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[2016-03-04 12:05:28] tscha : manual marketmaking like a baws
[2016-03-04 12:05:36] rapidtrades : dam this reversal is pretty strong
[2016-03-04 12:05:51] rapidtrades : finex a;ready 421
[2016-03-04 12:05:53] arbitrage001 : when is withdrawal usually process?
[2016-03-04 12:06:01] rapidtrades : now
[2016-03-04 12:06:05] gustavo7 : gonna pop 420
[2016-03-04 12:10:37] rapidtrades : this may be it for today lol
[2016-03-04 12:10:42] rapidtrades : not even kidding
[2016-03-04 12:18:32] BitMEX_Wally : XBT_Saver: the mark price for the 2 hours before expiry is a cumulative TWAP of the underlying index. Once the contract has expired and has relisted then it is marked to the last price of the underlying index.
[2016-03-04 12:20:05] BitMEX_Wally : The mark price was not frozen as such, it's just that the TWAP over 117 minutes and the TWAP over 120 minutes are very close.
[2016-03-04 12:20:33] BitMEX_Wally : The mark price converges onto the settlement price
[2016-03-04 12:21:11] XBT_Saver : I see
[2016-03-04 12:23:45] XBT_Saver : still 9 mins before settlement that pump in the market had pretty much no effect
[2016-03-04 12:24:11] XBT_Saver : so I'll just tell Christian it was not my fault!
[2016-03-04 12:25:48] XBT_Saver : also how come you use a 2 hour twap on eth but a 30 min twap on the xbt24h?
[2016-03-04 12:26:31] XBT_Saver : BitMEX_Wally: ^
[2016-03-04 12:27:06] habibi : XBT_Saver: its ur fault actually
[2016-03-04 12:28:10] habibi : ..whatever u did
[2016-03-04 12:28:52] XBT_Saver : habibi: no actually it's your fault!
[2016-03-04 12:29:00] habibi : ??
[2016-03-04 12:29:16] rapidtrades : habibi: where did u make 0.6 btc
[2016-03-04 12:29:38] rapidtrades : not clicking ur link
[2016-03-04 12:30:11] habibi : use sandbox if u afraid
[2016-03-04 12:30:28] XBT_Saver : BitMEX_Wally: how come you use a 2 hour twap on eth but a 30 min twap on the xbt24h?
[2016-03-04 12:30:39] rapidtrades : dam u lazy....i don't need to know that bad
[2016-03-04 12:31:17] habibi : rapidtrades: someone posted sell under the spot price then in panicked tried to buy back to close that position, his loss was 0.8 so do my profit
[2016-03-04 12:31:32] habibi : then in panic*
[2016-03-04 12:31:41] rapidtrades : oh ok...when tho?
[2016-03-04 12:31:53] habibi : 13:00-13:01
[2016-03-04 12:31:59] rapidtrades : WHAT
[2016-03-04 12:32:00] j8 : XBT_Saver: only the daily is 30 minutes, the weekly and longer contracts settle on 2 hour avg
[2016-03-04 12:32:13] habibi : on eth
[2016-03-04 12:32:17] habibi : rapidtrades:
[2016-03-04 12:32:18] rapidtrades : ah
[2016-03-04 12:32:20] rapidtrades : eth
[2016-03-04 12:32:22] rapidtrades : u feg
[2016-03-04 12:33:26] rapidtrades : apparently facebook started to blanket ban ppl who use the word faggot
[2016-03-04 12:34:09] XBT_Saver : j8: yeah I know that now... but don't know why... was just interested to know how come it's different?
[2016-03-04 12:34:25] j8 : because of the longer expiry
[2016-03-04 12:34:53] j8 : well, the daily is shorter because 2 hours is too long compared to only 24 hour duration
[2016-03-04 12:44:02] XBT_Saver : yeah but why 2 hours on everything else? or indeed why not 3½ hours which would then be the same ratio as the 30min twap on the xbt24h
[2016-03-04 12:45:10] rapidtrades : even 2 hrs is way too long imo
[2016-03-04 12:45:44] XBT_Saver : for 7 day instruments... and longer for longer dated instruments?
[2016-03-04 12:45:52] j8 : originally it was 2 hours, and there was no daily... 2 hours was sort of the standard set by okc (at the time)
[2016-03-04 12:46:13] rapidtrades : is 2hrs still on okc? i think its 30 mins now?
[2016-03-04 12:46:20] j8 : okc is one hour now
[2016-03-04 12:46:27] habibi : XBT_Saver: just to prevent manipulations in last minutes before settlement on longer positions that were build in days or months
[2016-03-04 12:47:36] XBT_Saver : habibi: manipulations!! lol on what the index!?
[2016-03-04 12:47:52] rapidtrades : yes
[2016-03-04 12:48:03] habibi : XBT_Saver: calm down as long pls as u are not complaining about new ui
[2016-03-04 12:48:11] XBT_Saver : I think you would need a lot of coins to do that!! lol
[2016-03-04 12:48:38] rapidtrades : yeah new UI's pretty shit
[2016-03-04 12:48:45] j8 : XBT_Saver: some people have a lot of coins
[2016-03-04 12:49:23] j8 : high leverage on futures means it could be worth it for them
[2016-03-04 12:52:36] elmorte : Nice one @habibi :)
[2016-03-04 12:52:43] XBT_Saver : yeah but I mean to manipulate the market... you really need so many coins... and I think if someone had that many coins... they would not need to be messing around on the market like that anyway...
