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[2016-06-14 07:56:31] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: well I was raped yesterday, but the rapest left me 0.15 at least as payment for a good time lol
[2016-06-14 07:57:07] BTCDJS : No mate. Thats not right. Thats how they get you.
[2016-06-14 07:58:02] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: he said next time if I'm a good boy can have 0.2 BTC lol
[2016-06-14 07:58:59] BTCDJS : Thats blackmail. Will the corruption never stop?
[2016-06-14 07:59:25] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: could be worse, he could of been a blackmail ;-)
[2016-06-14 07:59:54] Mr Blue : i'd of needed 0.5 for that lol
[2016-06-14 08:00:30] BTCDJS : stop looking on the bright side. A great injustice has been done to you.
[2016-06-14 08:01:36] Mr Blue : my profits was cut, but I think I read they do some bullshit like dinamic profits, so if exchanges is losing we all lose
[2016-06-14 08:02:08] Mr Blue : exchange*
[2016-06-14 08:02:51] BTCDJS : you are like the R in my name.
[2016-06-14 08:02:55] Mr Blue : I blame the whales that jumped in at 580 like they new
[2016-06-14 08:03:30] Mr Blue : mainly because it should of been me :-(
[2016-06-14 08:04:27] BTCDJS : does anyone else think BTC could make another move up?
[2016-06-14 08:04:54] BTCDJS : Im not 100% convinced its over yet
[2016-06-14 08:04:58] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: yes to 800 but looks like we're resting in a small down trend at the moment
[2016-06-14 08:05:32] sq : looks like another push upo coming!
[2016-06-14 08:06:22] Bacon futures trader : Still coiling
[2016-06-14 08:07:04] Bacon futures trader : Need to get above 4690 cny
[2016-06-14 08:10:54] Mr Blue : bitstamp and kraken just went green candal, lets see if the others follow
[2016-06-14 08:11:41] Mr Blue : nope bitstamp back red lol
[2016-06-14 08:12:45] Bacon futures trader : Don't watch stamp and kraken, they got no liquidity
[2016-06-14 08:13:09] Mr Blue : http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currency/USD.html is playing up, making me refresh the page to see market updates... bullshit
[2016-06-14 08:14:06] Mr Blue : Bacon futures trader: I watch them all, but ye I wouldn't make moves just based on them two places
[2016-06-14 08:14:55] Bacon futures trader : Watching this on huobi: https://www.tradingview.com/x/wjwyvpMu/
[2016-06-14 08:15:07] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: Bitmex uses 0kcoin, Bitfinex, and Bitstamp for their index. Finex and 0kcoin. are the two main ones to look at
[2016-06-14 08:15:16] Bacon futures trader : this chat is buggie af lol
[2016-06-14 08:16:03] BTCDJS : Bacon futures trader: huh?
[2016-06-14 08:16:44] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: ye I haven okc open to watch buys / sells, the others I normally just check out on bitcoincharts when it's not playing up
[2016-06-14 08:17:34] Mr Blue : Bacon futures trader: lol, i'll need to try out tradingview one time, probably a much safer site than bitcoincharts
[2016-06-14 08:18:25] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: are we sure coinbase isn't in the mix?
[2016-06-14 08:18:36] BTCDJS : its not no
[2016-06-14 08:19:21] BTCDJS : tho i wonder sometimes why bitstamp and not coinbase
[2016-06-14 08:19:30] Mr Blue : strange, coinbase us only place I half believe when they say over 3 million customers and counting
[2016-06-14 08:19:59] Mr Blue : is* not us lol fat fingers
[2016-06-14 08:21:19] Mr Blue : but ye I remember last time people got stressed when I mentioned coinbase lol, so time for a join I'll be back soon, happy trading guys
[2016-06-14 08:21:29] Mr Blue : joint
[2016-06-14 08:21:32] Bacon futures trader : Where does the liquidity come from on Bitmex? Only trading it's own orderbook or also liquidity providers from different exchanges?
[2016-06-14 08:22:42] BTCDJS : wally will be able to answer that one. WALLY? you here mate ^^^^^
[2016-06-14 08:23:01] vbmithr : no
[2016-06-14 08:23:05] vbmithr : only it's own order book
[2016-06-14 08:23:06] Mr Blue : Bacon futures trader: it comes from strange Magic ;-)
[2016-06-14 08:23:19] vbmithr : there are market makers I guess :)
[2016-06-14 08:24:33] Bacon futures trader : realised pnl = fees?
[2016-06-14 08:25:09] Bacon futures trader : Trying to figure out eveything. Made and account a few days ago.
[2016-06-14 08:29:50] vbmithr : no!
[2016-06-14 08:30:03] vbmithr : It's your profit and loss
[2016-06-14 08:30:07] vbmithr : realized
[2016-06-14 08:30:12] vbmithr : unrealized is paper profits and loss
[2016-06-14 08:35:07] Mr Blue : Bacon futures trader: I'm fairly new here as well mate, when I started I just assumed sell for more than I paid and make money, and it worked, but with the high lending rate at the moment or w.e it is, you want at least $5 profit per BTC before you sell Id say.
[2016-06-14 08:37:19] Mr Blue : and that's made this game much harder, and probably why old school members have been upset.. but it will be lowered soon enough I hope, and its better than exchange losing its ass, bet the bull market everybody and their dog knows about has been hard for them
[2016-06-14 08:39:54] elmorte : Bacon futures trader: yeah, when you first open a position it's only fees that are realised
[2016-06-14 08:40:30] elmorte : As you start to close the position, actual profit or loss will show up in there as well
[2016-06-14 08:42:01] Mr Blue : but I do like to lick a little ass lol
[2016-06-14 08:42:25] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: disgusting
[2016-06-14 08:42:59] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: only if they didn't wipe first ;-)
[2016-06-14 08:43:18] elmorte : Mr Blue: ...if they wipe, what is there to lick??
