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[2016-10-28 02:33:18] zen10 : Stilllight: check out the announcement. top right bullhorn icon
[2016-10-28 02:33:19] aethlios : zcash unlimited in 10 hours, wish you a happy pump journey.
[2016-10-28 02:33:45] zen10 : aethlios: imma buy a porsch
[2016-10-28 02:33:57] zen : What's the exact time that the limit will expire? 12pm CTT? (Central Trollbox Time)
[2016-10-28 02:33:59] mjones : shorting the ZEC top will be sweet till you get auto closed out
[2016-10-28 02:34:22] Stilllight : Ok but
[2016-10-28 02:34:23] zen10 : 04:00 UTC i believe
[2016-10-28 02:34:32] maker101 : This feels a bit shit lol
[2016-10-28 02:34:39] Stilllight : I don't get it. If I was to buy or sell a cash future now
[2016-10-28 02:34:44] Stilllight : how does the limit affect me
[2016-10-28 02:34:46] aethlios : zen10: http://www.mini911.com/porsche-997-gt3-cup-n%C2%B0-28-1/43-minichamps-wap02012316.html
[2016-10-28 02:34:53] maker101 : Might as well be liquidated already
[2016-10-28 02:35:25] Stilllight : also what is free money?
[2016-10-28 02:35:36] rapidtrades : nothing
[2016-10-28 02:35:45] zen : Send me 1 btc and I'll tell you.
[2016-10-28 02:35:49] rapidtrades : noone said anything about free $$$
[2016-10-28 02:36:02] zen10 : Stilllight: like when you're walking down the street and you find some money on the ground.
[2016-10-28 02:36:31] Stilllight : can someone explain the limit to me
[2016-10-28 02:36:49] zen : like a penny, in the middle of the road.
[2016-10-28 02:36:54] zen10 : Stilllight: or youre holding a bunch of ETH and suddenly it forks and you're like. wtf? ETC?
[2016-10-28 02:37:13] rapidtrades : Stilllight: there's a 25% limit to price every 8 hrs
[2016-10-28 02:37:16] zen10 : free money. get some
[2016-10-28 02:37:25] fiq : it means that zcash is going to the moooooon
[2016-10-28 02:37:28] zen10 : rapidtrades: i think it's 50% now
[2016-10-28 02:37:36] Stilllight : rapidtrades: That doesn't mean anything to me
[2016-10-28 02:37:37] rapidtrades : no way
[2016-10-28 02:37:44] Stilllight : guys I am used to just normal trading
[2016-10-28 02:37:49] rapidtrades : Stilllight: it's a bitmex imposed limit
[2016-10-28 02:37:58] Stilllight : I don't understand the limit price and how it affects futures
[2016-10-28 02:38:00] rapidtrades : it's stupid that's what it is
[2016-10-28 02:38:07] Stilllight : imposed limit on what
[2016-10-28 02:38:38] zen10 : Let's make bitmex great again. Drop the limits
[2016-10-28 02:38:50] chromaticcr1 : zen10: yes it will on the next session
[2016-10-28 02:38:52] maker101 : so.............................. I have a limit order set at the limit price along with 61 others
[2016-10-28 02:39:01] Coach_Z : so, 1.174 is the next limit?
[2016-10-28 02:39:03] chromaticcr1 : https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/preparation-for-zcash-launch-limit-notice/
[2016-10-28 02:39:14] zen10 : Coach_Z: so i hear
[2016-10-28 02:39:33] Stilllight : is it a limit on leverage?
[2016-10-28 02:39:35] maker101 : what will happen here?
[2016-10-28 02:39:46] Coach_Z : sucks when people get auto deleveraged
[2016-10-28 02:39:48] fiq : anybody heard about november pump? what does it mean?
[2016-10-28 02:40:10] Coach_Z : anyone get auto deleveraged last round?
[2016-10-28 02:40:25] zen10 : fiq: oh isn't that when btc goes to the moon. it always happens before the holidays
[2016-10-28 02:40:39] Stilllight : zen10: Can you explain what the limit means?
[2016-10-28 02:41:03] rapidtrades : ^^^ link above
[2016-10-28 02:41:30] Stilllight : it doesn't explain what the limit means
[2016-10-28 02:41:48] rapidtrades : yes, yes it does
[2016-10-28 02:42:04] zen10 : Stilllight: it's a limit on how high you can bid. See the link. I'ts in the link. the link
[2016-10-28 02:42:15] chromaticcr1 : Stilllight: limit measn you cant place bid (buy) over the limit up price during the session (of 8 hours), vice versa for limit low
[2016-10-28 02:42:29] Stilllight : they are imposing ''limit up and limit down prices on ZEC16
[2016-10-28 02:42:55] Stilllight : is there a video I can watch on how futures trading works
[2016-10-28 02:43:03] Stilllight : obviously there are things I don't seem to know
[2016-10-28 02:43:21] rapidtrades : this is a one time case
[2016-10-28 02:43:30] Stilllight : rihgt
[2016-10-28 02:43:39] Stilllight : but if i place an order on the market
[2016-10-28 02:43:59] Stilllight : i can just bet it will go higher or lower no?
[2016-10-28 02:44:07] Stilllight : then i don't need to worry about limits
[2016-10-28 02:44:12] chromaticcr1 : http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+futures+trading+works
[2016-10-28 02:44:25] zen10 : @Stilllight you're crackin me up.
[2016-10-28 02:45:07] fiq : what if 1 zcash is 10btc? is it possible?
