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[2016-09-23 00:06:05] rapidtrades : how so?
[2016-09-23 00:06:20] BitMEX_Sam : How else would the price swing so low? If I just had a bid sitting at 150, it would have been filled
[2016-09-23 00:06:21] zanza : did you contact their support rapidtrades? that seems like a big exchange error
[2016-09-23 00:06:29] rapidtrades : zanza: of course
[2016-09-23 00:06:37] rapidtrades : they said ask was over 1000
[2016-09-23 00:06:55] BitMEX_Sam : So did executions actually happen from 130/1000 or did liquidity just totally drop out?
[2016-09-23 00:06:56] zanza : u should make reddit thread
[2016-09-23 00:07:05] zanza : bitcoinamrkets
[2016-09-23 00:07:07] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: it's not a trabeable market, the swings instantly retrace
[2016-09-23 00:07:08] habibi : sue them rapidtrades
[2016-09-23 00:07:26] BitMEX_Sam : Anywhere outside of mt4 to pull that trade history?
[2016-09-23 00:07:27] rapidtrades : u can't sue what you can't see :)
[2016-09-23 00:07:31] sleger : oh the ask was above 1000 so THEY sold YOUR posiiton at a high price hehe
[2016-09-23 00:07:52] rapidtrades : no they sold at 600...weird ass shit
[2016-09-23 00:08:10] habibi : and ur short entry was ?
[2016-09-23 00:08:28] sleger : maybe its because you didnt have enough margin to buy at more than 600
[2016-09-23 00:09:09] rapidtrades : habibi: average was around 590...so it would take a move of 150-200 to margin me at 1/3
[2016-09-23 00:09:21] zanza : if your short was closed at 600, then you didn't lose much then
[2016-09-23 00:09:31] rapidtrades : it's still money...
[2016-09-23 00:09:31] zanza : even though it sucks
[2016-09-23 00:09:46] habibi : rapidtrades: so u got margin called at 600 and all collateral is lost?
[2016-09-23 00:09:57] rapidtrades : they used the 1k price to liquidate ppl but filled me at 600
[2016-09-23 00:10:31] zanza : my FX broker uses BTCE feed for prices on Bitcoin
[2016-09-23 00:10:37] zanza : i don't see any big spikes
[2016-09-23 00:10:52] rapidtrades : zanza: which broker is that
[2016-09-23 00:10:54] zanza : just donw to 584
[2016-09-23 00:11:07] rapidtrades : try the ask price
[2016-09-23 00:11:09] zanza : fxchoice
[2016-09-23 00:11:41] rapidtrades : ok they filtered it....they filtered one of the spikes down to 130
[2016-09-23 00:12:36] rapidtrades : zanza: try btcusd ask
[2016-09-23 00:12:42] rapidtrades : its a different symbol
[2016-09-23 00:13:25] rapidtrades : spike to 1k is there but they filtered the low spike to 130 today
[2016-09-23 00:45:44] laisee : rapidtrades: why would you use a service that has such volatile pricing? or why could you not benefit from it?
[2016-09-23 00:47:12] rapidtrades : you can find my answers above ^^^
[2016-09-23 00:47:39] rapidtrades : i don't plan to use em anymore
[2016-09-23 02:53:05] laisee : rapidtrades: just asking ... sucks if their pricing varies so much because of tech reasons.
[2016-09-23 08:42:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCTXBT`: Buy 1 @ 0.005031 :punch: :whale:
[2016-09-23 10:00:07] RocketScience : Boontjie: From yesterday: This is ETH hash rate, which fell on node computing overload attack
[2016-09-23 13:49:42] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: in my position spec rebalance price was changed to liq price?
[2016-09-23 14:26:32] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: That's a bug, thanks.
[2016-09-23 14:28:20] Susperia : Anything in progress to prevent a disaster like on XMR7D a few hours ago?
[2016-09-23 14:29:05] BitMEX_Sam : Actually, that could have been 100x worse if we didn't have a mark pricing system in place - note nobody was liquidated.
[2016-09-23 14:29:34] habibi : Susperia: what happened?
[2016-09-23 14:29:59] Susperia : habibi: just check recent trades
[2016-09-23 14:30:35] BitMEX_Sam : It just swung about 15% due to thin asks, that's about it. Nobody was liquidated
[2016-09-23 14:30:48] BitMEX_Sam : I wouldn't consider that a disaster, some people just bought higher than they should have. Use limit orders
[2016-09-23 14:31:05] habibi : Susperia: just after settlement? looks like it was perfect occasion to short on that guy
[2016-09-23 14:31:17] habibi : just qty seems to been small
[2016-09-23 14:32:07] BitMEX_Sam : Right - looks to me like the contract settled, the book was thin, and someone market ordered
[2016-09-23 14:32:56] habibi : Susperia: so it was not a disaster, it was opportunity
[2016-09-23 14:33:17] Susperia : looks like it, I'd add a guard that you are going to market buy/sell at stupid price
[2016-09-23 14:33:23] BitMEX_Sam : We do have that guard.
[2016-09-23 14:58:27] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: btw why you using clef insted of google auth?
[2016-09-23 14:58:38] BitMEX_Greg : jung1: We have both
[2016-09-23 14:59:10] BitMEX_Greg : well 2fa, but yeah in addition to Clef
[2016-09-23 14:59:43] jung1 : ok right
[2016-09-23 14:59:44] jung1 : my bad
[2016-09-23 15:00:52] Sqrl : Greg/Sam: How is the Open Interest number calculated for futures? Does a trade where the buyer opens a new long position of one, and the seller opens a new short position of one increase the Open Interest number by 1 or 2?
