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[2016-03-01 16:40:16] Mangalica : 17 being broken
[2016-03-01 16:40:23] Mangalica : gone
[2016-03-01 16:40:45] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 400 @ 0.01705
[2016-03-01 16:40:45] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1 @ 0.01705 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-01 16:40:56] Mangalica : is there news or is this just panic buying due to breakout?
[2016-03-01 16:41:53] jung1 : http://www.coindesk.com/microsoft-ethereum-startup-blockchain/
[2016-03-01 16:41:55] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.01728
[2016-03-01 16:41:55] REKT : All aboard the MOON train!
[2016-03-01 16:42:34] Mangalica : hmm
[2016-03-01 16:43:16] jung1 : https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/45shqc/boneheads_ethereum_news_to_come_updated/
[2016-03-01 16:43:30] jung1 : Homestead release Ethereum deemed stable, come the masses on March 14th, 2016
[2016-03-01 16:43:30] Mangalica : thanks
[2016-03-01 16:43:38] jung1 : I think we will go up until that
[2016-03-01 16:47:19] jung1 : 10k buy walls
[2016-03-01 16:52:03] laisee : FOMO, again
[2016-03-01 17:00:15] Mangalica : there's 2k BTC available to loan on poloniex sice yesterday, btw
[2016-03-01 17:00:43] Mangalica : to borrow i mean
[2016-03-01 17:00:51] habibi : thats much for polo?
[2016-03-01 17:00:54] habibi : or not much?
[2016-03-01 17:00:56] Mangalica : thats a ton
[2016-03-01 17:01:15] Mangalica : it howered around 100-300 for weeks
[2016-03-01 17:01:26] habibi : they made 7k volume in last 30 minutes...
[2016-03-01 17:01:30] habibi : not that much compared to that
[2016-03-01 17:01:30] Mangalica : then bam, out of nowhere 2k
[2016-03-01 17:01:53] habibi : but yea it can be fuel for people to go all in long now so they can be fucked later
[2016-03-01 17:01:59] Mangalica : compared to that it's no that much but i've seen polo run out of borrows plenty of times before
[2016-03-01 17:02:11] Mangalica : and go to 2% daily interest
[2016-03-01 17:02:23] habibi : is there a data about how much lendings are in progress?
[2016-03-01 17:02:31] Mangalica : i dont think so
[2016-03-01 17:03:22] habibi : how about shorts? how much eth to lend there is normally?
[2016-03-01 17:03:24] Mangalica : about 50-70k ETH returned to the lending books the past hour, i'm not shoced
[2016-03-01 17:03:44] habibi : thats quite enourmous part of that pump
[2016-03-01 17:03:49] Mangalica : idk about normal but plenty of times it was around 20-30k, now it's 100k
[2016-03-01 17:04:14] Mangalica : i didnt keep track of ETH as much as i observed BTC
[2016-03-01 17:22:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.01633
[2016-03-01 17:33:22] Mangalica : 500 BTC gone from loan book the past hour on polo
[2016-03-01 17:33:47] Mangalica : and ~5k ETH
[2016-03-01 17:34:17] habibi : so about 35k eth bought with that
[2016-03-01 17:38:39] trestres : lending till yesterday BTC was at 0.1-0.11 per day now is 0.13-0.14 lending ETH was less 0.04 now is more than 0.07
[2016-03-01 17:39:05] trestres : per cent of course
[2016-03-01 17:40:35] rapidtrades : it's getting annoying having all these algo traders chime in on everything
[2016-03-01 17:46:19] habibi : yep, bot city
[2016-03-01 17:48:50] tscha : rapidtrades: I am sure an experienced trader like you can easily outsmart those bots
[2016-03-01 17:50:18] habibi : its not about that, they just decrease violatility here and increase liq as well which should be good but u can increase ur profits on some high fomo'ers as well
[2016-03-01 17:50:43] Tulip_stefan : yeah... i keep getting complaints that i suck. It's really not that hard to outsmart me, you would think.
[2016-03-01 17:51:04] Tulip_stefan : increasing liquidity is not a good thing?
[2016-03-01 17:51:48] habibi : old good times when people were making here high premium or discout sometimes as well were better for some type of trades
[2016-03-01 17:52:06] habibi : and were fomoing hard coz liq was not that high
[2016-03-01 17:52:13] rapidtrades : making money by collecting the spread doesn't make u a trader and certainly doesn't mean ur classified to chime in on the index, or what works in trading
[2016-03-01 17:53:57] rapidtrades : saying things like the index converges with bitfinex/okc at least once a day....the whole point of an index should be to follow the market
[2016-03-01 17:54:16] rapidtrades : which okc/finex are, they're the overwhelming majority of volume
[2016-03-01 17:54:41] rapidtrades : it should follow them all the time....not just when prices spike due to fomo
[2016-03-01 17:54:51] rapidtrades : it's ridiculous
[2016-03-01 17:55:18] donkey : "making money by collecting the spread doesn't make u a trader" +1
[2016-03-01 17:56:03] tscha : collecting rapid's money makes me feel good though :)
[2016-03-01 17:56:04] rapidtrades : the index is so poorly constructed that the 3 low volume exchanges can drag down or up the index even though collectively they don't add up to half of okc/finex...they're being otuvoted by shits like itbit and bitstamp
[2016-03-01 17:56:41] donkey : tscha: it should! but it dont make u a trader ;)
[2016-03-01 17:56:49] tscha : I am fine with that :)
[2016-03-01 17:57:23] habibi : tscha: have u already bought back btc?
