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[2016-04-28 11:23:36] dannybreal : -2000 Market -2000 445.81 8.9136 XBT
[2016-04-28 11:23:41] dannybreal : how is this logical? '
[2016-04-28 11:23:54] ayy_lmao : :bitmex:
[2016-04-28 11:24:01] lockhedge : don't forget about the taker fees
[2016-04-28 11:24:08] Rune : I dont know what any of that means
[2016-04-28 11:24:25] habibi : u do market orders, which in most cases won't give u profit that unrealised pln tab says
[2016-04-28 11:24:43] habibi : just read the help tab
[2016-04-28 11:24:48] habibi : ffs
[2016-04-28 11:25:28] lockhedge : and you can learn risk free at https://testnet.bitmex.com
[2016-04-28 11:25:32] ayy_lmao : ^^
[2016-04-28 11:26:30] dannybreal : thanks lockhedge , i think I understand the markets , and kinda know whent to buy sell , but it's made so hard here. ffs
[2016-04-28 11:29:39] dannybreal : not much help in help
[2016-04-28 11:30:10] BitMEX_Arthur : dannybreal: What exactly do you have questions about
[2016-04-28 11:31:00] dannybreal : FAQ* sry , now I see
[2016-04-28 12:05:38] dorothy490 : when X48 becomes X24 "entry price" in order book should be "rebalanced" and realized pnl should be closed to
[2016-04-28 12:08:53] Rune : why is the chart showing a spike to 449
[2016-04-28 12:11:06] lockhedge : somebody bought 70 @ 449.97 (12:00:26 UTC)
[2016-04-28 12:11:08] habibi : try go guess
[2016-04-28 12:11:39] sleger : why is the chart showing the price ?
[2016-04-28 12:16:50] donatan : bitmex: bug report. market order inherits chockbox flags from limit order.
[2016-04-28 12:17:44] BitMEX_Wally : donatan: Thanks, I just recreated. We will fix that
[2016-04-28 12:38:53] dorothy490 : BitMEX_Wally: X48 orders remaing open even after settlement and original orders from X48 being transfered to X24
[2016-04-28 12:39:00] dorothy490 : that wil lead to wrong orders
[2016-04-28 12:39:27] dorothy490 : for example I had take profit orders which should've been cancelled once X48 settlet to X24
[2016-04-28 12:39:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 200 @ 446.69
[2016-04-28 12:40:04] dorothy490 : if I wouldnt noticed that order instead of taking profit I could've opened a wrong position on X48
[2016-04-28 12:40:27] BitMEX_Wally : All orders in XBT48H are canceled when it rolls into XBT24H
[2016-04-28 12:41:03] dorothy490 : but my order didnt transferred
[2016-04-28 12:41:10] dorothy490 : had t ocancell it manualy
[2016-04-28 12:41:35] dorothy490 : XBT48H -900 452.34 0 -.-- 4.0711 XBT Limit Canceled 2016-04-28 15:06:49
[2016-04-28 12:42:25] BitMEX_Wally : That order was submitted after 12:00 UTC
[2016-04-28 12:42:52] BitMEX_Wally : That XBT48H order was submitted at 12:06 UTC
[2016-04-28 12:43:16] BitMEX_Wally : Had it been submitted before XBT48H became XBT24H at 12:00 UTC then it would have been automatically canceled
[2016-04-28 12:46:06] dorothy490 : settlement at 12:00 UTC?
[2016-04-28 12:46:24] dorothy490 : sorry im jsut not on utc
[2016-04-28 12:46:46] dorothy490 : so, settlement in 15:00 UTC
[2016-04-28 12:47:05] dorothy490 : you're saying that all orders fro m12 to 15 UTC would not be automatically cancelled?
[2016-04-28 12:48:27] BitMEX_Wally : Every day at 15:00 your time, all orders in XBT24H and all orders in XBT48H get canceled
[2016-04-28 12:48:53] BitMEX_Wally : You had 2 orders in XBT48H that were cancelled with the message `Canceled: Instrument expired`
[2016-04-28 12:49:25] BitMEX_Wally : Then at 15:00 your XBT48H position rolled to XBT24H.
[2016-04-28 12:49:46] BitMEX_Wally : At 15:06 you submitted that sell 900 XBT48H order, and then canceled it manually at 15:37
[2016-04-28 13:01:49] dorothy490 : ok then its my fault, sorry!
[2016-04-28 13:03:40] dorothy490 : suggestion: have average 5-10 min contract volume on each instrument
[2016-04-28 13:37:05] rapidtrades : nice...lots of new fishies here
[2016-04-28 13:37:15] rapidtrades : i mean soon to be pro-traders
[2016-04-28 13:52:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1 @ 446.16 :punch: :whale:
[2016-04-28 13:52:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 610 @ 446.56
[2016-04-28 14:23:22] ayy_lmao : rip anybody who uses isolated margin
[2016-04-28 14:28:51] rapidtrades : ayy_lmao: do u know about Joe Mama?
[2016-04-28 14:29:05] rapidtrades : he was a famous margin trader in Chicago
[2016-04-28 14:56:43] hedgehog0223 : my account is marked as 'market maker' because I asked for it, and my orders are still getting cancelled..
[2016-04-28 14:57:53] hedgehog0223 : are the any sites which are supporting the automated trading with BitMEX?
[2016-04-28 15:00:45] BitMEX_Wally : hedgehog0223: I've just checked the code and realised that the MarketMaker flag keeps open orders on XBT24H and XBT7D but not XBT48H
[2016-04-28 15:00:52] BitMEX_Wally : My apologies
[2016-04-28 15:01:36] hedgehog0223 : okay no problem
[2016-04-28 15:03:13] trestres : BitMEX_Wally: when was last settlement in A50?
[2016-04-28 15:04:41] blackwhite : what does the market maker flag do?
