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[2016-03-02 11:52:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 180 @ 0.01819
[2016-03-02 11:52:15] chromaticcr : where are the settlement excitement
[2016-03-02 11:52:17] chromaticcr : lol
[2016-03-02 11:53:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 10 @ 0.01838
[2016-03-02 11:57:47] jesperf : if i had a hat i'd buy a new hat and eat them both
[2016-03-02 11:57:52] jesperf : never imagined eth to shoot up this far
[2016-03-02 11:58:27] jung1 : get use to it
[2016-03-02 11:58:48] jung1 : you will see what will happen when all these dapps will be published
[2016-03-02 11:59:05] jung1 : eth is like shares of new internet
[2016-03-02 12:05:02] jung1 : long live meth
[2016-03-02 12:07:17] jesperf : well if i go long here instead you can bet it will go down ;)
[2016-03-02 12:13:20] jung1 : 6k sell wall on polo
[2016-03-02 12:14:03] jung1 : 10k
[2016-03-02 12:15:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2000 @ 430.22
[2016-03-02 12:15:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 49 @ 430.68
[2016-03-02 12:15:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 9 @ 430.56
[2016-03-02 12:15:43] tscha : whoo <3
[2016-03-02 12:19:48] jung1 : 12k
[2016-03-02 12:31:52] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2016-03-02 12:31:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 20 @ 0.01907
[2016-03-02 12:31:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.01904
[2016-03-02 12:32:33] jung1 : damn
[2016-03-02 12:33:52] jesperf : ok, i'm out of my stupid short
[2016-03-02 12:33:59] habibi : 2000 was ur?
[2016-03-02 12:33:59] jesperf : held on to that for stupidly long
[2016-03-02 12:34:01] jesperf : ya
[2016-03-02 12:34:08] habibi : opened little short on it
[2016-03-02 12:34:37] jesperf : i went short at 0.015. right after i closed it shot up like a rocket
[2016-03-02 12:35:10] jung1 : so next tima share your trading ideas
[2016-03-02 12:35:18] jung1 : we will play against
[2016-03-02 12:35:22] jung1 : ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2016-03-02 12:35:24] jesperf : that's the problem
[2016-03-02 12:37:19] jung1 : sometimes you lose, sometime you win
[2016-03-02 12:37:36] jung1 : loss is like fuel for profit
[2016-03-02 12:37:37] jesperf : yeah at least I'm still in the green by not holding out to liquidation
[2016-03-02 12:38:00] habibi : where did u hold that short from?
[2016-03-02 12:38:13] jesperf : from the flatline at 0.015
[2016-03-02 12:38:43] habibi : oh pretty bad loss
[2016-03-02 12:38:47] jung1 : how many %?
[2016-03-02 12:39:04] habibi : u should closed it on breakout 0.0155
[2016-03-02 12:39:31] jung1 : or today at 0.02
[2016-03-02 12:39:40] jesperf : I've regretted changing my mind before
[2016-03-02 12:40:13] jesperf : I got a nice profit from 0.008 up to 0.014 in the last rally
[2016-03-02 12:42:48] jung1 : crazy
[2016-03-02 12:43:37] jung1 : noone is selling eth
[2016-03-02 12:47:40] jung1 : you know that everyone who bought 2k eth for 1btc in presale now have around 40btc?
[2016-03-02 12:48:12] jesperf : I think it's a huge build up for a huge crash sooner or later
[2016-03-02 12:48:17] jesperf : it's going too fast
[2016-03-02 12:48:24] jung1 : thats for shure
[2016-03-02 12:48:43] jung1 : but whole eth ecosystem have alot of space to grow imo
[2016-03-02 12:49:05] habibi : yep, eth1 eth2, clone of exp1 clone of eth3 :D
[2016-03-02 12:49:51] jung1 : bitcoin is hipster technology and ether? noone know it
[2016-03-02 12:50:12] jung1 : habibi: yeah but all of them could be made on ethereum
[2016-03-02 12:50:26] habibi : and on microsoft chain as well right?
[2016-03-02 12:50:51] jung1 : why not
[2016-03-02 12:51:07] habibi : so actually no real value
[2016-03-02 12:51:16] jung1 : ?
[2016-03-02 12:51:26] jung1 : its like bricks
[2016-03-02 12:51:54] jung1 : you cant look at this as a currency
[2016-03-02 12:52:08] jesperf : people sure as hell shouldn't pay $10 per brick
[2016-03-02 12:52:21] jung1 : its more like you are buying IP addresses in the beggining of internet
[2016-03-02 12:52:34] habibi : ?
[2016-03-02 12:53:11] jung1 : you are buing shares of whole net network
[2016-03-02 12:56:07] jung1 : oh
[2016-03-02 12:56:10] jung1 : another exp pump
[2016-03-02 12:58:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1024 @ 431.54
[2016-03-02 13:11:58] sleger : micmix: I had some issues with new fix api so emailed support and FYI their response is "I just got the reply from our API team, they just told me that we are activate the future trade for FIX API for a few days and it is not stable for the time being."
[2016-03-02 15:20:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 2000 @ 429.74
[2016-03-02 15:46:55] jung1 : any info about bitmex mobile app? Its quite annoying to log in everytime
[2016-03-02 15:48:32] donkey : bitmex mobile app would be great!
