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[2016-06-22 18:31:08] Rado : interesting times for sure
[2016-06-22 18:31:18] Rado : calling a bottom ever min is not good
[2016-06-22 18:31:28] Rado : it will take days for BTC to bottom out
[2016-06-22 18:31:36] Tetsuo : Rado: i agree on that one
[2016-06-22 18:31:39] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-06-22 18:31:40] Tetsuo : no need to fomo now
[2016-06-22 18:31:52] wurstgelee : thats why its so funny when rapidtrades calls bottom 5 mins after a new low
[2016-06-22 18:32:03] Rado : lol
[2016-06-22 18:32:16] Rado : he wants to get on the next $200 increase
[2016-06-22 18:32:25] wurstgelee : i witnessed at least twice within an hour =)
[2016-06-22 18:33:07] Tetsuo : LTC/BTC really gut flushed down today, again, lulz
[2016-06-22 18:42:01] Tetsuo : probably goin so low, that everyone will get wiped ot, like 2-2,50$ LTC/USD
[2016-06-22 18:46:04] rapidtrades : welcome to trading Chinacoin
[2016-06-22 18:46:13] jung1 : IM suprised that tlc is still alive
[2016-06-22 18:46:16] rapidtrades : they mine it, they own the exchanges, they dump it
[2016-06-22 18:46:52] rapidtrades : if they don't want it to go up, guess what, you can't buy
[2016-06-22 18:47:58] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: follow the trend
[2016-06-22 18:48:12] Rado : I don't see a use of LTC
[2016-06-22 18:48:16] jung1 : follow your dreams
[2016-06-22 18:48:17] arbitrage001 : profit comes easier that way
[2016-06-22 18:48:22] rapidtrades : shut up u couldn't even keep an arb open
[2016-06-22 18:48:26] Rado : it was the first alt coin that's all
[2016-06-22 18:48:38] Rado : many better coins for different purposes now than LTC
[2016-06-22 18:49:55] Tetsuo : "the only reason why LTC is still big is CHINA, the only reason it will get pumped up more than any other altcoin is CHINA. the reason why ETH will never get big CHINA" Donald Trum 2016
[2016-06-22 18:50:00] rapidtrades : sry about that outburst...not ur fault :)
[2016-06-22 18:52:03] rapidtrades : its so frustrating the way this rally was killed...with paused with okc shenanigans then finished off with incompetence by finex
[2016-06-22 18:53:15] wurstgelee : no reason not to trade the bounce tho
[2016-06-22 18:55:10] Tetsuo : we probably need to go down to 500$ to wipe out those finex margin longs
[2016-06-22 18:55:25] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-06-22 18:55:31] Tetsuo : after that a rallye to a new ATh can start
[2016-06-22 18:56:01] Rune : 1,000,000 contract shot on btc never seen that before
[2016-06-22 18:56:16] wurstgelee : there were 1.7m a few days ago
[2016-06-22 18:56:19] wurstgelee : liquidation
[2016-06-22 18:56:36] justinlooking : https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/liquidation
[2016-06-22 18:57:02] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: you mean a few hours ago
[2016-06-22 18:57:03] wurstgelee : thanks =)
[2016-06-22 18:57:16] wurstgelee : see link above
[2016-06-22 18:57:31] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: there were 1.7 m a few hours ago?
[2016-06-22 18:57:38] wurstgelee : then we had that at least twice
[2016-06-22 18:57:39] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-06-22 18:58:17] Rado : DPE going down
[2016-06-22 19:00:31] tscha : justinlooking: you saw iceland - austria? :)
[2016-06-22 19:00:39] tscha : oh god we are so bad...
[2016-06-22 19:01:01] justinlooking : was watching hun v por
[2016-06-22 19:01:04] justinlooking : saw the last goal
[2016-06-22 19:01:15] zanza : WTF
[2016-06-22 19:01:21] zanza : is that a 1 mil liquidation ?
[2016-06-22 19:01:29] rapidtrades : no
[2016-06-22 19:01:34] Rune : ha
[2016-06-22 19:01:37] rapidtrades : its cool don't worry about it
[2016-06-22 19:01:43] Rune : 1 mil liq would be crazy
[2016-06-22 19:01:56] zanza : look at the orderbook
[2016-06-22 19:02:05] zanza : 1043218 at 633
[2016-06-22 19:02:07] tscha : justinlooking: I am glad we dropped out
[2016-06-22 19:02:12] tscha : this team doesn't deserve it
[2016-06-22 19:03:10] tscha : Alaba was probably the worst player in the whole tournament, last game against Portugal he had I think 55% successful passes
[2016-06-22 19:03:12] zanza : do you guys see that order?
[2016-06-22 19:03:15] zanza : `633.00 1043218 1089668`
[2016-06-22 19:03:19] Tetsuo : knock knock
[2016-06-22 19:03:24] zanza : aww they took out code?
[2016-06-22 19:03:26] tscha : players in the 5th league have better stats
[2016-06-22 19:03:38] wurstgelee : https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/liquidation
[2016-06-22 19:03:41] wurstgelee : it is a 1m liquidation
[2016-06-22 19:03:56] wurstgelee : and its whats causing the DPE
[2016-06-22 19:03:58] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-06-22 19:04:14] wurstgelee : move away from it -> higher dpe
[2016-06-22 19:04:23] zanza : ` "symbol":"XBTUSD","side":"Sell","price":632.9,"leavesQty":1019709} `
[2016-06-22 19:04:28] zanza : WTF lol
[2016-06-22 19:04:29] Tetsuo : so´if we drop to 500$ how high will DPE get?
