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[2016-08-18 15:27:33] BitMEX_Greg : billyboy402: It is to do with the rebalance. Essentially it is closing your position and then reopening at the rebalance price
[2016-08-18 15:28:16] billyboy402 : BitMEX_Greg: why does the end user need to see it then . it just overcomplate the trade history
[2016-08-18 15:29:09] Rado : billyboy402: you need to see the profit/loss after the rebalance
[2016-08-18 15:29:20] BitMEX_Greg : It is done on an averaging basis
[2016-08-18 15:29:53] BitMEX_Greg : billyboy402: So you are unable to manipulate it buy going long 1000 BTC in the last minute, for example
[2016-08-18 15:30:26] BitMEX_Greg : billyboy402: We want to provide as much information to the user as possible, including their rebalancing positions.
[2016-08-18 15:30:50] billyboy402 : soooo , if the price has been under for the last 7 hours , then some whale pump the price up . does it pay if the price it up above index , for the last 7 hours ...
[2016-08-18 15:31:20] BitMEX_Greg : billyboy402: It's an average, so really depends what the average would be during the last hour
[2016-08-18 15:32:22] billyboy402 : so it work out the avg the index has been for 8 hours , and work out the avg bi8tmex price for the last 8 hours ?
[2016-08-18 15:33:52] BitMEX_Greg : billyboy402: Yes its an 8 Hour TWAP: https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBTUSDPI8H
[2016-08-18 15:35:01] BitMEX_Greg : The concept can be a bit different if you are just used to trading Futures, but for some further information take a read of: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#funding
[2016-08-18 15:35:06] billyboy402 : like every thing else on ur site , it over complated with jargon , what is TWAP ? for the rest of the ppl like my self
[2016-08-18 15:35:42] BitMEX_Greg : https://www.google.com/#q=TWAP
[2016-08-18 15:35:57] BitMEX_Greg : `The Time-Weighted Average Price (TWAP) is defined as the average price of a security over the course of a specified period of time`
[2016-08-18 15:36:23] billyboy402 : oh great you send me a google link , that usefull as fuck , it shoudl be on ur website
[2016-08-18 15:36:37] 4lph4 : billyboy402: get lost mate
[2016-08-18 15:36:44] 4lph4 : billyboy402: do some research if you wanna trade crypto
[2016-08-18 15:36:55] 4lph4 : billyboy402: there is no point in being rude
[2016-08-18 15:38:21] billyboy402 : 4lph4: shhhh that calling the kettle black isnt it
[2016-08-18 15:38:40] BitMEX_Greg : billyboy402: It's a fairly common term in the trading world. I can point you to a good book that goes over basic introduction to derivatives if you like
[2016-08-18 15:39:02] billyboy402 : BitMEX_Greg: yea that information should be either hyper link or posted at the bottom
[2016-08-18 15:39:13] 4lph4 : billyboy402: I don't get what you are saying and I don't care anyway. people like you deserve to get 36% haircut so you'd better go on bitfinex and trade
[2016-08-18 15:40:14] BitMEX_Greg : billyboy402: http://polymer.bu.edu/hes/rp-hull12.pdf Hull's textbook is known as the bible in Finance. Every trader would have a copy on their desk
[2016-08-18 15:40:34] billyboy402 : 4lph4: please dont ever respond to me , it annoying that chrome give me a notication when a troll " mention you"
[2016-08-18 15:41:13] BitMEX_Greg : It can be a bit daunting at first, but if you are serious about trading I highly recommend it.
[2016-08-18 15:41:25] 4lph4 : billyboy402: you are so arrogant mate, you deserve the worst I cannot imagine there are people like you. totally uneducated on the matter and demanding
[2016-08-18 15:41:49] BitMEX_Greg : 4lph4: Let's keep it to a minimum here
[2016-08-18 15:42:31] billyboy402 : i have asked you nice , please stop harassing me . @4lph4
[2016-08-18 15:42:47] 4lph4 : billyboy402: lol what a looser
[2016-08-18 15:43:02] billyboy402 : BitMEX_Greg: thx for the link
[2016-08-18 15:46:32] BitMEX_Greg : No prob, I'll try to help out where possible but we not be able to respond as quick as you like for some questions you have. Try google it first, if you still don't understand some terminology give us a ping
[2016-08-18 15:47:06] daveberns1 : Anybody else on CF?
[2016-08-18 15:47:22] billyboy402 : BitMEX_Greg: any reason why the funding rate are not calculated more frequently like every hour
[2016-08-18 15:48:18] daveberns1 : somebody came in and bought up all the far dated futures
[2016-08-18 15:48:35] daveberns1 : massive spreads on dec and mar futures
[2016-08-18 15:48:40] billyboy402 : seam like every time I look "shorts will receive 0.1583%" ... then i check tomorrow and see that I have paid interest not
[2016-08-18 15:50:55] BitMEX_Greg : billyboy402: Take a look at: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory
[2016-08-18 15:51:24] BitMEX_Greg : You can click on the XBTUSD symbol to isolate it, else you can filter by adding `{"symbol":"XBTUSD"}` in the search box
[2016-08-18 15:53:01] billyboy402 : yea i saw that ,. just feel like every time before the 8 hours it pop up for 5 min , and the funding rate not what iot been saying for the last 7 hours
[2016-08-18 15:53:31] BitMEX_Greg : The periods also tie in with rebalancing, and for the purposes of settling PnL and positions. More importantly it's also to account for any liquidation events that could lead to losses (need a long enough period to have liquidations taken care of).
[2016-08-18 15:53:46] BitMEX_Greg : The funding is always fixed
[2016-08-18 15:54:09] billyboy402 : would there be any benfits if it was done every hour
[2016-08-18 15:54:10] BitMEX_Greg : So right now, in 4 hours time shorts will get paid 0.1583%
[2016-08-18 15:54:40] billyboy402 : yea , but in 4 hours . it will prob be 0.015%
[2016-08-18 15:54:58] BitMEX_Greg : No, it is fixed.
