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[2016-10-28 05:17:32] chromaticcr1 : this is what cryptocurrencies halving means, yes the price is halving
[2016-10-28 05:17:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 7 @ 0.807007
[2016-10-28 05:18:03] Kahir : ohh boii :D
[2016-10-28 05:18:15] Kahir : here we go
[2016-10-28 05:18:17] MCT : timber
[2016-10-28 05:18:17] maker101 : longs being REKT :P
[2016-10-28 05:18:41] Kahir : panic incoming
[2016-10-28 05:19:01] janos666 : already in...
[2016-10-28 05:19:07] Smartass : Kahir: oh yeah...
[2016-10-28 05:19:13] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 1 @ 0.721309
[2016-10-28 05:19:14] wurstgelee : no enough panic
[2016-10-28 05:19:18] wurstgelee : more please
[2016-10-28 05:19:20] chromaticcr1 : back where we started an hour ago
[2016-10-28 05:19:21] wurstgelee : *Ünot
[2016-10-28 05:19:30] Smartass : wurstgelee: hey wurst it is already gapping
[2016-10-28 05:19:32] Smartass : here it goes
[2016-10-28 05:19:35] wurstgelee : :D :D
[2016-10-28 05:19:37] poes : lol its time
[2016-10-28 05:19:38] wurstgelee : MORE
[2016-10-28 05:19:39] Smartass : to hell
[2016-10-28 05:19:46] chromaticcr1 : trailing stop is your friends, long position takers
[2016-10-28 05:19:47] Smartass : i am short too you too
[2016-10-28 05:19:48] maker101 : ouch long wreckage
[2016-10-28 05:19:51] wurstgelee : also no, way too early for dumping
[2016-10-28 05:20:03] Kahir : damn boi
[2016-10-28 05:20:05] wurstgelee : shorting way 2 dangerous now...//my 2 cents
[2016-10-28 05:20:18] aethlios : wurstgelee: sell and save your capital
[2016-10-28 05:20:25] Smartass : wurstgelee: just one tiny at 92,5
[2016-10-28 05:20:29] wurstgelee : aethlios: haha
[2016-10-28 05:20:33] aethlios : market crushing to normal levels
[2016-10-28 05:20:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 1 @ 0.585000
[2016-10-28 05:20:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 1 @ 0.637500
[2016-10-28 05:20:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 6 @ 0.600255
[2016-10-28 05:20:43] chromaticcr1 : I just *short* my pants
[2016-10-28 05:20:45] imabeast : wowsers
[2016-10-28 05:20:46] imabeast : LOL
[2016-10-28 05:20:50] wurstgelee : wuhahaha
[2016-10-28 05:20:52] Kahir : now the reversal
[2016-10-28 05:20:53] wurstgelee : MORE
[2016-10-28 05:21:27] balon : paniccc
[2016-10-28 05:21:31] Smartass : wurstgelee: high five everybody
[2016-10-28 05:21:40] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-28 05:21:48] aethlios : 30% bid ask spread!!
[2016-10-28 05:21:54] wurstgelee : aethlios: pssst
[2016-10-28 05:21:58] wurstgelee : dont tell anyone
[2016-10-28 05:21:59] maker101 : 570 million. Yeah that is more like it. NOT.
[2016-10-28 05:22:00] wurstgelee : SELL MORE
[2016-10-28 05:22:01] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-28 05:22:29] Kahir : reversal incoming watch out :D
[2016-10-28 05:22:38] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-10-28 05:22:39] wurstgelee : no
[2016-10-28 05:22:41] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-10-28 05:22:41] poes : rofl
[2016-10-28 05:22:51] wurstgelee : oh damn, yes ofc
[2016-10-28 05:22:52] wurstgelee : reversal
[2016-10-28 05:22:55] wurstgelee : sell everything
[2016-10-28 05:22:57] tanaka : Yo
[2016-10-28 05:22:57] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-10-28 05:23:35] aethlios : 50% loss from ATH, that's the reality.
[2016-10-28 05:23:38] Kahir : roller coster
[2016-10-28 05:23:49] imabeast : wow thank you ADL
[2016-10-28 05:23:51] imabeast : lmao
[2016-10-28 05:23:53] imabeast : saved me
[2016-10-28 05:24:07] MCT : All coins = shitcoins
[2016-10-28 05:24:12] maker101 : aethlios: what did I say :P
[2016-10-28 05:24:58] aethlios : cheap 400 usd price
[2016-10-28 05:25:02] imabeast : did anyone short that?
[2016-10-28 05:25:08] imabeast : sheesh
[2016-10-28 05:25:09] aethlios : me
[2016-10-28 05:25:13] miramm1115 : limit up/down is big enough to wreck longs/shorts with very little money, just syaing
[2016-10-28 05:25:22] imabeast : how many contracts?
[2016-10-28 05:25:34] aethlios : 15*1.175, already closed
[2016-10-28 05:25:42] imabeast : wowzers nice
[2016-10-28 05:26:24] Kahir : 2 btc
[2016-10-28 05:26:25] Kahir : soon
[2016-10-28 05:26:31] Mohammad : Hi
[2016-10-28 05:26:38] imabeast : aeth think it dips more?
[2016-10-28 05:26:38] aethlios : dumped to 50% limit up delusional buyers, thought I have 8 hours for some logic to hit the market
[2016-10-28 05:26:40] xyz : is it possible to deposit zec?