[2016-04-28 15:04:54] blackwhite : i thought everyone can marklet make
[2016-04-28 15:05:15] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah the flag only changes 1 thing these days
[2016-04-28 15:05:34] BitMEX_Wally : I means that orders stay open when a contract settles and resists
[2016-04-28 15:05:38] BitMEX_Wally : re-lists
[2016-04-28 15:06:16] BitMEX_Wally : trestres: A50J16 settled today
[2016-04-28 15:06:26] blackwhite : that's how people get fills at 12:00 utc! I was wondering how they do that
[2016-04-28 15:06:44] BitMEX_Wally : The print at 12:00 UTC is the settlement print usually
[2016-04-28 15:06:59] trestres : BitMEX_Wally: tnks
[2016-04-28 15:07:00] BitMEX_Wally : i.e. all positions are closed at the settlement price, and it is reported as a trade
[2016-04-28 15:07:06] blackwhite : in Recent Trades?
[2016-04-28 15:07:11] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2016-04-28 15:07:46] BitMEX_Wally : `446.05 95628 20:00:00`
[2016-04-28 15:07:53] BitMEX_Wally : This was the settlement for `XBT24H` earlier
[2016-04-28 15:07:59] sleger : 95k was nop ?
[2016-04-28 15:08:14] BitMEX_Wally : 95k was the open interest
[2016-04-28 15:08:16] blackwhite : weird. It's not trade at all. Trade is either 'B' or 'S' and settlement is both at the same time
[2016-04-28 15:09:28] BitMEX_Wally : Every trade is a buy and sell at the same time, we just report which side was the taker
[2016-04-28 15:09:45] blackwhite : yeah, but there is no taker in settlement, right?
[2016-04-28 15:10:14] BitMEX_Wally : We might add a flag to the trade table to mark these as settlement prints
[2016-04-28 15:10:34] BitMEX_Wally : Like auction uncrosses are reported on stock exchanges
[2016-04-28 15:53:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 200 @ 448.93
[2016-04-28 16:10:40] BitMEX_Wally : blackwhite: As a result of your feedback we are going to mark settlement trades as neither 'B' nor 'S' in the trade feed
[2016-04-28 16:22:04] habibi : https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex seems like much simpler index to follow, BitMEX_Wally could u suggest kaiko guys to show price updated in tab name?
[2016-04-28 16:23:40] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: That's a good suggestion, we'll pass it on.
[2016-04-28 16:24:22] habibi : thanks
[2016-04-28 16:27:49] j8 : dang, 10 blocks and no confirmation on my withdrawal with 0.0005 fee
[2016-04-28 16:29:24] BitMEX_Sam : Network's been bad this week.
[2016-04-28 16:29:27] sleger : a miner's got to eat
[2016-04-28 16:29:40] j8 : yeah looks real busy
[2016-04-28 16:29:56] sleger : are blocks full mostly ?
[2016-04-28 16:30:06] j8 : yep
[2016-04-28 16:30:07] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah.
[2016-04-28 16:30:14] BitMEX_Sam : Some nice stats on http://bitcointicker.co/networkstats/
[2016-04-28 16:30:25] sleger : that is good news for bitcoin
[2016-04-28 16:30:36] BitMEX_Sam : Kaiko's doing stats now too. https://www.kaiko.com/blockchain
[2016-04-28 16:31:20] BitMEX_Sam : Part of it is because there was a 50min block interval about an hour ago
[2016-04-28 16:31:41] rapidtrades : guys crash or pump into okc settlement? place ur bets!
[2016-04-28 16:36:16] habibi : basically tomorrow there will enormous profits released coz of that crazy ammount of contracts we used to have, so maybe dump after settle :)
[2016-04-28 16:40:11] rapidtrades : habibi: i hate u hajibi
[2016-04-28 16:48:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 950 @ 0.01664
[2016-04-28 17:08:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 7848 @ 446.69
[2016-04-28 17:29:16] krach : ChopSuey
[2016-04-28 17:29:25] krach : How long till settlement of 7D
[2016-04-28 17:56:16] BitMEX_Greg : krach: About 18 hours from now
[2016-04-28 18:48:06] rapidtrades : why is okc price still overshooting? currently says 445.50 when using current CNH rate its 444
[2016-04-28 18:49:00] rapidtrades : their ''rate'' is 6.47 vs market 6.48
[2016-04-28 18:49:49] BitMEX_Sam : Sounds like an arb opportunity.
[2016-04-28 18:50:20] rapidtrades : i'm not arbing in front of the PBOC
[2016-04-28 18:52:17] rapidtrades : difference is only 0.15%...too small for the complexity and risk involved imo
[2016-04-28 18:54:04] rapidtrades : why is china still so bearish? they've been doing during this entire rally
[2016-04-28 20:34:15] 1QaZxSw2 : bad fun shui
[2016-04-28 20:34:20] 1QaZxSw2 : *fung
[2016-04-28 20:41:23] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: with eth/btc be available after settlement
[2016-04-28 20:41:31] rapidtrades : will
[2016-04-28 20:41:48] BitMEX_Sam : I'm not sure I understand the question - are you asking if we're relisting ETH7D this week?
[2016-04-28 20:42:00] BitMEX_Sam : Or if we're launching ETHXBT tomorrow
[2016-04-28 20:42:27] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: yea 7d
[2016-04-28 20:42:34] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, 7D will relist as usual
[2016-04-28 20:42:42] rapidtrades : ok tnx
[2016-04-28 20:42:48] BitMEX_Sam : We're not quite done with the integration work on the P2P swap. We'll give some warning before it lists.
[2016-04-28 20:42:57] rapidtrades : ok
[2016-04-28 23:02:21] HugeRoo : Hey BitMex Sam, has something changed with the layout of the Positions for mobile clients in the last couple of days/weeks? Scrolling left and right is a pain and I always seen to unwanted my trigger off the margin change button.
