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[2016-06-13 22:36:08] justinlooking : ^^
[2016-06-13 22:36:22] podizzle3k : rapids reverse indictor is working well
[2016-06-13 22:36:25] podizzle3k : yesterday and today
[2016-06-13 22:36:37] podizzle3k : almost instantly
[2016-06-13 22:36:38] wurstgelee : didnt pay attention to it recently
[2016-06-13 22:36:41] wurstgelee : just long
[2016-06-13 22:37:12] wurstgelee : out of everything now..so good night
[2016-06-13 22:37:29] podizzle3k : ok catch you when the alarm goes off
[2016-06-13 22:37:34] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-06-13 22:37:35] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-06-13 22:37:51] ted : whats this revers indicator?
[2016-06-13 22:38:24] podizzle3k : usually when rapidtrades says something about the premium being too high or longs getting scared the price pumps
[2016-06-13 22:39:13] ted : i think he was referring to the shorts that time
[2016-06-13 22:55:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 706.06
[2016-06-13 22:55:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2391 @ 705.90
[2016-06-13 23:00:59] podizzle3k : hey wally or sam did you guys ever notice the buy stop / sell stop doesnt switch properly when you switch from net long to net short or vice versa
[2016-06-13 23:01:05] podizzle3k : the wrong one remains grayed out
[2016-06-13 23:01:21] podizzle3k : i almost doubled down instead of stop loss
[2016-06-13 23:02:03] podizzle3k : wtf its wrong again
[2016-06-13 23:02:31] podizzle3k : nm i figured it out
[2016-06-13 23:02:39] podizzle3k : this is an issue
[2016-06-13 23:03:22] podizzle3k : it wont let me set a buy stop below the current eth bid even though the mark price is nowhere near that high
[2016-06-13 23:03:25] podizzle3k : should probably fix that
[2016-06-13 23:04:17] podizzle3k : serious bug
[2016-06-13 23:04:49] justinlooking : a buy stop limit beneath best bid is just a limit order? unless i misundestand (prolly)
[2016-06-13 23:05:02] podizzle3k : yes because its triggered by mark price not by best bid
[2016-06-13 23:07:05] rentchev : podizzle3k: do you have Mark Price Trigger checked?
[2016-06-13 23:07:22] podizzle3k : rentchev: thank you my friend i never even noticed
[2016-06-13 23:07:40] rentchev : np
[2016-06-13 23:08:19] podizzle3k : maybe its new or something my brain totally blocked it out
[2016-06-13 23:08:29] rentchev : it is new
[2016-06-13 23:08:29] podizzle3k : good thing sleger isnt here to mock me
[2016-06-13 23:08:58] rentchev : lol
[2016-06-13 23:09:42] podizzle3k : ok now i can go for a run in peace
[2016-06-13 23:10:03] rentchev : have fun
[2016-06-13 23:38:48] vizlma22 : Is close on trigger supposed to be checked by default each time?
[2016-06-13 23:42:57] sizzurp : think we'll hit 730 today?
[2016-06-13 23:45:41] ted : i think 790 in a few days
[2016-06-13 23:46:39] ted : public just reading about it in the news.. they going to push it up
[2016-06-14 00:07:19] rapidtrades : what public? zerohedge? those f*ckers don't have two pennies to rub together
[2016-06-14 00:10:12] ted : haha, they could sell their gold and buy some
[2016-06-14 00:10:22] podizzle3k : yeah i dont see the public doing a damn thing here
[2016-06-14 00:10:31] podizzle3k : they already seen what happened in 2013
[2016-06-14 00:10:37] podizzle3k : why would they buy in now
[2016-06-14 00:11:03] podizzle3k : gonna take ATH to get the public buying in
[2016-06-14 00:11:23] ted : the only possibility is that there were some on the fence for the past 2 years and now their getting some fomo
[2016-06-14 00:11:41] podizzle3k : yeah those 11 people are probably gonna buy in
[2016-06-14 00:12:49] podizzle3k : dont worry our chinese comrades have it under control
[2016-06-14 00:13:07] podizzle3k : mix a little fake volume with some fake fiat boom u got the magic formula
[2016-06-14 00:14:12] prospecta : wheres this new instarekt button
[2016-06-14 00:14:21] prospecta : i want immediate liquidations sounds fun
[2016-06-14 00:15:41] ted : they may take it up to the 61fib before the correction, at 790
[2016-06-14 00:16:18] ted : miners holding all their coins till at least 5000 after the havling
[2016-06-14 00:16:28] ted : 5000cny that is
[2016-06-14 00:19:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 280 @ 703.85
[2016-06-14 00:21:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 279 @ 703.36
[2016-06-14 00:24:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 708 @ 701.98
[2016-06-14 00:30:47] rapidtrades : there is no rest for the wicked fellas
[2016-06-14 00:31:22] rapidtrades : i was trying to watch some ZzzZzz
[2016-06-14 00:31:40] rapidtrades : catch
[2016-06-14 00:31:44] rapidtrades : im losing it
[2016-06-14 00:40:27] j8 : gotta take the time when you need it. i had a marathon session this weekend
[2016-06-14 00:53:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1100 @ 699.77
[2016-06-14 01:05:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 400 @ 697.81
[2016-06-14 01:05:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10000 @ 697.39
[2016-06-14 01:09:16] messiaen8844 : the big ETH short squeeze coming soon?