[2016-08-18 15:55:13] BitMEX_Greg : It won't change at all when it comes to the 4 hour rebalance event
[2016-08-18 15:55:19] billyboy402 : like i came on 12 hours ago , and it said short would make XXXX ... then come online , then see i was charge
[2016-08-18 15:55:23] BitMEX_Greg : If you hover over it, it tells you the next predicted funding
[2016-08-18 15:56:15] billyboy402 : would be great if you could click a box , so u didnt have to tpe {"symbol":"XBTUSD"}
[2016-08-18 15:56:35] BitMEX_Greg : You can click on the Symbol
[2016-08-18 15:56:52] billyboy402 : ok yea that easyer
[2016-08-18 15:56:55] BitMEX_Greg : See where it says LSKXBT or FCTXBT etc
[2016-08-18 15:56:58] BitMEX_Greg : just click one of those
[2016-08-18 16:09:26] macios15 : nice pump
[2016-08-18 16:16:11] wotan : agree btc more and more looks kinda bullish to me
[2016-08-18 16:16:15] wotan : but lets see
[2016-08-18 16:16:35] wotan : could take some weeks or months even for a return to another level
[2016-08-18 16:24:04] 4lph4 : wotan: $5 "pump"
[2016-08-18 16:25:07] wotan : yes 4lph4 but at least its good if we find a bottom for btc right now 3800 is holding good
[2016-08-18 16:29:33] 4lph4 : wotan: there is nothing significant on the news that could explain an upwards price move.. what I see is people still talking about bitfinex and lawsuits.. dunno...
[2016-08-18 16:32:26] wotan : 4lph4 i see it completely other
[2016-08-18 16:33:31] wotan : btc is still the crypto standart many projects out there, world ecoonomic is in a terrible shape, kim dotcom willl release his bitcache in early 2017 and many more
[2016-08-18 16:34:05] 4lph4 : wotan: well don't get me wrong, I was focusing on this week or the next, not generally btc's potential.. :)
[2016-08-18 16:35:02] wotan : sure i agree short term i dont see a strong uptrend but midterm like weeks and months i would not be suprised for it
[2016-08-18 16:35:10] premjeraz : withdrawals processes just one per 24hours ? next 13 UTC so ir next 21hours ? really ?
[2016-08-18 16:35:39] wotan : yes premjeraz withdrawals are processed from humans here and its good for safety
[2016-08-18 16:35:48] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2016-08-18 16:36:19] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/security
[2016-08-18 16:36:58] 4lph4 : wotan: I wouldn't be surprised either, I would actually be surprised if the price does not look sexy by the end of the year
[2016-08-18 16:37:17] premjeraz : its not when its proccesed one per 24hours..sometimes i want move btc fast..
[2016-08-18 16:38:08] wotan : 4lph4 agree
[2016-08-18 16:38:25] premjeraz : at least they could do every 6 or 8hours... now is funds like frozen
[2016-08-18 16:39:32] premjeraz : i liked this platform, but this withdrawal policy is not very good for me
[2016-08-18 17:00:45] jesperf : premjeraz: wrong use case. this is not a wallet service
[2016-08-18 17:01:40] jesperf : the withdrawal policy is good for everyone. I'd like for them to continue not losing a single bitcoin of customer deposits
[2016-08-18 17:19:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 167 @ 0.002955
[2016-08-18 17:23:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 3050 @ 0.002916
[2016-08-18 18:27:32] zanza : what are you in a rush for premjeraz ?
[2016-08-18 18:34:11] Bittip : Hi
[2016-08-18 18:34:33] Bittip : how to trade here
[2016-08-18 18:35:00] Bittip : any one to guide me
[2016-08-18 18:49:54] BitMEX_Greg : Bittip: Hi, we have several guides here helping users learn how to trade.
[2016-08-18 18:50:09] BitMEX_Greg : I suggest to start here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview
[2016-08-18 18:55:45] premjeraz : zanza: yes, kind of.
[2016-08-18 19:57:47] justinlooking : did someone say rETC
[2016-08-18 20:16:25] jackbr : testnet is down?
[2016-08-18 20:23:20] rapidtrades : haxmb: update on the lawyer situation?
[2016-08-18 20:28:09] BitMEX_Sam : jackbr: Yes, will be back up shortly
[2016-08-18 20:36:57] jackbr : thx
[2016-08-18 20:42:18] Tetsuo : https://bitcoin.org/en/alert/2016-08-17-binary-safety
[2016-08-18 20:42:38] Tetsuo : "Bitcoin.org has reason to suspect that the binaries for the upcoming Bitcoin Core release will likely be targeted by state sponsored attackers. As a website, Bitcoin.org does not have the necessary technical resources to guarantee that we can defend ourselves from attackers of this calibre."
[2016-08-18 20:43:23] Tetsuo : In such a situation, not being careful before you download binaries could cause you to lose all your coins. This malicious software might also cause your computer to participate in attacks against the Bitcoin network. We believe Chinese services such as pools and exchanges are most at risk here due to the origin of the attackers.
[2016-08-18 20:45:17] rapidtrades : pffft
[2016-08-18 20:45:36] rapidtrades : that's NOT GOOD
[2016-08-18 20:46:19] rapidtrades : how about this tho https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4ycryp/eli49_why_is_one_single_person_able_to_change_the/
[2016-08-18 20:46:25] rapidtrades : looks like website got hacked
[2016-08-18 20:49:42] rapidtrades : yeah that safety alert is not official from the developers
[2016-08-18 20:51:44] Tetsuo : i´m confused
[2016-08-18 20:53:05] rapidtrades : yeah that's not a 'real' security update
[2016-08-18 20:53:11] rapidtrades : tkae a look at this tho https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4yc6xq/bitfinex_what_do_the_etherium_holders_know_that/
[2016-08-18 20:53:31] rapidtrades : bitfinex held 1 mil ETH....that's an extra 10mil in assets over bitcoin
[2016-08-18 20:54:09] Tetsuo : have read that already.... i´m not shocked about it at this point; lol
[2016-08-18 20:54:42] rapidtrades : so they barely had any usd on the stie?
[2016-08-18 20:55:35] rapidtrades : cos they lost 65-70 mil in btc...they had extra 70 mil in BTC left....plus 10 ETH
[2016-08-18 20:56:04] rapidtrades : math doesn't add up....