[2016-10-28 02:45:08] numero : this is wild speculation on something that doesn't exist yet . . . special case indeed
[2016-10-28 02:45:10] chromaticcr1 : "This mechanism prevents deep-pocketed traders from easily manipulating prices & causing unnecessary liquidations." @Stilllight
[2016-10-28 02:45:12] maker101 : I have a short I can't close on Zcash
[2016-10-28 02:45:21] maker101 : This is like.. powerless
[2016-10-28 02:45:22] rapidtrades : Stilllight: limit order it's different from exchange imposed price limits
[2016-10-28 02:45:22] zen10 : i like to show up at a construction site and say, so i just take this jackhammer and point it somewhere right?
[2016-10-28 02:45:27] chromaticcr1 : maker101: you can make it 2x leverage (cross)
[2016-10-28 02:45:53] rapidtrades : maker101: place it at bid and hope for the best
[2016-10-28 02:45:56] chromaticcr1 : maker101: so when the time finally comes (75 minutes to go), you can automatically close your position
[2016-10-28 02:46:03] Stilllight : so the change is imposing an artificial price limit?
[2016-10-28 02:46:14] rapidtrades : yes
[2016-10-28 02:46:20] Stilllight : oooooo
[2016-10-28 02:46:34] Coach_Z : Any ZEC longs hit the ADL and get liquidated?
[2016-10-28 02:47:00] Stilllight : how are people saying this is allowing easy money
[2016-10-28 02:47:54] chromaticcr1 : you'll know in 73 minutes, just place some sell orders ;)
[2016-10-28 02:48:12] Stilllight : well there is nothing stopping the price from going down
[2016-10-28 02:48:19] Stilllight : right now
[2016-10-28 02:48:22] shapeshifter : Coach_Z: yes me
[2016-10-28 02:48:24] Stilllight : which means...
[2016-10-28 02:48:34] Stilllight : but there is something stopping the price from going up
[2016-10-28 02:48:53] Stilllight : so do I just buy now and then sell when the orders all go through?
[2016-10-28 02:49:39] maker101 : so are you saying i just try and close it when the time comes? what is the cross leverage? :P
[2016-10-28 02:49:40] numero : oh snap, I got one!
[2016-10-28 02:50:15] numero : maker101: can i sell you this?
[2016-10-28 02:50:17] French_Canadian : BitMEX_Greg: Previously, I meant: Do you know the approx release time for ZEC on Polo?
[2016-10-28 02:50:34] zen : That's a mistake. Please sell back to market.
[2016-10-28 02:51:30] BitMEX_Arthur : French_Canadian: hard to know, Genesis block is around 13-14 UTC. But where will any supply come from? I don't see how you will be able to trade much of anything on any spot exchange for a few weeks
[2016-10-28 02:51:59] Stilllight : so there is a huge buy wall right now no?
[2016-10-28 02:52:22] zen10 : BitMEX_Arthur: won't there be a couple hundred mined within 24h of genesis?
[2016-10-28 02:52:24] maker101 : Can you please confirm the next max of Zcash so I can at least leave enough margin to avoid being liquidated?
[2016-10-28 02:53:08] BitMEX_Arthur : You can view here https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/ZECZ16
[2016-10-28 02:53:11] maker101 : Liq Price is 1.28 at the moment. I am hoping that will cover it. If not I might as well remove all of the margin :)
[2016-10-28 02:53:24] Coach_Z : shapeshifter: what did you do?
[2016-10-28 02:53:26] chromaticcr1 : zen10: There will be 4.14 coins in circulation in the first 24 hours
[2016-10-28 02:53:33] Coach_Z : how much did it hurt?
[2016-10-28 02:53:34] Stilllight : 104
[2016-10-28 02:53:48] mjones : BitMEX_Arthur: why not let shorts close on ZEC? and just restrict the longs from open
[2016-10-28 02:54:11] zen10 : chromaticcr1: 4.14? that's not very much. going to the moon.
[2016-10-28 02:54:43] maker101 : This feels a bit unfair, I wouldn't have shorted had I know this..
[2016-10-28 02:55:05] Stilllight : why
[2016-10-28 02:55:06] poes : this insane scamcoin lol, they cant even deliver a windows client on launch
[2016-10-28 02:55:11] chromaticcr1 : "slow start: design for first 20000 blocks, which
[2016-10-28 02:55:18] Stilllight : why would people overpay for ZEC
[2016-10-28 02:55:31] Stilllight : just because it is limit in quantity for a short while?
[2016-10-28 02:57:50] kay : you will only find max 5zec volume on opening day
[2016-10-28 02:57:51] mjones : yeah. can put up huge walls on every exchange and the small traders will out bid you and then you can dump on them the coins you mined for cheap
[2016-10-28 02:58:30] xzsd : so, when the mining starts?
[2016-10-28 02:58:41] kay : if you want to short zcash do it with 1x leverage
[2016-10-28 02:59:25] numero : miner's will want to sell ASAP... until pump is over
[2016-10-28 02:59:29] Coach_Z : shapeshifter, were you able to buy back?
[2016-10-28 02:59:43] xzsd : im waiting the LAUNCH, when its comming? today?
[2016-10-28 03:00:25] kay : https://forum.z.cash/t/zcash-detailed-money-supply-curve/1744
[2016-10-28 03:01:32] xzsd : 5000+ zcashs mined per day after the first month
[2016-10-28 03:02:05] kay : https://forum.z.cash/t/buy-or-sell-zcash/1511/35 You can see zcash supply capped at 2m for the first year. zcash fair price will be .2 btc by dec 30.