[2016-06-14 01:21:55] 3aum : where can i find the funding rate for the next period?
[2016-06-14 01:22:20] micmix : Cream-White-Ox down 170 btc since last week
[2016-06-14 01:22:38] BitMEX_Wally : 3aum: https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBTUSDPI
[2016-06-14 01:22:47] BitMEX_Wally : Best guess is that it will be 0.80%
[2016-06-14 01:23:51] 3aum : thanks
[2016-06-14 01:28:03] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: why did you decide to list XBJ as 24H instead of weekly for example?
[2016-06-14 01:30:24] BitMEX_Wally : The product is part of a partnership with a spot exchange that will be announced soon
[2016-06-14 01:31:45] BitMEX_Arthur : micmix: We will make more noise about it in the coming days
[2016-06-14 01:31:55] BitMEX_Arthur : The final integrations are happening now
[2016-06-14 01:31:58] j8 : if it's what i think it is, that's pretty awesome
[2016-06-14 01:32:18] micmix : ok, can't wait :smile:
[2016-06-14 01:32:18] BitMEX_Arthur : We are also thinking about displaying the product in USD terms
[2016-06-14 01:32:34] BitMEX_Arthur : so you could think of XBJ24H as XBT24H just that the spot exchange is quoine
[2016-06-14 01:32:41] BitMEX_Arthur : best thing is that there are no trading fees in japan
[2016-06-14 01:32:59] BitMEX_Arthur : so we hope to create a monster product akin to the BTCCNY leveraged products in china
[2016-06-14 01:33:18] BitMEX_Arthur : So I encourage all of you mm to get set up on quoine
[2016-06-14 01:33:31] BitMEX_Arthur : The guys are nice there and helpful, let me know if you need any introductions
[2016-06-14 01:33:33] messiaen8844 : please display USD too
[2016-06-14 01:33:34] micmix : yep, I'm already on Quoine
[2016-06-14 01:34:04] micmix : but MMs are super competitive there
[2016-06-14 01:34:05] j8 : i have an account but have just looked around
[2016-06-14 01:35:25] micmix : just testing waters for now
[2016-06-14 01:37:20] j8 : yep, i know what it is :) i won't steal your annoucement though
[2016-06-14 01:39:42] BitMEX_Arthur : Well you don't necessarily have to mm there, but as long as you are connected you can hedge your futures exposure for free
[2016-06-14 01:39:46] BitMEX_Arthur : so you can make 2.5bps on bmex
[2016-06-14 01:39:50] BitMEX_Arthur : and trade for free on quoine
[2016-06-14 01:40:03] BitMEX_Arthur : so should be quite profitable for you guys with good models
[2016-06-14 01:40:42] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Arthur: how to make 2.5bps?
[2016-06-14 01:41:37] BitMEX_Arthur : be a maker on bmex, take your delta from quoine
[2016-06-14 01:41:42] BitMEX_Arthur : no charge other than paying the spread
[2016-06-14 01:41:45] BitMEX_Arthur : on the spot hedge
[2016-06-14 01:41:51] BitMEX_Arthur : only one exchange, very easy
[2016-06-14 01:42:21] micmix : BitMEX_Arthur: yep, sounds good
[2016-06-14 01:42:48] BitMEX_Arthur : :thumbsup:
[2016-06-14 01:44:42] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Arthur: hedging only work if there is a way to transfer fund/contract between the two platforms with minimal cost
[2016-06-14 01:46:04] BitMEX_Wally : The network fee for a Bitcoin withdrawal is 0.0002 XBT
[2016-06-14 01:46:13] BitMEX_Wally : (minimum)
[2016-06-14 01:47:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 2789 @ 0.02559
[2016-06-14 01:47:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 @ 696.29
[2016-06-14 01:48:49] messiaen8844 : BTC negative premium, ETH positive premium
[2016-06-14 01:48:51] messiaen8844 : it's happening
[2016-06-14 01:50:38] guembesn : Correction ?
[2016-06-14 01:52:13] rentchev : yep
[2016-06-14 01:54:01] BitMEX_Arthur : arbitrage001: Well don't use the max leverage
[2016-06-14 01:54:08] BitMEX_Arthur : You get your bitcoin realised pnl daily
[2016-06-14 01:54:13] BitMEX_Arthur : i don't see that as a big issue
[2016-06-14 01:58:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10000 @ 693.67
[2016-06-14 01:58:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5705 @ 693.40
[2016-06-14 01:59:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 78 @ 692.71
[2016-06-14 02:00:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5195 @ 691.99
[2016-06-14 02:00:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 700 @ 691.29
[2016-06-14 02:00:56] REKT : Blood on the streets!
[2016-06-14 02:01:25] messiaen8844 : now, if people run to ETH now.... be prepared for massive up
[2016-06-14 02:01:29] messiaen8844 : that's my scenario
[2016-06-14 02:01:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 1011 @ 0.02569
[2016-06-14 02:01:42] messiaen8844 : squeeze coming
[2016-06-14 02:13:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 15 @ 689.29
[2016-06-14 02:14:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 1004 @ 0.02583
[2016-06-14 02:20:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 20 @ 687.73
[2016-06-14 02:20:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 40 @ 708.49
[2016-06-14 02:20:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 252 @ 687.41
[2016-06-14 02:21:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 685.06
[2016-06-14 02:21:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 @ 684.12
[2016-06-14 02:21:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 90500 @ 684.33 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-06-14 02:35:46] boxagox : What is the buy/sell limit in bitmex?
