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[2016-10-30 02:07:10] mjones : look at that btc bounce
[2016-10-30 02:07:18] mjones : excellent long. i only regret not longing more
[2016-10-30 02:07:19] Tetsuo : signed up 2012,lots of fun in the trollbox at that time
[2016-10-30 02:07:34] mjones : i was in btce trollbox when LTC was 7 cents
[2016-10-30 02:07:43] numero : veteran troll
[2016-10-30 02:07:57] numero : *trolls
[2016-10-30 02:08:27] mjones : spent the good half of my 20's trolling btc chatboxes. probably do this till the day i die
[2016-10-30 02:08:49] numero : internet will be gone by then I fear
[2016-10-30 02:08:51] Tetsuo : mjones: life could be worse, probably...
[2016-10-30 02:09:12] mjones : yeah norht korea will nuke a bunch of shit and no internet
[2016-10-30 02:09:23] mjones : then i'll be poor and homeless.
[2016-10-30 02:09:24] numero : or the oil will run out
[2016-10-30 02:09:30] mjones : hopefully the nuke hits me then
[2016-10-30 02:09:31] numero : oil age over
[2016-10-30 02:10:07] laisee : can join local trollbox group instead
[2016-10-30 02:10:23] laisee : a.k.a.
[2016-10-30 02:10:35] numero : lol, troll the nursing home
[2016-10-30 02:11:02] Tetsuo : kill the ambulance
[2016-10-30 02:11:07] donkey : i go to TA meetings..
[2016-10-30 02:11:07] laisee : troll the mall
[2016-10-30 02:11:14] RocketScience : I deleveraged in time and dodged my demise
[2016-10-30 02:11:22] RocketScience : Yeeeeaaahh
[2016-10-30 02:11:34] RocketScience : Good night
[2016-10-30 02:18:07] mjones : man. i got all these btc i want to long still. i'd hate to wake up and wish i longed more before bed.
[2016-10-30 02:18:45] RocketScience : This was divine intervention
[2016-10-30 02:19:07] RocketScience : If i would go to sleep id wake up with nothing
[2016-10-30 02:19:55] 1471696 : 怎么都是英文
[2016-10-30 02:20:04] 1471696 : 有没有会说中文的
[2016-10-30 02:20:19] sleger : 1471696: cute drawings
[2016-10-30 02:20:31] RocketScience : lol
[2016-10-30 02:21:41] mjones : rip alts the bounce is over
[2016-10-30 02:22:10] martinium : yup
[2016-10-30 02:22:17] martinium : hope you guys long that glorious dip
[2016-10-30 02:22:32] laisee : wait for next shitecoin to ICO?
[2016-10-30 02:23:14] 1471696 : 没有文化聊不来
[2016-10-30 02:23:16] mjones : where can i bet on trump being president. that's an easy win
[2016-10-30 02:23:42] laisee : buy USD
[2016-10-30 02:25:18] French_Canadian : buy btc usd, to the moon
[2016-10-30 02:25:52] sleger : 1471696: ok we got it you're an artist
[2016-10-30 02:26:02] sleger : mjones: fairlay
[2016-10-30 02:26:11] sleger : i placed my bets there
[2016-10-30 02:27:31] BitMEX_Jinming : 1471696: 你好
[2016-10-30 02:29:54] AudibleScience : hey how come I have a liquidation price when my notional is less than my acc bal?
[2016-10-30 02:30:36] sleger : compute what would be your equity if your position reached that price
[2016-10-30 02:35:37] numero : mjones: long gold?
[2016-10-30 02:35:42] AudibleScience : sleger: yeah man, the loss on a position this small would be just under 3btc ?? So my question remains...
[2016-10-30 02:36:04] sleger : and we cant answer because you didnt give any detail
[2016-10-30 02:39:59] AudibleScience : okay, well we were talking about a really baby position of 3.5k contracts on xbtusd only... and I'm on cross...
[2016-10-30 02:40:25] Toeotihuacan : hey. How do I set a stop loss for my position?
[2016-10-30 02:40:38] AudibleScience : now it's down to 2500 contracts and I still have a liq price hehe!
[2016-10-30 02:41:02] sleger : AudibleScience: long or short, whats the liq price?
[2016-10-30 02:41:19] Toeotihuacan : short. Liq @ 1384.58 - I'm just testing the waters to learn.
[2016-10-30 02:41:42] AudibleScience : sleger: 270.11
[2016-10-30 02:41:47] Toeotihuacan : I'm plankton.
[2016-10-30 02:41:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 315 @ 74494
[2016-10-30 02:42:23] mjones : i didnt long gold. too manipulated
[2016-10-30 02:42:26] Toeotihuacan : nm I can research. Quiet trollbox here. I like it.
[2016-10-30 02:42:32] sleger : so you're short 2000c, whats your available balance?
[2016-10-30 02:43:10] AudibleScience : 5.714 atm
[2016-10-30 02:43:34] sleger : hmm weird
[2016-10-30 02:43:34] AudibleScience : sleger: oh and no man, I'm long...
[2016-10-30 02:43:43] sleger : ah then thats normal
[2016-10-30 02:44:01] numero : mjones: yeah, there'll come a time for it
[2016-10-30 02:44:02] sleger : if you long bitcoin using bitcoin you are leveraged so you have a liq price
[2016-10-30 02:45:03] AudibleScience : weird man! I can remember a time when we would just get a "--" in the liq price if your notional was below your equity...
[2016-10-30 02:45:24] sleger : not for long XBT
[2016-10-30 02:45:51] sleger : i have this "-.--" for my ethxbt position for instance
[2016-10-30 02:46:09] AudibleScience : no? not even on the 24h futures back then?