[2016-06-14 08:43:47] Mr Blue : elmorte: the bum bum hole
[2016-06-14 08:43:59] BTCDJS : elmorte: guys please
[2016-06-14 08:44:40] Mr Blue : that's what she said
[2016-06-14 08:44:52] elmorte : oooh....
[2016-06-14 08:45:04] Mr Blue : LMAO
[2016-06-14 08:47:05] elmorte : Market here is spiteful or what..."you wanted a convergence, fck you, here's a discount"
[2016-06-14 08:48:39] Mr Blue : elmorte: if I see some greed candals i'll enjoy eating the discount, but it's a risky one at the moment.
[2016-06-14 08:49:21] Mr Blue : clearly no good for shorting though, if your going long it's attractive, however only if you stronglt believe 800
[2016-06-14 08:49:34] Mr Blue : strongly*
[2016-06-14 08:49:46] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: look at 1d chart
[2016-06-14 08:49:52] BTCDJS : I believe
[2016-06-14 08:50:16] kogroken : That monthly chart tho
[2016-06-14 08:50:44] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: I'm still debating but that 10,000 at 690 is tempting me
[2016-06-14 08:51:02] vbmithr : When you take a long XBTUSD position on Bitfinex
[2016-06-14 08:51:11] vbmithr : You pay the USD lending rate there, right?
[2016-06-14 08:51:24] vbmithr : But you don't receive the XBT rate unless you manually lend your XBT in margin funding
[2016-06-14 08:51:43] BTCDJS : kogroken: that 4h chart thohttp://www.tradingview.com/x/HSZDfOJW
[2016-06-14 08:52:36] kogroken : Not sure how you see a double top from the current action
[2016-06-14 08:53:40] Mr Blue : I prob wait till I see clear direction from the market an miss out on extra $30, because big sell wall finex around 745, however same can be said of buying pressure at 680
[2016-06-14 08:54:25] kogroken : We have a pretty nice pennant on the 30 minute bars, but it could adjust down and do some more sideways like it did the last time.
[2016-06-14 08:55:17] kogroken : (looking at china)
[2016-06-14 08:55:27] kogroken : Western pattern is a bit different.
[2016-06-14 08:57:19] BTCDJS : kogroken: sorry that was 2h chart. Heres 4h charthttp://www.tradingview.com/x/11v0ka0q
[2016-06-14 08:58:27] Mr Blue : kogroken: ye I think we'll trade sideways for few days before push up to 800, if not we'll stay around 650/680 till block reward halving.. but I just make guestimates lol
[2016-06-14 09:00:12] kogroken : Hmm, a few days may be a bit high in my estimate.
[2016-06-14 09:00:57] kogroken : And as someone said here earlier, we either go down or up, staying flat at this price until halving is unlikely.
[2016-06-14 09:01:22] Mr Blue : kogroken: probably, but we could do with resting, or market will be accused by the media as just been another pump/dump like willy bot.
[2016-06-14 09:01:45] kogroken : Yeah, if we go up too fast we'll come down sooner.
[2016-06-14 09:03:38] kogroken : I wouldn't worry too much about how the media spins things.
[2016-06-14 09:03:49] Mr Blue : I actually had a theory that okc got robbed, and the big players came together and worked out a plan, rather than anouncing another mtgox when we was still at £150
[2016-06-14 09:03:56] kogroken : media usually follows price, not the other way.
[2016-06-14 09:04:07] kogroken : (well, it is a feedback loop sometimes)
[2016-06-14 09:05:15] Mr Blue : kogroken: saying goes all media is good media,, but I think the isis bullshit disproved that one lol, glad we found them shipping oil to turkey or they'd still probably be blaming Bitcoin.
[2016-06-14 09:05:49] kogroken : It seems it blew over pretty quickly
[2016-06-14 09:06:49] Mr Blue : clearly we don't want the media scaring off the nanas from investing in BTC, and the other free range slaves that think isis wasn't created by the global elites for a purpose
[2016-06-14 09:07:36] Mr Blue : have you guys seen , Four Lions??? epic funny film, but really what sort of message did it send??
[2016-06-14 09:09:30] Mr Blue : haha if you have seen it you'll get this, somebody needs to (bigger) this market up lol
[2016-06-14 09:09:50] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: is indicativeFundingRate in the instrument table predicted funding rate for the next 8h interval?
[2016-06-14 09:10:42] Mr Blue : i'll bigger it lol
[2016-06-14 09:13:19] Mr Blue : yeye your all from the UK and nobodies seen Four Lions??? I call bullshit
[2016-06-14 09:16:43] Mr Blue : you need to get on your rubber diggy rapids and get back to America lol
[2016-06-14 09:20:41] NukeLaloosh : whoa! what is with the eth orderbook?
[2016-06-14 09:22:04] NukeLaloosh : super dodgy
[2016-06-14 09:31:11] Mr Blue : NukeLaloosh: somebody feels like losing money maybe, betting that Bitcoin will drop in price to 600 = eth increase.
[2016-06-14 09:36:06] rapidtrades : wtf stop buying morans
[2016-06-14 09:36:13] NukeLaloosh : some serious premium on that contract. all the asks disappeared for awhile
[2016-06-14 09:36:38] rapidtrades : which
[2016-06-14 09:41:34] vbmithr : what's with the eth order book?