[2016-03-01 17:57:53] tscha : habibi: no, but I was close to
[2016-03-01 17:57:56] rapidtrades : why is itbit even in there, what a joke
[2016-03-01 17:58:08] habibi : tscha: so u are a trader! :D sell low, buy higher! :)
[2016-03-01 17:58:22] donkey : buy high sell higher
[2016-03-01 17:58:38] habibi : donkey: donkey donkey donkey donkey donkey
[2016-03-01 17:58:45] tscha : like adam back.... buy in at $1000+
[2016-03-01 17:59:05] habibi : he did? and what is more funny in story probally @gox?:D
[2016-03-01 17:59:08] Tulip_stefan : rapidtrades: If the index is consistently $2 below finex, i would argue that it does follow the market.
[2016-03-01 17:59:39] rapidtrades : it's $1 below both okc and finex
[2016-03-01 17:59:42] rapidtrades : not just finex
[2016-03-01 17:59:43] donkey : habibi: habibi habibi habibi habibi habibi habibi
[2016-03-01 17:59:55] habibi : donkey donkeeey donkeeey
[2016-03-01 18:00:17] donkey : donkeycoin
[2016-03-01 18:00:40] rapidtrades : if u add up the total volume of the 3 shits, they have 15k btc...okc is 17k and finex is 21k...
[2016-03-01 18:00:55] rapidtrades : so how does it makes sense to have them otuvote the largest exchanges
[2016-03-01 18:01:03] rapidtrades : outvote*
[2016-03-01 18:01:39] rapidtrades : coinbase's volume isn't even on par with btc-e...and it's still in the index
[2016-03-01 18:01:54] habibi : remember one day itbit had around 20% of influence for inder price, with same shit volume as now
[2016-03-01 18:02:15] tscha : habibi: yeah, satoshi emailed him in 2008 but he ignored bitcon until fall 2013 when price reached $1k rofl
[2016-03-01 18:02:21] tscha : a true visionary
[2016-03-01 18:02:34] rapidtrades : it's obvious that they do some democracy voting shit...like if 3 quote 432 and finex/okc are at 433....index will be closer to 432
[2016-03-01 18:02:42] j8 : on the xbx page you can see that the weight of finex went to 1% or less for a good part of the last week, at these times it was $2 to $3 above the rest
[2016-03-01 18:03:16] habibi : tscha: yea but he still is kinda genius, doesnt have to be a good trader :)
[2016-03-01 18:03:23] j8 : it's way too small of a divergence to deweight completely
[2016-03-01 18:04:05] rapidtrades : also it's the f*cking largest USD exchange by volume....who are u to say that's not the actual price of the market?
[2016-03-01 18:04:18] rapidtrades : index is dumb
[2016-03-01 18:05:28] rapidtrades : it's also much easier to manipulate in current state, because the 3 smaller exchange can outvote the two biggest ones
[2016-03-01 18:05:49] tscha : He may be smart, but not a genius... Satoshi was the genius, Back was the one dismissing his ideas.
[2016-03-01 18:05:50] rapidtrades : u only need 1/3 of the volume to move markets around settlement
[2016-03-01 18:07:03] habibi : tscha: Satoshi without Back's invetions wouldnt make btc
[2016-03-01 18:07:16] Tulip_stefan : rapidtrades: then do it.
[2016-03-01 18:08:04] habibi : all mistery about that index is that its acts kinda randomly, sometimes volume is main indicator sometimes price, sometimes nothing
[2016-03-01 18:08:50] habibi : like despite volume/price and inavtivity weighting it has some kind of random algo built in,which weightings use this time as major ones
[2016-03-01 18:09:01] rapidtrades : habibi: it tends to completely disregard once one exchange goes slightly off the rails
[2016-03-01 18:09:17] rapidtrades : like if finex is at premium, it can cut it out completely
[2016-03-01 18:09:28] rapidtrades : obv stupid cos it's the largest exchange
[2016-03-01 18:09:54] j8 : it almost certainly isn't random, its just some weird formula you don't know
[2016-03-01 18:10:29] rapidtrades : also like i said above, the 3 smaller exchanges can effetively form a shit-consensus....and the index will form around their price....the index will think okc/finex are the outliers trading $1-2 above
[2016-03-01 18:10:49] Tulip_stefan : just do it. ;)
[2016-03-01 18:11:01] rapidtrades : Tulip_stefan: i'll do ur mom, how's that
[2016-03-01 18:11:28] habibi : rapidtrades: keep the level
[2016-03-01 18:11:55] j8 : would still take hundreds of btc to manipulate, instead of thousands
[2016-03-01 18:12:10] tscha : habibi: it's like saying Bitcoin wouldn't be possible without Bittorrent (which is most likely more true)
[2016-03-01 18:12:36] rapidtrades : exactly @j8
[2016-03-01 18:13:04] habibi : tscha: without proof of work bitcoin wouldnt excist totally :) so do without p2p protocols
[2016-03-01 18:13:36] tscha : habibi: adam back didn't invent proof of work
[2016-03-01 18:13:54] habibi : https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Hashcash
[2016-03-01 18:14:12] tscha : he created hashcash with is *one implentation* that uses PoW to deter spam.. but the idea to deter spam by PoW came from someone else
[2016-03-01 18:14:20] tscha : Back used this idea and created hashcash
[2016-03-01 18:14:33] tscha : Here, paper from 1992: http://www.hashcash.org/papers/pvp.pdf
[2016-03-01 18:16:06] Tulip_stefan : I'm pretty sure that no one before satoshi has thought of auto-targetting difficulty. That and POW in a P2P network are the real achievements in bitcoin.
