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[2016-09-04 14:48:22] Boontjie : but you pay fees for margin elsewhere :)
[2016-09-04 14:48:50] Boontjie : So you must pray its lower and that there is liquidity when you exit
[2016-09-04 14:48:57] sleger : yeah and 3 days later the MM decides to manipulate the other way cause his position has changed ...
[2016-09-04 14:49:14] sleger : I just want to be long and pay the true funding rate, I can do that at polo
[2016-09-04 14:49:27] sleger : only 3k more eth to close
[2016-09-04 14:49:41] Boontjie : sleger: I understand, I have been abusing the funding rate
[2016-09-04 14:49:50] Boontjie : Thank you for paying me ;)
[2016-09-04 14:50:23] sleger : I made 60btc of profit on that position, so thanks for losing them
[2016-09-04 14:50:39] Boontjie : sleger: I shorted at 0.021
[2016-09-04 14:50:54] Boontjie : Got profits and funding
[2016-09-04 14:53:36] Boontjie : sleger: It looks like longing will make you money now though. So you will get all that funding back
[2016-09-04 15:09:19] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: will the 0.25% tolerance apply to all instruments or only ethxbt?
[2016-09-04 15:14:28] HackedOnBFX : hi, why does it say my realized PNL is 4 XBT but I havent closed any of my position?
[2016-09-04 15:25:07] BitMEX_Wally : HackedOnBFX: Realised PNL is cumulative for perpetual swaps
[2016-09-04 15:26:56] BitMEX_Wally : lockhedge: Plan is all instruments
[2016-09-04 15:34:12] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: don't think it's a good idea for xbtusd as long as bitfinex swaps are used to calculate the underlying interest rate
[2016-09-04 15:39:51] zanza : sleger the funding is 0 sum
[2016-09-04 15:40:09] sleger : zanza: duh
[2016-09-04 15:40:49] zanza : seems like people who complain about the funding rates don't really understand how it works
[2016-09-04 15:41:33] HackedOnBFX : zanza: +1
[2016-09-04 15:41:50] zanza : but you can't have 50x leverage future, that trades at spot without funding rate
[2016-09-04 15:44:56] daveberns1 : what happened to the BTC / CNY? also wasnt there an a shares index at one point??
[2016-09-04 15:45:36] justinlooking : don't recall cny here, u mean xbj/yen?
[2016-09-04 15:48:20] rapidtrades : is monero donero?
[2016-09-04 15:49:01] rapidtrades : i had such high hopes for that coin
[2016-09-04 15:49:25] HackedOnBFX : rapidtrades: for now
[2016-09-04 15:50:31] rapidtrades : i don't short moon coins but if it falls below 18 again, it wouldn't be the worst trade in history
[2016-09-04 15:51:41] HackedOnBFX : rapidtrades: i aint touching it with a 10 ft pole
[2016-09-04 15:52:03] zanza : i hope not, i invested a lot into it rapidtrades
[2016-09-04 15:53:03] rapidtrades : zanza lies a lot
[2016-09-04 15:54:09] rapidtrades : is this like the time u sent 50k to buttfinex 2 days after the hack
[2016-09-04 15:54:50] HackedOnBFX : hahaa
[2016-09-04 16:11:01] HackedOnBFX : XBT perp swap getting action
[2016-09-04 16:17:59] rapidtrades : im still callimg BS on this rally
[2016-09-04 16:21:29] HackedOnBFX : and why is that
[2016-09-04 16:21:43] zanza : lol
[2016-09-04 16:22:16] zanza : yeah, it seems like someone artifically wanted to spik the price up
[2016-09-04 16:22:46] HackedOnBFX : actually i think its the opposite
[2016-09-04 16:22:51] HackedOnBFX : someone shorting bfore the BFX incident
[2016-09-04 16:23:06] HackedOnBFX : now headed back to where we were
[2016-09-04 16:23:42] rapidtrades : yeah u all think that
[2016-09-04 16:23:53] rapidtrades : that's why we'll be back below 600 in no time
[2016-09-04 16:23:57] HackedOnBFX : we all?
[2016-09-04 16:24:00] HackedOnBFX : you mean me ?
[2016-09-04 16:24:01] HackedOnBFX : lol
[2016-09-04 16:24:05] rapidtrades : this stupid chat
[2016-09-04 16:24:20] habibi : and the rapidtrades on top of that "stupid chat" hill
[2016-09-04 16:24:39] HackedOnBFX : habibi: well he's got a short to protect
[2016-09-04 16:24:52] rapidtrades : it's easy to be on top when everyone's an idiot
[2016-09-04 16:25:19] HackedOnBFX : well im long a few million
[2016-09-04 16:25:29] habibi : HackedOnBFX: guess u right, or just typical stupidity he shows everyday
[2016-09-04 16:25:56] HackedOnBFX : habibi: im not around here to know but i just assume most everyone is trolling
[2016-09-04 16:26:59] HackedOnBFX : rapidtrades: hey bro, dont get margin called when this baby goes moonbound
[2016-09-04 16:27:58] rapidtrades : i was never short dummy
[2016-09-04 16:28:07] rapidtrades : finex closed my short at 604
[2016-09-04 16:28:27] HackedOnBFX : lol
[2016-09-04 16:28:30] habibi : :D
[2016-09-04 16:28:35] HackedOnBFX : "stupid chat" "everyones an idiot" "dummy"
[2016-09-04 16:28:42] HackedOnBFX : u mad bro?
[2016-09-04 16:29:12] rapidtrades : not really groupthink annoys me
[2016-09-04 16:30:13] habibi : rapidtrades: u really think u are special, i guess its another cognitive bias u learned about
[2016-09-04 16:30:30] HackedOnBFX : rapidtrades: welcome to crypto
[2016-09-04 16:30:35] rapidtrades : it is actually @habibi
[2016-09-04 16:32:17] rapidtrades : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwagon_effect
[2016-09-04 16:36:32] HackedOnBFX : rapidtrades: so I should vote Trump is what you're saying?
