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[2016-05-18 00:04:00] BitMEX_Arthur : which XBTUSD is a necessary compenent
[2016-05-18 00:21:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 176 @ 0.02711
[2016-05-18 00:26:55] mrp1nk : one does not simply short an uptrend
[2016-05-18 00:30:08] Thedude : BitMEX_Arthur: As a "regular" margin trader i'm loving the perpetual contract trading. It's really great gonna move most of my trading to bitmex it's been a great experience ?
[2016-05-18 00:41:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 410 @ 0.02743
[2016-05-18 01:01:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 700 @ 0.02759
[2016-05-18 01:26:58] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Arthur: am I able to see the daily funding settlements on my account for ETHXBT?
[2016-05-18 01:30:29] lockhedge : NukeLaloosh: in your trade history www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-05-18 01:31:40] lockhedge : use {"execType":"Funding"} if you only want to see Funding
[2016-05-18 01:32:45] NukeLaloosh : lockhedge: ok i see it there, thank you
[2016-05-18 01:42:16] NukeLaloosh : .ETHPON24 shows yesterday's rate .3783%. Shouldn't that be 0.03783% ?
[2016-05-18 01:44:18] NukeLaloosh : i can only go back as far as 2016-05-17T23:39:00.000Z on the csv download but even that shows rates in the 0.03% neighborhood
[2016-05-18 01:53:27] arbitrage001 : NukeLaloosh: rate is taken from polo
[2016-05-18 01:53:43] arbitrage001 : which fluctuate a lot
[2016-05-18 01:56:35] NukeLaloosh : 10x is a lot of fluctuation
[2016-05-18 01:57:18] arbitrage001 : NukeLaloosh: not in crypto world
[2016-05-18 01:58:22] miramm1115 : NukeLaloosh: 0.3783% is correct, lots of ETH is tied up in DAO
[2016-05-18 01:59:21] arbitrage001 : i am seeing 0.3440
[2016-05-18 01:59:30] NukeLaloosh : looking at polo eth rates now, amont is tens of thousands deep just to reach .05%
[2016-05-18 01:59:32] arbitrage001 : where is 0.3783 from?
[2016-05-18 02:00:12] NukeLaloosh : .3783% was yesterday's ETHPON24H index
[2016-05-18 02:01:54] lockhedge : NukeLaloosh: you can click on Funding in the Execution Type column or copy {"execType":"Funding"} into the text field and click Search to filter results for your .csv
[2016-05-18 02:02:06] NukeLaloosh : around .0003 (not in % terms, so 0.03%) were the minute rates taken for ETHPON
[2016-05-18 02:03:02] NukeLaloosh : ... late on the 17th that is
[2016-05-18 02:06:12] miramm1115 : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.ETHPON and click 5d
[2016-05-18 02:06:29] miramm1115 : you will see big spikes on the chart
[2016-05-18 02:06:55] miramm1115 : it was up to 1.4% at one point
[2016-05-18 02:08:04] NukeLaloosh : miramm1115: wow
[2016-05-18 02:09:45] NukeLaloosh : ok yeah that satisfies my curiosity, thank you. seems unlikely to have 10X swings on a lending rate, but arbitrage001 says not in crypto
[2016-05-18 02:10:49] miramm1115 : it's common to see rates spike before/during the pump, pumpers are trying to make shorting expensive
[2016-05-18 02:32:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 3 @ 0.02777 :punch: :whale:
[2016-05-18 02:34:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 34 @ 0.02800
[2016-05-18 02:54:07] j8 : miramm1115: to do that you'd need to borrow without shorting right? i don't think you can do that on polo
[2016-05-18 02:54:34] billz : don't even want to short this w that rate
[2016-05-18 02:54:55] billz : might do a quick scalp though
[2016-05-18 03:01:37] miramm1115 : j8: you short into your own bids using multiple accounts on the way up, and close your shorts after the dump. other traders do the rest
[2016-05-18 03:02:26] miramm1115 : just need lots of money to play like that, so it's much easier with smaller alts
[2016-05-18 03:02:30] j8 : that makes sense
[2016-05-18 03:03:41] miramm1115 : hard to do on big alts like ETH unless supply is restricted
[2016-05-18 03:04:20] j8 : 15% or so in the DAO.. probably a lot of that was being loaned
[2016-05-18 03:05:10] miramm1115 : 15% of total ETH and probably 30-50% of actively traded/loaned ETH
[2016-05-18 03:05:21] j8 : yeah
[2016-05-18 03:07:03] miramm1115 : just to be clear I'm not involved in any of that, it's illegal market manipulation
[2016-05-18 03:09:52] j8 : of course. it's important to think about these things so you know how you're getting screwed
[2016-05-18 03:33:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 70 @ 0.02820
[2016-05-18 03:33:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 75 @ 0.02821
[2016-05-18 04:01:54] diepnh : hi
[2016-05-18 04:01:59] diepnh : anybody here
[2016-05-18 04:04:00] diepnh : if I want to speculate Ether for long, what should I do ?
[2016-05-18 04:04:26] diepnh : spot trading, margin trading, future contract?
[2016-05-18 04:05:30] miramm1115 : if you think Ether will go up, click Etherium and buy ETHXBT
[2016-05-18 04:05:41] diepnh : yes
[2016-05-18 04:05:45] diepnh : but my question is
[2016-05-18 04:05:51] diepnh : such as I have 100$
[2016-05-18 04:06:01] diepnh : but I want to use leverage
[2016-05-18 04:06:15] diepnh : I see the max leverage is 33:1
[2016-05-18 04:06:37] diepnh : so, if I buy 100$ Ether with 10:1 leverage
[2016-05-18 04:06:52] diepnh : if Ether goes down,
[2016-05-18 04:07:12] diepnh : when I lost all my balance 100$?