[2016-04-28 23:21:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.01620 :punch: :whale:
[2016-04-28 23:21:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.01617
[2016-04-28 23:39:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.01596
[2016-04-29 00:01:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 20 @ 450.33
[2016-04-29 00:25:14] BitMEX_Sam : HugeRoo: You're right, it seems the whole cell is now triggering the dialog. I'll fix it, thanks for letting me know
[2016-04-29 00:54:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.00241
[2016-04-29 01:37:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 800 @ 447.75
[2016-04-29 01:37:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 5000 @ 447.77
[2016-04-29 01:38:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 100 @ 447.61
[2016-04-29 04:09:03] rapidtrades : yo dogs
[2016-04-29 04:20:01] rapidtrades : that hajibi guy may have been right with the settlement dump
[2016-04-29 05:53:29] Rune : bitfinex 449 why we so behind
[2016-04-29 06:25:56] dorothy490 : why cant we have custom margin, like x33, x3, etc?
[2016-04-29 06:26:17] dorothy490 : ah I guess we have, jsut have to manually calculated additional margin to the position..
[2016-04-29 06:59:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 8 @ 0.01718
[2016-04-29 07:10:39] rapidtrades : hey support? did the calc move to the new index yet
[2016-04-29 07:10:44] rapidtrades : for btc
[2016-04-29 07:14:00] BitMEX_Wally : It will move after settlement today
[2016-04-29 07:17:56] rapidtrades : ok cool...for the new ones right?
[2016-04-29 07:18:05] rapidtrades : what about june and sept
[2016-04-29 07:19:30] dannybreal : this 'honest price' sucks big time
[2016-04-29 07:20:00] dannybreal : this site sucks, bail
[2016-04-29 07:20:50] dannybreal : shorted @1724 300 contracts on 25x leverage, sold at 1688. and got measly 0.01 profit , suck my balls bitmex
[2016-04-29 07:22:22] rapidtrades : hey what was the calc period for okc again? 1h right
[2016-04-29 07:24:42] habibi : dannybreal: yea maths sucks, right :)?
[2016-04-29 07:25:58] rapidtrades : habibi: was it 1h
[2016-04-29 07:26:43] rapidtrades : i think its 30 mins cos its still changing fast
[2016-04-29 07:29:13] habibi : no idea, settlemetn in 1 hour?
[2016-04-29 07:29:30] habibi : in 30 minutes*?
[2016-04-29 07:29:49] dannybreal : called everything right and got fucked over , do i need a fucking bot to trade here?
[2016-04-29 07:31:13] habibi : what is wrong with u? u need to sit down and ccalm down
[2016-04-29 07:34:23] dannybreal : of course you're angry , when you get fucked over
[2016-04-29 07:34:43] dannybreal : shud have sticked with polo only
[2016-04-29 07:34:53] dannybreal : bye bye bitmex
[2016-04-29 07:35:25] dannybreal : apper´raing on keiser report is good marketing thou
[2016-04-29 07:39:13] BitMEX_Wally : dannybreal: If you sold 300 contracts of ETH7D at 0.01724 and bought at 0.01688 then you would have made 0.108 Bitcoin (minus fees)
[2016-04-29 07:39:16] micmix : dannybreal: I'm not sure what you expected, 300 ETH is only 0.5 btc
[2016-04-29 07:40:14] micmix : so you made 20%
[2016-04-29 07:41:21] micmix : sorry, my math sucks tonight :-)
[2016-04-29 07:41:49] micmix : 300 eth is 5 btc of course
[2016-04-29 07:46:09] BitMEX_Wally : Actually from looking at the logs you sold at 0.01713 and bought at 0.01709
[2016-04-29 07:48:02] rapidtrades : micmix: hey settlement calc for okc is how long?
[2016-04-29 07:59:29] rapidtrades : FINE DON'T TELL ME
[2016-04-29 08:03:48] j8 : rapidtrades: its one hour
[2016-04-29 08:11:34] rapidtrades : whatever
[2016-04-29 08:17:27] micmix : rapidtrades: sorry was AFK, it's one hour 7-8 UTC
[2016-04-29 08:25:18] rapidtrades : nvm i should write that down i ask every friday
[2016-04-29 10:16:00] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 20 @ 449.74
[2016-04-29 10:19:00] rapidtrades : smoke da shorts!
[2016-04-29 12:04:45] BitMEX_Wally : The `.XBT` index now references Kaiko
[2016-04-29 12:05:27] habibi : could u add rebalance info in position from rollover or just update entry price with rebalanced one?
[2016-04-29 12:05:36] dorothy490 : +1
[2016-04-29 12:05:58] dorothy490 : how can I add custom margin to m yactive order?
[2016-04-29 12:06:21] dorothy490 : I want to have custom margin like x30 however Im unable to add margin into my order
[2016-04-29 12:06:28] dorothy490 : it was possible few month earlier
[2016-04-29 12:06:44] dorothy490 : to add/remove margin from active order (even if you have no open positions on that instrument)
[2016-04-29 12:06:59] dorothy490 : yo uremoved it few months ago, then added, now removed again
[2016-04-29 12:11:54] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: You can add margin onto a position, not an order
[2016-04-29 12:12:01] BitMEX_Wally : If you want custom leverage then use the API
[2016-04-29 12:12:30] dorothy490 : it was possible before to adjust margin within active order even without open positions
[2016-04-29 12:12:44] dorothy490 : api is for geeks, im not geek
[2016-04-29 12:13:03] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-04-29 12:13:39] BitMEX_Wally : The problem was that you were actually adjusting the margin for the open order, it would add some to the position which may or may not get re-allocated by the time the order got filled
[2016-04-29 12:13:57] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Position/Position_updateLeverage
[2016-04-29 12:14:23] BitMEX_Wally : Put in `XBT24H` as `symbol` and `33` as `leverage` and then click `Try it out!`
[2016-04-29 12:15:36] habibi : Wally?
