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[2016-04-22 14:04:00] thecrow4525 : Hello
[2016-04-22 14:04:10] rapidtrades : useless scum
[2016-04-22 14:04:36] rapidtrades : trade like idiots with other ppl's money...uselss shits
[2016-04-22 14:06:21] rapidtrades : if u had ur money on the line u wouldn't keep buying while ppl kept selling...cunts have unlimited $$$
[2016-04-22 14:06:31] rapidtrades : they're literally fecking us with our own monies
[2016-04-22 14:55:18] sleger : cry baby
[2016-04-22 14:59:30] rapidtrades : finally broke...took my profits...
[2016-04-22 15:00:48] rapidtrades : pizza time :)
[2016-04-22 15:24:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 120 @ 0.01720
[2016-04-22 15:57:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 43 @ 448.81
[2016-04-22 16:05:48] nip : can I get a quote now from the a50 market maker?
[2016-04-22 16:10:04] BitMEX_Greg : nip: Hey nip, let me check. What size are you looking at
[2016-04-22 16:10:34] nip : i want to sell 100 contracts
[2016-04-22 16:10:47] BitMEX_Greg : ok sec let me check
[2016-04-22 16:12:19] BitMEX_Greg : 9635, hes going to put the size on the board now
[2016-04-22 16:13:07] BitMEX_Greg : ok its up there if you want to take it
[2016-04-22 16:29:52] zanza : .16 baby lets see it
[2016-04-22 16:37:01] rapidtrades : zanza: ?
[2016-04-22 16:37:32] 1QaZxSw2 : hey is there a way to see what price my contracts were settled? i don't see anything in fils
[2016-04-22 16:37:50] rapidtrades : 1QaZxSw2: account>trade history
[2016-04-22 16:39:07] 1QaZxSw2 : oh, is that the one that says "closed positions"
[2016-04-22 16:40:22] rapidtrades : 1QaZxSw2: no pleb, do what i said and check type ''settlement''
[2016-04-22 16:41:21] 1QaZxSw2 : Ok, i see Transaction history under account thanks
[2016-04-22 16:41:40] rapidtrades : its trade history yes
[2016-04-22 16:47:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 5600 @ 450.21
[2016-04-22 19:13:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 110 @ 0.01723
[2016-04-22 19:29:19] Scottv53 : Hi
[2016-04-22 19:29:29] Scottv53 : W
[2016-04-22 19:29:37] BitMEX_Sam : Hey Scottv53
[2016-04-22 20:14:58] krach : test
[2016-04-22 20:16:05] BitMEX_Sam : krach: test
[2016-04-22 20:22:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 345 @ 0.01764
[2016-04-22 20:33:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 300 @ 0.01754
[2016-04-22 20:38:17] LeonardoDaVinci : where is the order box to put stops?
[2016-04-22 20:40:15] sleger : where the order box to put other types of orders are
[2016-04-22 20:40:22] sleger : *is not are
[2016-04-22 20:40:35] LeonardoDaVinci : is not here maybe..
[2016-04-22 20:40:43] LeonardoDaVinci : not are
[2016-04-22 20:40:51] sleger : where the order box to put other types of orders IS
[2016-04-22 20:41:22] LeonardoDaVinci : oh yes, my bad
[2016-04-22 20:41:55] LeonardoDaVinci : so..where is? :|
[2016-04-22 20:44:51] habibi : :D
[2016-04-22 20:45:06] jung1 : hello
[2016-04-22 20:56:49] BitMEX_Sam : Just click the dropdown.
[2016-04-22 20:57:12] BitMEX_Sam : By the way, Trailing Stops are in Testnet, bringing them over soon.
[2016-04-22 20:57:35] jung1 : perfect
[2016-04-22 20:58:49] BitMEX_Sam : Did some pretty wide-ranging reorgs of some of the underlying app, should help with cpu/memory usage, just need to run our usual testing.
[2016-04-22 21:00:08] jung1 : but think about https://www.bitgo.com/instant . Its free of charge under 1btc so could be good to get new users
[2016-04-22 21:02:09] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, I think it's a good service - just would take some time to integrate with our custom multisig solution
[2016-04-22 21:02:15] BitMEX_Sam : And we have a *lot* of new features on our todo list.
[2016-04-22 21:03:52] jung1 : for example?
[2016-04-22 21:04:50] BitMEX_Sam : The new swap product, OCO orders, internationalization, reworking some of the widgets & better mobile support
[2016-04-22 21:09:54] jung1 : on which countries you want to expand first?