[2016-05-18 04:07:23] diepnh : I mean about margin call
[2016-05-18 04:09:41] miramm1115 : the order confirmation dialog shows estimated liquidation price, you can see when you are going to be margin called
[2016-05-18 04:10:30] diepnh : it's on dialog after I ordered?
[2016-05-18 04:11:40] miramm1115 : after you click Buy it will show all info and ask you to confirm the order. you can click cancel if you don't want to buy
[2016-05-18 04:11:50] diepnh : oh, it's nice,
[2016-05-18 04:11:51] diepnh : thank u
[2016-05-18 04:11:53] diepnh : :-)
[2016-05-18 04:12:13] miramm1115 : or you can do the math yourself :smile:
[2016-05-18 04:16:28] diepnh : yep
[2016-05-18 04:16:35] diepnh : But I don't know the concept
[2016-05-18 04:17:46] lockhedge : look at the contract specs https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/ETHXBT Initial Margin and Maintenance Margin
[2016-05-18 04:23:28] diepnh : thank u
[2016-05-18 05:05:49] ayy_lmao : eth spread yet again shit
[2016-05-18 05:13:18] billz : yeah spread sucks but w this rise it doesn't matter if your long lol
[2016-05-18 05:13:35] billz : sucks for shorting though
[2016-05-18 05:26:59] billz : no one is buying btc here though even though it's above 454, liquidity on here can really get annoying despite these massive margins
[2016-05-18 05:37:32] miramm1115 : billz: you can buy 30k worth of btc with like 40c slippage, that's not too bad
[2016-05-18 07:48:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 28 @ 0.02833
[2016-05-18 08:14:36] rapidtrades : billz: still short bud?
[2016-05-18 08:16:51] billz : rapidtrades: nope put in an sell order in the 0.029s though
[2016-05-18 08:19:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 200 @ 0.02860
[2016-05-18 08:23:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 133 @ 0.02868
[2016-05-18 08:23:19] zanza : how you like the new perpetuals rapidtrades ?
[2016-05-18 08:23:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 16 @ 0.02869
[2016-05-18 08:33:28] rapidtrades : zanza: its shit
[2016-05-18 08:34:47] zanza : reason ?
[2016-05-18 08:35:04] rapidtrades : no settlement, no quanto
[2016-05-18 08:35:31] rapidtrades : its just spot at 100/1 with clawback risk
[2016-05-18 08:36:16] tscha : how is the volume/open value of the new swap compared to the 24h+48h+weekly?
[2016-05-18 08:37:05] rapidtrades : idk...we used to settle 40-50k on slow days and +100k
[2016-05-18 08:37:13] rapidtrades : on action days
[2016-05-18 08:37:39] rapidtrades : now says 500k open interest
[2016-05-18 08:38:12] BitMEX_Arthur : Open interest is larger, trading volumes lower but we believe in the long run this will be a vastly superior product
[2016-05-18 08:39:52] trestres : BitMEX_Arthur: I see you are not updating leaderboard. There are a reason?
[2016-05-18 08:40:04] rapidtrades : we'll see...right now there's some 20-30 cents premium to long plus i have to pay daily interest
[2016-05-18 08:40:25] rapidtrades : compared to other futures that's not very competitve...for shorts maybe
[2016-05-18 08:40:57] rapidtrades : but then again when shorting on other platforms ur gonna collect the premium so
[2016-05-18 08:41:45] rapidtrades : personally i only see myself trading here when i need the leverage, which could happen
[2016-05-18 08:41:59] rapidtrades : not that easy to get leverage on eth and ltc
[2016-05-18 08:43:42] BitMEX_Arthur : trestres: what do you mean not updating
[2016-05-18 08:45:15] trestres : till past week updating was in real time... now the numbers are the same of 4-5 days ago
[2016-05-18 08:45:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 23 @ 0.02896
[2016-05-18 08:46:41] BitMEX_Arthur : trestres: I'll check
[2016-05-18 08:47:16] trestres : tnks ;-)
[2016-05-18 09:12:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 1175 @ 0.02884
[2016-05-18 09:20:28] mrp1nk : #toldya
[2016-05-18 09:23:05] mrp1nk : right hereis much more legit short entry for eth, but i'm not sure if the dETH train will stop here. probably retrace a little bit
[2016-05-18 09:24:58] billz : yup managed to scalp a quick short for a decent profit, 0.03 is a pretty big wall right now
[2016-05-18 09:29:15] mrp1nk : if this level breaks, then i wouldn't wonder if it comes close to the ATH
[2016-05-18 09:31:49] billz : Yeah I agree will probably try for 0.04 if that happens, buy orders going crazy on polo so that may just happen
[2016-05-18 09:35:55] mrp1nk : anyway, i'm looking forward to the day on which that dao/eth bubble pops
[2016-05-18 09:39:55] billz : I'm hoping it lasts until atleast lisk is released since i'm heavily invested in it but it will probably pop following the end of DAO sale is what i'm thinking
[2016-05-18 09:56:25] billz : .0296 was a really good short area
[2016-05-18 09:59:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 42 @ 0.02940
[2016-05-18 10:00:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 2162 @ 0.02949
[2016-05-18 10:01:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 1000 @ 0.02957
[2016-05-18 10:04:10] billz : lol well it's not anymore
[2016-05-18 10:05:32] habibi : :D
[2016-05-18 10:05:33] mrp1nk : haha, yeah
[2016-05-18 10:05:44] mrp1nk : up is up
[2016-05-18 10:11:04] mrp1nk : i have 0.295x as s/r level, so it already broke. will see if breakout or fakout
[2016-05-18 10:11:25] arbitrage001 : kudo to you
[2016-05-18 10:11:34] arbitrage001 : need balls of steel to hold eth
[2016-05-18 10:11:45] arbitrage001 : mine is balls of cotton
[2016-05-18 10:11:57] Spofas : sounds fluffy
[2016-05-18 10:12:26] mrp1nk : thx, but i'm not holding any eth tbh
[2016-05-18 10:12:35] arbitrage001 : o
[2016-05-18 10:12:42] arbitrage001 : are you short?