[2016-09-23 15:01:11] jung1 : https://ico.iconomi.net another succesfull ico. over 5mln usd collected and there are 6 days more
[2016-09-23 15:01:22] BitMEX_Greg : Finding out for you @Sqrl
[2016-09-23 15:01:38] sleger : it's 1
[2016-09-23 15:01:54] sleger : Open Interest 2,014,907
[2016-09-23 15:01:59] sleger : that should answer your question
[2016-09-23 15:02:50] Sqrl : sleger: Hasn't the village you escaped from realised their idiot is missing yet?
[2016-09-23 15:03:24] sleger : cant find your own joke ?
[2016-09-23 15:03:48] sleger : and you dont understand how that open interest answers your question (that you could have found out by yourself should you know how to use a brain)
[2016-09-23 15:04:00] Sqrl : More fun to recycle yours. Although you've used it so many times it's beginning to feel a bit worn out.
[2016-09-23 15:04:26] sleger : twice = so many times ? ok...
[2016-09-23 15:04:47] sleger : coming from someone who asks such stupid questions doesnt mean much anyways
[2016-09-23 15:05:14] Sqrl : /me does the cha-cha...
[2016-09-23 15:06:36] laisee : trollery without Rapid doesn't have the same authentic feel.
[2016-09-23 15:07:42] sleger : thankfully sqrl hasnt been here for long, he probably wont stay too long like most idiots here
[2016-09-23 15:08:29] laisee : idiots passing through, on their way to a more wlecoming village
[2016-09-23 15:09:49] Sqrl : /me does the rhumba...
[2016-09-23 15:11:23] sleger : "me does" -> you chinese ?
[2016-09-23 15:11:32] Sqrl : Do't be racist.
[2016-09-23 15:18:50] sleger : did you at least understand why "Open Interest 2,014,907" answered your question ? @Sqrl
[2016-09-23 15:24:20] laisee : 1 is the lonliest number ....
[2016-09-23 15:26:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 300 @ 598.94
[2016-09-23 15:27:21] sleger : if sqrl had 1 extra brain it would feel lonely
[2016-09-23 16:01:44] Rado : So, even alt coins lost volatility
[2016-09-23 16:01:53] Rado : which coin is the hottest right now?
[2016-09-23 16:08:14] BitMEX_Sam : XMR is still kicking pretty well.
[2016-09-23 16:35:55] mjones : xmr pumping
[2016-09-23 16:36:13] mjones : going for 0.01925 double top
[2016-09-23 19:34:01] mjones : ltc making a move
[2016-09-23 22:00:47] Kahir : lool
[2016-09-23 22:02:54] rapidtrades : Kahir: ?
[2016-09-23 22:34:06] Kahir : yes
[2016-09-23 22:38:59] rapidtrades : what's so funny punk?
[2016-09-23 23:10:40] HackedOnBFX : any mod here?
[2016-09-23 23:29:48] BitMEX_Greg : HackedOnBFX: Hi how can i help?
[2016-09-24 00:44:53] mjones : this is the deadest trollbox i've ever seen
[2016-09-24 00:45:27] mjones : xmr going up but i didnt reopen since settlement
[2016-09-24 01:43:22] petermunnings : Interesting announcement: http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/cf-bitcoin-reference-rate.html?utm_source=cmegroup&utm_medium=friendly&utm_campaign=bitcoin
[2016-09-24 01:45:37] omicron : mjones: I agree. I try to add to the discussion, but looks like most users here are bots
[2016-09-24 01:46:05] omicron : wtf gemini goes to the top of the btc_usd with this auction bullshit
[2016-09-24 01:46:38] omicron : shit exchange. im wondering if this volume on gemini is real. who would want to trade using this auction stuff
[2016-09-24 01:47:11] omicron : ok so the rest of you trolls need to contribute now
[2016-09-24 01:54:44] zanza : could be the Winklevoss dumping
[2016-09-24 02:25:29] omicron : right but who is buying?
[2016-09-24 02:25:59] zanza : greater fool ?
[2016-09-24 04:07:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 277 @ 0.02173
[2016-09-24 04:10:53] mjones : i think gemini volume is all real
[2016-09-24 04:11:12] mjones : and why would the twins dump
[2016-09-24 04:11:19] mjones : they dont need the money
[2016-09-24 04:11:28] mjones : they have more to gain by getting bitcoin more adopted
[2016-09-24 04:51:28] omicron : mjones: its real, but im trying to understand why you wouldnt just buy limit
[2016-09-24 05:13:51] mjones : yeah who knows
[2016-09-24 05:38:41] omicron : although i dont understand it, i guess we have to congratulate them, its successful
[2016-09-24 06:03:00] Tetsuo : the king and his bride will soon reclaim the cryptothrone, their revenge on unworthy blasphemists will be painful merciless
[2016-09-24 06:03:15] Tetsuo : *and
[2016-09-24 06:44:45] laisee : Tetsuo: Trial by combat!
[2016-09-24 07:26:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.08745 :punch: :whale:
[2016-09-24 07:26:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 18 @ 0.08954
[2016-09-24 08:07:12] rapidtrades : still $0 backed for buttfinex....when do they panic sell the tokens?
[2016-09-24 08:23:18] Kalman : rapidtrades: holding your hands open?
[2016-09-24 11:02:24] rapidtrades : holy shit bitcoin froze
[2016-09-24 11:35:11] Mm bot : when are you guys opening new 3m BTC contract?
[2016-09-24 13:38:34] messiaen8844 : Any plans for REP here?
[2016-09-24 13:54:29] BitMEX_Wally : messiaen8844: If it's hot we'll list it
[2016-09-24 13:54:46] messiaen8844 : probably people will need to hedge it
[2016-09-24 13:54:57] messiaen8844 : high market cap, will be very volatile
[2016-09-24 14:27:11] Monty : Good evening gents
[2016-09-24 14:30:57] rapidtrades : 1. it's not evening
[2016-09-24 14:31:01] rapidtrades : 2. no gents here
[2016-09-24 14:31:15] BitMEX_Wally : You counted 1 twice
[2016-09-24 14:31:37] Monty : Haha
[2016-09-24 14:33:36] Monty : rapidtrades: If you are not a gent, what are you?