[2016-04-22 21:15:48] BitMEX_Sam : Asia, primarily China
[2016-04-22 21:22:58] jung1 : awesome
[2016-04-22 21:23:03] jung1 : live long bitmex
[2016-04-22 21:25:22] BitMEX_Sam : That's the idea
[2016-04-22 21:26:19] BitMEX_Sam : The new internationalization features will give some nice benefits to other users as well - the inputs, dates, numbers, etc will fit your locale, so you'll get european-style dates & numbers in Poland
[2016-04-22 21:27:02] rapidtrades : great after i exit my arb everything normalizes....this is some f bullshit man
[2016-04-22 21:27:12] rapidtrades : this whole scene is so f shady
[2016-04-22 21:28:18] rapidtrades : finex traded inline with futures for weeks..literally...some f scam man
[2016-04-22 21:30:56] rapidtrades : and where is it now? $2-3 below where it should be
[2016-04-22 21:32:36] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: great
[2016-04-22 21:33:01] nip : rapidtrades: doesnt sound like arb :)
[2016-04-22 21:33:09] rapidtrades : finex the futures platform
[2016-04-22 21:33:13] nip : ah
[2016-04-22 21:33:23] nip : finex is way overpriced even compared to china
[2016-04-22 21:33:27] nip : usually china is overpriced
[2016-04-22 21:33:31] rapidtrades : nip: not anymore
[2016-04-22 21:33:46] nip : i guess its where longs go for leverage these days
[2016-04-22 21:34:09] nip : its a lot safer than woodchipper if you are ok with less leverage
[2016-04-22 21:34:33] rapidtrades : nip: how is it 'safer'
[2016-04-22 21:39:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 156 @ 0.01780
[2016-04-22 21:40:59] rapidtrades : eth up, btc down....what else is new
[2016-04-22 21:41:12] rapidtrades : oh that's right, arbs normalizing
[2016-04-22 21:43:11] nip : rapidtrades: seems less shady/less likely to lose your balance due to exchange default or theft. also no socialized losses
[2016-04-22 23:25:59] jung1 : cmon china
[2016-04-22 23:26:04] jung1 : go up
[2016-04-22 23:26:25] rapidtrades : jung1: not yet feg
[2016-04-22 23:26:54] nip : jung1: yeah wait for me to reopen my expired long first
[2016-04-22 23:26:55] jung1 : still looks promising
[2016-04-22 23:27:26] rapidtrades : jung1: haven't entered my full position yet
[2016-04-22 23:28:38] jung1 : whats your bets about price till halving?
[2016-04-22 23:29:41] nip : buy the rumor sell the news
[2016-04-22 23:31:53] rapidtrades : ^^
[2016-04-22 23:49:10] jung1 : so what was rumor about last pump?
[2016-04-22 23:49:12] jung1 : steam?
[2016-04-22 23:56:48] TheDeup : what happened to the tor site?
[2016-04-22 23:59:49] jung1 : tor is for criminals
[2016-04-23 00:33:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 2800 @ 0.01737
[2016-04-23 00:39:52] rapidtrades : we're $5 above china
[2016-04-23 00:40:32] rapidtrades : that can't be right?
[2016-04-23 00:44:26] jung1 : maybe bitcoin will came back to usa/eu
[2016-04-23 02:21:25] jung1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI95Dw3bmt4
[2016-04-23 02:21:34] jung1 : Everyone Should 'Get Some Bitcoins'
[2016-04-23 02:23:10] zanza : where can I buy Bitcoin?
[2016-04-23 02:24:22] jung1 : on aliexpress
[2016-04-23 02:24:25] jung1 : for $2
[2016-04-23 02:24:46] zanza : great thanks
[2016-04-23 02:27:18] jung1 : np
[2016-04-23 04:02:04] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 4000 @ 449.11
[2016-04-23 04:24:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1750 @ 446.28
[2016-04-23 04:36:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 1 @ 450.61 :punch: :whale:
[2016-04-23 07:18:57] Orlow : how do i place a OCA stop and limit on a long position, I am new here.
[2016-04-23 07:34:05] 1QaZxSw2 : hey, why is my session limited to 24 hrs
[2016-04-23 07:36:05] BitMEX_Arthur : Orlow: one cancels the other?
[2016-04-23 08:25:10] Orlow : BitMEX_Arthur: yes exactly. I have no clue.
[2016-04-23 08:27:26] Orlow : I have an xbt24h long as position. now i want to place a limit and stop according to my profit risk ration, when one kicks in then I need OCO etc.. Any instructions shall be highly valued.
[2016-04-23 08:28:28] BitMEX_Arthur : Oco orders are only available from the API there is no gui yet
[2016-04-23 08:29:18] Orlow : OK, thnxs. How do I get the API? What must I do? Is a GUI planned?
[2016-04-23 08:29:47] BitMEX_Arthur : yes they will be exposed in the future. Take a look at the API docs in the Help section
[2016-04-23 08:33:05] Orlow : which exact API do I need?
[2016-04-23 08:38:55] Orlow : can I use excel to execute the OCO?
[2016-04-23 08:39:51] BitMEX_Arthur : You will have to build a bridge between excel and our API. We don't have anything built for that yet.
[2016-04-23 08:41:36] Orlow : Sorry, I am a complete beginner in this environment and have basically zero software knowledge.
[2016-04-23 08:42:10] Orlow : I am just looking for a simple way to trade properly with bitmex.
[2016-04-23 08:43:13] Orlow : All my trades need the possibility to include a stop and profittaker as OCTO or OCA etc.
[2016-04-23 08:48:35] BitMEX_Arthur : You can place stop limit and stop orders through the gui
[2016-04-23 09:14:27] Orlow : Those would be 2 separate orders, the stop limit would incur another buy and the stop would not cancel it. I am a little confused. Have been trading for 20 years and would love to trade properly on this platform, but seems impossible.
[2016-04-23 09:22:46] Orlow : It would be easiest if stops could be grouped for example in the stop section, then when one kicks in the other can be cancelled. Surely that shouldn't be too difficult to integrate via coding?
[2016-04-23 10:18:32] dannybreal : the ydont want you to make too much profit :D
[2016-04-23 10:20:43] Orlow : well nobody can trade like this. when I open a position I must be able to integrate an attached order with stop and profit taker, anything else would be highly unprofessional.
[2016-04-23 10:20:44] micmix : Orlow: adavnced order types like One Cancels Other and One Triggers Other are coming soon, not sure about One Cancels All though
[2016-04-23 10:21:50] Orlow : OK sounds good, anybody know when this will happen?