[2016-03-04 12:53:54] j8 : XBT_Saver: the point is to design the system so it's difficult to do, and not trust the good intentions of whales
[2016-03-04 12:55:48] rapidtrades : yeah 30 mins is more then enough imo but the index has to be reformed
[2016-03-04 12:55:58] j8 : i agree 2 hours is a bit long.
[2016-03-04 12:56:03] XBT_Saver : well I think 1 hour is too long... because if the market is pumping just before settlement then you get fucked up a bit by the settlement price
[2016-03-04 12:56:19] rapidtrades : it's way to easy now to manipulate the 3 smaller excanges and create a fake consensus not based on volume
[2016-03-04 12:56:57] XBT_Saver : rapidtrades: on eth! you're joking right?
[2016-03-04 12:57:41] rapidtrades : XBT_Saver: stop pleb
[2016-03-04 12:57:49] elmorte : Nah, but he has a point
[2016-03-04 12:58:35] j8 : XBT_Saver: thats sort of the point though, it goes both ways, imagine it settled on a 5 minute average and the market dumped right before settlement... it's way worse
[2016-03-04 13:00:39] XBT_Saver : rapidtrades: lol yeah whatever! 24hr Volume: 55,894 on polo
[2016-03-04 13:01:09] habibi : XBT_Saver: and 5% 5m candles every few hors
[2016-03-04 13:01:12] habibi : hours
[2016-03-04 13:02:33] j8 : the way i think about it, when it's averaging your position is effectively reduced every minute. settling on a 2 hour average is the same as settling 1/120 of your position every minute
[2016-03-04 13:08:26] XBT_Saver : yeah just need to think about it more in future
[2016-03-04 13:09:05] sleger : 30 min is enough, no more please
[2016-03-04 13:10:01] XBT_Saver : sleger: exactly
[2016-03-04 13:10:24] j8 : 30 minutes is nice because it's a good amount of time to close other positions. i'm not in favour of 2 hours, just explaining why it is what it is
[2016-03-04 13:10:42] sleger : i dont want to have to spend 2 hours to manipulate the market that's too much time wasted, and it's easier to do on 30 min
[2016-03-04 13:10:49] j8 : lol
[2016-03-04 13:12:16] XBT_Saver : lol
[2016-03-04 13:12:25] XBT_Saver : sleger: you're joking too though right?
[2016-03-04 13:12:43] sleger : yeah, sure...
[2016-03-04 13:14:18] XBT_Saver : you're not really saying you can manipulate a 55,894 btc per day market are you?
[2016-03-04 13:15:14] habibi : XBT_Saver: to dump it right now by 2.5% u need about 60btc worth of eth
[2016-03-04 13:15:43] sleger : XBT_Saver: how many coins do you think it takes to move the price 1 % over 30 min ?
[2016-03-04 13:16:33] j8 : eth will not sustain that volume on polo anyway, be real
[2016-03-04 13:18:31] XBT_Saver : sleger: 1% over 30 mins has still got to be hundreds of coins no?
[2016-03-04 13:18:57] sleger : many people (including myself) have above the "hundreds of coins" mark
[2016-03-04 13:20:06] j8 : XBT_Saver: watch out, if you underestimate sleger's wealth, or his intelligence, you'll never stop hearing about it
[2016-03-04 13:20:19] sleger : true story
[2016-03-04 13:20:32] XBT_Saver : is that so! wow!
[2016-03-04 13:22:42] XBT_Saver : sleger: but is that correct though? can you move the market with hundreds of coins... 1% for 30mins
[2016-03-04 13:23:02] sleger : seems about right
[2016-03-04 13:23:19] sleger : low hundreds
[2016-03-04 13:24:33] XBT_Saver : have thou really actually done this before?
[2016-03-04 13:25:20] XBT_Saver : sleger: lol for real man?
[2016-03-04 13:25:33] sleger : no i would never do that
[2016-03-04 13:26:13] j8 : sleger: that seems a bit low, maybe during slow times but still it has a high risk of failing with only a few hundred
[2016-03-04 13:26:28] j8 : across several markets
[2016-03-04 13:26:48] XBT_Saver : sleger: holy shit man! respec!!
[2016-03-04 13:28:18] XBT_Saver : sleger: so how often do you do that? do you do it every week?
[2016-03-04 13:29:47] sleger : NFP incoming
[2016-03-04 13:32:02] XBT_Saver : I'm new here, but it seems to me like you could really be a whale, so could really do this, but rapid on the other hand only thinks he is a whale but actually he's a goldfish lol
[2016-03-04 13:33:21] habibi : XBT_Saver: groupie?
[2016-03-04 13:33:39] okaycn : 大家好
[2016-03-04 13:33:50] okaycn : 这里有说简体中文的吗？ 你们都是那个国家的
[2016-03-04 13:36:27] tscha : XBT_Saver: rule #1: 100% of the people claiming to be whales are not whales
[2016-03-04 13:36:45] XBT_Saver : okaycn: 你好
[2016-03-04 13:38:07] okaycn : XBT_Saver,你是管理员吗？ 我如果有什么交易的问题，可以在这里问吗？
[2016-03-04 13:38:10] XBT_Saver : habibi: groupie??
[2016-03-04 13:38:24] habibi : no, why asking?
[2016-03-04 13:39:05] okaycn : If ，have any problems?
[2016-03-04 13:42:15] XBT_Saver : okaycn: 问英在语人
[2016-03-04 13:42:32] rapidtrades : i wonder what will be the next excuse after this massive NFP beat
[2016-03-04 13:43:12] XBT_Saver : habibi: it's what you said to me?