[2016-06-14 09:41:45] vbmithr : seems "fixed" now
[2016-06-14 09:42:07] rapidtrades : vbmithr: yeah i fixed it
[2016-06-14 09:42:11] rapidtrades : ur welcome world
[2016-06-14 09:46:57] tscha : just checked out cryptofacilities.com
[2016-06-14 09:47:12] tscha : one of the most buggy and laggy interfaces I have seen in a long time
[2016-06-14 09:47:46] miramm1115 : tscha: wait until you try to use their API
[2016-06-14 09:48:21] tscha : miramm1115: does it get worse? I mean, every click takes 3-4 seconds until the UI reacts
[2016-06-14 09:52:15] micmix : you couldn't even get order status
[2016-06-14 09:52:26] micmix : maybe it's better now, they have V2
[2016-06-14 10:07:08] NukeLaloosh : TheDao now worth $223M lol
[2016-06-14 10:09:04] zanza : rofl
[2016-06-14 10:09:43] NukeLaloosh : biggest crowdfunded by nearly 2x
[2016-06-14 10:16:48] wurstgelee : thats not how it werks tho. $223m is crowdfund+capital gains
[2016-06-14 10:18:32] NukeLaloosh : they have $223M at their disposal for investments, yes?
[2016-06-14 10:21:23] rapidtrades : 'investments'
[2016-06-14 10:21:36] rapidtrades : funny word for drunken orgies
[2016-06-14 10:25:24] NukeLaloosh : i think if you viewed it as fiat>>ETH>>DAO>>ETH>>fiat, yes you'd have a cap gain
[2016-06-14 10:26:19] podizzle3k : who said eth order book was fixed
[2016-06-14 10:26:34] podizzle3k : fixed as in not a damn person selling
[2016-06-14 10:26:51] podizzle3k : 588 contracts total for sale up to infinity
[2016-06-14 10:26:53] podizzle3k : not great
[2016-06-14 10:29:35] NukeLaloosh : right, and with a 4% premium
[2016-06-14 10:30:02] NukeLaloosh : leading indicator?
[2016-06-14 10:30:40] elmorte : Guess funding needs to be adjusted on ETH as well...
[2016-06-14 10:31:34] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-06-14 10:31:51] rapidtrades : JACK THOSE RATES UP
[2016-06-14 10:31:57] rapidtrades : JACK EM!!!!!!!!!!
[2016-06-14 10:32:04] elmorte : PREMIUM!
[2016-06-14 10:32:08] elmorte : Why are we shouting?
[2016-06-14 10:32:39] elmorte : rapidtrades: Did you dabble in an altcoin? You can tell us...
[2016-06-14 10:33:39] rapidtrades : i have 1 altcoin trade this year, short eth
[2016-06-14 10:33:59] elmorte : Must have taken a lot for you not to call it shitcoin
[2016-06-14 10:34:08] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-06-14 10:37:00] rapidtrades : usd/cnh back above 6.60
[2016-06-14 10:37:42] elmorte : Moon!
[2016-06-14 10:37:50] elmorte : Damnit, I just went short..
[2016-06-14 10:38:05] podizzle3k : did pbc fix it?
[2016-06-14 10:38:18] rapidtrades : fixed it same, around 6.58
[2016-06-14 10:45:52] wurstgelee : i am all set. we my go up now
[2016-06-14 10:45:55] wurstgelee : *may
[2016-06-14 10:47:32] Mr Blue : ItBit 698
[2016-06-14 10:49:44] Gekko : anyone know why etcbtc swap here trading so far away from the spot price? Doesn't the Bitmex contract settle someway vs the Spot??
[2016-06-14 10:50:09] Gekko : looks like an arb there to me
[2016-06-14 10:50:18] elmorte : Gekko: It doesn't settle, that's probably the issue
[2016-06-14 10:50:19] wurstgelee : it does rebalance/stelle against spot (polo index)
[2016-06-14 10:50:27] wurstgelee : *-settle.
[2016-06-14 10:50:38] wurstgelee : but since people think the only way is up, it has a decent premium
[2016-06-14 10:51:25] Gekko : I thought they were going to try tie it to the physical more, or is that only the XBT swap?
[2016-06-14 10:51:41] wurstgelee : not sure but probably
[2016-06-14 10:51:44] NukeLaloosh : liftoff
[2016-06-14 10:52:02] elmorte : XBT yes...proobably ETH too if it stays out of line
[2016-06-14 10:53:40] rapidtrades : guys
[2016-06-14 10:55:55] BitMEX_Arthur : Gekko: XBTUSD was the first product we rolled out the changes on
[2016-06-14 10:56:16] BitMEX_Arthur : We are evaluating how the market is reacting, and will make an announcement if we plan any further changes for the other swap products
[2016-06-14 10:58:09] Bacon futures trader : Huobi looking heavy
[2016-06-14 10:58:13] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Arthur: what changes?
[2016-06-14 10:59:51] Gekko : Ok no problem
[2016-06-14 11:01:35] Bacon futures trader : Yerrr dump it
[2016-06-14 11:16:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 75 @ 0.02775
[2016-06-14 11:16:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 73 @ 0.02789
[2016-06-14 11:16:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 750 @ 0.02780
[2016-06-14 11:21:35] podizzle3k : fridays a long ways away apparently for eth
[2016-06-14 11:22:03] BTCDJS : what do you mean? @podizzle3k
[2016-06-14 11:22:08] podizzle3k : wow whats with that dip on polo eth chart
[2016-06-14 11:22:10] podizzle3k : did it really sell off
[2016-06-14 11:27:23] luckynuke : Today: Longs will be killed
[2016-06-14 11:28:10] rapidtrades : why is okc online
[2016-06-14 11:28:12] rapidtrades : why the fuckckfl
[2016-06-14 11:28:13] rapidtrades : why the fuckckflkp][e]#g]v
[2016-06-14 11:30:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 70000 @ 688.07 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-06-14 11:30:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5000 @ 686.93
[2016-06-14 11:30:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1215 @ 686.43
[2016-06-14 11:30:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5555 @ 686.67
[2016-06-14 11:30:27] REKT : HODL HODL HODL!