[2016-03-01 18:16:52] tscha : It's like someone invents the battery.. years later someone else (adam back) creates Duracell and then people say "without Duracell, electricity-powered cars would never exist"
[2016-03-01 18:16:56] Tulip_stefan : the crypto itself is not really impressive, although it it's easy to mess up (and he did, thanks to a bug in openSSL years later)
[2016-03-01 18:17:59] tscha : Satoshi did 99% of the genius work
[2016-03-01 18:18:56] tscha : the other 1% is shared among hundreds of contributors... people how worked on hashing/crypto, p2p networks etc.
[2016-03-01 18:23:51] habibi : tscha: agree, had bad info
[2016-03-01 18:25:49] tscha : funny thing is, adam back got rekt by Princeton, their University Press released a book about Bitcoin in which one Professor said "saying 'bitcoin is hashcash with inflation control' is like saying 'a tesla is just a battery on wheels'" :) :D :)
[2016-03-01 18:26:15] habibi : :D
[2016-03-01 19:25:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT48H`: Buy 1 @ 433.35 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-01 19:27:50] jung1 : we're going to 0.02?
[2016-03-01 19:53:59] jung1 : eth $ 578,104,957 market cap
[2016-03-01 19:54:02] jung1 : whoop whoop
[2016-03-01 19:57:37] jesperf : if we are you can thank me
[2016-03-01 19:57:40] jesperf : it's soaring because i shorted
[2016-03-01 19:58:22] jung1 : short it around $10
[2016-03-01 20:31:51] habibi : http://imgur.com/a/jHV3H thats quite bad attitude to clients Arthur
[2016-03-01 20:32:26] Tulip_stefan : Yeah i'm surprised as well. What he did is just flat-out illegal.
[2016-03-01 20:36:43] jung1 : habibi: co to za afera
[2016-03-01 20:37:27] habibi : http://i.imgur.com/slXvvUj.png thats what we will get if any bad things will happen to btc funds here right?
[2016-03-01 20:39:57] bachulamatt : new to this site, i trade futures on okcoin but never here, how is the liquidity
[2016-03-01 20:40:59] rapidtrades : its shit
[2016-03-01 20:41:43] bachulamatt : even for dayily
[2016-03-01 20:41:46] bachulamatt : ?
[2016-03-01 20:41:52] tscha : habibi: where you have the link to the convo between arthur and bitvix from?
[2016-03-01 20:41:57] rapidtrades : bachulamatt: https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/XBT24H
[2016-03-01 20:42:15] habibi : tscha: stakepool, ur welcome to join
[2016-03-01 20:42:17] rapidtrades : see recent trades
[2016-03-01 20:42:59] jung1 : bachulamatt: its not so bad
[2016-03-01 20:46:58] bachulamatt : how can i see how much contracts were traded during a specific period, when i hover over volume bar, it doesn't five a specific quantity
[2016-03-01 20:47:17] habibi : https://www.bitmex.com/app/faq
[2016-03-01 20:48:33] rapidtrades : bachulamatt: i just told u, see recent trades
[2016-03-01 20:49:37] bachulamatt : but isnt there any type of graph for that
[2016-03-01 20:49:52] rapidtrades : bachulamatt: k
[2016-03-01 20:50:03] rapidtrades : it's a table, not a graph
[2016-03-01 20:51:07] bachulamatt : i see that, usually exchanges show the volume on the bottom for each candle, was just asking if they saw graph for that
[2016-03-01 20:52:00] sleger : "bitcoiners are a bunch of children and they get treated that way right or wrong..."
[2016-03-01 20:52:18] sleger : thank god the CEO of nyse doesnt talk like that
[2016-03-01 20:52:42] rapidtrades : even I wouldn't say that...even in a private convo
[2016-03-01 20:53:30] v.rapTrading : yikes
[2016-03-01 20:53:32] sleger : rapidtrades: I know right, too polite for you ;)
[2016-03-01 20:54:16] rapidtrades : that pic guy was a complete jackass but arthur handled this all wrong
[2016-03-01 20:54:36] rapidtrades : we wanted $5 and public apology lol
[2016-03-01 20:54:48] rapidtrades : $5 per received email
[2016-03-01 20:55:45] habibi : https://blog.bitmex.com/crypto-trader-digest-29-feb/ he changed his name-> Casper whatever now :)
[2016-03-01 20:55:51] rapidtrades : u can't go shrekli until 1.you have skreli money 2. you get fired from ur job
[2016-03-01 20:57:49] rapidtrades : *Shkreli
[2016-03-01 20:58:02] rapidtrades : f*ck that guy name's hard
[2016-03-01 20:58:58] rapidtrades : who's Casper Chang
[2016-03-01 20:59:12] habibi : he renamed his name
[2016-03-01 21:01:07] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-03-01 21:01:31] habibi : used to be Arthur there :) same as in emails
[2016-03-01 21:01:32] rapidtrades : doesn't even sound like a real name....Casper Cheng lol
[2016-03-01 21:01:41] habibi : yep, CC guy
[2016-03-01 21:04:09] rapidtrades : support can u stop the 111111111111 spam on 48h? been going on for few days now
[2016-03-01 21:06:04] rapidtrades : any support here
[2016-03-01 21:11:59] sleger : you have to fly to the Seychelles to ask for support in person'
[2016-03-01 21:12:53] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-03-01 21:13:57] rapidtrades : why isn't finex matching me? i put in same price & loan duration
[2016-03-01 21:14:34] rapidtrades : whta a useless exchange man
[2016-03-01 21:43:58] zanza : how much does plane ticket to Seychelles cost?