[2016-06-22 19:04:37] zanza : close to 9000 Tetsuo
[2016-06-22 19:04:43] wurstgelee : dunno, someone do the math please
[2016-06-22 19:04:44] Tetsuo : fuck yeah
[2016-06-22 19:04:44] rapidtrades : 99%?
[2016-06-22 19:04:48] wurstgelee : but prob over 9000
[2016-06-22 19:04:51] wurstgelee : haha
[2016-06-22 19:04:52] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-06-22 19:04:58] zanza : :)
[2016-06-22 19:05:19] rapidtrades : at some [pont the sellers should stop selling i think
[2016-06-22 19:05:21] Rune : think bitcoin can fall below the 4000cny support?
[2016-06-22 19:05:26] zanza : was there a REKT announce for that big liquidation?
[2016-06-22 19:05:37] wurstgelee : Rune: sure no, can yes
[2016-06-22 19:05:39] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-06-22 19:06:01] Rune : I think if bitcoin drops past 4000 cny we are going to 460 USD what do you think?
[2016-06-22 19:06:11] wurstgelee : uh. no
[2016-06-22 19:06:24] Rune : the long term chat is gonna look like a reverse head and shoulders
[2016-06-22 19:06:32] Rune : is what I was thinking
[2016-06-22 19:07:17] Rado : did you guys see this bid on Bitfinex at 630
[2016-06-22 19:07:19] wurstgelee : maybe. personally i just dont think it will go that low
[2016-06-22 19:07:20] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-06-22 19:07:23] Johnster : Any pine script junkies in here?
[2016-06-22 19:07:42] wurstgelee : Rado: nope?
[2016-06-22 19:07:52] wurstgelee : oh
[2016-06-22 19:07:54] wurstgelee : 1k
[2016-06-22 19:08:06] Rado : 1121 BTC
[2016-06-22 19:08:07] Mike : Bitcoin is dead.
[2016-06-22 19:08:09] Mike : RIP
[2016-06-22 19:08:14] Rado : lol Mike
[2016-06-22 19:08:14] rapidtrades : frustrating as well man but that's the game we playing
[2016-06-22 19:08:30] rapidtrades : moveon.org
[2016-06-22 19:08:31] Mike : Liquidated 3 times on long positions over the past 2 days LOL
[2016-06-22 19:08:38] Tedy : When you got liqudatet dont that mean you are selling ?
[2016-06-22 19:08:46] Rado : Mike you were late to go long
[2016-06-22 19:08:53] Mike : Ikr...
[2016-06-22 19:08:55] Mike : Oh well
[2016-06-22 19:08:57] Rado : the last 3 days the trend was down so you should have been short
[2016-06-22 19:09:15] Mike : I was trying to call the bottom.. Learnt never to try to call the bottom.
[2016-06-22 19:09:21] Rado : actually the trend is still down
[2016-06-22 19:09:30] wurstgelee : Tedy: the opposite of ur position. so if u were long, liquidation is a sell order
[2016-06-22 19:09:31] rapidtrades : in retrospect that's easy to say :)
[2016-06-22 19:09:34] Rado : I make the same mistake too often
[2016-06-22 19:09:40] Rado : try to catch a top or a bottom
[2016-06-22 19:09:47] Rado : so much easier to trade with the trend
[2016-06-22 19:09:52] Tedy : wurstgelee: Where can I find this order then ?
[2016-06-22 19:09:56] Mike : Yeah, oh well. I'm a small timer, I've only lost like 300$
[2016-06-22 19:09:57] rapidtrades : the trend is still up ffs
[2016-06-22 19:10:08] wurstgelee : Tedy: nowhere if its already executed
[2016-06-22 19:10:09] Rado : rapidtrades: up only on daily
[2016-06-22 19:10:16] rapidtrades : exactly
[2016-06-22 19:10:18] Rado : not on any other smaller timeframe
[2016-06-22 19:10:26] Rune : we dropped 3 steps
[2016-06-22 19:10:34] Tedy : Rado: But it is not possible to look what price it was executed on ?
[2016-06-22 19:10:50] rapidtrades : we are close to ending on daily too tho....one more day of red will prolly kill it
[2016-06-22 19:11:25] Rado : rapidtrades: sometimes it dips under and then reverses violently
[2016-06-22 19:11:40] wurstgelee : Tedy: u should have received an email with that info
[2016-06-22 19:11:47] Rado : so it could dump to $560 and then go up fast to $680
[2016-06-22 19:11:47] rapidtrades : we'll see @Rado
[2016-06-22 19:11:59] Rado : yeah a lot of possibilities
[2016-06-22 19:12:26] wurstgelee : after all its buttcorn
[2016-06-22 19:12:35] wurstgelee : almost anything possible
[2016-06-22 19:12:42] Mike : Thats the problem, so many possibilities!
[2016-06-22 19:13:08] wurstgelee : more variables than other markets, more risk, bigger gains, greater losses
[2016-06-22 19:13:11] wurstgelee : #bitcoin
[2016-06-22 19:13:18] Mike : ^^ (Y)
[2016-06-22 19:13:35] wurstgelee : more fun as well tho
[2016-06-22 19:13:35] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-06-22 19:24:03] asdfman : 1,2k wall in almost one bite
[2016-06-22 19:27:20] Tetsuo : no onme will save the sorry asses of the stubborn marginers on finex, they might have to shut down their bucket shop, if china goes below 500$, after that rallye 2013 style :-D
[2016-06-22 19:27:41] Tetsuo : it´s not like there haven´t been enough warning signs
[2016-06-22 19:29:07] aethlios : big day tomorrow.
[2016-06-22 19:29:15] arbitrage001 : Tetsuo: finex is bucket shop?
