rapidtrades: you long ZEC and get rekt with fomo bonus
[2016-10-30 23:28:20] Rado : rapidtrades: you can lose more than 100% of teh invested in the trade
[2016-10-30 23:28:29] rapidtrades : 100 of margin
[2016-10-30 23:28:33] Rado : since it gets margin from your other available BTC
[2016-10-30 23:28:34] rapidtrades : not 100 of invested
[2016-10-30 23:28:36] rfcdejong : ZEC will go down to 0.1 BTC or even lower
[2016-10-30 23:28:41] Chronuslll : Whats your guys average position size ?
[2016-10-30 23:28:42] rapidtrades : that's why it's a useless stat
[2016-10-30 23:28:55] sleger : Chronuslll: i dont have any guys
[2016-10-30 23:29:05] wurstgelee : sleger: haha
[2016-10-30 23:29:07] wurstgelee : n1
[2016-10-30 23:29:07] Rado : Chronuslll: on which instrument?
[2016-10-30 23:29:19] Gr33d : 43% ROE whoo
[2016-10-30 23:29:27] Chronuslll : Lol good one
[2016-10-30 23:29:39] Gr33d : shame it's only 0.0013 BTC
[2016-10-30 23:29:53] mjmj83 : rfcdejong: why do you think that?
[2016-10-30 23:29:57] Chronuslll : Xbtcusd
[2016-10-30 23:30:16] rfcdejong : mjmj83: exponential miner reward increase
[2016-10-30 23:30:17] Chronuslll : Rado: xbtcusd
[2016-10-30 23:30:18] rapidtrades : zec testing lows and bouncing hard
[2016-10-30 23:30:22] Rado : 10k-30k
[2016-10-30 23:30:26] rapidtrades : boom bitches, blink and u missed it
[2016-10-30 23:30:32] rapidtrades : 0.75>0.82
[2016-10-30 23:30:33] rfcdejong : mjmj83: and ZCoin was a scam as well, same people
[2016-10-30 23:30:44] Chronuslll : New to bitmex
[2016-10-30 23:31:40] imabeast : at this rate zec will be .5 in 12 hours
[2016-10-30 23:31:56] Rado : imabeast: agreed
[2016-10-30 23:32:01] wurstgelee : imabeast: yes, thats my guess too
[2016-10-30 23:32:26] wurstgelee : .5 will hold tho
[2016-10-30 23:32:37] wurstgelee : if it goes that low...
[2016-10-30 23:32:45] rfcdejong : omg my "margin balance" is double of my deposit balance... I'm going to deposit more in here lol
[2016-10-30 23:32:54] Rado : wurstgelee: not it will not
[2016-10-30 23:32:58] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: bitmex is crack ;)
[2016-10-30 23:33:01] Rado : it's going to 0.1
[2016-10-30 23:33:07] imabeast : i honestly dont think it will bounce until its below .1 haha
[2016-10-30 23:33:10] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: yes I'm going to be addicted
[2016-10-30 23:33:10] wurstgelee : actually worse than crack
[2016-10-30 23:33:25] miramm1115 : deposit more, BitMEX is the best exchange
[2016-10-30 23:33:38] rfcdejong : I would eat that 150k USD wall
[2016-10-30 23:33:44] rfcdejong : oh where did it go
[2016-10-30 23:33:44] sleger : too late
[2016-10-30 23:33:48] wurstgelee : its gone
[2016-10-30 23:33:49] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 23:34:00] rapidtrades : sleger
[2016-10-30 23:34:09] vnzord : sure its the best garbage
[2016-10-30 23:34:09] rapidtrades : it's always sleger
[2016-10-30 23:34:22] rfcdejong : sleger are you on poloniex as well ?
[2016-10-30 23:34:32] sleger : nah i only trade the japanese contracts @rapidtrades
[2016-10-30 23:34:39] sleger : rfcdejong: yes but never on the chat
[2016-10-30 23:35:11] wurstgelee : polo chat gives me instant headache
[2016-10-30 23:35:13] rfcdejong : sleger: oke, guppy / fish / dolphin / whale / bill gates ?