[2016-10-28 05:26:56] habibi : aethlios: calm down and wait for ur rekttage
[2016-10-28 05:26:58] aethlios : xyz: no only btc
[2016-10-28 05:27:16] aethlios : habibi: no position, get in and out fast
[2016-10-28 05:27:17] Mohammad : In really zcash=0.57btc???
[2016-10-28 05:27:24] Mohammad : Yes???
[2016-10-28 05:27:38] Smartass : xyz: no since there are no ZEC in existence right now
[2016-10-28 05:27:42] Kahir : incominggg
[2016-10-28 05:27:47] Kahir : reversal boi
[2016-10-28 05:28:04] xyz : so zec price here is pure speculation
[2016-10-28 05:28:25] miramm1115 : all prices everywhere is pure speculation
[2016-10-28 05:28:27] xyz : more like prodigy lol
[2016-10-28 05:28:29] aethlios : xyz: mothing more pure in the world now
[2016-10-28 05:28:51] Mohammad : Now not zetcash ...I'm miner...mine zcash good??
[2016-10-28 05:29:15] xyz : argh i saw the price and mined some zec...
[2016-10-28 05:29:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.807500
[2016-10-28 05:29:46] CaptainDean : this Zec specualtion is completly nutsd !! :P
[2016-10-28 05:30:13] Smartass : CaptainDean: its fuuuuuuun lol
[2016-10-28 05:30:13] Mohammad : Trade zec is enabled??
[2016-10-28 05:30:14] aethlios : short shitty zcash, 3 years teck and buy the bottoming monero, a well known coin and different algo from btc. having btc and monero for the long term.
[2016-10-28 05:30:23] Kahir : 2 btc incomingg
[2016-10-28 05:31:14] CaptainDean : Zcash**
[2016-10-28 05:31:46] kay : some bot is playing foul for buyers
[2016-10-28 05:31:46] Mohammad : Zcash GPU mining or CPU???
[2016-10-28 05:31:52] Smartass : its crashing any sexnd again
[2016-10-28 05:31:57] CaptainDean : Mohammad: both
[2016-10-28 05:32:24] kay : dare to buy at these prices u win
[2016-10-28 05:32:52] Mohammad : CaptainDean: GPU how much h Rx 470
[2016-10-28 05:33:05] CaptainDean : Mohammad: it's calculated in "sol"
[2016-10-28 05:33:06] jose : dat buy wall at 0.62 though
[2016-10-28 05:33:10] poes : zcash uses an overly complex (but admittely cool) old way from 2013 to fix the same problem monero already fixed efficiently hahahahaha
[2016-10-28 05:33:16] CaptainDean : Mohammad: i think it's like 18.5/sol for an RX470
[2016-10-28 05:33:33] imabeast : that swing was ridiculous
[2016-10-28 05:33:52] kay : imabeast: it happens in crypto world
[2016-10-28 05:33:58] Smartass : don't think so no very telling how ask prices are collapsing
[2016-10-28 05:34:00] maker101 : some whale tried to wipe people out lol
[2016-10-28 05:34:04] Mohammad : What Sol ?? This is??h
[2016-10-28 05:35:18] CaptainDean : Mohammad: That's the way they calculate it ... sol for solution i think
[2016-10-28 05:35:32] aethlios : noone selling above 10
[2016-10-28 05:35:45] CaptainDean : Mohammad: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1660023.700
[2016-10-28 05:36:10] Mohammad : CaptainDean: thanks I checked
[2016-10-28 05:36:19] jose : what is the max, again ?
[2016-10-28 05:36:23] CaptainDean : Mohammad: have fun ;-)
[2016-10-28 05:36:35] sabbybibi : the hashing algo is 2-phase: "sol" means solution to phase 1 (equihash without difficulty yet), which then goes on to phase 2 (take sol's sha256-twice hash just like bitcoin, and compare against difficulty)
[2016-10-28 05:36:41] CaptainDean : jose: From now until 12:00 UTC, the price of ZECZ16 may not go below 0.391884 XBT (Limit Down), or above 1.175652 XBT (Limit Up).
[2016-10-28 05:36:43] aethlios : next 3 days will be the wildest speculation ever
[2016-10-28 05:36:49] sabbybibi : so... sol/s is like bitcoin's hash/s
[2016-10-28 05:37:12] CaptainDean : sabbybibi: yep or Mh/s for Eth
[2016-10-28 05:37:24] aethlios : 70% up from the bottom
[2016-10-28 05:37:30] janos666 : CaptainDean: M stands for Mega :)
[2016-10-28 05:37:35] CaptainDean : sabbybibi: no idea why they are using sol/s
[2016-10-28 05:37:37] janos666 : like Kilo or Giga...