[2016-10-28 03:03:08] xzsd : any site countdown for the release?
[2016-10-28 03:03:19] QuantFocus : any shorts trapped in their position right now might as well just set your leverage limit to as low as possible
[2016-10-28 03:03:21] Coach_Z : who was that shorter that just dumped like 100 contracts a few hours ago?
[2016-10-28 03:03:37] QuantFocus : yea, you'll get liquidated, but at least it will happen at a more favorable price for you
[2016-10-28 03:04:10] Stilllight : are you guys saying the price is guaranteed now to go up?
[2016-10-28 03:04:15] Stilllight : as soon as the limit is raised?
[2016-10-28 03:04:52] QuantFocus : probably. who knows
[2016-10-28 03:04:55] kay : Stilllight: yes and the big trade has not yet happened
[2016-10-28 03:05:04] Stilllight : big trade?
[2016-10-28 03:05:35] maker101 : QuantFocus: What is the liquidation price when the limit is raised?
[2016-10-28 03:05:37] Coach_Z : limits go away in 10 hours
[2016-10-28 03:05:54] QuantFocus : maker101: depends on your position
[2016-10-28 03:06:16] maker101 : I thought it was going up another 25% max??
[2016-10-28 03:06:17] QuantFocus : you said your liquidation is up to 1.2xx, so you should be safe for this round
[2016-10-28 03:06:27] maker101 : 1.282268
[2016-10-28 03:06:30] kay : maker101: 1.17
[2016-10-28 03:06:46] maker101 : ok so I will lose money but should avoid be liquidated
[2016-10-28 03:07:10] maker101 : Bitmex should cancel this order for me, it's a bit strange :P
[2016-10-28 03:07:24] Stilllight : how long until limits get removed? Can i deposit some btw now?
[2016-10-28 03:07:37] kay : maker101: have you taken leverage?
[2016-10-28 03:08:05] maker101 : what do you mean taken levwerage?
[2016-10-28 03:08:20] kay : Stilllight: watch the time above 4.00 utc
[2016-10-28 03:09:46] zen : In at limit. Thanks for cancelling your orders peeps!
[2016-10-28 03:10:01] maker101 : hey
[2016-10-28 03:10:12] maker101 : My short has gone? :)
[2016-10-28 03:10:17] zen10 : maker101: so the price just dipped
[2016-10-28 03:10:30] maker101 : yey lol
[2016-10-28 03:10:41] chromaticcr1 : liqfest in 50 minutes
[2016-10-28 03:10:44] maker101 : no i want my short back ? :P :P :P
[2016-10-28 03:10:47] maker101 : HAHAH
[2016-10-28 03:10:50] Stilllight : what just happene
[2016-10-28 03:11:02] Stilllight : buy wall removed?
[2016-10-28 03:11:45] chromaticcr1 : donald trump will get angry and liquidate your position
[2016-10-28 03:11:55] maker101 : lol
[2016-10-28 03:12:21] maker101 : Stilllight: someone just shorted a load of ZEC
[2016-10-28 03:12:47] maker101 : released me as my limit order kicked in
[2016-10-28 03:13:03] mjones : Zec open contracts way up last 3 hours
[2016-10-28 03:13:15] maker101 : mjones: link?
[2016-10-28 03:13:46] mjones : I am keeping count on my own
[2016-10-28 03:13:54] Stilllight : what happens if I buy
[2016-10-28 03:13:57] Stilllight : with no leverage
[2016-10-28 03:14:03] Stilllight : there is a liquidation?
[2016-10-28 03:14:09] miramm1115 : sleger re-opening his short ;-)
[2016-10-28 03:14:51] QuantFocus : somebody needs to save the shorts
[2016-10-28 03:14:54] QuantFocus : life just aint fair
[2016-10-28 03:14:59] numero : but...but... the moon
[2016-10-28 03:15:16] maker101 : thanks for saving me lol
[2016-10-28 03:16:38] numero : anytime
[2016-10-28 03:17:40] Nitu : Hi
[2016-10-28 03:17:48] chromaticcr1 : hola
[2016-10-28 03:18:01] Nitu : Zec?
[2016-10-28 03:18:33] Nitu : What next Zec ?
[2016-10-28 03:19:01] chromaticcr1 : earth --> moon ---> UrAnus
[2016-10-28 03:19:19] shapeshifter : chromaticcr1: any link to the change in limits about to happen?
[2016-10-28 03:19:30] chromaticcr1 : https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/preparation-for-zcash-launch-limit-notice/
[2016-10-28 03:20:09] chromaticcr1 : you may see announcement on the top-left "bullhorn" button
[2016-10-28 03:23:33] French_Canadian : BitMEX_Arthur: So if I can read the Bitmex announcement page, ZEC is not expected to be release on Polo or Kraken before 12:00UTC?
[2016-10-28 03:30:27] maker101 : French_Canadian: still got your short open?
[2016-10-28 03:36:36] zen10 : T minus 24 minutes to lift off
[2016-10-28 03:38:15] Smartass : Is it even possible to give a "market order" (without a limit) for a future which has a limit up? I am asking this because a) my last market order was not processed at 22:00 for limit up on zecz16 b) theoretically a market order does not have a limit and might be in violation of the limit-up??