[2016-09-04 16:38:11] MrRGnome : Jesus rapid I am rarely in here, but universally when I am you are having trouble playing nice with the other children. You have some kind of personality problem or something?
[2016-09-04 16:38:29] Kalman : HackedOnBFX: vote johnsonweld ;)
[2016-09-04 16:38:33] HackedOnBFX : MrRGnome: lol
[2016-09-04 16:38:46] HackedOnBFX : Kalman: idk wtf that is
[2016-09-04 16:39:06] HackedOnBFX : MrRGnome: trolls not here to make friends
[2016-09-04 16:39:27] MrRGnome : Nah I don't think rapid os trolling, he does sometimes
[2016-09-04 16:39:28] rapidtrades : MrRGnome: yeah my problem is that I DON'T LIKE YOU
[2016-09-04 16:39:46] HackedOnBFX : rapid
[2016-09-04 16:39:46] HackedOnBFX : i love you
[2016-09-04 16:39:51] HackedOnBFX : dont you ever forget it
[2016-09-04 16:39:56] Kalman : HackedOnBFX: www.johnsonweld.com
[2016-09-04 16:40:06] MrRGnome : Yeah rapid feel the love. Let it sooth your angsty soul
[2016-09-04 16:40:46] justinlooking : rapid's playbook: https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
[2016-09-04 16:42:08] MrRGnome : You guys give rapid too much credit. There is no playbook. He just reacts defensively to everything that could be percieved critical
[2016-09-04 16:42:21] HackedOnBFX : Kalman: oh gary johnson
[2016-09-04 16:42:29] HackedOnBFX : hes ok
[2016-09-04 16:45:14] HackedOnBFX : justinlooking: @MrRGnome @Kalman whats the consensus? u buying this rally?
[2016-09-04 16:46:44] MrRGnome : I'm already in at $570, just looking for my chance to get of the train. I find it more profitable and less risky to ride down because it happens much faster
[2016-09-04 16:49:02] Kalman : HackedOnBFX: more printing in the FED pipeline; whatever a "safe bet" is this is close to it ;)
[2016-09-04 16:49:27] justinlooking : HackedOnBFX: not sure, am focused on xmr on polo
[2016-09-04 16:50:00] HackedOnBFX : Kalman: who said that? i dont think theyre doing more qe
[2016-09-04 16:50:33] HackedOnBFX : justinlooking: nice, i was too but when i saw that BTC pop, I came right over here
[2016-09-04 16:52:46] Kalman : HackedOnBFX: to each his own ;)
[2016-09-04 16:55:16] HackedOnBFX : Kalman: theyre going to do something
[2016-09-04 17:00:39] HackedOnBFX : Kalman: they have more tools than QE though. Also dont be surprised to see us turn into japan.
[2016-09-04 17:02:56] sleger : HackedOnBFX: "us" ?
[2016-09-04 17:02:57] HackedOnBFX : bro whoever sent that gentlemans guide to forum spies
[2016-09-04 17:03:00] HackedOnBFX : thats a mindfuck
[2016-09-04 17:03:17] HackedOnBFX : mind-f-u-c-k
[2016-09-04 17:03:27] HackedOnBFX : sleger: usa, sry
[2016-09-04 17:03:42] Kalman : HackedOnBFX: fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?graph_id=311390&category_id=
[2016-09-04 17:03:44] HackedOnBFX : sleger: as soon as i said that i realized im on the internet
[2016-09-04 17:04:55] HackedOnBFX : Kalman: whats that supposed to imply?
[2016-09-04 17:39:10] Roevenger : BTC reached all time low on some indicators, volume is around all time high in the last few months, it makes no sense to sell lol
[2016-09-04 17:41:06] Roevenger : altcoins though...they need fundamentals to rise, MAID/DASH/FCT/XMR all had theirs scam pumps, they will go down for sure
[2016-09-04 17:42:56] HackedOnBFX : Roevenger: agreed, people forget about the king when alts are hot
[2016-09-04 19:42:58] augusto2012 : I wonder why they call it the TROLL BOX?
[2016-09-04 19:44:40] BitMEX_Greg : augusto2012: You will find out soon enough
[2016-09-04 19:50:52] mjones : btc dump
[2016-09-04 19:52:47] HackedOnBFX : mjones: this is nothin
[2016-09-04 19:53:12] HackedOnBFX : not even down 1%
[2016-09-04 19:53:44] MrRGnome : people here shorting for quick settlement interest
[2016-09-04 19:54:14] mjones : btc bouncing off support
[2016-09-04 19:55:03] HackedOnBFX : yeah im a buyer here boys
[2016-09-04 19:55:08] HackedOnBFX : highest price since buttfinex
[2016-09-04 19:57:11] HackedOnBFX : and were holding these gains nicely
[2016-09-04 19:57:50] MrRGnome : too expensive to leverage long now, just going to sit in btc and leverage the inevitable correction.
[2016-09-04 19:58:24] HackedOnBFX : MrRGnome: come on bro, you know it's not inevitable, crypto sometimes moves fast and doesnt look back
[2016-09-04 19:58:52] HackedOnBFX : I kept saying to myself I would wait for an XMR correction
[2016-09-04 19:59:14] MrRGnome : It's absolutely inevitable. Even in a sustained uptrend there will be so many bear traps with temporary corrections of up to 33% of the rise
[2016-09-04 19:59:32] MrRGnome : Monero is a good example, great bear trap fro 25k back down to 19
[2016-09-04 19:59:48] MrRGnome : good for making some nice money after the first 3 waves up
[2016-09-04 19:59:55] Tetsuo : It hasn´t proven to be a bear trap yet.
[2016-09-04 20:00:14] MrRGnome : It's not falling nearly as hard as I would like to short it
[2016-09-04 20:00:56] Tetsuo : altcoin pump and dumps often die slowly
[2016-09-04 20:01:36] MrRGnome : dumps be definition aren't slow. The death might be, but that's not what I'm shorting against.