[2016-08-18 20:56:13] rapidtrades : that leaves barely any USD
[2016-08-18 20:56:19] rapidtrades : like 5-10 mil
[2016-08-18 20:56:22] Tetsuo : yep
[2016-08-18 20:56:27] rapidtrades : and that's not even counting LTC
[2016-08-18 20:56:36] rapidtrades : how much $$$ did they keep? this is crazy
[2016-08-18 20:57:10] rapidtrades : smth is srsly wrong at that exchange
[2016-08-18 20:58:04] rapidtrades : they kept much more then 7 mil USD
[2016-08-18 21:06:02] rapidtrades : 119,756 BTC stolen, valued at 604
[2016-08-18 21:09:53] rapidtrades : to arrive at 36% haircut, the amount of USD in there should've been <20 mil and that seems really low
[2016-08-18 21:10:21] rapidtrades : shouldn't u expect a value close to 50/50? value of bitcoins was over 140 mil pre-hack
[2016-08-18 21:12:59] rapidtrades : help me math nerds....72.2 mil in hacked coins....around 78mil in BTC lett plus 1mil in ETH and they say they kept 7mil USD
[2016-08-18 21:13:28] rapidtrades : how much USD is it to arrive at 36% haircut
[2016-08-18 21:13:46] rapidtrades : srry 10mil in ETH not 1
[2016-08-18 21:15:54] BitMEX_Sam : 72M / 36.067% is roughly 200.2M
[2016-08-18 21:16:04] BitMEX_Sam : So expect they should have at least that much in assets
[2016-08-18 21:18:13] habibi : rapidtrades: nice:) 22:56 - rapidtrades: math doesn't add up.... 20 minutes later: 23:12 - rapidtrades: help me math nerds....72.2 mil in hacked coins....around 78mil in BTC lett plus 1mil in ETH and they say they kept 7mil USD
[2016-08-18 21:19:05] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: ah cool now it makes sense tnx
[2016-08-18 21:20:12] rapidtrades : that leaves 47 mil usd if we include the 7 they took to fight off our lawsuits
[2016-08-18 21:21:09] rapidtrades : isn't that still on the low side? total value of BTC was close to 150 mil yet not even 50 mil USD?
[2016-08-18 21:22:04] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, it does seem low, but it stands to reason there'd be more BTC, it's much easier to move it
[2016-08-18 21:22:17] BitMEX_Sam : And they had built up a large userbase of unverifieds who were BTC in/out
[2016-08-18 21:23:34] rapidtrades : right but shouldn't the value of the two balance each other out? for every long there's a short etc
[2016-08-18 21:24:03] BitMEX_Sam : No, not necessarily
[2016-08-18 21:24:12] BitMEX_Sam : A lot of it could have just been held
[2016-08-18 21:24:17] BitMEX_Sam : Or exchanged for other cryptos
[2016-08-18 21:24:58] rapidtrades : ok
[2016-08-18 21:25:36] rapidtrades : do we know how much did LTC contribute? prolly 1mil max?
[2016-08-18 21:26:19] rapidtrades : all others are prolly <5mil
[2016-08-18 21:39:05] rapidtrades : anyone back to trading over there?
[2016-08-18 21:39:50] zanza : I have a big wire coming through it never showed up
[2016-08-18 21:39:57] zanza : no reply to my tickets
[2016-08-18 21:43:02] rapidtrades : yeah, right
[2016-08-18 21:43:17] zanza : almost $50k its been 2 weeks now
[2016-08-18 21:43:21] zanza : im getting worried
[2016-08-18 21:45:02] rapidtrades : are u srs?
[2016-08-18 21:45:35] zanza : this was my last money , I had to borrow from family members I am screwed if something ahppens
[2016-08-18 21:46:58] rapidtrades : shit man,that sucks
[2016-08-18 21:47:18] rapidtrades : did u try getting in touch with ur bank and reversing it?
[2016-08-18 21:47:26] rapidtrades : banks wires can't go missing
[2016-08-18 22:01:01] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4ydqz7/is_ledger_labs_even_an_accredited_accounting_firm/
[2016-08-19 00:15:48] ett1 : what is cross leverage
[2016-08-19 00:50:54] zanza : im j/k i never used BitFinex
[2016-08-19 01:23:57] zanza : cross leverage means your full acct balance is used to margin
[2016-08-19 01:24:39] zanza : so you are least likely to be liquidated
[2016-08-19 02:36:28] rapidtrades : zanza: u polish weasel
[2016-08-19 03:03:42] Rado : lol
[2016-08-19 03:03:54] Rado : zanza you are not polish are you?
[2016-08-19 03:04:15] Rado : BTC so boring the last couple of days
[2016-08-19 03:05:54] rapidtrades : yeah we're gonna break out soon i think
[2016-08-19 03:06:36] rapidtrades : Rado: did u get a reply?
[2016-08-19 03:06:48] Rado : no
[2016-08-19 03:07:04] rapidtrades : it takes a while
[2016-08-19 03:10:18] rapidtrades : Rado: do u happen to know stu's email? their 'legal council'
[2016-08-19 03:10:38] rapidtrades : zane posted it like dozen times initially but now i can't find it anywhere
[2016-08-19 03:10:54] Rado : I don't
[2016-08-19 03:11:00] Rado : what is his full name?
[2016-08-19 03:11:07] rapidtrades : https://ca.linkedin.com/in/stuart-hoegner-bb67695
[2016-08-19 03:12:00] rapidtrades : i went thru this guy's post history and it seems he deleted the info idk https://www.reddit.com/user/zanetackett
[2016-08-19 03:12:14] rapidtrades : went pretty far back
[2016-08-19 03:12:22] Rado : rapidtrades: stu@gamingcounsel.co
[2016-08-19 03:12:35] Rado : http://www.gamingcounsel.co/about/
[2016-08-19 03:13:36] rapidtrades : it was a different one i think with bitfinex prefix but guess that's fine too
[2016-08-19 03:13:38] rapidtrades : thanks
[2016-08-19 03:14:26] rapidtrades : it's frustrating how everyone is doing this on their own
[2016-08-19 03:14:44] Bittip : I am still confused here how to buy sell
[2016-08-19 03:14:55] Bittip : rapidtrades: hi
[2016-08-19 03:15:04] Bittip : will u guide me
[2016-08-19 03:15:13] Bittip : how to put and call
[2016-08-19 03:15:15] rapidtrades : sleger sent them legal request but didn't want to share any details...then yday that other guy was consulting with a lawyer
[2016-08-19 03:15:38] rapidtrades : now i will prolly have to pay smone too
[2016-08-19 03:15:52] rapidtrades : we keep wasting time and money
[2016-08-19 03:18:08] Bittip : rapidtrades: is this best one or just waste time
[2016-08-19 03:18:46] Bittip : rapidtrades: really I am confused and how to make profit here no guide line here
[2016-08-19 03:20:10] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: u have a new one here ^^^
[2016-08-19 03:20:43] rapidtrades : Bittip: sry man, preoccupied with smth else
[2016-08-19 03:26:53] zanza : Bittip: what contact do you want to trade?
[2016-08-19 03:27:24] Bittip : Btc but how
[2016-08-19 03:27:36] zanza : how what?