[2016-06-22 19:30:22] aethlios : finex is just fine, only from margin fees 15% of daily interest that they receive they make millions.
[2016-06-22 19:30:45] Tetsuo : finex is run by crooks usin crooks methods, for a few years now, probably broke already. china will take their main competitor out if they have the chance too
[2016-06-22 19:31:22] arbitrage001 : what crook method?
[2016-06-22 19:31:32] arbitrage001 : i have some btc on finex, should i be worry?
[2016-06-22 19:31:38] Tetsuo : withdraw em
[2016-06-22 19:31:44] Tetsuo : vetter safe than sorry
[2016-06-22 19:31:45] aethlios : Tetsuo: everyone says the same for all exchanges. If we listen to you people we shouldn't trade btc at all.
[2016-06-22 19:32:01] Tetsuo : aethlios: never saifd anything about stamp or btc-e
[2016-06-22 19:34:53] aethlios : Tetsuo: Not you but others do, they say about okcoin futures, in tradingview they say bitmex is broke, bitstamp was hacked, polo 2 years ago was hacked. bitfinex most stable exchange from the start and never hacked.
[2016-06-22 19:35:15] Tetsuo : theri database and code is so fucked up, i tried to give them hints about their fucked up code, that they can fix it, i demanded only 50BTC for it. a week later someone else exploited it , and it flashcrashed to 100$, i still have the emails, arrogance and stupidty is a b ad
[2016-06-22 19:35:36] Tetsuo : mixture
[2016-06-22 19:36:09] Tetsuo : they didn´t care when i told them that they had a serious problem
[2016-06-22 19:37:04] Tetsuo : aethlios: Gox also never admitted that they hd been hacked, they just continued with BTCs made out of air, until too many ppl tried to withdraw
[2016-06-22 19:37:18] aethlios : Tetsuo: I say to everybody. Don't trust any exchange, so I use 4 most high volume exchanges (Bitmex, bitfinex, polo, okcoin futures) so I keep trading and don't risk more than 30% of my funds. Also If profitable I withdraw 50% of gains out of crypto each month. That's the way to minimize counterparty risk and keep trading.
[2016-06-22 19:37:38] Tetsuo : aethlios: sounds reasonable to me!
[2016-06-22 19:38:04] mrp1nk : Tetsuo: nice call btw.
[2016-06-22 19:38:28] Tetsuo : mrp1nk: thx
[2016-06-22 19:39:18] rapidtrades : $200 premium on sept ppl...its only $25 on okc
[2016-06-22 19:39:21] rapidtrades : do the f math
[2016-06-22 19:39:46] aethlios : Tetsuo: Gox stopped making fiat withdrawals many months before stop making btc withdrawals. Any reasonable trader would have left, also their 200 spread was a red flat (you see the cheese but no the trap) so people bought 800 btc to stamp to sell 1000 to gox.
[2016-06-22 19:39:52] mrp1nk : are you ok rapid?
[2016-06-22 19:39:57] rapidtrades : this shit was trading at $50 premium before the rally
[2016-06-22 19:42:54] aethlios : rapidtrades: go long sept okoin and short swap to receive interest in new uptrend and also gain the spread, move btc to cover margin, easily can leverage 2x
[2016-06-22 19:43:52] rapidtrades : stopped trading at okc week ago
[2016-06-22 19:44:39] rapidtrades : no point trading at fake prices
[2016-06-22 19:45:09] mrp1nk : Tetsuo: doesn't sound good with finex. i'm also reading that they stopped responding to support ticket because of non working stops....
[2016-06-22 19:46:02] rapidtrades : are withdrawals still going ok
[2016-06-22 19:46:38] mrp1nk : on finex?
[2016-06-22 19:47:24] mrp1nk : dunno tbh, i'm not trading there
[2016-06-22 19:47:41] BitMEX_Sam : It's sad to see how many technical problems exchanges keep having
[2016-06-22 19:48:01] BitMEX_Sam : With the money that some of them are making, they could easily afford to hire the right people
[2016-06-22 19:48:30] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Sam: bitmex could do better than finex if do it right
[2016-06-22 19:48:46] BitMEX_Sam : We're a different type of market though, we don't have any plans to offer spot trading in the near future
[2016-06-22 19:49:27] Tetsuo : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4pc74a/cant_withdrawal_from_bitfinex/
[2016-06-22 19:51:44] MarketQ : I cant beleive people are buying up ETH after such a big hack of their star project. ETH may not have been hacked but if ETH contracts can be this buggy and remain unknown till its too late it creates an enormous barrier to entry for any contract
[2016-06-22 19:52:07] rapidtrades : it's always been a manipulated market
[2016-06-22 19:52:12] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : When do we get the DPE.. every 8 hours or 24 hours after rebalance?
[2016-06-22 19:52:22] MarketQ : Now I have very little faith in contracts and dont have the money or time to review each ones code
[2016-06-22 19:52:24] rapidtrades : they did an IPO. this is how thy're spending ur monies
[2016-06-22 19:53:17] MarketQ : I dont have ETH I just beleive so strongly in Bitcoin. I trade on Bitmex so that I can keep the vast majority of my funds in cold storage. you dig.
[2016-06-22 19:53:29] rapidtrades : yea
[2016-06-22 19:53:48] rapidtrades : not a bad idea although that exposes u to DPE more
[2016-06-22 19:54:35] MarketQ : DPE?
[2016-06-22 19:54:43] rapidtrades : clawback
[2016-06-22 19:54:51] MarketQ : ah
[2016-06-22 19:55:11] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : Does anyone know? When do we get the DPE.. every 8 hours or 24 hours after rebalance?