[2016-09-04 20:01:54] MrRGnome : Always going to be phases of profit taking or dumping after several waves of significant rising.
[2016-09-04 20:07:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2500 @ 606.54
[2016-09-04 20:10:48] HackedOnBFX : damn
[2016-09-04 20:21:27] mjones : FCT on the move
[2016-09-04 20:22:03] mjones : 0.0033 to 0.0048 on here. it is hella dead on bitmex though
[2016-09-04 20:22:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCTXBT`: Buy 2 @ 0.004813 :punch: :whale:
[2016-09-04 20:29:49] rapidtrades : G20: China and US agree to refrain from competitive currency devaluations
[2016-09-04 20:30:00] rapidtrades : suck on them applez newbs
[2016-09-04 20:31:35] HackedOnBFX : yeah ! suck on em!
[2016-09-04 20:33:22] HackedOnBFX : This run is going to be epic
[2016-09-04 20:34:14] rapidtrades : HackedOnBFX: ddo u hear that sound?
[2016-09-04 20:35:51] HackedOnBFX : rapidtrades:i hear lots of sounds
[2016-09-04 21:28:43] Boontjie : rapidtrades: the news has arrived
[2016-09-04 21:44:35] rapidtrades : Boontjie: what news
[2016-09-04 21:58:29] HackedOnBFX : BTC so boring
[2016-09-04 21:58:38] HackedOnBFX : make a move!!!1
[2016-09-04 22:05:36] rapidtrades : news coming on monday
[2016-09-04 22:09:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 18 @ 0.020606
[2016-09-04 22:09:28] rapidtrades : no xmr, bad xmr!
[2016-09-04 22:13:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 30 @ 0.021418
[2016-09-04 22:13:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 2266 @ 0.021490
[2016-09-04 22:17:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 1051 @ 0.021842
[2016-09-04 22:18:17] MrRGnome : Called that xmr bear trap
[2016-09-04 22:23:20] HackedOnBFX : ooo xmr to the rescue
[2016-09-04 22:24:06] rapidtrades : screw u xmr
[2016-09-04 22:34:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCTXBT`: Sell 300 @ 0.004543
[2016-09-04 22:35:31] zanza : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-04/bitcoin-surges-almost-10-heavy-china-buying-amid-g-20-chatter
[2016-09-04 23:25:49] HackedOnBFX : ascending triangle
[2016-09-04 23:25:55] HackedOnBFX : we're going moonbound shortly
[2016-09-04 23:26:25] mjones : someone was like om nom nom give me 750 btc worth of XMR
[2016-09-04 23:26:51] HackedOnBFX : mjones: XMR is something else man
[2016-09-04 23:27:00] HackedOnBFX : havent seen anything like that since the ETH mega pump earlier this year
[2016-09-04 23:27:25] mjones : reminds me of ETH. like what are people doing. then it hits over billion dollar market cap. XMR could have a ways to go if they are trying to make a statement that XMR is the anon coin
[2016-09-04 23:28:43] mjones : BTC close to making new highs too
[2016-09-04 23:30:09] mjones : bitfinex back up to around 11,000 BTC longed.
[2016-09-04 23:33:02] HackedOnBFX : mjones: yeah boi
[2016-09-04 23:33:06] HackedOnBFX : im ready for moontime
[2016-09-04 23:33:34] HackedOnBFX : btc pumps are fun since we can go 50x here XD
[2016-09-04 23:38:07] mjones : yeah. 2% move to double our money.
[2016-09-04 23:38:24] mjones : if my math is correct
[2016-09-04 23:39:20] miramm1115 : 2% move and you lose all your money ;-)
[2016-09-04 23:39:57] mjones : that's why you get in low, close like 25% of your position and use that to add to your long and keep the liquidation price low
[2016-09-04 23:44:16] CaptainDean : missed taht huge spike on xmr
[2016-09-04 23:44:29] mjones : me 2. was eating dinner
[2016-09-04 23:44:34] CaptainDean : damm it wasn't looking so good then boooon
[2016-09-04 23:44:51] CaptainDean : quite a nice run !
[2016-09-04 23:44:56] mjones : next week new 0kcoin quarterly starts on friday. will be interesting to see how high it opens / goes to
[2016-09-04 23:45:48] CaptainDean : my friend spoke to me about that coin.
[2016-09-04 23:48:21] CaptainDean : What's tour tough ob XMR ? I don't think we arr going back over 26 with btc going up, last spike tend to prove me wront tho :P
[2016-09-04 23:50:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 248 @ 0.021446
[2016-09-04 23:52:26] CaptainDean : I took a small long on XMR (poliniex) after a gain yesturday, a medium fake wall (300-500-1000 BTC) controlled the price (stopping uptrend under 20) for like 4 hours. I bailed out, Bad me, i was influenced at the end.
[2016-09-05 00:05:20] HackedOnBFX : CaptainDean: walls can go up and down, just because theyre there doesnt mean theyll be there in a half second
[2016-09-05 00:06:30] rapidtrades : yep we're not going everywhere
[2016-09-05 00:06:38] rapidtrades : should crash back down soon enough
[2016-09-05 00:07:30] HackedOnBFX : rapidtrades: xmr?
[2016-09-05 00:07:37] HackedOnBFX : god knows at this point
[2016-09-05 00:07:39] rapidtrades : BTC
[2016-09-05 00:07:49] HackedOnBFX : BTC going up bro be careful
[2016-09-05 00:07:49] rapidtrades : im neutral on xmr
[2016-09-05 00:08:01] rapidtrades : HackedOnBFX: how is it 'going up'
[2016-09-05 00:08:18] rapidtrades : its up 1% in last 24 hrs
[2016-09-05 00:08:40] HackedOnBFX : it's up over 5%
[2016-09-05 00:08:40] CaptainDean : we broke the 600 ! :D
[2016-09-05 00:09:07] CaptainDean : "But it doesn't matter !" - The Rock
[2016-09-05 00:09:30] HackedOnBFX : And hasn't pulled back much at all
[2016-09-05 00:11:46] CaptainDean : XMR is quite fun this week
[2016-09-05 01:32:44] mjones : all right here we go FCT
[2016-09-05 01:44:43] mjones : #6 most traded coin last 30 days
[2016-09-05 02:17:31] mjones : btc MACD breaking down on the 2 hour chart
[2016-09-05 02:17:44] mjones : close the longs. open the shorts
[2016-09-05 02:49:41] HackedOnBFX : mjones: jump ship boys!