[2016-10-30 02:46:14] sleger : all my long xbt... positions do have a liq price, and that is normal
[2016-10-30 02:46:29] sleger : if it was then it was a bug
[2016-10-30 02:47:52] AudibleScience : oh okay... my days of getting anywhere near my liq price are long gone now anyway... lol
[2016-10-30 02:50:20] lockhedge : AudibleScience: there are only inverse futures left. if you are long XBTUSD, you are actually short USDXBT
[2016-10-30 02:50:22] aethlios : what happened zcash??? why you dumped so hard?? why not 2.5 like decent spot price???
[2016-10-30 02:51:04] iefken : some think its a scam
[2016-10-30 02:52:06] aethlios : iefken: it is a company, a gov. could intervene, it is not like btc.
[2016-10-30 02:52:19] billz : aethlios: because bitmex is leaving the marking to it's "own discretion" because this place is wack
[2016-10-30 02:52:45] micmix : aethlios: no one brave enough to long, it's called "market sentiment"
[2016-10-30 02:52:53] aethlios : billz: future contract here tries to find the expected 30 dec. price
[2016-10-30 02:53:43] laisee : which will be 10, or 2
[2016-10-30 02:54:09] arbitrage001 : 0.3 is a good bet for dec future
[2016-10-30 02:54:27] aethlios : 0.05 at most 30 dec.
[2016-10-30 02:54:39] arbitrage001 : aethlios: then you should short it
[2016-10-30 02:54:40] chromaticcr1 : aethlios: short it to hell then
[2016-10-30 02:54:41] laisee : 19 if trump wins, 2 if hillary doesn't lose
[2016-10-30 02:54:48] laisee : ^19^10
[2016-10-30 02:54:58] aethlios : -10 10.00 ZEC 2.313109 0.300013 10.394286 + 106.9998 XBT (0.22x) 20.1310 XBT (87.03%) 12.2849 XBT
[2016-10-30 02:55:15] aethlios : i am 10 short average 2.31
[2016-10-30 02:55:31] laisee : ADL awaits
[2016-10-30 02:55:44] arbitrage001 : thought you are going to say you shourt from 18btc/zcash
[2016-10-30 02:55:54] micmix : marking to last is completely normal for futures, price is determined by market sentiment. not sure why people are complaining
[2016-10-30 02:56:13] aethlios : shorted when bitmex said cap stays until volume 1000 zec etc.
[2016-10-30 02:56:44] chromaticcr1 : ZECZ16 -10 10.00 ZEC 1.740703 0.300013 #### ### XBT (Cross) 14.4069 XBT (###%) 0.8438 XBT ;) @aethlios
[2016-10-30 02:56:54] chromaticcr1 : aethlios: u r better than me ;)
[2016-10-30 02:56:57] arbitrage001 : polo already exceed 2400 volumje
[2016-10-30 02:58:08] laisee : price will be middle of 2.2 and 0.3 if they 'indexed' today
[2016-10-30 02:58:49] AudibleScience : lockhedge: ah, cool. I'll have to do some more calculations after some sleep...
[2016-10-30 03:00:31] chromaticcr1 : laisee: or perhaps supply adjusted and be 2.2* 534now/350k@Dec = 0.0033, would be also quite fun to see
[2016-10-30 03:01:40] aethlios : chromaticcr1: nice trade, most easy money, that's why trading is not gambling, you can have a profit with 95% prob.
[2016-10-30 03:02:11] chromaticcr1 : aethlios: you never know when the market goes idiot and just fomo the F to 10 thou
[2016-10-30 03:02:30] chromaticcr1 : aethlios: people just dont grab the concept of *futures*
[2016-10-30 03:02:45] aethlios : chromaticcr1: i placed huge margin 90 btc to have liq. price 10.3 to be sure
[2016-10-30 03:02:48] chromaticcr1 : well but there's where the opportunity comes
[2016-10-30 03:03:15] aethlios : spot below 1 in 2 days
[2016-10-30 03:03:31] arbitrage001 : chromaticcr1: only take 1 price spike and price cap removed to wipe out short
[2016-10-30 03:03:52] aethlios : should we short eth??, chart is shit, and btc bullish
[2016-10-30 03:04:14] iefken : im shorting etc
[2016-10-30 03:04:14] mjones : eth did bounce hard and i doubt there are that many eager buyers
[2016-10-30 03:04:50] arbitrage001 : eth will go bust if it drop below 8 usd
[2016-10-30 03:05:23] arbitrage001 : bubble bust and same cycle repeat for another coin
[2016-10-30 03:05:42] chromaticcr1 : aethlios: yeah, the supply doubles in 0.829 days
[2016-10-30 03:07:53] DOGG : oh ,no
[2016-10-30 03:08:09] micmix : IMHO guys with ZEC shorts should start closing soon, extra 0.2 BTC profit per contract is not worth the risk
[2016-10-30 03:08:09] laisee : chrom; avg(2.2, 03) if done today, after that its doooown .....
