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[2016-06-24 14:39:55] BitMEX_Sam : Most users won't have to know it's a yen contract, just that it settles on a daily converted rate
[2016-06-24 14:40:07] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: Agreed, would like to have more, but liquidity has been sparse for quite some time
[2016-06-24 14:40:25] Rado : hopefully it increases
[2016-06-24 14:40:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 9500 @ 662.29
[2016-06-24 14:40:36] BitMEX_Sam : 24H, 7D, and Swap have always traded one or two orders of magnitude more than the long-dated contracts
[2016-06-24 14:40:42] Rado : I make far more profit on the quantos compared to swap
[2016-06-24 14:40:51] rapidtrades : itMEX_Sam: Most users won't have to know it's a yen contract>>>> agree let's keep it our little secret
[2016-06-24 14:41:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 9776 @ 658.99
[2016-06-24 14:41:10] asdfman : mine^
[2016-06-24 14:41:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 700 @ 654.33
[2016-06-24 14:41:22] REKT : Getting chopped to death is fun, everyone should try it!
[2016-06-24 14:41:28] jung1 : wtf
[2016-06-24 14:41:48] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: I traded June and September and didn't have to worry about fundding
[2016-06-24 14:41:54] rapidtrades : china dumping again
[2016-06-24 14:42:15] RoftheN : Why is China dumping?>
[2016-06-24 14:42:27] jung1 : what a ride
[2016-06-24 14:42:40] rapidtrades : RoftheN: becos they're nuts
[2016-06-24 14:42:54] Rado : by the way BREXIT far from done deal
[2016-06-24 14:43:04] RoftheN : Guess I closed my long on the right momeny
[2016-06-24 14:43:06] Rado : I am sure there will be twists and turns
[2016-06-24 14:43:38] rapidtrades : its a done deal
[2016-06-24 14:43:51] Rado : also if you think about it BTC was higher pre BREXIT than now
[2016-06-24 14:44:10] Rado : sell off prior to the referendum was bigger than the pump after
[2016-06-24 14:44:27] rapidtrades : that's cos brexit doesn't matter for BTC
[2016-06-24 14:44:46] Rado : what did you think drove the price to $780 then?
[2016-06-24 14:44:54] RoftheN : Halving, China
[2016-06-24 14:44:57] justinlooking : fomo
[2016-06-24 14:44:59] Skitrx : halving
[2016-06-24 14:45:13] jung1 : bot on bitmex
[2016-06-24 14:45:16] Rado : if it's halving then it should be going back to new highs
[2016-06-24 14:45:18] rapidtrades : halving yes
[2016-06-24 14:45:29] Rado : halving still happening
[2016-06-24 14:45:37] jung1 : imo halving pump will be after halving if everything will be ok
[2016-06-24 14:45:43] rapidtrades : Rado: well markets are inefficient but not THAT MUCH
[2016-06-24 14:46:16] Rado : personally looking at the charts I have no idea what comes next
[2016-06-24 14:46:17] rapidtrades : u can't expect it to go up right until the day of halvening...at some point its priced in
[2016-06-24 14:46:57] songxf : Hv questions on how to calculate XBTUSD's funding
[2016-06-24 14:47:50] songxf : I see that the funding was chareged for long posiiton is 0.1442% at 12:00 HKT
[2016-06-24 14:48:14] songxf : guess this is the funding calculated from 04:00, right?
[2016-06-24 14:48:30] BitMEX_Wally : The funding was calculated from 20:00 to 04:00 and then charged at 12:00
[2016-06-24 14:48:37] BitMEX_Wally : There is always 8 hours notice of the funding rate
[2016-06-24 14:49:07] songxf : right. And then if I look at the premius index at 04:00, it's -0.5441
[2016-06-24 14:50:04] songxf : can not really link -0.5441% to 0.1442%
[2016-06-24 14:50:08] BitMEX_Wally : The previous funding was 0.5192%
[2016-06-24 14:50:19] BitMEX_Wally : and it cannot change by more than 75% of MM i.e. 0.375%
[2016-06-24 14:51:37] songxf : what is MM?
[2016-06-24 14:51:56] BitMEX_Wally : Maintenance Margin
[2016-06-24 14:52:14] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#funding-rate
[2016-06-24 14:54:27] songxf : I see. and https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBTUSDPI8H
[2016-06-24 14:54:33] rapidtrades : any bremain metldowns on utube yet?
[2016-06-24 14:54:39] songxf : is this the index for funding or index for premium?
[2016-06-24 14:54:46] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2016-06-24 14:55:18] jung1 : Next james bond will just be him spending 2hours in passport control at De Gaulle
[2016-06-24 14:55:30] elmorte : Lol
[2016-06-24 14:55:52] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-06-24 14:56:46] songxf : BitMEX_Wally: Funding Rate = ( Quote Index - Funding Base index) which is also capped at premium + 0.05% and floored at premium - 0.05%. This means that funding rate should be different from premium index, right?
[2016-06-24 14:57:55] songxf : but how come the previous funding 0.5192 is the same as the premium rate?
[2016-06-24 14:59:44] jung1 : ok go back to 4400
[2016-06-24 15:00:03] Skitrx : looks like its going down
[2016-06-24 15:00:31] BitMEX_Wally : songxf: That 0.05% change came into effect at 12:00 UTC today
[2016-06-24 15:01:31] songxf : so previously you just use the premium index as funding rate, right?