[2016-08-19 03:27:40] Bittip : and any coin that's give profit
[2016-08-19 03:27:56] Bittip : i like put call option
[2016-08-19 03:28:04] zanza : what country are you from ?
[2016-08-19 03:29:15] zanza : You buy XBT, if price goes UP you make money, if price goes DOWN you lose money
[2016-08-19 03:29:34] zanza : You sell XBT, if price goes down you make money, if price goes up you lose money
[2016-08-19 03:30:43] Bittip : zanza: how much I will lose and gain demo pls
[2016-08-19 03:31:28] zanza : use calculator
[2016-08-19 03:31:38] zanza : see "Place Order"
[2016-08-19 03:31:47] zanza : to the right of it is calculator
[2016-08-19 03:32:00] Bittip : I buy 10 @ 572 and if it hit @572.01
[2016-08-19 03:32:20] Bittip : i lose or win how huch I will win
[2016-08-19 03:32:30] zanza : use calculator
[2016-08-19 03:33:00] Bittip : zanza: where is is it
[2016-08-19 03:33:20] zanza : 20:31 - zanza: see "Place Order" 20:31 - zanza: to the right of it is calculator
[2016-08-19 03:33:46] zanza : above "stop market"
[2016-08-19 03:36:34] zanza : do you see it?
[2016-08-19 03:38:43] Bittip : zanza: I put it on cal 572 and 572.01 in fact it show me -.0174
[2016-08-19 03:38:47] Bittip : whats this
[2016-08-19 03:39:07] zanza : because there is fees
[2016-08-19 03:39:32] zanza : wait
[2016-08-19 03:39:56] zanza : LONG = CALL
[2016-08-19 03:40:01] zanza : SHORT = PUT
[2016-08-19 03:40:12] Bittip : What is long and short here
[2016-08-19 03:40:27] zanza : Entry Type: LongShort
[2016-08-19 03:40:35] zanza : LONG = Buy SHORT = Sell
[2016-08-19 03:41:12] Bittip : zanza: thanks for idea
[2016-08-19 03:41:45] zanza : you should do trades on https://testnet.bitmex.com/ to practice, it seems you are learning
[2016-08-19 03:41:46] Bittip : and what's traling stop
[2016-08-19 03:41:47] billyboy402 : BitMEX_Sam: why is .XBTBON8H 0.0727% when BFX bitcoin rate is been around 0.02% for the last 3 days , and the polo rate is even lower
[2016-08-19 03:43:14] zanza : http://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/trailingstop.asp
[2016-08-19 03:45:10] zanza : The BitMEX .XBTBON8H Index is a 8-hour TWAP of the Bitcoin lending rate at Bitfinex ending at 12:00 UTC from the .XBTBON Index. These values are used for funding rates and are provided 8 hours in advance. billyboy402
[2016-08-19 03:46:56] billyboy402 : and the index here and the Kaiko is always out too , 575 on the index and bitmex index is 571
[2016-08-19 03:47:10] billyboy402 : https://www.kaiko.com/
[2016-08-19 03:47:23] billyboy402 : what was the reason why they dont use blocktrade.com
[2016-08-19 03:47:34] billyboy402 : tradeblock.com
[2016-08-19 03:48:15] zanza : Kaiko is 571 now
[2016-08-19 03:49:26] billyboy402 : strange , i just refresh and getting $575.61
[2016-08-19 03:50:01] billyboy402 : OkCoin - $572.70Bitfinex - $573.64BTC-e - $573.41Bitstamp - $570.88Coinbase - $575.03Kraken - $573.47Itbit - $573.23Gemini - $575.15Huobi - $572.91
[2016-08-19 03:50:09] zanza : fir XBT spot on the top ?
[2016-08-19 03:50:20] zanza : shows $571.79 for me now
[2016-08-19 03:50:31] zanza : might be a browser issue
[2016-08-19 03:50:32] billyboy402 : https://www.kaiko.com/ not on bitmex
[2016-08-19 03:50:57] zanza : BTC: $ 575.53
[2016-08-19 03:51:02] zanza : yeah i see it
[2016-08-19 03:52:30] billyboy402 : even tradebnlock ios 573
[2016-08-19 03:55:10] zanza : Kaiko has different indexes
[2016-08-19 03:55:47] zanza : China is like 576 so thats why the global is higher
[2016-08-19 03:55:59] micmix : billyboy402: https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-08-19 03:56:43] billyboy402 : micmix: thx mate , I didnt know they use their own index
[2016-08-19 03:57:29] billyboy402 : strange they dont use more exchange to get better avg , OKCoin, Bitfinex and Bitstamp
[2016-08-19 03:57:34] micmix : billyboy402: BitMEX index is 50% bitstamp and 50% okcoin usd, and bitstamp is bearstamp as usual ;-)
[2016-08-19 03:57:44] billyboy402 : should add coinbase . btc-e
[2016-08-19 03:59:30] micmix : more exchanges is not always better. they had 5 exchanges in the index and it wasn't that good when coinbase was going crazy with $10 drops
[2016-08-19 04:00:11] micmix : they had finex in the index before the hack and it was working really well. 2 is not ideal
[2016-08-19 04:01:04] billyboy402 : with more exchange , when coinbase has $10 spike , it shouldnt inpack it too much
[2016-08-19 04:02:11] micmix : the index is volume based, so big sell on coinbase increases its weight
[2016-08-19 04:02:53] micmix : if finex stays solvent they will add it back and everything will be good again :-)
[2016-08-19 04:03:30] billyboy402 : haha , that comment , "IF"
[2016-08-19 04:04:13] micmix : zanza has to send more 50k wires to finex to help everyone ;-)
[2016-08-19 04:05:00] billyboy402 : what the short answer , if I am short , when do i pay and recive interest , Short , = pay when above index > recive = when price is below index ? ( or is it the other way around)
[2016-08-19 04:07:29] micmix : price above mark => premium positive => funding rate positive => longs pay, shorts receive
[2016-08-19 04:08:09] billyboy402 : micmix: cheers
[2016-08-19 04:09:14] billyboy402 : so when your long , you want it to be under index ... and when your short you want it to hold above index .....( so you dont have to pay fees
[2016-08-19 04:11:30] micmix : yeah, the idea is that you are paid to short when the price is above mark, and your short helps to keep the price down, closer to mark. and vice versa
[2016-08-19 06:22:36] Mm bot : Guess BTC breaks up or down next?