[2016-03-04 13:43:16] XBT_Saver : why?
[2016-03-04 13:44:37] sleger : dont worry, his IQ is limited, but we keep him around as he is trying hard...
[2016-03-04 13:47:49] XBT_Saver : habibi: lol oh just because I think sleger is more likely to be a real whale than rapidtrades... ok then
[2016-03-04 13:49:07] XBT_Saver : okaycn: 什么是你的问题呢
[2016-03-04 13:49:15] habibi : i didnt ever seen rapid saying how wealth he is, but we all did about sleger :) so it was strange that u compare sleger and rapid in thay way, so it looked for me as u act like groupie :)
[2016-03-04 13:49:47] rapidtrades : yeah I'm def small fish compared to sleger...well if u trust his statements
[2016-03-04 13:50:08] rapidtrades : i never claimed otherwise :)
[2016-03-04 13:52:50] rapidtrades : ....aaaaand they're still buying the Euro....jesus the amount of stupid
[2016-03-04 13:55:35] XBT_Saver : rapidtrades: trust is subjective and relatively pointless
[2016-03-04 13:57:08] XBT_Saver : you said you could "easily" manipulate eth and I think that's bs, but if sleger does indeed have hundreds of coins then he can if he wants to
[2016-03-04 13:58:17] habibi : i think noone here stated that can easily manipulate eth
[2016-03-04 13:58:57] XBT_Saver : habibi: yeah rapid did earlier
[2016-03-04 13:59:18] sleger : he likes to be wrong
[2016-03-04 14:00:02] habibi : XBT_Saver: k, didnt see that then
[2016-03-04 14:05:10] okaycn : XBT_Saver: 默认是全仓保证金吗？ 全仓保证金和逐仓保证金 在哪里设置？
[2016-03-04 14:06:53] XBT_Saver : okaycn: 使用滑块
[2016-03-04 14:06:57] chromaticcr : okaycn: 如果使用全倉保證金 可以在左边那个滑杆点 ”Cross" ，逐仓的话就分别点 2x 3x...
[2016-03-04 14:08:15] okaycn : 那么如果我已经开完逐仓的保证金，是否还可以修改为全仓保证金呢？
[2016-03-04 14:09:05] chromaticcr : 可以的，点回滑块下面 “Cross” 字就可以了
[2016-03-04 14:09:38] okaycn : GOOD !!!
[2016-03-04 14:09:51] okaycn : 啊哈，我会了，谢谢
[2016-03-04 14:09:55] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 150 @ 0.02220
[2016-03-04 14:10:21] rapidtrades : WTF IS CHINESE
[2016-03-04 14:10:34] rapidtrades : XBT_Saver: i never said that u pleb
[2016-03-04 14:10:57] rapidtrades : also i was talking about the btc index, don't give a f about eth
[2016-03-04 14:11:17] okaycn : 平仓之后的收益或者亏损，是不是要到每天晚上8点才结算？？ 加入我现在开仓一个季度的期货合约，10天之后，我盈利1个币，我要是平仓之后，这个币能提走吗？ 还是说需要等一个季度结束之后才能提走？
[2016-03-04 14:11:19] chromaticcr : BitMEX老实不错的,就差个中文的版面... 有什么不懂留个言罢，我在这里都玩了差不多一年了
[2016-03-04 14:12:20] rapidtrades : what's with the hieroglyphs, u savages
[2016-03-04 14:12:35] okaycn : chromaticcr: 哇哈哈，怎么早点不说，！
[2016-03-04 14:13:48] okaycn : chromaticcr: 我觉得bitmex的界面好看，流畅，好用！ 就是提现差了点，一天只能一次，bitmex应该尽快推出一个中文版，人就多了，深度也就上来了
[2016-03-04 14:14:18] chromaticcr : 每个8小时的交易时段会解锁盈利，如果在交易时段内没有分摊那些的话就能够把盈利拿走了。基本上就是说每8小时分摊系统会运行一次，运行完了就能拿钱。
[2016-03-04 14:14:21] okaycn : chromaticcr: 能加一个QQ号或者微信号吗？ 我的QQ号 25567321
[2016-03-04 14:14:23] XBT_Saver : rapidtrades: rofl
[2016-03-04 14:14:59] chromaticcr : 好的，QQ谈 不搞着英文频度了 哈哈～
[2016-03-04 14:15:15] chromaticcr : Back to english channel, sorry for interruption
[2016-03-04 14:15:48] okaycn : chromaticcr: 先加上QQ ,主要还是在这里谈呗
[2016-03-04 14:18:42] XBT_Saver : rapidtrades: what you said was the funniest thing I've seen all day so it makes up for calling me a pleb a little bit! lol
[2016-03-04 14:19:26] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-03-04 14:27:41] chromaticcr : rapidtrades: you should be glad that I am inviting more degens over to pump up the premium bro
[2016-03-04 14:36:41] Mangalica : wat
[2016-03-04 14:36:54] Mangalica : ETH contracts got nuked lol
[2016-03-04 14:37:11] Mangalica : for a second or two
[2016-03-04 14:37:27] habibi : Mangalica: just one bot took orders off
[2016-03-04 14:37:44] Mangalica : yeah it seems like as there was no vol behind it
[2016-03-04 14:58:29] sleger : rapidtrades: holding on to your long ?