[2016-03-02 15:48:48] rapidtrades : jung1: they worked sooooo hard on the new UI so didn't have time for it
[2016-03-02 15:49:24] donkey : thats alot of hard work for just some UI 8-)
[2016-03-02 15:49:30] rapidtrades : eth 1.0197 REALLY
[2016-03-02 15:49:45] rapidtrades : 0.0197
[2016-03-02 15:49:52] gielbier : insane
[2016-03-02 15:49:56] rapidtrades : really...how stupid are these ppl man
[2016-03-02 15:50:06] habibi : everyone is shocked rapidtrades :)
[2016-03-02 15:50:43] rapidtrades : i have no idea where to short this thing
[2016-03-02 15:50:53] jung1 : just dont
[2016-03-02 15:51:05] Teddy76 : eth = 10% of BTC market cap now
[2016-03-02 15:51:18] rapidtrades : that's insane
[2016-03-02 15:51:26] Teddy76 : all ETH shorters are dead, don't do that
[2016-03-02 15:51:29] rapidtrades : 600 mil?
[2016-03-02 15:51:31] rapidtrades : cmon
[2016-03-02 15:51:38] rapidtrades : 600 million for a shitcoin?
[2016-03-02 15:51:44] Teddy76 : lol
[2016-03-02 15:51:45] donkey : 15x ETH.. 200% profit on my position from 7 hours ago i like i like
[2016-03-02 15:51:53] Teddy76 : not shitcoin man
[2016-03-02 15:51:57] Teddy76 : DYOR
[2016-03-02 15:52:01] rapidtrades : ok spamcoin
[2016-03-02 15:52:09] Teddy76 : why?
[2016-03-02 15:52:27] rapidtrades : cause they sent a ton of spam right before they started pumping
[2016-03-02 15:52:38] rapidtrades : classic pump&dump scheme
[2016-03-02 15:52:50] rapidtrades : i got like 3 seperate redddit pms
[2016-03-02 15:53:09] Teddy76 : pump&dump scheme is crypto-related
[2016-03-02 15:53:12] jung1 : wait in 2 weeks from now
[2016-03-02 15:53:18] donkey : you tellin me they try to manipulate a altcoin???? no waaaay!!
[2016-03-02 15:53:20] jung1 : to short
[2016-03-02 15:55:20] rapidtrades : i should short this shit and use the monies to buy a new UI
[2016-03-02 15:55:54] rapidtrades : I'll get some ruskies together and be like ''code me a new browser b1tches''
[2016-03-02 15:59:05] rapidtrades : really looks like whenever eth goes up btc goes down
[2016-03-02 15:59:16] rapidtrades : maybe devs using their btc stash to pump
[2016-03-02 15:59:34] jung1 : just buy and wait till 1btc=1rth
[2016-03-02 15:59:37] jung1 : hehe
[2016-03-02 15:59:55] rapidtrades : that's impossible...well highly unlikely
[2016-03-02 16:00:03] jung1 : you dont know
[2016-03-02 16:00:11] jung1 : maybe btc will fall in couple of years
[2016-03-02 16:00:24] jung1 : or polo will pump it like mtgox
[2016-03-02 16:00:28] rapidtrades : ur right, anything's possible in finance
[2016-03-02 16:00:46] habibi : only problem is that u have less btc than eth
[2016-03-02 16:00:47] rapidtrades : so highly unlikely...like 99% against
[2016-03-02 16:00:53] jung1 : one thing is shure: will be fun
[2016-03-02 16:01:42] rapidtrades : are we at $10 yet
[2016-03-02 16:02:04] rapidtrades : $8.38
[2016-03-02 16:02:14] jung1 : in that tempo
[2016-03-02 16:02:16] sleger : " really looks like whenever eth goes up btc goes down" that's because you're looking at eth/BTC price @rapidtrades
[2016-03-02 16:02:18] jung1 : tommorow will be 10
[2016-03-02 16:02:29] jung1 : yeah
[2016-03-02 16:02:34] jung1 : eth dont give a shit about btc
[2016-03-02 16:02:35] rapidtrades : sleger: well eth has been up in general too
[2016-03-02 16:02:54] jung1 : and in time will be even more independent
[2016-03-02 16:02:56] rapidtrades : the eth moves are proportionally much larger
[2016-03-02 16:03:24] rapidtrades : devs dip into their stash, sell some btc, we fell shitcoin rallies...then we go back up
[2016-03-02 16:03:41] jung1 : couse people learn about biubbkles from btc
[2016-03-02 16:03:45] jung1 : and know how to act
[2016-03-02 16:03:54] jung1 : just wait till fresh blood will came to eth
[2016-03-02 16:03:56] rapidtrades : what's a biubbkles
[2016-03-02 16:04:20] jung1 : bubble
[2016-03-02 16:04:25] jung1 : sorry im on phone
[2016-03-02 16:04:33] habibi : eth used to fall when btc was spiking, but MMs at some point taught people that they not allows for doom when btc goes up, so people now buying when btc goes up or down :p
[2016-03-02 16:05:22] rapidtrades : yeah smth fishy is up with eth...how much BTC did u say they have @habibi
[2016-03-02 16:05:25] jung1 : you will see that maybe in one year eth price will be quite independent from btc
[2016-03-02 16:05:46] rapidtrades : never gonna happen, all coins follow btc to some degree
[2016-03-02 16:05:52] habibi : jung1: year from now we will have eth 2.0
[2016-03-02 16:05:55] sleger : yes when you're stuck at 0 you're quite independent indeed
[2016-03-02 16:05:58] habibi : and then sth 3.0
[2016-03-02 16:06:02] jung1 : it will be huge pump till release of stable version
[2016-03-02 16:06:05] jung1 : then dump
[2016-03-02 16:06:15] jung1 : with blood of virgins
[2016-03-02 16:06:25] jung1 : but build on this eth
[2016-03-02 16:06:40] jung1 : will be a lot of dapps
[2016-03-02 16:07:37] habibi : rapidtrades: i dont know how much btc they have, just i know that 60% of presale coins werent moved at all, and 3-4 days ago few milions hit poloniex/kraken
[2016-03-02 16:08:18] habibi : in txs from 100k to 1.3milion
[2016-03-02 16:08:55] jung1 : you know that one year from now you could buy 2000eth for 1btc in presale?