[2016-04-23 10:22:04] micmix : you will be able to place a limit to take profit and a stop limit
[2016-04-23 10:22:28] micmix : couple weeks would be my guess
[2016-04-23 10:23:42] Orlow : micmix: a stop limit is actually used to go into a position during a momentum pull. for me it would be more important to first just be able to attach a stop and limit as group OCTO.
[2016-04-23 10:24:24] Orlow : FYI guys, I am sitting in Germany / Nuremberg, rainy here and got to trade.
[2016-04-23 10:25:10] micmix : yes, that's what I mean, limit to take profit with attached stop
[2016-04-23 10:25:24] micmix : one cancels the other
[2016-04-23 10:26:25] Orlow : I am just looking at the ATR, x3 is my range to position the stop. good job that I can set it. I am set up trade like crazy once this OCTO is set up. micmix where are you sitting?
[2016-04-23 10:26:56] Orlow : I am using a 20 ATR.
[2016-04-23 10:27:45] Orlow : And including a donchain 20. I would like to have a Darvas Indicator, but not must.
[2016-04-23 10:29:16] Orlow : the ATRx3 = 1% of my Bankroll.
[2016-04-23 10:38:03] rapidtrades : this market is such a joke man, ppl playing u for few 1000 in size
[2016-04-23 10:38:49] rapidtrades : i'll just start fomo entering everything, would save a ton of frustration
[2016-04-23 10:47:31] TheDeup : bull flag breaking up
[2016-04-23 10:47:41] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-04-23 10:47:50] TheDeup : :D
[2016-04-23 10:48:06] micmix : Orlow: I don't do any manual trading except on quarterly sometimes
[2016-04-23 10:53:58] rapidtrades : bot infested shithole market
[2016-04-23 10:57:53] Orlow : micmix: Pls instruct me. U using Quantopian?
[2016-04-23 11:03:03] Orlow : rapidtrades: shit infested bothole.
[2016-04-23 11:04:31] rapidtrades : eth happened....how did u get charged on that
[2016-04-23 11:04:33] rapidtrades : fufufufufufufufufuf
[2016-04-23 11:05:10] rapidtrades : HOW DID I GET CHARGED
[2016-04-23 11:05:32] rapidtrades : i placed it at 449.99 below the ask...bids were way lower
[2016-04-23 11:05:33] rapidtrades : cuntts
[2016-04-23 11:11:43] rapidtrades : there's literally no liquidity unless u want to buy $2 above
[2016-04-23 11:11:46] rapidtrades : what a joke
[2016-04-23 11:12:02] habibi : rapidtrades: bad days, huh?
[2016-04-23 11:12:21] rapidtrades : hope all of these scammy shithouses get shutdown soon
[2016-04-23 11:12:36] habibi : finex is not scam
[2016-04-23 11:13:00] rapidtrades : habibi: what do u know hajiji
[2016-04-23 11:13:27] habibi : come to ts, talk with finex owner if u have any problems
[2016-04-23 11:13:40] rapidtrades : the entire book is empty until 450 on okc...what a f joke
[2016-04-23 11:14:33] rapidtrades : i'm literally waiting to get filled for over 24 hrs now
[2016-04-23 11:14:33] j8 : okc quarterly is probably the most liquid market these days
[2016-04-23 11:14:39] rapidtrades : j8: shut it
[2016-04-23 11:14:47] j8 : just sayin..
[2016-04-23 11:14:55] habibi : yea open interest is really high there
[2016-04-23 11:15:46] rapidtrades : fuck futures....$5 premium for 6 days? yeah right u go pay that
[2016-04-23 11:16:53] j8 : you could pay $6 for 13 days
[2016-04-23 11:17:12] rapidtrades : i'd rather don't pay anything how about that
[2016-04-23 11:17:31] j8 : gotta get long somewhere
[2016-04-23 11:17:33] rapidtrades : at least with rollover ur not front loading ur fees
[2016-04-23 11:17:56] rapidtrades : if shit crashes u could get out without paying a $2 discount
[2016-04-23 11:19:14] rapidtrades : using futures during fomo is stupid
[2016-04-23 11:19:58] j8 : you want to be selling to the people that need the leverage
[2016-04-23 11:20:19] rapidtrades : exactly
[2016-04-23 11:24:26] rapidtrades : still don't get why we're leading china
[2016-04-23 11:24:33] rapidtrades : prolly smth eth related
[2016-04-23 11:25:33] rapidtrades : btw if u look at the time of this pump, it happened right after the ETH selloff
[2016-04-23 11:28:23] j8 : probably the big premium on okc is expecting china to take off
[2016-04-23 11:28:59] rapidtrades : it's just idiots being idiots imo
[2016-04-23 11:29:26] rapidtrades : those futures are only good for shortterm trading
[2016-04-23 11:29:45] rapidtrades : usually those ppl are gamblers, most of them
[2016-04-23 11:30:38] j8 : aren't we all
[2016-04-23 11:31:34] rapidtrades : j8: no we're not
[2016-04-23 12:06:05] Orlow : My position was just closed and not filled. WTF?
[2016-04-23 12:06:20] Orlow : Come on guys. Is this serios?
[2016-04-23 12:07:30] Orlow : Did it just expire?
[2016-04-23 12:07:39] Orlow : at 14:0?
[2016-04-23 12:07:46] Orlow : at 14:00h?
[2016-04-23 12:08:15] Orlow : so it just gets cancelled and not filled? surely it should roll?
[2016-04-23 12:08:15] nip : closed but not filled?