[2016-10-28 05:37:48] CaptainDean : janos666: yeah
[2016-10-28 05:38:41] aili : 0.5 btc swings are crazy on zec)
[2016-10-28 05:39:04] imabeast : whale... dump again
[2016-10-28 05:39:05] imabeast : please
[2016-10-28 05:39:27] CaptainDean : wall at 0.69
[2016-10-28 05:39:36] Smartass : going to hell now
[2016-10-28 05:39:38] sabbybibi : CaptainDean: because it's the measure of "candidate headers correct EXCEPT for difficulty filter"/s i.e. the thing most analogous to "hash"[really nonce-choice]/s in bitcoin (or indeed in any other 1-phase rather than 2-phase algo)
[2016-10-28 05:39:45] Kahir : is that donald trump wall :D
[2016-10-28 05:40:03] Smartass : Kahir: hihi +1
[2016-10-28 05:40:07] CaptainDean : Kahir: the Trump tower ! :D
[2016-10-28 05:40:13] jose : no, because someone is really wanting to pay for it
[2016-10-28 05:40:14] Mohammad : CaptainDean: i see.but not understand..1h=1000sol
[2016-10-28 05:40:26] Mohammad : Ot not
[2016-10-28 05:40:59] CaptainDean : sabbybibi: copy that thanks
[2016-10-28 05:41:13] wurstgelee : there is no h/s for zcash
[2016-10-28 05:41:15] aethlios : The genesis block is scheduled to launch at 13:00 UTC today
[2016-10-28 05:41:19] wurstgelee : its sol/s
[2016-10-28 05:41:52] Mohammad : wurstgelee: in pool noted h/s why
[2016-10-28 05:42:10] wurstgelee : stabdard template?
[2016-10-28 05:42:19] wurstgelee : standard
[2016-10-28 05:42:24] imabeast : think we see another dump?
[2016-10-28 05:42:39] cokehead : zcash is going to be a big flop
[2016-10-28 05:42:44] wurstgelee : yes. please sell everyone
[2016-10-28 05:43:14] Smartass : imabeast: japp right now
[2016-10-28 05:43:23] Mohammad : Sol in poll that's Sol's yes??
[2016-10-28 05:43:35] Mohammad : H)s
[2016-10-28 05:47:39] wurstgelee : dont hesitate to hit the sell button please
[2016-10-28 05:48:33] sabbybibi : CaptainDean: (btw some software, e.g. that used by NiceHash, has renamed what they previously called H/s to "I/s" - I for iterations of *phase 1* [equihash] - cos that's a less confusing name)
[2016-10-28 05:49:08] sabbybibi : CaptainDean: (each "I" produces a variable number of phase 1 "sol"s - on average just under 2)
[2016-10-28 05:49:14] CaptainDean : sabbybibi: thanks for the explanation, appreciated
[2016-10-28 05:49:16] Kahir : https://twitter.com/BTC_kahir/status/791879321543639040
[2016-10-28 05:49:23] Kahir : :d
[2016-10-28 05:49:39] wurstgelee : haha
[2016-10-28 05:49:40] sabbybibi : CaptainDean: (it would be exactly 2 if temp-scratchpad-dropping was never done)
[2016-10-28 05:49:42] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-10-28 05:49:46] CaptainDean : Kahir: hahahaha
[2016-10-28 05:49:58] wurstgelee : n1
[2016-10-28 05:50:02] sabbybibi : so "sol/s" is just under twice so-called "H/s" now reb
[2016-10-28 05:50:14] sabbybibi : ...now renamed "I/s"
[2016-10-28 05:50:28] sabbybibi : basically "sol/s" is the one to pay attention to
[2016-10-28 05:50:29] wurstgelee : and now back to selling please
[2016-10-28 05:50:37] wurstgelee : dont distract everyone
[2016-10-28 05:51:06] sabbybibi : (since if you're an observer you don't see the details of what was found by people in phase 1, only how difficult it was for a phase 1 solution to pass phase 2)
[2016-10-28 05:54:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 1 @ 713.89 :punch: :whale:
[2016-10-28 05:54:44] jm : floor about to fall out
[2016-10-28 05:55:03] imabeast : here comes another drop
[2016-10-28 05:55:07] jm : yup
[2016-10-28 05:55:18] CaptainDean : BTC ?
[2016-10-28 05:55:22] imabeast : zec
[2016-10-28 05:55:25] CaptainDean : k
[2016-10-28 05:55:28] jm : zec
[2016-10-28 05:56:46] chromaticcr1 : 还有中国的小伙伴在徘徊吗～
[2016-10-28 06:01:20] imabeast : next bounce at .3?
[2016-10-28 06:02:35] chromaticcr1 : cant wait for market manipulation at 1200UTC
[2016-10-28 06:04:35] Kahir : chromaticcr1: yes boii
[2016-10-28 06:06:21] imabeast : chromaticcr1: predictions?
[2016-10-28 06:06:47] chromaticcr1 : moon ---> UrAnus
[2016-10-28 06:07:05] mario mendez : que precio salio la cotizacion de zcash
[2016-10-28 06:08:30] wurstgelee : bter listing zcash 2. noone wants to be left out.
[2016-10-28 06:08:54] wurstgelee : cant remember all big alt exchanges ever listing a coin on day one.
[2016-10-28 06:08:55] imabeast : u think it drops a little more?
[2016-10-28 06:09:15] wurstgelee : aLso polo announced in advance. what they dont do normally
[2016-10-28 06:09:32] wurstgelee : eager for market shares...
[2016-10-28 06:09:48] BIGSHRIMP : Zcash is still strong and could do more
[2016-10-28 06:09:54] noobeater : made withdrawal from Bitmex 7hrs ago and yet to get my money.