[2016-10-30 03:08:38] chromaticcr1 : Yes this is @DOGG
[2016-10-30 03:08:58] DOGG : i win 1000XBT
[2016-10-30 03:09:32] chromaticcr1 : I dont see it https://www.bitmex.com/app/leaderboard here
[2016-10-30 03:12:29] aethlios : micmix: we need more bull blood, time is working for our interests
[2016-10-30 03:13:13] lockhedge : eth hashrate dropped more because of ZEC than ETC https://etherscan.io/charts/hashrate
[2016-10-30 03:14:06] l3f : haha wtf happened to zec
[2016-10-30 03:14:17] mjones : i think xmr may dump
[2016-10-30 03:14:59] micmix : aethlios: idk, your entry is 2.313109. At most you'll get 10% more profit on your short, not worth the risk imho
[2016-10-30 03:15:51] aethlios : micmix: no risk, I can have 2,5 btc more in 10 days, it is a month living expenses
[2016-10-30 03:17:13] micmix : well, I guess everyone has different risk/reward tolerance, it was just my opinion
[2016-10-30 03:17:15] chromaticcr1 : aethlios: that's quite extravagant lifestyle... at least in where i live that's a lot
[2016-10-30 03:20:12] aethlios : micmix: you are right, but it is still very expensive 0.3 is 140 usd, we used to 1 btc prices, but it can go down much more.
[2016-10-30 03:21:07] aethlios : still stupid poli buys to 2.2, 1500 usd per coin
[2016-10-30 03:21:48] DOGG : how many BTC d u have?
[2016-10-30 03:22:04] micmix : it should go down but it can be pumped up just as easily. anyway, I said all I wanted to say ;-)
[2016-10-30 03:23:58] aethlios : i have a portion of my capital in btc as a hedge to usd, but my rest trading capital is hedged
[2016-10-30 03:24:58] mendax090 : noob question: how do I do margin trading?.. I already have BTC on my acct, but it doesn't show the margin balance?
[2016-10-30 03:25:42] arbitrage001 : mendax090: every trade you make here is margin trade
[2016-10-30 03:25:45] mjones : what site are you using?
[2016-10-30 03:25:54] mendax090 : bitmex?
[2016-10-30 03:26:01] imabeast : zcash dumpppp
[2016-10-30 03:26:03] mjones : zec dump
[2016-10-30 03:26:10] Tetsuo : mendax090: try bitfinex
[2016-10-30 03:26:13] chromaticcr1 : choo choo!
[2016-10-30 03:27:26] mendax090 : Long ETH, Short ZEC? o.o
[2016-10-30 03:29:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 12001 @ 702.31
[2016-10-30 03:33:59] DOGG : zcash is stupid!
[2016-10-30 03:36:07] DOGG : REKT: 100X?
[2016-10-30 03:36:10] mjones : back to 0.29 prepump price.
[2016-10-30 03:36:23] mjones : 0.29 to 10 is a 6696% ROE
[2016-10-30 03:45:52] aethlios : ραψε το τηε βοττομ φορ ζψαση
[2016-10-30 03:46:02] aethlios : race to the bottom for zcash
[2016-10-30 03:46:49] chromaticcr1 : idioticness overflow
[2016-10-30 03:49:04] imabeast : zec head to sub 1btc
[2016-10-30 03:49:07] imabeast : headed*
[2016-10-30 03:57:34] wurstgelee : re from 24h break
[2016-10-30 03:57:44] wurstgelee : partly
[2016-10-30 03:57:54] wurstgelee : most of me is drunk af tho
[2016-10-30 03:58:18] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: zcash here a good bet at 0.3?
[2016-10-30 03:58:30] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: lol. no idea
[2016-10-30 03:58:44] arbitrage001 : what is your position? 0
[2016-10-30 03:58:46] arbitrage001 : ?
[2016-10-30 03:58:57] arbitrage001 : profited and never look back?
[2016-10-30 03:59:06] wurstgelee : left charts when zcash was >0 btc. literally returned 30 secs ago
[2016-10-30 03:59:13] wurstgelee : no position
[2016-10-30 03:59:29] wurstgelee : i went flat on friday after pump to 10 here
[2016-10-30 03:59:41] wurstgelee : after i got ADL'ed q 9.something
[2016-10-30 03:59:45] wurstgelee : @
[2016-10-30 04:00:42] wurstgelee : screw that
[2016-10-30 04:01:15] arbitrage001 : what is the total supply end of dec?
[2016-10-30 04:01:18] wurstgelee : i am maybe longing if order gets filled
[2016-10-30 04:01:21] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 04:01:26] wurstgelee : 300k iirc?
[2016-10-30 04:01:42] arbitrage001 : looks like a good bet @0.3 then
[2016-10-30 04:01:49] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-10-30 04:02:15] wurstgelee : hence longing ;)
[2016-10-30 04:02:47] arbitrage001 : if only 300k supply
[2016-10-30 04:02:55] arbitrage001 : could hit 100 btc
[2016-10-30 04:02:57] arbitrage001 : lol
[2016-10-30 04:03:06] arbitrage001 : per zcash
[2016-10-30 04:03:33] wurstgelee : prob not 100
[2016-10-30 04:03:39] aethlios : in a week 0.10 zec here
[2016-10-30 04:03:47] wurstgelee : but 10 would put it @ 3m btc market cap
[2016-10-30 04:04:00] arbitrage001 : aethlios: i think you will get wiped out in a month or two
[2016-10-30 04:04:11] arbitrage001 : surprise you are still here
[2016-10-30 04:04:25] aethlios : that's why i cant sleep the night
[2016-10-30 04:04:35] thomaskikansha : 10 is possible though
[2016-10-30 04:04:37] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: he would have been wiped out on launch day. trollbox saved him ;)
[2016-10-30 04:04:48] wurstgelee : ay for trollbox
[2016-10-30 04:04:51] wurstgelee : *yay
[2016-10-30 04:17:20] aethlios : polo bid book xmr the same with eth
[2016-10-30 04:22:05] chromaticcr1 : thomaskikansha: for ** *just* ** 240BTC, you can pump spot to 10BTC for a few secs
[2016-10-30 04:23:39] arbitrage001 : chromaticcr1: sleger alone can pump it to 10 btc then
[2016-10-30 04:24:11] arbitrage001 : and he isnt even the biggest whale out there
[2016-10-30 04:24:44] aethlios : 1.87 zec spot
[2016-10-30 04:25:17] chromaticcr1 : aethlios: doesnt take a day perhaps
[2016-10-30 04:25:32] arbitrage001 : momentary spot change doesn't mean much
[2016-10-30 04:25:39] arbitrage001 : in a grand scheme of things
[2016-10-30 04:25:55] aethlios : already some polo chat members complaining why price crashing
[2016-10-30 04:26:05] billz : arbitrage001: it could liquidate some shorters and force ADL
[2016-10-30 04:26:12] imabeast : lol zec is still overpriced by a shit ton
[2016-10-30 04:26:29] chromaticcr1 : imabeast: short it
[2016-10-30 04:26:39] imabeast : i already did lol
[2016-10-30 04:26:47] chromaticcr1 : **MOAR**
[2016-10-30 04:26:48] arbitrage001 : weak hand will always get shake out first
[2016-10-30 04:26:54] arbitrage001 : long or short
[2016-10-30 04:28:47] aethlios : zecz16 should be 0.05 now, based on btc expected bull run also
[2016-10-30 04:29:10] chromaticcr1 : aethlios: SHORT IT
[2016-10-30 04:29:17] chromaticcr1 : **MOAR**
[2016-10-30 04:29:28] chromaticcr1 : TO DA CORE
[2016-10-30 04:30:24] aethlios : i like eth short now, target 0.0065???