[2016-04-23 12:08:40] nip : you have to open a new position manually every day
[2016-04-23 12:09:00] nip : or use a longer dated contract
[2016-04-23 12:09:11] Orlow : Yes, the position was closed by the system, deleted from positions and not filled. No trace in the order history.
[2016-04-23 12:09:13] cengel : Does anyone ever have an issue of orderbook ask/bid orders by price getting jumbled?
[2016-04-23 12:10:58] cengel : https://i.imgur.com/6ewllwB.png see the red numbers all mixed up. Only recently happened
[2016-04-23 12:11:03] Orlow : yes but what happens to open positions at expiry?
[2016-04-23 12:11:38] cengel : @Orlow what contract?
[2016-04-23 12:12:12] Orlow : you cant just desintegrate them, they need to be rolled or closed and filled. never seen this type of shit in 20 years of trading.
[2016-04-23 12:12:18] j8 : Orlow: they're settled at a 30 minute TWAP of the index price
[2016-04-23 12:12:35] j8 : i'm not sure why you say they're not filled
[2016-04-23 12:12:41] Orlow : XBT24H
[2016-04-23 12:12:53] Orlow : Not in filled in my order history.
[2016-04-23 12:13:04] Orlow : or settled.
[2016-04-23 12:13:10] j8 : Orlow: there is a settlement transaction if you go to Account -> Trade History
[2016-04-23 12:13:40] Orlow : OK got it thnxs
[2016-04-23 12:14:05] Orlow : I am new here srry for cockstands
[2016-04-23 12:14:27] j8 : no problem
[2016-04-23 12:15:06] cengel : @j8 you know anything about this orderbook price jumbling?
[2016-04-23 12:16:13] j8 : cengel: thats not good, i've seen something like that a couple times but not in a while. should pass that on to sam
[2016-04-23 12:16:47] cengel : only started happening days ago i thought it would pass, but thanks
[2016-04-23 12:19:50] rapidtrades : china's still not following....looks like a fake pump more and more
[2016-04-23 12:20:29] rapidtrades : it's literally finex fomoing at this point
[2016-04-23 12:44:56] roymalmberg : which one trades the most, daily or daily roll?
[2016-04-23 12:45:04] roymalmberg : does daily roll , rollover auto?
[2016-04-23 12:45:46] roymalmberg : nvm :)
[2016-04-23 15:55:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 10 @ 0.01815
[2016-04-23 15:57:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 627 @ 0.01829
[2016-04-23 15:59:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1 @ 0.01833 :punch: :whale:
[2016-04-23 17:55:14] rapidtrades : i pretty much fomoed to fill my entire position....guess we can go down now :(
[2016-04-23 17:58:50] urgent : Hey folks
[2016-04-23 17:58:55] habibi : that's the spirit :)
[2016-04-23 17:59:11] BitMEX_Sam : Hey everyone.
[2016-04-23 18:01:51] rapidtrades : yeah i really botched my futures rollover...guess i was mad i didn't get to close the arb with a profit
[2016-04-23 18:01:54] rapidtrades : f cuntss
[2016-04-23 18:14:14] urgent : So my boss pays me in bitcoin, but has difficulty to get bitcoin with his paypal account...
[2016-04-23 18:17:25] hedgehog0223 : lol
[2016-04-23 18:20:06] habibi : 1. come to bitmex 2.write a very bad story 3. find a guy who will send his bitcoins after i will send him paypall transfer from stolen account or just charge back later 4.profit
[2016-04-23 18:21:09] habibi : 5. no point 3, twice 2
[2016-04-23 18:21:30] urgent : point less
[2016-04-23 18:22:58] habibi : try harder
[2016-04-23 18:23:02] hedgehog0223 : buying btc with paypal is quite easy with VirWox. I used to use it a lot
[2016-04-23 18:23:06] urgent : the irony ... but I need to propose him some solution ...
[2016-04-23 18:23:29] urgent : its about 7 percent I think
[2016-04-23 18:23:58] hedgehog0223 : yeah sometimes 10 :S not sure but high
[2016-04-23 18:24:05] urgent : at VirWox
[2016-04-23 18:24:20] hedgehog0223 : yes
[2016-04-23 18:24:35] hedgehog0223 : but it is definitely a solution
[2016-04-23 18:24:40] urgent : true
[2016-04-23 18:25:23] j8 : maybe he could pay you with paypal and you buy bitcoin
[2016-04-23 18:25:30] urgent : but it would as well be "a solution" him just deciding not to pay
[2016-04-23 18:25:45] urgent : I dont use paypal
[2016-04-23 18:26:01] urgent : I just closed my account some months ago
[2016-04-23 18:26:14] j8 : probably a good call
[2016-04-23 18:26:16] hedgehog0223 : what kind of job do u have if I may ask in which you get paid in btc?
[2016-04-23 18:27:18] habibi : scammer job
[2016-04-23 18:27:22] urgent : media. but its kinda otc..
[2016-04-23 18:27:26] hedgehog0223 : xd
[2016-04-23 18:27:42] hedgehog0223 : good!
[2016-04-23 18:27:42] rapidtrades : otc media!
[2016-04-23 18:27:51] habibi : but he is new to this business, didnt even read Scamming People for dummies
[2016-04-23 18:28:40] hedgehog0223 : do you guys only trade crypto or forex and stuff as well?
[2016-04-23 18:28:44] rapidtrades : if u want btc, get paid by bank then buy
[2016-04-23 18:29:03] rapidtrades : if u don't want to declare ur income then i guess u could pay virvox 7%
[2016-04-23 18:29:28] urgent : probably thats how it is in these times.