[2016-08-19 06:26:28] sq : Up
[2016-08-19 06:29:27] Bittip : billyboy402: I am till confused here pls help me to take profit and how do I closed
[2016-08-19 06:30:51] Bittip : Support check my trading
[2016-08-19 06:31:04] Bittip : i am in lose or profit
[2016-08-19 06:31:27] Bittip : and how to closed after taking profit
[2016-08-19 06:31:55] Bittip : its hard to understand here
[2016-08-19 06:32:12] Bittip : others option are dare and good
[2016-08-19 06:50:48] billyboy402 : Bittip: hey mate what question do you have
[2016-08-19 06:52:14] BitMEX_Wally : Bittip: If you are long, then to close your position you sell
[2016-08-19 06:55:48] billyboy402 : BitMEX_Wally: any way you can create notification for funding and rebalance , maybe 15 min before , kinda like when you open or close a trade chrome sent a pop up
[2016-08-19 07:12:34] BitMEX_Wally : Not a bad idea, I'll see what we can do
[2016-08-19 08:56:29] rapidtrades : look at those toekns flyyyyyyyyyyy
[2016-08-19 09:05:32] rapidtrades : what do u guys think about this? https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4ygcaq/lightningdev_clightning_04_released_wrights/
[2016-08-19 09:15:56] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: hi here now I am login will u guide me pls
[2016-08-19 09:20:01] rapidtrades : Bittip: did u try testnet
[2016-08-19 09:20:21] rapidtrades : https://testnet.bitmex.com/
[2016-08-19 09:20:53] rapidtrades : works with testnet bitcoins
[2016-08-19 10:14:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 2000 @ 0.002853
[2016-08-19 10:14:49] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: I am confused what to do
[2016-08-19 10:15:28] Bittip : REKT: will u guide how do I take profit
[2016-08-19 10:16:05] Bittip : REKT: what is rebalance
[2016-08-19 10:16:46] habibi : Bittip: everything is here https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/XBT
[2016-08-19 10:18:30] Bittip : habibi: did not understand this lesson
[2016-08-19 10:19:11] Bittip : let me demo I press on green 20usd @ 571.03
[2016-08-19 10:19:25] Bittip : and i want to now that I am in loss or profit
[2016-08-19 10:19:35] Bittip : Any help pls
[2016-08-19 10:19:48] Bittip : and in account that's rebalance
[2016-08-19 10:20:24] Tetsuo : Bittip: Rule No.1 - Don´t get REKT
[2016-08-19 10:21:00] Bittip : habibi: @Tetsuo ?
[2016-08-19 10:25:25] BitMEX_Wally : Bittip: Look at your `Open Positions` tab. There are two columns, `Unrealised PNL` and `Realised PNL`. If positive then profit, if negative then loss
[2016-08-19 10:26:16] BitMEX_Wally : Your realised PNL might be slightly negative due to trading fees
[2016-08-19 10:27:19] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: in fact how do I take profit
[2016-08-19 10:27:32] BitMEX_Wally : If you are long, then sell
[2016-08-19 10:27:38] BitMEX_Wally : (at a price higher than you bought at)
[2016-08-19 10:27:55] Bittip : how much I will get profit
[2016-08-19 10:28:00] BitMEX_Wally : Depends what price you sell at
[2016-08-19 10:28:10] BitMEX_Wally : Up need the `Place Order` widget there is a calculator icon, click on that
[2016-08-19 10:28:12] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: and in account what is rebalance
[2016-08-19 10:28:25] BitMEX_Wally : Rebalance is how profit/loss is moved into your wallet
[2016-08-19 10:28:51] BitMEX_Wally : The pending rebalance in your wallet right now is the profit and loss for XBTUSD for the last 24 hours
[2016-08-19 10:30:13] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: and in when we be in PnL can we closed
[2016-08-19 10:33:10] BitMEX_Wally : You can always close your position
[2016-08-19 10:45:25] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: if I closed position in profit then can I have profit or what
[2016-08-19 10:46:24] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: ans me
[2016-08-19 10:47:44] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: if we closed in profit then can I have profit
[2016-08-19 10:48:56] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: I bought in green 20 contract and how do I sell
[2016-08-19 10:52:41] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: I now u will ans me on time up
[2016-08-19 10:54:04] premjeraz : i have another question? how much there we paying fees? coz, im not getting now whats happend.... i had 21200 XBT contracts long with 571.58 $ with ~0.7BTC cost, sold everything for 572.03 (fill price) and now i see i have PNL -0.0775 XBT ..so that means i lost more than 10% of stake even techincally i had profit and shows withheld profit 0.0302 XBT . sorry, im little confused, please can anyone explain whats there happened///coz i th
[2016-08-19 10:54:57] rapidtrades : premjeraz: funding benefited shorts today
[2016-08-19 10:55:39] premjeraz : but this in next hour
[2016-08-19 10:55:55] rapidtrades : ah
[2016-08-19 10:56:31] rapidtrades : did u use market orders to get in and out or limit
[2016-08-19 10:57:00] premjeraz : limit
[2016-08-19 10:57:27] premjeraz : in and out i used limit
[2016-08-19 10:57:35] rapidtrades : thats weird
[2016-08-19 10:57:47] Bittip : Wasted my day at ponzy scam bitmex
[2016-08-19 10:58:36] premjeraz : yes, its weird.. maybe anyone from bitmex support can help me
[2016-08-19 10:59:29] Bittip : Hard here to understand ponzy scam
[2016-08-19 10:59:34] Bittip : othere are easy and best
[2016-08-19 11:01:16] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: pls any one guide me
[2016-08-19 11:02:27] premjeraz : i see i paid sell fee 0.025016, so its not 0.07
[2016-08-19 11:02:27] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: pls help me soon
[2016-08-19 11:02:46] Bittip : premjeraz: will u guide me pls
[2016-08-19 11:03:34] Bittip : premjeraz: I am seeing profit in rebalance what this
[2016-08-19 11:04:32] premjeraz : Bittip: sorry, i cant help u. now im trying to find answer
[2016-08-19 11:05:07] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: sir help need urgent
[2016-08-19 11:05:36] Bittip : I have taked all screen shot for future
[2016-08-19 11:06:10] premjeraz : BitMEX_Wally: can u explain
[2016-08-19 11:12:06] BitMEX_Wally : Bittip: Try clicking the sell button to sell
[2016-08-19 11:12:41] BitMEX_Wally : You are seeing a pending profit in rebalance because the mark price is currently higher than your average buy price
[2016-08-19 11:13:11] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: sir in my panding position it's seeing me profit rebalance what's this
[2016-08-19 11:13:26] BitMEX_Wally : It's profit
[2016-08-19 11:13:43] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: how to take this profit
[2016-08-19 11:13:49] BitMEX_Wally : You bought at 571.76 and 570.31 and now the mark price is 572.45
[2016-08-19 11:13:51] BitMEX_Wally : Sell
[2016-08-19 11:14:06] premjeraz : BitMEX_Wally: please look up in to my message
[2016-08-19 11:14:18] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: where to sell and how
[2016-08-19 11:14:37] BitMEX_Wally : Bittip: Do you remember how you bought?