[2016-06-24 15:02:30] BitMEX_Wally : Previously if premium index was positive we took the larger of premium index and quote-base
[2016-06-24 15:02:47] BitMEX_Wally : And if premium index was negative we took the lesser of premium index and quote-base
[2016-06-24 15:03:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 533 @ 650.41
[2016-06-24 15:03:12] BitMEX_Wally : But this led to a step-function when the premium index went slightly negative
[2016-06-24 15:03:49] asdfman : jung1: denied
[2016-06-24 15:03:50] Rado : This guy thinks we are going to $480
[2016-06-24 15:03:52] Rado : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/44Zy3Gr0-Tighten-seat-belts/
[2016-06-24 15:04:31] tscha : random trader drawing random lines
[2016-06-24 15:04:54] Rado : lol
[2016-06-24 15:04:56] Rado : probably
[2016-06-24 15:05:11] Rado : everything is possible though
[2016-06-24 15:05:15] songxf : @BitMEX_Wally got it.
[2016-06-24 15:05:54] BitMEX_Wally : songxf: I'm heading to bed now, I've been up for 20 hours due to Brexit and Bitcoin volatility :)
[2016-06-24 15:06:04] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: :)
[2016-06-24 15:06:24] BitMEX_Wally : I am sorely disappointed with my fellow Britons
[2016-06-24 15:06:25] songxf : BitMEX_Wally: Have a good night. It's a long day for me as well:)
[2016-06-24 15:06:55] tscha : arthur partying, wally sad... internal bitmex crisis
[2016-06-24 15:06:56] rapidtrades : i took a 2h nap earlier....feel as good as new
[2016-06-24 15:07:06] tscha : good night @ BitMEX_Wally
[2016-06-24 15:07:14] BitMEX_Wally : British citizen in a foreign country = expat. Foreigner in Britain = immigrant. Sad really
[2016-06-24 15:07:33] tscha : indeed
[2016-06-24 15:07:34] Rado : lol
[2016-06-24 15:07:36] Rado : so true
[2016-06-24 15:07:42] BitMEX_Wally : If Bitcoin goes to $1000 then I'll party
[2016-06-24 15:07:44] rapidtrades : you'll feel better once u sleep it off walster
[2016-06-24 15:07:50] donchard : no new quanto why
[2016-06-24 15:07:54] BitMEX_Wally : Brexit has failed to deliver the goods
[2016-06-24 15:08:06] rapidtrades : lol? its day 1
[2016-06-24 15:09:03] Rado : BitMEX_Wally: personally I think there should be no borders, but no central government either
[2016-06-24 15:09:06] rapidtrades : you'll sleep much better without the yolk of the EU choking you
[2016-06-24 15:09:10] donchard : no new quanto contract after june expiry
[2016-06-24 15:09:18] rapidtrades : yes...
[2016-06-24 15:09:29] donchard : why
[2016-06-24 15:09:41] rapidtrades : they killed it
[2016-06-24 15:09:41] Rado : donchard: not enough volume per BitMEX
[2016-06-24 15:09:46] rapidtrades : NOT TRUE
[2016-06-24 15:09:58] rapidtrades : they know say lack of mm
[2016-06-24 15:10:14] rapidtrades : previously they wanted to see 100 BTC per day
[2016-06-24 15:10:24] sq : where u guys think btc is going from here
[2016-06-24 15:10:31] donchard : to much changes
[2016-06-24 15:11:19] sq : up or down
[2016-06-24 15:11:38] elmorte : yes
[2016-06-24 15:11:53] tscha : I agree with elmorte
[2016-06-24 15:12:52] Rado : lol
[2016-06-24 15:13:01] Rado : up, down or flat
[2016-06-24 15:13:23] Rado : I can tell you one way to trade it
[2016-06-24 15:13:25] luckynuke : back to 600?
[2016-06-24 15:13:34] Rado : buy Sep long and short swap with tight stop
[2016-06-24 15:14:13] Rado : then with profit from swap buy more sept
[2016-06-24 15:14:17] Rado : lol
[2016-06-24 15:14:26] asdfman : so you selling sep? ;)
[2016-06-24 15:15:13] Rado : no
[2016-06-24 15:15:35] QuantFocus : nobody is selling sept, so that strat is difficult to execute
[2016-06-24 15:16:24] Rado : PBOC’S ZHOU SAYS GLOBAL COOPERATION NEEDED TO DEAL WITH BREXIT
[2016-06-24 15:16:33] asdfman : looool
[2016-06-24 15:16:37] rapidtrades : mm finally back in GBP pairs
[2016-06-24 15:16:42] asdfman : that would be CITY OF LONDON
[2016-06-24 15:16:57] asdfman : CROWN CORPORATION
[2016-06-24 15:17:05] rapidtrades : ZHOU can suck it
[2016-06-24 15:18:01] asdfman : pope needs to fix this shit
[2016-06-24 15:18:09] asdfman : ungodly event
[2016-06-24 15:18:34] asdfman : maybe he can get help from his god Lucifer
[2016-06-24 15:19:08] asdfman : do some circlejerk with aisdficans without condoms
[2016-06-24 15:19:16] asdfman : aidsfricans
[2016-06-24 15:19:33] asdfman : EAT THE COOKIE, FRANCIS
[2016-06-24 15:19:39] asdfman : EAT IT
[2016-06-24 15:20:17] rullwull : xbj mark price jumps between 65000 to 71000, wtf
[2016-06-24 15:20:25] asdfman : Dear old SPIRITUAL WHITE BOY can suck some big aids-cock
[2016-06-24 15:20:34] rullwull : is it your fair price?