[2016-04-29 12:16:02] sleger : that's his name yes
[2016-04-29 12:16:20] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: XBT48H is rebalanced before rolling into XBT24H, you can see the rebalance price by clicking on the left-right arrows in the middle of the Your Position widget
[2016-04-29 12:17:38] BitMEX_Wally : You can also look at the `{"execType":"Rebalance"}` rows in the Trade History table
[2016-04-29 12:17:38] habibi : 450.22 ? it was taken from new provider already ?
[2016-04-29 12:17:57] habibi : didnt know that is clickable, thx
[2016-04-29 12:18:33] BitMEX_Wally : XBT48H was rebalanced at its mark price which was 450.22
[2016-04-29 12:18:46] BitMEX_Wally : which was the old index plus 1 day's worth of basis
[2016-04-29 12:19:48] habibi : ok, thanks for explanation
[2016-04-29 12:20:23] dorothy490 : what right/leftarrows?
[2016-04-29 12:20:43] dorothy490 : I had XBT48 as well and cant see 450.22 anywhere
[2016-04-29 12:21:46] dorothy490 : meh, I'm too dumb for API
[2016-04-29 12:22:46] BitMEX_Wally : I get that feeling
[2016-04-29 12:23:22] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: So you don't see a Rebalance entry in your Trade History with price 450.22?
[2016-04-29 12:23:33] dorothy490 : didnt went to trade history
[2016-04-29 12:23:39] dorothy490 : I thought its avalaible on the main terminal
[2016-04-29 12:23:59] BitMEX_Wally : You don't see the left-right arrow in the middle of the `Your Position: XBT24H` widget, that when clicked on will show Rebalance Price: 450.22?
[2016-04-29 12:24:32] BitMEX_Wally : You don't see the Rebalance entry in the Settlement History table for XBT48H with price 450.22? https://www.bitmex.com/app/settlementHistory
[2016-04-29 12:25:40] dorothy490 : thats I udnerstand, just main windows litle bit confusing for casual users, cause its shows entry price and mark price and its different for few bucks but profit already sits in "realised" hence unrealised is small
[2016-04-29 12:25:52] dorothy490 : and it confuses a little
[2016-04-29 12:26:21] dorothy490 : guys, when contract expires, all positions gettign closed without comission, right?
[2016-04-29 12:26:49] BitMEX_Wally : Except for the Settlement Fee: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2016-04-29 12:28:23] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: You were nearly correct in using the API, but you put `XBT24` as the symbol, try `XBT24H`
[2016-04-29 12:29:13] BitMEX_Wally : Then you will get your custom 33x leverage :)
[2016-04-29 12:31:59] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: kaiko should have adjusted the weights just now, but i can't see the new weights on the site. do you know if they're api accessible?
[2016-04-29 12:32:53] BitMEX_Wally : Yes they're available over their API
[2016-04-29 12:33:43] BitMEX_Wally : Connect to `wss://markets.kaiko.com:8080/v1 `
[2016-04-29 12:33:50] BitMEX_Wally : Send `{ "type": "subscribe", "exchanges": [{ "name": "bitmex", "channels": ["ticker"] }] }`
[2016-04-29 12:34:05] BitMEX_Wally : You'll get: `{"exchange":"bitmex","channel":"ticker","data":{"timestamp":1461933200,"index":{"last":"449.74","bid":"450.06","ask":"450.28"},"exchanges":[{"name":"bitfinex","weight":0.44883041676892627,"bid":"451.00","ask":"451.01","last":"450.03"},{"name":"bitstamp","weight":0.16594757713389663,"bid":"450.51","ask":"451.12","last":"450.84"},{"name":"okcoin","weight":0.3852220060971765,"bid":"448.78","ask":"449.06","last":"448.92"}]}}`
[2016-04-29 12:34:38] BitMEX_Wally : There's also a REST API: https://market.mashape.com/kaiko/kaiko-bitmex-price-index
[2016-04-29 12:35:00] mathewpk13 : BitMEX_Wally: cool bro
[2016-04-29 12:35:39] dorothy490 : will new order also be affected by this new margin
[2016-04-29 12:35:47] j8 : ok i see. in that case, it looks like they didn't update the weights at 12:01 utc @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-04-29 12:36:33] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: The selected leverage affects the position, existing orders, and new orders
[2016-04-29 12:36:43] BitMEX_Wally : j8: Ok, I'll investigate
[2016-04-29 12:42:14] rapidtrades : where are the eth bullz
[2016-04-29 12:45:47] mathewpk13 : rapidtrades: eth bulls dead and gone
[2016-04-29 12:48:50] habibi : they stucked in 17-36 area
[2016-04-29 13:02:46] rapidtrades : why is there no orderbooks for eth pairs on finex
[2016-04-29 13:09:54] rapidtrades : the margin funding also looks funky
[2016-04-29 13:31:37] rapidtrades : so selling 125 contracts is the same as shorting 125 coins on eth/btc pair?
[2016-04-29 13:32:56] rapidtrades : where are tthe shitcoin traders when u need em
[2016-04-29 13:43:47] Steve : hello
[2016-04-29 13:43:59] Steve : any reason why I am not able to login?
[2016-04-29 13:44:06] Steve : this is arbitrae001
[2016-04-29 13:44:15] Steve : aritrage001
[2016-04-29 13:44:54] rentchev : Hi BitMEX_Wally
[2016-04-29 13:45:59] rentchev : I have an idea for a small improvement. When switch between contracts the Quantity field should be either updated to reflect that contract or cleared up.
[2016-04-29 13:48:37] BitMEX_Sam : Steve: Let me check the logs - do you have 2FA enabled?