[2016-06-14 02:37:19] aethlios : boxagox: 1 contract is 1usd, no uper limit, leverage 50x
[2016-06-14 02:37:35] boxagox : what about ethxbt ?
[2016-06-14 02:37:58] aethlios : boxagox: 1 contract is 1 eth
[2016-06-14 02:38:23] boxagox : I tried adding more buys to my position ... but the buy button is not responding
[2016-06-14 02:39:01] aethlios : boxagox: try to refresh page, if not fixed is there a message?
[2016-06-14 02:39:11] boxagox : no message at all
[2016-06-14 02:39:45] boxagox : the sell button is responding, but not the buy button
[2016-06-14 02:39:51] aethlios : boxagox: did you fill the quantity and limit price box?
[2016-06-14 02:40:36] boxagox : I am pretty sure I have my buys get filled in the price range...but not all of them get filled
[2016-06-14 02:40:52] boxagox : then I tried adding more manually ... but the buy button is not responding
[2016-06-14 02:41:16] boxagox : so... I have been wondering, if there is a limit to the amount of contracts you can buy?
[2016-06-14 02:41:52] aethlios : boxagox: do you want to change price to get filled in full? cancel previous order and place a new one for the unfilled quantity
[2016-06-14 02:43:36] boxagox : I tried going market to buy some... order get rejected
[2016-06-14 02:44:21] aethlios : boxagox: do you have open orders?
[2016-06-14 02:44:31] boxagox : yes
[2016-06-14 02:45:06] messiaen8844 : boxagox, set lower margin
[2016-06-14 02:45:06] aethlios : cancel them and place a new limit order to the offer
[2016-06-14 02:45:24] messiaen8844 : we have a limit buy that's probably above your liquidation point when buying 33x
[2016-06-14 02:45:58] boxagox : ahh I see
[2016-06-14 02:46:05] messiaen8844 : when you open it'll show negative PNL, because order book is running higher than mark price
[2016-06-14 02:46:07] boxagox : what's the limit then?
[2016-06-14 02:46:08] messiaen8844 : it happens some time
[2016-06-14 02:46:34] messiaen8844 : try buying 1 contract at 25x, to see if it works
[2016-06-14 02:46:52] messiaen8844 : this has been an issue lately, swaps are getting large premiums
[2016-06-14 02:47:07] boxagox : ok... thanks, will try it out... this seems to be working
[2016-06-14 02:48:36] messiaen8844 : this has been confusing people in the past few days
[2016-06-14 02:53:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 10 @ 74967.00000
[2016-06-14 02:55:13] mbaril : how can a long be rekt if we are going up ??
[2016-06-14 02:55:27] dharmabum : If I have 10BTC I wish to maintain USD value of, it seems I just sell 5BTC of XBT Perpetual Swap @1x and that's it, optionally using a Stop Limit to trigger at the "maintain" price if it's lower than XBT @market. Correct?
[2016-06-14 02:55:28] messiaen8844 : XBJ24H why does MM just removes all orders eventually?
[2016-06-14 02:55:35] billz : funding rates will rekt you, they've been hurting me for sure
[2016-06-14 02:55:50] mbaril : yeah funding rates are killing it
[2016-06-14 02:56:07] messiaen8844 : thanks mm
[2016-06-14 02:56:41] rentchev : funding rate gets paid by longs
[2016-06-14 02:56:47] rentchev : he is talking about shorting 5 BTC
[2016-06-14 02:56:50] rentchev : he will get paid
[2016-06-14 02:59:11] 1QaZxSw2 : hey i see dpe is back to 0
[2016-06-14 02:59:15] dharmabum : rentchev: indeed. Maybe billz was replying to somebody else.
[2016-06-14 02:59:17] 1QaZxSw2 : is that due to drop
[2016-06-14 02:59:42] rentchev : not sure 1QaZxSw2
[2016-06-14 02:59:47] rentchev : where do you see the DPE?
[2016-06-14 03:00:11] 1QaZxSw2 : right below the last traded price on orderbook
[2016-06-14 03:00:21] 1QaZxSw2 : i 0.00%
[2016-06-14 03:02:19] rentchev : I don't see it 1QaZxSw2
[2016-06-14 03:03:04] mbaril : time to rekt some short ;)
[2016-06-14 03:03:20] rentchev : nah
[2016-06-14 03:03:32] rentchev : not going to shoot up yet
[2016-06-14 03:03:33] billz : rentchev: right next to the mark price
[2016-06-14 03:04:01] billz : hoping for another shootup into 700s so i close this long before funding kicks in
[2016-06-14 03:05:49] rentchev : Maybe I don't see the DPE because I am using Cross?
[2016-06-14 03:06:07] mbaril : Are we gonna break 700 US :)
[2016-06-14 03:06:24] rentchev : I think not, but what do I know
[2016-06-14 03:06:27] rentchev : :-)
[2016-06-14 03:09:16] 1QaZxSw2 : why not just trade spot instead of cross
[2016-06-14 03:09:51] 1QaZxSw2 : 5x should be generally safe
[2016-06-14 03:11:16] dharmabum : billz: Do you only get hit by funding at a specific moment, but if you're out before, cost=zero?