[2016-06-24 15:31:15] BitMEX_Sam : rullwull: We have disabled the impactMid pricing on XBJ for now, liquidity changes were causing swings
[2016-06-24 15:31:18] BitMEX_Sam : Mark price is stable now.
[2016-06-24 15:32:00] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: why XBJ instead of XBY?
[2016-06-24 15:32:07] BitMEX_Sam : JPY
[2016-06-24 15:32:54] rullwull : now its mark is much higher than quoine, hope it would be stable
[2016-06-24 15:35:28] Rado : sorry I got confused
[2016-06-24 15:36:40] rullwull : now it dropped again, nothing stable
[2016-06-24 15:37:15] rullwull : and now back up)
[2016-06-24 15:37:36] rullwull : very big fluctuation
[2016-06-24 15:37:58] BitMEX_Sam : rullwull: We are seeing bad data from Quoine's API
[2016-06-24 15:38:01] BitMEX_Sam : Investigating now
[2016-06-24 15:38:19] rullwull : more than 10%
[2016-06-24 15:38:21] rullwull : ok
[2016-06-24 15:39:38] rullwull : btw im ok if you keep a high price)
[2016-06-24 15:40:08] BitMEX_Sam : Their ticker appears to be returning a last price that fluctuates as much as 2000 yen, whether or not there was a trade
[2016-06-24 15:40:17] BitMEX_Sam : We are switching to another endpoint that is not broken
[2016-06-24 15:42:04] rullwull : ok
[2016-06-24 15:43:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 250 @ 647.62
[2016-06-24 15:43:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1001 @ 647.48
[2016-06-24 15:46:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 855 @ 646.35
[2016-06-24 15:47:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 645.67
[2016-06-24 15:47:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 250 @ 644.91
[2016-06-24 15:47:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 @ 645.21
[2016-06-24 15:47:22] REKT : :btc: :soon: :toilet:
[2016-06-24 15:47:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 40 @ 642.36
[2016-06-24 15:47:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 @ 642.26
[2016-06-24 15:48:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4000 @ 639.55
[2016-06-24 15:48:20] Rado : taking profits from last day pump
[2016-06-24 15:48:22] luckynuke : loool
[2016-06-24 15:48:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 35833 @ 638.75 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-24 15:48:29] luckynuke : til626
[2016-06-24 15:48:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 637.44
[2016-06-24 15:48:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 637.69
[2016-06-24 15:48:41] ayy_lmao : lmao
[2016-06-24 15:48:42] ayy_lmao : $
[2016-06-24 15:48:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7500 @ 636.62
[2016-06-24 15:48:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 635.47
[2016-06-24 15:49:34] Rado : where is support gentlemen?
[2016-06-24 15:49:56] macios15 : 3000-3100?
[2016-06-24 15:50:04] tscha : back to pre-brexit levels hahaha
[2016-06-24 15:51:34] Rado : you guys are not helping
[2016-06-24 15:51:39] Rado : :-)
[2016-06-24 15:51:47] Rado : remove the fear
[2016-06-24 15:51:59] Rado : that's why there are stop orders
[2016-06-24 15:53:02] macios15 : we can retest 4k again lol
[2016-06-24 15:53:11] Rado : 4k yes
[2016-06-24 15:53:23] Rado : 3k will be really bad
[2016-06-24 15:53:38] jung1 : why?
[2016-06-24 15:54:03] Rado : uptrend will be damaged
[2016-06-24 15:54:41] Rado : I love making BTC trading, but I am big believer in BTC and want to see it at $10k
[2016-06-24 15:55:00] luckynuke : Rado: uptrend isnt broken
[2016-06-24 15:55:00] luckynuke : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCCNY/DZ2vNhmU-BTC-CNY-Okcoin-Long-term-view/
[2016-06-24 15:55:15] tscha : LOL
[2016-06-24 15:55:18] Rado : luckynuke: at 3000 CNY will be
[2016-06-24 15:55:24] Rado : that is what I was referring to
[2016-06-24 15:55:29] jung1 : put link with "ok coin"
[2016-06-24 15:56:45] Rado : I am glad I sold some of my Sep at 850
[2016-06-24 15:57:19] jung1 : 2200
[2016-06-24 15:57:20] jung1 : here we go
[2016-06-24 15:57:27] Rado : 2200?
[2016-06-24 15:57:28] jung1 : 4200
[2016-06-24 15:57:32] Rado : lol
[2016-06-24 15:57:36] luckynuke : lol
[2016-06-24 15:58:01] Rado : I will take a break as well
[2016-06-24 15:58:04] Rado : see ya guys later
[2016-06-24 15:58:13] asdfman : Look at 30min
[2016-06-24 15:58:19] asdfman : its gonna puke
[2016-06-24 15:58:24] asdfman : bleed red
[2016-06-24 15:58:55] jung1 : Rado: 2200 its not impossible heh
[2016-06-24 15:59:09] Rado : 0 is also possible
[2016-06-24 15:59:22] men : ethereum on polo has formed cup and handle like bitcoin xD
[2016-06-24 15:59:31] Rado : but the probability is very low
[2016-06-24 15:59:44] men : Rado: yeah it's not impossibile , but the chanche are very low
[2016-06-24 16:00:01] Rado : men: that is one weird handle
[2016-06-24 16:00:16] men : Rado: so much weird :D
[2016-06-24 16:00:34] macios15 : china is sleeping, they always dump at night
[2016-06-24 16:01:08] jung1 : damn look at 6h chart. We are going straight to 3000
[2016-06-24 16:01:31] jung1 : and looks like wally 2.0
[2016-06-24 16:03:52] asdfman : like a zigg-zagg back down?