[2016-05-18 10:12:45] mrp1nk : just trading it
[2016-05-18 10:12:52] mrp1nk : nope
[2016-05-18 10:13:04] mrp1nk : currently i'm waiting
[2016-05-18 10:13:10] arbitrage001 : rate is too high to short
[2016-05-18 10:13:23] mrp1nk : slightly tempted to yolo long
[2016-05-18 10:13:42] arbitrage001 : i am tempted to do interest rate arbitrage
[2016-05-18 10:14:16] arbitrage001 : very cheap to short on finex
[2016-05-18 10:14:30] arbitrage001 : and then long here
[2016-05-18 10:14:49] arbitrage001 : capture the lending rate difference
[2016-05-18 10:15:01] mrp1nk : sounds legit
[2016-05-18 10:19:31] rapidtrades : FU.CK
[2016-05-18 10:20:47] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: sup
[2016-05-18 10:20:58] arbitrage001 : are you short eth?
[2016-05-18 10:21:51] sq : arbitrage001: u mean eth?
[2016-05-18 10:22:05] arbitrage001 : sq: ?
[2016-05-18 10:22:12] sq : the i/r diff
[2016-05-18 10:22:15] sq : on ethbtc?
[2016-05-18 10:22:24] sq : or ?
[2016-05-18 10:22:34] arbitrage001 : doesnt matter eth or usd
[2016-05-18 10:22:40] arbitrage001 : or btc
[2016-05-18 10:22:53] arbitrage001 : you can convert and calculate cost basis
[2016-05-18 10:23:18] sq : cool
[2016-05-18 10:24:06] billz : c'mon someone do something on ETH
[2016-05-18 10:25:55] Mangalica : and by something it'd be best to sell 5k BTC worth on a market order imo
[2016-05-18 10:26:12] billz : I think we might be going down for a bit on ETH, massive buy wall put up on polo following big sell wall at lower price
[2016-05-18 10:26:44] arbitrage001 : billz: big walls are usually bluff
[2016-05-18 10:27:03] arbitrage001 : testing the market so to say
[2016-05-18 10:27:52] billz : past few sell walls were real though, buy wall hasn't been tested yet but we'll see
[2016-05-18 10:28:07] arbitrage001 : billz: hence the price went up
[2016-05-18 10:28:09] billz : Not sure if i wanna short this again though
[2016-05-18 10:28:17] arbitrage001 : cu there are no one calling the bluff
[2016-05-18 10:28:45] arbitrage001 : or was deeply penetrated
[2016-05-18 10:28:55] arbitrage001 : hence price went up
[2016-05-18 10:34:52] billz : yeah buy wall gone
[2016-05-18 10:35:17] billz : moved actually
[2016-05-18 10:35:24] billz : closer lol
[2016-05-18 10:36:13] keroub : How to reset the chart?
[2016-05-18 10:39:28] billz : WE"VE DONE IT
[2016-05-18 10:41:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 2 @ 0.03027 :punch: :whale:
[2016-05-18 10:41:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 50 @ 0.03023
[2016-05-18 10:41:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 40 @ 0.03028
[2016-05-18 10:41:23] billz : my god i might just set my sell order higher lol
[2016-05-18 10:43:09] billz : ETH smoking a special blend of hopium this morning
[2016-05-18 10:44:19] mrp1nk : wuhu
[2016-05-18 10:47:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 79 @ 0.03068
[2016-05-18 10:47:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 250 @ 0.03074
[2016-05-18 10:49:25] billz : going st8 to test 0.037 w no stops lol
[2016-05-18 11:02:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 911 @ 0.03116
[2016-05-18 11:02:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 167 @ 0.03110
[2016-05-18 11:02:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 1 @ 0.03109 :punch: :whale:
[2016-05-18 11:02:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 130 @ 0.03115
[2016-05-18 11:03:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 45 @ 0.03144
[2016-05-18 11:04:03] billz : 200k in sell orders left on polo lol
[2016-05-18 11:04:44] billz : no more eth available soon at this rate lol
[2016-05-18 11:05:19] germanjew : lol this is quite the run!
[2016-05-18 11:06:06] haxmb : rekt rekt reekt rekt
[2016-05-18 11:06:24] haxmb : BitMEX_Arthur: hey, any of you lot tere?