[2016-09-05 02:49:49] HackedOnBFX : Everyone back in to BTC!
[2016-09-05 02:49:59] HackedOnBFX : Don't forget about the king :D
[2016-09-05 04:08:34] d00ber : MACD looking good on 3d chart
[2016-09-05 04:17:20] laisee : what's this weeks PUMP?
[2016-09-05 04:44:42] HackedOnBFX : laisee: btc
[2016-09-05 08:06:17] mjmj83 : Can anyone tell me how the index of the Daily XBJ future is calculated?
[2016-09-05 08:07:11] BitMEX_Wally : mjmj83: It is the last traded price of Bitcoin vs JPY on Quoine
[2016-09-05 08:08:29] mjmj83 : On Quoine I only see Bicoin vs JPY future, the one that is exactly the same as here.
[2016-09-05 08:09:04] BitMEX_Wally : Quoine has a cash exchange too
[2016-09-05 08:09:16] mjmj83 : But only with EUR/USD, right?
[2016-09-05 08:09:21] mjmj83 : Euro and Usd
[2016-09-05 08:09:41] BitMEX_Wally : And Bitcoin vs JPY
[2016-09-05 08:09:51] mjmj83 : Can you post a link?
[2016-09-05 08:10:05] BitMEX_Wally : https://cryptowat.ch/quoine/btcjpy/1h
[2016-09-05 08:11:03] mjmj83 : Maybe I'm crazy, but I can't find that one on the actual website of Quoine. What a mess is Quoine btw. Can't believe there are millions pumped in there.
[2016-09-05 08:11:22] BitMEX_Wally : I don't have a login for Quoine so I'm not sure
[2016-09-05 08:11:45] BitMEX_Wally : Their API is here: https://api.quoine.com/products/code/CASH/BTCJPY
[2016-09-05 08:13:15] mjmj83 : I have a login and I really don't see the JPY-trading anywhere. I do see the future, but no spot trading in JPY.
[2016-09-05 08:19:39] mjmj83 : At Quoine you need to change to the BETA-view and then you can add different currencies.
[2016-09-05 08:26:48] BitMEX_Wally : Bitcoin/JPY makes up 66% of Quione's trading volume. I'm surprised they make it so hard to find
[2016-09-05 08:37:13] mjmj83 : Yes, well. But they surprise me one more things. Website looks like sh*t, is not userfriendly, characters are small.. what the heck are they doing with the $20,000,000 investment they received?
[2016-09-05 08:43:08] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.quoine.com/app/#/app/market/advanced?account=JPY&leverage_level_type=spot
[2016-09-05 08:43:15] BitMEX_Arthur : It's available under classic view
[2016-09-05 08:49:29] mjmj83 : Yes, after you have activated it. I just got an email from their support: "Apologies for the confusion. If JPY has not been included in your original list of trading currencies, it needs to be add (i.e. "open a JPY account") before you can start trading with it. And yes, "Add Account" is the way to add JPY to the list. Once added, you can select JPY in both Beta dashboard and Classic dashboard to access the BTCJPY interface. "
[2016-09-05 08:51:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1005 @ 604.78
[2016-09-05 08:51:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 400 @ 604.73
[2016-09-05 08:53:43] Airmike : hey guys
[2016-09-05 08:56:12] Airmike : 4264 XBT . is that volume right ?
[2016-09-05 08:56:22] Airmike : past 24 hours ?
[2016-09-05 08:57:05] BitMEX_Wally : Airmike: Yes that's correct, for XBTUSD
[2016-09-05 08:57:43] Airmike : BitMEX_Wally: nice congratulation
[2016-09-05 08:57:47] BitMEX_Wally : Airmike: You can see a comparison of Bitcoin vs USD exchanges here: https://exchangewar.info/coinprice?BTC_USD
[2016-09-05 09:00:21] Airmike : exchangewar has wrong info about your commissions
[2016-09-05 09:00:56] BitMEX_Wally : Ahh yes, let me email him
[2016-09-05 09:02:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 159 @ 0.020895
[2016-09-05 09:12:34] Airmike : they have also many nonsense mistakes at volume :D
[2016-09-05 09:13:06] Airmike : poloniex 67,875.22 BTC :D :D :D
[2016-09-05 09:14:38] BitMEX_Wally : Yep, that's all Monero: https://exchangewar.info/coinprice?XMR_BTC
[2016-09-05 09:46:59] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 15000 @ 603.04
[2016-09-05 09:46:59] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 20 @ 603.34
[2016-09-05 09:46:59] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 67 @ 603.79
[2016-09-05 09:46:59] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4000 @ 603.24
[2016-09-05 09:47:08] REKT : :btc: :soon: :toilet:
[2016-09-05 09:47:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2100 @ 602.42
[2016-09-05 09:52:05] herpinator : does anyone else get unresponsive js error messages whenever a large amount of orders get filled?
[2016-09-05 10:34:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4000 @ 601.78
[2016-09-05 10:47:27] subjective : ETH Bbands tighter than nuns bottom hole.. Break soon :)
[2016-09-05 11:07:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 400 @ 601.34
[2016-09-05 11:24:00] Boontjie : subjective: Sound like fun nuns
[2016-09-05 12:18:15] luckynuke : @bitmex_wally i opened a long at 607.58, why do i have a positive unr. PNL ?
[2016-09-05 12:22:13] aaa : is it not the pnl since last rebalance?