[2016-10-30 04:30:36] laisee : polo : 1.76 & dropping.
[2016-10-30 04:31:00] imabeast : zec will be less than 1 btc in 10 hrs
[2016-10-30 04:31:09] aethlios : after the cap announc. price here was 2 to 3 btc, most easy short in history
[2016-10-30 04:31:38] laisee : 1 way ticket to the -moon
[2016-10-30 04:31:54] aethlios : i buy 10*0.05, see you there.
[2016-10-30 04:32:04] chromaticcr1 : to UrAnus
[2016-10-30 04:32:14] noah sark : if you get deleveraged but you have a positive unrealised PNL on the position, does it close the position at the market price and you get the profit?
[2016-10-30 04:33:01] laisee : noah sark: yup
[2016-10-30 04:33:12] noah sark : thanks
[2016-10-30 04:33:12] chromaticcr1 : close at the best price that people got adl'd could offer, and you would be getting maker rebate
[2016-10-30 04:33:19] imabeast : with miners finally able to get their payouts it will drop
[2016-10-30 04:33:28] noah sark : cheers guys
[2016-10-30 04:33:49] aethlios : supply will hammer delusional bulls.
[2016-10-30 04:36:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 20 @ 705.57
[2016-10-30 04:41:06] aethlios : 1.58.....
[2016-10-30 04:41:08] laisee : polo 1.63, BFX lagging @ 2.00 - race to the bottom ;-)
[2016-10-30 04:41:47] aethlios : 3 usd a normal price for zcash
[2016-10-30 04:42:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 50 @ 706.85
[2016-10-30 04:42:45] lockhedge : there is no volume at bitfinex ZECBTC 1.56 ZECUSD 0.41
[2016-10-30 04:42:52] lockhedge : 24 volumes
[2016-10-30 04:43:49] DOGG : YES
[2016-10-30 04:44:03] lockhedge : vs. 442 ZEC 24h at poloniex vs. 614 here
[2016-10-30 04:44:13] DOGG : O
[2016-10-30 05:05:21] billz : Buy orders on polo for zec rising now
[2016-10-30 05:05:51] imabeast : if u say so lol
[2016-10-30 05:08:35] billz : get carressed
[2016-10-30 05:10:23] Coach_Z : we need 50% limits back on ZEC
[2016-10-30 05:10:46] Coach_Z : otherwise shorts can get squeezed too easy
[2016-10-30 05:10:54] billz : we need no limits
[2016-10-30 05:11:02] Coach_Z : 50% limit every 8 hours
[2016-10-30 05:11:03] Coach_Z : no caps
[2016-10-30 05:12:12] billz : Coach_Z: wouldn't be fair to people who longed
[2016-10-30 05:12:22] billz : esp. those that longed yesterday
[2016-10-30 05:12:33] Coach_Z : i don't know what longs are hoping for
[2016-10-30 05:12:34] Coach_Z : but ok
[2016-10-30 05:12:40] billz : don't short if you don't have the balls
[2016-10-30 05:12:52] billz : Coach_Z: why are you worried then?
[2016-10-30 05:12:56] Coach_Z : i'm short with liq price over 10
[2016-10-30 05:13:14] billz : I will reiterate, why are you worried? wtf
[2016-10-30 05:16:57] billz : everyone long is hoping shorters get squeezed hard to hell
[2016-10-30 05:20:19] Coach_Z : yeah, i just want to close this out, but i still think 0.3 is high
[2016-10-30 05:20:31] Coach_Z : expecting 0.1
[2016-10-30 05:21:30] Coach_Z : if 50% were in place, I'd take out 10 short contracts
[2016-10-30 05:22:28] imabeast : .3 still is high lol
[2016-10-30 05:22:43] imabeast : if u have enough liquidity u should be fine
[2016-10-30 05:22:53] imabeast : this will drop to less than one soon
[2016-10-30 05:24:49] vijay : I thought ZEC can hold above BTC price... But i am wrong
[2016-10-30 05:24:55] aethlios : yes bring limits back to increase volumes, 50% will be a big 8 hour change when supply increases
[2016-10-30 05:32:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 185 @ 0.007017
[2016-10-30 05:41:30] aethlios : could have a 100% up limit and -50% down limit every 8 hours.