[2016-04-23 18:29:46] rapidtrades : #i haven't used them but habiji says they're cool
[2016-04-23 18:29:56] rapidtrades : so if smth goes wrong come back here and hodl him liable
[2016-04-23 18:30:59] urgent : rapidtrades: exactly : )
[2016-04-23 18:31:10] urgent : hedgehog0223: forex in the past... : )
[2016-04-23 18:31:24] hedgehog0223 : I never used it. only crypto
[2016-04-23 18:31:54] rapidtrades : yea forex here too....will prolly branch out more though
[2016-04-23 18:32:42] hedgehog0223 : I like that I can trade and convert my profits to CASH withouut any bank :) ..
[2016-04-23 18:33:02] habibi : yea, btc is good for scammers in that meaning
[2016-04-23 18:33:04] rapidtrades : hedgehog0223: u sell on localbitcoins or what
[2016-04-23 18:33:16] hedgehog0223 : only in person
[2016-04-23 18:33:30] hedgehog0223 : and only buy in person
[2016-04-23 18:33:48] rapidtrades : that's cool...until u get fake bills or u meet some druggie
[2016-04-23 18:33:50] habibi : hedgehog0223: thats some magical way of buying, urgent boss dont know about it :)
[2016-04-23 18:34:31] hedgehog0223 : I don't care..I don't really like banks
[2016-04-23 18:34:49] rapidtrades : noone likes banks they're shit
[2016-04-23 18:35:28] hedgehog0223 : but I'm not a scammer though, I pay taxes
[2016-04-23 18:37:19] habibi : hedgehog0223: sorry, i was saying about urgent, no offence
[2016-04-23 18:37:30] hedgehog0223 : I just wanna leave banks out completely from my 'trading process'
[2016-04-23 18:38:07] rapidtrades : well if u want to trade more than crypto that's impossible right now
[2016-04-23 18:38:28] hedgehog0223 : no just crypto. nothing else
[2016-04-23 18:38:31] Orlow : well he's right banks screw
[2016-04-23 18:39:00] hedgehog0223 : haha...yeah
[2016-04-23 18:39:29] urgent : hedgehog0223: good decisions
[2016-04-23 18:40:43] urgent : habibi: Yeah maybe he doesnt know, and I dont wanna send him on the streets to buy local..
[2016-04-23 18:40:55] hedgehog0223 : for example dollar has its value by its liquidity..and nothing ese i think. but why cant u trade at weekend??...
[2016-04-23 18:41:42] rapidtrades : hedgehog0223: cos the working week is mandated by law
[2016-04-23 18:42:09] hedgehog0223 : the banks are closed..yeah
[2016-04-23 18:43:16] hedgehog0223 : it is okay. but u know it is very annoying when u try to trade forex after btc
[2016-04-23 18:43:18] urgent : the banks will soon close - forevaa...
[2016-04-23 18:43:34] rapidtrades : well maybe bitmex will allow us to trade forex on the weekend soon :)
[2016-04-23 18:44:08] urgent : Then BitMEX will be my only bank
[2016-04-23 18:44:22] hedgehog0223 : weekends, 2 days, in 1 year 104 days
[2016-04-23 18:49:23] rapidtrades : guy knows maths
[2016-04-23 18:50:29] hedgehog0223 : just sayin that u cant trade for 104 days in forex. isnt it a 'loss'
[2016-04-23 18:51:00] urgent : a loss for the traders only.
[2016-04-23 18:51:48] Orlow : how can I automate trading with Bitmex?
[2016-04-23 18:52:02] Orlow : MT4 or Quantopia? etc.?
[2016-04-23 18:52:32] rapidtrades : can't use either afaik
[2016-04-23 18:53:59] Orlow : we need exact clean execution on reversions to the mean, fully automated. please help.
[2016-04-23 18:54:35] rapidtrades : who's we?
[2016-04-23 18:54:46] Orlow : all of us here.
[2016-04-23 18:54:58] mrp1nk : lol
[2016-04-23 18:55:35] Orlow : ;) if we're not here to make money then we can turn off our machines.
[2016-04-23 18:55:51] hedgehog0223 : xd
[2016-04-23 18:57:35] Orlow : anyone see the latest max keiser report? they say 500million coming over this platform daily. right?
[2016-04-23 18:58:09] j8 : lol, no
[2016-04-23 18:58:25] habibi : Old good keiser :D
[2016-04-23 18:58:50] j8 : i think they said 5 million
[2016-04-23 18:58:56] Orlow : https://www.rt.com/shows/keiser-report/340449-episode-max-keiser-904/ see second half
[2016-04-23 19:03:05] rapidtrades : u know how finex doesn't realize ur profits unless u zero out ur position completely first?
[2016-04-23 19:03:22] rapidtrades : well they sure realize the losses even if u don't zero out...kunts
[2016-04-23 19:03:41] rapidtrades : prolly doing it to sqeeze more margin fees
[2016-04-23 19:08:11] hedgehog0223 : hey I am really new to this website. Is it good? any suggestions?
