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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-06-22 06:01:22] Rado : My bot is still long eth, but i shorted 0.0224 [2016-06-22 06:02:42] rapidtrades : anyone plans to stay up for referendum results [2016-06-22 06:03:05] Rado : When is that? [2016-06-22 06:03:16] rapidtrades : tommorow evening [2016-06-22 06:03:26] rapidtrades : early friday to be exact [2016-06-22 06:04:16] Rado : I will be up I think [2016-06-22 06:04:45] rapidtrades : ok cool [2016-06-22 06:04:56] BTCDJS : Apology accepted [2016-06-22 06:06:12] rapidtrades : Japanese Mint Employee Stole 15Kg Gold Bar "To Cover FX Trading Losses" [2016-06-22 06:06:27] Rado : Lol [2016-06-22 06:06:29] zanza : gold and silver got hit pretty hard [2016-06-22 06:06:40] Rado : Japanese trade a lot [2016-06-22 06:09:12] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Wally: any chance the pricing spreadsheet will get updated? [2016-06-22 06:09:40] rapidtrades : sept should get more volume once june expires [2016-06-22 06:10:23] Rado : Is j8 still trading? [2016-06-22 06:10:41] rapidtrades : dunno seen him around tho [2016-06-22 06:10:50] BTCDJS : Ha ha just remembered this video I saw. Chinese CEO spanking his employees for under performing at work. [2016-06-22 06:11:05] rapidtrades : dispensing wisdom and shit [2016-06-22 06:11:56] BTCDJS : He lined them up in a row on a stage and smacked them with a plank 4 times each [2016-06-22 06:12:34] rapidtrades : watching it rught now [2016-06-22 06:12:42] BTCDJS : thatll sort em out [2016-06-22 06:13:39] rapidtrades : he did it in public too, that's whats so crazy about it [2016-06-22 06:14:15] rapidtrades : if he left the women out ppl would laugh at the video [2016-06-22 06:14:34] BTCDJS : If he tried to hit me I would knock him the f*ck out [2016-06-22 06:15:20] rapidtrades : banks are tied with the goverment over there, that won't go well for u [2016-06-22 06:15:33] rapidtrades : prolly why he got away with it [2016-06-22 06:16:02] BTCDJS : gotta go to work now. Later... [2016-06-22 06:16:16] rapidtrades : bye [2016-06-22 06:16:27] Rado : Later [2016-06-22 06:26:57] Rado : I should trade my own ideas [2016-06-22 06:27:04] Rado : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/mnJpcZln-One-possible-scenario-for-BTC/ [2016-06-22 06:27:11] Rado : Click play [2016-06-22 06:27:33] Rado : Timing and pric [2016-06-22 06:27:40] Rado : Price [2016-06-22 06:29:38] hey : ... size [2016-06-22 06:36:40] Skuffone : if you hold a position for 5 days and the swap cost was .3% does that mean you pay .9%? [2016-06-22 06:36:53] Skuffone : sorry 1.5% [2016-06-22 06:36:56] Skuffone : ? [2016-06-22 06:37:22] hey : on btc is paid or received every 8 hours [2016-06-22 06:37:30] hey : IT is [2016-06-22 06:37:53] hey : so yes .3% for 5 days is 1.5 [2016-06-22 06:38:01] Skuffone : that is farked [2016-06-22 06:38:07] hey : .3% / 24 hours that is [2016-06-22 06:38:34] hey : well, it cuts both ways. you can receive it as well and bitmex takes no cut [2016-06-22 06:39:22] Skuffone : So i have to keep the same amount as my margin on the exchange? [2016-06-22 06:40:06] hey : at least [2016-06-22 06:40:26] rapidtrades : hey: no it's actually 4.5% if the rate stays [2016-06-22 06:40:38] hey : yeah if it's like this true [2016-06-22 06:40:41] rapidtrades : it's per 8h interval [2016-06-22 06:41:03] hey : yeah wasnt clear on that [2016-06-22 06:41:18] Skuffone : ok here is a question - if i want to trade a leveraged long position in BTC and get paid the win in BTC how do i do it? [2016-06-22 06:41:47] hey : do you want to risk a limited amount or everything on your account? [2016-06-22 06:42:16] hey : any wins/losses are in btc at bitmex [2016-06-22 06:42:33] Skuffone : I can risk the whole account I'll just set it up like that with my max risk - yeah but i want a long term posiiton [2016-06-22 06:43:26] hey : size your margin so it covers whatever advierse price movement you are willing to eat. once the margin is lost your position is gone. [2016-06-22 06:43:46] hey : in other words, choose your position size carefully [2016-06-22 06:43:54] Skuffone : yep but the swap costs are not acceptable [2016-06-22 06:44:26] hey : im also new here, but i believe they are normally less [2016-06-22 06:45:06] Skuffone : still i'm thinking about a 6month trade [2016-06-22 06:45:07] hey : Skuffone: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory [2016-06-22 06:47:16] Skuffone : yeah but in my trade my margin is going to be 25% [2016-06-22 06:52:13] Skuffone : Hey [2016-06-22 06:52:15] Skuffone : https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTUSD [2016-06-22 06:52:24] Skuffone : Today, longs