[2016-06-14 11:30:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 @ 685.96
[2016-06-14 11:30:54] BTCDJS : if it breaks through 676 thats all folks
[2016-06-14 11:30:57] billz : want to buy the dip but don't want to pay the funding lol
[2016-06-14 11:31:21] elmorte : billz: :)
[2016-06-14 11:31:39] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: Looks good time to buy for me http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/bitfinexUSD_depth.html
[2016-06-14 11:32:35] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: well china is
[2016-06-14 11:32:38] elmorte : Mr Blue: why is there two of each chart? Spot & futures?
[2016-06-14 11:33:50] Mr Blue : elmorte: don't ask me mate I just take a look and ask my crystal ball lol
[2016-06-14 11:34:23] Mr Blue : but ye some big sells here, so be careful guys
[2016-06-14 11:35:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1100 @ 684.89
[2016-06-14 11:35:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 684.33
[2016-06-14 11:35:15] elmorte : Errrrrbody want a piece of the pie....
[2016-06-14 11:35:23] kogroken : Downtime
[2016-06-14 11:35:42] elmorte : you know it
[2016-06-14 11:36:05] elmorte : The question is....how far down
[2016-06-14 11:36:40] Mr Blue : the question is how many bear rugs will I own after today, dead bears I hope lol
[2016-06-14 11:36:40] BTCDJS : elmorte: 590s recover to 625ish is my guess
[2016-06-14 11:36:58] elmorte : I meant in the next 24 minutes :)
[2016-06-14 11:36:59] wurstgelee : btfd ;)
[2016-06-14 11:37:06] rapidtrades : why is finex freaking out like a lil bitch
[2016-06-14 11:37:15] wurstgelee : finex is clearly overreacting
[2016-06-14 11:38:00] BTCDJS : elmorte: if it breaks through here its a down to where I just said
[2016-06-14 11:38:52] jung1 : eth prove that its good investment
[2016-06-14 11:39:05] BTCDJS : jung1: here he is
[2016-06-14 11:39:20] jung1 : shalom
[2016-06-14 11:39:25] rapidtrades : damit right after i exit we get $14 discount
[2016-06-14 11:39:32] BTCDJS : spread the gospel to the people
[2016-06-14 11:39:39] rapidtrades : i only got 5 and by the time i hedged it was 4
[2016-06-14 11:39:47] jung1 : ALL HAIL ALTCOINS
[2016-06-14 11:40:02] rapidtrades : keep it down
[2016-06-14 11:40:05] BTCDJS : jung1: long live the king
[2016-06-14 11:40:38] billz : hopefully the funding in 8 hrs decreases with this dip
[2016-06-14 11:40:49] mjmj83 : Any news on the new funding on xbtusd?
[2016-06-14 11:41:03] rapidtrades : what news do u want
[2016-06-14 11:41:48] Bitcoingirl : rapidtrades: $14 discount but 0.80% funding in 18 minutes
[2016-06-14 11:42:36] arbitrage001 : so
[2016-06-14 11:42:38] wurstgelee : *bounce*
[2016-06-14 11:42:43] arbitrage001 : no dpe on correction?
[2016-06-14 11:42:47] wurstgelee : nope
[2016-06-14 11:42:52] arbitrage001 : lucky me
[2016-06-14 11:43:03] podizzle3k : wurst get your coin in order
[2016-06-14 11:43:15] wurstgelee : podizzle3k: what seems to be the problem?
[2016-06-14 11:43:43] podizzle3k : haha u tell me 4700 has become 4600
[2016-06-14 11:43:45] mjmj83 : What will be the new % of interest for xbtusd
[2016-06-14 11:43:59] arbitrage001 : mjmj83: should be around 0.5
[2016-06-14 11:44:10] arbitrage001 : since they cap the rate change
[2016-06-14 11:44:17] justinlooking : i broke the chart :(
[2016-06-14 11:44:33] BitMEX_Wally : Next rate will be 0.4299%
[2016-06-14 11:44:41] elmorte : justinlooking: not again...
[2016-06-14 11:44:46] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: booooooooooo
[2016-06-14 11:44:53] rapidtrades : everyone boo wally
[2016-06-14 11:45:00] billz : wooo
[2016-06-14 11:45:00] BTCDJS : justinlooking: it doesn't play porn so don't force it to do something it can't and all will be fine
[2016-06-14 11:45:04] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: lol, daily rate is still well over 1%
[2016-06-14 11:45:05] elmorte : rapidtrades: it's ok, you only need to short in the last 10 mins :p
[2016-06-14 11:45:14] BTCDJS : booooooooooo
[2016-06-14 11:45:25] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: you realize high rate will kill the exchange ?
[2016-06-14 11:45:28] justinlooking : u guys
[2016-06-14 11:45:37] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: no i don't realize that
[2016-06-14 11:45:48] wurstgelee : podizzle3k: ha
[2016-06-14 11:45:52] justinlooking : srsly, how do i get candles back?
[2016-06-14 11:46:00] podizzle3k : on which chart
[2016-06-14 11:46:06] BitMEX_Wally : The rate can only stay high if there are lots of people bidding the price up, which only happens when the exchange is not dead :)
[2016-06-14 11:46:06] wurstgelee : we bouncing now tho
[2016-06-14 11:46:08] elmorte : IKEA bud
[2016-06-14 11:46:15] podizzle3k : wuahha
[2016-06-14 11:46:23] podizzle3k : IKEA BREH
[2016-06-14 11:46:46] BitMEX_Wally : The rate will probably fall to 0.11% in 8 hours
[2016-06-14 11:47:03] wurstgelee : i got lost at IKEA once. almost starved to death
[2016-06-14 11:47:14] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Wally: assuming no premium in the next 8 hours?