[2016-06-22 19:55:15] MarketQ : sure I just feel good cold storage is best.
[2016-06-22 19:55:21] rapidtrades : seafvasvsdvasvasdv: 24h
[2016-06-22 19:55:36] MarketQ : i cant really get goxxed this way
[2016-06-22 19:55:46] Tetsuo : ]therealbricky 21hours ago Had a withdrawal go missing a few hours ago (showing as 'Completed' on btfx, but not on the blockchain). Just me?
[2016-06-22 19:56:10] MarketQ : Do you think something is up at BFX
[2016-06-22 19:56:11] rapidtrades : true but say we crash 50% from here...DPE will be enormous and even a short won't protect u
[2016-06-22 19:56:47] BitMEX_Sam : seafvasvsdvasvasdv: It's 24h
[2016-06-22 19:56:51] rapidtrades : is smth up? sure they're idiots that's what's up
[2016-06-22 19:56:59] BitMEX_Sam : See the "Rebalance" time at the top right. 16hrs from now.
[2016-06-22 19:57:06] MarketQ : Like honestly no good reason for this dump and its pretty low so my spidy senses is telling me here is a good place to buy
[2016-06-22 19:58:11] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : BitMEX_Sam: thanks!
[2016-06-22 19:59:32] rapidtrades : MarketQ: major confidence hit with okc halting buying at the top of the rally and finex going under
[2016-06-22 19:59:48] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : And if DPE is 4%, you will loose 4% of your profits? Or will BitMex first take BTC from the system profit / pool?
[2016-06-22 20:00:00] rapidtrades : ppl not trusting exchanges and i dont blame em tbh
[2016-06-22 20:04:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 12500 @ 621.02
[2016-06-22 20:05:14] zanza : pool LOL
[2016-06-22 20:05:59] MarketQ : Why would you trust others with your money ? What has anyone gained from day trading Bitcoin vs the potential insane rise such a solid economic model that Bitcoin could provide, tomorrow, not after some magical Dapps been built. Dont forget the Primary main objective. The primary main objective is to defeat the evil power and the only way to know the evil power is to collect them all. So get to it. [Southpark reference]
[2016-06-22 20:07:14] MarketQ : So keep most of your Bitcoin in Cold storage and use this wonderful site to trade with leverage so you are not exposed to hacks.
[2016-06-22 20:07:57] wurstgelee : we can all read this, right?
[2016-06-22 20:08:00] zanza : why do so many people play bitcoin dice? :)
[2016-06-22 20:08:11] Tetsuo : money, greed, jesus
[2016-06-22 20:08:14] MarketQ : Gambling is a very real problem.
[2016-06-22 20:08:36] zanza : anything over a small amont of levrage is basically gambling
[2016-06-22 20:08:46] MarketQ : Have any of you heard of Pochinko slots. Its a mix of an arcade and a Casino thats very popular in Japan
[2016-06-22 20:08:48] zanza : arguably any leverage is gambling
[2016-06-22 20:09:47] Tetsuo : the abscence of even the slightest notable bounce is a bit worrysome
[2016-06-22 20:09:57] rapidtrades : no shit
[2016-06-22 20:10:06] wurstgelee : yeah
[2016-06-22 20:10:11] MarketQ : Allot of gambling has to do with stimulating the release of Dopamine in the brain. See Dopamine isnt released when something good happens its released in anticipation of something good happening.
[2016-06-22 20:10:18] wurstgelee : well, everybody scared i guess
[2016-06-22 20:10:22] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-06-22 20:10:50] Tetsuo : fomo buyers still holdin, will sell into my 450-520$ bids :_D
[2016-06-22 20:10:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 616.18
[2016-06-22 20:11:17] wurstgelee : so we either get a new low or it bounces off 4k again...
[2016-06-22 20:11:25] wurstgelee : we'll know soon ;)
[2016-06-22 20:12:13] MarketQ : You know its sick due to the low exchange rate between CAD and USD Bitcoin hit 1000 in Canada last week
[2016-06-22 20:12:54] MarketQ : Were any of you there when it was at 1000 USD and CAD and USD were at par. Canada got a taste of the good old days.
[2016-06-22 20:13:29] zanza : 4k coming fast
[2016-06-22 20:13:50] zanza : I think people blew their load early for halvening
[2016-06-22 20:14:07] wurstgelee : i never thought it will pump right through halvening date tbh
[2016-06-22 20:14:25] wurstgelee : there has to be some blood in between to sustain the pump
[2016-06-22 20:14:27] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-06-22 20:15:05] zanza : Coinbase and Paypal partnership is big news actually
[2016-06-22 20:15:10] hey : MarketQ: i remember bitcoin trading at par with the gold ounce. gox was siightly above
[2016-06-22 20:15:23] asdfman : zanza: wheres that?
[2016-06-22 20:15:30] hey : it was the peak day, think stamp was att 1160 at gox att 1220. gold was at 1200
[2016-06-22 20:15:36] asdfman : wishfull or actuall?
[2016-06-22 20:15:49] zanza : for 1 weeek? :)
[2016-06-22 20:15:51] aethlios : weak hands, margin longs will get liquidated first from whales and then the new up trend will begin.
[2016-06-22 20:15:55] zanza : http://qz.com/713528/paypal-is-warming-up-to-bitcoin/\
[2016-06-22 20:16:34] rapidtrades : there won't be a new uptrend ppl...f*ck ur delusional
[2016-06-22 20:16:55] wurstgelee : all in long bc he said so
[2016-06-22 20:16:58] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-06-22 20:17:22] rapidtrades : still long but won't be by tommorow like i said earlier
[2016-06-22 20:17:39] aethlios : rapidtrades: don't you remember 500 to 300?? same thing 790 to 610 (or 575 to margin call any longs above 600)
[2016-06-22 20:18:13] wurstgelee : aethlios: :) !