[2016-06-24 16:05:06] luckynuke : no trades now just watching
[2016-06-24 16:05:16] jung1 : yeah
[2016-06-24 16:05:54] luckynuke : maybe a huge W if we get a retrace to 560
[2016-06-24 16:12:13] asdfman : anybody wanna eat the 645 wall?
[2016-06-24 16:12:40] asdfman : lol
[2016-06-24 16:13:23] elmorte : 20k? that's not even a brick :p
[2016-06-24 16:14:10] asdfman : ah had grouping on
[2016-06-24 16:14:22] asdfman : almost 45k
[2016-06-24 16:20:01] ayy_lmao : bitcoin destroying livrs again
[2016-06-24 16:20:10] ayy_lmao : double banga
[2016-06-24 16:20:38] luckynuke : W is incomming look at 3h chart and buy now
[2016-06-24 16:42:57] rullwull : 3h?
[2016-06-24 17:14:26] jung1 : The EU now has 1 GB of free space
[2016-06-24 17:17:21] CryptoWealth : If BitMex were to have a perpetual non expiring contract with zero swap fees they would take a huge market share of trading volume
[2016-06-24 17:17:52] CryptoWealth : A model that punishes longs doesn't seem very balanced
[2016-06-24 17:18:16] Adura_ : What incentive would there be for sellers?
[2016-06-24 17:19:09] Yumi : funding fee was proven necessary to keep price of swap close to index of spot prices
[2016-06-24 17:19:29] BitMEX_Sam : If there were no funding fees there would be no reason for the swap to trade near spot, aside from mark price.
[2016-06-24 17:19:45] BitMEX_Sam : See e.g. coinpit which tried this and had massive problems
[2016-06-24 17:20:15] CryptoWealth : I always associated the high premium to long expiring contracts
[2016-06-24 17:20:31] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, what the funding rate does is essentially emulate a future of any length
[2016-06-24 17:20:39] BitMEX_Sam : You pay or receive the basis daily rather than all at once
[2016-06-24 17:20:49] BitMEX_Sam : And the premium index more or less simulates basis swings
[2016-06-24 17:20:53] Yumi : and it works both ways, so longs actually got paid last funding period
[2016-06-24 17:21:22] BitMEX_Sam : Which you would expect on a long-dated future - sometimes basis increases, sometimes it decreases. It can swing quite a bit especially with recent events
[2016-06-24 17:22:47] CryptoWealth : since these are synthetic contracts, why not allow regular dollar/BTC buying/selling/hedging, which would keep prices closer to spot. You could still make it BTC withdrawal/deposit only
[2016-06-24 17:23:19] CryptoWealth : and it would simplify calculations
[2016-06-24 17:24:20] CryptoWealth : offer the exact style of trading as Bitfinex, except with higher leverage and zero swap fees
[2016-06-24 17:24:33] BitMEX_Sam : We would need to take USD to do that
[2016-06-24 17:25:13] CryptoWealth : because of regulations?
[2016-06-24 17:25:37] BitMEX_Sam : No, because if you buy a Bitcoin with a Bitcoin, what do you have?
[2016-06-24 17:26:29] BitMEX_Sam : We are however thinking of ways to use the swap to issue novel types of products
[2016-06-24 17:26:35] CryptoWealth : the exact same thing as buying bitcoin on margin while holding bitcoin in one's Bitfinex deposit account
[2016-06-24 17:27:03] BitMEX_Sam : You buy that Bitcoin with USD.
[2016-06-24 17:27:14] CryptoWealth : true
[2016-06-24 17:31:40] CryptoWealth : valid points, I can see why you've been playing with different models
[2016-06-24 17:32:34] Adura_ : A derivative that tracks average fee per block...!
[2016-06-24 17:32:52] CryptoWealth : it was a good idea to consolidate all the BTC trading under one contract... the order books seems to have more liquidity now
[2016-06-24 17:33:03] CryptoWealth : *book
[2016-06-24 17:33:28] CryptoWealth : maybe more people got tired of Glitchfinex after that last train wreck
[2016-06-24 17:33:45] CryptoWealth : "perfect" timing
[2016-06-24 17:36:44] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah it really is not an easy problem, but be sure we're thinking about it all the time.
[2016-06-24 17:36:55] CryptoWealth : and I guess rewarding shorters makes sense since the underlying dollar value of BTC falls
[2016-06-24 17:36:58] BitMEX_Sam : We have some new products that will be built on top of the swap that will be quite interesting
[2016-06-24 17:37:18] CryptoWealth : I do like that it's a BTC only exchange
[2016-06-24 17:37:30] Adura_ : I like it just fine.