[2016-08-19 11:14:45] BitMEX_Wally : There are 2 buttons, one says Buy and the other says Sell
[2016-08-19 11:14:56] Bittip : Yes
[2016-08-19 11:15:03] BitMEX_Wally : Put in quantity of 20 and click sell
[2016-08-19 11:15:23] BitMEX_Wally : premjeraz: Let me have a look
[2016-08-19 11:15:33] premjeraz : BitMEX_Wally: ok
[2016-08-19 11:15:44] Bittip : And how much profit I will get
[2016-08-19 11:16:27] BitMEX_Wally : Bittip: If you sell at 572.74 then you will make 0.0000229 XBT in total
[2016-08-19 11:21:10] BitMEX_Wally : premjeraz: You were long 21200 contracts of XBTUSD and at 2016.08.19 04:00 UTC the funding rate was 0.1661% so you paid 0.061597 XBT funding
[2016-08-19 11:21:26] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: only shit profit
[2016-08-19 11:22:14] BitMEX_Wally : Bittip: You only opened 20 contracts, that's a position worth 0.0352 Bitcoin
[2016-08-19 11:22:58] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: did I get 0.0352
[2016-08-19 11:24:14] BitMEX_Wally : Bittip: No, you were long 0.0352 Bitcoin worth of XBT, and your profit was 0.06% of this
[2016-08-19 11:24:26] premjeraz : BitMEX_Wally: ok, thanks... just now find out funding happens every 8hours, not like rebalance once in 24hours..
[2016-08-19 11:24:36] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: I saw u in rabbit u were on no. 1 but if this profit u must be on 99
[2016-08-19 11:25:23] Bittip : Some like u give grade deal
[2016-08-19 11:26:01] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: will u guide me how to make in atleast 0.01 in one bet
[2016-08-19 11:26:47] jesperf : Bittip: you have to buy more contracts to get more profit
[2016-08-19 11:27:16] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, you can use 50x leverage, i.e. trade a position 50 times bigger than the amount you deposited
[2016-08-19 11:27:16] jesperf : or wait for a bigger price movement before selling
[2016-08-19 11:27:58] Bittip : jesperf: and if time up then
[2016-08-19 11:29:16] jesperf : Bittip: I don't understand you. your english is crap and that's why you're having problems
[2016-08-19 11:29:54] Bittip : jesperf: may be u r right
[2016-08-19 11:30:36] Bittip : jesperf: my English is shit
[2016-08-19 11:31:56] jesperf : take your time, read the guides, get help from a friend who can translate for you
[2016-08-19 11:42:26] Bittip : jesperf: u now but I can make good profit in trading I creat a account in others trading and make 1 btc in 3 days
[2016-08-19 11:42:49] Bittip : jesperf: without any coin
[2016-08-19 11:43:24] Bittip : jesperf: they give me free for singup and I got my luck
[2016-08-19 11:44:01] jesperf : there are no free gifts here. just blood and tears.
[2016-08-19 11:44:41] Bittip : jesperf: ya really I got 0.005 free and I build my real account
[2016-08-19 11:44:55] Bittip : i mean 1 btc
[2016-08-19 11:46:00] Bittip : jesperf: hay what's here Xbt and xbt
[2016-08-19 11:50:58] rapidtrades : dam these tokens are some volatile shit
[2016-08-19 11:51:21] Boontjie : 10% up and down
[2016-08-19 11:51:24] Boontjie : up and down
[2016-08-19 11:51:44] Boontjie : and there is no liquidity to boot
[2016-08-19 11:51:47] rapidtrades : they went up like 20% now down 10%..around
[2016-08-19 11:52:09] rapidtrades : there's ok liquidity on buttfinex...not great but okay
[2016-08-19 11:52:42] Boontjie : I was thinking here
[2016-08-19 11:52:58] Boontjie : It is not a good idea to short this crap with crappy liquidity
[2016-08-19 11:54:01] rapidtrades : i should just sell these and get out while i can...it's validity will be dubious in any liquidation
[2016-08-19 11:54:28] rapidtrades : i doubt any court will recognize them as a valid debt instrument
[2016-08-19 12:01:12] rapidtrades : BFXUSD now on trading view btw
[2016-08-19 12:03:20] Bittip : any one guide mxbt 0.023 = Xbt how much
[2016-08-19 12:06:14] rapidtrades : Bittip: https://translate.google.com/
[2016-08-19 12:06:38] rapidtrades : type in ur local language
[2016-08-19 12:07:04] rapidtrades : btw if ur chinese, there's one support guy who speaks ur lang but he's not here atm
[2016-08-19 12:23:21] nip : Bittip: 0.000023 XBT
[2016-08-19 12:31:26] palgba : this 7d etc settlement makes me want to trow up
[2016-08-19 12:32:10] palgba : when is the perpetual swapfor etc like eth does
[2016-08-19 14:06:06] premjeraz : BitMEX_Wally: "BitMEX_Wally: premjeraz: You were long 21200 contracts of XBTUSD and at 2016.08.19 04:00 UTC the funding rate was 0.1661% so you paid 0.061597 XBT funding" but in https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees says long funding is -0.0214%, so why is such different rate ?
[2016-08-19 14:07:31] premjeraz : Today, longs will receive 0.0214%, and shorts will pay 0.0214%
[2016-08-19 14:09:32] BitMEX_Arthur : premjeraz: The funding rate changes every 8 hours
[2016-08-19 14:10:38] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory
[2016-08-19 14:10:45] premjeraz : so how i can know what rates is now short/long ? and what i going to be later ?
[2016-08-19 14:12:15] BitMEX_Arthur : Under Contract Details, we tell you the current funding to be charged in X hours time, X is the amount of time between now and the next funding time which is every 8 hours, and the predicted funding to be charged in X + 8 hours time
[2016-08-19 14:13:55] premjeraz : in that funding history shows funding rate = long position rate ?
[2016-08-19 14:14:43] premjeraz : and short is opposite ? like is now 0.11 long, then short is -0.11
[2016-08-19 14:15:05] BitMEX_Arthur : +ve rate means longs pay shorts, -ve rate means shorts pay longs
[2016-08-19 14:16:08] premjeraz : but in tagt result list is all +, so where is short history table ?