[2016-03-01 21:44:32] sleger : if you live in seychelles about zero
[2016-03-01 21:44:39] sleger : stupid question stupid answer
[2016-03-01 21:44:45] gustavo7 : lol averaged my short of ETH before the dump to now to close without loss, nice try tough
[2016-03-01 21:45:34] zanza : wow i want to short ETH now
[2016-03-01 21:45:49] zanza : that spread though
[2016-03-01 21:45:59] zanza : 6%
[2016-03-01 21:46:10] zanza : each way, (12% total difference)
[2016-03-01 21:47:35] BTCVIX : rapidtrades: yeah I don't like fyr either -- not happy with how Arthur handle this all though
[2016-03-01 21:48:01] BTCVIX : very unprofessional and lacks the tact and measured approach of what I would expect from a startup CEO
[2016-03-01 21:48:22] habibi : insurance fund is now even more questionable, i like fyrr if we want to talk about our loves
[2016-03-01 21:49:27] BTCVIX : habibi: well I am trying to stay focused and just want them to release the data
[2016-03-01 21:49:28] tscha : BTCVIX: True. Leaking a private convo is not the gentlemen-way either though.
[2016-03-01 21:49:43] habibi : but yea thx Vix for showing that to community
[2016-03-01 21:49:44] gustavo7 : is there a insurance fund rumor, can someone link me to get in the loop?
[2016-03-01 21:50:04] BTCVIX : tscha: well saying "good luck suing me in seyselles" -- well reddit becomes the court then
[2016-03-01 21:50:10] BTCVIX : so I was just submitting discovery
[2016-03-01 21:50:30] BTCVIX : you can't go around running over members of the community like that, even as much as I don't like fyr even
[2016-03-01 21:50:41] BTCVIX : gustavo7: one moment
[2016-03-01 21:51:45] BTCVIX : gustavo7: https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/47886t/wchangout_29_bitmex_100x_vison_change_insurance/
[2016-03-01 21:54:09] tscha : BTCVIX: Okay, you had the convo with Arthur to leak it afterwards and make reddit the court. Gotcha. I just don't understand why you are still here then? Obviously you disagree with many of Bitmex' and Arthur's views.
[2016-03-01 21:54:15] tscha : Are you really going to trade here? Doesn't seem that way at all.
[2016-03-01 21:54:53] sleger : I've asked many times about that insurance fund as well, I want to know
[2016-03-01 21:55:08] gustavo7 : BTCVIX: thx
[2016-03-01 21:55:30] BTCVIX : tscha: actually I think BitMEX has done a great job on many things, I can disagree wtih conduct though and still appreciate their complishments -- the problem with people in bitcoin is they are so binary in thinking "all good all bad" -- no I see lots of good things here
[2016-03-01 21:55:38] BTCVIX : but the transparency was my first issue
[2016-03-01 21:55:44] BTCVIX : now this is just silly behavior
[2016-03-01 21:57:21] tscha : Yes, transparency is an issue, but I don't see any other exchange providing any transparency either, so I do not understand your quote about Bitmex: "The danger I pointed out though is that lack of transparency breeds doubt (especially since OKC lists their insurance fund openly as a standard) that doubt leads to people hypothesizing as to WHY is there a lack of transparency"
[2016-03-01 21:57:42] tscha : I mean, we already had that conversation basically and it didn't come to a result, so..
[2016-03-01 21:58:09] BTCVIX : that is an older post -- not from today
[2016-03-01 21:58:30] BTCVIX : but Arthur and mex try and hold themselves ABOVE OKC is my point
[2016-03-01 21:58:33] tscha : Yeah, you linked it 5 minutes ago :)
[2016-03-01 21:58:47] BTCVIX : that because that one guy asked what was going on
[2016-03-01 21:58:47] habibi : tscha: whats the problem if someone wants to push them to right direction for children aka users?
[2016-03-01 22:02:09] tscha : habibi: It's good. I am in the same boat, I want information about the fund, and pushing them to do that is totally ok. It just seems like a very one-sided bashing on Bitmex because *no btc derivative exchange in the world* is providing details on the insurance fund, yet I don't hear bitvix criticizing okc and their fantasy numbers that nobody can validate.
[2016-03-01 22:03:09] tscha : BTCVIX: I am curious though, do you plan to trade here in the future?