[2016-03-04 14:59:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 56 @ 499.34
[2016-03-04 15:08:57] rapidtrades : sleger: yes
[2016-03-04 15:24:06] j8 : sleger: is that your ask on june
[2016-03-04 18:34:52] rapidtrades : j8: guess we'll never know :)
[2016-03-04 19:38:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 200 @ 494.20
[2016-03-04 20:00:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 888 @ 416.91
[2016-03-04 20:08:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 5000 @ 416.79
[2016-03-04 20:46:14] sleger : j8: sorry was at the beach, no it wasnt me. How big ?
[2016-03-04 20:47:00] rapidtrades : i think 10k
[2016-03-04 20:48:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2200 @ 412.72
[2016-03-04 20:51:37] rapidtrades : sleger: u flat?
[2016-03-04 20:51:45] sleger : yes
[2016-03-04 20:52:02] hashman : eth leverage went up to 25x?
[2016-03-04 20:52:30] Teddy76 : sleger: holiday?
[2016-03-04 20:52:34] rapidtrades : indeed
[2016-03-04 20:52:38] rapidtrades : hashman:
[2016-03-04 20:52:44] sleger : long weekend
[2016-03-04 20:53:31] Teddy76 : Nice, Enjoy ;)
[2016-03-04 20:53:51] rapidtrades : doesn't seem very prudent to allow 25x on a product that just doubled in price...but what do i know
[2016-03-04 20:55:36] Teddy76 : rapidtrades: is 100x on XBT seems prudent?
[2016-03-04 20:55:58] rapidtrades : no
[2016-03-04 20:56:24] jung1 : bitcoin is dead?
[2016-03-04 20:56:58] Dakme : dead x2
[2016-03-04 20:57:34] Teddy76 : No there are some guys still need BTC to buy ETH :D
[2016-03-04 20:57:35] jung1 : damn
[2016-03-04 21:07:33] jung1 : maybe will be nice price for 2month contract in 3 weeks from now
[2016-03-04 21:32:28] rapidtrades : really weird price action
[2016-03-04 21:32:56] rapidtrades : slow drip lower
[2016-03-04 21:33:53] habibi : still dip buyers
[2016-03-04 21:34:02] rapidtrades : prolly
[2016-03-04 21:34:27] rapidtrades : or those ETH idiots selling their stash to buy more shitcoins
[2016-03-04 21:34:38] habibi : mostly they buying with btc
[2016-03-04 21:35:19] jung1 : we're buying with love
[2016-03-04 21:35:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 3500 @ 411.67
[2016-03-04 21:35:55] tscha : finally
[2016-03-04 21:36:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH16`: Sell 1000 @ 412.99
[2016-03-04 21:36:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 249 @ 0.02382
[2016-03-04 21:38:04] sleger : starting to buy some
[2016-03-04 21:38:26] jung1 : wait for 200
[2016-03-04 21:38:40] sleger : i can buy all the way down
[2016-03-04 21:39:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.02428
[2016-03-04 21:41:00] BTCDJS : XMR fellas
[2016-03-04 21:41:13] jung1 : eth wtf
[2016-03-04 21:41:14] splash : eth... funny
[2016-03-04 21:41:23] BTCDJS : Get yourself some XMR
[2016-03-04 21:41:24] jung1 : $10 already?
[2016-03-04 21:41:34] jung1 : BTCDJS: have some
[2016-03-04 21:42:16] splash : since btc is going to zero, eth is going to $10000.
[2016-03-04 21:42:21] BTCDJS : jung1: I've got XMR ETH and START
[2016-03-04 21:43:06] BTCDJS : BTC is disappointing me on m16
[2016-03-04 21:43:32] jung1 : maid is good investment so far also
[2016-03-04 21:43:34] rapidtrades : yep we're now hostage to one shitcoin
[2016-03-04 21:43:36] jung1 : a lot of alts on the rise
[2016-03-04 21:43:53] rapidtrades : f*Ck all alts
[2016-03-04 21:45:00] jung1 : *buy all alts
[2016-03-04 21:45:01] BTCDJS : jung1: I'm giving maid a miss even though it's pumping.
[2016-03-04 21:45:21] jung1 : great project
[2016-03-04 21:45:27] jung1 : I read some about it
[2016-03-04 21:45:29] sleger : is that to pay your cleaning lady ?
[2016-03-04 21:45:42] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: BTC will be bullish after 380-390 I think
[2016-03-04 21:46:15] BTCDJS : jung1: yeah as soon as they launch I'm going to use it
[2016-03-04 21:46:57] BTCDJS : There's going to be more than 3billion coins though. Nice pump now but that will be it
[2016-03-04 21:47:01] rapidtrades : we're bouncing! maybe
[2016-03-04 21:47:10] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: lol
[2016-03-04 21:47:44] BTCDJS : i fuckang hope so. I'm long m16
[2016-03-04 21:47:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 15 @ 411.27
[2016-03-04 21:47:47] REKT : Choppy waters make solid seamen!
[2016-03-04 21:47:53] rapidtrades : $3 reversal on finex
[2016-03-04 21:48:14] sleger : BTCDJS: long M16 ? did you read too much daddy's newsletter ?
[2016-03-04 21:48:25] sleger : rapidtrades: i bought a bunch on finex
[2016-03-04 21:48:34] rapidtrades : sleger: thanks
[2016-03-04 21:49:15] rapidtrades : i doubt you'll be able to stop the tide but who knows
[2016-03-04 21:49:39] rapidtrades : maybe if this fall is just those scammy eth founders selling BTC
[2016-03-04 21:50:26] sleger : h16 premium is almost zero !
[2016-03-04 21:51:10] BTCDJS : sleger: I don't read newsletters
[2016-03-04 21:51:38] sleger : not even arthur's one ?