[2016-10-30 06:05:09] billz : nah zcash is making another push to 10btc
[2016-10-30 06:07:03] billz : 1btc*
[2016-10-30 06:15:22] jjj : （
[2016-10-30 06:46:45] numero : tried to sleep with zecz16 open, no dice
[2016-10-30 06:50:52] aethlios : numero: short open?
[2016-10-30 06:51:20] numero : aethlios: yeah
[2016-10-30 06:56:58] numero : now i can sleep
[2016-10-30 06:57:16] numero : probably owrth it
[2016-10-30 07:13:36] aethlios : i closed my shorts (10) for zcash, just because bitmex maybe soon start marking to index and the price jump to 0.7-1.00 and i can short again.
[2016-10-30 07:14:44] rapidtrades : nice work bailout boy
[2016-10-30 07:15:11] rapidtrades : tell arther to get u a job at goldman sachs after this whole space is shut down by regulations
[2016-10-30 07:17:53] wignodeer : whats the views on zec now?
[2016-10-30 07:20:50] chromaticcr1 : all time low ;)
[2016-10-30 07:21:55] rapidtrades : this whole crypto joke will go to 0 soon
[2016-10-30 07:22:06] rapidtrades : there#s 0 oversight, no regulation and tons of bad actors
[2016-10-30 07:22:13] chromaticcr1 : -1
[2016-10-30 07:22:20] rapidtrades : cash out while u can and keep cold hard cash
[2016-10-30 07:22:35] chromaticcr1 : remove the fuc#ing cap of 0
[2016-10-30 07:22:40] chromaticcr1 : this is not fair
[2016-10-30 07:25:56] aethlios : i guess below 1 spot, bitmex will start quoting to the spot
[2016-10-30 07:26:37] chromaticcr1 : with a basis
[2016-10-30 07:27:17] aethlios : σο ςε ψαν ηαππιλυ ρεμοωε τηε 10 ψαπ
[2016-10-30 07:27:33] aethlios : so we can happily remove the 10 cap
[2016-10-30 07:27:50] rapidtrades : doesn't mater now, damage has been done
[2016-10-30 07:28:15] lockhedge : aethlios: it's still only 495 ZEC 24h volume. at least 1000 ZEC have to be traded, and BitMEX will announce 24h in advance. so at least 2 days
[2016-10-30 07:28:20] rapidtrades : this is the shadiest shit done by an exchange, ever
[2016-10-30 07:28:34] rapidtrades : at least others had the decency to stage a theft
[2016-10-30 07:28:47] rapidtrades : guess arthur doesn't care cos 'we're all children'
[2016-10-30 07:29:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1750 @ 702.75
[2016-10-30 07:29:48] rapidtrades : good luck discovering any hard-coded limits....make sure u 'rely on them' so bitmex can honor the cap
[2016-10-30 07:30:13] rapidtrades : being buddy-buddy with the partners doesn't hurt either
[2016-10-30 07:33:34] rx84 : what / where is the leaderboard?
[2016-10-30 07:37:03] bitbit : monero good to buy?
[2016-10-30 07:37:08] bitbit : or wait..
[2016-10-30 07:37:46] rapidtrades : personally i wouldn't touch anything but btcusd on this exchange
[2016-10-30 07:38:27] miramm1115 : rx84: https://www.bitmex.com/app/leaderboard
[2016-10-30 07:40:24] rx84 : thx
[2016-10-30 07:58:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 100 @ 0.01452
[2016-10-30 08:10:55] michiel_kaas : When do you guys think zcash will be stable?
[2016-10-30 08:11:19] michiel_kaas : and not falling non stop
[2016-10-30 08:12:30] miramm1115 : when altcoin pumpers buy enough to make pumping worth it
[2016-10-30 08:13:01] miramm1115 : still long way to fall
[2016-10-30 08:14:06] chromaticcr1 : current inflation rate: 29192%/year, would take an idiot to do the pump
[2016-10-30 08:14:53] michiel_kaas : hmm
[2016-10-30 08:16:43] chromaticcr1 : FYI, bitcoin is around 4% now
[2016-10-30 08:17:02] michiel_kaas : yup
[2016-10-30 08:17:23] bitbit : is there anyone short on btc still?
[2016-10-30 08:17:28] bitbit : or all long now?
[2016-10-30 08:17:42] bitbit : I am long currently
[2016-10-30 08:34:23] laisee : Bit: shorts == lomgs here at bitmex ??
[2016-10-30 08:36:51] Smartass : aethlios: that how i lost 5.5 btc - Fututres are never easy. 2-3 bad Ticks and you are gone. I had leverage 1...
[2016-10-30 08:49:54] bitbit : when will bitmex start recording zcash price following the zecxbt index?
[2016-10-30 08:50:05] bitbit : price will go up I imagine following that
[2016-10-30 08:50:38] aethlios : Smartass: yes, i opened my short with adequate margin to have liq. price above the cap of 10, or else you can margin called by manipulation or shortterm market volatility. It is bad to be right and not get paid.
[2016-10-30 08:52:44] Smartass : aethlios: you are talking what i feel my liquidation price was 4,84 the price went in a very strange move (1:06 Friday night) to 4,94 i guess it was 41 seconds late it was all normal again...
[2016-10-30 08:54:24] Smartass : i saw all this coming: 2 days ago i wrote here: "I have a hard time seeing the price above 1btc in 5 days" because everyone was talking about whether price will be 3 or 5 btc on dec 30...
[2016-10-30 08:54:39] Smartass : but that didn't help me....