[2016-10-28 03:40:42] chromaticcr1 : because continue to excecute your market order would violate the rules of the contract. You can, however, place MarketWithLeftOverAsLimit, if you know how to operate API
[2016-10-28 03:41:50] chaunceylee : 怎么不让买
[2016-10-28 03:41:56] Smartass : chromaticcr1:don't undestand is it possible or not
[2016-10-28 03:42:11] chaunceylee : 怎么不能买，高一点就不让买
[2016-10-28 03:42:42] chromaticcr1 : 因为已经触及了市场时段的熔断价格限制
[2016-10-28 03:42:57] chromaticcr1 : 价格限制将会在正午12：00再次放宽
[2016-10-28 03:43:35] chaunceylee : 市价平仓也不让
[2016-10-28 03:43:51] Smartass : chromaticcr1: sry man don't get it is it possibel or not?
[2016-10-28 03:44:11] chromaticcr1 : chaunceylee: https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/ZECZ16 你可以看看这边有关价格限制的
[2016-10-28 03:44:27] chaunceylee : 完蛋了
[2016-10-28 03:44:45] chromaticcr1 : Smartass: you have API to do so... just that you have to find it...
[2016-10-28 03:44:52] chromaticcr1 : chaunceylee: 你做空了....
[2016-10-28 03:45:11] chaunceylee : 开盘肯定大涨
[2016-10-28 03:45:12] chromaticcr1 : chaunceylee: 现在价格上限放一个限价吧
[2016-10-28 03:45:14] chaunceylee : 我做空了
[2016-10-28 03:45:18] chromaticcr1 : 还有机会的
[2016-10-28 03:45:34] Smartass : chromaticcr1: thx
[2016-10-28 03:45:37] chaunceylee : 至少要涨好几天呀
[2016-10-28 03:45:55] chromaticcr1 : chaunceylee: 天知道啊，当着妖股的炒就对了
[2016-10-28 03:46:15] jeff : 为什么zec这么贵啊？都还没开挖，即使今天正常上线，算力也小得可怜
[2016-10-28 03:46:32] chromaticcr1 : A股妖的就是一天10%，ZEC妖的就是8小时50%...
[2016-10-28 03:46:34] zen10 : Why is everyone speaking french?
[2016-10-28 03:46:57] jeff : It's Chinese, Not French
[2016-10-28 03:47:13] chromaticcr1 : jeff: 供求的问题啊，刚开挖的第一天供应就大概5个
[2016-10-28 03:47:45] zen10 : jeff: really? I knew it was european
[2016-10-28 03:48:36] jeff : 5个？zec的一个区块有多少币啊？
[2016-10-28 03:48:38] chaunceylee : 刚开始供应很少，必然上涨
[2016-10-28 03:48:50] chromaticcr1 : jeff: https://forum.z.cash/t/buy-or-sell-zcash/1511/35 看看这个
[2016-10-28 03:49:12] chromaticcr1 : Voluntary 的回复 天) 供应量
[2016-10-28 03:49:20] chaunceylee : yeah
[2016-10-28 03:49:21] chromaticcr1 : zen10: it is Chinese
[2016-10-28 03:49:22] chaunceylee : chinese
[2016-10-28 03:49:27] chaunceylee : not french
[2016-10-28 03:49:45] Carlos : Not speak in chinese please
[2016-10-28 03:49:46] chaunceylee : hello，frends
[2016-10-28 03:49:53] chaunceylee : why
[2016-10-28 03:50:03] zen10 : S'cuse moi
[2016-10-28 03:50:38] zen10 : See you at 1.17 in t minus 10 minutes.
[2016-10-28 03:50:41] chaunceylee : 1/6 of 6 billion speak chinese
[2016-10-28 03:51:05] Carlos : Or I will speak in spanish
[2016-10-28 03:51:10] zen10 : the others speak European
[2016-10-28 03:51:16] chaunceylee : chinese，let's speak chinese
[2016-10-28 03:51:36] chaunceylee : 哈哈
[2016-10-28 03:51:56] zen10 : I'll speak in Esperanto backwards if zec takes off right now.
[2016-10-28 03:52:10] numero : chaunceylee: 你是中国人吗
[2016-10-28 03:52:23] jeff : You wanna know why BTC price is rising? Learn some Chinese
[2016-10-28 03:52:32] Carlos : focus please in the trade the price is so low XBTUSD
[2016-10-28 03:53:13] chaunceylee : hah
[2016-10-28 03:53:14] chaunceylee : haha
[2016-10-28 03:53:40] chaunceylee : numero: 100% chinese
[2016-10-28 03:53:49] chaunceylee : and you?
[2016-10-28 03:54:03] jeff : the BTC price is manipulated by Chinese already. So will be any other populated coins
[2016-10-28 03:54:04] zen10 : 7 minutes to the feeding frenzy. imma grab some popcorn
[2016-10-28 03:54:11] numero : chaunceylee: no, I am irish
[2016-10-28 03:55:24] imabeast : lehgo
[2016-10-28 03:55:34] imabeast : mass dump incoming
[2016-10-28 03:55:42] numero : chinese government 忽悠
[2016-10-28 03:55:48] numero : great for cryptoland
[2016-10-28 03:56:05] imabeast : the chinese pumping zec!!
[2016-10-28 03:56:12] chromaticcr1 : 接盘侠游戏～
[2016-10-28 03:56:13] numero : it's gonna be an interesting few years
[2016-10-28 03:56:30] Stilllight : it can't be a dump
[2016-10-28 03:56:45] trejderjack : haha, its gonna dump like crazy
[2016-10-28 03:56:59] trejderjack : you gonna loose money
[2016-10-28 03:57:07] imabeast : chinese are gonna dump :(
[2016-10-28 03:57:12] habibi : trejderjack: again, this is not polo trollbox
[2016-10-28 03:57:15] imabeast : lmao
[2016-10-28 03:57:28] frosas : haha
[2016-10-28 03:57:54] frosas : It could dump now if someone wanted to open a bunch of contracts..