[2016-04-29 13:48:57] Steve : i am able to login from chrome browser
[2016-04-29 13:49:02] BitMEX_Sam : rentchev: That's a good idea - we could store your input for each contract separately so it's saved as you go back and forth.
[2016-04-29 13:49:10] Steve : this account i ust made, can loggin using firefox
[2016-04-29 13:49:46] rentchev : Thanks BitMEX_Sam, I got killed because of 5000 contract trade on ETH
[2016-04-29 13:50:05] rentchev : My fault, but it could have been 750 trade instead
[2016-04-29 13:52:08] Steve : BitMEX_Sam: have FA enabled
[2016-04-29 13:52:16] Steve : still gettin time out
[2016-04-29 13:52:27] BitMEX_Sam : Hang on a bit - let me take a look.
[2016-04-29 13:57:06] BitMEX_Sam : Steve: I'm seeing your logins - be sure your system clock on your 2FA device is set correctly. If there is skew, your codes will not work.
[2016-04-29 13:57:59] Guest49000 : the screen isnt loading to my account
[2016-04-29 13:58:07] Guest49000 : still stucked on login oage
[2016-04-29 13:58:14] Guest49000 : then the time out screen appears
[2016-04-29 13:58:41] BitMEX_Sam : I'm seeing a bug where the page is sometimes timing out when there's an auth error.
[2016-04-29 13:58:54] Guest49000 : 504 Gateway Time-out
[2016-04-29 13:59:34] arbitrage001 : NM, i am in
[2016-04-29 14:01:26] BitMEX_Sam : Great - I'm investigating what's causing the timeouts and will push a fix asap
[2016-04-29 14:01:43] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Sam: ok thank you
[2016-04-29 14:15:19] rapidtrades : this market is a f joke man...u cant get 1k executed without price running away from u
[2016-04-29 14:15:34] rapidtrades : at least goldman doesn't nickle and dime u for 1k...what a joke
[2016-04-29 14:16:15] rapidtrades : this is what the real free market looks like....bunch of nerds with shitty algos taking away liquidity
[2016-04-29 14:16:23] rapidtrades : welcome to the future bishes
[2016-04-29 14:16:53] ayy_lmao : l o l
[2016-04-29 14:17:31] rapidtrades : i even fomoed at the end and they only filled me on 15 eth....the rest magically was gone the exact second i market-ed
[2016-04-29 14:18:08] rapidtrades : all of these exchanges have special deals with market makers...who knows how are orders are routed
[2016-04-29 14:18:45] GingerDan : rapid. Have you listened to/ read the book 'Flash Boys'?
[2016-04-29 14:19:05] rapidtrades : GingerDan: i'm living it every day
[2016-04-29 14:19:13] sleger : "deals" come on, poor victims...
[2016-04-29 14:19:25] GingerDan : Hahah
[2016-04-29 14:24:32] rentchev : What's up with XBT7D?
[2016-04-29 14:24:41] rentchev : Ask 556.17
[2016-04-29 14:25:49] GingerDan : Someone accidently put a market order in I guess
[2016-04-29 14:26:05] GingerDan : look at the orderbook hahah
[2016-04-29 14:52:05] rentchev : there were no orders at that price, but the market makers went for coffee or something :-)
[2016-04-29 15:47:59] Bitcorn007 : wish they would get some longer term ETH contracts
[2016-04-29 17:04:54] GingerDan : hahah Just observed a bot that will change its order to be $0.01 better than mine to stay at the top of the OB
[2016-04-29 17:07:23] sleger : it's only been there for months
[2016-04-29 17:08:58] dorothy490 : can you expand interface a little
[2016-04-29 17:09:27] dorothy490 : that window with order - need few clear space lines after order panel
[2016-04-29 17:10:48] GingerDan : sorry sleger, I'm new to BitMex
[2016-04-29 17:15:58] BitMEX_Greg : If you want to execute, then submit an opposite order - wait for the bot to price infront of you and then take it. Get a cheaper price executed
[2016-04-29 17:16:55] BitMEX_Greg : Saw a few bots on other exchanges do that too, used to save myself % by doing that strategy
[2016-04-29 17:17:33] dorothy490 : "take it"? and pay the fees? how is that cheaper
[2016-04-29 17:17:46] sleger : % ? 1% of btc is 4.5$ now, that seems unlikely...
[2016-04-29 17:19:19] BitMEX_Greg : 1%?
[2016-04-29 17:19:38] BitMEX_Greg : not saying 1%, just saying some fraction of a %
[2016-04-29 17:19:48] sleger : " used to save myself % by doing"
[2016-04-29 17:20:20] BitMEX_Greg : let me edit to, used to save myself x% by doing that
[2016-04-29 17:20:49] sleger : most people would still understand that as x>1
[2016-04-29 17:21:14] sleger : just say "cents"
[2016-04-29 17:21:56] BitMEX_Greg : When spread was wide I used to save more than a few cents
[2016-04-29 17:25:21] GingerDan : Makes sense to me. Cheers Greg
[2016-04-29 17:26:05] BitMEX_Greg : But yeah just weigh up the need to execute now and thus paying taker vs if you can wait and save yourself the fee
[2016-04-29 17:35:21] rapidtrades : Greg when is dudah coming?
[2016-04-29 17:38:11] rapidtrades : is selling 125 coins on eth/btc the same size as executing 25 contracts here on same pair
[2016-04-29 17:38:29] rapidtrades : damit...meant to type 125 both
[2016-04-29 17:45:17] sleger : no its not the same, you trade futures here so there is an expiry
[2016-04-29 17:46:16] rapidtrades : size-wise
[2016-04-29 17:46:52] sleger : are you new as well ?