will pay 0.3069% [2016-06-22 06:52:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 181 @ 0.02328 [2016-06-22 06:55:17] hey : in 6 hours they will pay that yes, they it will change [2016-06-22 07:03:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 2 @ 0.02352 :punch: :whale: [2016-06-22 07:21:44] gustavo7 : hi, i'm 1x short (hedged) XBTUSD. if i close my position, when will i be able to withdraw everything in my account? daily? [2016-06-22 07:26:43] elmorte : Withdrawals are in 5.5 hrs, rebalance is in 4.5 hrs so you'll probably be able to withdraw everything at 13UTC [2016-06-22 07:27:29] elmorte : Submit withdrawal request within an hour of rebalance [2016-06-22 07:27:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 190 @ 0.02296 [2016-06-22 07:28:16] elmorte : Someone bought the peak? [2016-06-22 07:34:44] elmorte : I'm totally puzzled by ETH and DAO [2016-06-22 07:35:12] NukeLaloosh : elmorte: did you buy in? [2016-06-22 07:39:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 120 @ 0.02273 [2016-06-22 07:41:31] boolander : https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4p7mhc/update_on_the_white_hat_attack/ [2016-06-22 07:41:42] boolander : bad hacks vs good hacks [2016-06-22 07:49:46] NukeLaloosh : good article. better to let the hackers fight it out instead of violating blockchain immutability. fight fire with fire [2016-06-22 07:52:27] boolander : yeah, not sure i'd be rushing out to buy into a hack off though. especially on a 40% up day [2016-06-22 07:56:15] NukeLaloosh : true. there are 1153M tokens per 7.32M ETH, so that should be a price of .0066 eth per dao. DAOETH priced at a 11% premium here [2016-06-22 07:56:22] NukeLaloosh : to short here that is [2016-06-22 08:01:13] xzsd : Morning guys [2016-06-22 08:26:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 10 @ 0.02229 [2016-06-22 08:40:49] elmorte : NukeLaloosh: sold it all 2 days ago...scalping the way to the bottom. [2016-06-22 08:42:24] elmorte : I actually bought 60k DAO at 096 on top of my existing holding....sold at 105 after reading up on the issues within Ethereum [2016-06-22 08:43:06] elmorte : It's gone up 60% since [2016-06-22 08:51:43] xzsd : MARK PRICE dont getting price from finex? [2016-06-22 08:53:21] tscha : not now, but will be included in 3 hours [2016-06-22 08:53:28] tscha : check your mail [2016-06-22 08:55:13] ayy_lmao : why is mark price so low on xbt.usd [2016-06-22 08:55:25] ayy_lmao : is stamp and okcoin still 50%? [2016-06-22 08:55:44] BitMEX_Arthur : ayy_lmao: Yes [2016-06-22 08:55:50] BitMEX_Arthur : We haven't changed it since the announcement yesterday [2016-06-22 08:57:10] xzsd : hmm [2016-06-22 08:59:10] elmorte : Shouldn't Kaiko be more responsive to these changes? This is crypto, not FX [2016-06-22 09:00:34] rapidtrades : what's that supposed to mean [2016-06-22 09:01:12] elmorte : I read the bitmex index there...weight is calculated one a month [2016-06-22 09:01:32] rapidtrades : so [2016-06-22 09:01:48] elmorte : It means that if finex goes down, kaiko shouldn't wait 12 hrs to update the weights [2016-06-22 09:02:24] rapidtrades : maybe u should mind ur own bisuness huh elmorte [2016-06-22 09:02:52] wurstgelee : if no further outages of finex happen, mark price should go up more or less $10 at 12 utc [2016-06-22 09:03:24] rapidtrades : oh yeah? [2016-06-22 09:03:30] elmorte : rapidtrades: I don't have a bisuness pal [2016-06-22 09:04:03] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: maybe ou should read ur emails [2016-06-22 09:04:16] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: maybe u should learn MATHS [2016-06-22 09:04:18] rapidtrades : u tool [2016-06-22 09:04:42] wurstgelee : u seem salty. rekt again? [2016-06-22 09:04:53] rapidtrades : finex is 50% so it will go up by $5 only plus the premium of $2 = 7 [2016-06-22 09:05:12] ayy_lmao : shots fired [2016-06-22 09:05:13] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: i was never rekt, homie [2016-06-22 09:05:24] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: *close to rekt [2016-06-22 09:05:26] wurstgelee : better? [2016-06-22 09:05:30] elmorte : ayy_lmao: all blanks [2016-06-22 09:05:37] boolander : pew pew [2016-06-22 09:05:41] wurstgelee : 8) [2016-06-22 09:05:41] rapidtrades : elmorte: yeah cos my wallet malfunctioned [2016-06-22 09:05:58] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: your bullish call malfunctioned, thats y [2016-06-22 09:06:27] rapidtrades : how did it malfunction? im up over $200 per bitcoin [2016-06-22 09:07:35] wurstgelee : of which u would have way more [2016-06-22 09:08:37] rapidtrades : what [2016-06-22 09:10:16] rapidtrades : no actually if I listened to u and