[2016-10-28 03:57:59] Stilllight : it could dump now
[2016-10-28 03:58:04] Stilllight : right.
[2016-10-28 03:58:10] Kahir : 1 btc incoming
[2016-10-28 03:58:11] QuantFocus : there were a lot of contracts sold in the last hour or two
[2016-10-28 03:58:12] Kahir : :D
[2016-10-28 03:58:20] imabeast : no this is gonna fly to the next limit lol
[2016-10-28 03:58:32] Stilllight : if the price was going to dump it could laready
[2016-10-28 03:58:43] Stilllight : soooooo maybe this is free money
[2016-10-28 03:58:54] ThisChapsBrexiting : Next limit is 25 or 50% from here?
[2016-10-28 03:59:00] QuantFocus : they're waiting for everyone to throw money at the next limit
[2016-10-28 03:59:04] poes : 50%
[2016-10-28 03:59:09] zen10 : imabeast: what's your prediction on how fast it hits the next limit? I'm guessing 45 seconds
[2016-10-28 03:59:19] Stilllight : ...
[2016-10-28 03:59:22] Stilllight : 1 min
[2016-10-28 03:59:26] aethlios : 1.175 is next limit?
[2016-10-28 03:59:50] frosas : 10
[2016-10-28 03:59:51] frosas : 9
[2016-10-28 03:59:52] frosas : 8
[2016-10-28 03:59:53] poes : go retard whales go
[2016-10-28 03:59:54] frosas : 7
[2016-10-28 03:59:55] frosas : 6
[2016-10-28 03:59:57] frosas : 5
[2016-10-28 03:59:58] frosas : 4
[2016-10-28 04:00:00] frosas : :)
[2016-10-28 04:00:05] saigonese : what will happen with ZEC?
[2016-10-28 04:00:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 6 @ 0.809893
[2016-10-28 04:00:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 46 @ 0.846755
[2016-10-28 04:00:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 19 @ 0.883340
[2016-10-28 04:00:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.852641
[2016-10-28 04:00:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.875000
[2016-10-28 04:00:20] numero : wow
[2016-10-28 04:00:24] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.975000
[2016-10-28 04:00:24] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 25 @ 0.960003
[2016-10-28 04:00:24] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.913768
[2016-10-28 04:00:24] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 71 @ 0.963874
[2016-10-28 04:00:24] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 3 @ 0.979710
[2016-10-28 04:00:24] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.979710
[2016-10-28 04:00:25] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.968829
[2016-10-28 04:00:25] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.914396
[2016-10-28 04:00:25] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.979710
[2016-10-28 04:00:25] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.979710
[2016-10-28 04:00:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 1.035693
[2016-10-28 04:00:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 4 @ 0.992047
[2016-10-28 04:00:34] zen10 : oh wow. that's some serious liquidations
[2016-10-28 04:00:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 3 @ 1.110338
[2016-10-28 04:00:39] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 1.129355
[2016-10-28 04:00:39] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 13 @ 1.122242
[2016-10-28 04:00:54] sebaas : sick
[2016-10-28 04:01:00] zen10 : wow. hit the limit in 35seconds
[2016-10-28 04:01:00] poes : hahahahaa retardeeeeeeed
[2016-10-28 04:01:02] Kahir : thanks
[2016-10-28 04:01:12] imabeast : wait wth how did i get de leveraged?!??!
[2016-10-28 04:01:14] ThisChapsBrexiting : ADL out of my long completely. Holy suck.
[2016-10-28 04:01:18] numero : 月亮!
[2016-10-28 04:01:19] aethlios : I am short 15 at 1.175, thanks.
[2016-10-28 04:01:33] laisee : Some aad shorts out there today ...
[2016-10-28 04:01:40] imabeast : wait how did i get de leveraged?
[2016-10-28 04:01:47] frosas : I had stop limit order and didn't even fill :(
[2016-10-28 04:02:02] chromaticcr1 : 中国的小伙伴们加一下weixin群吧
[2016-10-28 04:02:06] QuantFocus : haha, you suckers
[2016-10-28 04:02:13] QuantFocus : bought into that...who are you selling to now?
[2016-10-28 04:02:26] QuantFocus : gg
[2016-10-28 04:03:02] Stilllight : so can one buy and sell at will??
[2016-10-28 04:03:26] sebaas : bye all
[2016-10-28 04:04:39] sebaas : cunt exchange
[2016-10-28 04:05:23] imabeast : how did i get deleveraged and all my longs got closed!??!?
[2016-10-28 04:05:30] imabeast : i didnt want to sell
[2016-10-28 04:05:32] imabeast : wth
[2016-10-28 04:05:50] ThisChapsBrexiting : https://www.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveraging
[2016-10-28 04:06:15] Mm bot : Got ADL out my Z the second time
[2016-10-28 04:06:20] kay : imabeast: it happens here often.look into the green near order book
[2016-10-28 04:06:30] laisee : Dats the rules of the game at bmx
[2016-10-28 04:06:44] Stilllight : If I sell does that mean I am betting the price goes up?
[2016-10-28 04:07:15] sebaas : Stilllight: don't do it if you need to ask this
[2016-10-28 04:07:15] Mm bot : Can I opt out ADL if I go 1x?
[2016-10-28 04:07:22] numero : lol
[2016-10-28 04:07:31] fiq : what the heck? did it hit the limit again????