[2016-04-29 17:47:19] sleger : https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/ETH7D
[2016-04-29 17:48:59] rapidtrades : tnx if u don't know just say idk
[2016-04-29 17:50:14] sleger : i know, but if you cant figure out from the link then you should think about it more before trading it
[2016-04-29 17:50:21] sleger : it's for your own good ;)
[2016-04-29 17:51:08] rapidtrades : oh don't worry once it starts moving i'll know
[2016-04-29 17:53:47] Rune : incoming rekts
[2016-04-29 17:53:54] Rune : lol
[2016-04-29 17:54:23] rapidtrades : go bitcoin u lil bish
[2016-04-29 17:55:06] Rune : that was some breakout on huobi
[2016-04-29 17:55:18] rapidtrades : don't jinx it!
[2016-04-29 17:55:21] Rune : the heck
[2016-04-29 17:55:28] Rune : huobi
[2016-04-29 17:55:39] Rune : wow changes my text
[2016-04-29 17:55:58] rapidtrades : oh ffs....kids these days are easily amused
[2016-04-29 17:56:22] Rune : I am not amused
[2016-04-29 17:56:34] Rune : I dislike that it changes my text
[2016-04-29 17:57:06] rapidtrades : yeah u should talk to daddy
[2016-04-29 17:57:12] GingerDan : caused by 33 bitcoin market buy on stamp I think
[2016-04-29 17:57:33] rapidtrades : stamp's been acting funky lately
[2016-04-29 17:58:10] habibi : 33 market buy... dont move market
[2016-04-29 17:59:17] GingerDan : lol what?
[2016-04-29 18:00:04] habibi : u said this pump was caused by 33 btc market buy on stamp or i missunderstand u?
[2016-04-29 18:00:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 2230 @ 454.20
[2016-04-29 18:00:43] rapidtrades : hey the positions tab doesn't show size in btc anymore....can u bring it back
[2016-04-29 18:00:51] rapidtrades : nvm im blind
[2016-04-29 18:03:20] GingerDan : That's correct habibi, although looks like it was 90, not 33
[2016-04-29 18:03:30] GingerDan : http://puu.sh/oAfQz/bc18b55919.png
[2016-04-29 18:03:57] habibi : why people thinks stamp is leading ?
[2016-04-29 18:04:50] rapidtrades : dunno why ppl thinks tzat
[2016-04-29 18:05:11] GingerDan : That is my own data that I store, you can see the 90 BTC wipes out all the Asks up to 454
[2016-04-29 18:05:38] rapidtrades : everyone stores their own data around here...bunch of f nerds
[2016-04-29 18:05:56] habibi : what about finex buying 100's of around that time?
[2016-04-29 18:08:48] GingerDan : Because THAT is the bitfinex reaction.
[2016-04-29 18:09:54] habibi : logical
[2016-04-29 18:18:45] rapidtrades : how do u trade fellas
[2016-04-29 18:20:59] GingerDan : badly :p
[2016-04-29 18:21:18] rapidtrades : hehe
[2016-04-29 18:23:09] GingerDan : Uhm, I try to look for large support/resistance in the OB
[2016-04-29 18:23:30] GingerDan : (of BTC, not XBT)
[2016-04-29 18:24:34] rapidtrades : ob?
[2016-04-29 18:25:20] GingerDan : Orderbook, sorry
[2016-04-29 18:26:56] rapidtrades : ah
[2016-04-29 18:29:18] GingerDan : How about you, how do you trade?
[2016-04-29 18:32:06] rapidtrades : mostly following momentum
[2016-04-29 18:36:13] GingerDan : What kind of time scale do you trade on?
[2016-04-29 18:37:30] rapidtrades : usually daily and above in crypto
[2016-04-29 19:00:36] BitMEX_Greg : Hey guys just wondering, do you have any interest in an altcoin index at all?
[2016-04-29 19:08:36] habibi : yep, was trying to shill that idea while ago
[2016-04-29 19:09:31] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: sounds like a great idea...with 50/1 leverage hehe
[2016-04-29 19:09:38] habibi : shit&alt 100
[2016-04-29 19:10:49] rapidtrades : the Shalt100
[2016-04-29 19:14:08] daveberns1 : a market cap weighted index could be interesting
[2016-04-29 19:21:06] rapidtrades : interesting as in, sell it to 0?
[2016-04-29 19:25:32] daveberns1 : i guess i was thinking more of an All Coin index, market weighted, including BTC & ETH
[2016-04-29 19:25:56] daveberns1 : so basically 95% BTC and ETH
[2016-04-29 19:27:39] rapidtrades : no point btc would dominate
[2016-04-29 19:28:08] rapidtrades : there are problem with shorting a lot of these shitcoins...bad exchanges, high rates etc
[2016-04-29 19:28:40] rapidtrades : altcoin index would add value here ...bitcoin is fairly liquid
[2016-04-29 19:31:09] habibi : just 5-15 biggest cap altcoins from polo will be enough, without eth as it would be probally volume weighted, eth would have too much impact on index
[2016-04-29 19:32:34] rapidtrades : for now :)
[2016-04-29 19:33:23] rapidtrades : it wont have much of an impact soon keke
[2016-04-29 19:33:56] habibi : we have eth here itself for trading so no need imo, and in days like these eth would have 60-80% impact on index, nah :)
[2016-04-29 19:34:57] rapidtrades : its not much of an impact without eth
[2016-04-29 19:35:29] rapidtrades : what are u gonna call it? Shalt100 minus number1?
[2016-04-29 19:37:34] habibi : ah whatever :) just wanted to say my three words :)
[2016-04-29 19:50:56] BitMEX_Greg : habibi: yesh we would need to think of a smart way to weight it so that it's not dominated by ETH, if we were to decide to include ETH in it
[2016-04-29 19:51:33] habibi : BitMEX_Greg: most important thing is if ur mm will be there will good spread
[2016-04-29 19:53:03] BitMEX_Greg : True, we would need to work out with them what makes sense. What about an index excl btc and Eth? So instead of us listen several new coins which may not trade frequently, an index weighted in some fashion instead
[2016-04-29 19:55:48] habibi : with good spread i mean* yea i agree
[2016-04-29 19:59:51] BitMEX_Greg : Any particular coins you guys are interested in?