[2016-06-22 20:18:18] hey : not many margined longs left to liq out
[2016-06-22 20:18:37] Tetsuo : hey: on finex , sure there are
[2016-06-22 20:18:59] aethlios : hey: many will go short in the bottom from fear and will get liquidated first in the reversal.
[2016-06-22 20:19:04] gustavo7 : phew 2 cents from stop
[2016-06-22 20:19:07] rapidtrades : finex is perpetually long, doesn't mean anything
[2016-06-22 20:19:19] asdfman : zanza: nice
[2016-06-22 20:19:46] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: dude, it never was over 40m in any time of the history even when we were @ over 800$
[2016-06-22 20:20:11] rapidtrades : k
[2016-06-22 20:20:17] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : Anyone up to date about PayPal accepting Bitcoin in the future?
[2016-06-22 20:20:36] mrp1nk : rapidtrades: why you won't be long by tomorrow?
[2016-06-22 20:20:36] rapidtrades : yeah im up to date
[2016-06-22 20:20:42] rapidtrades : it aint happening
[2016-06-22 20:20:51] hey : https://blog.coinbase.com/2016/06/22/coinbase-adds-support-for-paypal-and-credit-cards/
[2016-06-22 20:20:57] rapidtrades : mrp1nk: if down move continues i'll be out, simple
[2016-06-22 20:21:12] MarketQ : I think there is an all out smearing of Bitcoin on Coindesk those guys really piss me off. Ill bet they trade and are highly impartial
[2016-06-22 20:21:15] aethlios : rapidtrades: you will sell the bottom.
[2016-06-22 20:21:25] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : rapidtrades: are you sure? http://qz.com/713528/paypal-is-warming-up-to-bitcoin/
[2016-06-22 20:21:27] mrp1nk : yeah, i remember that you said your liquidation price is around 630
[2016-06-22 20:21:29] gustavo7 : crypto-wise paypal is playing with the devil
[2016-06-22 20:21:31] mrp1nk : @rapid
[2016-06-22 20:21:42] mrp1nk : actually i thought this million liquidation was you
[2016-06-22 20:21:48] rapidtrades : mrp1nk: yeah that saw an arb, added funds
[2016-06-22 20:21:50] wurstgelee : mrp1nk: lolz
[2016-06-22 20:22:29] hey : any1 wathing the soccer?
[2016-06-22 20:22:32] mrp1nk : wurstgelee: why you lolling at me , wurst
[2016-06-22 20:22:35] rapidtrades : i dont trade anywhere close to millions unfortunately :)
[2016-06-22 20:23:25] Tetsuo : if finex is bankrupt we could get a SR 2013, that would be awesome
[2016-06-22 20:23:50] wurstgelee : we simply roll back. i heard forking is in
[2016-06-22 20:23:54] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-06-22 20:23:59] gustavo7 : i talked to a dev of braintree at a conference, credit card forms are BTs bread and butter altough their users could also accept btc with the forms
[2016-06-22 20:24:20] rapidtrades : is the best way to switch from cross to fixed pick a lower leverage or higher? don't want to get insta rekt with current moves
[2016-06-22 20:24:36] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: u cant
[2016-06-22 20:24:45] rapidtrades : i can i just forgot
[2016-06-22 20:24:49] wurstgelee : if u change, u get the leverage from current mark
[2016-06-22 20:24:51] wurstgelee : not from entry
[2016-06-22 20:25:05] rapidtrades : k smone else?
[2016-06-22 20:25:05] wurstgelee : *you cant get rekt by changing
[2016-06-22 20:25:15] wurstgelee : impossible
[2016-06-22 20:25:25] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: close your longs for fukks sake
[2016-06-22 20:25:27] rapidtrades : right but cos we're falling $5 per minute, i could get liqed soon
[2016-06-22 20:25:35] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: f off
[2016-06-22 20:25:42] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: then dont switch to max leverage ffs
[2016-06-22 20:25:44] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: suck my balls
[2016-06-22 20:25:50] wurstgelee : start with lowest (possible)
[2016-06-22 20:25:52] aethlios : rapidtrades: I am waiting you 100000 bid 585 price.
[2016-06-22 20:25:58] rapidtrades : k so lowest
[2016-06-22 20:26:14] rapidtrades : aethlios: liq is much lower then that but nice try
[2016-06-22 20:26:15] hey : when you get liq'ed here, do you end up with same pnl as if you had manually closed at the same price? looked a bit weird to me when getting rekt today
[2016-06-22 20:26:28] rapidtrades : nope u lose around 1.2% extra
[2016-06-22 20:26:50] hey : 1.2% on the pnl or of trade price?
[2016-06-22 20:27:04] rapidtrades : around $7-8 on each bitcoin
[2016-06-22 20:27:13] hey : ah ok that explains it, thx
[2016-06-22 20:27:14] j8 : its 0.5%, where do you get 1.2% from
[2016-06-22 20:27:22] rapidtrades : idk from the calc
[2016-06-22 20:27:33] rapidtrades : ask support
[2016-06-22 20:27:42] j8 : 0.5% is the maintenance margin
[2016-06-22 20:27:57] j8 : that's what you lose, beyond the pnl from closing at your liq price
[2016-06-22 20:27:58] rapidtrades : like i said ask support those are my figures
[2016-06-22 20:28:28] j8 : ok 0.5% plus exit commision plus funding rate
[2016-06-22 20:28:53] Rado : wow
[2016-06-22 20:28:58] Rado : DPE jumped even more?