[2016-05-18 11:07:36] BitMEX_Arthur : haxmb: how can I help
[2016-05-18 11:08:16] haxmb : BitMEX_Arthur: i am having troubles with your API
[2016-05-18 11:08:19] haxmb : public and auth
[2016-05-18 11:08:34] haxmb : you guys seem to be randomly blocking my connections completely
[2016-05-18 11:10:00] BitMEX_Arthur : Are you throwing a lot of errors on your bot? We automatically ban ip's that throw too many errors in a short period of time. If you are testin. Something please use Testnet
[2016-05-18 11:11:27] haxmb : Nope not throwing anny erros
[2016-05-18 11:12:07] haxmb : Just now I also got blocked from accessing
[2016-05-18 11:12:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 10 @ 0.03036
[2016-05-18 11:12:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 50 @ 0.03019
[2016-05-18 11:12:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 60 @ 0.03052
[2016-05-18 11:12:55] BitMEX_Arthur : Can you submit a support request and we will take a look at your account
[2016-05-18 11:13:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 7 @ 0.03001
[2016-05-18 11:14:13] mrp1nk : now this is some nice action on ETHXBT, lol
[2016-05-18 11:15:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 75 @ 0.02975
[2016-05-18 11:15:23] ayy_lmao : dat polo volume
[2016-05-18 11:17:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 200 @ 0.03023
[2016-05-18 11:21:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 82 @ 0.02985
[2016-05-18 11:22:03] haxmb : BitMEX_Arthur: ok you just did it again
[2016-05-18 11:24:49] BitMEX_Wally : 198.199.xxx.xxx
[2016-05-18 11:25:22] BitMEX_Wally : REKT: @haxmb I'm on my mobile at the moment so can't check the details, is this your IP?
[2016-05-18 11:27:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 2 @ 0.02981 :punch: :whale:
[2016-05-18 11:27:53] haxmb : BitMEX_Wally: hmm nope dont think so
[2016-05-18 11:27:55] haxmb : let me check
[2016-05-18 11:33:21] haxmb : BitMEX_Wally: any other ip's?
[2016-05-18 11:44:56] haxmb : BitMEX_Wally: ? :o
[2016-05-18 11:45:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 20 @ 0.02980
[2016-05-18 11:47:16] BitMEX_Wally : You might be getting rate limited
[2016-05-18 11:49:13] BitMEX_Wally : I saw 9 API calls in one second
[2016-05-18 11:49:41] BitMEX_Wally : You can submit bulk orders in 1 call rather than making lots of Iittle calls
[2016-05-18 11:49:54] BitMEX_Wally : also you can cancel many orders with 1 call
[2016-05-18 11:50:58] yerb : BitMEX_Wally: could you add market close button on open positions?
[2016-05-18 11:51:08] haxmb : BitMEX_Wally: what IP was that burst aPI call?
[2016-05-18 11:51:18] BitMEX_Wally : Your IP
[2016-05-18 11:51:23] haxmb : my current?
[2016-05-18 11:51:23] haxmb : ok
[2016-05-18 11:51:31] haxmb : shit :p
[2016-05-18 11:52:13] BitMEX_Sam : haxmb: It is probably best if we take this to email
[2016-05-18 11:52:19] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: ok
[2016-05-18 11:52:32] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: where can i contact you? :)
[2016-05-18 11:52:36] haxmb : sam@bitmex.com?
[2016-05-18 11:52:38] BitMEX_Sam : support@bitmex.com
[2016-05-18 11:52:40] haxmb : ah ok
[2016-05-18 11:53:03] BitMEX_Sam : yerb: I agree, we have an open ticket to add that feature, we can prioritize it
[2016-05-18 11:54:28] yerb : BitMEX_Sam: i have an idea but i don't know how hard it would be, but it would be nice if there was an option to open several independent positions on the same contract
[2016-05-18 11:54:51] BitMEX_Sam : That's not something we will support - multiple positions are always netted into a single position.
[2016-05-18 11:54:55] habibi : just a select in positions which contract u wanna se
[2016-05-18 11:55:20] BitMEX_Sam : The effect is the same and much easier for most, it does make it a bit more difficult to track individual order PNL though
[2016-05-18 11:55:24] BitMEX_Sam : That is something we're looking to improve
[2016-05-18 11:55:52] yerb : BitMEX_Sam: maybe like a tick to lock a position and declare it as independent
[2016-05-18 11:57:02] yerb : BitMEX_Sam: and only one can be unticked or something if you want to add or take from it
[2016-05-18 12:00:06] yerb : BitMEX_Sam: and if all are locked, the order will open a new position
[2016-05-18 12:01:05] BitMEX_Sam : I'm not sure of the use case. Are you attempting to use liquidations as stops?
[2016-05-18 12:01:28] BitMEX_Sam : We'll be adding OCO orders very soon (I plan to work on it today) which should make take profit / stop patterns much simpler.
[2016-05-18 12:02:16] yerb : no, lets say i want to open a long term position and lock it, and play short term or daily positions independently
[2016-05-18 12:04:18] BitMEX_Sam : That is the same as reducing your position for short periods of time.
[2016-05-18 12:05:49] yerb : ok, what if i want to play both sides of the book and i want to open a long and a short and then close either of them dependant on which way the price moves
[2016-05-18 12:08:01] BitMEX_Sam : That is the same as having no position then opening one when the price moves, except you have paid more fees in your strategy
[2016-05-18 12:09:05] BitMEX_Sam : haxmb: Identified your issue, you have an email.
[2016-05-18 12:11:07] yerb : BitMEX_Sam: yeah, youre right, nevermind, sorry to waste ur time :)
[2016-05-18 12:11:28] BitMEX_Sam : No worries - I think this is a common misconception and I'm happy to help clear it up.