[2016-03-02 16:09:12] jung1 : like 80% of that wallet was not open since then
[2016-03-02 16:09:18] habibi : thats the presale i am talking about
[2016-03-02 16:09:25] habibi : i told u 60% not 80%
[2016-03-02 16:09:27] habibi : lel
[2016-03-02 16:10:05] jung1 : +1
[2016-03-02 16:10:14] rapidtrades : so they're getting ready to sell
[2016-03-02 16:10:27] jung1 : I think they will wait like 5yrs
[2016-03-02 16:10:43] rapidtrades : then why move millions of coins now and spook the market
[2016-03-02 16:11:03] rapidtrades : they're selling and pumping the market so they can sell into/ tinfoil
[2016-03-02 16:11:12] jung1 : shure
[2016-03-02 16:11:27] jung1 : but look at these pumps in the start
[2016-03-02 16:11:35] jung1 : from 0.002 to 0.009
[2016-03-02 16:11:43] jung1 : then back to 0.0018
[2016-03-02 16:11:50] jung1 : whales bought a lot
[2016-03-02 16:11:56] jung1 : and now they play
[2016-03-02 16:12:05] jung1 : or some early miners
[2016-03-02 16:12:37] habibi : speaking of
[2016-03-02 16:12:37] habibi : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSbFH7yUcAAx6pR.jpg
[2016-03-02 16:12:48] habibi : they made that rigs for eth start
[2016-03-02 16:13:11] jung1 : pfff
[2016-03-02 16:14:04] jung1 : so they already made already GDP of some small country
[2016-03-02 16:18:20] rapidtrades : everything about that coin smells of dishonesty
[2016-03-02 16:18:35] jung1 : why?
[2016-03-02 16:18:47] rapidtrades : premined, pre-sold, spammed, likely pumping
[2016-03-02 16:18:53] rapidtrades : also a russian made it
[2016-03-02 16:19:15] jung1 : russian made vodka also
[2016-03-02 16:19:34] rapidtrades : and vodka killed millions...
[2016-03-02 16:19:54] jung1 : but milions get a life couse of that
[2016-03-02 16:20:14] rapidtrades : how
[2016-03-02 16:20:40] jung1 : you never fucked while you drunk?
[2016-03-02 16:20:47] jung1 : *have sex
[2016-03-02 16:21:17] rapidtrades : ahahaha
[2016-03-02 16:22:01] rapidtrades : no I'm twelve and what's this
[2016-03-02 16:22:51] jung1 : so you can trade here
[2016-03-02 16:22:56] jung1 : cant
[2016-03-02 16:23:56] jung1 : quick send all your coins here 3BMEX8wPEEwd13UFcUcHupHaEXYnpBpD3R and delete account. I will not tell Sam
[2016-03-02 16:24:11] sleger : uncle Sam ?
[2016-03-02 16:24:28] habibi : how about father Casper?
[2016-03-02 16:24:44] rapidtrades : i need daddy to come back home and change my diapy diapy
[2016-03-02 16:25:42] rapidtrades : my daddy runs a semi-famous bitcoin exchange with shitty UI....DO YOU KNOW HIM?11
[2016-03-02 16:25:57] jung1 : just stom
[2016-03-02 16:26:00] jung1 : stop
[2016-03-02 16:27:58] rapidtrades : ok eth crashing, hopefully we go back up now
[2016-03-02 16:28:25] habibi : fugazi, its not crashin
[2016-03-02 16:28:45] rapidtrades : well it's down like 2.5%
[2016-03-02 16:29:10] habibi : https://cryptowat.ch/poloniex/ethbtc/1m whole 1m chart looks like that
[2016-03-02 16:30:08] jung1 : habibi: my bet that we will reach 100$ in less than 2yrs is still actuall
[2016-03-02 16:30:16] habibi : jung1: dream on baby
[2016-03-02 16:30:28] jung1 : already hear that from you
[2016-03-02 16:30:29] jung1 : ;)
[2016-03-02 16:30:50] habibi : ok ok :) actually u said 1 year from that time but it doesnt change a lot :)
[2016-03-02 16:31:14] jung1 : could be as well
[2016-03-02 16:31:29] habibi : could be tomorrow as well in that terms :)
[2016-03-02 16:31:47] jung1 : I said that new ath will be in one week and it was
[2016-03-02 16:32:34] habibi : actually by the end of february, so u miss it by 2 days :)
[2016-03-02 16:32:39] habibi : 1 :)
[2016-03-02 16:32:49] jung1 : in $ it reached in saturady
[2016-03-02 16:33:17] habibi : yeah, u are kind of magician :)
[2016-03-02 16:33:26] jung1 : oh stop you
[2016-03-02 16:34:21] rapidtrades : we can't stop, we're children
[2016-03-02 16:34:29] rapidtrades : we need boundaries
[2016-03-02 16:36:35] habibi : imo dump inc before 0.02 but won't put moeny on that
[2016-03-02 16:36:51] jung1 : small one is possible
[2016-03-02 16:37:07] jung1 : but I bet that we are bullish a least two weeks more
[2016-03-02 16:42:13] cryptostephen : is Seychelles nice? I was going to vacation there
[2016-03-02 16:43:42] habibi : https://blog.bitmex.com/crypto-trader-digest-29-feb/ no more Casper, i see some fight inside bitmex team
[2016-03-02 16:51:32] arbitrage001 : anyone seen this?