[2016-06-24 17:37:37] BitMEX_Sam : Paying shorts is how shorts receive basis. Much like how you would short a quarterly and buy spot
[2016-06-24 17:37:50] CryptoWealth : true
[2016-06-24 17:38:15] CryptoWealth : valid points, that clarifies things
[2016-06-24 17:39:08] Adura_ : A derivative on the average fee per transaction would be useful for profiting off of block size max changes.
[2016-06-24 17:39:39] Adura_ : It'd be Bitcoin-only, as well. No other currency involved.
[2016-06-24 17:42:41] Adura_ : Rebalancing would be based on amount of blocks, rather than time, even.
[2016-06-24 17:43:22] Adura_ : Profit off of Blockstream's continued strangling of Core by longing the instrument.
[2016-06-24 17:47:15] BitMEX_Sam : Would be interesting, I agree, if it were liquid
[2016-06-24 17:47:29] BitMEX_Sam : Could be a nice experiment.
[2016-06-24 17:47:39] BitMEX_Sam : We can list just about anything we have data for, and we have that data
[2016-06-24 17:47:58] Adura_ : The unit of value would be the average fees for a block from the last... x blocks.
[2016-06-24 17:48:43] Adura_ : There are probably other Bitcoin-specific metrics you could use, but it seems like the only way Bitcoin the network values Bitcoin the currency.
[2016-06-24 17:48:48] Adura_ : Other than block rewards...
[2016-06-24 17:49:37] Adura_ : Miners could hedge with the instrument.
[2016-06-24 17:51:12] justinlooking : is everyone bearish?
[2016-06-24 17:55:53] tscha : i am bullish
[2016-06-24 18:01:01] asdfman : test
[2016-06-24 18:01:17] asdfman1 : cool feature
[2016-06-24 18:01:18] justinlooking : cool. me too
[2016-06-24 18:03:01] justinlooking : the fib tool on the chart is so gay
[2016-06-24 18:07:28] justinlooking : not enough xbtusd data for this to be meaningful, but example: https://www.tradingview.com/x/lGGuzxyg
[2016-06-24 18:07:41] asdfman : lol how can i take away MDAC from the chart? got of them up now. clearly bugged
[2016-06-24 18:09:35] asdfman : huobi down?
[2016-06-24 18:11:07] justinlooking : yes asdfman: "Please wait while the upgrade is nearing completion."
[2016-06-24 18:12:36] asdfman : thanks
[2016-06-24 18:13:33] asdfman : announced downtime?
[2016-06-24 18:16:19] justinlooking : not to my knowledge
[2016-06-24 18:18:13] asdfman : "upgrade" :P
[2016-06-24 18:19:53] asdfman : sites like this should have seamless upgrades...
[2016-06-24 18:24:43] asdfman : fuck me, this is going to go more up
[2016-06-24 18:29:30] asdfman : 30k short and going out. really dislike this
[2016-06-24 18:32:10] macios15 : they made moon on huobi
[2016-06-24 18:32:11] jung1 : http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/24/top-eu-leader-we-want-britain-out-as-soon-as-possible cant wait when people from english will come to ue as economic immigrants couse of rise prices in whole uk
[2016-06-24 18:38:05] justinlooking : jung1: anywhere u recommend
[2016-06-24 18:47:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 30000 @ 657.80 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-24 18:48:19] macios15 : HODL!
[2016-06-24 18:54:39] jung1 : justinlooking: portugal
[2016-06-24 18:54:48] jung1 : if you earn money on bitmex
[2016-06-24 18:54:51] jung1 : great place to live
[2016-06-24 18:56:11] Adura_ : https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eQVNBmJUSuY/V21vQk1hnII/AAAAAAAAC3M/cYVBn1tQ_B0j-Iw0O2WQF3vpTMzLGEvCgCLcB/s1600/Brit+pepe+09.jpg
[2016-06-24 19:04:45] zanza : heh
[2016-06-24 19:05:12] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Sam: i'm sure you'd pick up a ton of market share if it weren't for the US based restrictions
[2016-06-24 19:05:24] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Sam: just too difficult with AML/KYC?
[2016-06-24 19:05:28] BitMEX_Sam : I'm sure it would help but at significant cost.
[2016-06-24 19:05:50] QuantFocus : in terms of licensing/business registration?
[2016-06-24 19:06:10] BitMEX_Sam : And the ongoing process of validating each change we wish to make to the platform
[2016-06-24 19:06:30] Skitrx : whats going on with Huobi :/
[2016-06-24 19:06:42] QuantFocus : ahh
[2016-06-24 19:06:47] Skitrx : oh nvm
[2016-06-24 19:06:53] zanza : low vol ?
[2016-06-24 19:13:23] RoftheN : Does anyone have beginner tips?
[2016-06-24 19:15:15] Adura_ : Have a lot of Bitcoin.
[2016-06-24 19:19:05] RoftheN : Got any better tips?
[2016-06-24 19:22:15] macios15 : dont long the top
[2016-06-24 19:24:33] Rune : don't short the bottom
[2016-06-24 19:28:32] RoftheN : Where's the bottom where's the top?
[2016-06-24 19:28:48] BitMEX_Sam : Use your imagination.