[2016-06-14 03:11:43] 1QaZxSw2 : good question. anyone from bitmex can answer that?
[2016-06-14 03:12:07] billz : dharmabum: Yeah i believe that's what wally said, i actually just closed my long and looking at the net pnl i didn't pay it
[2016-06-14 03:13:03] dharmabum : billz: Hmm that's cool. I must dig into this more.
[2016-06-14 03:13:19] 1QaZxSw2 : thank god for the bear move, the dpe was getting ridiculous
[2016-06-14 03:13:40] rentchev : I am currently short
[2016-06-14 03:14:00] rentchev : I will get 1.125% of what?
[2016-06-14 03:14:42] rentchev : 5000 contracts = 7.189 XBT
[2016-06-14 03:14:52] billz : rentchev: so you will get 0.07189
[2016-06-14 03:14:59] billz : when funding kicks in
[2016-06-14 03:15:15] rentchev : cool
[2016-06-14 03:15:29] rentchev : if there is no crazy upwards movement
[2016-06-14 03:15:46] 1QaZxSw2 : wait, shouldnt the funding invert when the markets are going down?
[2016-06-14 03:15:50] billz : just went short myself lol funding is like free money
[2016-06-14 03:15:57] 1QaZxSw2 : longs should be getting it now
[2016-06-14 03:16:03] rentchev : 1QaZxSw2: it will eventually
[2016-06-14 03:16:20] rentchev : still a lot of people are long
[2016-06-14 03:16:29] rentchev : so someone has to pay for lending
[2016-06-14 03:16:45] rentchev : Bitfinex rate is high as there are no BTC available to lend
[2016-06-14 03:16:48] 1QaZxSw2 : does it say anywhere direction of funding
[2016-06-14 03:16:48] rentchev : everyone is long
[2016-06-14 03:16:50] rentchev : lol
[2016-06-14 03:16:56] rentchev : yes
[2016-06-14 03:17:06] rentchev : on the left under Contract details
[2016-06-14 03:17:16] rentchev : when it's positive longs pay, when negative shorts pay
[2016-06-14 03:17:24] 1QaZxSw2 : ah ok
[2016-06-14 03:17:57] 1QaZxSw2 : so i should exit 1m before funding kicks in and re-enter right after to avoid it?
[2016-06-14 03:18:10] rentchev : not sure about this
[2016-06-14 03:18:33] 1QaZxSw2 : well, i'll be paying nitmex commission instead of funding
[2016-06-14 03:18:52] rentchev : looking at my history I see I've paid funding as well as got paid for different trades
[2016-06-14 03:19:11] rentchev : 1QaZxSw2: not if you put a limit order
[2016-06-14 03:19:18] rentchev : then you will get paid the commision
[2016-06-14 03:19:37] rentchev : I get paid commissions for most of my orders
[2016-06-14 03:19:40] 1QaZxSw2 : rentchev, thats a great idea. i'll exit right before funding and re0enter
[2016-06-14 03:20:02] 1QaZxSw2 : im such a genius that i overwhelm myself
[2016-06-14 03:20:15] 1QaZxSw2 : --Homer Simpson
[2016-06-14 03:22:20] 1QaZxSw2 : amazing, so much time to buy last 2 years and everyone wakes up now
[2016-06-14 03:22:26] 1QaZxSw2 : buy buy buy
[2016-06-14 03:22:47] mbaril : we reach the crossover on ok
[2016-06-14 03:22:51] mbaril : going up right now
[2016-06-14 03:23:58] 1QaZxSw2 : shorting is a dangerous game until halvening. at least stops need to be in place
[2016-06-14 03:24:12] 1QaZxSw2 : never know when the rabid longs will stampede
[2016-06-14 03:24:50] billz : I think we got a day atleast of consolidation
[2016-06-14 03:25:05] mbaril : shorting rihgt now is not a good idea. The trend is on loing
[2016-06-14 03:25:11] mbaril : check ok
[2016-06-14 03:33:40] mbaril : 4$ lower than bitfin
[2016-06-14 03:33:42] rentchev : mbaril: what time frame
[2016-06-14 03:33:49] rentchev : it's all about timeframe
[2016-06-14 03:33:59] mbaril : 23:15
[2016-06-14 03:34:10] rentchev : no silly
[2016-06-14 03:34:20] rentchev : daily chart, 4h chart, 1 h etc
[2016-06-14 03:34:29] rentchev : daily is bulish, but not 1h or 2h
[2016-06-14 03:34:53] rentchev : https://tradeblock.com/markets/bfnx/xbt-usd/1h/
[2016-06-14 03:34:53] mbaril : im on 5 min
[2016-06-14 03:35:08] mbaril : I day trade
[2016-06-14 03:35:13] rentchev : https://tradeblock.com/markets/bfnx/xbt-usd/5m/
[2016-06-14 03:35:23] billz : okcoin seems to holding 4650 cny but i think we'll see 4580 again before this bull run starts, gotta shakeout a bit and get short fuel to 800
[2016-06-14 03:35:25] rentchev : this looks bullish to you?