[2016-05-18 12:15:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 6 @ 0.02903
[2016-05-18 12:16:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 20 @ 0.02892
[2016-05-18 12:18:11] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: thanks for the email, greatly appreciated
[2016-05-18 12:18:24] haxmb : adjusted some settings over here, going to implement replace + bulk
[2016-05-18 12:18:28] haxmb : at some point
[2016-05-18 12:18:37] BitMEX_Sam : :+1: great. I highly recommend getting on the WS as soon as you can
[2016-05-18 12:18:44] haxmb : yeah would if i could
[2016-05-18 12:18:56] BitMEX_Sam : See https://github.com/BitMEX/websocketAdapters/tree/master/server as an alternative
[2016-05-18 12:19:02] haxmb : system not very quick to adjust though ;)
[2016-05-18 12:19:11] BitMEX_Sam : Basically we wrote a simple mirror that listens to the WS for you
[2016-05-18 12:19:18] BitMEX_Sam : You can pound it with 1000 req/s if you like
[2016-05-18 12:19:56] BitMEX_Sam : It's not a complete mirror - it doesn't understand `count`, `start`, `reverse`, `filter`, etc., but it should get you the data you need
[2016-05-18 12:20:31] BitMEX_Sam : As with all things, try it in Testnet first. :) You can avoid this problem happening again by being sure to back off on ratelimit errors (`429`)
[2016-05-18 12:20:46] BitMEX_Sam : Each request returns headers telling you your remaining limit and a timestamp when it will reset again.
[2016-05-18 12:21:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 781 @ 0.02884
[2016-05-18 12:50:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 60 @ 0.02788
[2016-05-18 13:06:14] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Sam: is the DAOETH contract active?
[2016-05-18 13:10:00] BitMEX_Sam : NukeLaloosh: Yes
[2016-05-18 13:26:14] rentchev : looks like ETH lending rates normalized
[2016-05-18 13:31:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 1244 @ 0.02951
[2016-05-18 13:42:37] jung1 : end of eth pump?
[2016-05-18 13:43:04] Mangalica : too early to call
[2016-05-18 13:43:05] BitMEX_Sam : Hard to say
[2016-05-18 13:43:11] BitMEX_Sam : :)
[2016-05-18 13:48:12] Mangalica : will Realised PNL be reset once in a while on perpetual contracts?
[2016-05-18 13:49:30] BitMEX_Sam : It's cumulative. Very soon you'll be able to hover it and see the realised PNL since the last rebalance
[2016-05-18 13:49:52] jung1 : gatecoin hacked
[2016-05-18 13:49:57] jung1 : 180k eth stolen
[2016-05-18 13:50:18] Mangalica : okay. I like the second part.
[2016-05-18 13:50:31] Mangalica : of what Sam wrote lol
[2016-05-18 13:51:19] Mangalica : isn't the gatecoin news old though? or is the 180k figure new?
[2016-05-18 13:52:47] BitMEX_Sam : That was a few days ago
[2016-05-18 13:56:53] sleger : is aurelien hedging the eth price with the perpetual swap here ?
[2016-05-18 13:57:31] sleger : maybe thats why eth jumped, he will have to buy 2m$ of eth on poloniex to reimburse the customers....
[2016-05-18 13:58:06] jung1 : nah
[2016-05-18 13:58:15] jung1 : people buy eth to buy dao
[2016-05-18 13:58:41] sleger : jung1: nah you know nothing
[2016-05-18 13:58:53] jung1 : you know nothing jon snow
[2016-05-18 13:59:09] sleger : go buy some more monero, factum and all other shitcoins you keep talking about on polo
[2016-05-18 13:59:59] jung1 : you said same when I talked about ath
[2016-05-18 14:00:28] jung1 : and actually you can trade eth, dao and factom here on bitmex
[2016-05-18 14:01:13] haxmb : jung1: not new
[2016-05-18 14:02:36] jung1 : yeah but sleger is anti-altcoin guy
[2016-05-18 14:02:58] haxmb : hahaha good luck with that sleger
[2016-05-18 14:03:12] haxmb : you short ETH then? 8)
[2016-05-18 14:05:10] sleger : i am not anti altcoin, but you keep promoting all the shitcoins, that's just ridiculous
[2016-05-18 14:05:37] jung1 : Im not promoting, just want to talk about this couse they are awesome
[2016-05-18 14:05:40] sleger : in addition to bringing breaking news story that are days old
[2016-05-18 14:05:53] jung1 : and new so I want to know what other people think about this
[2016-05-18 14:06:49] jung1 : thats internet dude
[2016-05-18 14:07:02] jung1 : everyone can say whatever want
[2016-05-18 14:07:18] mrp1nk : /umadbrahs
[2016-05-18 14:08:12] jung1 : Im annoying for you, you are annoying for me
[2016-05-18 14:08:18] jung1 : universe stay balanced
[2016-05-18 14:09:36] sleger : you must be chinese ?