[2016-06-14 11:47:17] podizzle3k : what about the meatballs
[2016-06-14 11:47:17] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: .1 sounds good ;)
[2016-06-14 11:47:29] podizzle3k : i got lost in an abercrombie and fitch once and had a panic attack
[2016-06-14 11:47:39] podizzle3k : all the metrosexuals and it was designed like some weird maze
[2016-06-14 11:47:41] podizzle3k : plus i was high as hell
[2016-06-14 11:47:51] wurstgelee : that was the problem at IKEA too tbh
[2016-06-14 11:47:53] justinlooking : podizzle3k: this one: https://www.tradingview.com/x/GPh3YDGq derp derp
[2016-06-14 11:48:00] BitMEX_Wally : arbitrage001: Assuming no, or slightly negative premium (just like we currently have)
[2016-06-14 11:48:02] wurstgelee : not the metros, the high part
[2016-06-14 11:48:06] podizzle3k : haha
[2016-06-14 11:48:21] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Wally: if there is discount, will bitfinex lending rate be used?
[2016-06-14 11:48:25] wurstgelee : and IKEA IS a weird maze
[2016-06-14 11:48:29] podizzle3k : the funny thing was i ran into a lady who also was having a panic attack at the same time so we calmed each other down
[2016-06-14 11:48:36] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-06-14 11:48:40] podizzle3k : collectively said fuck this place and left together
[2016-06-14 11:48:41] rapidtrades : the guys at finex panic like lil girls
[2016-06-14 11:48:56] podizzle3k : rapidtrades: they dont have the steely reserve that it takes to arbitrage a premium
[2016-06-14 11:49:07] rapidtrades : i agree
[2016-06-14 11:49:08] wurstgelee : :) :) :)
[2016-06-14 11:49:37] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: finex price carries more weight than bitstamp and okcoin
[2016-06-14 11:49:43] wurstgelee : podizzle3k: whats your shitcoin doing? not pumping any more?
[2016-06-14 11:50:03] podizzle3k : wurstgelee: did you see that dump on the 1m?
[2016-06-14 11:50:15] wurstgelee : eth?
[2016-06-14 11:50:18] wurstgelee : yap
[2016-06-14 11:50:19] podizzle3k : yeah check it out
[2016-06-14 11:50:23] podizzle3k : nasty fuckery
[2016-06-14 11:50:34] podizzle3k : right out the okc playbook
[2016-06-14 11:50:39] wurstgelee : a good dump tbh
[2016-06-14 11:50:43] wurstgelee : cleanly wollsim'd eth
[2016-06-14 11:50:47] wurstgelee : *woolsim
[2016-06-14 11:51:47] Mr Blue : woodchipper 692
[2016-06-14 11:52:00] podizzle3k : yep
[2016-06-14 11:52:02] rapidtrades : don't worry bout it
[2016-06-14 11:52:09] arbitrage001 : price will revert back to normal right after funding
[2016-06-14 11:52:26] arbitrage001 : buy now, you can benefit more even if you pay funding rate
[2016-06-14 11:52:26] rapidtrades : maybe, maybe not
[2016-06-14 11:52:39] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: so go on, buy ;)
[2016-06-14 11:52:49] podizzle3k : those eth bids might start rethinking soon
[2016-06-14 11:52:52] Bacon futures trader : Damn we are going down
[2016-06-14 11:52:55] rapidtrades : yeah buy jew, i have my ask there
[2016-06-14 11:53:05] podizzle3k : Bacon futures trader: hows bacon fundamentals looking
[2016-06-14 11:53:14] arbitrage001 : i am buying at bid, not ask lol
[2016-06-14 11:53:25] rapidtrades : that's not buying
[2016-06-14 11:53:34] rapidtrades : noone's gonna hit ur cheapass bid
[2016-06-14 11:53:48] podizzle3k : ohhhhhh
[2016-06-14 11:54:07] Bacon futures trader : Bacon fundamentals tell me to go long
[2016-06-14 11:54:13] arbitrage001 : price will go back to 691 after funding hit
[2016-06-14 11:54:23] arbitrage001 : so, even paying 0.8%
[2016-06-14 11:54:24] rapidtrades : or not
[2016-06-14 11:54:28] arbitrage001 : will still gain more
[2016-06-14 11:54:52] rapidtrades : u forget how stupid ppl are here
[2016-06-14 11:54:52] Bacon futures trader : 681s going to get dumped
[2016-06-14 11:55:27] justinlooking : fcukin chart's really fubared now
[2016-06-14 11:55:29] arbitrage001 : not when china still in 700 range
[2016-06-14 11:56:08] elmorte : Huo bi 700+
[2016-06-14 11:56:40] arbitrage001 : moment of truth in 4 mins !
[2016-06-14 11:57:11] elmorte : This is it....and Miss Bitmex UTC noon 14/06 is....
[2016-06-14 11:58:35] rapidtrades : last chance to dump to shit longs
[2016-06-14 11:58:41] Bacon futures trader : arbitrage001: what's in 4 minutes?
[2016-06-14 11:58:47] wurstgelee : funding
[2016-06-14 11:58:48] wurstgelee : in 1
[2016-06-14 11:58:51] wurstgelee : minute now
[2016-06-14 11:58:53] rapidtrades : nothing, dont worry about it @Bacon futures trader
[2016-06-14 11:58:56] elmorte : no trades in 6 minutes
[2016-06-14 11:59:02] arbitrage001 : Bacon futures trader: what wurstgelee said
[2016-06-14 11:59:15] Mr Blue : moon it lol
[2016-06-14 11:59:21] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-06-14 11:59:25] arbitrage001 : 10 dollars gain in 1 min
[2016-06-14 12:00:01] arbitrage001 : possibly more
[2016-06-14 12:00:23] mjmj83 : 0.8049% in 8 hours???