[2016-09-05 12:23:02] aaa : i mean that pnl could have been moved from unr, to realised
[2016-09-05 12:34:24] luckynuke : idk
[2016-09-05 12:42:17] aaa : you can have a look at your realised pnl
[2016-09-05 12:42:30] aaa : dont have to guess like i do
[2016-09-05 12:43:43] luckynuke : it seems the same like yesterday
[2016-09-05 13:07:31] BitMEX_Wally : luckynuke: Let me have a look for you
[2016-09-05 13:09:12] BitMEX_Wally : luckynuke: XBTUSD rebalanced an hour ago at 600.36 so the unrealisedPNL you see is from 600.36 to the current mark price of 602.57
[2016-09-05 13:09:53] BitMEX_Wally : The PNL from your entry price to 607.58 to the rebalance price of 600.36 has already gone in/out of your wallet with the CashRebalance transaction
[2016-09-05 13:10:37] luckynuke : thx wally
[2016-09-05 13:10:45] BitMEX_Wally : You can see the CashRebalance transactions here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet
[2016-09-05 13:10:58] BitMEX_Wally : (the pending one includes your current unrealised profit)
[2016-09-05 13:13:09] luckynuke : but how i can make profit, if i pay lending fees and dont realize my trade ? i dont get it atm, need help
[2016-09-05 13:13:37] luckynuke : and why are you realize that ? the trade isn´t finished
[2016-09-05 13:13:47] luckynuke : *do
[2016-09-05 13:21:28] BitMEX_Wally : Moving PNL from unrealised to realised does not change your total PNL
[2016-09-05 13:22:24] BitMEX_Wally : The reason we do the rebalance is so that DPE only affects profits made during the rebalance session in which the system loss occurred
[2016-09-05 13:23:13] tb : wally: i understand what you guys are doing, but its a bit confusing
[2016-09-05 13:23:22] tb : Especially when you close a position and then a month later open another
[2016-09-05 13:23:22] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, we are going to get rid of DPE and rebalancing
[2016-09-05 13:23:43] tb : and you see the realized pnl of your last trades already
[2016-09-05 13:23:55] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, we will reset this to 0 when you close a position
[2016-09-05 13:24:07] tb : yeah, that would be good imo
[2016-09-05 13:24:39] tb : how will you get rid of dpe?
[2016-09-05 13:26:52] BitMEX_Wally : We will move to a de-leveraging system whereby in the event of a system loss we close out winning positions in profit
[2016-09-05 13:27:14] tb : i don't like that at all tbh
[2016-09-05 13:27:26] BitMEX_Wally : Positions with the most profit and the most leverage will be first in line for deleveraging
[2016-09-05 13:27:32] BitMEX_Wally : So those who don't like it can use lower leverage
[2016-09-05 13:27:52] tb : hmm
[2016-09-05 13:28:07] tb : i guess that's ok
[2016-09-05 13:29:34] tb : you guys have good concepts
[2016-09-05 13:30:11] tb : i just wish you guys had opening auctions or roll products for the non perpetual contracts
[2016-09-05 13:30:58] tb : it's hard to trade into some of the ones that are more illiquid because you know you'll need to pay the spread again week after week
[2016-09-05 13:38:38] BitMEX_Wally : If Poloniex open a lending market for ETC then we can upgrade ETC7D the future to ETCXBT the swap
[2016-09-05 13:39:25] BitMEX_Wally : Same for XMR if people keep trading it
[2016-09-05 15:20:25] yerb : BitMEX_Wally: why dont u guys make altmex site e just for altcoins
[2016-09-05 15:22:20] Rado : How is ETCXBT better than ETC7D for traders?
[2016-09-05 15:22:39] Rado : I personally like 7D better
[2016-09-05 15:24:57] yerb : Rado: if its possible i would have sasme market but declare a position perpetual or weekly
[2016-09-05 15:25:31] yerb : but tht is probably impossible
[2016-09-05 15:47:29] Rado : yerb: I don't think it's imposibble
[2016-09-05 17:43:48] CaptainDean : The wall bitch is back @ Poloniex :P famous 1111 BTC wall !
[2016-09-05 17:48:59] mjones : which coin
[2016-09-05 18:24:20] CaptainDean : XMR
[2016-09-05 18:24:24] mjones : zcash beta launch in 2 days
[2016-09-05 18:28:17] mjones : testnet though. friday October 28, 2016 for the real launch
[2016-09-05 19:28:08] luckynuke : xmr fallin down, 30min. remaining https://www.tradingview.com/chart/XMRBTC/8k5FPWjr-XMR-BTC/
[2016-09-05 20:15:51] Panoukla : Due to rebalance of my trade the entry price changed, though the new entry price is not on the position board
[2016-09-05 20:56:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 18 @ 0.022342
[2016-09-05 20:57:05] mjones : xmr breaking up instead
[2016-09-05 21:18:47] Bitspender : Is support around?
[2016-09-05 21:19:25] Bitspender : my XMR short was liquidated at 0.023618 and it never traded at that price
[2016-09-05 21:19:40] Bitspender : wtf?
[2016-09-05 21:26:03] BitMEX_Greg : Bitspender: Hi how can I help
[2016-09-05 21:26:20] BitMEX_Greg : The price you see in your Trade History is the Bankruptcy Price
[2016-09-05 21:26:58] Bitspender : what do you mean bankruptcy price?
[2016-09-05 21:26:58] BitMEX_Greg : The Maintenance Margin on XMR is 5%, so you need to add that back to the bankruptcy price to get your liquidated price.
[2016-09-05 21:27:14] BitMEX_Greg : The bankruptcy price is where your margin = 0%
[2016-09-05 21:27:22] BitMEX_Greg : You should have received an email that explains all this, please check
[2016-09-05 21:27:32] Bitspender : sounds like some BS
[2016-09-05 21:27:45] Bitspender : stealing funds
[2016-09-05 21:28:04] BitMEX_Greg : We don't steal funds. Take a read of the liquidation email and then come back to me if you have further questions
[2016-09-05 21:35:44] mjones : XMR downtrend almost broken. 0.03 incoming
[2016-09-05 21:49:24] Tetsuo : Denied
[2016-09-05 21:49:29] Tetsuo : BTC up; XMR down!