[2016-05-18 14:10:45] okaycn : 管理员，有没有持仓量排名显示
[2016-05-18 14:10:56] okaycn : 显示前10名的持仓情况
[2016-05-18 14:11:17] jung1 : nah, just like sushi and asian girls
[2016-05-18 14:19:18] rapidtrades : mmm sushi
[2016-05-18 14:20:56] rapidtrades : if u want asian girls head over to malta during the winter
[2016-05-18 14:21:13] rapidtrades : they're all there working on their engrish
[2016-05-18 14:21:36] BitMEX_Jinming : okaycn: 目前我们没有发布持仓量的数据
[2016-05-18 14:22:03] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Jinming: are u an actual employee or Sam with google translator
[2016-05-18 14:22:24] BitMEX_Jinming : okaycn: 但是我们今后会考虑
[2016-05-18 14:22:38] jung1 : rapidtrades: thanks for the tip
[2016-05-18 14:22:42] okaycn : BitMEX_Jinming: 以后考虑发布吗，建议参考下okcoin发布前10名持仓数
[2016-05-18 14:22:43] jung1 : will check it
[2016-05-18 14:23:21] BitMEX_Jinming : rapidtrades: I am BitMEX employee:)
[2016-05-18 14:23:59] BitMEX_Jinming : okaycn: 会的，谢谢你的意见！
[2016-05-18 15:03:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 91 @ 0.02905
[2016-05-18 15:24:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 10 @ 0.02933
[2016-05-18 17:13:51] messiaen8844 : http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/the-dao/#markets
[2016-05-18 17:15:42] mrp1nk : unconfirmed imo, but anyway: https://m.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4jxkm0/plutusit_just_announced_that_eth_will_be_made/
[2016-05-18 18:31:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 5 @ 0.02863
[2016-05-18 18:38:34] kasman5 : finally some ETH selling, wonder how low this will go
[2016-05-18 18:41:13] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah we'll see. Been a wild ride so far
[2016-05-18 19:04:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 145 @ 0.02820
[2016-05-18 19:04:14] tscha : google mentioned asics for machine learning
[2016-05-18 19:06:04] mrp1nk : kasman5: should bounce here
[2016-05-18 19:07:54] kasman5 : short the bounce
[2016-05-18 21:44:23] Trebile : If I use the trailing stop market order, is it possible to adjust the trail amount once I have an open position?
[2016-05-18 21:50:10] BitMEX_Greg : Trebile: I think you may need to cancel and resubmit with the new trail price. I will need to double check this when Wally or Sam is in though.
[2016-05-18 21:53:01] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, you have to cancel and resubmit.
[2016-05-18 21:59:18] Trebile : Ok, it would be a nice feature if that trail amount was adjustable.
[2016-05-18 22:07:03] lockhedge : BitMEX_Sam: can you reveal how many independent market maker bots are quoting now continuously on both sides?
[2016-05-18 22:07:16] lockhedge : on XBTUSD
[2016-05-18 22:50:09] BitMEX_Sam : Trebile: Yeah - amendment should be coming soon to the UI. I believe Wally is working on amendments for trailing stops.
[2016-05-18 22:50:12] BitMEX_Sam : lockhedge: At this time I can't reveal that.
[2016-05-18 22:54:48] lockhedge : BitMEX_Sam: ok, no problem. competition seems to be higher than on XBT24H, which is at least for active traders a positive development ;)
[2016-05-18 22:55:32] BitMEX_Sam : I believe that's true too. We've had a lot of new interest.
[2016-05-18 23:21:03] ram : ETH MOON
[2016-05-18 23:21:37] sleger : ram : short ETH now ram : if u like money
[2016-05-18 23:21:52] sleger : that was 24 hours ago, since then price went higher. Nice call dummy @ram
[2016-05-18 23:22:10] ram : sleger: HEHE i closed at 50% profit dummy
[2016-05-18 23:22:30] sleger : sure you did
[2016-05-18 23:22:43] ram : sleger: why u mad, how many time u got liq
[2016-05-18 23:22:45] ram : lololo
[2016-05-18 23:22:52] sleger : none yet
[2016-05-18 23:23:02] mrp1nk : lel
[2016-05-18 23:23:14] ram : sleger: sure
[2016-05-18 23:23:15] ram : lol
[2016-05-18 23:24:36] mrp1nk : ram: he's probably not joking :-)
[2016-05-18 23:25:22] ram : mrp1nk: he is known for beeing liq
[2016-05-18 23:25:47] sleger : ram: ??
[2016-05-18 23:25:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 35 @ 0.02948
[2016-05-18 23:26:03] ram : REKT: that ram
[2016-05-18 23:28:40] sleger : I trade on cross margin and have a few hundred btc here, I dont think we ever saw a REKT that would be even remotely close to that... @ram
[2016-05-18 23:29:48] ram : sleger: which one
[2016-05-18 23:30:00] sleger : which one what ?
[2016-05-18 23:31:03] ram : sleger: i didnt understand what u said
[2016-05-18 23:31:14] sleger : somehow it's not that surprising
[2016-05-18 23:34:10] lockhedge : ram: you asked "how many time u got liq" and sleger answered "0 times"
[2016-05-18 23:37:18] ram : nevermind
[2016-05-18 23:37:26] ram : let's just trade and make money guys
[2016-05-18 23:37:43] lockhedge : ram: it's actually important to understand the difference between cross vs. isolated margin. read this guide https://www.bitmex.com/app/isolatedMargin
[2016-05-18 23:38:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 3 @ 0.02933 :punch: :whale:
[2016-05-18 23:41:28] lockhedge : it seems that a lot of ppl here use liquidations triggered by Isolated Margin as kind of a stop order. better use lower leverage and cross margin...
[2016-05-18 23:45:07] mrp1nk : how many ppl got fu cketh while shorting eth?
[2016-05-18 23:47:29] mrp1nk : (except ram)
[2016-05-18 23:58:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 50 @ 0.02988
[2016-05-19 00:16:05] billz : will this hype train ever end?
[2016-05-19 00:16:24] billz : unreal.
[2016-05-19 00:16:46] billz : mrp1nk: rekt bot tells all lol
[2016-05-19 00:29:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 80 @ 0.02999
[2016-05-19 00:29:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 20 @ 0.03028
[2016-05-19 01:53:39] viptrader : eth still going up
[2016-05-19 05:31:11] wahbillionaire : how to trade eth futures please help
[2016-05-19 05:31:30] wahbillionaire : cant find the contract
[2016-05-19 05:41:06] BitMEX_Arthur : wahbillionaire: Hi
[2016-05-19 05:41:13] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/ETHXBT
[2016-05-19 05:41:40] BitMEX_Arthur : Please make sure you deposit Bitcoin, to begin trading
[2016-05-19 05:52:49] vbmithr : Hi
[2016-05-19 05:53:36] BitMEX_Arthur : vbmithr: Hi
[2016-05-19 06:15:33] zanza : wow Silver price is getting killed
[2016-05-19 06:37:38] sam888 : going 500 soon?