[2016-03-02 16:51:34] arbitrage001 : http://www.fyrstikken.com/blog/arthur-haynes-of-bitmexcom-stole-my-photo-and-used-it-to-promote-a-questionable-futures-contract-that-he-made-himself
[2016-03-02 16:53:31] jung1 : meh
[2016-03-02 16:54:07] elmorte : Yeah, they were talking about it earlier
[2016-03-02 16:54:37] habibi : arbitrage001: nothing fancy, only interesing thing is that we finally found our dad
[2016-03-02 17:05:41] jung1 : https://www.newscientist.com/article/2079334-blockchain-based-microgrid-gives-power-to-consumers-in-new-york/
[2016-03-02 17:05:48] jung1 : we are new enron guys
[2016-03-02 17:05:50] jung1 : gratz
[2016-03-02 17:08:40] sleger : solar energy in new york, yeah ...
[2016-03-02 17:10:11] jung1 : first ever oil rig was made in Poland
[2016-03-02 17:11:27] habibi : yep they are finally selling a bit stash
[2016-03-02 17:55:27] Tulip_stefan : Anyone else having connection issues with btc-e since 1:00 last night??
[2016-03-02 17:56:21] Tulip_stefan : bot is working fine but my balance-query scripts suddendly give some obscure SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert internal error. Still works fine at a different pc...
[2016-03-02 18:00:38] sleger : then you know its not btce
[2016-03-02 18:01:02] sleger : it's just a SSL error as it says in the name
[2016-03-02 18:01:24] Tulip_stefan : Yeah.. Probably old software. Coinorama also displays a flat line for btc-e
[2016-03-02 18:02:27] sleger : is that a corporate/university computer ?
[2016-03-02 18:02:33] sleger : OS / software ?
[2016-03-02 18:02:45] Tulip_stefan : coinorama?
[2016-03-02 18:03:14] sleger : no the computer who gives you the error
[2016-03-02 18:03:34] Tulip_stefan : My server, debian... newest stable.
[2016-03-02 18:04:19] Tulip_stefan : last week i had a similar issue with a different exchange, but it turned out i still had an ssl build from 2007 on my windows workstation. But my server should be up to date.
[2016-03-02 18:04:35] sleger : what software is throwing the error ? as in language used / library
[2016-03-02 18:04:47] Tulip_stefan : python 2.7
[2016-03-02 18:05:00] sleger : ah thats why
[2016-03-02 18:05:19] sleger : i assumed as much but thought you would never use python given how you talked about it
[2016-03-02 18:05:26] sleger : theres one way to solve this bug
[2016-03-02 18:05:32] Tulip_stefan : 'OpenSSL 1.0.1k 8 Jan 2015' it says... weird.
[2016-03-02 18:05:45] sleger : create a mini script that just does the query and run it with python3 then you can use your python2 again
[2016-03-02 18:06:23] sleger : and then just throw away all your python2 stuff and use python3, then you will be able to say you are up to date
[2016-03-02 18:08:19] Tulip_stefan : I use python for all my quick-n-dirt scripts, but i don't really like it as a language. It's well suited for this particular task, though.
[2016-03-02 18:09:44] Tulip_stefan : i rant about windows and crappy exchanges all the time too, but i still use that ;)
[2016-03-02 18:10:36] sleger : well looks like its where you make your money too...
[2016-03-02 18:11:18] sleger : selling btce when 3$ higher than bitfinex and buying back btce when 3$ lower than bitfinex would probably make the same % return than your strat, dont you think ?
[2016-03-02 18:11:57] Tulip_stefan : haven't tested. Don't think so.
[2016-03-02 18:12:57] sleger : That's a ~2% roundtrip, how many trades like this a year can one do ? I'd say 2 per month easy so 25% a year. Ok maybe not the same return then
[2016-03-02 18:13:17] splash : hi
[2016-03-02 18:13:25] sleger : plouf
[2016-03-02 18:23:38] rapidtrades : Tulip_stefan: btc-e metatrader works fine here
[2016-03-02 18:23:44] rapidtrades : had 1 disconnect last night
[2016-03-02 18:24:12] rapidtrades : but on okc app, btc-e doesnt show....looks like API f*Ck up
[2016-03-02 18:25:24] Tulip_stefan : looks like their server software was updated, and they somehow dont support old versions of openssl anymore. That's what i think anyway.