[2016-10-28 06:10:02] aethlios : a coordinated scam
[2016-10-28 06:10:10] jm : noobeater: crap
[2016-10-28 06:10:35] aethlios : noobeater: once per day withdrawals
[2016-10-28 06:10:54] mario mendez : hay que esperar que estabilize el mercado para comprar
[2016-10-28 06:10:58] noobeater : aethlios: what does tht mean
[2016-10-28 06:11:01] mario mendez : algun venezolano
[2016-10-28 06:11:10] noobeater : jm: drunk
[2016-10-28 06:11:17] CaptainDean : noobeater: they do manual withdraw only once a day
[2016-10-28 06:11:22] chromaticcr1 : noobeater: Withdraw are processed once a day, by manual multisignature
[2016-10-28 06:11:24] aethlios : noobeater: they do them manually, so they release every day 16:00 utc
[2016-10-28 06:11:29] wurstgelee : manual multisig process
[2016-10-28 06:11:35] BIGSHRIMP : that sound healthy and secure
[2016-10-28 06:11:37] wurstgelee : slow but secure
[2016-10-28 06:11:40] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-10-28 06:11:40] chromaticcr1 : https://www.bitmex.com/app/withdraw
[2016-10-28 06:11:46] chromaticcr1 : https://www.bitmex.com/app/security#wallet-security
[2016-10-28 06:11:48] wurstgelee : hence only once a day
[2016-10-28 06:11:50] chromaticcr1 : these may help
[2016-10-28 06:12:03] jm : just want my money out
[2016-10-28 06:12:12] wurstgelee : withdraw now
[2016-10-28 06:12:17] wurstgelee : .gets sent later
[2016-10-28 06:12:32] wurstgelee : 13 utc
[2016-10-28 06:12:48] wurstgelee : not 16
[2016-10-28 06:12:49] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-28 06:14:11] noobeater : So if Bitmex had the number of users at Plo and Bitfinex, they will still do manual transactions. Withdrawal will then take 6months-1yr to process.
[2016-10-28 06:15:14] wurstgelee : nope.
[2016-10-28 06:15:22] wurstgelee : each day 13 utc
[2016-10-28 06:15:43] habibi : so far its the safest solution in the city
[2016-10-28 06:15:44] wurstgelee : all withdrawals initiated until 13 utc will be sent at 13 utc
[2016-10-28 06:16:18] miramm1115 : noobeater: bitfinex had very fast withdrawals with all bitcoin in hot wallets
[2016-10-28 06:16:23] wurstgelee : the transactions get creazed automatically.confirmation is a manual process
[2016-10-28 06:16:26] wurstgelee : thats all
[2016-10-28 06:16:35] wurstgelee : *t
[2016-10-28 06:17:27] imabeast : hmmmm should i buy...
[2016-10-28 06:18:00] Nitu : Xrp news ?
[2016-10-28 06:18:25] 200822893@qq.com : 你好
[2016-10-28 06:20:50] chromaticcr1 : 200822893@qq.com: 哈咯～
[2016-10-28 06:21:19] 200822893@qq.com : 如何充值？
[2016-10-28 06:21:32] chromaticcr1 : https://www.bitmex.com/app/deposit
[2016-10-28 06:21:46] 200822893@qq.com : 直接复制这个地址3BMEXqVfKWhYGeDNLfuXVzZbMaHXtahzQm
[2016-10-28 06:22:01] chromaticcr1 : 恩存B到你账户的地址
[2016-10-28 06:22:39] 200822893@qq.com : 元宝网能直接转币过来吗？
[2016-10-28 06:22:59] chromaticcr1 : 是比特币就能直接转过来了
[2016-10-28 06:23:05] chromaticcr1 : 看来你是过来玩ZEC吧
[2016-10-28 06:23:11] chromaticcr1 : 咋们有微信群，那边热闹一点的 weixin://dl/chat?bitmex
[2016-10-28 06:23:20] 200822893@qq.com : P网也行？
[2016-10-28 06:23:37] chromaticcr1 : 嗯嗯，是比特币就能存这个地址
[2016-10-28 06:23:46] 200822893@qq.com : 谢谢
[2016-10-28 06:25:03] chromaticcr1 : 这边冷钱包手动多签署提现，中国时间每天9时清算提现一次，如果你的钱要急着流动的话就多预算一下了
[2016-10-28 06:32:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTCXBT`: Sell 408 @ 0.00579
[2016-10-28 06:41:44] lpj : 微信群这个怎么加？weixin://dl/chat?bitmex
[2016-10-28 06:42:33] BitMEX_Jinming : lpj: 你的微信号是什么，我们可以加你进来
[2016-10-28 06:43:06] XXXX : It is too risky to go long ZEC now. I think i will invest a bit of my zcash profit in zcoin. the next best thing in anonymity after zcash. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1638450.0
[2016-10-28 06:43:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 50 @ 681.62
[2016-10-28 06:43:59] lpj : 微信号：loop-yo 谢谢
[2016-10-28 06:44:16] lpj : loop-Yo
[2016-10-28 06:45:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 50 @ 680.26
[2016-10-28 06:45:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 30000 @ 678.62 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-10-28 06:47:57] 200822893@qq.com : 存款多久到账？
[2016-10-28 06:48:27] chromaticcr1 : 你的比特币会在一个网络确认后到帐。
[2016-10-28 06:49:00] 200822893@qq.com : 半小时了，还没到帐
[2016-10-28 06:49:40] chromaticcr1 : 存款在网络等嗲确认的时候你应该会受到邮件的，你看看你的比特币交易有确认没有
[2016-10-28 06:49:47] 200822893@qq.com : 官方微信号多少？
[2016-10-28 06:52:05] chromaticcr1 : 你在微信找找bitmex应该有的
[2016-10-28 06:52:26] 200822893@qq.com : 谢谢
[2016-10-28 07:06:57] kkk : 谁去把我的挂单给秒啦
[2016-10-28 07:07:56] chromaticcr1 : @接盘侠 :)
[2016-10-28 07:08:29] jose : https://twitter.com/Crypto_God/status/791898746867093504
[2016-10-28 07:08:48] jose : looks like we will have another ride before the big dump
[2016-10-28 07:18:33] HostFat : what do you think about this?
