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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-06-25 01:38:55] rapidtrades : Pujan Patel from Dallas said thousands of people walked across the coals without a problem, and the people that burned their feet should have done a better job mentally preparing - "It was very easy, but there's always going to be 1 percent of people that are idiots" [2016-06-25 01:38:57] mbaril : are we gonna see 700 today :) [2016-06-25 01:39:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 50000 @ 688.44 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: [2016-06-25 01:43:24] ayy_lmao : good day today [2016-06-25 01:43:44] ayy_lmao : seems like only yesterday ppl were calling for 500 [2016-06-25 01:45:59] rapidtrades : that's because it was yesterday [2016-06-25 01:46:20] ayy_lmao : that is the joke [2016-06-25 01:46:27] ayy_lmao : ;) [2016-06-25 01:49:58] rapidtrades : that bounce is not good [2016-06-25 01:51:44] micmix : okc not participating in the pump, their pump bot is off [2016-06-25 01:51:57] QuantFocus : ayy_lmao: good one [2016-06-25 01:55:54] rapidtrades : second try....bounce or break 700? [2016-06-25 01:57:28] mbaril : lets brake 700 and to the moon :P [2016-06-25 01:57:43] rapidtrades : im going with a bounce [2016-06-25 01:59:18] rapidtrades : there is no hype for this rally [2016-06-25 01:59:35] rapidtrades : noone is here..everyone got killed on that crash [2016-06-25 02:00:55] Adura_ : That noone guy gets around. [2016-06-25 02:01:23] rapidtrades : yeah he got around to ur mom last night [2016-06-25 02:01:36] Adura_ : My Mother is dead. [2016-06-25 02:06:11] QuantFocus : awkward [2016-06-25 02:06:37] rapidtrades : QuantFocus: :) [2016-06-25 02:08:58] QuantFocus : how do you guys make those fancy symbols? [2016-06-25 02:09:16] QuantFocus : like thumbs up and stuff [2016-06-25 02:10:13] rapidtrades : unicode? [2016-06-25 02:10:34] QuantFocus : is that what it is? [2016-06-25 02:11:33] QuantFocus : '1F64C' [2016-06-25 02:11:42] QuantFocus : 1F64C [2016-06-25 02:12:06] QuantFocus : `1F64C` [2016-06-25 02:12:12] QuantFocus : da fuck [2016-06-25 02:13:49] rapidtrades : /1F64C [2016-06-25 02:13:54] rapidtrades : /1F64C/ [2016-06-25 02:14:12] rapidtrades : \1F64C [2016-06-25 02:14:23] QuantFocus : lol [2016-06-25 02:14:24] rapidtrades : have no clue how it works [2016-06-25 02:15:04] rapidtrades : U+1F64C [2016-06-25 02:15:15] rapidtrades : \U+1F64C [2016-06-25 02:15:30] QuantFocus : where's support at when you really need them? [2016-06-25 02:16:28] BitMEX_Wally : :thumbsup: [2016-06-25 02:16:33] BitMEX_Wally : `:thumbs:` [2016-06-25 02:16:37] QuantFocus : now you're just taunting me [2016-06-25 02:16:44] QuantFocus : :thumbs: [2016-06-25 02:16:44] BitMEX_Wally : `:thumbsup:` [2016-06-25 02:16:55] rapidtrades : :1F64C [2016-06-25 02:16:57] BitMEX_Wally : Hah try `: thumbsup : ` without the spaces [2016-06-25 02:16:59] rapidtrades : :1F64C: [2016-06-25 02:17:07] QuantFocus : :thumbsup: [2016-06-25 02:17:10] QuantFocus : nice! [2016-06-25 02:17:10] BitMEX_Wally : :) [2016-06-25 02:17:18] BitMEX_Wally : :poop: [2016-06-25 02:17:20] rapidtrades : :thumbs: [2016-06-25 02:17:29] BitMEX_Wally : thumbsup, damn autocorrect [2016-06-25 02:17:43] BitMEX_Wally : :bitmex: [2016-06-25 02:17:51] QuantFocus : :bitmex: [2016-06-25 02:17:54] rapidtrades : :thumbsdown: [2016-06-25 02:17:57] QuantFocus : hahah [2016-06-25 02:18:07] rapidtrades : :jew: [2016-06-25 02:18:13] QuantFocus : :gentlycaress: [2016-06-25 02:18:15] rapidtrades : :arrow: [2016-06-25 02:18:24] rapidtrades : :U: [2016-06-25 02:18:30] QuantFocus : ::D: [2016-06-25 02:18:39] QuantFocus : :lol: [2016-06-25 02:18:45] QuantFocus : is there a list of these? [2016-06-25 02:18:47] rapidtrades : :no: [2016-06-25 02:19:04] BitMEX_Wally :  [2016-06-25 02:19:24] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: hey any reason why chat doesn't show up on mobile anymroe [2016-06-25 02:21:04] BitMEX_Wally : http://www.emoji-cheat-sheet.com [2016-06-25 02:21:26] BitMEX_Wally : I'm on mobile [2016-06-25 02:21:37] BitMEX_Wally : it's down the bottom in a Trollbox widget [2016-06-25 02:22:55] ayy_lmao : fucking bearstamp ruining the fun [2016-06-25 02:23:18] ayy_lmao : bearstamp is an old man who cant get it up [2016-06-25 02:23:57] QuantFocus : :no_crossing: [2016-06-25 02:23:58] QuantFocus : oops [2016-06-25 02:23:59] nip : the question is will finex get bored waiting and give up [2016-06-25 02:24:04] QuantFocus : :no_pedestrian: [2016-06-25 02:24:16] QuantFocus : :no_pedestrians: [2016-06-25 02:24:20] BitMEX_Wally : :no_pedestrians: [2016-06-25 02:24:45] BitMEX_Wally : Bitstamp does not have leverage so that's why the price is flat [2016-06-25 02:30:32] mbaril : 700 here we come! [2016-06-25 02:31:01] QuantFocus : 711 local high [2016-06-25 02:31:15] mbaril : Pretty sure we will brake it [2016-06-25 02:32:05] QuantFocus : oh boy, can't wait to receive my .0002% [2016-06-25 02:37:00] aethlios : you must be an athlete to keep trading btc around the clock. [2016-06-25 02:39:10] QuantFocus : :shit: [2016-06-25 02:42:14] subjective : How long is the profit withheld? [2016-06-25 02:42:52] BitMEX_Arthur : subjective: until 12gmt [2016-06-25 03:15:56] Rado : Sup girls [2016-06-25 03:32:32] ten : :moneybag: [2016-06-25 03:42:39] Mm bot : Rado: sup [2016-06-25 03:42:57] Mm bot : where can i see exchange volumn over time? [2016-06-25 03:43:32] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Stats/Stats_history [2016-06-25 03:45:42] Zen Trader : What effect does margin trading have on the price vs spot trading are we sort of playing a zero sum game. I mean if I buy a bitcoin on spot markets does that work towards advancing my position pushing the price up while margin trading is working against my position by promising to close it within a certain timeframe [2016-06-25 03:46:28] Zen Trader : Would we all actually be better off adopting a different strategy slightly longer timeframe and just buy to hold [2016-06-25 03:50:10] sq : buy to hold works XD btc is going up! [2016-06-25 03:52:01] Mm bot : Loving the HTTP response headers "x-powered-by: Profit".. Respect! [2016-06-25 03:54:13] Mm bot : BitMEX_Wally: if I transfer from another bitmex account would that take a whole day as well? [2016-06-25 04:00:37] BitMEX_Wally : Mm bot: Yes, but if you have a need for sub accounts we can support instant transfer between them [2016-06-25 04:06:21] subjective : Cool, how do I enable the sub account? [2016-06-25 04:10:33] BitMEX_Wally : Send an email to support with your needs/use case and we'll see if this is the right solution [2016-06-25 04:15:12] jung1 : damn bitcoin [2016-06-25 04:15:25] jung1 : morning guys [2016-06-25 04:19:29] Mm bot : who gets the funding? holders of long? [2016-06-25 04:21:07] QuantFocus : shorts [2016-06-25 04:21:34] Mm bot : longs pays shorts? [2016-06-25 04:23:06] sq : BitMEX_Wally: can i apply for a sub account? would be great to separate my strategies [2016-06-25 04:23:10] sq : much appreciated [2016-06-25 04:23:54] QuantFocus : Mm bot: when the funding rate is positive. shorts pay longs if it's negative [2016-06-25 04:24:52] Mm bot : QuantFocus: ah, [2016-06-25 04:25:59] jung1 : sq: just open new one with your reffereal [2016-06-25 04:26:01] jung1 : or mine [2016-06-25 04:26:17] jung1 : https://www.bitmex.com/register/CunK1W [2016-06-25 04:26:22] jung1 : there you go buddy [2016-06-25 04:26:26] sq : yeah but i would like the instant transfer between accts [2016-06-25 04:26:34] jung1 : cant happen [2016-06-25 04:29:01] Mm bot : can i enter a referrer code after signup? [2016-06-25 04:32:19] jung1 : no [2016-06-25 04:32:27] jung1 : you have to sign up from this link [2016-06-25 04:32:28] jung1 : https://www.bitmex.com/register/CunK1W [2016-06-25 04:32:31] jung1 : only way [2016-06-25 04:33:04] QuantFocus : :thumbsup: [2016-06-25 04:42:42] BitMEX_Wally : My apologies, I've just looked into the sub-accounts and they are only available as part of a broker integration, for example they are used by Quoine [2016-06-25 04:43:16] BitMEX_Wally : There is no login or frontend support [2016-06-25 04:49:53] subjective : BitMEX_Wally: ouch that would've be a great feature for traders to try different strategy and bots [2016-06-25 04:53:03] subjective : Are you guys based in HK or EU? [2016-06-25 04:53:50] BitMEX_Wally : subjective: Most of us are in Hong Kong [2016-06-25 04:54:01] subjective : servers are in eu right? [2016-06-25 04:54:14] subjective : I am trying to see which region to spin up the bots [2016-06-25 05:06:04] jung1 : BitMEX_Wally: about halving: whiych option do you support? [2016-06-25 05:06:09] jung1 : as bitmex of course [2016-06-25 05:10:34] subjective : ETH is so quite, miners are installing new geth nodes now [2016-06-25 05:17:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1 @ 682.26 :punch: :whale: [2016-06-25 05:18:46] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Wally: Do you know what happened to the little marks under the limit order buttons that would show how much your order would be filled by the book? [2016-06-25 05:28:06] jung1 : subjective: now could be good time to buy some eth [2016-06-25 05:28:09] jung1 : all that dao problems [2016-06-25 05:28:33] jung1 : but still eth stay strong [2016-06-25 05:28:50] jung1 : even dont give a f about btc proce [2016-06-25 05:29:03] jung1 : which is quite awesome [2016-06-25 05:32:11] jung1 : http://static.pb.pl/filtered/7c/168828,151908,f_663_663.jpg ahh fuck. good that I have altcoins [2016-06-25 06:07:54] jung1 : for all of you who use bots http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2F%2FEP%2F%2FNONSGML+COMPARL+PE-582.443+01+DOC+PDF+V0%2F%2FEN&language=EN [2016-06-25 06:19:19] 1QaZxSw2 : im getting roughly caressed here [2016-06-25 06:19:44] sq : lol [2016-06-25 06:20:00] QuantFocus : 1QaZxSw2: hahah [2016-06-25 06:33:06] ayy_lmao : chopped up? [2016-06-25 06:50:44] Rune : down? [2016-06-25 07:01:57] jung1 : Rune: http://www.reactiongifs.com/classified-2/ [2016-06-25 07:55:23] yerb : BitMEX_Wally: here is a suggestion, could you add an option to preferences for plus/minus buttons to be set by our own custom values? [2016-06-25 07:56:09] yerb : for example +/- .01 is useless to me, i would like my custom value to be there [2016-06-25 07:56:52] yerb : and maybe have 6 buttons option [2016-06-25 07:58:15] jung1 : +1 [2016-06-25 07:58:53] jung1 : or option that you can add % of current quantity [2016-06-25 07:59:30] yerb : yeah, ability to set each button to % or point value [2016-06-25 08:08:55] Skitrx : looks like we'll break 700 soon [2016-06-25 08:09:53] jung1 : or 600 [2016-06-25 08:32:27] asdfman : you short again @jung1 ? [2016-06-25 08:33:34] jung1 : I shorted that green dildo at 692 [2016-06-25 08:34:05] jung1 : but trades these days are quite hard to predict [2016-06-25 08:38:07] asdfman : agree [2016-06-25 08:38:37] asdfman : what timeframe you mean? [2016-06-25 08:38:43] asdfman : the green one [2016-06-25 08:39:24] asdfman : aah here [2016-06-25 08:39:27] asdfman : sheet [2016-06-25 08:39:29] asdfman : sorry man [2016-06-25 08:40:06] asdfman : if you were short when the green dildo, ehm, came [2016-06-25 08:42:31] jung1 : that one from $660 to 694 [2016-06-25 08:57:00] smagin07 : how is the market price calculated? [2016-06-25 08:58:37] jung1 : by kaiko price index [2016-06-25 08:58:39] jung1 : https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex [2016-06-25 09:40:14] justinlooking : 4500 [2016-06-25 09:44:07] wotan : lets get that 4500 as a solid ground go btc [2016-06-25 09:54:47] jung1 : 4000 better [2016-06-25 09:56:58] wotan : jung1 i expect it to go more likely up at this stage then down but lets see [2016-06-25 09:57:49] wotan : bitcoin halfing 14 days, brexit, world stock crash lets see how the new week will be [2016-06-25 10:28:02] jung1 : imo real pump will be after halving [2016-06-25 10:28:25] jung1 : when investors will see if everything is ok [2016-06-25 10:29:37] mjmj83 : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4ouuab/trace_mayer_says_bitcoin_halving_to_bring_3000/ [2016-06-25 10:29:51] mjmj83 : Trace Mayer expect it to go to $2000-$3000 in 3 months of halving.. :) [2016-06-25 10:30:25] jung1 : possible [2016-06-25 10:30:39] mjmj83 : halving before also did something [2016-06-25 10:30:55] mjmj83 : he explains it in the video from 20 minutes [2016-06-25 10:31:26] mjmj83 : He also refers to the confiscation of 100.000 btc in SilkRoard.. that also increased the price.. [2016-06-25 10:31:38] mjmj83 : less btc in market, price goes up [2016-06-25 10:33:19] tscha : justinlooking: hey, you still long? [2016-06-25 10:36:18] tscha : mjmj83: trace mayer, lol.. biggest moron in the whole bitcoin community.. and that means a lot [2016-06-25 10:36:56] jung1 : mjmj83: but now there are a lot of new users and whole ecosystem is much bigger [2016-06-25 10:37:23] mjmj83 : jung1: true [2016-06-25 10:37:35] jung1 : + all margin trading [2016-06-25 10:37:39] mjmj83 : tscha: trace a moron? tell me [2016-06-25 10:37:46] jung1 : plus all margin [2016-06-25 10:37:59] jung1 : its could be not so easy to pump it high [2016-06-25 10:38:27] mjmj83 : If you listened to Trace Mayer when bitcoin was $0.25 you've made some money.... [2016-06-25 10:38:45] tscha : he is no clue about economics and is a manipulate shill... Craig Wright #2 [2016-06-25 10:39:04] tscha : https://www.tracemayer.net/ [2016-06-25 10:39:29] mjmj83 : tscha: Yes I know you think he's a moron, but explain... [2016-06-25 10:41:33] tscha : mjmj83: did you watch his interviews? [2016-06-25 10:41:40] mjmj83 : tscha: Yes. [2016-06-25 11:38:04] Skitrx : $700 + brexit + stock market down could trigger a decent breakout [2016-06-25 11:43:22] jung1 : which way? [2016-06-25 11:51:00] Skitrx : up [2016-06-25 11:53:51] RoftheN : Don't forget the upcoming halving [2016-06-25 11:53:58] RoftheN : only 2 weeks [2016-06-25 11:59:53] Skitrx : yeah, so demand is there atleast [2016-06-25 12:00:28] rapidtrades : the more i think about it the more im of the belief that almost all brexit crashes will retrace [2016-06-25 12:01:25] rapidtrades : if u look at bank forecastss, uk growth will be hurt by 1%....does that really justify a 15% crash in the Pound? [2016-06-25 12:01:44] Skitrx : that 1% could put is in a depression [2016-06-25 12:02:29] Avalanche : guys, if my fee paid is in minus ( - ) I have received the moeney correct ? [2016-06-25 12:02:46] rapidtrades : how does 1% cut in GDP put u in a depression u muppet [2016-06-25 12:06:31] BitMEX_Wally : Avalanche: correct [2016-06-25 12:06:34] Skitrx : err cause it was only at 0.5 [2016-06-25 12:06:36] Skitrx : u muppet [2016-06-25 12:08:10] rapidtrades : do u even know what a depression is ya muppet [2016-06-25 12:08:29] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: wally can we do smth about the lag? had to restart browser again [2016-06-25 12:08:45] rapidtrades : maybe move the chart to its own page? bitmex/chart or whatever [2016-06-25 12:08:59] Skitrx : a long term downturn in economic activity, i'm failing to see your arguement [2016-06-25 12:09:05] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: What kind of lag? Updating the chart when switching instruments? [2016-06-25 12:09:30] BitMEX_Wally : or that connection interrupted message when the WebSocket drops? [2016-06-25 12:09:43] rapidtrades : the usual if u keep it on it will clog up more and more memory....we had this problem since day one butt gotten worse last 2 weeks [2016-06-25 12:10:01] BitMEX_Wally : Ok, what browser version? [2016-06-25 12:10:17] rapidtrades : or offer us a basic version without the chart [2016-06-25 12:10:19] rapidtrades : ff [2016-06-25 12:10:45] elmorte : Selling 1% below mark to avoid 0.1% funding....thank you kind stranger [2016-06-25 12:11:17] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: I've found that happens all the time [2016-06-25 12:11:43] BitMEX_Wally : And market makers put their bids up after fundin. [2016-06-25 12:11:57] elmorte : You're right, it's not new, just first time I took advantage of it [2016-06-25 12:12:09] elmorte : :) [2016-06-25 12:13:31] rapidtrades : dam i missed it [2016-06-25 12:13:54] rapidtrades : too busy yapping my mouth as usual [2016-06-25 12:14:38] rapidtrades : wait a min...it wasn't at 1% discount before the rebalance @elmorte [2016-06-25 12:14:46] icocountdown : any admins here [2016-06-25 12:14:59] elmorte : 15min candles...check the second last one [2016-06-25 12:15:00] rapidtrades : we rallied after it and it was all over not just here [2016-06-25 12:15:06] BitMEX_Wally : icocountdown: Hello [2016-06-25 12:15:12] elmorte : as it plummets to 671 [2016-06-25 12:15:20] rapidtrades : elmorte: right but there was no 'discount' [2016-06-25 12:15:29] icocountdown : BitMEX_Wally: hey wally [2016-06-25 12:15:40] elmorte : Then how come the mark was at 678? [2016-06-25 12:15:45] icocountdown : BitMEX_Wally: are you interested on promoting bitmex, i really like the site [2016-06-25 12:15:56] icocountdown : BitMEX_Wally: i run http://icocountdown.com [2016-06-25 12:16:07] rapidtrades : elmorte: my point is we rallied everywhere after 12 [2016-06-25 12:16:09] BitMEX_Wally : icocountdown: absolutely. We have an affiliate programme [2016-06-25 12:16:26] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/affiliates [2016-06-25 12:16:37] icocountdown : BitMEX_Wally: what is the comission like [2016-06-25 12:16:47] elmorte : my point 0.09 XBT.... [2016-06-25 12:16:51] elmorte : You can win, I don't care [2016-06-25 12:17:24] rapidtrades : dude, looking at okc chart we opened the hour at 673 [2016-06-25 12:17:32] rapidtrades : we're now at 679 [2016-06-25 12:17:45] rapidtrades : so yeah ofc i win....there was a discount only in retrospect [2016-06-25 12:17:53] elmorte : 671.00 4511 19:47:10 [2016-06-25 12:18:13] rapidtrades : ok fine...there was a $2 discount...that's 0.3% not 1% like u said [2016-06-25 12:18:20] rapidtrades : closer to my zero then ur 1% [2016-06-25 12:18:42] elmorte : 671/677? [2016-06-25 12:19:21] rapidtrades : lowest low at okc was 673 then [2016-06-25 12:19:26] rapidtrades : lemme check finex [2016-06-25 12:19:47] elmorte : Check all of them then come back to bitmex :p [2016-06-25 12:20:16] subjective : why did cash-rebalance withdraw 0.23 from my account the position is positive. [2016-06-25 12:21:53] BitMEX_Wally : subjective: when you say positive, you mean unrealised PNL? [2016-06-25 12:22:09] rapidtrades : ok a low of $678 finex [2016-06-25 12:22:13] rapidtrades : lemme check stamp [2016-06-25 12:22:27] elmorte : sure, I'll be here [2016-06-25 12:22:37] subjective : yep, realised PL is loss from trades weeks ago [2016-06-25 12:22:57] rapidtrades : stamp 674....so let's to the average... [2016-06-25 12:23:13] subjective : does it mean i'd pay extra because of loss it has many weeks ago [2016-06-25 12:23:14] BitMEX_Wally : The realised PNL shown is cumulative [2016-06-25 12:23:46] subjective : so if I move my funds into a new account, i won't get cash rebalance to affect my current BTC amount.. [2016-06-25 12:23:49] BitMEX_Wally : but the PNL including funding in the last 24 hours was -0.23 [2016-06-25 12:24:02] BitMEX_Wally : moving funds makes no difference [2016-06-25 12:24:12] BitMEX_Wally : PNL is PNL [2016-06-25 12:24:23] subjective : ok [2016-06-25 12:25:04] rapidtrades : index was 675.16 [2016-06-25 12:25:42] rapidtrades : so u got a $4 discount at best....which is 0.59% [2016-06-25 12:26:29] rapidtrades : how much did u pay in funding [2016-06-25 12:26:52] elmorte : So are you saying the chart here is wrong? [2016-06-25 12:27:47] elmorte : Looks pretty fn accurate to me... [2016-06-25 12:27:49] rapidtrades : im saying u didn't get a large discount like u think....the general market rallied after 12 [2016-06-25 12:28:25] elmorte : You can look at 1 min candles if you want... [2016-06-25 12:28:54] rapidtrades : elmorte: rapidtrades: index was 675.16 .....lower low here was 671 [2016-06-25 12:29:01] rapidtrades : do the math [2016-06-25 12:29:15] rapidtrades : around 0.5% after funding [2016-06-25 12:29:28] elmorte : nope, 677+/- 0.03 [2016-06-25 12:29:41] rapidtrades : my brain hurts [2016-06-25 12:29:51] elmorte : maybe even 677.11 [2016-06-25 12:29:57] elmorte : That's your fault... [2016-06-25 12:30:05] elmorte : What timestamp are you looking at? [2016-06-25 12:30:29] rapidtrades : dude....if u take the lowest low during that 11:45 candle...index was at 675...i just used the average from kaiko [2016-06-25 12:30:41] rapidtrades : 50% finex, 28% okc and 22% stamp [2016-06-25 12:30:58] rapidtrades : do it urself...take the lowest low at 11:45 gmt [2016-06-25 12:31:00] elmorte : The index is right here on the chart [2016-06-25 12:31:26] elmorte : 1145gmt was even higher, over 678 [2016-06-25 12:31:36] elmorte : 1147 was down a bit [2016-06-25 12:31:37] rapidtrades : there is no index on my chart [2016-06-25 12:32:24] rapidtrades : elmorte: yes 11:47 because that's when 671 printed here [2016-06-25 12:32:38] elmorte : right click, reset chart [2016-06-25 12:32:57] rapidtrades : nope [2016-06-25 12:33:14] elmorte : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT [2016-06-25 12:33:18] rapidtrades : the index was never on the chat [2016-06-25 12:33:21] elmorte : If you have a problem visualising shit... [2016-06-25 12:33:28] elmorte : Booyakasha! [2016-06-25 12:33:37] elmorte : Case closed [2016-06-25 12:33:58] rapidtrades : is not case closed dummy cos we spike down at 11:47 [2016-06-25 12:34:00] RSFinance : What is the "Predicted Funding Rate"? Is it in the API anywhere? [2016-06-25 12:34:09] rapidtrades : that's a 1min average [2016-06-25 12:34:14] rapidtrades : doesn't consider the lows [2016-06-25 12:34:26] rapidtrades : 671 if u got in there was a LOW during that candle [2016-06-25 12:35:04] elmorte : obiviously, otherwise it wouldn't be on the chart [2016-06-25 12:36:03] BitMEX_Wally : RSFinance: look at the indicativeFundingRate on the instrument table [2016-06-25 12:36:34] BitMEX_Wally : it's just a cumulative TWAP of the samples since last rebalance [2016-06-25 12:36:58] BitMEX_Wally : then adjusted by all the min/max rules [2016-06-25 12:38:25] Rado : gm punks [2016-06-25 12:38:52] rapidtrades : elmorte: sry about calling u dummy...ur 1% was closer then my 0% [2016-06-25 12:39:13] Rado : Sep mark price went up even though the spot price did not change much [2016-06-25 12:39:35] Rado : rapidtrades: what's going on man? [2016-06-25 12:39:41] RSFinance : ok thanks [2016-06-25 12:39:52] elmorte : ooh, backhanded apology...accepted [2016-06-25 12:40:08] BitMEX_Wally : Rado: XBTU16 is currently set at a fixed 90% annualised basis [2016-06-25 12:40:30] Rado : why is that BitMEX_Wally? [2016-06-25 12:40:57] BitMEX_Wally : It's not liquid enough to enable automatic adjustment of the basis [2016-06-25 12:41:07] BitMEX_Wally : people were playing tennis with the orderbook [2016-06-25 12:41:08] Rado : got it [2016-06-25 