[2016-10-30 08:57:08] aethlios : Smartass: you tried to explain the market based that all think rational, but irrational traders created the profit opportunity of shorting above 1 or even above 0.3, so it is important to estimate the expected irrational level of the others in order to place the trade the right time.
[2016-10-30 08:58:16] lockhedge : “The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.”
[2016-10-30 08:59:48] aethlios : for example Michael Burry shorted the housing market early and was paying a lot of interest to his swaps, and could go default if the bubble kept going 2 more years.
[2016-10-30 09:01:58] aethlios : anyway short is 20 times more difficult than long, need to be multiyear experienced trader, that's why stock brokers always place customers to the long site. Try to offer a retail customer a short idea and will tell you crazy.
[2016-10-30 09:04:42] aethlios : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1vNROeKKaU
[2016-10-30 09:09:43] michiel_kaas : Does anybody here know a good zcash mining profit calculator
[2016-10-30 09:12:29] lockhedge : michiel_kaas: too many variables e.g. price are unknown
[2016-10-30 09:12:56] michiel_kaas : Yeah but with the stats right now
[2016-10-30 09:13:01] Smartass : lockhedge: so true man, so true
[2016-10-30 09:13:33] Smartass : aethlios: yeah to short is really difficult in crypto.
[2016-10-30 09:14:35] Smartass : aethlios: Can you tell me something how did you manage to get liquidation price of 10 at levels of 2? Set leverabe to one and paid in 9btc per contract?
[2016-10-30 09:15:01] Smartass : or is there another trick
[2016-10-30 09:16:31] aethlios : Smartass: check 1x on the leverage and then look to open position tab and column margin, it has a B blue check that and can add margin which increases liq. price
[2016-10-30 09:20:31] michiel_kaas : When are you guys gonna buy zcash?
[2016-10-30 09:21:14] Smartass : aethlios: good to know
[2016-10-30 09:21:23] lockhedge : seems that most of the mining is currently done by the zcash company. more than 260 ZEC (40% of total supply) in these two wallets https://explorer.zcha.in/accounts/t1SaATQbzURpG1qU3vz9Wfn3pwXoTqFtTq2 https://explorer.zcha.in/accounts/t3Vz22vK5z2LcKEdg16Yv4FFneEL1zg9ojd
[2016-10-30 09:21:38] Smartass : michiel_kaas: haha that i would not do for a loooong time
[2016-10-30 09:22:00] Smartass : lockhedge: explains why there is so limited supply on poloni....
[2016-10-30 09:22:23] michiel_kaas : Zcash looks like one big scam
[2016-10-30 09:22:35] lockhedge : these coins probably don't hit the market, they already have been sold via the ZCash Mining Backed Security
[2016-10-30 09:24:23] michiel_kaas : Btw zcash stopped going down
[2016-10-30 09:28:53] mjmj83 : michiel_kaas: Damned Michiel, are you Dutch?
[2016-10-30 09:29:04] michiel_kaas : zekers
[2016-10-30 09:29:22] michiel_kaas : There are really much people Dutch here
[2016-10-30 09:29:34] mjmj83 : Can be.
[2016-10-30 09:30:14] michiel_kaas : Did you get much money of trading?
[2016-10-30 09:30:22] michiel_kaas : succesfull?
[2016-10-30 09:30:40] mjmj83 : I didn't make anything on Zcash, nor did I lose anything..
[2016-10-30 09:30:56] michiel_kaas : no on all the coins
[2016-10-30 09:31:00] michiel_kaas : bitcoin etc
[2016-10-30 09:31:12] mjmj83 : yes, made some
[2016-10-30 09:31:19] mjmj83 : already trading for 2,5 years now
[2016-10-30 09:31:24] michiel_kaas : okay
[2016-10-30 09:31:27] mjmj83 : started with 10k$
[2016-10-30 09:31:38] michiel_kaas : 0,0
[2016-10-30 09:32:21] michiel_kaas : What is the best tip in trading?
[2016-10-30 09:32:42] mjmj83 : Don't take risks you cannot afford.
[2016-10-30 09:32:56] michiel_kaas : hmm alright
[2016-10-30 09:33:01] mjmj83 : #1 tip, right?
[2016-10-30 09:33:19] mjmj83 : And I have been in arbitrage.. not daytrading like most here
[2016-10-30 09:33:23] michiel_kaas : think so
[2016-10-30 09:34:16] mjmj83 : But bitmex is difficult to do arbitrage. They can change your position anytime.
[2016-10-30 09:34:37] michiel_kaas : yup
[2016-10-30 09:35:21] mjmj83 : And it's the wild west here. Yesterday's Zcash... i could not believe people paying more than 1 btc/ZEC at Polo.. it was total madness.
[2016-10-30 09:35:47] michiel_kaas : I was there
[2016-10-30 09:35:51] michiel_kaas : It was first 5k
[2016-10-30 09:35:51] mjmj83 : To buy?
[2016-10-30 09:35:53] michiel_kaas : -,-
[2016-10-30 09:35:55] rapidtrades : they're still paying more then 1 btc
[2016-10-30 09:35:59] michiel_kaas : Nope just to look
[2016-10-30 09:36:02] mjmj83 : Yep, but not for long Rapid
[2016-10-30 09:36:14] rapidtrades : stick to arbs
[2016-10-30 09:36:15] mjmj83 : Price will go below 1 btc within 24 hours I expect
[2016-10-30 09:36:25] mjmj83 : And then drops further
[2016-10-30 09:36:38] michiel_kaas : im 99,9% sure about that
[2016-10-30 09:36:45] michiel_kaas : if the price is not manipulated
[2016-10-30 09:36:45] mjmj83 : About what?