[2016-06-14 12:00:24] LeSmoke : Why there is so big premium on ethxbt?
[2016-06-14 12:00:36] arbitrage001 : opps, only 4 dollars gain
[2016-06-14 12:00:51] arbitrage001 : now 9 dollars
[2016-06-14 12:00:56] arbitrage001 : i was close
[2016-06-14 12:01:18] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: lol
[2016-06-14 12:01:34] rapidtrades : more like no dollar gain :)
[2016-06-14 12:01:45] rapidtrades : once u factor in the $5.5 funding
[2016-06-14 12:01:49] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: check last trade before and after funding
[2016-06-14 12:02:00] rapidtrades : was that ur trade?
[2016-06-14 12:02:05] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: nope
[2016-06-14 12:02:05] elmorte : first guy bought at 685
[2016-06-14 12:02:11] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: then shut it
[2016-06-14 12:02:38] elmorte : Oh well...much ado..
[2016-06-14 12:03:07] wurstgelee : 685 was me iirc
[2016-06-14 12:03:11] wurstgelee : at least 2k of it
[2016-06-14 12:03:16] CaptainDean : This funding behavior needs to be reviewed, it's kind of weird to see dump for funding ...
[2016-06-14 12:03:26] wurstgelee : was sitting there for 1-2 seconds...and if noone wants to buy... ;)
[2016-06-14 12:03:28] rapidtrades : CaptainDean: don't worry about it
[2016-06-14 12:04:04] CaptainDean : i'm about to trade out of that windows in future ...
[2016-06-14 12:04:22] elmorte : you a Mac person?
[2016-06-14 12:05:25] CaptainDean : don't worry about the funds fees ?
[2016-06-14 12:05:32] BTCDJS : elmorte: mate. theres funny. and theres you
[2016-06-14 12:15:22] gustavo7 : why did it dump so deep
[2016-06-14 12:15:42] gustavo7 : my precious stop
[2016-06-14 12:16:31] BTCDJS : gustavo7: just before funding its better to be short. so people put in massive sell orders for the money
[2016-06-14 12:19:26] vbmithr : it should not change anything
[2016-06-14 12:19:34] vbmithr : the mark price adjusts for funding
[2016-06-14 12:20:19] zanza : so if the Bitmex spot is below XBT spot, shouldn't there be negative interest?
[2016-06-14 12:20:43] CarlT : hello, if I made withdrawal at 12:02 today, shouldn't it be Completed already? Still shows just Confirmed
[2016-06-14 12:21:03] arbitrage001 : CarlT: withdrawal will process in 40 mins
[2016-06-14 12:21:10] arbitrage001 : same time everyday
[2016-06-14 12:21:19] BTCDJS : CarlT: there a countdown on withdrawals page
[2016-06-14 12:21:56] CarlT : Thanks! where can I see withdrawals page?
[2016-06-14 12:22:21] BTCDJS : CarlT: top of screen click account
[2016-06-14 12:22:37] arbitrage001 : the text on the bottoom of the withdrawal page
[2016-06-14 12:22:51] arbitrage001 : it said in 37 mins
[2016-06-14 12:23:34] CarlT : ah, I see, thanks! I'm 13:23 here, but GMT, got confused. Thanks again
[2016-06-14 12:25:04] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: when the last traded price is lower than the mark price its cheap to go long right?
[2016-06-14 12:27:33] arbitrage001 : BTCDJS: why you think this is the case?
[2016-06-14 12:28:00] BTCDJS : arbitrage001: because when its the other way around its cheap to go short
[2016-06-14 12:28:15] BTCDJS : thats if I understand it correctly
[2016-06-14 12:28:22] BTCDJS : which is why I asked
[2016-06-14 12:28:26] arbitrage001 : BTCDJS: the mark price is just artificial
[2016-06-14 12:28:44] arbitrage001 : Authur can mark it up and down as he sees fit
[2016-06-14 12:29:13] BTCDJS : the premium is the difference between those two prices?
[2016-06-14 12:29:22] arbitrage001 : no
[2016-06-14 12:29:42] BTCDJS : how do you know what the premium is at this time then?
[2016-06-14 12:29:46] arbitrage001 : premium is the price above the bitcoin index price used to settle swap
[2016-06-14 12:30:01] arbitrage001 : dude
[2016-06-14 12:30:12] arbitrage001 : you should know what you are doing before trading here
[2016-06-14 12:30:44] BTCDJS : arbitrage001: I buy low and sell high. Im working out the rest as I go along
[2016-06-14 12:30:56] arbitrage001 : what is low and what is high?
[2016-06-14 12:31:02] arbitrage001 : and what is market price?
[2016-06-14 12:31:26] arbitrage001 : all products here are contract of difference
[2016-06-14 12:31:32] BTCDJS : arbitrage001: yeah its all relative
[2016-06-14 12:32:01] arbitrage001 : btc you trade here are artificial
[2016-06-14 12:32:10] arbitrage001 : have no impact on the "real" price
[2016-06-14 12:32:39] etheman : hi
[2016-06-14 12:32:44] etheman : i am new
[2016-06-14 12:33:26] BTCDJS : arbitrage001: and why would that make a difference to me trading here?