[2016-09-05 21:49:56] Tetsuo : BTC just broke resistance, while XMR just popped it´s head against it
[2016-09-05 21:52:15] Tetsuo : Bitspender: Thanx for ur moneeeez
[2016-09-05 22:10:29] Panoukla : BitMEX_Greg: my position was rebalanced and i have a new entry price but it doesn't show on the position panel
[2016-09-05 22:25:51] rapidtrades : bitcoin going nowhere
[2016-09-05 22:26:01] rapidtrades : soon it will go southware
[2016-09-05 22:27:55] MrRGnome : So are you short rapid? Or just running your mouth
[2016-09-05 22:28:26] rapidtrades : MrRGnome: doesn't matter
[2016-09-05 22:28:38] MrRGnome : So "just running my mouth"
[2016-09-05 22:28:41] rapidtrades : i don't bet my opinions
[2016-09-05 22:29:27] rapidtrades : Gartman: 'All but impossible' for Fed to raise rates
[2016-09-05 22:29:37] rapidtrades : higher rates coming boys!
[2016-09-05 22:30:11] wotan : fed wont raise anything if they do they want the crash
[2016-09-05 22:30:19] wotan : its just bla bla in my opinion
[2016-09-05 22:30:20] rapidtrades : what will that do to ur precious BTC
[2016-09-05 22:31:00] Tetsuo : 1000$ and beyond!
[2016-09-05 22:31:05] MrRGnome : 'precious'? You getting all lord of the rings about your crypto rapid?
[2016-09-05 22:31:29] rapidtrades : wotan: show me the evidence that higher rates leads to crashes
[2016-09-05 22:32:08] wotan : our money system is like a drug addicted to low rates we even have negative rates
[2016-09-05 22:32:24] wotan : the banks soon shoot up all their power since 2008
[2016-09-05 22:32:37] wotan : it will end in an brutaaal big crash
[2016-09-05 22:33:06] wotan : in the end it doesnt matter if it will happen with bigger rates from fed or not
[2016-09-05 22:33:35] rapidtrades : right so u have no evidence
[2016-09-05 22:34:14] rapidtrades : im more bullish on the sp500 then i am on bitcorn
[2016-09-05 22:34:36] wotan : your right i cant give you an evidence there are different opinions to this topic
[2016-09-05 22:34:57] MrRGnome : 'the banks soon shoot up all their power since 2008 it will end in a brutaaal big crash in the end it doesn't matter...' - wotan
[2016-09-05 22:35:05] MrRGnome : What sage economic insight
[2016-09-05 22:35:05] wotan : but whats for sure that our economic our money system is in big danger
[2016-09-05 22:35:09] rapidtrades : like i said, i don't bet on opinions @wotan
[2016-09-05 22:35:44] rapidtrades : yeah ppl have been saying that for the past 8 years
[2016-09-05 22:35:57] wotan : good betting on stocks and the sp500 its just a game and it could be hard to leave once it start to fall
[2016-09-05 22:36:18] wotan : rapidtrades we are in crash modus since 8 years dude look at the world
[2016-09-05 22:36:28] rapidtrades : world is fine dude
[2016-09-05 22:36:31] MrRGnome : wotan you're insane
[2016-09-05 22:36:47] MrRGnome : That's while chatting in a room with rapidtrades so it really takes a lot to reach such a high bar
[2016-09-05 22:37:47] wotan : rapidtrades if you call this fine then you should think of your definiotion of fine
[2016-09-05 22:38:06] rapidtrades : it's fine....slow growth is still growth
[2016-09-05 22:38:22] wotan : haha you call growth as an indicator for fine or not
[2016-09-05 22:38:24] MrRGnome : wotan if you call an enormous economic recovery by every metric 'crash modus' you just don't know basic numbers.
[2016-09-05 22:38:36] wotan : look where the wealth go to look at wars and conflicts at unemployment etc
[2016-09-05 22:39:03] wotan : MrRGnome 2008 was little to what im expecting to come soon
[2016-09-05 22:39:40] wotan : your telling me all is good and i tell no its not so i let you your opinion and i have mine lol
[2016-09-05 22:39:41] MrRGnome : You have so many ideas jumbled into one incoherent viewpoint. You need to sit down and organize your thoughts with referable facts and as separate ideas.
[2016-09-05 22:39:48] MrRGnome : As is you come off like an insane conspiracy theorist
[2016-09-05 22:39:57] MrRGnome : totally divorced from reality.
[2016-09-05 22:40:42] wotan : i give that to you you fall for conspirancys and you are far away from reality dude
[2016-09-05 22:41:03] wotan : all i say is based on facts
[2016-09-05 22:41:03] MrRGnome : Ah, the good ol' "I am rubber you are glue" defense.
[2016-09-05 22:41:10] rapidtrades : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-05/hillary-just-had-one-worst-coughing-fits-ever-msnbc-cuts-away
[2016-09-05 22:41:10] MrRGnome : Sure, reference them
[2016-09-05 22:41:19] wotan : you seem to be not enough informed
[2016-09-05 22:41:27] wotan : what you want to know dude
[2016-09-05 22:41:31] rapidtrades : hillary dying would be the only way trump wins this election
[2016-09-05 22:41:34] MrRGnome : I'm very well informed. I even support many of the ideas you are trying to articulate
[2016-09-05 22:41:37] MrRGnome : but you're lieka child
[2016-09-05 22:41:38] MrRGnome : fumbling
[2016-09-05 22:41:54] wotan : 2000 people on the planet own same like haf of humanity you call that all good?