[2016-06-22 20:33:19] wurstgelee : mark price lower -> dpe higher
[2016-06-22 20:34:58] lockhedge : DPE also depends on the adjustment base. if ppl with net profit close their shorts and ppl with a net loss are reducing their losses, adjustment base gets lower.
[2016-06-22 20:35:11] aethlios : we will have a reversal until the rebalance, dpe won't happen.
[2016-06-22 20:36:05] lockhedge : DPE would be relatively stable if just the mark price changes, because adjustable profits also rise
[2016-06-22 20:36:51] hey : does the "extra" liq loss (on top of the liq price) go to bitmex or the loss funding pool?
[2016-06-22 20:37:15] lockhedge : insurance fund
[2016-06-22 20:37:21] hey : ok ty
[2016-06-22 20:37:45] rapidtrades : Bitfinex has a daily proof of reserves so traders can see the amount of bitcoin in their account on the blockchain <<<is this true?
[2016-06-22 20:38:26] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: ?
[2016-06-22 20:38:41] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: ?
[2016-06-22 20:38:59] rapidtrades : where is support...haven't seen them all evening
[2016-06-22 20:39:12] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: Google is your friend
[2016-06-22 20:39:14] BitMEX_Sam : https://www.bitfinex.com/posts/39
[2016-06-22 20:39:22] rapidtrades : tnx
[2016-06-22 20:39:54] Tetsuo : if it ends bad you can sell your finexcoins on btcbuilder 2.
[2016-06-22 20:40:19] rapidtrades : u....i don't like YOU
[2016-06-22 20:40:26] Tetsuo : :-D
[2016-06-22 20:41:30] hey : any1 find info on how to actually verify bfx reserves?
[2016-06-22 20:41:45] rapidtrades : wondering that myself
[2016-06-22 20:41:46] Tetsuo : hey: no, those statements are actually just words
[2016-06-22 20:42:02] hey : interesting
[2016-06-22 20:42:03] Tetsuo : it doesn´t mean anything
[2016-06-22 20:42:40] Tetsuo : finex will integrate midas soon and everythinge will be fine
[2016-06-22 20:42:41] rapidtrades : u should be banned from the internet
[2016-06-22 20:42:48] j8 : hey: apparently if you make an account with bitgo you can verify your finex account
[2016-06-22 20:42:58] hey : ah
[2016-06-22 20:43:06] hey : somebody tried that?
[2016-06-22 20:43:16] j8 : i haven't. it's on the integrations page on bitfinex
[2016-06-22 20:43:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 8 @ 615.07
[2016-06-22 20:43:59] Rune : we are really ahead of china in price
[2016-06-22 20:44:18] aethlios : if brexit wins we will pump 300 usd in a day.
[2016-06-22 20:44:51] Moo : I wonder how big that hidden order at 620 is on finex
[2016-06-22 20:46:20] Moo : do you think he'll move it down if china goes down much further?
[2016-06-22 20:46:40] Rune : I am just hoping we break 4000 cny
[2016-06-22 20:46:53] Rune : so some action can happen
[2016-06-22 20:47:07] Tetsuo : moo: will be gone in 10.9.8
[2016-06-22 20:48:37] aethlios : the fed is the hidden finex order, buying from dumpy chinese.
[2016-06-22 20:54:33] wurstgelee : 620 still holding
[2016-06-22 20:54:36] wurstgelee : impressive
[2016-06-22 20:54:41] wurstgelee : reasonable sized iceberg
[2016-06-22 20:54:43] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-06-22 20:55:09] wurstgelee : not that it stands a chance ofc....
[2016-06-22 20:55:14] wurstgelee : and gone
[2016-06-22 20:55:15] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-06-22 20:55:16] Moo : does this guy not know he could get the coins for 615 or even 600 in a little bit?
[2016-06-22 20:55:18] Tetsuo : 3.2.1.boooom
[2016-06-22 20:55:55] wurstgelee : come on. smash 4k for daddy
[2016-06-22 20:58:27] aethlios : just withdaw 20 btc from finex. just keep the trolls away.
[2016-06-22 21:00:00] Tetsuo : BTC-E575$
[2016-06-22 21:01:00] gustavo7 : i'm in for a violent retrace up
[2016-06-22 21:02:09] wurstgelee : i appreciate violence in btc movements
[2016-06-22 21:02:36] rapidtrades : keep selling into the DPE morans
[2016-06-22 21:02:40] aethlios : already 0.5 fib correction 440 to 790 move.
[2016-06-22 21:03:12] jung1 : aethlios: when you open long?
[2016-06-22 21:04:28] aethlios : jung1: I opened 667, 570 and 525 are good prices fib 0.38 and fib 0.23
[2016-06-22 21:08:20] aethlios : jung1: I do a lot of arb I don't speculate a lot.
[2016-06-22 21:08:44] mjmj83 : aethlios: how do you arb if you can get losses of 15% due DPE?
[2016-06-22 21:09:12] mjmj83 : I think BitMex is only for gamble.. not for arbitrage
[2016-06-22 21:09:18] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2000 @ 620.37
[2016-06-22 21:09:29] rapidtrades : ok counceeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[2016-06-22 21:09:36] aethlios : mjmj83: usally I am short the futures to collect premium, usally dpe happens to longs, so I don't pay the dpe.
[2016-06-22 21:09:41] rapidtrades : ride this bitch to hell
[2016-06-22 21:09:52] mjmj83 : aethlios: how about this time?
[2016-06-22 21:10:03] rapidtrades : aethlios: DPE usually happens to shorts.....just shows how much u don't know
[2016-06-22 21:11:22] rapidtrades : that bounce was smth else huh fellas?