[2016-10-30 23:35:18] rapidtrades : sleger: why? those are not liquid
[2016-10-30 23:35:31] rfcdejong : any other 3 digit club people in here? :D
[2016-10-30 23:35:38] sleger : rfcdejong: whats the limit for each ?
[2016-10-30 23:35:52] sleger : 3 digit is what ? 100btc?
[2016-10-30 23:35:59] rfcdejong : sleger: hard to tell, I would consider a 1000 BTC guy a whale
[2016-10-30 23:36:05] sleger : i have more
[2016-10-30 23:36:16] rapidtrades : asshole
[2016-10-30 23:36:21] Rado : lol
[2016-10-30 23:36:22] rfcdejong : sleger: 3 digit lol, 3 digit billion USD
[2016-10-30 23:36:23] wurstgelee : haha :D
[2016-10-30 23:36:34] rapidtrades : sleger: in actual BTC or USD
[2016-10-30 23:36:38] sleger : rfcdejong: that's 3 commas
[2016-10-30 23:36:44] sleger : the three commas club
[2016-10-30 23:36:49] kradiav : tres commas?
[2016-10-30 23:36:53] sleger : rapidtrades: in btc
[2016-10-30 23:36:57] wurstgelee : i dont have 3 digits here..i wouldnt trust an exchnage with 3 digits
[2016-10-30 23:36:58] rfcdejong : sleger: yes 3 comma's I ment :)
[2016-10-30 23:36:59] wurstgelee : *exchange
[2016-10-30 23:37:14] sleger : no i do not own a billion usd
[2016-10-30 23:37:18] rapidtrades : what....how did u even get 1000 btc
[2016-10-30 23:37:36] Rado : 1000 BTC is only 700k USD
[2016-10-30 23:37:37] sleger : via mtgox then stamp then finex
[2016-10-30 23:37:43] wurstgelee : i would think seleger made 50-100 on zec
[2016-10-30 23:37:51] sleger : wurstgelee: i lost on zec
[2016-10-30 23:37:57] wurstgelee : oh really?
[2016-10-30 23:37:59] Gr33d : lol wut
[2016-10-30 23:38:03] Gr33d : losing on zec?
[2016-10-30 23:38:04] wurstgelee : wouldnt have thought that
[2016-10-30 23:38:08] Gr33d : ...K.
[2016-10-30 23:38:09] rapidtrades : he shorted it at the start
[2016-10-30 23:38:12] imabeast : dump again zec
[2016-10-30 23:38:13] wurstgelee : oh right
[2016-10-30 23:38:14] sleger : yep, i screwed up there
[2016-10-30 23:38:25] rapidtrades : u shorted the one true coin
[2016-10-30 23:38:30] rfcdejong : sleger: you are not alone lol
[2016-10-30 23:38:40] rfcdejong : sleger, I even bought for the fun at 800 BTC
[2016-10-30 23:38:49] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: did u buy at polo? zec?
[2016-10-30 23:38:53] rfcdejong : sleger: very small amount gladly
[2016-10-30 23:38:56] wurstgelee : 800?
[2016-10-30 23:38:57] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-10-30 23:38:57] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: yes
[2016-10-30 23:38:59] sleger : then i was short at 10 and the stupid admins said they would remove the cap so i exited at 8 ....