[2016-09-05 22:42:04] wotan : our money is not backed with anything anymore
[2016-09-05 22:42:05] MrRGnome : I call it agross generalization
[2016-09-05 22:42:15] MrRGnome : And trying to infer any conclusion from it is silly
[2016-09-05 22:42:15] wotan : banks even buy stock market shares they buy shares fromates etc st
[2016-09-05 22:42:26] wotan : you shoudl start to think whats money and where it come from
[2016-09-05 22:42:35] MrRGnome : 'banks even buy stock market shares' It's like somone explained to you how banks work yesterday
[2016-09-05 22:43:19] wotan : all banks are pumping money like crazy into the markets while rates are at historic low
[2016-09-05 22:43:30] MrRGnome : I'm well aware of where fiat comes from and what inflation is.
[2016-09-05 22:43:47] MrRGnome : Not that you could adequately explain it if I wasn't.
[2016-09-05 22:43:52] wotan : what we see right now is the biggest insolvency delay in history
[2016-09-05 22:44:02] MrRGnome : No, we don't.
[2016-09-05 22:44:04] wotan : so tell me where most fiat come from
[2016-09-05 22:44:32] wotan : try to hold it simple please
[2016-09-05 22:44:33] MrRGnome : All fiat comes from the same place, printed by public and private institutions.
[2016-09-05 22:44:37] sleger : italy
[2016-09-05 22:44:38] wotan : hahaha
[2016-09-05 22:44:41] wotan : dude
[2016-09-05 22:44:42] rapidtrades : I'll tell u smth...I'm not hating these rollover fees
[2016-09-05 22:45:05] wotan : most fiat is made from debt and you evben dont know that
[2016-09-05 22:45:06] rapidtrades : it pays to be short when every tool is bullish
[2016-09-05 22:45:10] wotan : so i wont talk an ymore sorry
[2016-09-05 22:45:18] MrRGnome : wotan you are so lost in your own terms
[2016-09-05 22:45:38] wotan : and you think most money comes from printing dudeeee
[2016-09-05 22:45:41] MrRGnome : You would really benefit from an introductory macroeconomics class, say from youtube
[2016-09-05 22:45:57] wotan : im laughing hard right now
[2016-09-05 22:46:03] wotan : man man man
[2016-09-05 22:46:08] MrRGnome : 'printing' is a term for the creation of fiat. It needn't be literally printed to be represented
[2016-09-05 22:46:14] MrRGnome : You'd know that if you knew anything about economics
[2016-09-05 22:46:22] wotan : money is made from debts dude
[2016-09-05 22:46:39] wotan : what you think why america has so many debt and who they own it
[2016-09-05 22:46:50] MrRGnome : You are such a shining example of everything wrong with armchair economists.
[2016-09-05 22:47:07] Panoukla : support please check my trades, rebalancing trade, why ? This left me with a much higher entry price
[2016-09-05 22:47:09] wotan : its ok i know what kind of person you are and what you think
[2016-09-05 22:47:18] wotan : maybe you even studied economics
[2016-09-05 22:47:26] wotan : those ppl are mostly the most misinformed
[2016-09-05 22:47:52] MrRGnome : Uh huh, of course we are. We're also all the same. All academic economists have one school of thought. Of course.
[2016-09-05 22:48:01] MrRGnome : You are SO well informed.
[2016-09-05 22:48:04] MrRGnome : /s
[2016-09-05 22:48:07] wotan : but its ok all is good the economic go great money is made from printing and we all love eahc other:)
[2016-09-05 22:48:27] Tetsuo : shut up ypu cunts and make me rich
[2016-09-05 22:48:38] MrRGnome : meow.
[2016-09-05 22:49:05] wotan : Tetsuo: check out nav its pumöing right now and anon release soon
[2016-09-05 22:49:12] rapidtrades : who else misses the quantos
[2016-09-05 22:49:18] wotan : could be ready for another rise on polo
[2016-09-05 22:49:21] rapidtrades : those were the days my friends $$$$$$$$$$$$$$
[2016-09-05 22:49:24] MrRGnome : rapidtrades ack
[2016-09-05 22:49:52] MrRGnome : I don't like dealing with this interest crap.
[2016-09-05 22:49:58] Tetsuo : wotan: i´m in since 3286
[2016-09-05 22:50:27] Tetsuo : 2016-08-29 00:43:56 Buy 0.00003286 39000.18932928
[2016-09-05 22:51:03] wotan : Tetsuo: good job im in since 37 too and will hold
[2016-09-05 22:51:42] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: u bought 39k of what?
[2016-09-05 22:51:53] Tetsuo : NAV
[2016-09-05 22:51:54] wotan : only thing is if btc rise much then even nav will go down lets see
[2016-09-05 22:52:10] rapidtrades : wtf is nav
[2016-09-05 22:52:19] Tetsuo : don´t know, but looked good
[2016-09-05 22:52:26] rapidtrades : cool
[2016-09-05 22:52:55] Tetsuo : I just look on colume and technicals when it comes about alts, i don´t care about fundamental scams
[2016-09-05 22:53:03] mjones : xmr bubble bull trap complete. might be the top here
[2016-09-05 22:54:02] Tetsuo : BTS might ght a nice pump in the next weeks too, just bought 3 BTC worth of it
[2016-09-05 22:55:11] Tetsuo : but most alts will prbably suffer , now that BTC is on it´s way to 1000$,
[2016-09-05 22:55:46] wotan : tetsuo agree bts is a nice thing i use it and like it
[2016-09-05 22:56:01] wotan : amp has its alpha release soon too
[2016-09-05 22:56:04] rapidtrades : btc not going anywhere until buttfinex goes under
[2016-09-05 22:56:09] Tetsuo : i used it since 2012 to buy Acid : - )
[2016-09-05 22:56:22] rapidtrades : acid...that explains a lot
[2016-09-05 22:56:33] Tetsuo : fuck u rapidtrades
[2016-09-05 22:57:33] mjones : nvm XMR breaking up
[2016-09-05 22:57:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 250 @ 0.022785
[2016-09-05 22:58:50] Tetsuo : ohoh, XMR just broke out too
[2016-09-05 22:59:39] luckynuke : nope, no breakout for xmmr
[2016-09-05 22:59:59] Tetsuo : well technically, it did just breakout
[2016-09-05 23:00:35] rapidtrades : not rly, the high is at 265
[2016-09-05 23:01:07] Tetsuo : reistance line from the ATh was broken
[2016-09-05 23:02:00] rapidtrades : $614.00 < spot the outlier
[2016-09-05 23:02:33] rapidtrades : We are currently preparing the pitch for publication on BnkToTheFuture and will have it up as soon as we can. The quicker it's up the better it is for everyone and as such we're trying to get everything ready asap. We appreciate everyone's patience.