[2016-08-19 14:16:23] premjeraz : aaa ok
[2016-08-19 14:18:57] premjeraz : and ho i can find ongoing rates ?
[2016-08-19 14:20:45] premjeraz : 2016-08-19 13:00:00 XBTUSD every 8 hours 0.0731% 0.2193%
[2016-08-19 14:21:07] premjeraz : this current rate or it previous interval ?
[2016-08-19 14:23:56] BitMEX_Greg : If you look at the trading dashboard, then under "Contract Details" it has some details for XBTUSD
[2016-08-19 14:24:02] BitMEX_Greg : One of those details is "Funding"
[2016-08-19 14:24:14] BitMEX_Greg : Right now the funding is -0.0214% in 6 hours
[2016-08-19 14:24:30] BitMEX_Greg : that will be charge in 6 hours on any current positions at that time
[2016-08-19 14:25:13] BitMEX_Greg : If you hover over it, you will see the predicted funding rate for the 8 hour interval starting after the current period. (Predicted to be -0.0065%)
[2016-08-19 14:28:31] premjeraz : but this 0.0214% from fees site
[2016-08-19 14:29:22] premjeraz : this funding stuff is so confusing, looks like u cant predict how you going be charged after funding interval
[2016-08-19 14:30:19] premjeraz : coz everywhere its shows rates from https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2016-08-19 14:30:26] premjeraz : not a real rates
[2016-08-19 14:30:46] BitMEX_Greg : Fees are different to funding charges
[2016-08-19 14:31:15] BitMEX_Greg : And we show you the funding in advance so you know exactly how much you will be charged funding
[2016-08-19 14:35:14] premjeraz : where is that in advance ?
[2016-08-19 14:35:54] premjeraz : in that hisoty last one is current one? or for previous interval ?
[2016-08-19 14:36:15] BitMEX_Greg : We show you on the trading dashboard what the funding will be
[2016-08-19 14:36:32] BitMEX_Greg : The funding charge will be -0.0214% in 5 hours time
[2016-08-19 14:37:27] premjeraz : but this one like from tha fees page, why all previous wasnt like that?
[2016-08-19 14:38:05] premjeraz : sorry, everything so confusing here... nice trading platform, but is not easy to count risk on funding fees
[2016-08-19 14:39:30] premjeraz : all this from contract details are like basic
[2016-08-19 14:39:33] premjeraz : Series Leverage Maker Fee Taker Fee Long Funding Short Funding Funding Interval Bitcoin (XBT) 50x -0.025% 0.075% -0.0214% 0.0214% Every 8 hours Ethereum (ETH) 33x -0.025% 0.075% 0.0091% -0.0091% Every 8 hours Litecoin (LTC) 25x -0.025% 0.075% 0.0034% -0.0034% Every 8 hours Lisk (LSK) 3.33x -0.025% 0.075% 0.0152% -0.0152% Every 8 hours Factom (FCT) 10x -0.025% 0.075% 0.1189% -0.1189% Every 8 hours
[2016-08-19 14:39:39] premjeraz : all this data
[2016-08-19 14:39:58] premjeraz : but when u look in to history there was no rate like this
[2016-08-19 14:42:54] BitMEX_Greg : Did you have positions on all those derivatives?
[2016-08-19 14:42:59] BitMEX_Greg : If not then it won't show up in your history
[2016-08-19 14:44:28] premjeraz : i have open position and im not sure how im going be charged, coz two last charges was like suprise for me.. my mistake
[2016-08-19 14:47:16] premjeraz : but here is different than is contract details... like i sure there was this -0.0214% on XBTUSD, but i was charged 0.16% , that i want to know.. how we can know current rate ?
[2016-08-19 14:49:01] BitMEX_Greg : Ok so lets say you have a long position now of 100 BTC on. The funding is FIXED, which means in 5 hours now, you will be charges -0.0214% funding on the 100 BTC position, assuming the size of your position doesn't change between now and then. Given the rate is negative, you will actually RECEIVE funding of 0.0214%. That is 0.0214% * 100 BTC = 0.0214 BTC you will receive
[2016-08-19 14:49:40] BitMEX_Greg : premjeraz: The CURRENT rate is -0.0214%.
[2016-08-19 14:49:48] BitMEX_Greg : premjeraz: You can see PAST rates here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory
[2016-08-19 14:53:24] premjeraz : in that funding history shows funding rate = long position rate ?
[2016-08-19 14:53:45] premjeraz : i think we both talking about different things..
[2016-08-19 14:57:19] premjeraz : things is... now i have short position, where i was charged bigger % then shows in fee site and after another funding interval im going be charged.. but i dont know how much? coz could happen like was with XBTUSD last night on the site shows -0.0214%, but real charge was 0.1661% ..
[2016-08-19 14:59:47] nip : how often does BFX rebalance and release withheld profit?
[2016-08-19 15:01:48] macios15 : btc pump in the air
[2016-08-19 15:04:13] BitMEX_Greg : premjeraz: -0.0214% is the charge that is going to happen in 5 hours. It hasn't happened yet.
[2016-08-19 15:07:27] premjeraz : i know that
[2016-08-19 15:12:37] BitMEX_Greg : You were saying you don't know how much you are going to get charged
[2016-08-19 15:20:10] premjeraz : im saying because this rate at contrat detail are not represent real charge... like i sai there shows funding -0.0214, but i was charged -.01661%
[2016-08-19 15:20:50] premjeraz : . -0.1661%
[2016-08-19 15:21:56] BitMEX_Greg : premjeraz: Take a look at the funding history
[2016-08-19 15:22:04] BitMEX_Greg : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory
[2016-08-19 15:22:26] BitMEX_Greg : insert this `{"symbol":"XBTUSD"}` into the search box
[2016-08-19 15:23:03] BitMEX_Greg : 0.1661% was the funding rate at Timestamp 2016-08-19 00:00:00
[2016-08-19 15:23:23] BitMEX_Greg : Like i said, the rates are there for people to determine in ADVANCE.