[2016-06-22 21:11:36] aethlios : mjmj83: if it happens ok, but we had 3% per day premium previous days. and you can leverage a little bit
[2016-06-22 21:12:05] rapidtrades : looks like a nic bounce but i said this before :)
[2016-06-22 21:12:20] rapidtrades : this is the one true bounce tho
[2016-06-22 21:12:25] mjmj83 : rapidtrades: please tell us what happens now.. :)
[2016-06-22 21:12:40] rapidtrades : 650 ez
[2016-06-22 21:12:54] jung1 : someone ern money and somene lose money
[2016-06-22 21:13:00] jung1 : thats happen
[2016-06-22 21:13:13] mjmj83 : rapidtrades: hehe, i hope yer right
[2016-06-22 21:14:24] mjmj83 : aethlios: how much USD are you short here then?
[2016-06-22 21:14:56] aethlios : mjmj83: now my dpe expected loss is around 1.1 btc.
[2016-06-22 21:15:10] mjmj83 : so around $100k :)
[2016-06-22 21:15:46] aethlios : mjmj83: I have reduced position to 100000 usd short because we went to discount.
[2016-06-22 21:16:05] aethlios : mjmj83: I was 500.000 at the top
[2016-06-22 21:16:13] mbaril : small correction
[2016-06-22 21:16:33] mjmj83 : you made good money then.. hehe
[2016-06-22 21:17:03] aethlios : mjmj83: Because of the bear move I started reducing positions and since swap in discount to finex I closed swap and opened short finex.
[2016-06-22 21:17:26] aethlios : mjmj83: I was 15% of open positions.
[2016-06-22 21:17:36] Rune : 4000 cny is harder then diamonds
[2016-06-22 21:17:39] mjmj83 : aethlios: lol
[2016-06-22 21:17:45] mjmj83 : well done
[2016-06-22 21:18:37] jung1 : Rune: same was said about 4900
[2016-06-22 21:19:27] gustavo7 : suppose i'm "hedging" with 1x and the price goes down, i get more btc and have positive pnl, will DPE hurt me?
[2016-06-22 21:19:44] aethlios : bears want to crush 600 to liquidate more longs and close their bear positions because of margin call sellers, let's see who wins.
[2016-06-22 21:20:13] mjmj83 : aethlios: go bulls go!
[2016-06-22 21:21:06] aethlios : mjmj83: You need risk management, no leverage, move funds around for margin and have big capital to catch 5% per month. So arb is a low return strategy and when volatility dies profits die also.
[2016-06-22 21:24:48] mjmj83 : aethlios: thanks
[2016-06-22 21:25:10] mjmj83 : you use a bot or manually?
[2016-06-22 21:25:54] aethlios : mjmj83: manually everything.
[2016-06-22 21:26:41] Rune : 4000 is to strong I am going long
[2016-06-22 21:26:49] Rune : bull time
[2016-06-22 21:27:02] Tetsuo : true dat
[2016-06-22 21:27:29] mjmj83 : aethlios: i see
[2016-06-22 21:27:49] mjmj83 : cool
[2016-06-22 21:28:09] mjmj83 : but you have had nothing to do for a long time.. since btc was quite stable
[2016-06-22 21:28:35] mjmj83 : like you said.. you need volatility..
[2016-06-22 21:28:52] aethlios : mjmj83: yes volatility important.
[2016-06-22 21:29:08] Rune : love it when it makes me money
[2016-06-22 21:29:13] Rune : otherwise I hate it
[2016-06-22 21:30:12] asdfman : Rune: you think its done with so fast?
[2016-06-22 21:30:24] Rune : The drop?
[2016-06-22 21:30:53] Rune : it's been going down for like a week
[2016-06-22 21:31:27] Rune : I think the halving hype will drive new highs
[2016-06-22 21:31:59] Rune : I think the drop ending at 4000 is very possible
[2016-06-22 21:32:36] aethlios : okcoin weekly had a triple bottom 605
[2016-06-22 21:32:53] asdfman : 4k.. I mean 4,2k took some time
[2016-06-22 21:33:32] rapidtrades : the woodchipper weekly can suck my pee pee
[2016-06-22 21:33:58] asdfman : hate trading at that place. keep getting fucked
[2016-06-22 21:34:48] mbaril : why are we below all us exchange ?
[2016-06-22 21:35:04] jung1 : we can predict future
[2016-06-22 21:35:08] mbaril : need to reach 626
[2016-06-22 21:35:10] jung1 : yhis is why
[2016-06-22 21:36:05] Rune : At some point ppl will see a good entry point to buy in for the halving bubble
[2016-06-22 21:36:09] rapidtrades : index is swrong
[2016-06-22 21:36:12] rapidtrades : support fix
[2016-06-22 21:36:21] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-06-22 21:36:24] mbaril : 627 :P
[2016-06-22 21:36:30] mbaril : free coin for me
[2016-06-22 21:37:03] rapidtrades : smone page sam pls
[2016-06-22 21:37:20] rapidtrades : Bitmex_Sam:
[2016-06-22 21:37:21] j8 : whats wrong with it
[2016-06-22 21:37:38] rapidtrades : nvm seems ok now
[2016-06-22 21:37:42] wurstgelee : apparantly its below us exchanges
[2016-06-22 21:37:47] wurstgelee : someone call the cops
[2016-06-22 21:37:48] rapidtrades : it lagged a bit, everyone was at 627 here 623
[2016-06-22 21:37:50] wurstgelee : *e
[2016-06-22 21:38:39] j8 : okcoin and bitstamp weren't at 627
[2016-06-22 21:39:51] Rune : coinbase added paypal and credit card support so when the next bitcoin bubble happens normies can buy bitcoins on credit great
[2016-06-22 21:40:28] rapidtrades : can i sell coins for paypalz tho
[2016-06-22 21:40:44] Rune : yes
[2016-06-22 21:40:49] rapidtrades : niceeee
[2016-06-22 21:41:03] Tetsuo : leverage for joe the plumber, doesn´t sound too bad
[2016-06-22 21:41:04] Rune : Coinbase now accepts PayPal (for bitcoin sells) and credit cards (for bitcoin buys).