bailed on every weakness wouldn't have way more because I would've been out at $560, then $600 etc... [2016-06-22 09:12:00] wurstgelee : lolz no. i left camp bulltard just 2 days ago (for now) [2016-06-22 09:12:34] rapidtrades : u got lucky [2016-06-22 09:13:54] rapidtrades : 2 days ago when u made the call we were trading $30-40 from the highs...if u did that all throughout this rally you would be out 3-4 times already [2016-06-22 09:15:34] wurstgelee : but i didnt [2016-06-22 09:16:37] wurstgelee : also i dont go "out" (=to fiat) [2016-06-22 09:16:40] wurstgelee : i long or short [2016-06-22 09:19:08] xzsd : im out just waiting to fish [2016-06-22 09:34:04] haxmb : that funding rate :O [2016-06-22 09:34:20] haxmb : 0.3% wtf [2016-06-22 09:36:09] haxmb : oh well, jump in mark will be worth it [2016-06-22 09:38:40] BitMEX_Wally : Just a reminder that on Friday 12:00 UTC all our swaps will be moving to an 8 hour funding period, and daily rebalance [2016-06-22 09:39:19] BitMEX_Wally : And all swaps will have an 8 hour premium index which will be used to calculate the funding rate [2016-06-22 09:40:32] BitMEX_Wally : If the interest rate from Bitfinex/Poloniex is within 0.05% of the premium index then interest rate is used as the funding rate. [2016-06-22 09:41:00] BitMEX_Wally : Otherwise the funding rate is the interest rate capped/floored to be within 0.05% of the premium index [2016-06-22 09:42:12] BitMEX_Wally : So if the premium index is -0.01% and the interest rate is 0.03% then the funding rate is 0.03% [2016-06-22 09:42:50] BitMEX_Wally : If the premium index is -0.01% and the interest rate is 0.05% then the funding rate is capped at 0.04% [2016-06-22 09:43:02] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: it's interesting how it's going to work with 1% spreads [2016-06-22 09:43:43] BitMEX_Wally : If the interest rate is 0.10% and the premium index is 1% then the funding rate is 0.95% [2016-06-22 09:43:57] BitMEX_Wally : So it gets slightly skewed down [2016-06-22 09:45:39] micmix : I guess if the middle of the book tracks the mark price, spread doesn't really matter, it will get averaged out [2016-06-22 09:45:57] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, the goal is for the mark price to be within the bid/offer [2016-06-22 09:46:16] BitMEX_Wally : And for the bid/offer spread to be tight [2016-06-22 09:46:20] BitMEX_Wally : And for liquidity to be amazing [2016-06-22 09:46:28] BitMEX_Wally : And for Bitcoin to go to $2000 [2016-06-22 09:46:36] BitMEX_Wally : But one step at a time :) [2016-06-22 09:46:53] hey : :) [2016-06-22 09:47:01] boolander : thanks Wally [2016-06-22 09:47:20] micmix : yep, and for Ben's salary to get to 10btc per hour :wink: [2016-06-22 09:47:59] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: scratch all the early steps please, just do the $2000 btc step [2016-06-22 09:55:11] BitMEX_Wally : wurstgelee: Working on it [2016-06-22 09:55:39] ayy_lmao : lol [2016-06-22 09:55:52] ayy_lmao : need a buy only market here [2016-06-22 09:56:10] ayy_lmao : ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) [2016-06-22 09:56:58] BitMEX_Wally : China has one of those [2016-06-22 09:57:08] BitMEX_Wally : For stocks [2016-06-22 09:57:37] BitMEX_Wally : Selling is not allowed, only buying [2016-06-22 09:57:41] ayy_lmao : wut [2016-06-22 09:57:51] BitMEX_Wally : Which makes me wonder... who are they buying off? [2016-06-22 09:58:11] hey : the issuer obviously [2016-06-22 09:58:38] ayy_lmao : 2 spooky 4 m3 [2016-06-22 09:58:44] ayy_lmao : me [2016-06-22 09:59:41] BitMEX_Wally : hey: That only happens during the IPO [2016-06-22 09:59:57] BitMEX_Wally : http://on.ft.com/1MRYd4D [2016-06-22 10:06:48] jesperf : ugh, paywalled [2016-06-22 10:10:01] micmix : XBTJPY pump [2016-06-22 10:16:46] rapidtrades : +1 for buys only here [2016-06-22 10:19:20] janetyellen : how many you want me to buy? [2016-06-22 10:20:06] janetyellen : my milkshake brings all the bitcoins to the bar. [2016-06-22 10:20:18] rapidtrades : i could care less for an extra 1 contract [2016-06-22 10:24:18] arbitrage001 : hello [2016-06-22 10:24:26] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: hi [2016-06-22 10:24:29] arbitrage001 : any news on when finex price will be included [2016-06-22 10:24:36] arbitrage001 : on the premium index [2016-06-22 10:24:44] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: hey [2016-06-22 10:24:50] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: sup [2016-06-22 10:25:09] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: hello [2016-06-22 10:25:43] arbitrage001 : inaccurate index makes the price here hard to trade [2016-06-22 10:38:01] BitMEX_Arthur : arbitrage001: we