[2016-10-28 04:07:40] QuantFocus : enjoy your bags
[2016-10-28 04:07:40] aethlios : longs sell now that suckers still buy.
[2016-10-28 04:07:57] aethlios : don't stay with the bag on hand.
[2016-10-28 04:08:08] Smartass : kay: don't get it neither what mean the colors?
[2016-10-28 04:09:16] sebaas : bitmex maffia
[2016-10-28 04:09:24] numero : well it looks like free money
[2016-10-28 04:09:37] tedy : hey, am I tripping or 1ZEC = 1BTC?
[2016-10-28 04:09:50] QuantFocus : you're tripping
[2016-10-28 04:09:56] QuantFocus : 1 zec = 1.13btc
[2016-10-28 04:10:02] tedy : LOL
[2016-10-28 04:10:23] aethlios : i am taking a picture of orderbook to remember in one year!!!
[2016-10-28 04:10:29] Stilllight : wait
[2016-10-28 04:10:36] Kahir : 2 btc soon boies
[2016-10-28 04:10:40] Stilllight : I thought SECZ16 is going to be Spot Market soon?
[2016-10-28 04:10:50] Stilllight : So where is the futures option?
[2016-10-28 04:11:24] jm : is Zcash live on Ploniex?
[2016-10-28 04:11:30] jm : I dont see
[2016-10-28 04:11:31] chromaticcr1 : no
[2016-10-28 04:11:41] jm : where is prcie info from
[2016-10-28 04:11:49] chromaticcr1 : we all idiots
[2016-10-28 04:11:56] Smartass : jm: no it will start after Zcash went live
[2016-10-28 04:12:38] Stilllight : someone explain the idea of the contract expiring DEC30
[2016-10-28 04:12:56] Stilllight : Are we trading our opinion of the ZEC price on DEC30?
[2016-10-28 04:13:08] poes : yup
[2016-10-28 04:13:20] laisee : Da
[2016-10-28 04:13:30] Stilllight : aha
[2016-10-28 04:13:57] sebaas : do not short and get trapped though on zec
[2016-10-28 04:14:05] Smartass : Stilllight: yes your are making a bet on price of Dec 30
[2016-10-28 04:14:15] sebaas : illuiquid loq supply bullshit future
[2016-10-28 04:14:17] imabeast : is there a way to stop ADL?
[2016-10-28 04:14:18] Stilllight : in 8 hours the limits will be removed
[2016-10-28 04:14:34] Cheese : Does the limit go up again?
[2016-10-28 04:16:20] baxterman : there will be 410,000ish ZEC in circulation around Dec 30th. You think pricing will be over $700 a coin then?
[2016-10-28 04:16:36] BitMEX_Arthur : There will be no more limits after 12 UTC today, it will be freely tradable
[2016-10-28 04:17:03] imabeast : @bitmex_arthur how do you prevent ADL?
[2016-10-28 04:17:28] baxterman : ok, nice. so if we buy now, can we freely sell after 12UTC anytime with whatever percentage of profit?
[2016-10-28 04:17:32] imabeast : BitMEX_Arthur: how do you prevent ADL? **
[2016-10-28 04:18:28] BitMEX_Arthur : We can't prevent ADL. ADL is used to ensure no trader has negative equity
[2016-10-28 04:19:31] imabeast : BitMEX_Arthur: i wasnt in negative equity though i got in zec at .34
[2016-10-28 04:19:54] Smartass : BitMEX_Arthur: If i have 1 green bar does this mean my positoned is very much threatended by ADL or not so?
[2016-10-28 04:19:57] chromaticcr1 : well if you count, the limit up and down kinda provides a barrier for preventing extensive ADL happens
[2016-10-28 04:20:21] Smartass : really don't get the colors
[2016-10-28 04:20:42] MrRGnome : imabeast: your position was closed to make sure someone who was liquidated didn't have negative equity
[2016-10-28 04:20:48] MrRGnome : Tha'ts what ADL does
[2016-10-28 04:20:53] imabeast : ah i see
[2016-10-28 04:20:56] maker101 : This is crazy
[2016-10-28 04:21:01] chromaticcr1 : you can click on the ADL signal bar to learn more, it just an indication of what quartile yyou are queued for ADL in the system
[2016-10-28 04:21:22] 99991111 : Does ADL dup everyone in the quartile at once?
[2016-10-28 04:21:27] 99991111 : dump
[2016-10-28 04:21:36] Smartass : so green means no threat of ADL?
[2016-10-28 04:22:03] MrRGnome : the more bars that are filled, the more likely to ADl
[2016-10-28 04:22:05] MrRGnome : the last bar is red.
[2016-10-28 04:22:44] Smartass : MrRGnome: o.k.
[2016-10-28 04:23:18] chromaticcr1 : Smartass: the ADL bar would change accrd to your leverage and PnL, you should keep an eye on that. It just means currently you are relatively less likely to get ADL
[2016-10-28 04:23:41] Stilllight : what happens if you don't leverage
[2016-10-28 04:23:45] MrRGnome : chromaticcr1: pretty sure that's incorrect
[2016-10-28 04:23:50] Stilllight : at 1x?
[2016-10-28 04:23:54] MrRGnome : leverage doesn't matter except for liquidations
[2016-10-28 04:23:57] Stilllight : is there still liquidation
[2016-10-28 04:24:13] MrRGnome : ADl != liquidation, it's the other side of the coin that filsl liquidations
[2016-10-28 04:24:35] chromaticcr1 : Ranking = PNL Percentage * Effective Leverage
[2016-10-28 04:24:47] Smartass : chromaticcr1: ja read it...