[2016-06-14 03:36:16] mbaril : never said its bullish
[2016-06-14 03:36:18] billz : longs have been getting rekted all morning
[2016-06-14 03:36:32] mbaril : just said that we will see a last up to max 700
[2016-06-14 03:36:36] mbaril : before consolidation
[2016-06-14 03:37:06] mbaril : 699-700 will ve the time to short P
[2016-06-14 03:37:08] mbaril : :p
[2016-06-14 03:37:31] rentchev : I am short since 704
[2016-06-14 03:37:38] rentchev : so I guess I did better than that
[2016-06-14 03:37:45] mbaril : good call ;)
[2016-06-14 03:38:08] rentchev : it was scary to enter there :-)
[2016-06-14 03:38:16] rentchev : but once you are in profit it's easy
[2016-06-14 03:38:21] rentchev : stop at 703
[2016-06-14 03:38:35] mbaril : hey hey
[2016-06-14 03:38:48] mbaril : when you get away from the liquidation you are good
[2016-06-14 03:39:13] rentchev : I have a small position
[2016-06-14 03:39:21] rentchev : liq proce 953
[2016-06-14 03:39:22] elmorte : Morning :)
[2016-06-14 03:39:24] rentchev : price
[2016-06-14 03:39:31] rentchev : gm elmorte
[2016-06-14 03:39:38] rentchev : 8:39 PM here lol
[2016-06-14 03:39:49] elmorte : rentchev: How ya been in the last 9hrs? :)
[2016-06-14 03:40:01] rentchev : it's been great
[2016-06-14 03:40:11] rentchev : some nice dumps
[2016-06-14 03:40:40] elmorte : Yeah, my short filled at 685 an hour ago :)
[2016-06-14 03:40:57] elmorte : I mean covered!
[2016-06-14 03:42:29] elmorte : I guess the funding trick worked, everyone's trying to get the shorts in before the funding
[2016-06-14 03:43:07] arbitrage001 : elmorte: still doing it irraltional way
[2016-06-14 03:43:32] arbitrage001 : they want to avoid paying 1.125% funding by selling 2% below spot
[2016-06-14 03:43:40] arbitrage001 : how smart is that?
[2016-06-14 03:43:46] rentchev : lol
[2016-06-14 03:44:21] elmorte : I calculated and it's about $8
[2016-06-14 03:44:25] arbitrage001 : or short trying to get 1.125 funding by selling 2% below short
[2016-06-14 03:44:41] billz : Yeah, i agree this system is kinda wack
[2016-06-14 03:45:05] arbitrage001 : billz: system is not wack, quality of traders here is
[2016-06-14 03:45:27] elmorte : what arb said^
[2016-06-14 03:45:42] rentchev : it's fine guys
[2016-06-14 03:45:52] arbitrage001 : rentchev: yes
[2016-06-14 03:45:52] rentchev : in the big picture it's about correct trading
[2016-06-14 03:46:04] arbitrage001 : better having a dumb counter party
[2016-06-14 03:46:06] rentchev : not about fees or funding rates
[2016-06-14 03:46:13] rentchev : no shit
[2016-06-14 03:46:22] elmorte : rentchev: this ain't spot market :p
[2016-06-14 03:46:36] elmorte : all about the fees & funding atm
[2016-06-14 03:47:19] elmorte : If the price falls another 2-3 $, I might close my current short and make a bit more than funding
[2016-06-14 03:47:26] arbitrage001 : price will jump back up after funding
[2016-06-14 03:47:36] arbitrage001 : wiping out all benefit gain by funding
[2016-06-14 03:47:46] arbitrage001 : my view, of course
[2016-06-14 03:47:54] elmorte : Until the next funding :)
[2016-06-14 03:48:00] j8 : it should theoretically. we'll see if traders have figured that out yet
[2016-06-14 03:48:02] limsta08 : settlment time changed?
[2016-06-14 03:48:20] elmorte : limsta08: funding is at 8hr intervals
[2016-06-14 03:48:25] j8 : also if the view is that rates are going down, it won't buy up all the way
[2016-06-14 03:48:30] elmorte : UTC noon being one of them
[2016-06-14 03:49:02] elmorte : j8: do we know the next rate?
[2016-06-14 03:49:29] arbitrage001 : was close to 0.8 2 hours ago
[2016-06-14 03:50:13] j8 : the change in the rate is capped at 0.35% and it will hit that cap downward
[2016-06-14 03:50:50] j8 : er 0.325% i mean
[2016-06-14 03:50:57] elmorte : Yup...only around 0.57% for the premium
[2016-06-14 03:51:03] elmorte : atm
[2016-06-14 03:51:13] rapidtrades : so it will around 0.8%?
[2016-06-14 03:51:22] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: should be
[2016-06-14 03:51:27] elmorte : 0.49% base....
[2016-06-14 03:51:29] rapidtrades : sweet
[2016-06-14 03:51:29] j8 : yeah or more likely exactly 0.8%
[2016-06-14 03:52:07] elmorte : Do we add up the base and premium?
[2016-06-14 03:52:22] elmorte : coz it adss up to more than 1
[2016-06-14 03:52:53] j8 : the premium index is relative to the mark price https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBTUSDPI
[2016-06-14 03:52:56] rapidtrades : even better
[2016-06-14 03:53:08] billz : what is going on with ETH here? trading way above market price
[2016-06-14 03:53:12] dharmabum : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory
[2016-06-14 03:54:11] elmorte : dharmabum: that's history...
[2016-06-14 03:54:39] arbitrage001 : elmorte: and upcoming one
[2016-06-14 03:55:04] elmorte : arbitrage001: where?