[2016-04-23 19:23:13] nip : it is good
[2016-04-23 19:23:21] nip : make sure you have plenty of margin
[2016-04-23 19:23:31] nip : and dont risk any more or less than you are willing to lose
[2016-04-23 19:34:00] Samirum : hedgehog0223: be wise
[2016-04-23 19:34:31] Samirum : hedgehog0223: Don't follow trolls advice on a trade
[2016-04-23 19:35:53] hedgehog0223 : thanks
[2016-04-23 19:45:30] rapidtrades : BUY BUY BUY
[2016-04-23 19:46:25] mrp1nk : rapidtrades: rofl
[2016-04-23 19:51:02] hedgehog0223 : ,,
[2016-04-23 19:54:00] nip : hedgehog0223: dont take sledger the hedgers advice
[2016-04-23 19:54:17] nip : hes never actually long or short
[2016-04-23 19:54:22] nip : no solid evidence he even trades
[2016-04-23 19:55:34] hedgehog0223 : xd okay
[2016-04-23 19:56:34] nip : are you here to trade bitcoin futures or are you interested in the other things too?
[2016-04-23 19:59:43] hedgehog0223 : what do u mean by other things?
[2016-04-23 20:00:24] nip : ethereum, china a50, factums
[2016-04-23 20:05:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 129 @ 0.01890
[2016-04-23 20:10:21] mrp1nk : cheap 7d contracts guise
[2016-04-23 20:15:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 400 @ 449.19
[2016-04-23 20:19:32] sleger : nip: moron
[2016-04-23 20:19:51] sleger : I had half of the NOP of most contracts
[2016-04-23 20:23:20] sleger : you should go back to where you belong, polo trollbox
[2016-04-23 20:25:53] nip : sleger: sorry i guess it was a bad joke
[2016-04-23 20:26:45] sleger : attacking people who arent even part of a discussion with lies ? you bet it is. Plus, I never give trading advice without being asked for it first.
[2016-04-23 20:28:23] nip : i meant it as a joke about delta neutral implying you shouldnt give advice on directional positions
[2016-04-23 20:31:41] nip : my apologies again i truly didnt mean for you to take that seriously
[2016-04-23 20:31:54] sleger : ok np
[2016-04-23 20:32:08] nip : :) thanks
[2016-04-23 20:44:05] giovannicontini : You guys long or short?
[2016-04-23 20:45:09] rapidtrades : buy buy buy
[2016-04-23 20:45:58] giovannicontini : rapidtrades: I did too, was just curious
[2016-04-23 20:46:14] rapidtrades : well, shit
[2016-04-23 20:52:38] mrp1nk : poor bears
[2016-04-23 21:05:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1000 @ 0.01915
[2016-04-23 21:06:21] hedgehog0223 : Hey guys, do I need to activate 2FA? I have a strong password and an adroid phone I don't really trust
[2016-04-23 21:07:10] mrp1nk : in any case: yes
[2016-04-23 21:07:15] BitMEX_Sam : I highly recommend using 2FA on any service you have real money on.
[2016-04-23 21:07:40] hedgehog0223 : but what if I lose my phone or something :S ?
[2016-04-23 21:07:48] BitMEX_Sam : Save a copy of the QR code / key
[2016-04-23 21:07:58] BitMEX_Sam : Or use https://www.authy.com/
[2016-04-23 21:08:19] hedgehog0223 : thank you for the advice
[2016-04-23 21:08:34] sleger : you can only have bitcoin here so its not "real money"
[2016-04-23 21:08:52] hedgehog0223 : : )
[2016-04-23 21:09:01] hitme1 : lol
[2016-04-23 21:09:21] hedgehog0223 : it is more than 'real money' xd
[2016-04-23 21:10:11] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: can you enable 2fa for withdrawals only ?
[2016-04-23 21:10:18] sleger : ie i dont want to have to use it to login
[2016-04-23 21:10:26] habibi : ^ agree, that would be good option
[2016-04-23 21:10:40] rapidtrades : keep it as option only tho
[2016-04-23 21:10:43] hedgehog0223 : Yes I am familiar with 2FA just my phone is not so reliable
[2016-04-23 21:10:45] BitMEX_Sam : At this time we don't have that capability - I would suggest using it for login
[2016-04-23 21:10:46] rapidtrades : opt in
[2016-04-23 21:10:51] BitMEX_Sam : There is an Authy desktop app
[2016-04-23 21:11:00] hedgehog0223 : my laptop even worse
[2016-04-23 21:11:01] hedgehog0223 : xd
[2016-04-23 21:11:13] BitMEX_Sam : Also, if you're trading on many sites, I'd highly recommend buying a Yubikey
[2016-04-23 21:11:17] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: ok then is there a way to keep login on for longer and not auto close after 5 min with the tab closed ?
[2016-04-23 21:11:23] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: Yes
[2016-04-23 21:11:25] sleger : cause i cant see how i could use bitmex from my phone
[2016-04-23 21:11:28] BitMEX_Sam : I've just implemented that. It's in Testnet
[2016-04-23 21:11:33] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: exaclt that 5 mins rule is dtupid
[2016-04-23 21:11:44] rapidtrades : i have to keep this resourse hog open all the time
[2016-04-23 21:11:45] Samirum : Hey guys
[2016-04-23 21:11:47] hedgehog0223 : Yubikey! okay, I will check that out
[2016-04-23 21:12:05] BitMEX_Sam : It's intentional - timing out sessions by default is an essential part of security on any financial website
[2016-04-23 21:12:12] BitMEX_Sam : I understand the annoyance which is why I've added an option.
[2016-04-23 21:12:18] rapidtrades : well make it 30 mins like finex
[2016-04-23 21:12:20] BitMEX_Sam : It'll roll over to the main site in the next days.
[2016-04-23 21:12:22] rapidtrades : smth reasonable
[2016-04-23 21:12:36] sleger : ok 30 min is decent
[2016-04-23 21:12:55] sleger : yubikey means carrying another device... and how do you plug that usb into the iphone?