sent an email out a few hours ago. Bitfinex will be added back at 12 UTC today [2016-06-22 10:38:15] BitMEX_Arthur : assuming they don't halt trading again [2016-06-22 10:42:19] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Arthur: ok thank you [2016-06-22 10:45:04] rapidtrades : this is bs....finex has been trading 10 dollars higher all day [2016-06-22 10:45:16] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: yes [2016-06-22 10:45:30] rapidtrades : god damit [2016-06-22 10:45:31] arbitrage001 : buy here and sell on finex for 1.3% profit [2016-06-22 10:45:52] arbitrage001 : assuming the premium becomes discount later [2016-06-22 10:46:20] rapidtrades : i already did that few days ago at much lwoer premium [2016-06-22 10:46:48] rapidtrades : so can't do shit now but get buttraped by fees [2016-06-22 10:46:55] arbitrage001 : right [2016-06-22 10:47:00] arbitrage001 : i have net 0 position [2016-06-22 10:47:10] arbitrage001 : just in case finex goes down again [2016-06-22 10:47:19] arbitrage001 : or premium here goes out of whack [2016-06-22 10:47:29] RoftheN : How to long bitcoin? [2016-06-22 10:48:01] arbitrage001 : RoftheN: buy bitcoin == long bitcoin [2016-06-22 10:48:12] arbitrage001 : positive amount [2016-06-22 10:48:37] boolander : exposure to bitcoin price fluctuations or an actual bitcoin? [2016-06-22 10:48:54] rapidtrades : no actual bitcoins here [2016-06-22 10:49:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 7 @ 0.02211 [2016-06-22 10:49:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 5 @ 0.02165 [2016-06-22 10:50:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 15 @ 0.02150 [2016-06-22 10:50:18] RoftheN : So if you long bitcoins here, no actual bitcoins will be bought? [2016-06-22 10:50:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 125 @ 0.02130 [2016-06-22 10:50:42] rapidtrades : RoftheN: no [2016-06-22 10:51:17] arbitrage001 : you can withdraw the profit. so it is partially "real" [2016-06-22 10:51:20] boolander : this is a derivatives exchange where products offered "derive" their prices from the underlying [2016-06-22 10:59:22] RoftheN : So if everyone here longs and BTC goes up, who pays the profit? [2016-06-22 10:59:52] arbitrage001 : RoftheN: see the order book [2016-06-22 10:59:56] arbitrage001 : not everyone is bull [2016-06-22 11:00:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 100 @ 0.01990 [2016-06-22 11:00:14] RoftheN : I know not everyone is bull. But what IF that was the case [2016-06-22 11:00:21] arbitrage001 : if everyone bet one direction, there will be no trading [2016-06-22 11:00:33] arbitrage001 : no transaction i mean [2016-06-22 11:00:38] RoftheN : Oh okay [2016-06-22 11:03:38] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 152 @ 0.02056 [2016-06-22 11:04:40] Skitrx : DAO whitehat child just got hacked [2016-06-22 11:06:18] RoftheN : no way [2016-06-22 11:06:40] boolander : what a sh1t show [2016-06-22 11:08:06] Skitrx : the donated ether into both splits and is now attacking both [2016-06-22 11:08:32] Skitrx : https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4p9z93/it_seems_attacker_just_targeted_the_whitehatdaos/ [2016-06-22 11:08:52] boolander : hack-off it is [2016-06-22 11:11:34] rapidtrades : lol what a joke ether has become [2016-06-22 11:12:00] rapidtrades : is that fucking coinbase nigger worried that he favorited the shitcoin? [2016-06-22 11:12:26] rapidtrades : doubtful such ppl never second-guess themselves [2016-06-22 11:13:44] rapidtrades : they're so desperate to keep price up they're buying shitloads [2016-06-22 11:14:09] boolander : “There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.” [2016-06-22 11:14:49] rapidtrades : bush was a wise man [2016-06-22 11:17:09] NukeLaloosh : lol they removed the funding info from daohub.org [2016-06-22 11:17:11] boolander : he was definitely misunderestimated at times [2016-06-22 11:18:55] jesperf : no, i think he just misunderstood most things that happened around him [2016-06-22 11:22:41] boolander : strategery [2016-06-22 11:24:57] laisee : A man who was vastly misunderestimated ... [2016-06-22 11:25:26] wurstgelee : nope. idiocracy [2016-06-22 11:25:31] wurstgelee : =) [2016-06-22 11:25:41] justinlooking : great film [2016-06-22 11:26:00] laisee : its got .... Electrolytes [2016-06-22 11:27:32] boolander : i like muh-nee [2016-06-22 11:52:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 400 @ 659.18 [2016-06-22 11:52:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 500 @ 660.01 [2016-06-22 12:00:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 159 @ 0.02083 [2016-06-22 12:04:49] Defcronyke : well those bitfinex outages and subsequent market crash