[2016-09-24 14:34:53] rapidtrades : STOP SELLING
[2016-09-24 14:34:55] rapidtrades : NOOOOO
[2016-09-24 14:35:01] rapidtrades : wait im hedged
[2016-09-24 14:36:03] Monty : I'm long
[2016-09-24 14:36:07] Monty : 8 inches
[2016-09-24 14:41:52] rapidtrades : hope develeraging goes live before bitcoin moves
[2016-09-24 14:42:54] Monty : What is deleveraging?
[2016-09-24 14:46:22] no : "BitMEX employs Auto Deleveraging which means that in some rare cases, leveraged positions in profit may be reduced during certain time periods if a liquidated order cannot be executed in the market."
[2016-09-24 14:46:55] no : That is not live yet, they will be moving from DPE to deleveraging in the future sometime
[2016-09-24 15:05:08] Kalman : more BTC traded @ BitMEX than @ Bitfinex in the last 24h, congrats guys
[2016-09-24 15:07:25] Susperia : Kalman: 0 btc traded actually
[2016-09-24 15:08:06] BitMEX_Wally : http://exchangewar.info/#bitmex
[2016-09-24 15:18:28] Rado : very nice
[2016-09-24 15:18:43] Rado : and fees are one of the best
[2016-09-24 15:19:34] Rado : I still don't get how Chinese exchanges have 1 mill BTC volume
[2016-09-24 15:21:38] messiaen8844 : fake wash volume
[2016-09-24 15:21:39] messiaen8844 : 0 fee
[2016-09-24 15:22:38] Rado : how do you fake the volume?
[2016-09-24 15:23:12] messiaen8844 : 0 fees, trade back and forth
[2016-09-24 15:23:29] messiaen8844 : use bots to sweep the market
[2016-09-24 15:24:24] Rado : what's the point?
[2016-09-24 15:24:34] Rado : unless they make money while doing it
[2016-09-24 16:00:55] rullwull : chinese exchange orders match only with their own orders, never match with users orders
[2016-09-24 16:04:12] BitMEX_Sam : It's a pissing contest, essentially, to see who has the top volume.
[2016-09-24 16:04:29] rullwull : they make money on lending liquidity to the users for 0.1% per day and they charge around 0.2% for CNY withdraw
[2016-09-24 16:04:45] rullwull : BTCC has real volumes
[2016-09-24 16:40:39] omicron : rullwull: wow 0.1%/day? thats 36.5%/year
[2016-09-24 16:41:03] omicron : now what happens if they lend to me and I lose the money they lent?
[2016-09-24 16:44:13] sleger : "omicron: rullwull: wow 0.1%/day? thats 36.5%/year" => epic fail, try again
[2016-09-24 17:09:33] omicron : sleger: im obviously uninfomed because i never trade there. i have no idea if the interest is simple, compounded or what. but it seems high
[2016-09-24 17:09:56] sleger : well if its per day that should answer your question
[2016-09-24 17:10:08] sleger : 0.1%/day is not 36.5%/year
[2016-09-24 18:16:08] justinlooking : sleger: help me understand gemini auction plz
[2016-09-24 18:16:35] sleger : whats to understand
[2016-09-24 18:16:57] justinlooking : https://api.gemini.com/v1/auction/btcusd/history
[2016-09-24 18:18:04] justinlooking : the 10 x indicatives...
[2016-09-24 18:18:06] justinlooking : `"highest_bid_price":"600.10","lowest_ask_price":"600.44","auction_price":"599.50"`
[2016-09-24 18:18:30] BitMEX_Sam : That data does seem a little broken at first glance
[2016-09-24 18:19:18] justinlooking : from docs >Lowest ask price from the continuous order book at the time of the auction event, if available.
[2016-09-24 18:20:35] BitMEX_Sam : So it publishes 9 indicative ticks in the 10 minutes before the auction executes.
[2016-09-24 18:20:41] justinlooking : yes
[2016-09-24 18:20:56] BitMEX_Sam : Scrolling down on https://gemini.com/blog/introducing-the-first-ever-daily-bitcoin-auction/ has some nice explanation. But I agree that those indicative ticks seem wrong
[2016-09-24 18:21:12] justinlooking : but surely lowest_ask_price is broken
[2016-09-24 18:21:16] BitMEX_Sam : It may be actually taking the bid/ask from the regular market
[2016-09-24 18:21:30] justinlooking : oh could be
[2016-09-24 18:21:53] BitMEX_Sam : So it's a way of comparing the auction price with how the regular market was trading. Makes sense actually
[2016-09-24 18:23:13] justinlooking : yeh actually... "continuous orderbook" even says it
[2016-09-24 18:23:22] BitMEX_Sam : What is interesting is the quantity.
[2016-09-24 18:23:28] BitMEX_Sam : It appears everyone is placing last-minute orders.
[2016-09-24 18:24:04] times : anybody？
[2016-09-24 18:24:29] times : help me please
[2016-09-24 18:24:42] BitMEX_Sam : What's your question?
[2016-09-24 18:26:05] times : my account had been stolen
[2016-09-24 18:26:18] times : what can i do ?
[2016-09-24 18:26:27] habibi : times: create a new one! :)
[2016-09-24 18:26:28] omicron : you reused a password?
[2016-09-24 18:26:54] BitMEX_Sam : times: Turn on two-factor auth at https://www.bitmex.com/app/account
[2016-09-24 18:27:39] times : Funds had been transferred
[2016-09-24 18:28:09] omicron : so someone transferred funds out of your account? didnt you get an email confirmation
[2016-09-24 18:28:22] omicron : did you click approve?
[2016-09-24 18:29:11] omicron : bitmex should have records of the email going out and if email has been changed recently, right?
[2016-09-24 18:29:24] BitMEX_Sam : omicron: Email addresses can't be changed.