12:50:57] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Wally: where is the 'indicative settle price' in that fair basis calculation? [2016-06-25 12:55:11] BitMEX_Wally : NukeLaloosh: on the instrument table [2016-06-25 12:55:21] BitMEX_Wally : it's just the last price of the underlying index [2016-06-25 13:02:37] NukeLaloosh : :sparkling_heart: [2016-06-25 13:14:37] Rado : back to boring [2016-06-25 13:16:02] tscha : think I'm going to close my long. no clue what is going to happen. [2016-06-25 13:16:33] elmorte : It's an odd price level [2016-06-25 13:19:35] ayy_lmao : liq price: 100000000.00 lmao [2016-06-25 13:20:59] justinlooking : u need some bids to sell into tscha :P [2016-06-25 13:21:36] elmorte : I wonder who came up with the arbitrary number and why :) would be just as easy to turn 8 sideways [2016-06-25 13:24:47] ayy_lmao : i think we are very close to topping out 4 btc, [2016-06-25 13:24:52] ayy_lmao : need more consolidation [2016-06-25 13:26:32] justinlooking : _lmao: that does not suit me, please change ur opinion lol [2016-06-25 13:26:48] ayy_lmao : lol [2016-06-25 13:27:24] tscha : justinlooking: are u still long? [2016-06-25 13:27:54] ayy_lmao : i mean 720 is possible, but bitcoin will have to move up very soon for that [2016-06-25 13:28:04] justinlooking : yes, and signfiicantly for me [2016-06-25 13:28:44] ayy_lmao : you in profit? [2016-06-25 13:29:44] tscha : justinlooking: me too [2016-06-25 13:29:51] tscha : justinlooking: let's get out there together mate :) [2016-06-25 13:29:58] justinlooking : lol r u mad! [2016-06-25 13:30:27] justinlooking : ayy_lmao: most of them are, waiting for coinbase to up my weekly buy limit... [2016-06-25 13:30:49] ayy_lmao : oh are u spot long? [2016-06-25 13:30:59] Rado : justinlooking why Coinbase? [2016-06-25 13:31:09] Rado : there are so many better exchanges [2016-06-25 13:31:16] justinlooking : ofc offline hodl [2016-06-25 13:31:53] ayy_lmao : oh well, then your safe [2016-06-25 13:31:56] Rado : Is this a bot buying 1 contract a t a time? [2016-06-25 13:32:06] tscha : If silly me had prepared properly for brexit night, I would have made a kraken account to buy BTCEUR.. bought while first pro-brexit results kept coming, but had only BTCUSD accounts [2016-06-25 13:32:15] ayy_lmao : you're* [2016-06-25 13:34:08] justinlooking : I still cannot believe leave won [2016-06-25 13:34:35] ayy_lmao : if this bounce goes any higher this move will be larger than all the up legs from $400-780 pump [2016-06-25 13:34:59] ayy_lmao : on 4-6hr [2016-06-25 13:37:28] wurstgelee : counting on it [2016-06-25 13:37:29] wurstgelee : ;) [2016-06-25 13:38:03] justinlooking : it's a red flag when everyone is same way round! [2016-06-25 13:38:48] justinlooking : go gooalllll [2016-06-25 13:38:51] wurstgelee : yeah. but its long if not sure for me atm [2016-06-25 13:38:53] tscha : justinlooking: I'll keep my long [2016-06-25 13:38:55] wurstgelee : works great [2016-06-25 13:38:56] wurstgelee : ;) [2016-06-25 13:39:12] tscha : justinlooking: because of you <3 #rationaldecisionmaking [2016-06-25 13:39:16] wurstgelee : relatively tight stop limit [2016-06-25 13:39:27] luckynuke : up up and away [2016-06-25 13:39:36] justinlooking : lol tscha, don't forget #SaturdayThings, could start getting interesting as aftrenoon/evening progresses [2016-06-25 13:39:36] wurstgelee : stop hits 2 or 3 times usually, then we got up in 4th try [2016-06-25 13:39:42] wurstgelee : good net profit [2016-06-25 13:39:44] wurstgelee : :) [2016-06-25 13:40:21] Rado : nice wurstgelee [2016-06-25 13:40:25] Rado : that's the way to play it [2016-06-25 13:42:45] wurstgelee : see? :) [2016-06-25 13:45:12] wurstgelee : bad example it seems oO [2016-06-25 13:45:15] luckynuke : wurstgelee: when do you think we will see the breakout ? [2016-06-25 13:45:28] wurstgelee : i have no clue [2016-06-25 13:45:30] wurstgelee : sometimes i guess [2016-06-25 13:45:32] wurstgelee : ;) [2016-06-25 13:46:11] wurstgelee : if charts when the whales have mercy basically [2016-06-25 13:46:18] wurstgelee : *-if charts [2016-06-25 13:46:59] wurstgelee : could have replaced when with if tho [2016-06-25 13:48:29] rapidtrades : up or down fellas? [2016-06-25 13:48:35] justinlooking : ur mum [2016-06-25 13:48:53] rapidtrades : NO U [2016-06-25 13:48:56] justinlooking : haha [2016-06-25 13:51:56] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: did u know i picture u as taz sometimes? [2016-06-25 13:51:59] wurstgelee : :p [2016-06-25 13:54:26] Rado : I just went long some [2016-06-25 13:54:27] Rado : so up [2016-06-25 13:54:29] Rado : lol [2016-06-25 