ate through all my profits from the previous several days :( I guess it could have been worse though [2016-06-22 12:06:14] Defcronyke : that last outage was really bad timing for me [2016-06-22 12:06:25] markimarki : for everyone [2016-06-22 12:10:05] Avalanche : BitMEX_Arthur: Hi, the export to csv (trade history) is not working, just empty sheet [2016-06-22 12:12:40] haxmb : hey, i dont see the weights of bitfinex updated on kaiko [2016-06-22 12:12:43] haxmb : its still 0? [2016-06-22 12:26:00] BitMEX_Arthur : haxmb: No it is not, Bitfinex is 50%, the Kaiko graph on their site is stale, if you subscribe to the REST or Websocket API the correct weights are there [2016-06-22 12:26:16] BitMEX_Arthur : haxmb: We are asking them to update the graph [2016-06-22 12:28:36] Johnster : Damned... the chit needs to be on Tradingview. [2016-06-22 12:33:07] haxmb : BitMEX_Arthur: cheers [2016-06-22 12:34:57] macios15 : c'mon bitcoin do sth funny [2016-06-22 12:45:24] Skitrx : the markets gone full retard [2016-06-22 12:47:30] boolander : never go full rih-tard [2016-06-22 12:49:34] rapidtrades : bots are f nuts [2016-06-22 12:49:45] rapidtrades : yday they followed finex and jacked up the fees [2016-06-22 12:49:55] rapidtrades : cunts are now trading $10 below [2016-06-22 12:49:57] rapidtrades : cunts [2016-06-22 12:57:38] danilo : Good Morning, [2016-06-22 12:57:55] danilo : I realized a retreat, but so far is with the pending status. Could someone tell me qto long does it take to be removed from the BTCs? [2016-06-22 12:58:31] j8 : confirm it by e-mail [2016-06-22 12:58:47] danilo : ok [2016-06-22 12:59:05] danilo : I will check [2016-06-22 13:00:12] BitMEX_Wally : danilo: Click on the link saying "Please confirm the transaction by going to: " [2016-06-22 13:07:01] rapidtrades : can we put the selling on hold until tomorrow ktnx [2016-06-22 13:13:48] BTCDJS : Bears are winning [2016-06-22 13:20:29] rapidtrades : loool TSLA down 10% pre market [2016-06-22 13:20:42] rapidtrades : HOW'S THAT DEAL WORKING OUT MUSK [2016-06-22 13:21:16] boolander : non-gaaaaaaaap infinity [2016-06-22 13:21:18] j8 : i heard cars will be obsolete with the hyperloop anyway [2016-06-22 13:21:39] rapidtrades : right j8 i forgot about that [2016-06-22 13:21:46] gustavo7 : tsla cheap? gimme [2016-06-22 13:21:54] rapidtrades : go buy [2016-06-22 13:22:08] boolander : numbers on a screen [2016-06-22 13:22:15] rapidtrades : 197.52 [2016-06-22 13:22:39] boolander : -btc/+tlsa [2016-06-22 13:23:38] rapidtrades : it takes 3 teslas to buy 1 btc now [2016-06-22 13:23:54] danilo : Thank you for helping me. lacked the confirmation email. now it worked. thank you! [2016-06-22 13:24:21] rapidtrades : https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-just-kicked-shareholders-222904240.html [2016-06-22 13:25:09] xzsd : what is going on? [2016-06-22 13:25:18] boolander : thank you gubmint subsidies [2016-06-22 13:25:44] rapidtrades : Aside from the Musk family and an obvious commitment to environmental sustainability, the most important thing that these two companies have in common is cash burn. They do it a lot. [2016-06-22 13:27:41] boolander : i believe it's called mal-investment in some circles [2016-06-22 13:28:39] rapidtrades : from the comments: SURPRISE ! We're not a car company any more. Today, we're an energy company. Tomorrow, however, we'll be a comic book company. And next week, I think we'll manufacture death ray guns... [2016-06-22 13:29:54] boolander : hobby level = 11 [2016-06-22 13:30:45] rapidtrades : u know once this company goes to 0 everyone will be like ''Oh of course it went bankrupt, it never made any money and spent like crazy' [2016-06-22 13:31:06] rapidtrades : and they'll act like it was always meant to happen [2016-06-22 13:31:26] boolander : but, it "felt" good that they were trying to do the "right" thing. [2016-06-22 13:34:57] rapidtrades : HOLD THE LINE GOD DAMIT [2016-06-22 13:35:48] Tetsuo : Die BTC die! , sell this fukker to the ground [2016-06-22 13:36:08] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: truce until midnight? [2016-06-22 13:36:43] Tetsuo : okay [2016-06-22 13:37:02] rapidtrades : okc is gonna wish they never f*cked with the premium at the top of the rally [2016-06-22 13:37:33] rapidtrades : once this rally dies so will the volume [2016-06-22 13:38:07] boolander : when is midnight? [2016-06-22 13:39:04] rapidtrades : idk in 9 hrs [2016-06-22 13:39:24] rapidtrades : or 11 if we go by utc [2016-06-22 13:39:36] boolander : utc is dead to me [2016-06-22 13:39:50] rapidtrades : yeah i hate utc too [2016-06-22 13:46:56] rapidtrades : shouldn't eth crash agian with the new hack? or it doesn't matter anymore [2016-06-22 