[2016-06-24 19:30:06] Rune : @RoftheN making money is not easy
[2016-06-24 19:30:14] RoftheN : :(
[2016-06-24 19:30:20] RoftheN : But butt I want easy money
[2016-06-24 19:30:40] Rune : yesterday was profitable
[2016-06-24 19:30:48] Rune : longing in the brexit
[2016-06-24 19:31:00] Rune : that was easy money
[2016-06-24 19:31:18] Rune : trading today so far is just gambling seems to me
[2016-06-24 19:32:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 470 @ 665.05
[2016-06-24 19:33:47] RoftheN : Damn it I ended my long too early
[2016-06-24 19:34:05] RoftheN : How am I gonna become a millionaire through this
[2016-06-24 19:34:25] Rune : depends
[2016-06-24 19:34:31] Rune : how much capital you have
[2016-06-24 19:34:53] macios15 : first send me 100k then i will tell u
[2016-06-24 19:35:00] Rune : haha
[2016-06-24 19:35:34] Rune : if you only have 1 or10 bitcoins have to take rmore risk to make a lot
[2016-06-24 19:35:51] Rune : the more you have the less risk you can take
[2016-06-24 19:37:41] RoftheN : I have like 15 bitcoins on total, but only like 1 on this website
[2016-06-24 19:38:03] RoftheN : how to triple my bitcoin?
[2016-06-24 19:38:03] Rune : 15 is not to bad to start with
[2016-06-24 19:38:37] Rune : margain trading is good when it is easy
[2016-06-24 19:38:43] Rune : like the brexit thing
[2016-06-24 19:38:47] Rune : easy long
[2016-06-24 19:38:49] RoftheN : What about the Reward Halving
[2016-06-24 19:38:54] RoftheN : did that pump already happen
[2016-06-24 19:38:59] RoftheN : Or will it happen
[2016-06-24 19:39:01] RoftheN : soon
[2016-06-24 19:39:23] Rune : thats hard to say because bitcoin already went up in anticipation of it
[2016-06-24 19:39:28] RoftheN : Exactly
[2016-06-24 19:39:29] Rune : but it could go up more
[2016-06-24 19:39:35] RoftheN : but then it went down because of bitfinex
[2016-06-24 19:39:37] Rune : it's undecided
[2016-06-24 19:39:40] RoftheN : So I guess a second pump is possible
[2016-06-24 19:39:56] Rune : I am betting on it will pump more
[2016-06-24 19:40:04] Rune : myself
[2016-06-24 19:41:03] RoftheN : So what leverage should I use?
[2016-06-24 19:41:15] Rune : lower to start
[2016-06-24 19:41:18] macios15 : chop chop chop
[2016-06-24 19:41:21] Rune : so you can get used to it
[2016-06-24 19:41:56] Rune : the mark price is not the bitmex market price
[2016-06-24 19:42:02] Rune : it's the spot price
[2016-06-24 19:42:03] RoftheN : But I think if it's TOO low it would be a waste of the upcoming pump
[2016-06-24 19:42:20] Rune : I got called on a big order because I was confused on that before
[2016-06-24 19:42:46] RoftheN : Mark Price is exactly the spot Price
[2016-06-24 19:42:59] RoftheN : So why is the Bitmex price sometimes 10 behind?
[2016-06-24 19:43:21] Rune : because people on here expect it to not go up more
[2016-06-24 19:43:32] Rune : they show how they feel with there money
[2016-06-24 19:43:59] Rune : when bitcoin was really pumping we where 10$ premium
[2016-06-24 19:44:04] Rune : over the price
[2016-06-24 19:44:11] Rune : becuse every one want to be long
[2016-06-24 19:44:11] RoftheN : Ooh okay
[2016-06-24 19:44:18] RoftheN : Makes sense
[2016-06-24 19:46:00] RoftheN : Then one more question. So I put a x15 long margin yesterday before Brexit. But after my long, it went down at first, but then it went up a lot because brexit. But over night the leverage became a lot less and my profit was minimal
[2016-06-24 19:46:12] RoftheN : Why?
[2016-06-24 19:46:52] Rune : where did you buy where did you sell and how many contracts
[2016-06-24 19:47:59] Rune : I dont see how that would happen
[2016-06-24 19:49:04] QuantFocus : RoftheN: are you sure you aren't checking your realized PNL column?
[2016-06-24 19:49:24] QuantFocus : RoftheN: xbt/usd rebalances daily and realizes p/l based on mark
[2016-06-24 19:49:48] RoftheN : I'm not sure
[2016-06-24 19:49:58] QuantFocus : if you made profit, you unrealized column would go down, based on the new 'entry price', and your margin would appear lower as now you have more xbt in your balance
[2016-06-24 19:50:21] QuantFocus : well if you look at the 'positions' tab, the far right column is realized pnl
[2016-06-24 19:50:23] RoftheN : ooh okay
[2016-06-24 19:50:29] RoftheN : makes sense
[2016-06-24 19:50:50] QuantFocus : you can also check this in the account section of the site
[2016-06-24 19:51:37] mbaril : loll is it a bot that just bring the price to 673
[2016-06-24 19:51:38] mbaril : :P
[2016-06-24 19:51:52] Bora : wow
[2016-06-24 19:52:59] mbaril : and in 7 min he will need to paid funding :p
[2016-06-24 19:53:00] mbaril : ahahah
[2016-06-24 19:56:51] mbaril : so calm today on the trollbox
[2016-06-24 19:58:30] Rune : wish I could order chinese food with bitcoin
[2016-06-24 20:03:40] Rune : I googled chinese food bitcoins and I ran into a funny story on reddit
[2016-06-24 20:06:44] nip : Why do you charge higher fees for China A50?