[2016-10-28 07:18:36] HostFat : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j-ZF2ld_UBp6vp93oQUJykzqaZt3DkYsXT2uKmOu-sg/edit#gid=0
[2016-10-28 07:18:41] HostFat : zcash
[2016-10-28 07:23:02] habibi : good stuff, will work on imagination of people, will lead to more fomo.
[2016-10-28 07:24:12] wurstgelee : no fomo selling plz. we are all going to die
[2016-10-28 07:24:13] wurstgelee : thank you
[2016-10-28 07:25:34] chromaticcr1 : let's ADL everyone by market order to 10BTC on 1200UTC
[2016-10-28 07:39:35] 200822893@qq.com : 请问50倍杠杆是默认的还是需要设置？
[2016-10-28 07:43:11] wurstgelee : i need sleep ffs. or more coffee
[2016-10-28 07:43:25] wurstgelee : also please sell ZEC, its doomed, everyone is domed. just sell.
[2016-10-28 07:43:29] wurstgelee : thanks
[2016-10-28 07:43:31] wurstgelee : brb ;)
[2016-10-28 07:43:46] rapidtrades : i was up until 30m before funding then fell asaleep
[2016-10-28 07:43:49] rapidtrades : missed the free money
[2016-10-28 07:44:02] rapidtrades : had alarm set...or so i thought
[2016-10-28 07:44:16] rapidtrades : had...
[2016-10-28 07:44:21] wurstgelee : i considered getting up for that but then decided its not worth it
[2016-10-28 07:44:25] sally : are there any experts here?
[2016-10-28 07:44:31] laisee : Should have kept drinking
[2016-10-28 07:44:41] sally : will the %25 limit be removed on zcash?
[2016-10-28 07:44:42] wurstgelee : laisee: pased out too? ;)
[2016-10-28 07:44:47] wurstgelee : sally: its 50% atm
[2016-10-28 07:44:48] wurstgelee : and yes
[2016-10-28 07:44:52] wurstgelee : read latest announcement
[2016-10-28 07:44:58] wurstgelee : *s
[2016-10-28 07:45:05] wurstgelee : oh right ...coffee
[2016-10-28 07:45:07] sally : lol
[2016-10-28 07:45:32] rapidtrades : zcash gainsz may be over, we're not pushing against the limits no more
[2016-10-28 07:45:56] laisee : from joy ... Was long before the listing and made 400%, now resting
[2016-10-28 07:46:56] laisee : wurst: crazy days in the crypto world
[2016-10-28 07:47:11] habibi : rapidtrades: then short and wait for rektage
[2016-10-28 07:47:31] habibi : i can assure u ath hasnt been reached
[2016-10-28 07:47:58] eth2mars : guys is the Zcash really worth 1 BTC?
[2016-10-28 07:48:18] ytaews : clearly not but markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent etc...
[2016-10-28 07:48:22] habibi : nope, but its worth to buy at 1 btc just to sell at 1.5/2 or whatever
[2016-10-28 07:49:42] eth2mars : wow people here are brave to long/short zcash
[2016-10-28 07:50:44] rapidtrades : not brave just stupid
[2016-10-28 07:52:13] eth2mars : rapidtrades: simliar concept, dude. stupidity implies bravity. simple.
[2016-10-28 07:53:20] habibi : go and try to rationalize urself in any way u want rapid, at the end u are one having pain in the ass for not listening me or others for days here and taking free money
[2016-10-28 07:55:23] eth2mars : wish i have 100x on zec16 to short more
[2016-10-28 07:56:02] eth2mars : why it's only 2x
[2016-10-28 07:58:17] wurstgelee : go on
[2016-10-28 07:58:18] wurstgelee : short
[2016-10-28 07:58:21] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-10-28 07:59:01] zfan : eth2mars: so that you don't lose too much
[2016-10-28 08:00:05] habibi : eth2mars: with anything more than 3-4x i would be able to insta liquidate ur position so u dont know what u talking about
[2016-10-28 08:00:21] eth2mars : oh how merciful
[2016-10-28 08:02:01] eth2mars : habibi: hehe chill out dude, we will find out the winner on the last day of 2016
[2016-10-28 08:02:27] eth2mars : i'm ready to mine zcash
[2016-10-28 08:02:59] habibi : eth2mars: who cares about 30dec price?