[2016-03-01 22:03:19] habibi : tscha: i don't care personally if he bashes only bitmex/all exchanges or whatever, doesnt care what his intentions are
[2016-03-01 22:03:54] BTCVIX : tscha: I have been testing out ether -- because right now I don't want to trade on polo or kraken and mex has the most leverage
[2016-03-01 22:04:12] BTCVIX : tbh I have been very busy with FX so haven't even traded btc in 2 weeks or so
[2016-03-01 22:04:27] BTCVIX : but I am here getting to know shit and have money on exchange
[2016-03-01 22:05:13] tscha : Cool. Yeah, hope that ETH volume stays that way or even gains more traction than it has already.
[2016-03-01 22:05:24] sleger : 0kcoin is providing details on insurance fund
[2016-03-01 22:05:48] habibi : u are MM'ing eth ?
[2016-03-01 22:05:57] tscha : habibi: no
[2016-03-01 22:06:29] habibi : why u cares then if its not confidetial? :)
[2016-03-01 22:06:41] BTCVIX : tscha: flibbr and I have openly criticized OKC though -- like when flibbr market closed 13 contracts and dropped the price $16
[2016-03-01 22:06:47] BTCVIX : it is all on youtube
[2016-03-01 22:06:50] BTCVIX : recorded forever
[2016-03-01 22:07:02] BTCVIX : so how can you say that to me @tscha
[2016-03-01 22:07:33] BTCVIX : OKC provided details about the insurance fund from day one and included the data of what they were adding when they changed to taking all collateral
[2016-03-01 22:08:02] BTCVIX : yeah I have no idea if they are skimming either but it is about PERCEPTION -- they are providing something and I can look and eye ball it and "feel" like is close to being right
[2016-03-01 22:08:04] tscha : sleger: Not really, they just put in some numbers nobody can validate. The only way to provide valuable information is to put in liquidation details, so users can check for themselves... everything else is meaningless
[2016-03-01 22:08:29] tscha : BTCVIX: I was talking about insurance details when talking about criticism
[2016-03-01 22:08:53] sleger : but the numbers make sense, it's way better than what's shown here
[2016-03-01 22:09:04] BTCVIX : well it is harder to dispute that data, versus NO DATA at all @tscha
[2016-03-01 22:09:21] BTCVIX : and I know your were about to paint me into some OKC loving corner @tscha
[2016-03-01 22:09:25] BTCVIX : I just got ahead of you
[2016-03-01 22:09:31] BTCVIX : I can give you the link to that vid as well
[2016-03-01 22:09:52] BTCVIX : CZ and Zane were pretty uncomfortable and they turned down the front running setting after that
[2016-03-01 22:10:09] tscha : BTCVIX: Sorry that I havent watched all your videos ;) I just saw the recent one about Bitmex and in there you were talking about the insurance fund for like 10 minutes and references OKC and their valuable insights many times
[2016-03-01 22:10:34] tscha : plus, in the link you posted 10 minutes ago you - again - compared the lack of transparency here to okc
[2016-03-01 22:11:05] sleger : most people seem to agree with btcvix
[2016-03-01 22:11:12] sleger : BTCVIX: you trade forex where?
[2016-03-01 22:11:38] BTCVIX : yeah the standard is OKC provides SOME data, can I not compare mex to OKC ?
[2016-03-01 22:11:55] BTCVIX : sleger: SFX
[2016-03-01 22:15:02] tscha : I'd rather see no data than data I cannot rely on. For me, this doesn't give me "a good feeling". But we seem to disagree fundamentally here so lets let it rest. At least we all agree on having full data of the stupid fund.
[2016-03-01 22:16:00] BTCVIX : tscha: I don't think we are too far apart tbh -- and I understand the point you are making, also sometimes you need to start with small things and get them to open up
[2016-03-01 22:16:32] sleger : also its easy to verify 0kcoin claims about their insurance fund so I dont agree with @tscha , as usual
[2016-03-01 22:17:22] BTCVIX : For example Cryptowatch guy was bitching about OKC.cn data issues -- Jack has long time not really stepped up but buried in this reddit post https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/487f82/anyone_else_notice_that_sfx_data_feed_for/d0hub9f
[2016-03-01 22:19:00] j8 : okc lists all the liquidations, yes you can verify the insurance contributions, and also the total loss, the only thing missing really is the total profit to verify the clawback %
[2016-03-01 22:19:53] habibi : http://i.imgur.com/UScohN6.png
[2016-03-01 22:20:00] habibi : best pr is happening right now
[2016-03-01 22:20:18] Tulip_stefan : all pr is good pr.
[2016-03-01 22:22:42] sleger : "While two of their principals are American (the legality of Americans operating an offshore casino is also an issue worth looking into), the company is based in Seychelles, which protects them from a lot of accountability" is this why there hasnt been any admin online recently ?
[2016-03-01 22:23:23] habibi : eh, anyone did withdraws last days?
[2016-03-01 22:24:04] BTCVIX : habibi: why are there issues with withdrawals now ?
[2016-03-01 22:24:14] habibi : just asking
[2016-03-01 22:25:20] BTCVIX : I am sure withdrawals are operating just fine
[2016-03-01 22:25:44] micmix : habibi: I did withdrawal 2 days ago, no issues
[2016-03-01 22:25:56] habibi : good
[2016-03-01 22:29:41] rapidtrades : habibi: u leaving?