[2016-03-04 21:51:49] sleger : he suggested many times to buy m16
[2016-03-04 21:52:20] rapidtrades : on mar25 we'll get september contract?
[2016-03-04 21:52:37] sleger : m16 premium went from almost 200 to <80 now
[2016-03-04 21:52:47] sleger : we should be yes @rapidtrades
[2016-03-04 21:52:54] rapidtrades : it's great isn't it :) @sleger
[2016-03-04 21:53:15] rapidtrades : i only had a small testing short but i'll prolly put more in the next cycle
[2016-03-04 21:53:29] rapidtrades : depends on premium i guess
[2016-03-04 21:54:38] rapidtrades : hopefully fomos bid up the september contract...premium rather thin for june
[2016-03-04 21:54:53] BTCDJS : sleger: oh well if Arthur said to do it then maybe I shouldn't have
[2016-03-04 21:54:56] rapidtrades : sleger: u still keeping those shorts i guess? too big to get out?
[2016-03-04 21:55:18] sleger : i just put a 3k bid on h16 and its just the mm bot slowly trading 500 with me
[2016-03-04 21:55:24] sleger : i have way over 100k to close
[2016-03-04 21:55:38] sleger : so yes probably keep to settlement
[2016-03-04 21:55:50] rapidtrades : ur on march right
[2016-03-04 21:55:59] sleger : both, mostly march
[2016-03-04 21:56:25] rapidtrades : u plan to roll to june or wait for sept to come out
[2016-03-04 21:56:50] sleger : dont know yet
[2016-03-04 21:57:11] sleger : and given the size of the position i wont say it before its done ;)
[2016-03-04 21:57:22] rapidtrades : hahaha sure :)
[2016-03-04 22:01:19] rapidtrades : so u were short 500 btc...u prolly collected $80 premium...easy 40k if we avoid clawback...does the math add up?
[2016-03-04 22:02:54] sleger : i dont think it was as much as 80 but yes the order of magnitude is right
[2016-03-04 22:08:24] aethlios : volume very low.
[2016-03-04 22:15:36] rapidtrades : well noone's f buying
[2016-03-04 22:16:51] rapidtrades : you're all standing with your dicks out waving in the desert
[2016-03-04 22:17:03] jung1 : so thats it
[2016-03-04 22:17:05] jung1 : bitcoin is over
[2016-03-04 22:17:25] rapidtrades : yeah pretty much dead, RIP bested by etherium
[2016-03-04 22:17:57] jung1 : [ * ]
[2016-03-04 22:21:22] rapidtrades : there;s stil a $10 gap cny/usd...why are teh chinese still bullish
[2016-03-04 22:21:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 4600 @ 412.90
[2016-03-04 22:29:19] tscha : Because the Chinese have no clue what is going on with Bitcoin.
[2016-03-04 22:29:22] fs123 : Hello
[2016-03-04 22:29:36] jung1 : they rule bitcoin
[2016-03-04 22:29:53] tscha : jung1: yet they dont understand it
[2016-03-04 22:29:59] jung1 : I think that they know exactly whats going on
[2016-03-04 22:30:07] jung1 : but own 80% of hashpower
[2016-03-04 22:30:10] fs123 : If i close position before contract expires i get penalized, rightt?
[2016-03-04 22:30:15] jung1 : alnd most of volume
[2016-03-04 22:30:20] rapidtrades : fs123: no
[2016-03-04 22:30:27] tscha : Owning hashpower doesn't mean you understand the system... any moron can buy hashpower
[2016-03-04 22:30:38] fs123 : Why some profits with held?
[2016-03-04 22:30:50] rapidtrades : fs123: what contract
[2016-03-04 22:31:24] fs123 : 50x 24 hr
[2016-03-04 22:32:06] rapidtrades : 24h gets partially release every 8 hrs....u get 50% after 8 hrs and %50 at settlement
[2016-03-04 22:32:16] fs123 : Ohhh ok
[2016-03-04 22:32:19] jung1 : fs123: you can close it now but your fund will be avaliable tommorow at 13:00
[2016-03-04 22:32:22] fs123 : Understood. Ty
[2016-03-04 22:32:34] jung1 : de nada
[2016-03-04 22:33:37] rapidtrades : fs123: but they release of the first 50% is still done manually, so it prolly won't be exaclty at each 8 hr interval...
[2016-03-04 22:34:11] fs123 : Yeah, thats fine. Was just curious how it worked
[2016-03-04 22:35:06] rapidtrades : all of it gets released at 13:00 CET
[2016-03-04 22:35:08] fs123 : So if i took one of the longer contracts id get paid 50% when i close and 50% when it settles.
[2016-03-04 22:35:41] fs123 : The time frame does not matter, correct?
[2016-03-04 22:46:18] rapidtrades : fs123: yeah it matters...above weekly and above settle every friday at 13:00
[2016-03-04 22:46:46] rapidtrades : i think the 50% is only on daily for now
[2016-03-04 22:59:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 5500 @ 408.68
[2016-03-04 22:59:57] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2016-03-04 22:59:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 60 @ 408.69
[2016-03-04 23:03:54] aethlios : all blocks full now, heading to a crisis, this block size issue is a real problem now.