[2016-06-24 20:06:59] RoftheN : In my country there's a website that let's you order food at almost every restraurant with bitcoins and other payment methods
[2016-06-24 20:07:02] nip : seems like you would want lower fees if anything to help promote it
[2016-06-24 20:11:59] rapidtrades : good f*Cking evening fellas
[2016-06-24 20:12:03] rapidtrades : i ate, i napped
[2016-06-24 20:12:07] RoftheN : This Withheld profit is interesting. WIll I get that some day?
[2016-06-24 20:12:13] rapidtrades : i feel like a human being again
[2016-06-24 20:13:15] rapidtrades : https://uk.news.yahoo.com/boris-buffoon-become-prime-minister-081802365.html
[2016-06-24 20:14:00] rapidtrades : RoftheN: what country is that
[2016-06-24 20:14:23] RoftheN : The Netherlands
[2016-06-24 20:15:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 750 @ 68904.0
[2016-06-24 20:16:13] rapidtrades : RoftheN: sweed
[2016-06-24 20:26:37] QuantFocus : rapidtrades: welcome back buddy
[2016-06-24 20:33:03] rapidtrades : QuantFocus: tnx
[2016-06-24 20:45:48] donchard : pls how to place stop
[2016-06-24 20:48:22] rapidtrades : pick from the menu...stop limit, stop marketetc
[2016-06-24 20:48:58] donchard : okay i have done that
[2016-06-24 20:54:40] rapidtrades : yikes...forex spreads exploding
[2016-06-24 20:54:49] rapidtrades : noone wants to hold over the weekend
[2016-06-24 21:05:52] nip : anyone want to open a position in one of the low volume contracts?
[2016-06-24 21:14:55] zanza : why?
[2016-06-24 21:31:54] nip : to get more action going
[2016-06-24 21:32:04] nip : today is slow
[2016-06-24 21:53:36] BitMEX_Sam : So happy to announce we finally now show the full orderbook when fullscreened
[2016-06-24 21:53:50] BitMEX_Sam : We just completed a rework of the underlying realtime data that makes this possible.
[2016-06-24 21:54:21] BitMEX_Sam : This also will significantly reduce the bandwidth used by the site while it is open.
[2016-06-24 22:06:12] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Sam: excellent! is there a new format for websocket orderbook stream?
[2016-06-24 22:06:44] BitMEX_Sam : miramm1115: Yes - see the orderBookL2 stream, and GET /orderBook/L2
[2016-06-24 22:06:58] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Sam: nice, thanks!
[2016-06-24 22:08:10] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Sam: finally full L2 stream, very cool!
[2016-06-24 22:08:31] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, we've had it for some time in fact but it took a while to integrate.
[2016-06-24 22:08:40] BitMEX_Sam : The existing `orderBook` stream is the same data but less efficiently diffed.
[2016-06-24 22:09:38] miramm1115 : oh, does it still have multiple orders with the same price combined?
[2016-06-24 22:12:00] BitMEX_Sam : Yes
[2016-06-24 22:12:37] miramm1115 : ok, still good but as exciting :wink:
[2016-06-24 22:14:21] miramm1115 : *but not as exciting
[2016-06-24 22:16:22] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Sam: could you please update API Changelog when you have some time?
[2016-06-24 22:16:53] BitMEX_Sam : Ah yes, I see that never made it in. I'll add it.
[2016-06-24 22:18:41] miramm1115 : thanks!
[2016-06-24 22:31:37] rapidtrades : bull or bear fellas?
[2016-06-24 22:38:42] sq : bull
[2016-06-24 22:38:44] sq : what u think
[2016-06-24 22:48:52] ziggy420 : so long as ETH is over $14 USD, the market is too irrational
[2016-06-24 22:52:50] rapidtrades : i had to dump my eth/btc short at 23 to free up margin
[2016-06-24 22:53:18] icocountdown : hello
[2016-06-24 22:53:21] rapidtrades : i'll prolly get back in if we trade above it
[2016-06-24 23:18:26] RoftheN : Why is Bitcoin so fucking stable?
[2016-06-24 23:20:31] luckynuke : china is tired
[2016-06-24 23:20:43] justinlooking : whales made sleep pact
[2016-06-24 23:22:05] subjective : Got stopped out at 635, BFX never reach that low..
[2016-06-24 23:22:16] RoftheN : Sleep pact to buy more?
[2016-06-24 23:23:47] hashman : what happened to the order book layout?
[2016-06-24 23:24:03] hashman : oh nvm
[2016-06-24 23:24:21] hashman : single/dual now - got it
[2016-06-24 23:35:23] RoftheN : What do you guys think about Segwit?
[2016-06-24 23:35:59] luckynuke : RoftheN: tell me
[2016-06-24 23:36:08] RoftheN : Tell you what?
[2016-06-24 23:36:36] luckynuke : RoftheN: more about segwit. i didn´t understand it
[2016-06-24 23:37:15] RoftheN : https://bitcoincore.org/en/2016/06/24/segwit-next-steps/ Did you read this yet?