[2016-03-01 22:30:16] habibi : nah, but will trade more time on okc probally
[2016-03-01 22:30:54] habibi : waiting for any reliable response about ins fund from parrents
[2016-03-01 22:32:26] justinlooking : /me ponders bitmex warrant canary
[2016-03-01 22:34:27] rapidtrades : habibi: futures or spot
[2016-03-01 22:34:46] habibi : futures on cross
[2016-03-01 22:35:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 30 @ 0.01748
[2016-03-01 22:36:34] rapidtrades : habibi: i like spot more...can't beat no fees
[2016-03-01 22:44:17] tscha : j8: Hmm, where can you see contribution to the insurance fund?
[2016-03-01 22:44:53] rapidtrades : tscha: there's an insurance tab on okc
[2016-03-01 22:45:20] Iitecamel : http://i.imgur.com/e9J5wvD.png dank memes
[2016-03-01 22:45:41] sleger : tscha: even if you cant see contributions you can still find out if the insurance fund number is true or not, use your imagination
[2016-03-01 22:45:45] j8 : tscha: you would add up the maintenance margin from all the filled liquidations they list. it's 1% of notional
[2016-03-01 22:45:54] j8 : oh sorry sleger i ruined it
[2016-03-01 22:46:06] sleger : damn again !!
[2016-03-01 22:46:38] sleger : i dont think you can do what you're saying anyways
[2016-03-01 22:46:38] rapidtrades : j8: dam that's a good tip...
[2016-03-01 22:46:43] Iitecamel : Found the insurance fund children http://i.imgur.com/tKyObkz.png
[2016-03-01 22:47:28] rapidtrades : sleger: don't be a Negative Nancy sleger
[2016-03-01 22:48:19] rapidtrades : we've had very few margin calls since okc settlement
[2016-03-01 22:48:23] sleger : j8: the contribution of a liq order to the fund is not 1%, it depends how far the bid or ask was compared to liq price
[2016-03-01 22:48:27] tscha : j8: I don't get it.
[2016-03-01 22:48:43] sleger : i dont think it works anyways
[2016-03-01 22:49:00] tscha : We need information where the system took over the liquidation and where it gets rid of it.
[2016-03-01 22:49:01] habibi : actually beside ins fund, manual forced liqs are fishy to me as well as they can trade on it and i bet they're
[2016-03-01 22:49:12] j8 : that's true sleger
[2016-03-01 22:49:15] Iitecamel : It's just business guys http://i.imgur.com/2art6tE.png
[2016-03-01 22:49:26] rapidtrades : sleger: ah fair point
[2016-03-01 22:49:29] sleger : you can still know if they are cheating with the insurance fund numbers
[2016-03-01 22:49:38] rapidtrades : sleger: how
[2016-03-01 22:49:42] sleger : but as j8 said you cant know for sure the % clawback
[2016-03-01 22:49:49] sleger : rapidtrades: and kiddo that's your homework for tomorrow
[2016-03-01 22:50:01] sleger : all these bitcoiners are children !
[2016-03-01 22:50:07] rapidtrades : i don't need to know that much :)
[2016-03-01 22:50:44] rapidtrades : i'm so bored, thinking about scalping
[2016-03-01 22:50:50] tscha : "you can still know if they are cheating with the insurance fund numbers" explain
[2016-03-01 22:51:24] sleger : homework, answer tomorrow
[2016-03-01 22:51:34] Iitecamel : 0Kcoin more transparent than Bitmex; who is the woodchipper now
[2016-03-01 22:52:48] rapidtrades : Arthur's attitude explains why they didn't give a shit when 90% complained about the UI
[2016-03-01 22:52:56] tscha : sleger: god you are a kid..
[2016-03-01 22:53:12] rapidtrades : they're just whiny kids, they'll get used to it
[2016-03-01 22:53:38] Iitecamel : u want a priest rapid? he is a businessman not priest, child
[2016-03-01 22:54:04] rapidtrades : Iitecamel: who the f*Ck are u pleb
[2016-03-01 22:54:18] tscha : Maybe j8 can explain?
[2016-03-01 22:54:30] rapidtrades : summoning me like that is a great way to get on my shit list, ,forever
[2016-03-01 22:55:39] Iitecamel : im your father
[2016-03-01 22:56:02] BTCVIX : even in kindergarden they give kids treats from time to time -- at mex you get nothing
[2016-03-01 22:57:26] rapidtrades : there were some small changes since i got here....olike the clawback %
[2016-03-01 22:57:48] rapidtrades : the new orders are nice but I'd rather have the old UI
[2016-03-01 22:58:23] rapidtrades : dunny why they removed litecoin
[2016-03-01 22:59:08] rapidtrades : they were gonna remove bitcoin hedging but they kept it
[2016-03-01 22:59:38] j8 : everythings changed completely a bunch of times since i've been here.
[2016-03-01 22:59:42] rapidtrades : trying to think of any positive changes lol
[2016-03-01 23:00:09] Iitecamel : This is how they settle contracts in Seychelles https://c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000nYajpab4xb4/s/860/860/JNGX0653-CLEAN-8bit.jpg
[2016-03-01 23:00:30] rapidtrades : noone's clicking on ur links
[2016-03-01 23:02:47] rapidtrades : i guess the daily roll is an improvment...although it seems to have made arbing worse
[2016-03-01 23:03:14] rapidtrades : the fomo is split now
[2016-03-01 23:04:02] micmix : sleger, tscha, BITCVIX, j8: I just got an email from Wally, they are adding full liquidation info to websocket stream. It's going to be very easy to calculate PNL on liq orders and estimate total insurance fund. I might add it to the REKT bot if I have time.