[2016-10-28 08:03:32] eth2mars : i accumulated enough eth since olympic and will accumulate zcash ;) will mine till end of year
[2016-10-28 08:04:00] eth2mars : cause i will taking new year vacation in the moon, hehe
[2016-10-28 08:04:46] habibi : good, hope someone will finally show u sell button
[2016-10-28 08:05:38] maker101 : Saltyness
[2016-10-28 08:06:09] maker101 : Shorters vs Longers show always lol
[2016-10-28 08:11:26] wurstgelee : 10:02 - eth2mars: habibi: hehe chill out dude, we will find out the winner on the last day of 2016
[2016-10-28 08:11:29] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-10-28 08:11:35] wurstgelee : u know that u can buy or sell any time?
[2016-10-28 08:11:43] wurstgelee : u dont have to wait for dec 30th....
[2016-10-28 08:12:13] wurstgelee : the price @ dec 30 is completely irrelevant right now
[2016-10-28 08:12:41] wurstgelee : damn u guys
[2016-10-28 08:12:43] wurstgelee : sell not buy :(
[2016-10-28 08:16:27] sally : yeah, shorting zec is easy money
[2016-10-28 08:16:38] sunny : yes
[2016-10-28 08:17:41] chromaticcr1 : sally: if you have sufficient amount of capital and is willing to look at your unrealized loss
[2016-10-28 08:18:54] sally : even the zcash team would consider hedging at these levels
[2016-10-28 08:18:57] sunny : ha
[2016-10-28 08:20:12] maker101 : Couple of Chinese Whales could deposit 100 BTC and literally liquidate us all in seconds
[2016-10-28 08:20:35] maker101 : Likely given the interest
[2016-10-28 08:20:37] maker101 : lol
[2016-10-28 08:20:45] kumarz : hmm, so you guys are short? or just "experts"
[2016-10-28 08:21:12] zfan : just takin' early seats for the show
[2016-10-28 08:21:21] maker101 : kumarz: You question is - Are we shorting or experts?
[2016-10-28 08:21:42] maker101 : If we are experts what do you think our position would be? long
[2016-10-28 08:21:53] maker101 : Is that question actually are you shorting or longing?
[2016-10-28 08:22:08] kumarz : hehe, nah was just askin coz u lot reckon shorting it is easy money
[2016-10-28 08:22:27] maker101 : And you realise this is a trollbox
[2016-10-28 08:22:27] kumarz : when in reality, the exact time to go short it(and not get rekt) is difficult to tell
[2016-10-28 08:22:43] maker101 : and you realise every trade on this exchange is a swap between users?
[2016-10-28 08:22:45] kumarz : yeah yeah I hear ya ... trollbox indeed
[2016-10-28 08:23:04] kumarz : a swap in the true sense or a swap as in zewrosumgame ?
[2016-10-28 08:23:08] maker101 : So essentially you are buying or selling position off other people from this troll box
[2016-10-28 08:23:41] wurstgelee : More asks below .9 please
[2016-10-28 08:23:46] kumarz : ha doesn;t always apply ... a lot of trolls are just trolls(not really trading coz they can;t afford koyn) :p
[2016-10-28 08:23:48] maker101 : in a sense, it's a case of who can outsit each other
[2016-10-28 08:23:55] maker101 : in a sense, we are stealing from each other
[2016-10-28 08:23:56] kumarz : maker101: tru dat
[2016-10-28 08:24:31] zfan : no, its a process of learning
[2016-10-28 08:24:31] maker101 : So EVERYONE SELL now. I mean BUY
[2016-10-28 08:24:54] wurstgelee : seriously. more asks please
[2016-10-28 08:24:54] maker101 : zfan: we are literally stealing from each other lol
[2016-10-28 08:24:57] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-10-28 08:25:45] maker101 : The only winner is Bitmex
[2016-10-28 08:26:52] maker101 : Nice website though, probably took a few hours and a stroke of genius
[2016-10-28 08:27:05] maker101 : so fully deserved in my opinion
[2016-10-28 08:27:09] kumarz : maker101: dammnnn, why so sinikalll
[2016-10-28 08:27:48] maker101 : Love the fact everything uses bitcoin, so we might be longing or shorting alts, but the only really value here lies in BTC
[2016-10-28 08:28:03] maker101 : kumarz: Truths
[2016-10-28 08:29:25] maker101 : You will notice you can't withdraw anything but BTC
[2016-10-28 08:29:43] maker101 : so Bitmex probably own zero of all the alts listed here
[2016-10-28 08:30:18] Boontjie : maker101: yes, this is a futures market, on delivery everyone settles
[2016-10-28 08:31:01] Boontjie : You can have a BTC bet on anything, even who wins the polls, with a corresponding payout
[2016-10-28 08:31:27] Boontjie : The only requirement is a liquid market to determine market price - i.e. Polo in alt cases as used here
[2016-10-28 08:33:02] maker101 : I guess with Zcash they have proven you don't even need a liquid market
[2016-10-28 08:33:14] maker101 : Boontjie: True dat
[2016-10-28 08:33:43] Boontjie : maker101: They dont have mark, they are the market, but you have seen what happens in low liquidity
[2016-10-28 08:33:52] zanza : wow what happened to zcash ?
[2016-10-28 08:33:55] zfan : maker101: you don't need the market at all (ref)
[2016-10-28 08:34:02] maker101 : I do have to ask
[2016-10-28 08:34:03] zanza : did it just triple ?