13:47:18] rapidtrades : we need a shitcoin expert in here [2016-06-22 13:47:26] boolander : where is jung? [2016-06-22 13:47:35] macios15 : dead [2016-06-22 13:47:36] rapidtrades : jung1: hey [2016-06-22 13:47:55] rapidtrades : macios15: wtf why would u say that [2016-06-22 13:49:27] Rado : LSK is pumping [2016-06-22 13:49:53] Tetsuo : ETH hacker got counter hacked and then counter hacked the counter hackers.. [2016-06-22 13:50:01] Rado : ETH is in a holding pattern until a decision is made [2016-06-22 13:50:41] Rado : hacker seems mor knowable than the developers on DAO code [2016-06-22 13:51:03] boolander : jung is still alive, right? [2016-06-22 13:51:29] Tetsuo : it´s 3.pm and i just opened a fresh bottle of Jameson, drinkin it right out of the bottle, does this mean i have a problem? [2016-06-22 13:52:04] Rado : No tetsuo [2016-06-22 13:52:08] Tetsuo : thought so [2016-06-22 13:52:10] rapidtrades : not if u buy some bitcoins [2016-06-22 13:52:21] Rado : that is the normal behavior [2016-06-22 13:52:25] boolander : you are in the right [2016-06-22 13:52:34] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: i would empty the whole bottle in once if i´d buy any BTC right now [2016-06-22 13:53:09] boolander : bragging [2016-06-22 13:53:13] Tetsuo : 5-10% lower and i probably step in [2016-06-22 13:53:38] Rado : 640 will be retested [2016-06-22 13:54:08] Rado : posibly new lows as well [2016-06-22 13:54:27] Rado : i would love to buy dec contracts [2016-06-22 13:57:25] Tetsuo : http://de.tinypic.com/r/33trtht/9 [2016-06-22 13:57:38] Tetsuo : lol, the captcha for this pic was " i need a bigger boat" [2016-06-22 13:58:53] Rado : Cigarettes too? [2016-06-22 13:59:10] Tetsuo : sure 30 pcs a day :-) [2016-06-22 13:59:12] boolander : wine glass = straight up gangsta [2016-06-22 14:02:42] elmorte : Tetsuo: pass the Jameson [2016-06-22 14:03:27] elmorte : Is that a wine or cognac glass? [2016-06-22 14:03:34] Tetsuo : here you go [2016-06-22 14:03:42] Tetsuo : wine, that was from yesterday night [2016-06-22 14:04:01] elmorte : Cheers. Yeah, I hate washing dishes too [2016-06-22 14:04:17] Tetsuo : need to stay healty, so 10 bottles of wine per week because of the vitamines [2016-06-22 14:04:59] boolander : if i'm in profit too, i just break glasses and buy new ones. makes cents. [2016-06-22 14:05:08] Tetsuo : boolander: +1 [2016-06-22 14:05:11] jesperf : you should probably double that dosage judging by the cigarettes [2016-06-22 14:05:56] elmorte : 30'cigarettes in EU? Isn't that like a entry salary's worth? [2016-06-22 14:06:01] Tetsuo : jesperf: 500ml of booze per day and a bottle of wine just keeps me on the line right now! [2016-06-22 14:07:27] jesperf : what could possibly go wrong! [2016-06-22 14:08:03] Tetsuo : last week i tried to detox and only drank a bottle of valdo a day : http://www.joshlikeswine.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/valdo.jpg [2016-06-22 14:08:09] elmorte : He could run out [2016-06-22 14:08:10] Tetsuo : it´s helathy, and tastes almos as good as champagen [2016-06-22 14:08:22] RoftheN : if you drink wine for vitamins you could better just put vitamin pills in Vodka [2016-06-22 14:08:33] elmorte : Mmm, Prosecco [2016-06-22 14:08:53] jesperf : yeah fizzy tablets in vodka is great [2016-06-22 14:08:55] Tetsuo : RoftheN: i´m normally puttin lime in my wodka [2016-06-22 14:09:13] Tetsuo : makin the finest caipiroska [2016-06-22 14:09:25] Tetsuo : enough vitamines for a day [2016-06-22 14:10:26] boolander : vice club [2016-06-22 14:13:04] Tetsuo : but i stopped with the caipirsoka, cause i´have diabetes, too much sugar [2016-06-22 14:14:42] boolander : in murica they call it corn syrup. or commonly known as erryday diet [2016-06-22 14:27:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 1 @ 70524.0 :punch: :whale: [2016-06-22 14:42:24] markimarki : paprikáskrumpli anyone? [2016-06-22 14:42:27] markimarki : anyone from hungary? [2016-06-22 14:43:44] boolander : rapid gets angry if we talk about soccer [2016-06-22 14:45:44] laisee : rapidtrades: is a brit? [2016-06-22 14:49:41] boolander : (secretly) ronaldo is awesome, but a bit of a ponce. [2016-06-22 14:58:11] rapidtrades : now at $10 gap with finex....get buying [2016-06-22 14:59:20] Rado : longs still pay [2016-06-22 14:59:31] Rado : doesn't make much sense [2016-06-22 15:00:17] rapidtrades : doesn't pay if u can't do math [2016-06-22 15:06:05] sam : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu638L-iVt8 [2016-06-22 15:06:34] rapidtrades : sam STOP [2016-06-22 15:07:15] rapidtrades : still a $6-7 gap....get it while u can [2016-06-22 15:08:34] sam : fuckin' hilarious [2016-06-22 15:09:10] rapidtrades : would've been funnier if they super-imposed vitaly's pic ib hitler [2016-06-22 15:09:15] rapidtrades : on* [2016-06-22 15:09:53] Rado : lol [2016-06-22 15:10:05] Rado : rapidtrades: I think we go down from here [2016-06-22 15:10:46] rapidtrades : eth???