[2016-03-01 23:04:34] rapidtrades : bit upset i wasn't included in that mesaage
[2016-03-01 23:04:52] habibi : micmix: so they will show us past data about all liqs?
[2016-03-01 23:05:15] micmix : it was always possible but not convenient bc you had to poll for info and hope you didn't miss when the liq order was moved
[2016-03-01 23:05:34] micmix : habibi: no, no past data is available
[2016-03-01 23:06:02] habibi : micmix: and they won't show historical data at all?
[2016-03-01 23:07:40] sleger : and the insurance fund starts at -10k btc? :p
[2016-03-01 23:07:52] tscha : micmix: That's amazing. Thanks 4 info.
[2016-03-01 23:08:28] tscha : They better spend the current fund on lapdances before the change goes online.
[2016-03-01 23:08:46] habibi : fees will go up then, no worries
[2016-03-01 23:09:00] micmix : habibi: who knows, they might decide to show PNL on past liq orders. showing full history will be difficult bc usually liq orders are moved several time before they are cleared
[2016-03-01 23:09:29] sleger : has anyone noticed that you cant isolate margin on 7D ?
[2016-03-01 23:10:01] habibi : micmix: whats the problem in showing all partially or full filled liqs price and qty?
[2016-03-01 23:10:28] habibi : sleger i just went with 1 con
[2016-03-01 23:10:38] micmix : all I can show is PNL on liq orders, you'll have to use your imagination to find out how much was for spent for lapdances :-)
[2016-03-01 23:11:17] micmix : sleger: have you tried isolate margin using API? I'm still not clear how to do that using new UI
[2016-03-01 23:11:44] Iitecamel : i think 40% coke 60% hookers is the likely split
[2016-03-01 23:12:01] sleger : micmix: no, i meant its removed from the UI, and it was already like that on old UI
[2016-03-01 23:12:24] j8 : sleger: only on `XBU7D`?
[2016-03-01 23:12:41] sleger : i think they try to limite people going on max leverage on 7d since they have liability on it, but then one should just create another account put the min margin and go ahead, so thats pretty stupid
[2016-03-01 23:12:43] sleger : j8: yes
[2016-03-01 23:12:59] j8 : yeah you never could isolate on xbu series
[2016-03-01 23:13:09] rapidtrades : yeah ^
[2016-03-01 23:13:13] rapidtrades : wtf sledger
[2016-03-01 23:13:25] habibi : typical btc child
[2016-03-01 23:13:26] micmix : oh, XBU contracts is not on the DPE system
[2016-03-01 23:13:27] sleger : i know, im just pointing out that its a bid shady as well
[2016-03-01 23:13:30] rapidtrades : guess he's never traded it
[2016-03-01 23:13:40] sleger : it seemed a good time to let it all out
[2016-03-01 23:13:50] rapidtrades : ahahaah
[2016-03-01 23:14:04] rapidtrades : let's all air our grievances
[2016-03-01 23:14:47] habibi : micmix: any idea why they rather want to use u to communicate with us then chat here?
[2016-03-01 23:15:07] rapidtrades : they're hiding
[2016-03-01 23:15:20] rapidtrades : haven't seen support here in days
[2016-03-01 23:15:30] j8 : sleger: they'll drain your account before they cover your loss on xbu series, thats in the terms
[2016-03-01 23:16:04] rapidtrades : they made themselves scarce after the UI f*Ck up
[2016-03-01 23:16:17] rapidtrades : prolly gulity with shame
[2016-03-01 23:17:45] sleger : j8: yes but my point was that any rule that can be circumvented is a bad rule, and this one can (via new account with small margin)
[2016-03-01 23:19:02] rapidtrades : sleger: the advantage to doing that is rather small. leverage for those contarcts is 5/1
[2016-03-01 23:19:34] rapidtrades : prices have to crash over $100 before using isolate margin makes sense
[2016-03-01 23:20:03] rapidtrades : or $80..or whatever
[2016-03-01 23:20:09] habibi : rapidtrades: they still won't as there is downsize limit on xbu
[2016-03-01 23:20:56] rapidtrades : no i mean his suggestion that one could circumvent the rules is purely academic
[2016-03-01 23:21:55] rapidtrades : no practical use
[2016-03-01 23:24:31] sleger : then why not allowing people to isolate
[2016-03-01 23:24:47] sleger : its just one of these things that make look bad / cheap
[2016-03-01 23:26:20] rapidtrades : guess they want the entire account to be subject to clawback if needed
[2016-03-01 23:26:32] rapidtrades : well not clawback but u know what i mean :)
[2016-03-01 23:28:43] rapidtrades : using a separate account for the weekly is not the worse idea, especially since liquidations over there are on market
[2016-03-01 23:29:17] rapidtrades : in theory an idiot could fat finger that shit
[2016-03-01 23:29:59] rapidtrades : although it would still take a really big move to get marginned with 5:1, even if ur using the max
[2016-03-01 23:35:07] BitMEX_Greg : Hey guys, just wanted to respond to the 'lack' of support on the trollbox here recently. Sam, Wally and Arthur are all in Asia right now so I am the only one covering the US timezone and unfortunately I don't have the questions to most of your answers. If any of you have an urgent support issue then I suggest to raise a ticket and I can assign it the respective team member. You should find Sam and Wall or Arthur back on the chat when Asia opens. Cheers
[2016-03-01 23:37:52] habibi : BitMEX_Greg: are u child as well?