[2016-03-04 23:04:05] rapidtrades : shut up
[2016-03-04 23:09:16] BTCDJS : Yeah these blocks
[2016-03-04 23:10:27] rapidtrades : WHO NEEDS EM RIGHT
[2016-03-04 23:10:38] BTCDJS : 1mb 2mb Can't we just make it 100mb and put it to bed already
[2016-03-04 23:14:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 200 @ 409.93
[2016-03-04 23:14:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 200 @ 410.13
[2016-03-04 23:52:38] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 200 @ 0.02561
[2016-03-04 23:53:09] rapidtrades : what a surprise....btc falls shitcoin rallies
[2016-03-04 23:53:13] rapidtrades : i hate etherium man
[2016-03-04 23:56:00] tscha : <3 eth <3
[2016-03-04 23:57:08] rapidtrades : tscha: hey traitor
[2016-03-04 23:59:52] rapidtrades : any good trading podcasts?
[2016-03-05 00:06:21] habibi : ts.stakepool.com kinda live podcast of btc traders
[2016-03-05 00:09:29] rapidtrades : tnx..u post the weirdest links tho
[2016-03-05 00:09:46] rapidtrades : habibi: any position on
[2016-03-05 00:10:01] habibi : short on m16
[2016-03-05 00:10:26] rapidtrades : ok
[2016-03-05 00:10:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 350 @ 0.02401
[2016-03-05 00:10:38] REKT : Have a bowl of chop-chop suey!
[2016-03-05 00:10:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 150 @ 0.02383
[2016-03-05 00:10:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 381 @ 0.02387
[2016-03-05 00:10:48] rapidtrades : dam here we go
[2016-03-05 00:10:54] rapidtrades : FUCK that shitcoin
[2016-03-05 00:13:25] Cashflow : where's the tab to activate 2FA?
[2016-03-05 00:15:57] j8 : Cashflow: click Account at the top, then My Account on the sidebar
[2016-03-05 00:16:31] Cashflow : j8: thanks
[2016-03-05 00:16:40] j8 : np
[2016-03-05 00:19:32] jung1 : rapidtrades: just keep calm and buy eth
[2016-03-05 00:22:10] micmix : IMHO with bitcoin going down some people with money would want to sell alts then sell btc to lock in profits
[2016-03-05 00:22:51] micmix : I wouldn't be surprised with alts going down a bit
[2016-03-05 00:23:00] habibi : eth mmakers allready taught people that whe btc goes down eth makes counter move up
[2016-03-05 00:26:38] lockhedge : what just happened at coinbase? https://tradeblock.com/markets/base/xbt-usd/15m/ 30k dump
[2016-03-05 00:28:39] habibi : 30k ? at what timeframe?
[2016-03-05 00:28:58] habibi : 3 days?
[2016-03-05 00:34:25] tscha : I don't see a 30k dump at coinbase
[2016-03-05 00:35:09] lockhedge : seems i have problems with my system time, charts a loading wrong data...
[2016-03-05 01:31:14] rapidtrades : okc back to 405
[2016-03-05 01:32:18] rapidtrades : and so is finex lol
[2016-03-05 02:15:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 3000 @ 484.23
[2016-03-05 02:19:29] jetadex : how do you do the leverage thing
[2016-03-05 02:25:08] rekt101 : just click cross, buy and wait
[2016-03-05 02:41:58] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 7600 @ 406.94
[2016-03-05 03:06:09] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 12 @ 0.02472
[2016-03-05 03:28:53] salcon : убрали подтверждение при открытии ордера? или я чё то нажал?
[2016-03-05 03:56:20] okaycn : 哈哈
[2016-03-05 03:56:30] okaycn : 跌这么多，做空的都赚了
[2016-03-05 04:08:06] zanza : anyone in Poland watching the IEM tournaments?
[2016-03-05 05:26:16] jung1 : no
[2016-03-05 05:28:46] jung1 : Bitcoin 404
[2016-03-05 05:28:50] jung1 : pump not found
[2016-03-05 05:40:09] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 3 @ 0.02580 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-05 05:40:49] jung1 : good morning eth
[2016-03-05 05:54:34] jung1 : so $10 was not a goal in eth rise
[2016-03-05 06:08:55] jung1 : https://news.bitcoin.com/estonian-health-records-secured-by-blockchain/
[2016-03-05 06:31:19] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 500 @ 407.53
[2016-03-05 06:58:13] jung1 : Ether have around 11.1 percent of the market cap of Bitcoin.
[2016-03-05 07:09:40] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.02593
[2016-03-05 08:10:09] chromaticcr : Coinbase wtf
[2016-03-05 08:11:56] jung1 : 395
[2016-03-05 08:12:07] jung1 : nice
[2016-03-05 08:12:17] jung1 : sellout before halving
[2016-03-05 08:43:55] splash : you devs!!! you're doing an amazing job on this exchange here.
[2016-03-05 08:44:10] splash : many "small" things about it that are really great
[2016-03-05 08:45:02] jung1 : yup
[2016-03-05 08:52:20] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 5 @ 405.32
[2016-03-05 09:03:17] jung1 : 0.02680
[2016-03-05 09:03:31] jung1 : eth is crazy
[2016-03-05 09:06:20] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 240 @ 406.40
[2016-03-05 09:11:31] laisee : ETH can buy BTC and use it for settlement network.
[2016-03-05 09:11:49] jung1 : that would be funny
[2016-03-05 09:12:36] laisee : BCT can be ETH settlement BiTCh
[2016-03-05 09:13:39] jung1 : im quite possible scenerio is bitcoin for money, eth for smart contracts and maidsafe for data
[2016-03-05 09:14:07] jung1 : also bitshares and monero can take some piece of altcoin cake
[2016-03-05 09:26:55] chromaticcr : #ToTheHell
[2016-03-05 09:27:41] jung1 : time to short btc
[2016-03-05 09:30:30] chromaticcr : Who knows if btc will go to hell like how eth go to moon
[2016-03-05 09:31:48] jung1 : or both will meet in the middle
[2016-03-05 09:32:24] jung1 : btw about this halving discussion
[2016-03-05 09:32:30] jung1 : A 12.5 BTC reward at $430 is the exact same thing as 25 BTC reward at $215.