[2016-06-22 21:41:07] rapidtrades : that's only for Ameros tho?
[2016-06-22 21:41:59] Rune : so any time you want to spend bitcoin someone that does not accept it you dont have to use gyft or some shit
[2016-06-22 21:42:11] Rune : you can just use coinbase to fund paypal
[2016-06-22 21:42:18] Rune : and use a paypal debit card
[2016-06-22 21:42:21] mjmj83 : Rune: yep, next step is paypal accepting bitcoin
[2016-06-22 21:42:35] mjmj83 : (hopefully)
[2016-06-22 21:43:08] Rune : they wont directly
[2016-06-22 21:43:16] rapidtrades : stop selling into DPE....jesus u ppl lack some srs IQ points
[2016-06-22 21:43:17] Rune : they just partnered with coinbase
[2016-06-22 21:43:24] mjmj83 : it's a step
[2016-06-22 21:43:36] rapidtrades : who partnered with coinbase? paypal?
[2016-06-22 21:43:41] Rune : yes
[2016-06-22 21:43:45] rapidtrades : damn
[2016-06-22 21:44:02] Rune : https://blog.coinbase.com/2016/06/22/coinbase-adds-support-for-paypal-and-credit-cards/
[2016-06-22 21:44:13] mjmj83 : rapidtrades: told you rapid.. paypal's gonna accept bitcoin in the end.. hehe
[2016-06-22 21:44:13] rapidtrades : china doesn't care tho
[2016-06-22 21:45:04] rapidtrades : http://www.coindesk.com/us-regulators-recommends-oversight-bitcoin-distributed-ledgers/
[2016-06-22 21:47:13] rapidtrades : also this LOL http://www.coindesk.com/ethereum-developers-draining-dao/
[2016-06-22 21:47:42] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: could you add a contract filter to the Funding History page, like on the Trade History page?
[2016-06-22 21:47:56] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: :+1: will add it to the list
[2016-06-22 21:48:05] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: thanks Sam!
[2016-06-22 21:48:27] BitMEX_Sam : In the meantime you can use https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/funding?symbol=XBTUSD&reverse=true
[2016-06-22 21:48:41] micmix : cool, thanks
[2016-06-22 21:48:43] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: do u recall the "2 withdrawals but only received on confirmation email" problem?
[2016-06-22 21:48:57] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: Yeah. Still investigating where the message was lost.
[2016-06-22 21:49:03] wurstgelee : happened again
[2016-06-22 21:49:04] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-06-22 21:49:08] BitMEX_Sam : Interesting. Thanks
[2016-06-22 21:49:11] wurstgelee : np
[2016-06-22 21:49:18] gustavo7 : a rather violently stupid movement
[2016-06-22 21:49:40] luckynuke : hey trolls
[2016-06-22 21:49:57] gustavo7 : heyo
[2016-06-22 21:50:04] Rune : The only way I can see how much P/N I have is to have per category is to have a open position?
[2016-06-22 21:50:06] wurstgelee : hey lucky weapon of mass destruction
[2016-06-22 21:50:21] luckynuke : wurstgelee: hey wurstgele worst taste
[2016-06-22 21:50:24] Rune : I am wondering how much I have made on eth and lost on btc/usd
[2016-06-22 21:50:26] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-06-22 21:50:36] luckynuke : :D
[2016-06-22 21:51:10] luckynuke : hm maybe btc pump if gb leave ? :)
[2016-06-22 21:51:14] luckynuke : what do you think
[2016-06-22 21:51:32] gustavo7 : Rune: look at Closed Positions tab
[2016-06-22 21:52:14] Rune : lol I lost so much on XBTUSD
[2016-06-22 21:52:17] Rune : wow
[2016-06-22 21:52:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 1 @ 65201.0 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-22 21:53:23] gustavo7 : britain may vote leave but the parliament not do anything about it because it isn't legally binding, after a change of parliament tough they would have a reason to campaign with it
[2016-06-22 21:53:50] gustavo7 : i think they will hair-thin vote stay and then be a total d about it
[2016-06-22 21:54:20] luckynuke : but britains will demonstrate i think. many people will go on the streets and make a protest march
[2016-06-22 21:54:40] rapidtrades : noone cares
[2016-06-22 21:54:52] wurstgelee : the queen will wave a few times at them to calm them down
[2016-06-22 21:54:53] wurstgelee : np
[2016-06-22 21:55:29] luckynuke : lol
[2016-06-22 21:55:48] gustavo7 : time for churchills ghost to give a speech
[2016-06-22 21:56:17] rapidtrades : time for everyon to shut up about Britain
[2016-06-22 21:56:20] rapidtrades : noone cares
[2016-06-22 21:56:22] rapidtrades : srsly
[2016-06-22 21:56:32] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: stop being salty, its only money
[2016-06-22 21:58:06] rapidtrades : im not being salty, just sick of retards trading on news that have 0 connection
[2016-06-22 21:58:15] rapidtrades : ur just creating noise....f off
[2016-06-22 21:59:30] cekseh : Human nature tries to find patterns where none may exist
[2016-06-22 21:59:39] cekseh : If you thought that information was actionable you should have used it