[2016-09-24 18:29:27] BitMEX_Sam : I'm looking into your history now @times
[2016-09-24 18:29:44] times : i hadnt got an email when the funds been transferred
[2016-09-24 18:30:10] BitMEX_Sam : If you didn't receive an email, that likely means your email account has also been compromised, and the attacker deleted or filtered the email before you were able to see it.
[2016-09-24 18:30:21] BitMEX_Sam : I do have records of that email going out.
[2016-09-24 18:30:45] BitMEX_Sam : It must have been received, because a withdrawal cannot be pushed without that email confirmation.
[2016-09-24 18:31:12] omicron : when they click the confirmation, do you log IP?
[2016-09-24 18:31:40] omicron : coz that would help figure if @times clicked it or someone else did
[2016-09-24 18:32:03] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, we do.
[2016-09-24 18:32:11] times : i cant received the confirmation email
[2016-09-24 18:33:44] times : i can make sure my email is safe
[2016-09-24 18:34:24] omicron : i mean, they could have spoofed the IP as well, but if they are obviously different IPs then @times was hacked.
[2016-09-24 18:34:37] BitMEX_Sam : They were different IPs, and judging by our records your email is compromised @times
[2016-09-24 18:34:37] omicron : esp different countries
[2016-09-24 18:34:50] BitMEX_Sam : The user requested a password reset, confirmed it, then went through the account history & withdrew.
[2016-09-24 18:35:02] omicron : fukkk
[2016-09-24 18:35:08] BitMEX_Sam : We can give you more complete records if you would like to email us @times
[2016-09-24 18:35:16] BitMEX_Sam : Please contact us at support@bitmex.com
[2016-09-24 18:35:42] BitMEX_Sam : I highly recommend enabling two-factor on every account you own on every service, as well as changing your passwords.
[2016-09-24 18:35:54] BitMEX_Sam : Please do so on your email address before emailing us.
[2016-09-24 18:36:02] omicron : the question is, does he have malware on his PC, in which case 2FA wont help too much
[2016-09-24 18:36:15] omicron : best to do everything from a clean computer
[2016-09-24 18:36:39] BitMEX_Sam : Yes. That's also a possibility - less likely but at this point I would advise as much caution as you can manage.
[2016-09-24 18:36:59] omicron : and if your account is compromised and emptied, leave it as is for evidence. create a new email, new bitmex account from a clean machine
[2016-09-24 18:38:38] habibi : omicron: why 2fa won't help in case of malwared pc?
[2016-09-24 18:38:53] omicron : there are malware that specifically target 2fa
[2016-09-24 18:39:27] omicron : the way most 2fa is designed, you basically enter 2 passwords, one you remember, one generated by some app/provider and enter it at once
[2016-09-24 18:39:58] omicron : malware simply waits until you have already logged in and then does things through web api
[2016-09-24 18:42:20] habibi : like withdraw? still needs email comfirmation in addition even it will use same 2fa code from google but i guess there is no posibility to use same 2fa code in same minute to login and then withdraw just coz of security reasons?
[2016-09-24 18:42:58] omicron : there is a principle in computer security that if you lose control of the hardware, there is no way to secure anything it has access to
[2016-09-24 18:43:18] omicron : 2FA, clef whatever wont protect you
[2016-09-24 18:44:02] omicron : the closest thing that is secure today is what coinpit does, except if their key was stored in hardware instead of file
[2016-09-24 18:46:30] omicron : many pro traders have a separate trading computer, which is free from porn or any other malware inducing downloads for this very reason
[2016-09-24 18:47:14] omicron : if you have more than 100 BTC for trading, consider investing a small portion of that for a trading computer
[2016-09-24 18:47:51] habibi : eh still didnt get the part where 2fa doesnt protect ur funds from withdrawing as mentioning above
[2016-09-24 18:48:29] habibi : at the end Sam maybe u could implement U2F so we can use trezor for that
[2016-09-24 18:49:19] omicron : U2F from hardware is good, yes
[2016-09-24 18:53:22] omicron : think of it as session hijacking. once your 2fa sets up your session, malware is free to grab the session token and do anything it wants
[2016-09-24 18:54:21] habibi : even then withdrawing is impossible i guess
[2016-09-24 18:55:32] habibi : hijacker can trade against himself on second acc but then again bitmex has options to revert that transactions
[2016-09-24 18:56:14] omicron : anyway, the point for us is to use a clean trading computer, follow the highest security offererd by the site you use
[2016-09-24 18:56:34] omicron : also use a separate email for every bitcoin trading account if possible
[2016-09-24 18:56:58] omicron : dont reuse passwords, of course. staggering number of people reuse passwords
[2016-09-24 18:57:39] Kalman : omicron: nice advice; what about the bitfinex case ?!
[2016-09-24 18:58:38] omicron : Kalman: the problem is that there is a lot of focus on user security. none of these protect against a security breach on server
[2016-09-24 18:58:48] omicron : or an inside job
[2016-09-24 19:00:13] omicron : so this is what has me interested in coinpit, the idea that coins are not in their control, so they cannot be stolen
[2016-09-24 19:00:28] omicron : at least the ones not in a trade
[2016-09-24 19:02:16] omicron : bitmex has done a good job not keeping any coins on the server. however, as they scale this is going to get difficult manually processing transactions. also .... you need to trust arthur not to run away with all the coins
[2016-09-24 19:03:34] omicron : and in the crypto world .... trust is hard to come by
[2016-09-24 19:21:20] omicron : The stability of bitcoin has made it unattractive to trade. I'm looking into alts
[2016-09-24 19:22:11] omicron : since i dont want to participate in p&d type coins, this leaves me ETH and XMR
[2016-09-24 19:23:18] omicron : LTC/LISK/BFX seem dead. FCT is back tho
[2016-09-24 19:23:42] omicron : any thoughts?