[2016-03-05 09:40:01] jung1 : 0270 whopp whoop
[2016-03-05 09:41:32] Teddy76 : omg #altsareback really
[2016-03-05 09:41:36] Teddy76 : morning guys
[2016-03-05 09:41:51] Teddy76 : i love this kind of morning :D
[2016-03-05 09:43:24] jung1 : money never sleep
[2016-03-05 09:44:01] Teddy76 : BTS seems very good
[2016-03-05 09:45:17] jung1 : yeah
[2016-03-05 09:45:26] jung1 : really cheap
[2016-03-05 09:45:30] jung1 : dash as well
[2016-03-05 09:45:42] jung1 : a lot of interesting projects
[2016-03-05 09:46:23] jung1 : I read some about maidsafe. Quite strange name but really awesome protocol
[2016-03-05 09:46:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 5 @ 0.02708
[2016-03-05 09:46:55] Teddy76 : and ETH which don't really know his own top
[2016-03-05 09:47:27] Teddy76 : yeah i like MAID project
[2016-03-05 09:47:36] Teddy76 : not a simple copy/paste
[2016-03-05 09:47:43] jung1 : I think we can have new ath at least two weeks more
[2016-03-05 09:47:53] Teddy76 : on ETH?
[2016-03-05 09:48:12] jung1 : yes
[2016-03-05 09:48:13] Teddy76 : i think dump on the news seems more credible
[2016-03-05 09:49:06] Teddy76 : But we never know with ETH
[2016-03-05 09:49:26] jung1 : 14.03 will be release of second stable version
[2016-03-05 09:49:29] jung1 : homestead
[2016-03-05 09:49:31] Teddy76 : not an easy tradable coin, but a big buy & hold
[2016-03-05 09:49:37] habibi : jung1: what does homestead brings?
[2016-03-05 09:49:57] Teddy76 : yeah it's about Homestead when i said "sell on the news"
[2016-03-05 09:50:29] Teddy76 : Homestead is the second big step after first was Frontier
[2016-03-05 09:50:36] Teddy76 : there will be 6 steps like this
[2016-03-05 09:50:48] Teddy76 : in total
[2016-03-05 09:50:58] Teddy76 : Homestead = 2/6
[2016-03-05 09:51:00] jung1 : Homestead is the second major version release of the Ethereum platform, which includes several protocol changes and a networking change that gives us the ability to do further network upgrades: EIP-2 Main homestead hardfork changes EIP-7 Hardfork EVM update: DELEGATECALL EIP-8 devp2p forward compatibility
[2016-03-05 09:51:11] jung1 : https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/48arax/homestead_release_faq/
[2016-03-05 09:51:16] habibi : jung1: what does it brings :)
[2016-03-05 09:51:26] Teddy76 : lol
[2016-03-05 09:51:51] habibi : i dont want u to sell me news, wanna see if u ever read all EIP explanations at all
[2016-03-05 09:52:14] jung1 : Im not selling you news
[2016-03-05 09:52:28] jung1 : but there you have all needed info
[2016-03-05 09:52:34] habibi : thats not the question :)
[2016-03-05 09:52:47] Teddy76 : not many people can explain clearly ethereum i think
[2016-03-05 09:54:13] jung1 : ETH gained $250M market cap, BTC lost $250M market cap.
[2016-03-05 09:54:52] habibi : i love how u just bring quotes here that u read on reddit
[2016-03-05 09:55:17] habibi : or watched at max kolonko tv as with goldman sanchs vs trump :p
[2016-03-05 09:55:59] habibi : anyway yep, i underestimated eth bubble, its really nice made
[2016-03-05 09:56:52] jung1 : I did not watch that kolonko with trump
[2016-03-05 09:57:35] habibi : so u quoted someone that watched that and said that first :)
[2016-03-05 09:58:32] jung1 : actually snowden tweet about it
[2016-03-05 09:58:43] jung1 : I dont think so he watch kolonko
[2016-03-05 09:59:10] habibi : so kolonko watch him :)
[2016-03-05 10:01:43] jung1 : dunno
[2016-03-05 10:01:50] jung1 : but trump will win
[2016-03-05 10:02:12] jung1 : interesting times comes
[2016-03-05 10:03:45] habibi : not for poland if trump wins
[2016-03-05 10:04:40] zanza : ETH bubble
[2016-03-05 10:04:42] zanza : in full effect
[2016-03-05 10:06:04] jung1 : My belief is that Bitcoin will resolve its current problems within 6 months and the market cap will be within 10% of what it is today, then it will continue to grow and ETH will be 3x its current price by then. A small percentage of buyers will be those fully cashing out of Bitcoin.
[2016-03-05 10:10:23] chromaticcr : Are you sure that the network effect is such weak for bitcoin?
[2016-03-05 10:11:04] jung1 : cant be shure
[2016-03-05 10:11:09] jung1 : but I think yes
[2016-03-05 10:11:26] jung1 : price drops like $20 after roundtable so far
[2016-03-05 10:11:47] habibi : in case u wanted to say at terms of usd about eth, what u actually said is that eth will be close to btc price, u know?