# [2016-06-22 15:12:49] rapidtrades : did andreas Abalblablabla invest in the DAO [2016-06-22 15:13:17] rapidtrades : it fits his MO, zero DD [2016-06-22 15:13:39] rapidtrades : he says he bught $40 [2016-06-22 15:13:50] rapidtrades : what a dumb dummy [2016-06-22 15:14:42] tscha : don't know why, but I find this Andreas guy super annoying [2016-06-22 15:15:09] rapidtrades : +1 [2016-06-22 15:17:23] rapidtrades : still a $7 gap [2016-06-22 15:18:00] rapidtrades : coinbase $670, stamp 667 [2016-06-22 15:18:08] rapidtrades : okc 661 [2016-06-22 15:19:04] rapidtrades : china 670, btce 648 [2016-06-22 15:20:18] rapidtrades : $3 premium on okc biweekly, so bull not dead yet [2016-06-22 15:21:03] Rado : BTC [2016-06-22 15:27:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 40 @ 0.02189 [2016-06-22 15:35:40] haxmb : Brexit chances juist raised a bit again [2016-06-22 15:36:14] haxmb : might see some interesting upside for BTC in the next 24 hours [2016-06-22 15:36:29] Skitrx : does brexit really have an impact on BTC? I don't see it [2016-06-22 15:43:53] tscha : Skitrx: It is not important if it actually will have an impact. What matters is if people think that it will have an impact. [2016-06-22 15:44:16] xzsd : halving is so close ~p [2016-06-22 15:44:32] xzsd : :~p [2016-06-22 15:50:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 157779 @ 655.51 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: [2016-06-22 15:51:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1087646 @ 654.60 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: [2016-06-22 15:51:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 654.15 [2016-06-22 15:51:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 50 @ 652.11 [2016-06-22 15:51:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10 @ 652.23 [2016-06-22 15:51:23] REKT : :btc: :soon: :toilet: [2016-06-22 15:51:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10 @ 651.78 [2016-06-22 15:51:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 11200 @ 649.65 [2016-06-22 15:51:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 649.02 [2016-06-22 15:51:38] macios15 : this is insane [2016-06-22 15:52:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 95 @ 0.02207 [2016-06-22 15:53:05] lockhedge : tscha: do you think that people think that UK staying in the EU is now already priced in? or will people be surprised tomorrow that brexit isn't happening? [2016-06-22 15:53:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 500 @ 647.88 [2016-06-22 15:53:13] ayy_lmao : lmao [2016-06-22 15:53:20] chromaticcr1 : DPE kicks in [2016-06-22 15:53:27] ayy_lmao : damn rip us [2016-06-22 15:53:46] tscha : lockhedge: in BTC? I don't know, crypto markets are irrational.. but other markets are priced in with corresponding percentages I believe [2016-06-22 15:53:46] Skitrx : DPE? [2016-06-22 15:55:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7979 @ 645.09 [2016-06-22 15:56:42] Skitrx : this index chart is way off [2016-06-22 15:57:05] haxmb : where can i see current estimated DPE [2016-06-22 15:57:13] arbitrage001 : lol [2016-06-22 15:57:15] arbitrage001 : 1.1M ? [2016-06-22 15:57:22] chromaticcr1 : 1600BTC [2016-06-22 15:57:31] ayy_lmao : 5% [2016-06-22 15:57:31] ayy_lmao : rekt [2016-06-22 15:57:36] arbitrage001 : get out harpoon [2016-06-22 15:57:42] arbitrage001 : kill the whale [2016-06-22 15:57:46] ayy_lmao : dpe clean up sqaud lets go [2016-06-22 15:58:18] arbitrage001 : hope there is bounce back [2016-06-22 15:58:31] arbitrage001 : if not, it will get higher than 50% dpe [2016-06-22 15:59:39] elmorte : Wow, 22k USD down the drain [2016-06-22 15:59:55] lockhedge : tscha: not sure if traditional markets are much more rational or just more liquid and less volatile http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/15/business/dealbook/germany-bonds-negative-ecb.html?