[2016-10-30 23:39:05] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: only for 0.1 BTC or so
[2016-10-30 23:39:15] wurstgelee : ah ok
[2016-10-30 23:39:17] rapidtrades : sleger: i feel ya
[2016-10-30 23:39:19] wurstgelee : for the lulz
[2016-10-30 23:39:32] rapidtrades : bitmex f*cked so many ppl on that day
[2016-10-30 23:39:34] Rado : sleger: :( 10 short was nice
[2016-10-30 23:39:38] wurstgelee : sleger: i was long when they said they wouldnt. same shit ;)
[2016-10-30 23:39:39] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: saw it at 3000 and then 1000, bouncing alot so I decided to catch a bit and sell for double
[2016-10-30 23:39:40] Rado : I couldn't pull the trigger
[2016-10-30 23:39:41] wurstgelee : only small tho
[2016-10-30 23:40:16] rapidtrades : u know what would teach bitmex a lessson? spiking prices to 10 and margining their MM buddies
[2016-10-30 23:40:31] sleger : i dont think the mm ever played zec
[2016-10-30 23:40:36] RocketScience : I filled a 50$ order
[2016-10-30 23:40:48] wurstgelee : i dont think either
[2016-10-30 23:40:49] rfcdejong : crap I just closed my position and now BTC goes up more
[2016-10-30 23:40:52] RocketScience : I am a good market maker
[2016-10-30 23:40:58] wurstgelee : mms wont be here before marking
[2016-10-30 23:41:02] wurstgelee : @ zec
[2016-10-30 23:41:04] rapidtrades : sleger: well smone close to bitmex did, that's why they covered his back with the cap
[2016-10-30 23:41:07] rfcdejong : I need to get on the leaderboards in here :)
[2016-10-30 23:41:24] rfcdejong : /me deposit some more
[2016-10-30 23:41:25] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: where are the leaderboards again? link?
[2016-10-30 23:41:41] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: https://www.bitmex.com/app/leaderboard
[2016-10-30 23:41:58] wurstgelee : wow
[2016-10-30 23:42:04] wurstgelee : i am on it
[2016-10-30 23:42:05] Rado : rfcdejong: be careful not to get on the liquidation leader board
[2016-10-30 23:42:05] wurstgelee : easily
[2016-10-30 23:42:06] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-10-30 23:42:12] sleger : rapidtrades: what i think is that when they realised they screwed up they had to make a choice. Then they realised longs already made money and shorts lost so it was easier for them to leave the cap, because people are more pissed when they lose money than when they lose potential profits
[2016-10-30 23:42:13] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: ROE will be posible, but the other not yet
[2016-10-30 23:42:27] wurstgelee : not on the roe
[2016-10-30 23:42:30] wurstgelee : the other ;)
[2016-10-30 23:42:32] rfcdejong : Rado: :)
[2016-10-30 23:42:47] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: whale as well? :)
[2016-10-30 23:42:57] rapidtrades : sleger: don't do what's right, do what pisses off less people
[2016-10-30 23:42:57] wurstgelee : no
[2016-10-30 23:43:00] wurstgelee : no 1k
[2016-10-30 23:43:07] wurstgelee : if thats whale criteria
[2016-10-30 23:43:08] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 23:43:10] rapidtrades : that's a great long-term business strategy
[2016-10-30 23:43:14] sleger : rapidtrades: of course, or in their case, do what keeps customers here
[2016-10-30 23:43:31] wurstgelee : junior whale. 3 digits
[2016-10-30 23:43:32] rapidtrades : idk that move lost my trust in them completely
[2016-10-30 23:43:36] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-10-30 23:43:43] rapidtrades : im only here to make money off the idiots now
[2016-10-30 23:44:05] kradiav : rapidtrades: you can't trade with yourself dude.... boom! :D
[2016-10-30 23:44:07] rapidtrades : will switch what i can to polo and okc
[2016-10-30 23:44:08] sleger : that's what i call my "10%"
[2016-10-30 23:44:09] rfcdejong : I'm going to transfer a tiny more into here lol...