[2016-06-14 12:33:55] justinlooking : hello etheman, welcome to the madhouse
[2016-06-14 12:34:04] arbitrage001 : BTCDJS: it does because you are using mark price as an anchor for trading
[2016-06-14 12:34:22] etheman : hello eveyone
[2016-06-14 12:34:28] arbitrage001 : without fully understanding "market" price
[2016-06-14 12:36:19] BTCDJS : yeah you got me there mate
[2016-06-14 12:37:34] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: well funding is now at $3, still high...so finex is still cheaper to long if u plan to hold longer then few hrs
[2016-06-14 12:38:10] rapidtrades : but if we go up, premium here will spike higher as u know....so its a tough call
[2016-06-14 12:38:26] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: you should explain market price first
[2016-06-14 12:38:32] rapidtrades : no f off
[2016-06-14 12:38:35] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades:lol
[2016-06-14 12:38:49] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: thought you are btcdjs friend?
[2016-06-14 12:39:04] arbitrage001 : he probably doesnt know what premium and discount is
[2016-06-14 12:39:15] rapidtrades : of course he knows
[2016-06-14 12:39:26] BTCDJS : arbitrage001: all I know about market price is never to buy or sell it. I set limit orders.
[2016-06-14 12:39:40] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: read back what he asked
[2016-06-14 12:40:00] rapidtrades : he was just looking for confirmation :)
[2016-06-14 12:40:00] arbitrage001 : i need to go out
[2016-06-14 12:40:12] arbitrage001 : otherwise i will explain it myself
[2016-06-14 12:40:16] arbitrage001 : dinnertime for me
[2016-06-14 12:41:22] Mr Blue : coinbase 691
[2016-06-14 12:42:12] rapidtrades : prices are holding up okay so far
[2016-06-14 12:42:44] BTCDJS : that 680 is acting as strong support now
[2016-06-14 12:43:09] BTCDJS : 676
[2016-06-14 12:46:10] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: what are the brexit odds here https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/politics/market/1.118739911
[2016-06-14 12:48:30] justinlooking : 7/4
[2016-06-14 12:49:11] rapidtrades : tnx
[2016-06-14 12:49:53] rapidtrades : justinlooking: that's for leave or remain? seems a bit high for leave
[2016-06-14 12:50:11] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: I dont gamble. That looks like gibberish to me
[2016-06-14 12:50:17] justinlooking : for leave
[2016-06-14 12:50:32] justinlooking : remain is 4/7, naturally
[2016-06-14 12:50:57] BTCDJS : justinlooking: so whats the 13/8 lark?
[2016-06-14 12:51:01] rapidtrades : k so 43% for leave?
[2016-06-14 12:51:13] rapidtrades : seems too high
[2016-06-14 12:52:15] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: did you know everyone who doesn't vote gets counted as a stay
[2016-06-14 12:52:29] rapidtrades : i doubt that
[2016-06-14 12:52:37] BTCDJS : no its true
[2016-06-14 12:52:43] rapidtrades : u meant to say that the question is framed for exit..
[2016-06-14 12:52:56] rapidtrades : do u want to exit the EU <<< as such?
[2016-06-14 12:53:05] justinlooking : it's not 43% rapid
[2016-06-14 12:53:21] justinlooking : if it was 7/4 is a bit over 2/1, which would be 33%
[2016-06-14 12:53:29] rapidtrades : there should be two different odds...what are they
[2016-06-14 12:53:34] rapidtrades : 7/4 and what
[2016-06-14 12:53:39] BTCDJS : yes but I can't vote anyway because I'm South African
[2016-06-14 12:54:02] justinlooking : it'the invserve, 4/7 (commonly spoken as "7/4 on")
[2016-06-14 12:54:09] rapidtrades : are u sure? residents should be able to vote
[2016-06-14 12:54:26] rapidtrades : u prolly missed the registration anyway
[2016-06-14 12:54:27] BTCDJS : Citizens who don't vote get automatically counted as a stay in
[2016-06-14 12:54:46] justinlooking : BTCDJS: that isn't true surely
[2016-06-14 12:55:05] BTCDJS : thats what I was told. I have permanent leave to remain. but I'm not a citizen
[2016-06-14 12:55:12] BTCDJS : justinlooking: yes it is
[2016-06-14 12:55:12] rapidtrades : it isn't but the question is prolly framed to make it for the leave campaign
[2016-06-14 12:55:22] BTCDJS : Cameron wants to stay
[2016-06-14 12:56:10] justinlooking : the most biased referendum in history
[2016-06-14 12:56:22] BTCDJS : he is on the news telling everyone it would be a mistake to leave. But there are adverts on the tv pointing out to everyone the reasons it would be better to leave
[2016-06-14 12:56:50] rapidtrades : i mean from a legal standpoint that's the only way it could've been done...because leaving is violating the status quo
[2016-06-14 12:57:23] rapidtrades : the propose a change and it has to be voted on
[2016-06-14 12:58:08] justinlooking : brexit is a diversion so they can quietly slip thru the anti-privacy and pro-capitalist changes that will further feather MP's and their mates's nests...
[2016-06-14 12:59:00] podizzle3k : would be nice to take a long position on ETH
[2016-06-14 12:59:35] rapidtrades : Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union? <<< question
[2016-06-14 12:59:38] BTCDJS : I know more about american politics then I do of British politics. So I'm not really sure whats going on.
[2016-06-14 12:59:48] rapidtrades : question seems fair to me
[2016-06-14 13:00:00] podizzle3k : i think people are afraid of muslims so they want independence from the EU immigration policies
[2016-06-14 13:00:01] BTCDJS : didn't see it
[2016-06-14 13:00:07] podizzle3k : so they can deport them
[2016-06-14 13:00:45] podizzle3k : could be the GBP is stronger than the euro too but i dont put enough faith in people to make a rational choice like that
[2016-06-14 13:00:54] podizzle3k : more likely terrorism fear
[2016-06-14 13:01:09] justinlooking : BTCDJS: Citizens who don't vote get automatically counted as a stay in. <--- definitely not true
[2016-06-14 13:01:33] rapidtrades : justinlooking: how is 7/4 odds not 43%
[2016-06-14 13:01:49] BTCDJS : how do you know its def not true?