[2016-09-24 19:24:48] Kalman : omicron: if BTC is to boring, increase size ;)
[2016-09-24 19:24:56] Kalman : ^too
[2016-09-24 19:34:47] omicron : something missing in the whole crypto trading scene... cant figure what it is
[2016-09-24 19:44:51] mjones : maybe XMR will continue going up soon. someone trying to hold it down though
[2016-09-24 19:50:00] Rado : hey BitMEX_Sam
[2016-09-24 19:50:24] Rado : my CLEF app shows me logged out, but I am logged in for the last 2 days
[2016-09-24 19:50:41] Rado : when I click logout it says I can't do it from the website
[2016-09-24 19:51:45] Rado : I clicked log out temporary
[2016-09-24 19:51:52] Rado : and logged in again with Clef
[2016-09-24 23:58:17] mjones : xmr breaking down
[2016-09-24 23:59:14] mjones : http://i.imgur.com/ocuFt7E.png
[2016-09-25 00:23:09] Tetsuo : It Looks pretty bad for pedocoin. 0.01 incoming
[2016-09-25 03:04:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 81 @ 0.017187
[2016-09-25 03:13:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 10 @ 61038.0
[2016-09-25 03:41:57] rapidtrades : ok so now this page https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/bitfinex redirects to bitfinex....
[2016-09-25 03:42:05] rapidtrades : now the pitch is 'bitfinex' only
[2016-09-25 03:42:18] rapidtrades : doesn't this mean that no new money will be raised?
[2016-09-25 03:47:53] rapidtrades : Plus now we can't see how much they 'raised'
[2016-09-25 03:48:33] rapidtrades : buttfinex can't be transparent even with their fake shares offering
[2016-09-25 03:51:44] Tetsuo : Fukk u and ur fukkin News about the fukkfaces frim fukkfinex and especially fukk their clownass Tokens
[2016-09-25 04:13:39] lockhedge : rapidtrades: you can still follow how much they raised here https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/bitfinex/conversations currently €70,888
[2016-09-25 04:18:14] rapidtrades : lockhedge: cool tnx
[2016-09-25 04:19:11] rapidtrades : lockhedge: and by raised do they main new cash or ppl transferring their tokens
[2016-09-25 04:19:19] rapidtrades : mean*
[2016-09-25 04:25:03] lockhedge : rapidtrades: this pitch is only for ppl who own at least 1000 bfx tokens, so new investors would have to buy tokens first
[2016-09-25 04:36:53] rapidtrades : lol? then where is the new money gonna come from
[2016-09-25 07:32:02] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: lots of ways
[2016-09-25 07:32:27] arbitrage001 : dont forget even shit coin can raise tens of millions
[2016-09-25 07:33:14] arbitrage001 : semi half broken concept such as dao rasied over 100 millions
[2016-09-25 07:33:40] arbitrage001 : any on going project such as eth hit over 1B market cap
[2016-09-25 07:34:00] arbitrage001 : *and*
[2016-09-25 07:35:25] arbitrage001 : etc market cap is over 100M
[2016-09-25 07:35:45] arbitrage001 : a coin which the developer trying to kill
[2016-09-25 08:10:37] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: but the stocks are not coins
[2016-09-25 08:10:46] rapidtrades : im sorry 'stocks'
[2016-09-25 08:10:59] rapidtrades : even the tokens are not coins....we have no clue how many they issued
[2016-09-25 08:11:24] rapidtrades : no transparency, centrally issued token in a bankrupt liar company
[2016-09-25 08:11:53] rapidtrades : the DAO situation doesn't apply unless smone tried to raise DAO money now....after trust has been lost
[2016-09-25 08:17:13] omicron : dao was an awesome experiment in general publics faith/naivette/gullibility in crypto
[2016-09-25 08:18:22] rapidtrades : dao had a story...and it hadn't f*Cked ppl
[2016-09-25 08:20:24] omicron : ya. bruce wanker did that
[2016-09-25 08:20:53] omicron : the drama was worth the 40 mil or whatever they paid for the reality show
[2016-09-25 08:22:48] rapidtrades : bruce wagner?
[2016-09-25 09:33:23] NRG0 : Thank you all for you hard work in getting zec to 0.093. bought at 0.033 happy days. now let's get to 0.1
[2016-09-25 12:51:24] messiaen8844 : Ripple on Bitmex?
[2016-09-25 12:51:28] messiaen8844 : :D
[2016-09-25 14:13:25] rapidtrades : the slow dump has began
[2016-09-25 14:25:31] rapidtrades : has there been any changes to the funding calc? last few were all 0.009%
[2016-09-25 14:31:13] arbitrage001 : not sure
[2016-09-25 14:31:22] arbitrage001 : miss btc future contract
[2016-09-25 14:31:26] arbitrage001 : 3 months and 6 months
[2016-09-25 14:31:43] arbitrage001 : need to find a way to hedge btc price
[2016-09-25 14:32:34] arbitrage001 : funding rate too unpredictable for heding
[2016-09-25 14:32:42] arbitrage001 : hedging
[2016-09-25 14:36:51] rapidtrades : idk if deleverging works then hedging here will be great
[2016-09-25 14:37:59] rapidtrades : no clawbacks
[2016-09-25 14:51:23] arbitrage001 : there is a new system in place?
[2016-09-25 14:51:26] arbitrage001 : auto develerating
[2016-09-25 14:51:40] arbitrage001 : auto deleveraging
[2016-09-25 14:58:25] rapidtrades : no start of oct
[2016-09-25 16:17:30] Tetsuo : Bull trap for XMR seems denied! Drug addicts, terrorists & pedos , time to spend your coins quick, before they halve in price!
[2016-09-25 17:11:58] mjones : i do wonder when XMR will move
[2016-09-25 18:04:29] atodorov07 : go go
[2016-09-25 18:04:33] atodorov07 : gooooal
[2016-09-26 00:51:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.016843 :punch: :whale:
[2016-09-26 00:57:53] mjones : xmr slowly going down
[2016-09-26 01:39:27] rapidtrades : ^ scholar of the markets right here folks
[2016-09-26 02:11:29] aethlios : 1st blood ico had 30 days to run, with 5.5 mill. maximum raised amount, and reached the target in 5 minutes.