[2016-10-28 08:34:04] Boontjie : Someone got Gently Caressed
[2016-10-28 08:34:20] maker101 : don't you guys think the size/volume for zcash limits the trade?
[2016-10-28 08:34:28] maker101 : Fact you can only trade 1 Zcash at a time
[2016-10-28 08:34:28] Boontjie : maker101: Thats the point
[2016-10-28 08:34:45] Boontjie : There is so little Zcash and so much hype the price can only go up
[2016-10-28 08:35:05] Boontjie : If no one was buying it would go nowhere, I just stayed away, the bubble will burst
[2016-10-28 08:35:07] maker101 : Nar but... $800 minimum per trade
[2016-10-28 08:35:16] maker101 : Silly
[2016-10-28 08:35:43] Boontjie : maker101: It depends, it needs fundamentals, bitcoin has blockchain and its applications
[2016-10-28 08:36:01] Boontjie : Zcash has... anonimity
[2016-10-28 08:36:07] Dtrade16 : Guys is a 0.40 H/S contract any good for Zcash?
[2016-10-28 08:36:10] maker101 : We need $8. Thing needs to be divided by 100. Truth is they never anticipated an alt getting so big so the system is struggling
[2016-10-28 08:36:25] maker101 : 0.01 ZEC trades
[2016-10-28 08:36:44] Boontjie : yeah, the need to peg it to uSD
[2016-10-28 08:37:01] maker101 : We are all making a minimum of like $600 trades
[2016-10-28 08:37:05] Dtrade16 : Does anyone know how may coins that can mine?
[2016-10-28 08:37:17] maker101 : That's crazy
[2016-10-28 08:37:21] Dtrade16 : Many*
[2016-10-28 08:37:28] maker101 : 21 million
[2016-10-28 08:38:18] Dtrade16 : ??
[2016-10-28 08:38:49] maker101 : The total supply of Zcash is 21 million. Is that what you area asking
[2016-10-28 08:38:51] maker101 : ?
[2016-10-28 08:38:56] Dtrade16 : No
[2016-10-28 08:39:12] maker101 : Dtrade16: Right. Throw me a bone here.
[2016-10-28 08:39:24] Dtrade16 : I'm asking how many coins would a .40 H/S contract mine
[2016-10-28 08:39:31] maker101 : Ahh good question
[2016-10-28 08:39:45] maker101 : I saw those mining contracts with genesys
[2016-10-28 08:39:52] maker101 : is that what are contemplating?
[2016-10-28 08:39:54] Dtrade16 : Yes
[2016-10-28 08:40:06] Dtrade16 : I've already purchased it
[2016-10-28 08:40:14] Dtrade16 : With Zeropond
[2016-10-28 08:40:37] maker101 : Dtrade16: Good luck. I've always had bad experiences with mining shit
[2016-10-28 08:40:55] maker101 : Locked in to a declining contract
[2016-10-28 08:41:05] maker101 : you want a platform like cex.io where you can trade hashes
[2016-10-28 08:41:17] sally : if you use 1-1 on zcash can you be liquidated?
[2016-10-28 08:41:23] Dtrade16 : Yes but this is a tiny contract
[2016-10-28 08:41:39] sally : eg= Short from here or long from here
[2016-10-28 08:41:59] Dtrade16 : maker101: So I'm guessing you don't know how many coins that amount of hash can generate right?
[2016-10-28 08:43:43] maker101 : Dtrade16: no idea!
[2016-10-28 08:43:59] Dtrade16 : maker101: Ok thanks
[2016-10-28 08:44:05] lanbetatester : test
[2016-10-28 08:44:17] maker101 : lanbetatester: Confirmed
[2016-10-28 08:44:35] j8 : sally: longs can only lose 100%, shorts could lose 1000% or more. so you can be long and totally safe, you need a bit less than 1x leverage because of the maintenance margin
[2016-10-28 08:44:44] lanbetatester : good :)
[2016-10-28 08:45:24] sally : j8: so if im short im screwed
[2016-10-28 08:45:33] j8 : yah pretty much
[2016-10-28 08:46:17] sally : so of the 458 btc opened in trades half are short?
[2016-10-28 08:47:01] j8 : that's 458 short and 458 long
[2016-10-28 08:47:03] habibi : sally: there is 458 contracts in shorts and same in longs
[2016-10-28 08:47:39] sally : open value is 458?
[2016-10-28 08:48:05] j8 : 458 btc, not 458 contracts. you're all ready for 1.00 zec/btc aren't you @habibi
[2016-10-28 08:48:49] habibi : j8: i am fine with previous spike, got ADL-ed at 1.04
[2016-10-28 08:49:13] j8 : nothing wrong with that
[2016-10-28 08:49:38] wurstgelee : everything wrong. we are all dommed. please sell oO
[2016-10-28 08:49:43] wurstgelee : *doomed also
[2016-10-28 08:53:35] maker101 : Zscam
[2016-10-28 09:04:33] miramm1115 : zec still so cheap, I'm not going to buy it so cheap, I have my principles
[2016-10-28 09:08:44] RoftheN : Lol. Whether ZEC is a scam or not is not important. The thing is, it starts with 0 blockreward, builds up slowly to 12.5 in 34 days. Which means on day 1, less than 5000 ZEC will be mined, and then it can easily be pumped up
[2016-10-28 09:09:42] habibi : way less, 84-200 depends on calcs
[2016-10-28 09:12:25] wurstgelee : RoftheN: hich means on day 1, less than 5000 ZEC will be mined, and then it can easily be pumped up
[2016-10-28 09:12:26] wurstgelee : no
[2016-10-28 09:12:31] wurstgelee : day one will be 83 ZEC
[2016-10-28 09:12:39] wurstgelee : not 5000
[2016-10-28 09:12:46] wurstgelee : supply after 1 wek will be 4000
[2016-10-28 09:12:48] wurstgelee : total
[2016-10-28 09:12:52] wurstgelee : *week
[2016-10-28 09:13:05] RoftheN : 200 is less than 5000. I'm not good at math so I just said less than 5000 as Im sure it's less
[2016-10-28 09:13:13] wurstgelee : RoftheN: 83!