[2016-06-14 03:55:27] arbitrage001 : nm, may be read it wrong
[2016-06-14 03:55:30] dharmabum : elmorte: sure, but it shows the funding interval for the various symbols/pairs
[2016-06-14 03:55:38] rapidtrades : so we'll again see 1.1%
[2016-06-14 03:55:45] BitMEX_Wally : Wrong
[2016-06-14 03:55:49] elmorte : No...j8 did it right
[2016-06-14 03:55:56] BitMEX_Wally : We'll see 0.81%
[2016-06-14 03:56:02] BitMEX_Wally : As the next funding rate
[2016-06-14 03:56:05] elmorte : Cheers @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-06-14 03:56:24] BitMEX_Wally : I am going to add an 'Indicative Funding Rate' that shows up after 4 hours
[2016-06-14 03:56:35] elmorte : Nice one
[2016-06-14 03:56:40] rapidtrades : 0.7787%
[2016-06-14 03:56:47] rapidtrades : whats this then feg
[2016-06-14 03:56:50] elmorte : No, that's the previous one
[2016-06-14 03:56:50] aethlios : BitMEX_Wally: that's good
[2016-06-14 03:57:04] elmorte : rapidtrades: that was 16-8hrs ago
[2016-06-14 03:57:10] elmorte : I remember the digits
[2016-06-14 03:57:12] BitMEX_Wally : Funding: 1.1250% in 3 minutes
[2016-06-14 03:57:27] BitMEX_Wally : Then in 8 hours will be 0.81%
[2016-06-14 03:57:50] arbitrage001 : anyone want to avoid funding fee by selling 5% below, let me know
[2016-06-14 03:58:46] billz : 687 is pretty much exactly 1.1% below
[2016-06-14 03:58:53] arbitrage001 : billz: yes
[2016-06-14 03:59:03] arbitrage001 : and price will jump back up right after
[2016-06-14 03:59:48] arbitrage001 : here we go
[2016-06-14 04:00:34] mbaril : ahahahahha
[2016-06-14 04:00:50] elmorte : :)
[2016-06-14 04:00:51] arbitrage001 : rediculus, isnt it?
[2016-06-14 04:00:58] BitMEX_Wally : Free money
[2016-06-14 04:00:58] Blargwaffle : Red... iculus?
[2016-06-14 04:01:16] BitMEX_Wally : Place some bids, get filled, pay funding, then sell
[2016-06-14 04:01:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 1 @ 0.02619 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-14 04:02:05] arbitrage001 : we are back to premium mode
[2016-06-14 04:02:26] BitMEX_Wally : The premium is currently less than 0.80% though
[2016-06-14 04:02:59] sizzurp : #getbtcto750
[2016-06-14 04:03:10] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: can u guys make a page that will display the coming funding rate? like u have for the premium
[2016-06-14 04:03:17] rapidtrades : so we don't have to do thi evry 8hrs
[2016-06-14 04:03:19] 1QaZxSw2 : oh crap i forgot to sell and rebuy
[2016-06-14 04:03:27] j8 : he just said he was going to add that
[2016-06-14 04:03:34] rapidtrades : who
[2016-06-14 04:03:37] j8 : wally
[2016-06-14 04:03:39] rapidtrades : k
[2016-06-14 04:04:15] rapidtrades : guess 0.8% aint bad :(
[2016-06-14 04:04:23] rapidtrades : QQ
[2016-06-14 04:04:34] rapidtrades : ^^^ rich man tears
[2016-06-14 04:04:50] j8 : just sell more to get the same return
[2016-06-14 04:05:00] micmix : well I guess I'll just stop MMing for now, get free funding money instead
[2016-06-14 04:05:08] rapidtrades : i don't play that game fella @j8
[2016-06-14 04:05:46] rapidtrades : micmix: u can only do asks :)
[2016-06-14 04:05:48] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: "11:56 - BitMEX_Wally: I am going to add an 'Indicative Funding Rate' that shows up after 4 hours"
[2016-06-14 04:06:02] rapidtrades : k
[2016-06-14 04:06:22] messiaen8844 : that is unfair JBY market maker
[2016-06-14 04:07:17] messiaen8844 : removing all liquidity so I need to buy way way way above my liq price
[2016-06-14 04:07:26] 3aum : is there an easier way to use your funding to short, other than having to remove the margin, then put in a sell order
[2016-06-14 04:08:09] rapidtrades : cross?
[2016-06-14 04:08:11] messiaen8844 : why all this fuckery?
[2016-06-14 04:08:38] BitMEX_Arthur : messiaen8844: We are working with our main mm and quoine, still some kinks to be worked out, but over the next few days the spreads will get much tighter
[2016-06-14 04:08:39] BitMEX_Arthur : and size larger
[2016-06-14 04:09:11] 1QaZxSw2 : tighter and larger, eh? sounds like my favorite porno
[2016-06-14 04:09:34] messiaen8844 : I get spread, I don't get all orders disapearing, and stop market buying 10% above mark price
[2016-06-14 04:09:39] BitMEX_Wally : I like my deep orders getting filled
[2016-06-14 04:10:21] messiaen8844 : but yeah, looking forward to that liquidity
[2016-06-14 04:11:04] messiaen8844 : it will be great to have 100x and 50x... user count seems to be increasing aswell
[2016-06-14 04:12:15] Blargwaffle : A swell... amount?