[2016-03-02 18:27:33] Tulip_stefan : It's fixed now but it still claims the exact same ssl version... maybe certs that where updated or something.
[2016-03-02 18:28:05] rapidtrades : apperently btc-e had 0.01 fees during the holidays...yet i still got charged 0.5% on mt4...like wtf
[2016-03-02 18:28:46] sleger : rapidtrades: grow up stop being a child ;)
[2016-03-02 18:29:32] rapidtrades : can't help it, im a bitcoiner
[2016-03-02 18:33:12] rapidtrades : sleger: when u traded options, did u sell or buy
[2016-03-02 18:37:34] Tulip_stefan : I'm just firing a shot in the dark here, but i'm fairly certain the answer is 'both' ..
[2016-03-02 18:39:26] rapidtrades : i meant initially...did he collect premium or what
[2016-03-02 18:39:42] sleger : rapidtrades: i still do
[2016-03-02 18:40:10] sleger : well both but mostly gamma short
[2016-03-02 19:36:00] gustavo7 : oh mETH y u so high
[2016-03-02 19:38:54] gustavo7 : OD OD !!
[2016-03-02 19:39:14] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 90 @ 0.02003
[2016-03-02 19:39:24] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.02014
[2016-03-02 19:39:47] Mangalica : ETHmonster still on rampage
[2016-03-02 19:40:18] gustavo7 : errbody in the club get fomo
[2016-03-02 19:41:48] jung1 : meth
[2016-03-02 19:48:22] Mangalica : ton of coins till 0.021 on polo
[2016-03-02 19:50:36] Mangalica : i hold my breath every time polo freezes for a couple of seconds, more often than not it's huge orders going through
[2016-03-02 19:51:48] gustavo7 : but dipped to 0.020 just now
[2016-03-02 19:52:18] Mangalica : 5-10% candles in either direction are not out of the question with ETH these days
[2016-03-02 19:52:50] Mangalica : .02 gone
[2016-03-02 19:54:05] gustavo7 : of course the flag had to touch it agin
[2016-03-02 19:59:54] Mangalica : 450 BTC left to borrow on polo.
[2016-03-02 20:00:16] gustavo7 : idk what that means, what is it usually?
[2016-03-02 20:00:54] Mangalica : the other day we had about 1500-2000, as someone big move in funds
[2016-03-02 20:01:14] Mangalica : it used to be about 100-300 before that
[2016-03-02 20:01:51] jung1 : finex $430
[2016-03-02 20:01:53] Mangalica : It's not dangerous yet
[2016-03-02 20:21:47] gustavo7 : what a nice bull flag
[2016-03-02 20:42:40] gustavo7 : really nice
[2016-03-02 20:50:51] zanza : wow ETH
[2016-03-02 20:54:23] jung1 : keep an eye at maidsafe coin also
[2016-03-02 20:54:38] justinlooking : holy crap
[2016-03-02 20:56:40] gustavo7 : no breakout
[2016-03-02 21:05:56] zanza : looks like a busted short squeeze on ETH
[2016-03-02 21:09:37] gustavo7 : new shorts coming in
[2016-03-02 21:09:54] habibi : this time is diffrent :D
[2016-03-02 21:10:16] habibi : lower high lower low
[2016-03-02 21:10:16] jung1 : why?
[2016-03-02 21:10:52] Mangalica : a lot of BTC returned to the lendbooks on polo
[2016-03-02 21:11:03] habibi : just joking, whales will fck shortes again if there are enough
[2016-03-02 21:16:23] habibi : and joke is real
[2016-03-02 21:16:34] habibi : woow:)
[2016-03-02 21:19:32] gustavo7 : someone btfd'd
[2016-03-02 21:24:02] splash : where do i isolate margin? i cant find the button
[2016-03-02 21:24:13] habibi : on old ui splash
[2016-03-02 21:24:14] justinlooking : splash: use the slider in the order pane
[2016-03-02 21:24:22] habibi : just anything beside cross is isolated
[2016-03-02 21:26:06] splash : thanks!
[2016-03-02 21:27:22] zanza : how come the ETH bots only quote in increments if .001?
[2016-03-02 21:35:01] sleger : cause that s what the guy who coded it decided
[2016-03-02 22:02:09] micmix : going to test famous "market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent" with ETH :-)
[2016-03-02 22:02:40] sleger : micmix: you saw, the FIX fut for 0kc is not quite ready yet
[2016-03-02 22:03:36] micmix : sleger: haven't tried trading yet, any problems?