[2016-03-05 10:12:17] jung1 : yes
[2016-03-05 10:13:22] habibi : k
[2016-03-05 10:17:11] jung1 : wanna another bet?
[2016-03-05 10:18:07] kb1985 : so is any additional verification needed to margin trader ETH x15 here?
[2016-03-05 10:18:20] jung1 : no
[2016-03-05 10:18:21] jung1 : just deposit
[2016-03-05 10:18:27] jung1 : and have fun
[2016-03-05 10:18:34] habibi : kb1985: 25x
[2016-03-05 10:18:36] splash : eth will soon crash
[2016-03-05 10:18:40] splash : retrace
[2016-03-05 10:18:42] kb1985 : quite scary now if bitocoin corrects itself those longs might be doomed but worth riskign small amunt i guess
[2016-03-05 10:18:43] splash : not crssh
[2016-03-05 10:18:58] kb1985 : wel if it crahses you can short, it works both ways, place your bets :)
[2016-03-05 10:19:06] splash : yes
[2016-03-05 10:19:07] jung1 : yeah
[2016-03-05 10:19:14] splash : always ways o make money
[2016-03-05 10:20:49] kb1985 : ETH market is quite samall here so easy to manipulate it
[2016-03-05 10:21:52] splash : eth is, i think, behaving perfectly from a TA view point
[2016-03-05 10:22:44] splash : btc at some support here, eth closing in on res
[2016-03-05 10:23:08] splash : pair traders about to revers
[2016-03-05 10:23:57] splash : eth on its secons wave (weekly)
[2016-03-05 10:24:04] splash : and tretracesoonish
[2016-03-05 10:24:28] splash : then back up again i yhink, towatds 0.5 and possibly higher
[2016-03-05 10:25:25] kb1985 : does not work like that ;)
[2016-03-05 10:26:09] jung1 : would be nice if there will be some like 15% dump
[2016-03-05 10:26:43] kb1985 : there al;ways is
[2016-03-05 10:29:51] splash : oh... the retrace is going to be a major event
[2016-03-05 10:30:18] splash : very close now. like hours
[2016-03-05 10:30:34] kb1985 : on small market like here is is really easy to manipulate and make the makret go different than on other exchanges :D
[2016-03-05 10:30:51] habibi : kb1985: nope
[2016-03-05 10:31:00] splash : i think eth is going to turn on all exchanges
[2016-03-05 10:31:15] splash : no manipulation either
[2016-03-05 10:31:20] splash : just the crowd
[2016-03-05 10:31:29] habibi : kb1985: but u talking about bitmex here right?
[2016-03-05 10:37:09] jung1 : eth cant into dump
[2016-03-05 10:40:19] splash : not time for eth retrace/crsash yet
[2016-03-05 10:40:36] splash : i think its about to go up more
[2016-03-05 10:46:26] kb1985 : or down
[2016-03-05 10:46:45] kb1985 : you just wont know ;)
[2016-03-05 10:46:45] rapidtrades : so finex at 405, okc 406 index 406.50
[2016-03-05 10:46:49] rapidtrades : makes sense i guess
[2016-03-05 10:47:23] zanza : Coinbase CEO spoke out against BTC
[2016-03-05 10:47:27] rapidtrades : oh it's 405.50, my bad
[2016-03-05 10:47:28] zanza : core,
[2016-03-05 10:47:51] jung1 : coinbase 396
[2016-03-05 10:47:54] rapidtrades : price changed after i refreshed
[2016-03-05 10:48:14] rapidtrades : can u make an account if ur not american
[2016-03-05 10:48:35] rapidtrades : ah f it, u prolly can't get verified in time to buy
[2016-03-05 10:48:52] splash : well its going up more eth
[2016-03-05 10:49:14] rapidtrades : yeah i see 0.0277
[2016-03-05 10:49:23] jung1 : 0.03 today
[2016-03-05 10:49:31] rapidtrades : $11.24
[2016-03-05 10:49:35] rapidtrades : per shitcoin
[2016-03-05 10:49:59] kb1985 : i know this is silly question but where is there "close position" button here?
[2016-03-05 10:51:15] kb1985 : i am looking at my open positon but don't know how to close it, good i played only with small amount of coins :D
[2016-03-05 10:51:26] habibi : dont close
[2016-03-05 10:51:33] rapidtrades : kb1985: open tee same amount of contract in opposite direction
[2016-03-05 10:51:43] kb1985 : oh, ok
[2016-03-05 10:51:45] jung1 : something is worth as much as people can pay for it
[2016-03-05 10:51:57] jung1 : I can pay for it 100$
[2016-03-05 10:52:03] jung1 : do the math
[2016-03-05 10:52:05] jung1 : hehe
[2016-03-05 10:52:15] rapidtrades : right but $11 doesn't make sense considering the planned circulation
[2016-03-05 10:52:22] rapidtrades : 6 bil?
[2016-03-05 10:52:27] rapidtrades : 600 bil?
[2016-03-05 10:54:29] kb1985 : ha told ztou there would be corretion shorters won this short term round ł=
[2016-03-05 10:54:35] jung1 : stop looking for sense in crypto
[2016-03-05 10:54:41] kb1985 : not for too long i guess ŁD
[2016-03-05 10:55:00] habibi : kb1985: klawiatura Ci sie przestawila:)
[2016-03-05 10:55:05] jung1 : yeah awesome correction , from 2780 to 2740
[2016-03-05 10:55:14] kb1985 : habibi: hahah, dzięki :D wlasnie bylem ciekaw czy ktos zauwazy :D