[2016-10-28 04:25:25] MrRGnome : Someone gets liquidated, there isn't enough market volume to ge them out fo their position without incurring a negative balance - so it consumes the insurance fund for the difference and fi the insurance fund is empty (it is for zcash) then ADL happens and a profitable or near profit trader is force closed to fill the liquidated users orders
[2016-10-28 04:26:13] MrRGnome : The end result is that profitable or near profitable traders are taking a hit because chronic gamblers can't exit their positions without getting a negative balance
[2016-10-28 04:26:29] numero : wow, the early bird pukes up the worm?
[2016-10-28 04:26:54] imabeast : jeez smh
[2016-10-28 04:27:30] aethlios : bulls sell now that you can, still suckers buy.
[2016-10-28 04:28:04] Eric_Arber : so what happens on short margin calls when there are not enough contracts to buy back to close short positions?
[2016-10-28 04:28:21] Smartass : Eric_Arber: ADL
[2016-10-28 04:28:35] MrRGnome : Eric_Arber: A profitable traders position is closed to create the necessary volume.
[2016-10-28 04:30:17] aethlios : epic hype, 800 usd for a non exist coin
[2016-10-28 04:30:49] numero : ascending triangle straight to limit...
[2016-10-28 04:30:55] numero : looks bullish to me
[2016-10-28 04:32:53] baxterman : numero: lies!
[2016-10-28 04:33:31] numero : ignorance, more like
[2016-10-28 04:35:16] Kahir : 2 btc boies
[2016-10-28 04:35:23] Kahir : dont sell cheap
[2016-10-28 04:35:24] chromaticcr1 : make it 10
[2016-10-28 04:35:36] Kahir : only 100 coin at first day
[2016-10-28 04:37:34] zen10 : whats the new limit up?
[2016-10-28 04:38:04] aethlios : zen10: 1.1756 now, no limit in 8 hours
[2016-10-28 04:38:39] aethlios : i started close my 15 short from 1.175, thanks delusionals
[2016-10-28 04:38:54] zen10 : aethlios: no limit in 8 hours. hmm. how high can these futures go?
[2016-10-28 04:39:05] chromaticcr1 : cant wait for a short squeeze
[2016-10-28 04:39:34] aethlios : zen10: better play with 1 contract, sell 5 buy back at 2 and make 3 btc
[2016-10-28 04:40:05] zen10 : Kahir: I keep hearing different numbers. Isn't it 12btc every hour ?
[2016-10-28 04:40:50] aethlios : 12 billion market cap zcash with no coins yet.
[2016-10-28 04:41:11] zen10 : aethlios: not a bad risk ratio
[2016-10-28 04:41:23] habibi : aethlios: learn how to do the math, or how to troll people in chat
[2016-10-28 04:41:48] aethlios : little guy needs 2.5 btc margin to open 1 contract at 5,
[2016-10-28 04:43:50] maker101 : Zec is under priced
[2016-10-28 04:44:02] aethlios : this is the most speculative instrument ever in crypto
[2016-10-28 04:44:02] jm : aethlios: where do you see that?
[2016-10-28 04:44:21] jm : aethlios: Oh .. just 1.08 * BTC Cap
[2016-10-28 04:44:45] aethlios : jm: make it 1.175 ATH. crazy
[2016-10-28 04:45:02] jm : aethlios: What was last transaction at?
[2016-10-28 04:45:03] aethlios : and monero only 85 million
[2016-10-28 04:45:12] aethlios : 1.084
[2016-10-28 04:45:12] jm : Looks like 1.08
[2016-10-28 04:45:32] jm : Is it trading on any exchange? (i.e., where is BitMex getting pricing info from?
[2016-10-28 04:45:47] baxterman : aethlios: but ZEC isn't going to have crap total for coins for quite some time. Its going to make prices go insane with the hype behind this coin + lack of initial supply
[2016-10-28 04:45:48] aethlios : doesn't exist yet.
[2016-10-28 04:45:49] maker101 : No other exchange trading it
[2016-10-28 04:46:37] aethlios : baxterman: ok agree but this is music chairs play for bulls.
[2016-10-28 04:47:16] aethlios : today starts the real coin, polo bitfinex kraken bittrex
[2016-10-28 04:47:58] aethlios : someone needs to write an article on bloomberg: the delusional bull.
[2016-10-28 04:48:33] baxterman : aethlios: im already out of my initial position. I might buy alittle just to see as I can see this going insane
[2016-10-28 04:49:17] maker101 : panic dump. Back to reality?
[2016-10-28 04:49:18] baxterman : alot of hype, and literally zero supply at the beginning for a few days. Even after 60 days with 400k coins, this price would only be 240mil market cap.
[2016-10-28 04:49:19] Smartass : uh i think its crashing now..
[2016-10-28 04:50:12] aethlios : I sold 15*1.175, thought I have 8 hours for logic people to buy back, already closed 7, 8 left. profit 4 btc now. can make money from stupidity.
[2016-10-28 04:50:35] Smartass : when something crashes after such a run... it usually is horrible panib
[2016-10-28 04:50:46] Eric_Arber : how many zec can get mined per day?
[2016-10-28 04:51:58] aethlios : 3 l3ft to close
[2016-10-28 04:52:01] baxterman : 10 coins to miners every 2.5 minutes. so about 5760 a day.