[2016-03-02 22:03:55] sleger : yes, it works for spot but not for fut, i get session resets all the time
[2016-03-02 22:04:04] sleger : i emailed support and they said its not stable yet
[2016-03-02 22:04:53] micmix : Did they say how long before it's usable? I was planning to implement it next week
[2016-03-02 22:06:15] sleger : they did not, but just try market data first, even that is causing the issue and thats just a 2 lines change if you had already done spot
[2016-03-02 22:06:29] sleger : if it works for you let me know, and if I try again and it works i'll tell you
[2016-03-02 22:07:09] micmix : yeah, I will start with market data, easiest way to test
[2016-03-02 22:07:12] sleger : just need to change this basically : noRelatedSym.set(new Symbol("this_week")); noRelatedSym.set(new SecurityType("FUT")); noRelatedSym.set(new StrikeCurrency("btc_usd"));
[2016-03-02 22:10:15] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1000 @ 427.36
[2016-03-02 22:10:37] rapidtrades : eth guys selling again
[2016-03-02 22:11:33] micmix : thanks sleger, I looked through the docs, looks easy enough.
[2016-03-02 22:11:57] rapidtrades : bot makers sticking together....ugh
[2016-03-02 22:12:13] rapidtrades : licking each other buttholes
[2016-03-02 22:25:15] gustavo7 : BTC going the same way
[2016-03-02 22:26:25] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 49 @ 426.49
[2016-03-02 22:27:25] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 3309 @ 425.82
[2016-03-02 22:27:45] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 790 @ 515.97
[2016-03-02 22:40:25] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 200 @ 0.01921
[2016-03-02 22:40:25] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.01921
[2016-03-02 22:43:13] gustavo7 : huh 2830 CNY = 430 USD acc to google, something wrong?
[2016-03-02 22:43:25] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 666 @ 425.62
[2016-03-02 22:44:33] habibi : gustavo7: why wrong?
[2016-03-02 22:44:54] gustavo7 : because we are at 425 here
[2016-03-02 22:45:09] habibi : we dont follow china cny spots here
[2016-03-02 22:45:16] habibi : usd markets
[2016-03-02 22:45:52] gustavo7 : well the index prices yes
[2016-03-02 22:46:05] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 100 @ 513.25
[2016-03-02 22:48:42] gustavo7 : still wasn't (despite faked/zerofee-inflated volume) the chinese market a strong leader?
[2016-03-02 22:49:16] habibi : we dont care about leader in that terms as long as settlement goes by index price made by usd exchanges
[2016-03-02 22:49:25] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 600 @ 424.06
[2016-03-02 22:49:25] REKT : :btc: :soon: :toilet:
[2016-03-02 22:50:24] sleger : habibi: yes we care about leaders unless settlement happens now or v soon
[2016-03-02 22:51:38] habibi : sleger: not about china leaders in case of exact price, just about way of btc movement
[2016-03-02 22:51:42] gustavo7 : 13h is not so far away. i get it tough basically it's ok as long as the index is not changed up
[2016-03-02 22:52:57] gustavo7 : i remember trading on 796 which was denominated in USD and pretty spot on for some time but then they changed the index i guess or locked down the exchange rate so now it's still at >430 "USD"
[2016-03-02 22:53:25] sleger : gustavo7: 796 is based on cny price converted to usd
[2016-03-02 22:53:25] habibi : sleger: i mean what influenece on the 24h contracts price has 8 $ premium of china spot atm?
[2016-03-02 22:53:27] gustavo7 : (so i know 796 is 'overrated')
[2016-03-02 22:53:43] sleger : habibi: not the premium but the direction which is what he said
[2016-03-02 22:54:28] habibi : didnt notice he was talking about direction then
[2016-03-02 22:54:56] rapidtrades : cmon give us some discount bby
[2016-03-02 22:55:26] gustavo7 : did not intend to, imho the direction, shape of the drop is pretty the same
[2016-03-02 22:55:33] sleger : rapidtrades: no discount for children
[2016-03-02 22:55:50] rapidtrades : :(
[2016-03-02 22:59:33] gustavo7 : discount? i want my profit :P
[2016-03-02 22:59:52] rapidtrades : gustavo7: go eat ur vegetables first
[2016-03-02 23:00:42] gustavo7 : everyday
[2016-03-02 23:06:18] gustavo7 : well time to go sleep in fiat
[2016-03-02 23:06:33] habibi : in btc*
[2016-03-02 23:06:58] rapidtrades : okc charts gone to shit again
[2016-03-02 23:07:20] gustavo7 : kinda, i always hedge my account balance in XBU, effectively owning no btc at all
[2016-03-02 23:07:38] rapidtrades : that's really expensive hedge
[2016-03-02 23:07:46] rapidtrades : 0.6% per week
[2016-03-02 23:07:52] rapidtrades : or is it 0.5%
[2016-03-02 23:08:28] gustavo7 : sure but i add it to the trading costs, i just got to make some profit on XBT
[2016-03-02 23:09:49] gustavo7 : i'm permabear as long as scaling and usability is not fixed
[2016-03-02 23:09:55] rapidtrades : any thoughts on Taleb fellas?
[2016-03-02 23:12:30] gustavo7 : sry don't know what or who you mean
[2016-03-02 23:12:47] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-03-02 23:13:04] habibi : didnt read
[2016-03-02 23:13:19] rapidtrades : tldr?