[2016-04-23 21:13:07] BitMEX_Sam : Two ways - you can get a USB adapter, or use NFC
[2016-04-23 21:13:16] rapidtrades : CHOO CHOOO CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[2016-04-23 21:13:19] hedgehog0223 : NCF? how?
[2016-04-23 21:13:29] hitme1 : sleger microuUSD-USB adapter
[2016-04-23 21:13:34] BitMEX_Sam : If you have an NFC-enabled phone and an NFC-enabled Yubikey, you simply touch it to the back and it'll copy the code
[2016-04-23 21:13:40] sleger : you have to buy the NEO one it has nfc
[2016-04-23 21:13:42] mrp1nk : BitMEX_Sam: great news sam!
[2016-04-23 21:13:50] rapidtrades : my body is ready for the breakout, if any
[2016-04-23 21:13:56] BitMEX_Sam : They also have a TOTP (Google Authenticator-style) app where the codes are stored on the Yubikey itself, not your phone
[2016-04-23 21:13:58] hedgehog0223 : Ahh okay, got it! thanks
[2016-04-23 21:14:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 500 @ 451.89
[2016-04-23 21:14:18] hedgehog0223 : I did not know about yubikey
[2016-04-23 21:14:23] rapidtrades : smoke da shorts!
[2016-04-23 21:14:40] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: will look into it (yubikey), thanks for the tip
[2016-04-23 21:14:44] BitMEX_Sam : They're great. Very powerful - you can do challenge-response authentication, FIDO U2F, GPG, and quite a bit more
[2016-04-23 21:14:51] rapidtrades : choo choo mofos china's coming!
[2016-04-23 21:14:57] BitMEX_Sam : We may add U2F soon, I just got a few keys in the mail to test it out
[2016-04-23 21:15:03] sleger : rapidtrades: china is behind
[2016-04-23 21:15:07] BitMEX_Sam : That will only require plugging in the key, not entering any codes
[2016-04-23 21:15:17] rapidtrades : nah man...china just jumped $2 while finex is flat
[2016-04-23 21:15:23] BitMEX_Sam : We would be able to issue a challenge/response to the key directly. Very cool tech
[2016-04-23 21:15:50] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: similar to clef that bitfinex is using ?
[2016-04-23 21:15:54] rapidtrades : finex/okc gap now only 0.70
[2016-04-23 21:15:59] BitMEX_Sam : Different. I'll be honest, I'm not a fan of Clef
[2016-04-23 21:15:59] hedgehog0223 : keep up! very cool site
[2016-04-23 21:16:17] BitMEX_Sam : They have solid tech & a solid team - I met with them personally - but it is not meant for a high-security environment
[2016-04-23 21:17:18] BitMEX_Sam : However, I believe they are working on a compromise that will make it more palatable to use on a site like BitMEX. I haven't checked in with them in a few months.
[2016-04-23 21:17:42] sleger : would just be easier to be able to use ONE thing for bitmex, finex, 0kcoin etc...
[2016-04-23 21:18:17] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, understood.
[2016-04-23 21:18:51] giovannicontini : Instead of waiting the settlement at 14.00, can I terminate the contract before?
[2016-04-23 21:18:58] giovannicontini : I know it's a no obligation question, sorry
[2016-04-23 21:19:00] BitMEX_Sam : I'll take another look at them. My feeling was that the single authentication device felt rather insecure - and we don't want to be responsible for what could happen if a malicious actor steals a customer's phone
[2016-04-23 21:19:10] giovannicontini : *noob
[2016-04-23 21:19:11] BitMEX_Sam : giovannicontini: Sell or buy to bring your position to 0
[2016-04-23 21:19:37] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: with clef on my phone they also need my fingerprint
[2016-04-23 21:19:38] giovannicontini : Great thanks, and I don't need to make sure to set the same leverage, right?
[2016-04-23 21:19:45] sleger : or unlocking the phone so it feels safer
[2016-04-23 21:19:51] BitMEX_Sam : No, just buy/sell the same number of contracts.
[2016-04-23 21:20:13] BitMEX_Sam : You can click the number of contracts (under `Your Position`) to autofill the order controls.
[2016-04-23 21:20:21] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: I didn't realize they had added that, that's nice.
[2016-04-23 21:29:21] sleger : apparently yubikey nfc doesnt work with IOS...
[2016-04-23 21:30:57] BitMEX_Sam : Ah I heard that, apparently it's something they're going to open up soon. But how soon is anyone's guess
[2016-04-23 21:33:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 2298 @ 452.66
[2016-04-23 22:19:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 1900 @ 456.52
[2016-04-23 22:20:17] mrp1nk : rip bears
[2016-04-23 22:20:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 10 @ 453.59
[2016-04-23 22:21:13] rapidtrades : indeed, the bears be ded now
[2016-04-23 22:21:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.01872 :punch: :whale:
[2016-04-23 22:23:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 2000 @ 458.03
[2016-04-23 22:23:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1000 @ 454.55
[2016-04-23 22:23:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 20000 @ 458.85 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-04-23 22:23:22] REKT : Gentlemen, we have an eREKTion!
[2016-04-23 22:26:25] j8 : lol there's a new one
[2016-04-23 22:27:25] rapidtrades : a new what
[2016-04-23 22:28:56] j8 : a new pun from REKT
[2016-04-23 22:29:43] rapidtrades : so was this it...