[2016-05-19 07:56:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 3516 @ 0.03052
[2016-05-19 07:57:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 60 @ 0.03061
[2016-05-19 07:57:53] loba333 : is there a mod in here ?
[2016-05-19 08:00:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 37 @ 0.03086
[2016-05-19 08:08:11] BitMEX_Wally : loba333: Hello
[2016-05-19 08:08:23] loba333 : hi wally
[2016-05-19 08:08:32] loba333 : could you cancel my withdrawal please ?
[2016-05-19 08:09:39] BitMEX_Wally : Sure, just reply to the confirm email (it will go to support) and I'll cancel it
[2016-05-19 08:10:56] loba333 : thank you very much, i', standing by for the email
[2016-05-19 08:11:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 5 @ 0.03165
[2016-05-19 08:12:04] BitMEX_Arthur : Coinbase adding eTH
[2016-05-19 08:12:10] BitMEX_Arthur : that's the new rumour
[2016-05-19 08:12:47] BitMEX_Arthur : How long before OKC confirms they will add it, we all know it's coming
[2016-05-19 08:13:43] BitMEX_Wally : loba333: Thanks for the email, withdrawal has been canceled
[2016-05-19 08:14:10] loba333 : thanks !
[2016-05-19 08:15:07] mrp1nk : BitMEX_Arthur: it think in time for the dump
[2016-05-19 08:15:28] BitMEX_Arthur : Dump it , pump it, do it all on BitMEX with 33x
[2016-05-19 08:19:06] trestres : BitMEX_Arthur: can you pls update leaderboard? it is blocked by 4-5 days
[2016-05-19 08:21:23] PatioCrasher : Someone take the last of my long.. Then I can actually get some sleep and lay off the mEth for a few days
[2016-05-19 08:21:43] PatioCrasher : Shit is affecting my other work
[2016-05-19 08:21:45] PatioCrasher : haha
[2016-05-19 08:22:14] Mangalica : never knew there was a leaderboard
[2016-05-19 08:22:55] BitMEX_Wally : The leaderboard is updated based on wallet balances, which only get updated on Fridays when the contracts rebalance
[2016-05-19 08:23:01] Mangalica : why is one of the names yellow?
[2016-05-19 08:23:05] BitMEX_Wally : We are working to improve the calculations
[2016-05-19 08:23:19] BitMEX_Wally : Mangalica: Is it your own name?
[2016-05-19 08:24:11] trestres : BitMEX_Wally: so it will be on friday now? till past week was updated ir real time
[2016-05-19 08:24:12] Mangalica : It might be if it's an account lifetime thing
[2016-05-19 08:24:24] Mangalica : but it's an auto-generated name from the look of it
[2016-05-19 08:24:35] PatioCrasher : 180 contracts left.. Someone get me out of this So I can sleep please!
[2016-05-19 08:24:47] PatioCrasher : Buy 180 contracts at 3150
[2016-05-19 08:25:12] PatioCrasher : You know ya'll want too
[2016-05-19 08:25:25] BitMEX_Wally : When we had XBT24H then it settled daily and this is why the leaderboard updated more often
[2016-05-19 08:25:51] trestres : BitMEX_Wally: ok... thank you for info
[2016-05-19 08:26:01] BitMEX_Wally : The leaderboard names are anonymised until you claim it
[2016-05-19 08:26:07] BitMEX_Wally : They are lifetime-to-date
[2016-05-19 08:26:38] Mangalica : oh okay then, hey that's probably me
[2016-05-19 08:27:11] PatioCrasher : is the leaderboard only for most coins gained? I can't seam to change it and otehrs yesterday where talking about ROE and what not. Can I sort leaderboard differently somehow?
[2016-05-19 08:27:33] PatioCrasher : 80 contracts left till sleepy time. you guys the best!
[2016-05-19 08:27:46] BitMEX_Wally : PatioCrasher: It only updates once a week on a Friday at the moment
[2016-05-19 08:27:59] PatioCrasher : Ye that was not the question
[2016-05-19 08:28:33] BitMEX_Wally : The leader board contains notional and ROE
[2016-05-19 08:28:44] BitMEX_Wally : But the ROE calculation needs improving
[2016-05-19 08:28:53] PatioCrasher : How do I see the ROE board?
[2016-05-19 08:28:56] BitMEX_Wally : Scroll down
[2016-05-19 08:29:00] PatioCrasher : so 2 different boards?
[2016-05-19 08:29:08] PatioCrasher : Woo hoo i'm free.
[2016-05-19 08:29:24] PatioCrasher : turned 5BTC into 8 over the week.
[2016-05-19 08:29:31] PatioCrasher : thanks guys n gals for playing
[2016-05-19 08:32:13] trestres : BitMEX_Wally: imagine that I withdaw more than I deposited... (like it is in real) how to calculate the ROE %
[2016-05-19 08:32:38] BitMEX_Wally : The ROE calculation is currently dumb
[2016-05-19 08:32:55] BitMEX_Wally : it is `profit / (deposited - withdrawn)`
[2016-05-19 08:33:03] BitMEX_Wally : So if you withdraw Bitcoin then your ROE goes up....
[2016-05-19 08:33:30] PatioCrasher : rofl
[2016-05-19 08:33:56] PatioCrasher : So the leaderboard is bent?