[2016-10-30 09:36:57] michiel_kaas : That the price will drop below 1
[2016-10-30 09:38:16] mjmj83 : Yes. Some here think the price of the future should have gone to 50btc/zec here as well.
[2016-10-30 09:38:31] laisee : i'm holding my mined zcash coins for next pump
[2016-10-30 09:38:35] rapidtrades : f*ck u @mjmj83
[2016-10-30 09:38:43] mjmj83 : But this is future trading, not spot.
[2016-10-30 09:38:46] rapidtrades : insider pos
[2016-10-30 09:38:48] mjmj83 : Love u to Rapid
[2016-10-30 09:39:23] laisee : seems to be a little friction about today ...
[2016-10-30 09:39:39] mjmj83 : I love to see ZEC going up again.. i will short the hell out if it . :)
[2016-10-30 09:40:27] PatioCrasher : bitmex can you cap BTC at $1000 so we can hedge our cold storage like bosses? Thanks. :D
[2016-10-30 09:42:51] PatioCrasher : Total supply of BTC is gonna be 21mil so it will never reach that surely!
[2016-10-30 09:44:36] laisee : never again!
[2016-10-30 09:45:30] PatioCrasher : And if it does they can just say "Oh but everyoe knows it will be under $1000 soon.. we didnt ever think it woud be over $1000 ever.. "
[2016-10-30 09:45:36] PatioCrasher : dont worry about the longs. Fuck em.
[2016-10-30 09:46:50] PatioCrasher : has anyone tried to put a sell in over $1000 on XBT here? lol
[2016-10-30 09:48:28] PatioCrasher : oh lol.. cap is $1mil per btc here I think
[2016-10-30 09:49:00] PatioCrasher : guess btc wont be over that anytime soons
[2016-10-30 09:54:02] lockhedge : max price for XBTUSD is 1000000
[2016-10-30 09:55:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 4 @ 0.374995
[2016-10-30 09:55:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.395437
[2016-10-30 09:55:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 3 @ 0.395713
[2016-10-30 09:55:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 6 @ 0.397945
[2016-10-30 09:55:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.437500
[2016-10-30 09:55:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 6 @ 0.375002
[2016-10-30 09:55:50] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.486500
[2016-10-30 09:55:50] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 5 @ 0.542424
[2016-10-30 09:55:54] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.621250
[2016-10-30 09:55:54] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.644125
[2016-10-30 09:55:54] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 10 @ 0.605916
[2016-10-30 09:55:54] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 4 @ 0.564375
[2016-10-30 09:56:22] laisee : damn, that was quick
[2016-10-30 09:57:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.676414
[2016-10-30 09:57:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.712500
[2016-10-30 09:57:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 3 @ 0.804351
[2016-10-30 09:57:21] lockhedge : spot is not moving yet
[2016-10-30 09:58:04] kryptopojken : holy crap
[2016-10-30 09:58:29] awsome : holy shit..
[2016-10-30 09:58:44] thomaskikansha : ouch
[2016-10-30 09:58:45] awsome : who fucking did this
[2016-10-30 09:58:54] awsome : why
[2016-10-30 09:59:06] laisee : bought earlier today, ADL'ed already
[2016-10-30 09:59:08] zanza : how is the casino going everyone ?
[2016-10-30 09:59:45] awsome : shit this make me crazy
[2016-10-30 09:59:58] laisee : zanza: wheel stopped on my number, then I got thrown out of casino
[2016-10-30 10:00:11] Gr33d : aha
[2016-10-30 10:00:12] zanza : ADL? lol
[2016-10-30 10:00:20] zanza : you know better than to win !
[2016-10-30 10:00:31] laisee : yeah ... couple of BTC profit and no position left ...
[2016-10-30 10:00:51] awsome : zcash... fuck
[2016-10-30 10:01:09] habibi : so many people getting rekt by single market order :D
[2016-10-30 10:01:13] laisee : zcash makes fools out of traders & vice versa
[2016-10-30 10:03:55] imabeast : yikes rekt
[2016-10-30 10:03:56] awsome : shit
[2016-10-30 10:04:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 57 @ 0.547140
[2016-10-30 10:04:13] miramm1115 : nice one
[2016-10-30 10:04:21] Gr33d : lol
[2016-10-30 10:06:05] Mm bot : Is Bitmex going to update zcash to mark price soon?
[2016-10-30 10:06:27] Mm bot : it has enough supply and price is getting much closer to polo
[2016-10-30 10:06:30] imabeast : wonder how much leverage they were using lo
[2016-10-30 10:07:58] lockhedge : Mm bot: not earlier than 24h after polo reached 1000 ZEC volume per day (currently 534)
[2016-10-30 10:12:26] bitbit : what's the best currency to long?
[2016-10-30 10:12:29] bitbit : here on bitmex
[2016-10-30 10:13:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.649998
[2016-10-30 10:13:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.625000
[2016-10-30 10:20:37] Mangalica : where can you see the volume traded in ZEC? simply use current price in BTC or what?
[2016-10-30 10:25:27] lockhedge : Mangalica: here or at poloniex?