_r=0 [2016-06-22 16:00:50] lockhedge : "Fear is probably paramount. A sluggish global economy and uncertainty surrounding the coming vote in Britain over whether to leave the European Union have some investors rushing for safe havens." [2016-06-22 16:01:17] rapidtrades : please stop with that brexit shit again [2016-06-22 16:02:33] rapidtrades : ppl should be unwilling to short until that DPE clears right [2016-06-22 16:02:51] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: right [2016-06-22 16:03:00] rapidtrades : cool [2016-06-22 16:03:04] mbaril : where can we see dpe ? [2016-06-22 16:03:07] arbitrage001 : no [2016-06-22 16:03:12] arbitrage001 : actually unwilling to long [2016-06-22 16:03:13] ayy_lmao : its right under the price on the left [2016-06-22 16:03:21] ayy_lmao : next to the 'i' icon [2016-06-22 16:03:31] ayy_lmao : 7% [2016-06-22 16:03:35] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: why? only shorts will get dpe [2016-06-22 16:03:35] arbitrage001 : nm [2016-06-22 16:03:45] mbaril : ayy_lmao: thanks you :_ [2016-06-22 16:03:47] arbitrage001 : not thinking clearly [2016-06-22 16:03:50] rapidtrades : longs are only in profit if we clear the LIQ [2016-06-22 16:04:12] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: Anyone within profit since the last rebalance is subject to DPE, of course if you're long and you're in profit that is quite something [2016-06-22 16:04:33] ayy_lmao : lol [2016-06-22 16:04:45] arbitrage001 : no body going to short before the dpe clear [2016-06-22 16:04:53] rapidtrades : yeah i know but with rebalance at 662, most longs are underwater [2016-06-22 16:04:55] arbitrage001 : other than bot [2016-06-22 16:05:11] rapidtrades : yeah f bots are nuts [2016-06-22 16:05:42] mbaril : BitMEX_Wally: my ethusb rebalance never happen [2016-06-22 16:05:45] mbaril : could you fix that [2016-06-22 16:06:02] rapidtrades : guys if u want to short DPE free, september [2016-06-22 16:06:05] rapidtrades : ur welcome [2016-06-22 16:06:11] BitMEX_Wally : ETHXBT rebalances on Friday [2016-06-22 16:06:22] arbitrage001 : dpe is contrace segregated? [2016-06-22 16:06:23] rapidtrades : september hasn't moved since we dumped $20 [2016-06-22 16:06:27] BitMEX_Wally : arbitrage001: Yes [2016-06-22 16:06:28] mbaril : BitMEX_Wally: ok thanks you [2016-06-22 16:06:31] arbitrage001 : contract [2016-06-22 16:06:33] Tedy : And now up xD [2016-06-22 16:06:37] ayy_lmao : time to clear these liqs boys [2016-06-22 16:06:37] Tedy : just like last time [2016-06-22 16:06:45] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: yes but the insurance fund is pooled [2016-06-22 16:07:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 4 @ 68382.0 :punch: :whale: [2016-06-22 16:08:18] ayy_lmao : clear it clear it clear it [2016-06-22 16:08:34] arbitrage001 : will take a whale [2016-06-22 16:08:39] arbitrage001 : a while [2016-06-22 16:08:47] rapidtrades : FOMO [2016-06-22 16:09:07] mbaril : could be nice to kill this 1mil [2016-06-22 16:09:28] ayy_lmao : that wall is 20% of all bitmex volume right now lmao [2016-06-22 16:09:41] arbitrage001 : dangerous, isnt it? [2016-06-22 16:09:48] rapidtrades : its not gonna get cleared with these price [2016-06-22 16:09:51] arbitrage001 : 1 person can ruin whole community [2016-06-22 16:09:52] mbaril : lets eat it :) [2016-06-22 16:09:59] ayy_lmao : need to go higher b4 ppl get baited [2016-06-22 16:10:04] BitMEX_Wally : ayy_lmao: 16% of 24 hour volume [2016-06-22 16:10:09] rapidtrades : finex needs to go >655 min prolly 660 [2016-06-22 16:10:27] arbitrage001 : maybe time to re-examine max leverage [2016-06-22 16:10:37] rapidtrades : too f*cking late [2016-06-22 16:10:43] ayy_lmao : rekt [2016-06-22 16:11:02] rapidtrades : that's sleger type money [2016-06-22 16:11:15] arbitrage001 : bot bitstamp and finex trade at 651+ [2016-06-22 16:11:17] rapidtrades : prolly sleger himself [2016-06-22 16:11:23] chromaticcr1 : 2kBTC would have shot is down 2% on finex [2016-06-22 16:11:28] chromaticcr1 : us* [2016-06-22 16:11:35] Tedy : wtf [2016-06-22 16:11:40] arbitrage001 : it will clear if there is big shot trading here [2016-06-22 16:12:33] mbaril : 380k :) [2016-06-22 16:12:37] chromaticcr1 : lol [2016-06-22 16:13:10] chromaticcr1 : I dont think that this is a bargain [2016-06-22 16:13:22] arbitrage001 : it is [2016-06-22 16:13:27] rapidtrades : it's not...we had $10 earlier [2016-06-22 16:13:28] arbitrage001 : 1%+ discount [2016-06-22 16:13:36] rapidtrades : not sure why ur all excited now [2016-06-22 16:13:46] arbitrage001 : any arbitrage guy with deep wallet will clear it [2016-06-22 16:14:01] rapidtrades : noone has 800k just layiing around [2016-06-22 16:14:42] chromaticcr1 : 2kBTC takes quite a bit of slippage to hedge [2016-06-22 16:15:10] arbitrage001 : depend on exchange [2016-06-22 16:15:32] arbitrage001 : okcoin china seems to have unlimited liquidity [2016-06-22 16:15:43] chromaticcr1 : lol moving orders [2016-06-22 16:15:53] ayy_lmao : i love liq [2016-06-22 16:16:40] macios15 : china 3600 [2016-06-22 16:17:02] ayy_lmao : wut [2016-06-22 16:17:05] ayy_lmao : where [2016-06-22 16:17:14] macios15 : just trolling [2016-06-22 16:17:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 177 @ 643.10 [2016-06-22 16:17:19] chromaticcr1 : -_-