[2016-09-26 02:12:13] aethlios : they raised 5.5 mill. usd in 5 minutes!!!
[2016-09-26 02:13:25] rapidtrades : meanwhile at butffinex 94k after 1 day
[2016-09-26 02:17:54] aethlios : demand for entering finex from outsiders will push bfx up, no bfx no participation.
[2016-09-26 02:24:44] rapidtrades : 94X5=470k
[2016-09-26 02:24:57] rapidtrades : how is 470k gonna pay up 70mil in debts
[2016-09-26 02:27:31] aethlios : last days are most money coming in.
[2016-09-26 02:28:20] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-09-26 02:29:58] rapidtrades : cos that's how it works....94k 94k 94k 94k 69mil
[2016-09-26 02:35:43] aethlios : planning to short delusional zcash bulls???
[2016-09-26 02:40:38] mjones : no
[2016-09-26 02:40:56] mjones : waiting for LTC to pump
[2016-09-26 02:43:33] aethlios : mjones: wait for whales to accumulate more from miners, after 75% of LTC is mined they will pump to 50.
[2016-09-26 02:44:29] mjones : i aint waiting years
[2016-09-26 02:45:25] mjones : at least it's over halfway
[2016-09-26 02:46:14] mjones : some low volume in LTC and it doesnt take much to move it
[2016-09-26 02:46:25] mjones : just need a reason to start the buying
[2016-09-26 02:47:47] mjones : hopefully btc doesnt dump. i dont wanna get rekt
[2016-09-26 02:50:49] aethlios : I think all crypto market is ready to jump to 100 bill market cap, now 12 bill. Listen to Italian prime minister, he is ready to leave euro I guess if Germans push him. A black swan event can boost crypto.
[2016-09-26 02:53:29] rapidtrades : I'm getting a headache again
[2016-09-26 03:00:38] aethlios : Bitmex are you interested in 1ST blood future contract???
[2016-09-26 03:02:45] rapidtrades : please shut up
[2016-09-26 03:05:28] aethlios : I will keep my other fancy ideas for another day.
[2016-09-26 03:17:36] BitMEX_Arthur : aethlios: I'm speaking with the ceo now
[2016-09-26 03:19:25] aethlios : BitMEX_Arthur: yubi.com participated and holds 53% of supply, so it will be tradeable as an iou (large supply) you could use this exchange price for settlement, and not wait for 3 months when real coins will be released.
[2016-09-26 03:19:47] aethlios : BitMEX_Arthur: https://yunbi.com/
[2016-09-26 03:22:26] BitMEX_Arthur : Ok im investigating
[2016-09-26 04:00:11] omicron : any info on 1st blood, hearing it for the first time
[2016-09-26 04:01:52] aethlios : pumpers will pump it hard.
[2016-09-26 04:22:58] zanza : pumpers gunna pump
[2016-09-26 04:26:13] BitMEX_Arthur : Ok so Gatecoin and Yunbi will list an IOU in the next few days
[2016-09-26 04:26:37] BitMEX_Arthur : I will speak with my other team members about listing a 7 day futures contract on it
[2016-09-26 05:29:38] omicron : BitMEX_Arthur: so if it does not have sustained volume you wont list it again? thats a good idea
[2016-09-26 06:36:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 25 @ 0.10180
[2016-09-26 07:14:32] rapidtrades : no bailout for Deutsche Bank
[2016-09-26 07:14:54] rapidtrades : for now :)
[2016-09-26 07:41:44] laisee : a 7 day future? seems a little short-term even for crypto markets ... ;-)
[2016-09-26 07:42:34] rapidtrades : u must be new here :)
[2016-09-26 07:42:37] laisee : else we might start naming currencies after days ... 26-SEP-16 coin
[2016-09-26 07:57:30] rapidtrades : else :)
[2016-09-26 08:01:04] laisee : the currency that pumps twice as hard lives only 1/2 as long etc ....
[2016-09-26 08:26:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 33 @ 604.62
[2016-09-26 08:33:56] rapidtrades : wtf
[2016-09-26 08:34:07] rapidtrades : what an odd time for a pump
[2016-09-26 08:39:17] atodorov07 : strap your seatbelts
[2016-09-26 09:29:30] alayos : odd time tulip?
[2016-09-26 10:31:50] aethlios : deutsche bank down again, get ready for a crash... EU dead... greece italy exit euro, banks dead, btc to 100K.
[2016-09-26 10:34:38] rapidtrades : for the love of everything holy can you please cut the crap
[2016-09-26 10:37:19] aethlios : I am short italian banks since January.
[2016-09-26 10:38:12] rapidtrades : I'm surprised you have the money to short anything
[2016-09-26 11:00:03] Tetsuo : zcash still cheap, BTC parity within 2 weeks!
[2016-09-26 11:00:22] rapidtrades : and idiot number two shows up
[2016-09-26 11:00:32] rapidtrades : the comedy is now complete
[2016-09-26 11:02:15] gunzeon : Tetsuo: Hear Hear !
[2016-09-26 11:23:57] XMRer : lol
[2016-09-26 11:26:19] +1 : I tried to send lol. System won't let me. lol. Rapidtrades is funny
[2016-09-26 11:36:00] laisee : **wut**
[2016-09-26 11:37:10] laisee : switched to chinese and saw Vol increase 100000X
[2016-09-26 11:37:46] laisee : but it was 1.618 BTC being sold back & forth ...
[2016-09-26 12:24:35] rapidtrades : hey what china doesn't know won't hurt them
[2016-09-26 12:39:00] rapidtrades : so are u guys excited about the first presidential debate tonight?