[2016-10-28 04:52:05] MCT : longers about to eat dust
[2016-10-28 04:52:10] imabeast : ^false
[2016-10-28 04:52:20] imabeast : @baxterman
[2016-10-28 04:52:37] imabeast : first day theirs like 100 coins
[2016-10-28 04:52:47] imabeast : plus 10% to founders
[2016-10-28 04:52:48] imabeast : lol
[2016-10-28 04:52:57] imabeast : there is *
[2016-10-28 04:53:14] maker101 : so founders get a billion. Nice
[2016-10-28 04:53:29] aethlios : feed the founders pockets, also noone can check zcah supply, they can sell you as muas they want.
[2016-10-28 04:54:08] numero : yeah, but if cryptocurrencies really take off we're not talking billions
[2016-10-28 04:54:08] imabeast : maybe we see this dip to .5-.6?
[2016-10-28 04:54:13] maker101 : Easy way to make a billion. Clone bitcoin and add a cit of extra encryption and build hype. Hundreds on anonymous coins other there this is pure hype lol
[2016-10-28 04:54:13] numero : we're talking trillions
[2016-10-28 04:54:30] numero : to insititute deeper NIRP, we'll have to go cashless
[2016-10-28 04:54:41] numero : then ppl may really like zcash
[2016-10-28 04:54:49] baxterman : imabeast: would be amazing to dip that low. im a buyer there
[2016-10-28 04:54:50] numero : long, long term
[2016-10-28 04:56:01] Smartass : I have shorted 1 Zec @ 92,5 now its 90 and ADL warning is at max??? A minimal profit and maximum threat of ADL how can that be??
[2016-10-28 04:56:35] imabeast : dont. short.
[2016-10-28 04:56:40] imabeast : just sayin
[2016-10-28 04:56:41] imabeast : lol
[2016-10-28 04:57:43] baxterman : imabeast: yea, not a good idea.
[2016-10-28 05:01:24] maker101 : we have more drop room and the up is protected for 8 hours :P
[2016-10-28 05:02:26] aethlios : 1000 btc volume
[2016-10-28 05:02:39] 99991111 : what time do limits open up?
[2016-10-28 05:02:42] aethlios : eth 660
[2016-10-28 05:02:51] aethlios : 99991111: in 7 hours
[2016-10-28 05:03:09] 99991111 : 7 or 8?
[2016-10-28 05:03:33] aethlios : 12:00 utc, at next funding time
[2016-10-28 05:04:40] aethlios : also okcoin exoiration in 3 hours.
[2016-10-28 05:05:11] imabeast : think this is gonna need to dump before it goes up again
[2016-10-28 05:05:21] maker101 : buy walls getting eaten? :P
[2016-10-28 05:05:34] aethlios : closed my zcash short, thanks bulls 3.9 btc profit in 1 hour
[2016-10-28 05:06:25] aethlios : I will sell 2 for 5 price, if anyone wants to buy.
[2016-10-28 05:06:25] maker101 : aethlios: you sold too early could have been 10 btc
[2016-10-28 05:06:37] habibi : the way u shilling ur positions says that either u lost a lot on shorting before or u will :D
[2016-10-28 05:06:49] aethlios : maker101: wanted to close before the limit removed
[2016-10-28 05:07:07] maker101 : yeah we have 7 hours
[2016-10-28 05:07:12] maker101 : a lot can happen is 7 hours
[2016-10-28 05:07:35] Kahir : RIP
[2016-10-28 05:07:36] maker101 : 0.701 next buy wall
[2016-10-28 05:07:55] Smartass : and it goes to hell
[2016-10-28 05:08:22] maker101 : 0.85 BTC is not hell. That is second biggest crypto currency by a huge amount
[2016-10-28 05:08:23] jose : and then it goes to 0.5
[2016-10-28 05:08:38] maker101 : 850 million before launch. gg
[2016-10-28 05:09:45] Smartass : yeah for the next 5min then it goes to 0.01...
[2016-10-28 05:10:29] Kahir : hmm
[2016-10-28 05:10:34] Kahir : whats the limit for downside
[2016-10-28 05:10:56] Smartass : when something - after such a run - starts slipping it goes over the cliff watch...
[2016-10-28 05:11:43] aethlios : new delusional bulls in spot will soon be with us
[2016-10-28 05:12:01] Smartass : Kahir: you are right... Free tradingis starting at 14:00h
[2016-10-28 05:12:32] chromaticcr1 : remember 42Coin
[2016-10-28 05:13:02] zmoon : Last chance to get ZCash under 1BTC
[2016-10-28 05:13:11] habibi : chromaticcr1: yep, buy on cryptsy at ~400 btc per and sell hour later at 1600
[2016-10-28 05:13:43] jm : Smartass: yup
[2016-10-28 05:14:28] chromaticcr1 : numbers are virtual, ×FOMO is REAL*
[2016-10-28 05:15:07] janos666 : habibi: Except it's already past 1600 (when adjusted to max supply)
[2016-10-28 05:15:32] Kahir : chromaticcr1: wooh u old mofo
[2016-10-28 05:15:40] habibi : janos666: u can adjust it to dogecoin supply as well it will mean exacly the same
[2016-10-28 05:15:43] Smartass : Oh in this session it can go down to 0.5878 i found out so you can buy a lot cheaper soon
[2016-10-28 05:16:01] maker101 : Limit down - 0.39 Limit up 1.17
[2016-10-28 05:16:28] Smartass : maker101: 0.39 how to come to that number
[2016-10-28 05:16:29] imabeast : guarentee we see a dip before launch
[2016-10-28 05:17:07] maker101 : Smartass: https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/ZECZ16
[2016-10-28 05:17:28] Smartass : maker101: oh you are right my bad very tired - just got up for limitup