[2016-03-02 23:14:15] habibi : did not read
[2016-03-02 23:19:33] rapidtrades : etherium needs to die
[2016-03-02 23:22:15] tscha : eth is great, just like the new UI
[2016-03-02 23:23:11] habibi : yea best one, love to cover order menu with chat
[2016-03-02 23:23:57] rapidtrades : optimal space usage
[2016-03-02 23:24:29] rapidtrades : i love the blank center as well, i can put my video players there and watch pron
[2016-03-02 23:25:10] habibi : actually thats a good idea, replace chat with youtube/redporn player - chooseable in settings
[2016-03-02 23:25:16] habibi : chart*
[2016-03-02 23:25:31] rapidtrades : yeah submit a ticker, feature request
[2016-03-02 23:25:53] habibi : to father Casper or uncle Sam?
[2016-03-02 23:26:07] rapidtrades : to Ms. Cheng
[2016-03-02 23:31:05] habibi : i am worried that response could be in that style https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFdyQxysQaA
[2016-03-02 23:50:55] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2000 @ 423.43
[2016-03-02 23:51:18] rapidtrades : we are f*cked
[2016-03-02 23:51:41] cryptostephen : lol
[2016-03-02 23:53:40] cryptostephen : wow mr 50,000 contracts getting filled
[2016-03-02 23:55:31] jung1 : eth is killing bitcoin
[2016-03-02 23:57:04] tscha : no.. bitcoin is killing itself
[2016-03-02 23:57:25] jung1 : oh yeah I forgot. Bitcoin is dead
[2016-03-02 23:57:37] jung1 : 87th time already
[2016-03-02 23:57:56] tscha : its not dead, but it has cancer
[2016-03-02 23:59:27] jung1 : we already like blood on market
[2016-03-02 23:59:37] jung1 : so cant complain
[2016-03-03 00:05:19] rapidtrades : guys don't panic
[2016-03-03 00:06:01] rapidtrades : if we all just bought a penny, bitcoin would go to $1,000
[2016-03-03 00:06:12] rapidtrades : and by all, i mean ofc the world
[2016-03-03 00:06:19] jung1 : ok you first
[2016-03-03 00:06:33] rapidtrades : already long, lot more then a penny :(
[2016-03-03 00:07:35] jung1 : whats your predictions about btc price in '16?
[2016-03-03 00:07:56] rapidtrades : no clue....maybe top $500-$600 then down
[2016-03-03 00:28:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 5000 @ 422.32
[2016-03-03 00:28:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 3332 @ 422.35
[2016-03-03 00:28:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1970 @ 421.17
[2016-03-03 00:28:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2000 @ 419.54
[2016-03-03 00:28:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2000 @ 419.76
[2016-03-03 00:28:36] REKT : Blood on the streets!
[2016-03-03 00:29:12] jung1 : ouch
[2016-03-03 00:29:31] tscha : <3
[2016-03-03 00:29:46] habibi : tscha: finally can rebuy lower :D?
[2016-03-03 00:30:37] habibi : 48h at premium is normal?
[2016-03-03 00:30:40] habibi : compared to 24
[2016-03-03 00:30:51] tscha : habibi: no, I will only rebuy if I see a change in bitcoin development/decisionmaking
[2016-03-03 00:31:10] rapidtrades : pffft
[2016-03-03 00:31:12] habibi : but u think classic is the anserw?
[2016-03-03 00:31:23] rapidtrades : this guy is a value investor in crypto-currencies
[2016-03-03 00:32:14] tscha : no, but a switch to classic would mean that bitcoin is capable of changing dev-teams, which is very important
[2016-03-03 00:32:39] rapidtrades : u mean changing the dev team that carried bitcoin to here
[2016-03-03 00:32:58] rapidtrades : cos they don't agree with ur imaginary problem?
[2016-03-03 00:33:09] tscha : gavin did more than every of the current core-devs, just sayin
[2016-03-03 00:33:22] rapidtrades : gavin is one man
[2016-03-03 00:33:46] rapidtrades : not a team
[2016-03-03 00:35:20] rapidtrades : 50k buy wall...now we're talking
[2016-03-03 00:35:27] rapidtrades : sledger coming to town!
[2016-03-03 00:37:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH16`: Sell 328 @ 428.52
[2016-03-03 00:37:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 100 @ 418.67
[2016-03-03 00:38:04] jung1 : hard dump
[2016-03-03 00:40:38] rapidtrades : you forgot this > was
[2016-03-03 00:45:10] rapidtrades : hold the line sledger
[2016-03-03 01:19:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 976 @ 420.77
[2016-03-03 01:30:09] rapidtrades : prolly low of the day....going to hit the sack
[2016-03-03 02:04:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 2500 @ 422.20
[2016-03-03 02:05:21] kingscrown : march 2016 reports on which coins to invest in https://twitter.com/kingscrownBTC/status/705207937317347329
[2016-03-03 03:06:06] j8 : kingscrown: have you met davidjames?