[2016-08-19 15:23:58] BitMEX_Greg : You must have looked at the wrong number. Right now the charge will be -0.0214% in about 4.5 hours time
[2016-08-19 15:24:08] premjeraz : yes, i see that. but what im tryng to say, this one in contract detail is always -.0.0214% but when come to charge all time is defferent
[2016-08-19 15:24:17] BitMEX_Greg : No
[2016-08-19 15:24:21] BitMEX_Greg : It's not
[2016-08-19 15:24:25] BitMEX_Greg : You are mistaken
[2016-08-19 15:24:58] premjeraz : like its was with FCT, there ws showing 0.1189% in that, but real was sometingin 0.16xx%
[2016-08-19 15:26:29] premjeraz : ok. whatever... i see there trading in this platform not for me
[2016-08-19 15:26:35] BitMEX_Greg : premjeraz: I think you are confusing rates that happened several intervals prior to what is happening now.
[2016-08-19 15:27:30] BitMEX_Greg : This can be a slightly different concept to buying and selling spot, but with a few different elements
[2016-08-19 15:27:46] BitMEX_Greg : We have very thorough trading guides that we encourage everyone to read through prior to trading here
[2016-08-19 15:29:09] BitMEX_Greg : We have made the platform to be as simple and upfront for every user to see their total costs prior to submitting trades.
[2016-08-19 15:29:37] premjeraz : thanks
[2016-08-19 15:29:58] BitMEX_Greg : The difficulty you are experiencing is a matter of understanding, Take a read over the Swaps Guide first (https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide)
[2016-08-19 15:43:13] premjeraz : BitMEX_Greg: u here ?
[2016-08-19 15:43:25] premjeraz : a have another question
[2016-08-19 15:46:30] BitMEX_Greg : premjeraz: Yep am here, shoot
[2016-08-19 15:49:36] premjeraz : i shorted 2400 @ FCT contracts few mins before funding charge and was charged -0.1492 XBT
[2016-08-19 15:50:23] premjeraz : but
[2016-08-19 15:50:25] premjeraz : 2016-08-19 13:00:00 FCTXBT every 8 hours 0.1711%
[2016-08-19 15:51:59] Spofas : where dem ETC margin called shorts at?
[2016-08-19 15:52:16] premjeraz : 9 XBT * 0.1711% = ~0.016 XBT, not ~0.15 what i missed ?
[2016-08-19 15:54:58] BitMEX_Greg : what time did you short
[2016-08-19 15:56:49] BitMEX_Wally : You earnt 0.0156906 XBT from the funding
[2016-08-19 15:57:32] BitMEX_Wally : premjeraz: Have a look at the trade history for `Funding` https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-08-19 15:57:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 8179 @ 567.05
[2016-08-19 15:57:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7736 @ 566.66
[2016-08-19 15:57:45] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3 @ 566.09 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-19 15:57:45] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 18360 @ 566.36
[2016-08-19 15:57:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 932 @ 563.93
[2016-08-19 15:57:53] REKT : Blood on the streets!
[2016-08-19 15:57:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 563.95
[2016-08-19 15:57:53] macios15 : wtf
[2016-08-19 15:58:28] macios15 : what the fuck was that
[2016-08-19 16:01:15] macios15 : when kaiko adds bitfinex, this is some joke
[2016-08-19 16:02:14] premjeraz : BitMEX_Greg: 2016-08-19 12:55:16
[2016-08-19 16:02:47] BitMEX_Greg : premjeraz: yes mate?
[2016-08-19 16:03:19] premjeraz : BitMEX_Greg: there is timewhen i shorted
[2016-08-19 16:03:37] BitMEX_Greg : Take a look at your Trading History: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-08-19 16:04:07] premjeraz : BitMEX_Wally: if got from funding, what is that ? 2016-08-19 13:00:00 CashRebalance -0.1492 XBT -.-- FCTXBT Completed
[2016-08-19 16:04:09] BitMEX_Greg : You would have earnt funding as per Wally's msg earlier
[2016-08-19 16:04:52] BitMEX_Wally : premjeraz: That is your total PNL for the 24 hour period
[2016-08-19 16:05:28] BitMEX_Wally : The previous period, before the funding you're talking about
[2016-08-19 16:06:01] BitMEX_Wally : That's the PNL between your entry price and the rebalance price of 0.003821
[2016-08-19 16:06:52] BitMEX_Wally : Then the next rebalance (the pending one) is the PNL between 0.003821 and your exit price, or the current mark price
[2016-08-19 16:06:53] premjeraz : but that ws complited, but my FCT position wasnt closed
[2016-08-19 16:07:10] BitMEX_Wally : Correct, the position was not closed, but the profit and loss was realised and paid into your wallet
[2016-08-19 16:07:14] premjeraz : so i didnt lost that 0.16 XBT on funding ?
[2016-08-19 16:08:53] BitMEX_Wally : That funding of -0.0156906 has been paid to you and is included in the pending rebalance
[2016-08-19 16:09:35] BitMEX_Wally : Plus/minus any trading fees or realised PNL
[2016-08-19 16:09:44] BitMEX_Wally : Since the rebalance
[2016-08-19 16:10:42] premjeraz : ok, thank you.... now almost got it :) that rebalancing is mixed up everything
[2016-08-19 16:14:14] premjeraz : all this mixup/not knowing cost me 0.2btc :D was worse... i think good i didnt lost more
[2016-08-19 16:33:34] macios15 : delist bitstamp from index this is bullshit
[2016-08-19 16:35:12] I-am-Legend : hello
[2016-08-19 16:35:36] I-am-Legend : i just opened a trade why is it showing over 2btc profit in realized profits
[2016-08-19 16:41:05] I-am-Legend : new trade
[2016-08-19 16:41:19] I-am-Legend : is it showing profits from trade a week ago
[2016-08-19 16:50:12] BitMEX_Greg : Yes it shows the PNL you have accrued since inception
[2016-08-19 16:50:24] BitMEX_Greg : Hover over the figure and it will show you the PNL since the last rebalance
[2016-08-19 16:52:23] macios15 : BitMEX_Greg: i got liquidation, but index never hit that price
[2016-08-19 16:54:03] BitMEX_Greg : macios15: The price you see is your bankruptcy price
[2016-08-19 16:54:23] BitMEX_Greg : add back the initial margin and it will be somewhere in the lines of your liquidation price
[2016-08-19 16:54:50] nip : macios15: working as intended
[2016-08-19 16:57:41] macios15 : my liq price was 566.66 the index price wasnt lower than 566.85 basing the graph
[2016-08-19 16:57:57] BitMEX_Greg : Are you looking at the Mark Price or last traded price?
[2016-08-19 16:58:01] BitMEX_Greg : Liquidations are based on Mark Price
[2016-08-19 16:58:41] macios15 : .XBT line on graph purple one
[2016-08-19 16:59:41] macios15 : is there any mark price history other than graph?