[2016-04-23 22:29:53] rapidtrades : this TINY ASS PUMP
[2016-04-23 22:30:34] j8 : patience
[2016-04-23 22:30:51] j8 : look at a 3 day chart
[2016-04-23 22:30:53] donchard : pls when will bitmex be on playstre
[2016-04-23 22:51:42] 1QaZxSw2 : Bitmex_sam, clef requires you to do auth through their servers
[2016-04-23 22:51:52] 1QaZxSw2 : not sure you want that for a financial site
[2016-04-24 00:35:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM16`: Buy 1044 @ 503.65
[2016-04-24 00:41:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT48H`: Buy 6956 @ 457.85
[2016-04-24 00:41:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 400 @ 457.46
[2016-04-24 00:42:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT48H`: Buy 6356 @ 458.95
[2016-04-24 00:42:10] habibi : rektrection
[2016-04-24 00:42:49] sleger : weird this pump on low volume
[2016-04-24 00:43:12] REKT : Gentlemen, we have an eREKTion!
[2016-04-24 00:43:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 11550 @ 458.05
[2016-04-24 00:43:17] habibi : okc futures does not agree imo
[2016-04-24 00:43:35] habibi : 1h volume in finex is good as well
[2016-04-24 00:49:57] habibi : sleger ur thoughts?
[2016-04-24 00:50:54] sleger : about ?
[2016-04-24 00:54:25] habibi : about volume, where u see low volume and compared to what
[2016-04-24 00:56:26] sleger : finex volume
[2016-04-24 00:56:46] sleger : there was no 3k buy or anything even close its pump on low buy volume
[2016-04-24 00:57:31] rentchev : it's not a pump
[2016-04-24 00:57:32] sleger : i had a small long (100btc) when we broke 450 and just closed it when finex reached 458
[2016-04-24 00:57:37] rentchev : there are just no sellers
[2016-04-24 00:58:10] rentchev : I sold XBT7D at 464
[2016-04-24 00:58:33] rentchev : sleger: 100 BTC?
[2016-04-24 00:58:43] rentchev : that is not small
[2016-04-24 00:58:59] sleger : whatever is small for you might be big for someone else @rentchev
[2016-04-24 00:59:19] sleger : just here i have few hundred btc of play money
[2016-04-24 00:59:19] rentchev : my trade was worth 33 BTC
[2016-04-24 00:59:23] rentchev : yeah you are right
[2016-04-24 00:59:57] habibi : sleger whats the max lvl u allows urself to play here?
[2016-04-24 00:59:58] rentchev : how to you trade bigger sizes? MMs seem to offer only 7000
[2016-04-24 01:00:17] rentchev : to = do
[2016-04-24 01:00:25] habibi : rentchev: he has huge position on june contracts for example
[2016-04-24 01:00:41] sleger : habibi: lvl = leverage?
[2016-04-24 01:00:47] rentchev : like how much?
[2016-04-24 01:00:50] habibi : sleger: yes
[2016-04-24 01:01:01] sleger : leverage usually i try to not go over 3x
[2016-04-24 01:01:20] sleger : but now im long sept and short june but those dont net here
[2016-04-24 01:01:51] habibi : yea i think ur short position on june is much higher than long on june
[2016-04-24 01:01:57] habibi : bigger*
[2016-04-24 01:02:08] sleger : no actually i dont have very large positions here anymore since march expiry because : 1. bitmex screws us on settlement fees and that's not right so i refuse to take large positions 2. they will change the contracts structure so liquidity on long term futures will die...
[2016-04-24 01:02:52] j8 : yeah i'm not excited about the new direction.. at least the way its been described
[2016-04-24 01:03:00] habibi : sleger : I had half of the NOP of most contracts
[2016-04-24 01:03:04] habibi : its still huge imo
[2016-04-24 01:03:11] habibi : ah had* sorry
[2016-04-24 01:03:50] habibi : yea me too, i dont know why they wanna change sth that works good
[2016-04-24 01:03:54] sleger : j8: i agree with you
[2016-04-24 01:04:01] sleger : as usual ;)
[2016-04-24 01:04:15] j8 : it can probably work for eth, not XBT series though. cheers sleger
[2016-04-24 01:04:30] sleger : having some bollinger right now :D so cheers back
[2016-04-24 01:05:07] j8 : fancy
[2016-04-24 01:05:17] sleger : habibi: yes *had, i had a very large march position (almost 80% of nop at some point and always 50% at least)
[2016-04-24 01:05:51] sleger : now not so big : XBTM16 -27844 BTU16 12028
[2016-04-24 01:05:57] habibi : remember good old times when there were huge asks and bids on 24h
[2016-04-24 01:05:59] micmix : well at least we got to 70% fair basis
[2016-04-24 01:06:15] sleger : micmix: hello sir
[2016-04-24 01:06:18] micmix : on quarterly
[2016-04-24 01:06:23] micmix : hi sleger
[2016-04-24 01:06:28] sleger : im shorting 0kc quaterlies
[2016-04-24 01:07:01] rapidtrades : bak....site logged me out too lazy to get back in
[2016-04-24 01:07:24] micmix : what's the premium on okc qurterly now?
[2016-04-24 01:07:26] rapidtrades : it's true what they say, making $$$ makes ppl lazy
[2016-04-24 01:07:49] rapidtrades : micmix: u know what's the premium on finex? $5
[2016-04-24 01:08:21] rapidtrades : and okc is at $27
[2016-04-24 01:08:26] micmix : not too bad
[2016-04-24 01:08:58] sleger : 27 is a good place to short
[2016-04-24 01:09:15] rapidtrades : we're going for 500....its almost inevitable at this point
[2016-04-24 01:09:44] rapidtrades : not sure we'll break this but we're headed there for sure