[2016-04-29 20:01:14] rapidtrades : have to include eth, otherwise its not an altcoin index
[2016-04-29 20:03:00] rapidtrades : or u could do it flat 10% of top 10 or 5% of top 20
[2016-04-29 20:03:07] rapidtrades : not market cap
[2016-04-29 20:06:47] BitMEX_Greg : Yeah have a cap on weights
[2016-04-29 20:09:01] rapidtrades : if we're talking about a tradeable index, it has to have clear rules imo...either market cap or equally weighted
[2016-04-29 20:16:30] GingerDan : I wouldn't trade it just FYI
[2016-04-29 20:24:04] BitMEX_Greg : GingerDan: Only interested in bitcoin?
[2016-04-29 20:26:49] sleger : sounds like another factom / china a50 flop
[2016-04-29 20:27:46] rapidtrades : i'd trade it
[2016-04-29 20:28:52] habibi : sleger: they trying many stuff to gather money, eth was good shot, factom/a50 likely not
[2016-04-29 20:34:46] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: what type of products would you like to see?
[2016-04-29 20:35:38] sleger : the same one as xbt but with cheaper fees and non-raping settlement fees
[2016-04-29 20:40:12] zanza : rofl sleger
[2016-04-29 20:49:17] GingerDan : BitMEX_Greg: personally, yes.
[2016-04-29 20:50:13] zanza : if the XBU was a 3 month expiry it would more useful
[2016-04-29 20:51:39] GingerDan : The only thing I would like is monthly futures because there's a big gap between weekly and quaterly
[2016-04-29 20:52:14] rentchev : monthly will be great for spreads
[2016-04-29 20:53:32] habibi : there will be no contracts beside one xbt in future :(
[2016-04-29 21:08:24] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 34 @ 0.01642
[2016-04-29 21:18:31] rapidtrades : hajibi knows the bitmex way
[2016-04-29 21:19:42] habibi : didn't they say that?
[2016-04-29 21:26:04] rapidtrades : they strongly implied it :)
[2016-04-29 21:33:52] podizzler3000 : he didnt succeed in his marriage
[2016-04-29 21:37:40] podizzler3000 : whoops wrong window lol
[2016-04-29 21:40:29] rapidtrades : keke
[2016-04-29 21:40:32] rapidtrades : LUL
[2016-04-30 00:10:28] prospecta : nigger test
[2016-04-30 00:25:56] jung1 : did he pass?
[2016-04-30 05:36:39] Rune : im so close to margin called
[2016-04-30 05:36:42] Rune : go up pls
[2016-04-30 05:36:48] Rune : someone save me
[2016-04-30 05:43:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 8150 @ 452.86
[2016-04-30 05:44:53] migz : Sad
[2016-04-30 05:59:23] ayy_lmao : damn
[2016-04-30 08:37:16] GingerDan : rip
[2016-04-30 12:00:57] rapidtrades : yo
[2016-04-30 12:01:05] 420WhaleIt : anyone know of good sources to get info about bitcoin price movement?
[2016-04-30 12:01:18] rapidtrades : yes the chart
[2016-04-30 12:02:14] 420WhaleIt : I mean like if somone writes a trash article in the newspaper about bitcoin the price somtimes go down
[2016-04-30 12:02:24] ayy_lmao : is there a fee for the daily rollover?
[2016-04-30 12:02:30] 420WhaleIt : Wich sources should we be checking regulary
[2016-04-30 12:02:34] rapidtrades : doesnt happen anymore @420WhaleIt
[2016-04-30 12:03:08] 420WhaleIt : ah ok :P
[2016-04-30 12:03:22] rapidtrades : coindesk.com or r/bitcoin
[2016-04-30 12:03:36] ctpact : 420WhaleIt: you can use feedly for news
[2016-04-30 12:05:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Anyone else's XBT24H order just close randomly? My order history shows when I opened it but not closing. It's not in my open positions and my wallet balance decreased. No Realised PNL listed
[2016-04-30 12:05:53] rapidtrades : settlement? @IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb
[2016-04-30 12:06:25] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Didn't get liquidated either. WTF?
[2016-04-30 12:06:52] rapidtrades : we just had settlement
[2016-04-30 12:07:00] ayy_lmao : do losses from xbt48h get realized during rollover?
[2016-04-30 12:07:47] migz : My orders closes 15minutes ago not on liquidating price. wtf
[2016-04-30 12:08:02] rapidtrades : dam...
[2016-04-30 12:08:04] ayy_lmao : not sure why wallet balance decresaed 0.04 after rollover, only position was on xbt48h
[2016-04-30 12:08:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: Oh duh, now I feel real dumb, thanks
[2016-04-30 12:15:23] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1364 @ 0.01817
[2016-04-30 12:23:32] Skyrik : if i confirmnow my withdrawl do i receive it today?
[2016-04-30 12:25:49] ayy_lmao : yes
[2016-04-30 12:26:00] Skyrik : thanks
[2016-04-30 12:26:05] ayy_lmao : as long as you do it within 35 minutes
[2016-04-30 12:26:19] ayy_lmao : they process once per day
[2016-04-30 13:42:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 220 @ 0.01843
[2016-04-30 13:42:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 95 @ 0.01842
[2016-04-30 15:16:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 249 @ 0.01955
[2016-04-30 15:16:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 10 @ 0.01957
[2016-04-30 15:23:56] rapidtrades : is eth on fire or what fellas?