[2016-09-26 12:39:37] rapidtrades : Will Hillary die on stage?
[2016-09-26 12:39:45] rapidtrades : Will Trump call her a cunt?
[2016-09-26 12:40:11] rapidtrades : kunt^^^^
[2016-09-26 12:40:20] rapidtrades : so many questions!
[2016-09-26 13:04:06] Monty : rapidtrades: You can gently caress my kitten
[2016-09-26 13:05:20] mjones : probably the best price to get in for XMR
[2016-09-26 13:05:27] mjones : hold till friday
[2016-09-26 13:10:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 344 @ 0.12404
[2016-09-26 13:11:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 26 @ 0.12618
[2016-09-26 13:13:21] Tetsuo : seems legit
[2016-09-26 13:13:42] habibi : why this liquidation disappeared :p?
[2016-09-26 13:14:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 25 @ 0.09365
[2016-09-26 13:14:42] Tetsuo : at least i was able to sell 6 into it
[2016-09-26 13:14:46] mjones : lol
[2016-09-26 13:14:53] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 343 @ 0.08597
[2016-09-26 13:14:54] mjones : that's one way to get rekt
[2016-09-26 13:15:40] Tetsuo : and just bought back 5 @ 0.085760 1 minute later, thx god
[2016-09-26 13:15:57] Tetsuo : # closed short
[2016-09-26 13:16:05] habibi : BitMEX_Arthur: interesing how liquidations are connected with market maker here :>
[2016-09-26 13:17:00] rapidtrades : wtf happened to that liq..it was at 12 then got moved to 8
[2016-09-26 13:18:41] mjones : damn. should have woke up a bit sooner to catch a xmr long around 0.016 or lower
[2016-09-26 13:18:49] mjones : come back downnn
[2016-09-26 13:21:10] Tetsuo : don´t try to catch a falling pedo dick
[2016-09-26 13:21:35] huangyong : zcash
[2016-09-26 13:24:21] Tetsuo : can´t wait till it collapses 90%+
[2016-09-26 13:24:31] Tetsuo : zcash is the new auroracoin
[2016-09-26 13:25:13] mjones : i guess if btc goes up xmr will go down. i better just stick with BTC
[2016-09-26 13:26:49] habibi : 15:18: buy every monery at 16... Price goes down under 16 15:25 well, maybe btc will go up, i won't buy monero
[2016-09-26 13:26:52] habibi : lol :D
[2016-09-26 13:46:23] laisee : whaling on ZEC ...
[2016-09-26 13:46:56] mjones : zec experiment isnt going that well
[2016-09-26 13:47:45] laisee : zerocoin refers to account balance of ZEC traders
[2016-09-26 13:54:11] mjones : good one
[2016-09-26 13:57:33] laisee : mjones: thanks, I did let myself have a little chuckle at the time.
[2016-09-26 14:25:46] wurstgelee : how is zec experiment not going well?
[2016-09-26 14:43:51] laisee : wurstgelee: investors lost their shorts
[2016-09-26 14:44:22] wurstgelee : how unpredictable... ;)
[2016-09-26 15:02:51] rapidtrades : laisee: what do u mean? price near highs
[2016-09-26 15:26:38] laisee : rapidtrades: "some" investors lost their shorts
[2016-09-26 15:27:14] laisee : but *all* degenerate gamblers will lose theirs. :-0
[2016-09-26 15:30:07] Tetsuo : i´m feelin pretty well with my short entry @ 0.109
[2016-09-26 15:54:32] rapidtrades : laisee: oh..I thought u were speaking metaphorically
[2016-09-26 15:58:14] laisee : losing 342ZEC worth of BTC is no metaphor ... :-/
[2016-09-26 15:59:32] jung1 : zec looks nice
[2016-09-26 16:02:46] hazir : was there a LSK future traded on Bitmex before it's genesis?
[2016-09-26 16:02:57] zanza : no
[2016-09-26 16:03:08] zanza : afaik ZEC is only one
[2016-09-26 16:03:36] hazir : tnx!
[2016-09-26 16:03:40] hazir : ZEC price is crazy but people crazyer
[2016-09-26 16:03:45] hazir : i think...
[2016-09-26 16:06:28] jung1 : im thinking of start to mine it in cloud
[2016-09-26 16:07:33] laisee : jung1: is it asic-resistant?
[2016-09-26 16:09:27] rapidtrades : unfortunately it's not stupid-resistant
[2016-09-26 16:10:11] jung1 : Test-net coins have no value and will be worthless once Zcash is officially launched
[2016-09-26 16:13:52] laisee : i'll buy that for a $
[2016-09-26 16:18:37] jung1 : https://ico.iconomi.net/
[2016-09-26 16:18:40] jung1 : looks good
[2016-09-26 16:20:10] sleger : looks dumb
[2016-09-26 16:20:14] sleger : welcome to dao 2.0
[2016-09-26 16:21:03] sleger : get rich quick scam ran by a group of amateur pretending to revolutionize investment management by charging 2/20...
[2016-09-26 16:22:34] jung1 : I put some coins in it. Imo there will be x2-x4 times more after release
[2016-09-26 16:22:37] jung1 : and then dump
[2016-09-26 16:25:34] laisee : greatestfule wins again
[2016-09-26 16:25:50] habibi : jung1: noone is trading testnet coins here
[2016-09-26 16:26:46] jung1 : yeah bitcoin only
[2016-09-26 16:27:07] jung1 : basicly it depends on us what will be the price of zcash
[2016-09-26 16:27:30] jung1 : <feel the power>
[2016-09-26 17:12:12] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: so whats the story about that liquidation ?
[2016-09-26 17:14:31] rapidtrades : sleger: u sound jaded
[2016-09-26 17:20:48] BitMEX_Greg : habibi: Hi Habibi, I will find out for you
[2016-09-26 17:55:02] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: ZECZ16 is marked to last price so it's reasonable to expect swings to cause a few liqs.