[2016-10-28 09:13:16] RoftheN : 83 is less than 5000 too
[2016-10-28 09:13:18] RoftheN : just saying
[2016-10-28 09:13:20] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-28 09:13:33] RoftheN : But in that case
[2016-10-28 09:13:39] wurstgelee : 5000 would be a small supply.....83 is a practically non-existing supply
[2016-10-28 09:13:44] RoftheN : It might even go to 1000$
[2016-10-28 09:13:47] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-10-28 09:13:54] RoftheN : Either way, but this future market is for december right?
[2016-10-28 09:14:05] RoftheN : So it's confusing
[2016-10-28 09:14:05] wurstgelee : that doesnt matter.....you dont have to hold until then
[2016-10-28 09:14:07] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-28 09:14:14] wurstgelee : it will follow spot.
[2016-10-28 09:14:15] RoftheN : Yeah but if everyone knows that it will be lower in December
[2016-10-28 09:14:17] RoftheN : Oh okay
[2016-10-28 09:14:21] RoftheN : Then I'll buy some
[2016-10-28 09:14:22] RoftheN : I wish I did yesterday
[2016-10-28 09:14:24] RoftheN : or day before
[2016-10-28 09:14:24] vijay : I am very new for trading here
[2016-10-28 09:14:26] wurstgelee : and spot will be 2btc per zec at some point
[2016-10-28 09:14:30] wurstgelee : *just a guess ;)
[2016-10-28 09:14:39] RoftheN : Well I think today will be ATH
[2016-10-28 09:14:42] maker101 : a low supply of shit is still shit
[2016-10-28 09:14:51] wurstgelee : polo fomo will cause ath
[2016-10-28 09:14:53] habibi : maker101: short it more please then
[2016-10-28 09:15:01] miramm1115 : but it's golden shit!
[2016-10-28 09:15:01] wurstgelee : as long as it isnt listed @ polo, we didnt have ath :P
[2016-10-28 09:15:22] wurstgelee : maker101: please sell me some shit @ .8
[2016-10-28 09:15:29] RoftheN : But it will list on polo today
[2016-10-28 09:15:34] maker101 : habibi: I'm shorting it with all my might. I have all asset tied in shorting this hype shit
[2016-10-28 09:15:39] wurstgelee : RoftheN: polo, finex, kraken, trex, btc-e, shapeshift
[2016-10-28 09:15:43] wurstgelee : all confirmed listing on day 1
[2016-10-28 09:15:50] RoftheN : Exactly
[2016-10-28 09:16:02] RoftheN : Soo ATH is inevitable with such a supply
[2016-10-28 09:16:05] RoftheN : ATH for years
[2016-10-28 09:16:11] wurstgelee : bter not btc-e tho
[2016-10-28 09:16:15] RoftheN : or ever
[2016-10-28 09:16:16] habibi : maker101: thank u, it sounds like a lot of money, i didnt ask for so much but thank u
[2016-10-28 09:16:24] RoftheN : maker101, I think you should wait for tomorrow to short it
[2016-10-28 09:16:36] wurstgelee : maker101: thank you.
[2016-10-28 09:16:41] wurstgelee : you made a mistake but thank you
[2016-10-28 09:16:43] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-28 09:17:00] maker101 : wurstgelee: @RoftheN Short closed thanks for advice
[2016-10-28 09:17:15] RoftheN : Haha
[2016-10-28 09:17:17] wurstgelee : maker101: closed when? :)
[2016-10-28 09:17:18] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-10-28 09:17:25] wurstgelee : tehre were no orders executed in the last 8 mins
[2016-10-28 09:17:42] maker101 : give me a second
[2016-10-28 09:17:58] RoftheN : But yeah I think I'm gonna short and mine tomorrow
[2016-10-28 09:18:03] noldi : ZEC is a burble waiting to burst
[2016-10-28 09:18:08] RoftheN : I wonder what ZEC will do to ETH hashrate
[2016-10-28 09:18:09] wurstgelee : noldi: yes
[2016-10-28 09:18:13] wurstgelee : noone questions that
[2016-10-28 09:18:28] wurstgelee : its not time for bursting yet tho ;)
[2016-10-28 09:18:41] maker101 : If you have the margin, we all know this is not going to be worth 870 million
[2016-10-28 09:18:58] wurstgelee : no point in shorting now no matter what margin u have
[2016-10-28 09:19:06] wurstgelee : imo ;)
[2016-10-28 09:19:09] maker101 : my short is staying with a decent pump room
[2016-10-28 09:19:09] RoftheN : Actually I think it could be in 8 years