[2016-04-30 15:25:25] sleger : rapidtrades: did you finally figure out that 1 contract = 1eth ?
[2016-04-30 15:26:51] rapidtrades : duh
[2016-04-30 15:28:35] rapidtrades : sleger: man options are barely liquid
[2016-04-30 15:29:16] rapidtrades : there's the major indices and stocks...maybe 1-2 currencies and commodities
[2016-04-30 15:29:23] rapidtrades : rest is shit
[2016-04-30 15:34:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 757 @ 0.02009
[2016-04-30 15:34:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 95 @ 0.02014
[2016-04-30 15:35:32] rapidtrades : out of eth now...made some money
[2016-04-30 15:37:49] rapidtrades : any news for this green dildo? or the usual shitcoin nonsense?
[2016-04-30 15:41:20] mjones : some DOA or something like that went live
[2016-04-30 15:41:38] ayy_lmao : https://daohub.org/
[2016-04-30 15:41:51] ayy_lmao : the slockit dao
[2016-04-30 15:42:31] rapidtrades : so nonsense then
[2016-04-30 15:42:58] mjones : just something to keep the fanboys buying
[2016-04-30 15:43:29] mjones : didnt realize withdraws only happen once a day.
[2016-04-30 15:43:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.01982
[2016-04-30 15:44:12] rapidtrades : been having a headache all day
[2016-04-30 15:49:29] mjones : tried getting in on the ETH bounce but tried buying too many contracts and missed it
[2016-04-30 15:51:17] rapidtrades : i was short :)
[2016-04-30 15:53:20] sleger : ETH7D 435 435.00 ETH 0.01701 0.02050 -.-- 2.0182 XBT (Cross) 1.5190 XBT (307.97%)
[2016-04-30 16:20:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.01998
[2016-04-30 16:26:03] atolkien : why still be pending
[2016-04-30 16:26:33] ayy_lmao : withdrawal?
[2016-04-30 16:34:35] atolkien : no just deposit
[2016-04-30 16:34:45] atolkien : deposit btc(xbt
[2016-04-30 17:57:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 9387 @ 454.64
[2016-04-30 17:57:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 30 @ 453.94
[2016-04-30 17:58:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 150 @ 449.89
[2016-04-30 18:00:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 249 @ 448.66
[2016-04-30 18:01:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 26 @ 447.39
[2016-04-30 18:01:52] REKT : :btc: :soon: :toilet:
[2016-04-30 18:01:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 10 @ 447.30
[2016-04-30 18:02:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 1500 @ 450.51
[2016-04-30 18:03:04] rapidtrades : did some idiot just woke up and saw eth and said hur durr.....lemme sell my coins to buy eth
[2016-04-30 18:10:47] mjones : how come we cant trade our profit when we close our position
[2016-04-30 18:11:07] sleger : because your profits might disappear ?
[2016-04-30 18:11:41] BitMEX_Sam : mjones: See https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation#contract-settlement-rebalance
[2016-04-30 18:17:50] mjones : i'm just used to the way okcoin futures works so i should read everything on this site
[2016-04-30 18:21:57] 1QaZxSw2 : what is woodchipper
[2016-04-30 18:26:48] mrp1nk : okcoin is okcoin
[2016-04-30 18:39:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 300 @ 0.02026
[2016-04-30 18:40:07] mjones : 0kc01n
[2016-04-30 18:40:28] mjones : i can close my position and then relong with my profit before settlement
[2016-04-30 18:41:03] rapidtrades : dam didn't know they held profit...guess i never trade that big to miss it
[2016-04-30 18:41:20] rapidtrades : is this true for all contracts?
[2016-04-30 18:41:29] rapidtrades : like sept is held until friday?
[2016-04-30 18:43:09] rapidtrades : i meant to say i didn't know u can't use profits to trade...
[2016-04-30 18:53:02] viptrader : epic ETH dump might come
[2016-04-30 18:54:06] mjones : right rapidtrades. i longed ETH and closed in some nice profit but cant touch the profit till friday
[2016-04-30 18:54:27] mjones : even to trade with before then
[2016-04-30 19:04:38] sleger : of course you cant use it
[2016-04-30 19:04:59] sleger : because it could still not exist
[2016-04-30 19:07:09] mjones : anyways. i'll put up with it since i can trade 25x eth here. looking for one more leg up soon
[2016-04-30 19:09:01] sleger : if you trade eth on 25x i guess we wont see you here for long
[2016-04-30 19:10:07] mjones : all about timing
[2016-04-30 19:10:47] sleger : should take you about 3 days to get REKT
[2016-04-30 19:17:52] mjones : i already got rekted trying 100x BTC so i'm trying my luck on 25x eth now
[2016-04-30 19:19:29] viptrader : dump ETH now
[2016-04-30 19:31:24] viptrader : panic dump incoming lol
[2016-04-30 19:32:42] mjones : i say one more leg up for ETH then the dump
[2016-04-30 19:34:17] viptrader : dont think so. volume dropped already
[2016-04-30 19:34:21] viptrader : hard
[2016-04-30 19:34:57] viptrader : there u go
[2016-04-30 19:34:58] viptrader : haha
[2016-04-30 19:39:10] rapidtrades : not rly haha
[2016-04-30 19:53:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 393 @ 449.11
[2016-04-30 20:07:45] mjones : oh wow. i can now trade and withdraw some of my profit now
[2016-04-30 20:08:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1246 @ 450.74
[2016-04-30 20:11:09] sleger : yes cause we are in a different session
[2016-04-30 20:11:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 19 @ 0.01989
[2016-04-30 20:13:55] jung1 : hello
[2016-04-30 20:14:17] jung1 : be prepared for shorting eth
[2016-04-30 20:14:25] jung1 : https://daohub.org/index.html thats the reason of pump imo
[2016-04-30 20:15:20] sleger : of course it is shitcoin boy