[2016-05-19 08:34:31] trestres : imagine this deposit 10 w, withdraw 12, total profit 20.... what is ROE %
[2016-05-19 08:35:07] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah we'll fix it
[2016-05-19 08:35:11] BitMEX_Wally : We just threw up something quickly
[2016-05-19 08:35:23] trestres : LOL good
[2016-05-19 08:35:28] Mangalica : It's a good addition
[2016-05-19 08:36:18] PatioCrasher : Yeah its pretty sweet.
[2016-05-19 08:36:42] PatioCrasher : I feel so good to be out of eth.. Was at a -4.4 BTC unrealized when I went to bed
[2016-05-19 08:37:29] PatioCrasher : Then closed with another profit when I woke up. Thank baby jeesus in his little crib, looking down at Africa thinking shame this guy needs some bucks to feed his lion and giraffe
[2016-05-19 08:39:11] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: why not just use `((Wallet Balance + Withdrawn) / Deposited`)-1?
[2016-05-19 08:39:41] lockhedge : `(Wallet Balance + Withdrawn) / Deposited-1`
[2016-05-19 08:39:54] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah that's a good idea
[2016-05-19 08:40:48] BitMEX_Wally : We are working on doing a proper calculation by looking at the wallet balance each time profit is posted
[2016-05-19 08:43:07] lockhedge : even better, then it doesn't get diluted by new deposits
[2016-05-19 08:46:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 55 @ 0.03091
[2016-05-19 08:50:12] mrp1nk : looks the mETH train doesn't stop...
[2016-05-19 08:50:40] mrp1nk : like
[2016-05-19 08:52:42] PatioCrasher : Man.. a week on mETH takes tole on the brain bro
[2016-05-19 08:53:10] PatioCrasher : I'm out for atleast a day or two now while my melotonin mellows out
[2016-05-19 08:53:22] PatioCrasher : nerves shot.
[2016-05-19 08:55:49] PatioCrasher : But ye wall on polo looks fake. Probably a moonshot from here again
[2016-05-19 08:56:29] PatioCrasher : lol.. That mETH is just like "take one last order, it will help you sleep" And you know it won't and it will just fuck up your day
[2016-05-19 08:57:28] PatioCrasher : 'gently caress' instead of *fcuk* .. That's hilarious Bitmex!
[2016-05-19 09:11:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1 @ 452.07 :punch: :whale:
[2016-05-19 09:11:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1 @ 452.02 :punch: :whale:
[2016-05-19 09:11:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 800 @ 452.17
[2016-05-19 09:11:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 81 @ 451.70
[2016-05-19 09:11:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2220 @ 451.83
[2016-05-19 09:11:31] REKT : :btc: :soon: :toilet:
[2016-05-19 09:11:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5000 @ 451.70
[2016-05-19 09:11:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 202 @ 451.12
[2016-05-19 09:11:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 600 @ 451.08
[2016-05-19 09:12:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 529 @ 468.72
[2016-05-19 09:12:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 30 @ 450.65
[2016-05-19 09:12:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 450.41
[2016-05-19 09:12:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1900 @ 450.80
[2016-05-19 09:12:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4000 @ 449.33
[2016-05-19 09:12:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 400 @ 467.53
[2016-05-19 09:12:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6000 @ 449.97
[2016-05-19 09:12:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1 @ 449.06 :punch: :whale:
[2016-05-19 09:12:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6000 @ 449.25
[2016-05-19 09:12:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 870 @ 449.83
[2016-05-19 09:12:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 20000 @ 449.09 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-05-19 09:18:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 39900 @ 447.42 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-05-19 09:22:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 200 @ 523.73
[2016-05-19 09:22:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 28 @ 524.69
[2016-05-19 09:34:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 295 @ 0.03111
[2016-05-19 09:39:34] vbmithr : whow
[2016-05-19 09:44:40] arbitrage001 : what happen
[2016-05-19 09:44:57] arbitrage001 : why o why is btc dropping
[2016-05-19 09:45:14] arbitrage001 : thought halving will make price goes up
[2016-05-19 09:46:24] BitMEX_Wally : Maybe everyone is selling Bitcoin to buy Ether
[2016-05-19 09:48:08] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Wally: i see
[2016-05-19 09:48:35] arbitrage001 : how do people trade eth with such volatility
[2016-05-19 09:49:28] Mangalica : oh it's the best thing if you pick your entries carefully
[2016-05-19 09:49:39] BitMEX_Wally : Most traders love volatility
[2016-05-19 09:50:09] arbitrage001 : Mangalica: any tips on how to pick the entries?
[2016-05-19 09:51:40] Mangalica : well there are different strategies depending on time frames and market conditions
[2016-05-19 09:52:27] Mangalica : i personally like to scalp in the opposite direction of a big move betting on pullbacks/bounces
[2016-05-19 09:53:06] vbmithr : it's a bull market :) you buy and wait :)
[2016-05-19 09:54:00] vbmithr : and hope you did not buy at the end of the bull market…
[2016-05-19 09:54:16] Mangalica : on very small timeframes, watching 1m charts. Very tight mental stops on entries and quick profit taking.
[2016-05-19 09:55:18] Mangalica : yeah the best trades are when you manage to enter a position at the end of a consolidation period and then just sit back and watch as it goes your way, but you need to be there at the right time
[2016-05-19 09:55:56] vbmithr : for 3 days there has been a very definite trend
[2016-05-19 09:57:19] Mangalica : yes
[2016-05-19 09:59:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 500 @ 515.84
[2016-05-19 10:13:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 1000 @ 510.40