[2016-09-26 17:56:02] BitMEX_Sam : The disappearance of the liq had to do with the limit up/down, we had to make a manual adjustment and commit a change to the automatic adjustment, which is now already active
[2016-09-26 18:27:40] RocketScience : Basically buying 40 ZEC contracts caused a 340 Zec liquidation
[2016-09-26 18:28:27] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, there's nothing strange about that on a LastPrice-marked contract.
[2016-09-26 18:28:48] RocketScience : True. It's very dangerous though to trade it
[2016-09-26 18:43:29] janos666 : You mean actual force-liquidation, as in ~50% move against a 2x leveraged position?
[2016-09-26 18:44:25] janos666 : I mean, it's possible but sounds strange regardless.
[2016-09-26 19:24:49] RocketScience : That position has been acquired during the first green spike at first day, there wasn't enough volume later
[2016-09-26 20:07:02] hedgehog0223 : My Stop Market orders are always being rejected..
[2016-09-26 20:13:20] BitMEX_Greg : hedgehog0223: Hi, do you receive any message when it gets rejected?\
[2016-09-26 20:13:35] hedgehog0223 : nothing
[2016-09-26 20:14:43] BitMEX_Greg : Do you have margin in the account that would allow for the order to execute?
[2016-09-26 20:16:02] hedgehog0223 : I set a Stop Market (buy) at 606,5. I was logged in when the price rose above this point, and I saw that my oder is rejected again istead of triggering at the set trigger price. Yes I do have
[2016-09-26 20:17:32] BitMEX_Greg : What trigger have you selected?
[2016-09-26 20:17:44] hedgehog0223 : Last price
[2016-09-26 20:18:25] hedgehog0223 : 1 set 2 stops with the same quantity
[2016-09-26 20:20:09] BitMEX_Sam : hedgehog0223: I'm seeing a rejection because the order would have increased your position, but you set `Close`
[2016-09-26 20:22:33] hedgehog0223 : I closed all my orders after I saw one of them was rejected. My position was 0 before one of the stops would have triggered
[2016-09-26 20:23:06] BitMEX_Greg : So the stop is set to close your orders. Hover over the "Close on trigger"
[2016-09-26 20:23:11] hedgehog0223 : I mean cancelled my other stop
[2016-09-26 20:23:48] hedgehog0223 : Ohh yes Now I see
[2016-09-26 20:23:50] BitMEX_Sam : The point of the `Close` type is that it will only reduce your position. It worked as designed, if that stop had executed it would have increased your position, which is not what a `Close` Stop is for.
[2016-09-26 20:25:44] hedgehog0223 : Thank you!
[2016-09-26 20:52:49] RocketScience : What are the trades writte with bold black letters in recent trades without up or down arrow?
[2016-09-26 20:54:29] RocketScience : I mean red for short, green for long and black for ...
[2016-09-26 20:56:48] Rizky : a trade is always a buy + sell... that's just whether it's ticked up down or unch from last trade
[2016-09-26 20:58:52] RocketScience : I see
[2016-09-26 21:04:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.015082
[2016-09-26 21:51:04] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: thx for answer, on the other hand whats going on with jpybtc MM?
[2016-09-26 21:51:18] BitMEX_Sam : Not sure. Let me ping them.
[2016-09-26 23:02:15] BitMEX_Sam : Appears they're back in.
[2016-09-26 23:02:37] omicron : what happened? i see bid/ask at 3000 qty on xbj
[2016-09-26 23:03:31] BitMEX_Sam : The lead MM was out of the market for a while so it was just a bit thin.
[2016-09-26 23:39:28] mjones : liquidity sucks on xbt. someone closes short and jacks up price
[2016-09-27 00:34:15] rapidtrades : 26 mins from the greatest debate of the century
[2016-09-27 00:34:24] rapidtrades : get ur popcorn gentlemen
[2016-09-27 00:42:18] MrRGnome : I'm with you rapid, though I'm more about the drinking during a debate than the popcorn
[2016-09-27 01:11:35] rapidtrades : booooring
[2016-09-27 01:18:31] MrRGnome : give it some time, eventual trump will through a tantrum and clinton will get indignant.
[2016-09-27 01:19:34] MrRGnome : looks like the alcohol is already getting to me. *eventually trump will throw a tantrum
[2016-09-27 01:22:39] rapidtrades : oh NOW it's getting interesting :)
[2016-09-27 01:22:46] MrRGnome : Yeah trump is getting punchy
[2016-09-27 01:22:48] rapidtrades : pleasantries are out of the way
[2016-09-27 01:23:01] MrRGnome : Clinton is o the verge of losing her patience.
[2016-09-27 01:25:49] MrRGnome : I really wish Bernie was on the stage.
[2016-09-27 01:26:34] MrRGnome : Or at least the moderator would crucify them both. Anyone to hold these two schmucks responsible for the words that come out of their mouth.
[2016-09-27 01:54:02] rapidtrades : ridiculous risk-on rally right now...lot of dumb dumbs in this market
[2016-09-27 02:21:59] rapidtrades : Peso rallying hard on this debate
[2016-09-27 02:39:08] rapidtrades : well that was a disappointing debate
[2016-09-27 02:46:39] laisee : no fisticuffs?
[2016-09-27 02:51:14] rapidtrades : oh look debate over and risk-on moves start to reverse
[2016-09-27 02:51:27] rapidtrades : man markets weren't this dumb when i first started 10 years ago
[2016-09-27 02:51:36] rapidtrades : guess this is what 8 years of QE does
[2016-09-27 02:51:46] rapidtrades : too many ppl made easy money
[2016-09-27 02:58:41] laisee : rapidtrades: maybe there is only one trade with QE ongoing.
[2016-09-27 03:00:01] rapidtrades : too late to get onboard that train
[2016-09-27 03:59:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 50 @ 0.08568
[2016-09-27 04:00:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 10 @ 0.07341