[2016-06-14 13:02:11] asdfman : Citizens are wards.
[2016-06-14 13:02:12] rapidtrades : cause voting is not done like that
[2016-06-14 13:02:53] BTCDJS : so someone has spread a rumour that everyone believes
[2016-06-14 13:03:50] rapidtrades : from the question i see no way what u said could be true
[2016-06-14 13:05:26] justinlooking : u don't need to ask why pro-brexiters would spread that rumour, it's the first i've head of it
[2016-06-14 13:05:50] BTCDJS : well my wife whole family who never vote for anything, are voting to leave based on that rumour.
[2016-06-14 13:05:59] justinlooking : then the rumour is doing it's job
[2016-06-14 13:06:31] rapidtrades : i mean voting for leave is not the worst thing in the world :)
[2016-06-14 13:06:39] BTCDJS : but cameron wants everyone to vote to stay.
[2016-06-14 13:06:53] BTCDJS : who is benefiting here from that rumour
[2016-06-14 13:07:06] justinlooking : *cameron says he wants everyone to vote stay
[2016-06-14 13:07:55] Mr Blue : lol doesn't matter if we're in the EU we kept the £ and I'm not racist but it's nice to see some white imiragion for once, also if EU is one big country and prices will stabalise one day, your family could do what I did and buy property in Bulgaria
[2016-06-14 13:08:51] BTCDJS : anyone who says Im not racist but, Is a racist
[2016-06-14 13:08:58] Mr Blue : Bulgaria is like Spain 30 years ago,,, nice and cheap lol
[2016-06-14 13:10:20] Bacon futures trader : Howmuch does an average house cost in Bulgaria?
[2016-06-14 13:10:43] Mr Blue : Bacon futures trader: £20,000
[2016-06-14 13:10:57] BTCDJS : wat?
[2016-06-14 13:11:18] Bacon futures trader : lol, time to sell my bitcoins and buy a house in Bulgaria
[2016-06-14 13:11:26] BTCDJS : yeah me too
[2016-06-14 13:11:54] BTCDJS : yoghurt country
[2016-06-14 13:12:07] Mr Blue : Bacon futures trader: lol I did that last time Bitcoin was at £600
[2016-06-14 13:12:26] rapidtrades : Mr Blue: u paid 20k for a house?
[2016-06-14 13:12:31] rapidtrades : which city
[2016-06-14 13:12:59] justinlooking : rapid, think this way: 1/1 (more commonly called evens) is 50% probability, 2/1 = 33% (think three possible outcomes), 4/1 = 20% ... 7/4 = 36% becasuse [[ 4 / (4 + 7) ]]
[2016-06-14 13:13:17] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: No I paid £18,000 not in the city but Varna district
[2016-06-14 13:13:26] rapidtrades : exactly
[2016-06-14 13:13:45] rapidtrades : what's the point
[2016-06-14 13:14:03] elmorte : Mr Blue: been there yet?
[2016-06-14 13:14:10] rapidtrades : middle of nowhere
[2016-06-14 13:14:23] justinlooking : ignore 3 possible outcomes that is nonsense
[2016-06-14 13:14:37] Mr Blue : yes I'm going on saturday as well @elmorte
[2016-06-14 13:14:41] BTCDJS : so that can't be the average price of a house in bulgaria then
[2016-06-14 13:14:44] elmorte : justinlooking: that's just odd
[2016-06-14 13:15:00] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: its nowhere near average
[2016-06-14 13:15:01] elmorte : Mr Blue: nice, think they're predicting low 40s
[2016-06-14 13:15:09] Mr Blue : elmorte: when I went to buy started at sofia, went to russ then down to varn via train
[2016-06-14 13:15:18] elmorte : I don't know what that is in Queen units
[2016-06-14 13:15:54] elmorte : Mr Blue: smoked the savings as you went along? :
[2016-06-14 13:16:03] Mr Blue : elmorte: should be nice, I'm going to spend some time in sunny beach as well, because family is also going for a holiday
[2016-06-14 13:16:44] Mr Blue : elmorte: haha it was hard to find bud, didn't get a conection till my time in Varna city
[2016-06-14 13:17:17] Mr Blue : elmorte: class A in Bulgaria, apart from in Sunny beach where they sell it to tourists in the sex shops lol
[2016-06-14 13:18:07] rapidtrades : they sell what in sex shops? pot?
[2016-06-14 13:18:18] elmorte : Hehe
[2016-06-14 13:18:24] rapidtrades : what's going on lol
[2016-06-14 13:18:24] Mr Blue : ye cannabis
[2016-06-14 13:19:35] rapidtrades : well that's weird
[2016-06-14 13:20:13] BTCDJS : to tourists no less. I mean apart from visiting the sites, the sex shops are a must.
[2016-06-14 13:20:24] Mr Blue : lol
[2016-06-14 13:20:32] justinlooking : rapid: from wiki: A relative probability of x represents odds of (1 − x)/x, e.g. 0.2 is (1 − 0.2)/0.2 = 0.8/0.2 = 4/1 (4-1, 4 to 1).
[2016-06-14 13:20:43] rapidtrades : UR WRONG SIR
[2016-06-14 13:22:18] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: he's done all that homework, searching wiki and what not and you just dismiss his findings?
[2016-06-14 13:22:30] justinlooking : ignorance is bliss
[2016-06-14 13:22:59] rapidtrades : 1. 4 pays 7 can not be for leave