[2016-10-30 23:44:52] rapidtrades : sleger: yeah
[2016-10-30 23:45:11] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: u cant make or lose money that fast on polo. viva bitmex! ;)
[2016-10-30 23:45:30] Gr33d : kradiav: +1
[2016-10-30 23:45:33] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: I believe
[2016-10-30 23:45:49] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: try 33x on eth
[2016-10-30 23:45:50] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-10-30 23:46:22] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: yes short in here at 33% and then dump all my ETH on polo :D
[2016-10-30 23:46:49] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: I regret not selling them at 0.022 lol
[2016-10-30 23:46:58] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: that would actually work if u have enough eth to push the price
[2016-10-30 23:47:08] wurstgelee : or dump
[2016-10-30 23:47:14] wurstgelee : not push
[2016-10-30 23:47:15] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 23:47:33] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: problem is that I'm not alone on polo, if I dump a bigger whale will buy up way higher than I dumped it
[2016-10-30 23:47:47] wurstgelee : exactly
[2016-10-30 23:47:55] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-10-30 23:47:58] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: I need to eat more fish
[2016-10-30 23:48:21] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: slowly... but this BTC rise didn't do me any good :/
[2016-10-30 23:48:50] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: and putting more FIAT into BTC is also risky now, not a bit but alot FIAT that is
[2016-10-30 23:49:31] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: u cant make money on polo when btc i pumping with non-margin-tradeable coins on polo.
[2016-10-30 23:49:33] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: I don't want to explain my wife again and then her from here "you need to cash out" :)
[2016-10-30 23:49:44] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: hehe
[2016-10-30 23:49:53] kradiav : ZEC so strong right now... tide turning for long term
[2016-10-30 23:50:05] kryptopojken : kradiav: lol
[2016-10-30 23:50:09] mjmj83 : rfcdejong: you're dutch, right?
[2016-10-30 23:50:10] wurstgelee : kradiav: polo user?
[2016-10-30 23:50:12] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-30 23:50:17] rfcdejong : mjmj83: yup
[2016-10-30 23:50:29] rfcdejong : kradiav: I see your name in the leaderboard :)
[2016-10-30 23:50:41] mjmj83 : more and more dutch people around here..
[2016-10-30 23:50:43] rfcdejong : kradiav: 552.57 ROE :)
[2016-10-30 23:51:16] kradiav : yeap, polo mainly... just joined on zcash
[2016-10-30 23:51:20] kradiav : good money here
[2016-10-30 23:52:17] wurstgelee : kradiav: your style of chatting made it obvious :p
[2016-10-30 23:52:26] kradiav : :D
[2016-10-30 23:52:58] kradiav : I haven't read their trollbox for a long time... too tiring
[2016-10-30 23:53:08] wurstgelee : i have it closed
[2016-10-30 23:53:18] rapidtrades : polo tamed his spirit...
[2016-10-30 23:53:21] rfcdejong : poloniex is missing a leaderboard
[2016-10-30 23:53:23] wurstgelee : site is slow enough without
[2016-10-30 23:53:23] rapidtrades : polo breaks all men
[2016-10-30 23:53:33] kradiav : wurstgelee: ye
[2016-10-30 23:53:39] wurstgelee : horribly slow interface...
[2016-10-30 23:54:08] rfcdejong : oh API in here
[2016-10-30 23:54:12] imabeast : i hate the slider for the graphs
[2016-10-30 23:54:12] imabeast : lol
[2016-10-30 23:54:13] rfcdejong : I need to code on my bot again :)
[2016-10-30 23:54:40] rfcdejong : but I won't let my bot do 100x margin lol
[2016-10-30 23:54:57] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 23:54:57] rapidtrades : set it free on zec
[2016-10-30 23:56:02] rfcdejong : only 2% leverage on ZEC shorting isn't any fun
[2016-10-30 23:56:08] rfcdejong : 2x
[2016-10-30 23:56:36] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: u would say that if u had been here during the run up to 10 btc per future
[2016-10-30 23:56:41] wurstgelee : *wouldnt
[2016-10-30 23:57:01] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: lol yes I missed that
[2016-10-30 23:57:25] imabeast : btc -> 680 soon
[2016-10-30 23:57:57] wurstgelee : imabeast: !
[2016-10-30 23:59:14] wurstgelee : my body is ready
[2016-10-30 23:59:21] wurstgelee : so are my shorts ;)
[2016-10-30 23:59:40] imabeast : yes im ready as well
[2016-10-30 23:59:41] imabeast : haha
[2016-10-30 23:59:51] laisee : my accountant is ready
[2016-10-31 00:00:45] imabeast : btc needs a pull back before it goes back up