[2016-09-05 23:02:40] luckynuke : take a look, noobards
[2016-09-05 23:02:41] luckynuke : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/XMRBTC/8k5FPWjr-XMR-BTC/
[2016-09-05 23:03:40] rapidtrades : how can they get away with this...they've been operating for 3 weeks now
[2016-09-05 23:03:53] wotan : rapidtrades: who is preparing for bnktothefuture?
[2016-09-05 23:04:23] rapidtrades : zane said that
[2016-09-05 23:04:38] wotan : and zane is who?
[2016-09-05 23:04:40] Tetsuo : lol, zane, my mate
[2016-09-05 23:05:13] wotan : im confused lol
[2016-09-05 23:05:13] luckynuke : wotan: official from finex
[2016-09-05 23:05:22] wotan : ah nice thanks
[2016-09-05 23:05:26] luckynuke : np#
[2016-09-05 23:05:38] rapidtrades : reddit spokesman for buttfinex
[2016-09-05 23:05:45] wotan : bnktothefuture is nice site
[2016-09-05 23:05:54] luckynuke : rapidtrades: you trade on finex ?
[2016-09-05 23:06:02] wotan : so finex want to get money there?
[2016-09-05 23:07:44] rapidtrades : finex wants a lot of things
[2016-09-05 23:08:06] wotan : wow nav biig dump
[2016-09-05 23:08:28] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: nice work stupid
[2016-09-05 23:09:02] Tetsuo : in @ 34 now @ 55 go suck some monkeys dick
[2016-09-05 23:09:27] rapidtrades : why a monkey?
[2016-09-05 23:09:34] Tetsuo : or trade BFX
[2016-09-05 23:09:45] wotan : i am out with profit for now
[2016-09-05 23:09:52] Tetsuo : coz monkeys are dirty and their dick probably stinks
[2016-09-05 23:10:05] Tetsuo : i lke them anyways
[2016-09-05 23:10:26] rapidtrades : i'll take ur word for it, u prolly know how they taste
[2016-09-05 23:10:51] Tetsuo : ur father told me
[2016-09-05 23:11:38] Tetsuo : well either BTC or XMR is a fakeout, i closed all positions anyway, too drunk to wake up by the alarm probalbly
[2016-09-05 23:43:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 1200 @ 0.022956
[2016-09-05 23:43:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 467 @ 0.023251
[2016-09-05 23:43:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 25 @ 0.023310
[2016-09-05 23:52:06] rapidtrades : god dam u XMR u whore
[2016-09-06 00:01:15] luckynuke : no you are a whore
[2016-09-06 00:01:25] luckynuke : you and xmr could be married
[2016-09-06 00:18:11] daveberns1 : US futures reopen yet? what are we seein?
[2016-09-06 00:18:50] daveberns1 : i see strong USD
[2016-09-06 00:18:52] daveberns1 : flat stocks
[2016-09-06 00:19:02] rapidtrades : futures were open on monday too
[2016-09-06 00:19:14] rapidtrades : up 0.4%
[2016-09-06 00:19:49] daveberns1 : what? really? i thought closed for holiday
[2016-09-06 00:20:22] rapidtrades : stocks yes....sp500 futures were open
[2016-09-06 00:22:58] daveberns1 : ahh ya, see it now
[2016-09-06 00:23:09] daveberns1 : welp on to tuesday
[2016-09-06 00:23:28] daveberns1 : lets go with the strong USD, weak stocks...
[2016-09-06 00:26:23] daveberns1 : meh, maybe not
[2016-09-06 01:12:15] zanza : should I go all in Monero ?
[2016-09-06 01:12:18] zanza : seems like it might be the future
[2016-09-06 01:34:55] mjones : it sure is looking that way.
[2016-09-06 01:35:42] mjones : the whales got behind it like they did with ETH. other anon coins dont stand a chance right now.
[2016-09-06 01:35:45] CaptainDean : XMR won't move until a Whale stop putting his 1000BTC wall. it scares ppl all the time even if it's fake
[2016-09-06 01:36:01] CaptainDean : on poloniex
[2016-09-06 01:36:09] mjones : it did just do a double top. the guy is probably trying to keep a lid on the price
[2016-09-06 01:36:27] CaptainDean : he manipulated the double top
[2016-09-06 01:36:36] CaptainDean : on purpose i'm sure
[2016-09-06 01:37:29] mjones : i should have gotten back in XMR. didnt realize it would recover so well
[2016-09-06 01:38:31] mjones : it should go sideways for a bit though. dont see the hurry to get in
[2016-09-06 01:45:54] CaptainDean : me neither
[2016-09-06 01:52:35] mjones : dash isn't going to. SDC at $11,000,000 is just a pump and dump. all the other smaller coins pump and dump. zcash wont have many coins for a while. XMR can only get better with GUI wallet and whatever else. don't see why they would stop until it hits a billion dollar market cap to make a point
[2016-09-06 01:53:17] mjones : i know some people say it may not be anonymous and by doing this and this but if they do this then it'll be better. so i guess it's worth the risk for these deep pockets
[2016-09-06 02:25:07] CaptainDean : XMR buy order is stacking up big time 7303 BTC
[2016-09-06 02:25:20] CaptainDean : it's going to explode
[2016-09-06 02:25:58] CaptainDean : it will probably go down a bit before tho
[2016-09-06 04:06:21] mjones : xmr will be like 0.025 soon