[2016-06-24 23:38:23] RoftheN : And else this: https://bitcoincore.org/en/2016/01/26/segwit-benefits/
[2016-06-24 23:44:27] rapidtrades : guys
[2016-06-24 23:48:35] luckynuke : Breakout ? https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCCNY/zVZKdtsY-Bitcoin-Breakout-next-days/
[2016-06-25 00:06:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2902 @ 667.74
[2016-06-25 00:13:09] wotan : nice upward last hours btc
[2016-06-25 00:13:38] rapidtrades : nice upward indeed
[2016-06-25 00:16:54] rapidtrades : funding 0.0002%
[2016-06-25 00:17:04] rapidtrades : bullz and bears are friendz now
[2016-06-25 00:17:33] rapidtrades : 24h volume 9 mil...nice change for mexeers
[2016-06-25 00:19:22] boolander : bow chikka wow wow
[2016-06-25 00:20:00] rapidtrades : boolander: sup
[2016-06-25 00:21:59] boolander : nada goin on but the rent
[2016-06-25 00:22:44] boolander : le coinage rally seems stumped. wonder if my brothers from other mothers across the border tonight can push us on thru to the other side of $700
[2016-06-25 00:23:28] boolander : how did your fx day end rapid?
[2016-06-25 00:26:04] rapidtrades : it was decent...made over 1,000 pips on brexit...
[2016-06-25 00:26:32] rapidtrades : bastards knocked me out of a few trades right before it tho....on that giant never ending rally
[2016-06-25 00:27:23] rapidtrades : in retrospect pricing out 100% brexit was a BAAAAD call...but u can't fix stupid
[2016-06-25 00:28:03] rapidtrades : even before the voting bettors still gave it a 25% chance....far from a sure win for remain...yet they kept rallying like morans
[2016-06-25 00:29:14] rapidtrades : markets haven't had so many stupid stupid actors in long time...i blame QE
[2016-06-25 00:29:57] rapidtrades : too many morans made tons of money with 0 skill....we need another 08 type culling
[2016-06-25 00:31:32] rapidtrades : boolander: anyway how did ur day go lol
[2016-06-25 00:36:44] boolander : niice. gold & mining stocks traded up and took short-term profits was it. all bitcorn gains were pretty much pre-brexit and took my gross down and reduced leverage. see how the dust starts settling over the weekend. close eye on ZH for those "bankers work all weekend to fix their VAR after getting rekt" headlines. ;-)
[2016-06-25 00:59:55] songxf : BitMEX_Sam: Hey are you still here?
[2016-06-25 01:00:10] songxf : How do I get the current funding rate?
[2016-06-25 01:02:24] songxf : @BitMEX_Sam
[2016-06-25 01:02:39] chromaticcr1 : bottom left
[2016-06-25 01:03:19] chromaticcr1 : if it is positive, long pays, short receive. Vice versa for negative
[2016-06-25 01:03:22] songxf : Thx @chromaticcr1 but that number is different than https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory
[2016-06-25 01:03:31] songxf : ( I am looking at XBTUSD)
[2016-06-25 01:03:58] chromaticcr1 : rate changes every 8 hours
[2016-06-25 01:06:29] songxf : Right - understand this. But the rate I am going to be charged in 3 hours is the rate published on funding history 5 hours ago
[2016-06-25 01:08:02] songxf : The rate published on funding history is -0.0763%, but bottom left says -0.0002%
[2016-06-25 01:08:13] songxf : confused
[2016-06-25 01:09:08] micmix : songxf: no, the rate published on funding history is the old one. in 3 hours you will be charged -0.0002% and it will appear on the funding history then
[2016-06-25 01:09:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1500 @ 669.04
[2016-06-25 01:09:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3000 @ 669.86
[2016-06-25 01:09:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 46574 @ 670.00 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-25 01:09:47] songxf : I see. Anyway to get the funding rate that I am going to be charged through API?
[2016-06-25 01:10:58] micmix : songxf: https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/instrument?symbol=XBTUSD
[2016-06-25 01:11:12] micmix : "fundingRate":-0.00000199999999999994
[2016-06-25 01:11:19] songxf : got it - thx vm
[2016-06-25 01:12:53] REKT : MOOON TIME!
[2016-06-25 01:12:53] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 30474 @ 675.49 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-25 01:12:53] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 12400 @ 675.12
[2016-06-25 01:12:53] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10 @ 674.90
[2016-06-25 01:13:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 465 @ 678.55
[2016-06-25 01:23:58] rapidtrades : what;s up with chat
[2016-06-25 01:24:24] rapidtrades : on desktop i can't expand it vertically and on mobile doesn't even show up
[2016-06-25 01:25:45] rapidtrades : u know there's movement when mex starts DPing u
[2016-06-25 01:26:06] QuantFocus : yea guys, stop getting rekt
[2016-06-25 01:26:14] QuantFocus : i'm on the right side of this one, so i don't want to pay that shit
[2016-06-25 01:26:33] rapidtrades : only 60k for now
[2016-06-25 01:26:37] ayy_lmao : rapidtrades: lol
[2016-06-25 01:29:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 38500 @ 681.31 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-25 01:30:05] rapidtrades : its ok only 100k for now....
[2016-06-25 01:35:17] rapidtrades : chat died
[2016-06-25 01:38:00] rapidtrades : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-24/tony-robbins-asks-everyone-storm-across-bed-hot-coals-dozens-get-injured
[2016-06-25 01:38:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 100 @ 687.75