[2016-03-03 03:51:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2192 @ 421.10
[2016-03-03 05:02:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 400 @ 420.03
[2016-03-03 05:12:31] cryptostephen : what is the daily roll
[2016-03-03 05:18:38] j8 : tomorrow's daily contract
[2016-03-03 05:50:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 6 @ 419.03
[2016-03-03 05:53:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 1495 @ 417.81
[2016-03-03 06:16:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 40 @ 0.02082
[2016-03-03 06:21:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 2300 @ 0.02094
[2016-03-03 06:34:50] hashman : eth mooooonz
[2016-03-03 06:35:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 200 @ 0.02225
[2016-03-03 06:35:37] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2016-03-03 06:57:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 78 @ 0.02306
[2016-03-03 07:33:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 4 @ 419.88 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-03 07:40:15] zanza : wow ether
[2016-03-03 07:40:29] zanza : this shitcoin keeps on goign
[2016-03-03 08:09:48] rapidtrades : eth...disaster waiting to happen
[2016-03-03 08:29:26] rapidtrades : lol alex jones supports trump
[2016-03-03 10:35:38] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 2 @ 0.02326 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-03 10:35:38] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 958 @ 0.02346
[2016-03-03 10:50:02] Teddy76 : no short possible on ETH guys ;)
[2016-03-03 10:50:51] Mangalica : sure it is possible
[2016-03-03 10:51:15] rapidtrades : not rly
[2016-03-03 11:08:00] Teddy76 : yes possible but very risky
[2016-03-03 11:08:10] Teddy76 : i never taken the risk
[2016-03-03 11:09:19] Teddy76 : and regret that from first dump from 0.018 to 0.008 but it's very hard to find the good short entry
[2016-03-03 11:11:38] Mangalica : yeah it's not easy
[2016-03-03 11:37:02] Teddy76 : ETH / 24h +25% / 7d +50% / 30d +350% / 90d +1075%
[2016-03-03 11:37:11] Teddy76 : just insame
[2016-03-03 11:44:20] elmorte : Yeah, I sold mine for 54% profit, holding for just 3-4 days...
[2016-03-03 11:45:45] elmorte : Thanks @jung1 :)
[2016-03-03 11:47:29] elmorte : How do you justify buying to hodl, but then selling after/during a pump? Does it make economic sense?
[2016-03-03 11:51:11] Mangalica : idk i sold half from the presale way lower, the rest i'm hodling for now
[2016-03-03 11:51:27] Mangalica : the trader in me wants to flip my hodlings from time to time so it's a struggle
[2016-03-03 11:53:22] elmorte : Yeah... I guess if it crashes, I'll be validated and can buy back in. If it doesn't then I was wrong...
[2016-03-03 11:54:15] Mangalica : yeah all i'd do is sell to buy it back lower
[2016-03-03 11:54:24] Mangalica : but then i remember the LTC pump back in the day
[2016-03-03 11:54:37] Mangalica : 4 to 46 or so
[2016-03-03 11:54:48] splash : when i click the trading view full screen chart launch button from the ETH trade pane, it opens up BTC
[2016-03-03 11:55:51] Mangalica : also the BTC sentiment was a lot more bullish than nowadays. ETH is being looked at as a hedge, LTC wasn't
[2016-03-03 11:55:53] splash : "Open in new window" is the alt
[2016-03-03 11:57:00] splash : eth is not a scam coin i think. but people think its the next bitcoin, but i cant be, because when bitcoin came there was no competitor.
[2016-03-03 11:57:09] elmorte : splash: screenshot?
[2016-03-03 11:57:34] splash : screenshot of what?
[2016-03-03 11:57:42] elmorte : your error
[2016-03-03 11:58:03] splash : elmorte. i cant take a screen shot of it, because it opens up in a new tab
[2016-03-03 11:58:05] splash : https://www.bitmex.com/app/chart
[2016-03-03 11:58:12] splash : thats the link is opening up
[2016-03-03 11:58:45] splash : https://www.bitmex.com/app/chart/eth7d would be a more appopriate link I think, but thats now what its called
[2016-03-03 12:00:04] splash : when i was novice trader, these extreme price rises made me want to buy. no im filled with fear
[2016-03-03 12:01:40] elmorte : Yeah, the settlement just now was painful
[2016-03-03 12:02:06] elmorte : I was long at 428 :(
[2016-03-03 12:04:52] elmorte : XBT...guess you're talking ETH :)
[2016-03-03 12:05:31] elmorte : I know so little about eth, I figured I better cash out while the getting is good
[2016-03-03 12:09:13] splash : im talking about eth
[2016-03-03 12:10:10] splash : i know one or two things about the tech behind both eth and btc and in the long run I dont see eth succeeding
[2016-03-03 12:10:23] elmorte : How so?
[2016-03-03 12:11:04] splash : contracts running on ETH can easily migrate to the cheapest-and-safest blockchain, which will probably be a bitcoin side-chain thing running rootstock
[2016-03-03 12:11:16] splash : and they WILL do that because.... its cheaper and safer
[2016-03-03 12:11:49] splash : but thats in the future
[2016-03-03 12:11:57] splash : first eth will pump n dump plenty of times
[2016-03-03 12:12:19] splash : i dont think this rally is over yet
[2016-03-03 12:12:23] elmorte : Ok thanks, makes sense.
[2016-03-03 12:12:23] splash : still only second wave
[2016-03-03 12:13:10] splash : i would like to short the second wave, then wait for slingshot peaking out at third wave exhaustion point and then short HEAVILY
[2016-03-03 12:16:30] elmorte : I wouldn't know when's what
[2016-03-03 12:16:41] splash : thats the tricky part
[2016-03-03 12:16:45] splash : but look at the chart in daily
[2016-03-03 12:16:52] splash : do you see a wave up ?
[2016-03-03 12:16:56] splash : price moving up
[2016-03-03 12:17:00] splash : then going down
[2016-03-03 12:17:12] splash : look at daily but far back