[2016-10-30 10:26:10] Mangalica : on polo. My question was in relation to future marking and the requirements before it's implemented
[2016-10-30 10:26:24] michiel_kaas : Hmm zcash is going up
[2016-10-30 10:26:26] lockhedge : look above the chart "24hr Volume: 1898.70325540 BTC / 545.41742322 ZEC"
[2016-10-30 10:26:59] Mangalica : ok so we might reach that easier if zcash goes down a bit more
[2016-10-30 10:32:03] thomaskikansha : I wonder can the rate still be above 1 when the volume meets 1000ZEC
[2016-10-30 10:33:16] aethlios : http://coinjournal.net/tumblebit-part-1-bitcoin-privacy-proposal-compare-monero-zcash/
[2016-10-30 10:53:30] Smartass : @Admin: i think you have a bug with the timestamps of the tradelist you changed the time of them by 1 hour
[2016-10-30 10:56:04] EA_FTW : Smartass: are you in the UK? Clocks went back last night
[2016-10-30 10:56:35] Smartass : no ia m in germany but yes time was set back 1 hour
[2016-10-30 10:56:59] Smartass : But i am talking about the list of historical trades in your account.. That time should not change..
[2016-10-30 10:57:15] Smartass : the timestamps of your trades..
[2016-10-30 10:57:37] lockhedge : it's your local time on the UI
[2016-10-30 10:57:47] EA_FTW : Smartass: That'll be it then, times are set to your local timezone by default, and probably best not to have 2 lots of 1am
[2016-10-30 10:59:15] lockhedge : Smartass: if you use the API or download the csv you'll get UTC timestamps
[2016-10-30 10:59:26] Smartass : What? E. g. i did a trade at the 28th of october at 6:Ü1:17 now its 5:01....
[2016-10-30 11:00:20] Smartass : at 6:01:17 now it says in my PERSONAL Trade list that this trade occured at 5:01... which is wrong
[2016-10-30 11:01:17] EA_FTW : It's set all the times to the current time (UTC)
[2016-10-30 11:01:40] Smartass : which makes no sense since at that time the order could have been executed at 1.17 since limit-up was still valid...
[2016-10-30 11:05:29] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 705.23
[2016-10-30 11:05:29] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 704.91
[2016-10-30 11:05:29] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 9562 @ 704.77
[2016-10-30 11:05:36] REKT : :btc: :soon: :toilet:
[2016-10-30 11:05:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 704.26
[2016-10-30 11:05:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 8301 @ 702.21
[2016-10-30 11:05:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 702.57
[2016-10-30 11:05:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6500 @ 702.97
[2016-10-30 11:05:45] Smartass : so really the historical times of your tradelist change when i change my clock on my PC...
[2016-10-30 11:06:07] miramm1115 : Smartass: was your browser open when the clock was adjusted? in that case you have to restart
[2016-10-30 11:10:05] michiel_kaas : Lol look at the zcash price
[2016-10-30 11:10:22] kryptopojken : its pumping
[2016-10-30 11:10:25] kryptopojken : on polo
[2016-10-30 11:11:49] thomaskikansha : only 250BTC asks till 10
[2016-10-30 11:11:56] Smartass : miramm1115: i now logged out and in 2x but same the historical trades are all one hour to early. Can someone confirm this?
[2016-10-30 11:12:28] wurstgelee : Smartass: daylight saving? ;)
[2016-10-30 11:13:03] wurstgelee : Smartass: your clock is wrong
[2016-10-30 11:13:13] wurstgelee : <-- Smartass
[2016-10-30 11:13:25] Smartass : wurstgelee: hi says everybody that. I mean the list of your historical trades. Check them out their time is one our to early...
[2016-10-30 11:13:43] Smartass : I mean YOUR personal tradelist
[2016-10-30 11:13:44] wurstgelee : aahhhh lol ok
[2016-10-30 11:13:49] wurstgelee : same issue tho
[2016-10-30 11:14:22] Smartass : Why - does the list take the time from my computer??? For trades that are days old!!
[2016-10-30 11:15:26] Smartass : But if i change the time on my computer its not chanaging back - something is wrong here..
[2016-10-30 11:15:38] wurstgelee : @admins personal trade history doesnt account for daylight saving time ;)
[2016-10-30 11:15:56] Smartass : Is @wurstgelee: is it the same with your List?
[2016-10-30 11:15:58] wurstgelee : Smartass: your local time settings have no influence
[2016-10-30 11:16:19] Smartass : wurstgelee: yeah better not - that would crazy...
[2016-10-30 11:16:23] Smartass : ;)
[2016-10-30 11:16:24] wurstgelee : sec
[2016-10-30 11:16:28] wurstgelee : i am not sure
[2016-10-30 11:16:34] Smartass : But you can see what i mean right?
[2016-10-30 11:17:17] Smartass : I have a trade for example 28th of october Zec 1 buy at 05:01:17 for 1.17 that was not possible..
[2016-10-30 11:17:18] wurstgelee : Smartass: i cant tell 100%. no trades since friday
[2016-10-30 11:17:41] wurstgelee : new trades, just executed one, show correctly tho
[2016-10-30 11:17:47] Smartass : I mean the old trades
[2016-10-30 11:17:53] wurstgelee : i can tell if correct
[2016-10-30 11:17:57] wurstgelee : *cant
[2016-10-30 11:18:05] Smartass : as i wrote it changed the times of the old trades
[2016-10-30 11:18:25] Smartass : on zec there were limits
[2016-10-30 11:18:32] Smartass : and you were long right?
[2016-10-30 11:18:40] wurstgelee : oh, sec
[2016-10-30 11:19:08] Smartass : so before 22:00 and 6:00 you could not have certain prices
[2016-10-30 11:19:58] Smartass : so maybe you bought at 28th at 6:00 (which i did) those trade have now a timestamp of 5:xx - at least it shows me...
[2016-10-30 11:21:33] michiel_kaas : Btw what is smart to trade right now
[2016-10-30 11:21:41] michiel_kaas : I'm new
[2016-10-30 11:22:13] wurstgelee : Smartass: i really cant tell right now tbh, my head hurts
[2016-10-30 11:22:41] Smartass : wurstgelee: drinking to much last night huh ;)