13:54:57] tscha : rapidtrades: are you long or short? [2016-06-25 14:02:54] rapidtrades : i still have 30% of my original long [2016-06-25 14:07:14] rapidtrades : i think a lot of the post-brexit move in CNY related [2016-06-25 14:07:32] rapidtrades : usd/cnh went up 1.5% on Friday....biggest move since Janaury i think [2016-06-25 14:08:10] Rado : CNY needs to devalue even more [2016-06-25 14:08:48] rapidtrades : agree...this was a gift to the PBOC...i can't see them intervening down [2016-06-25 14:09:36] rapidtrades : on related note...i had a long usd/cnh that got taken out at 6.58 right before brexit [2016-06-25 14:09:57] rapidtrades : i planned to set a slippage limit order but platform took it as traling stop [2016-06-25 14:10:06] rapidtrades : dunno if bug or just too tired [2016-06-25 14:11:26] rapidtrades : i'll try to recreate the error on monday [2016-06-25 14:14:11] BitMEX_Sam : Which platform? [2016-06-25 14:14:38] rapidtrades : specific broker platform...coded in java i think [2016-06-25 14:27:56] raykurzweil : What are your thoughts on BTC the next 48h? [2016-06-25 14:28:19] raykurzweil : Have a long open 10x base 662 that I can't keep an eye on. [2016-06-25 14:32:08] Rado : raykurzweil: that's why there are stops [2016-06-25 14:32:44] Rado : I am telling you this is the #1 mistake inexperience traders make [2016-06-25 14:33:04] Rado : when they get stopped out they think this is bad because they missed on profit [2016-06-25 14:33:24] Rado : then they get killed when the asset doesn't go their way [2016-06-25 14:33:33] RoftheN : How do I avoid that mistake? [2016-06-25 14:33:50] Rado : use stop orders always [2016-06-25 14:33:54] Rado : on every trade [2016-06-25 14:33:57] Rado : no exceptions [2016-06-25 14:34:17] Rado : of course you need to also enter at the right time and have position management [2016-06-25 14:34:32] Rado : don't just buy or sell for the sake of trading [2016-06-25 14:36:38] mbaril : Rado: I never use stop. Stop limit are trigger when you dont want to [2016-06-25 14:36:55] mbaril : So far I did well but I never open a positions and leave. [2016-06-25 14:37:01] mbaril : Im always there if I have a position [2016-06-25 14:37:11] Rado : if you are scalping that might be fine [2016-06-25 14:37:25] Rado : but it can get away from you if it moves fast [2016-06-25 14:37:35] Rado : I am telling you I have been trading for 20 years now [2016-06-25 14:38:16] Rado : you can't beat experience with any theories [2016-06-25 14:38:56] Rado : if your stops are getting hit it's either you are putting them to close to your entry price or your entry was not good [2016-06-25 14:39:13] Rado : in the long run you make a lot more than loose from stops [2016-06-25 14:39:55] tscha : BitMEX_Sam: are you working fulltime on mex? [2016-06-25 14:39:55] Rado : specially on leveraged markets like here [2016-06-25 14:44:09] Rado : https://whaleclub.co/i/blL2q8 [2016-06-25 14:45:41] Rado : https://twitter.com/The_BitCoiner/status/746709925536141313/photo/1 [2016-06-25 14:58:34] rapidtrades : dam...i should start trading gold again [2016-06-25 15:00:26] rapidtrades : Rado: 20 years? trading what [2016-06-25 15:03:30] Rado : stocks and options [2016-06-25 15:04:30] rapidtrades : options on what [2016-06-25 15:05:26] Rado : stock options [2016-06-25 15:06:23] Rado : I only trade crypto now [2016-06-25 15:07:24] rapidtrades : y [2016-06-25 15:09:22] Rado : I don't want to hold any fiat denominated assets [2016-06-25 15:09:53] Rado : also have some physical gold and silver [2016-06-25 15:10:30] rapidtrades : k [2016-06-25 15:13:28] rapidtrades : cmon shitter rally so i can sell yo ass again [2016-06-25 15:13:37] rapidtrades : shether* [2016-06-25 15:17:59] NukeLaloosh : how can i have a raw realized pnl since last rebalance if i haven't traded? [2016-06-25 15:19:51] rapidtrades : NukeLaloosh: it shows the life of the contract [2016-06-25 15:23:01] BitMEX_Sam : tscha: Yes, have been for about 2 years [2016-06-25 15:25:48] raykurzweil : Rado: Thanks a lot for your insight. I will place stops accordingly. I never used to trade with stops, until that one time when I lost 8000ETH on a margin trade that went beyond horrible. Never again. [2016-06-25 15:26:16] raykurzweil : I still punch myself for that one from time to time. [2016-06-25 15:39:38] NukeLaloosh : rapidtrades: nah, i'm talking about on the hover-over. it shows a small negative amount and I haven't closed a single contract [2016-06-25 15:43:39] elmorte : raykurzweil: 8000 ETH? On margin? That couldn't have been long ago [2016-06-25 15:46:36] elmorte : NukeLaloosh: you have any open positions? [2016-06-25 15:50:28] NukeLaloosh : yes [2016-06-25 15:52:50] NukeLaloosh : ah i found it, it's from funding. but that doesn't really explain why there is a small value in the sept [2016-06-25 15:56:01] men : when the eth are splitted from the dao? i think there will be a huge dump [2016-06-25 15:56:49] RoftheN : ETH split from DAO will take over a month, meanwhile they will be stuck [2016-06-25 15:57:22] men : RoftheN: :D ok thanks [2016-06-25 15:58:09] men : dwarfpool,nanopool and miningpoolhub have switched to geth 1.4.8 [2016-06-25 15:59:04] elmorte : NukeLaloosh: maybe a rebalance at mark? [2016-06-25 16:04:35] rapidtrades : guys im bored [2016-06-25 16:05:16] justinlooking : wal v nir [2016-06-25 16:07:29] rapidtrades : finex jumpin [2016-06-25 16:07:59] rapidtrades : longs pay right? [2016-06-25 16:10:19] NukeLaloosh : elmorte: i don't see how that can be. "This is your raw realised PNL since the last rebalance. When not hovering, we show total PNL" [2016-06-25 16:11:13] rapidtrades : take it easy nuke [2016-06-25 16:11:44] NukeLaloosh : we're talking at least $0.40... [2016-06-25 16:13:32] rapidtrades : finex dumpin [2016-06-25 16:15:01] justinlooking : ? it's higher than it was 15 mins ago [2016-06-25 16:15:12] rapidtrades : but loer then 5 mins ago [2016-06-25 16:16:42] raykurzweil : elmorte: Was during the first rise from the low 0.00s to 0.0178. I naively longed about 16000ETH at the top. Bought into ETH at 40cents and started gambling. I'm a developer and knew very little about trading at the time. [2016-06-25 16:18:00] elmorte : raykurzweil: could've ordered a nice pizza with it... [2016-06-25 16:20:00] rapidtrades : raykurzweil: do u know more now? [2016-06-25 16:20:07] rapidtrades : how long ago did u blow up [2016-06-25 16:20:08] raykurzweil : elmorte: A really nice pizza. Basically lost a lifechanging amount. I was stupified at the time from the gains. Learnt alot about myself though ;) [2016-06-25 16:21:04] rapidtrades : if it makes u feel better, ether will be worth close to 0 in few years [2016-06-25 16:21:35] raykurzweil : rapidtrades: Bout 4 months ago. Yeah, I know a lot more know. Managed to trade a lot back. [2016-06-25 16:21:46] raykurzweil : rapidtrades: Haha what makes you think that? [2016-06-25 16:22:04] rapidtrades : it's chargeback coin now, dead [2016-06-25 16:22:31] rapidtrades : community are a bunch of whiny self-entitled millenials [2016-06-25 16:22:59] rapidtrades : imo :) [2016-06-25 16:26:14] justinlooking : 0.02 is close to 0 [2016-06-25 16:26:49] tscha : justinlooking: do me a favor and tell me once you get out though [2016-06-25 16:27:07] tscha : justinlooking: don't wanna be left hanging in there alone :) [2016-06-25 16:28:39] justinlooking : tscha: ok will let u know [2016-06-25 16:29:34] ayy_lmao : alright guys [2016-06-25 16:29:38] ayy_lmao : time for some rapid trades [2016-06-25 16:30:16] elmorte : ayy_lmao: good luck. Scalper's market atm [2016-06-25 16:30:19] justinlooking : tscha: but to give u an idea, my will be below 550 (not 650) [2016-06-25 16:30:26] elmorte : Not that I'm complaining [2016-06-25 16:30:29] justinlooking : *my stop [2016-06-25 16:30:40] tscha : justinlooking: what was your entry? [2016-06-25 16:31:45] elmorte : I think he just likes to watch @tscha [2016-06-25 16:31:54] justinlooking : lol [2016-06-25 16:32:07] justinlooking : best guess is entry around 620 [2016-06-25 16:32:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 20 @ 675.01 [2016-06-25 16:33:01] ayy_lmao : oh yes [2016-06-25 16:33:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 500 @ 674.77 [2016-06-25 16:33:08] ayy_lmao : rapid trades lets go [2016-06-25 16:33:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1 @ 673.59 :punch: :whale: [2016-06-25 16:33:24] macios15 : rekt incoming [2016-06-25 16:33:25] ayy_lmao : rekt bot on point [2016-06-25 16:33:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1978 @ 669.55 [2016-06-25 16:33:27] REKT : Next stop - goblin town! [2016-06-25 16:33:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7500 @ 670.11 [2016-06-25 16:33:28] tscha : justinlooking: similar to mine then, I got in at about 630 [2016-06-25 16:33:30] ayy_lmao : lmao [2016-06-25 16:33:33] ayy_lmao : instant 70% profit [2016-06-25 16:33:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1499 @ 665.80 [2016-06-25 16:33:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 888 @ 663.27 [2016-06-25 16:33:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 663.43 [2016-06-25 16:33:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 664.96