[2016-06-14 04:16:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 5 @ 0.02640
[2016-06-14 04:20:24] rapidtrades : there were bids at 693 just now right?
[2016-06-14 04:20:44] rapidtrades : im not going mad?
[2016-06-14 04:21:46] j8 : sure there are
[2016-06-14 04:22:16] rapidtrades : k fella
[2016-06-14 04:27:20] rapidtrades : dam lot of uk polls coming in for brexit this week
[2016-06-14 04:31:37] rapidtrades : https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/politics/market/1.118739911
[2016-06-14 04:54:49] tscha : BitMEX_Arthur: when you say "our main mm" you mean Wally booting up his scripts on a separate aws instance?
[2016-06-14 04:55:47] BitMEX_Arthur : tscha: they are having connection issues with quoine, and i'm told they are working them out
[2016-06-14 05:01:24] 1QaZxSw2 : i would think wally's scripts would do a lot better. this looks like real mm stupidity
[2016-06-14 05:05:12] 1QaZxSw2 : i dont mean stupidity, i mean they have limitatio
[2016-06-14 05:07:08] huangyong : BitMEX_Arthur: @BitMEX_Wally 管理员，能把利率funding调整的那个通知，翻译一下吗，翻译成中文，看不太懂，不知道怎么玩呢
[2016-06-14 05:07:29] 1QaZxSw2 : translation?
[2016-06-14 05:10:58] BitMEX_Arthur : huangyong: 可以
[2016-06-14 05:12:14] huangyong : BitMEX_Arthur: 邮件给我还是，在这群里发一下
[2016-06-14 05:13:01] BitMEX_Arthur : huangyong: 好谢谢
[2016-06-14 05:24:29] BitMEX_Jinming : huangyong: 我们会尽快翻译，然后发邮件给你
[2016-06-14 05:54:54] dharmabum : 1QaZxSw2: They are talking about Obama's wife's legs.
[2016-06-14 05:55:35] dharmabum : 1QaZxSw2: So long and slender for an older woman…
[2016-06-14 06:01:40] 1QaZxSw2 : its beginning to pop
[2016-06-14 06:01:49] billz : ETH looking like a nice short right now
[2016-06-14 06:06:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 44300 @ 695.72 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-14 06:06:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 30000 @ 695.08 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-14 06:26:25] zanza : good morning gents, did I miss any drama while I was away?
[2016-06-14 06:26:41] tscha : zanza: morning. don't think so.
[2016-06-14 06:26:53] zanza : is sleger back ?
[2016-06-14 06:27:33] podizzle3k : dunno but it looks like eth bot said peace out
[2016-06-14 06:31:06] rentchev : Swap again at big discount
[2016-06-14 06:31:22] rentchev : Lots of time until next funding
[2016-06-14 06:31:36] 1QaZxSw2 : its rektistan over here
[2016-06-14 06:41:57] rentchev : Saw the two mega rekt
[2016-06-14 06:45:52] mrp1nk : why mark price is 693.91?
[2016-06-14 06:48:27] rentchev : Funding aperantly afects it
[2016-06-14 06:49:16] rentchev : I don't care that much about mark price anymore
[2016-06-14 06:49:43] rentchev : Since I can put stops on the trade price now
[2016-06-14 06:51:02] mrp1nk : how
[2016-06-14 06:52:10] rentchev : Uncheck mark price trigget
[2016-06-14 06:53:38] mrp1nk : ah, i see
[2016-06-14 07:03:50] rapidtrades : next rate after this should be small right
[2016-06-14 07:04:42] elmorte : Yeah, probably down by the max allowed cap
[2016-06-14 07:06:37] elmorte : 0.4799 minimum...still over 1%/day
[2016-06-14 07:06:37] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, like to be 0.4299%
[2016-06-14 07:06:38] Bacon futures trader : huobi 5 min is coiling since yesterday
[2016-06-14 07:06:45] Bacon futures trader : lol, huob
[2016-06-14 07:07:01] elmorte : The cap is not .325%? @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-06-14 07:07:38] BitMEX_Wally : It can only go up or down by 0.375%
[2016-06-14 07:07:59] elmorte : My bad, was going off of chat logs where someone said it was .325%
[2016-06-14 07:13:07] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: are orders made on mobile listed as `Submitted via API.` ?
[2016-06-14 07:16:06] BitMEX_Wally : Should be "Submitted via Frontend"
[2016-06-14 07:16:10] rentchev : BitMEX_Wally if my stop trigger my limit order is canceled, what if my limit is filled?
[2016-06-14 07:16:22] rentchev : Stop will stay?
[2016-06-14 07:16:29] BitMEX_Wally : rentchev: Yes
[2016-06-14 07:16:37] BitMEX_Wally : rentchev: We have support for OneCancelsTheOther orders in the API
[2016-06-14 07:16:48] BitMEX_Wally : We will bring this to the frontend soon
[2016-06-14 07:17:20] rentchev : I know, have not started with the api yet
[2016-06-14 07:17:37] rentchev : Need some free time
[2016-06-14 07:20:01] rentchev : BitMEX_Wally can I change my nick to Rado?
[2016-06-14 07:23:32] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: Is the 0.375% cap documented anywhere?
[2016-06-14 07:28:18] Samirum : BitMEX_Wally: what price is used for liquidation? Mark price Right?
[2016-06-14 07:28:28] rapidtrades : ya
[2016-06-14 07:28:44] Samirum : OK
[2016-06-14 07:29:36] Samirum : Eth mark price is good for short
[2016-06-14 07:35:24] Mr Blue : red candals all round today guys, more selling is happening than buying, but the line seeems to be getting held so far.
[2016-06-14 07:36:05] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: told you that yesterday mate.
[2016-06-14 07:38:10] rentchev : Yes you did
[2016-06-14 07:38:22] zanza : anyone trade fiat/bitcoin with BTC-e?
[2016-06-14 07:38:40] rapidtrades : what does that mean
[2016-06-14 07:38:46] rentchev : No crazy people here zanza
[2016-06-14 07:38:59] zanza : where do u buy bitcoin rapidtrades?
[2016-06-14 07:39:13] rapidtrades : buy as in what
[2016-06-14 07:39:18] rentchev : Bitfinex
[2016-06-14 07:39:24] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: erm I don't remember mate, but good call if you shorted at 725
[2016-06-14 07:39:41] rapidtrades : u mean with cash or what
[2016-06-14 07:39:47] zanza : BTC-E has a Metatrader 4 interface wonder if anyone used that
[2016-06-14 07:39:55] rapidtrades : yeah im using it
[2016-06-14 07:40:08] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: she means the guy you meet at McDonalds
[2016-06-14 07:40:15] zanza : do you use leverage ?
[2016-06-14 07:40:26] rapidtrades : yeah of course...its btc-e
[2016-06-14 07:40:26] zanza : i read they will do up to 3x lev
[2016-06-14 07:40:37] rapidtrades : yeah its 3/1
[2016-06-14 07:41:03] zanza : is the deposit currency btc or usd/eur?
[2016-06-14 07:41:15] rapidtrades : could be anything of those
[2016-06-14 07:41:19] zanza : and do they have funding rates overnight
[2016-06-14 07:41:24] rapidtrades : nope
[2016-06-14 07:41:39] zanza : so its a good place to hedge then
[2016-06-14 07:42:06] rapidtrades : i only keep a small part of my stash on btce
[2016-06-14 07:42:16] rapidtrades : cos its not the safest place in the world :)
[2016-06-14 07:42:45] zanza : people always say they are shady but, they been around for like 3-4 years?
[2016-06-14 07:42:54] zanza : thats a long time in bitcoin space
[2016-06-14 07:43:20] rapidtrades : i mean that's ur call but i wouldn't hedge all my stash with btc-e
[2016-06-14 07:43:35] rapidtrades : part of it sure
[2016-06-14 07:43:59] zanza : lol
[2016-06-14 07:44:04] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: so far it's been safer than most, one of if not the oldest exchanges, and never robbed anybody, I've been robbed by numerous exchanges for around 20 BTC
[2016-06-14 07:44:16] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: didn't mean to sound like a smart arse. Im no authority on the movements of bitcoin.
[2016-06-14 07:45:40] rapidtrades : also btce is now $14 discount so if u want to short, its not the best place @zanza
[2016-06-14 07:45:42] BitMEX_Wally : rentchev: If you would like to change your username just email support@bitmex.com
[2016-06-14 07:45:59] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: no problem mate, I remember you saying you didn't think it was going 800 yesterday for sure, we're cool.
[2016-06-14 07:46:29] mjmj83 : Can we expect a negative Funding after 4 hours for XBT?
[2016-06-14 07:46:59] BitMEX_Wally : It is possible
[2016-06-14 07:47:08] BitMEX_Wally : After 12 hours
[2016-06-14 07:47:33] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: how is it possible? isn't there a bulitin break?
[2016-06-14 07:48:11] rapidtrades : its gonna take 3 cycles to move in minus?
[2016-06-14 07:49:06] rapidtrades : rate can only change by 0.37%?
[2016-06-14 07:49:11] rapidtrades : or whatever it was
[2016-06-14 07:50:02] lockhedge : yes max 0.375% change every 8h
[2016-06-14 07:50:29] rapidtrades : yeah wally wtf
[2016-06-14 07:51:00] BTCDJS : Yeah WTF wally?
[2016-06-14 07:51:13] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: get in here
[2016-06-14 07:51:46] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: haha ye rates also raped me of some profit for sure
[2016-06-14 07:51:59] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: troll wally
[2016-06-14 07:52:48] Mr Blue : I think rates should be coming down today, as it looks like we'll be staying in the 680 to 700 range for few days at least.
[2016-06-14 07:53:27] BTCDJS : fail
[2016-06-14 07:53:28] Mr Blue : haha okay let me think of a trolling
[2016-06-14 07:54:27] Mr Blue : I sold yesterday for $20 profit on each BTC, I only got 0.15 profit, when should of got 0.25 WALLY raped me!!!!! lol
[2016-06-14 07:55:18] BTCDJS : yeah wally. Raped!
[2016-06-14 07:55:30] BTCDJS : have you ever been raped?
[2016-06-14 07:55:37] BTCDJS : its not nice
[2016-06-14 07:55:39] Mr Blue : lets add him to the sex offenders list
[2016-06-14 07:55:53] Mr Blue : lol ;-)
[2016-06-14 07:56:13] BTCDJS : we will put him in the banister category. thats even worse
[2016-06-14 07:56:28] BTCDJS : Bankster