[2016-03-01 23:39:21] tscha : Iitecamel == fyrstikken?
[2016-03-02 00:06:01] micmix : habibi: I'm just a trader here, same as you. I don't have any special access to the BitMEX guys. I thought Sam and Wally took a break, they've been working really hard last couple months. Sam was here for 14+ hours
[2016-03-02 00:11:07] gustavo7 : lol just saw a fyrstikken tweet promoting a bitcoin gambling site
[2016-03-02 00:11:55] gustavo7 : same site as adamguerbez did yesterday
[2016-03-02 00:49:11] rapidtrades : bull or bear fellas? next 24 hrs?
[2016-03-02 00:55:30] micmix : rapidtrades: top 10 okc positions not that large and stable around 35k for the past few day. I'd say no big moves until settlement
[2016-03-02 00:55:47] zanza : BitMEX_Greg: where do babies come from ?
[2016-03-02 00:56:59] BitMEX_Greg : zanza: might need to raise a support ticket for that one
[2016-03-02 00:57:28] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1000 @ 434.52
[2016-03-02 00:57:34] sleger : zanza: why are you asking mommy, that's a question for daddy
[2016-03-02 00:59:36] rapidtrades : yeah I haven't seen daddy Arthur around lately
[2016-03-02 01:00:10] rapidtrades : prolly out with Ms. Cheng again
[2016-03-02 01:00:28] habibi : ms Cheng name reminds me guy from Hangover movie
[2016-03-02 01:00:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 411 @ 435.06
[2016-03-02 01:01:01] rapidtrades : finex 436
[2016-03-02 01:01:06] rapidtrades : this could be the night fellas!
[2016-03-02 01:01:23] rapidtrades : although I've been saying that every night this past week
[2016-03-02 01:02:23] rapidtrades : the next amercian election will be such a joke....Trump vs Clinton lol
[2016-03-02 01:02:46] jung1 : Trump vs goldman sachs
[2016-03-02 01:02:56] rapidtrades : deep, yo
[2016-03-02 01:16:43] BitMEX_Sam : BTCVIX: micmix: https://www.bitmex.com/app/insuranceHistory
[2016-03-02 01:16:58] BitMEX_Sam : That has been live for a day now, we've just been busy and haven't announced it
[2016-03-02 01:17:08] BitMEX_Sam : The liquidation websocket is also already live.
[2016-03-02 01:17:28] rapidtrades : 6 btc...where's the rest?
[2016-03-02 01:18:06] BitMEX_Sam : As for us not being around much, it's exactly as Greg said, we're out of town and taking a much-needed break. I made nearly a thousand commits last week. There were an incredible number of under-the-hood changes that made the new UI possible and paves the way for tons of new features
[2016-03-02 01:18:34] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: We use the fund, that's how we've traded 100x without DPE for months
[2016-03-02 01:18:47] rapidtrades : okay
[2016-03-02 01:30:08] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: thanks Sam, very nice! yeah, I thought so, you guys have been working really hard. we appreciate all your hard work even though some ppl only post to complain ;-)
[2016-03-02 01:30:54] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks micmix
[2016-03-02 01:30:55] rapidtrades : micmix: hard work is pointless for its own sake
[2016-03-02 01:31:40] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: If you took the time to understand our reasoning and you had an understanding of what underlies a project of this nature, you would have a different opinion.
[2016-03-02 01:32:11] rapidtrades : there's widespread agreement that the new UI is a mistake...we'll never get used to it, it doesn't make sense
[2016-03-02 01:32:32] micmix : rapidtrades: you don't like new order types, hidden orders etc? I understand that new UI is controversial but everything else is very useful
[2016-03-02 01:32:33] BitMEX_Sam : If by widespread you mean mostly you, and 3-4 users, yes, there is some resistance
[2016-03-02 01:32:43] rapidtrades : doesn't look like any other trading interface
[2016-03-02 01:32:51] BitMEX_Sam : But there are many others who like it, and regardless, it's not changing back because it is part one of a series of major changes that greatly enhance the utility of the site
[2016-03-02 01:33:06] BitMEX_Sam : It's actually very similar in style to Coinbase and Quoine's controls
[2016-03-02 01:33:17] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: noone trades on coinbase here
[2016-03-02 01:33:40] BitMEX_Sam : First of all, you have no way of knowing that, and second, that's not at all the point, you said that no other interface uses this style and that's simply not true
[2016-03-02 01:33:56] rapidtrades : no exchange that matters
[2016-03-02 01:34:15] rapidtrades : controls have to be centered
[2016-03-02 01:35:43] rapidtrades : it's not accurate to say only 3-4 ppl hate it, the vast majority of posters in chat don't like it....guess u could make a case that there's a silent majority that doesn't come here
[2016-03-02 01:35:46] rapidtrades : but I doubt that's the case
[2016-03-02 01:36:27] BitMEX_Sam : It's not changing - we are going to add much more customization to the main pane but the order controls are staying in the sidebar
[2016-03-02 01:36:41] rapidtrades : that's fine
[2016-03-02 01:36:48] BitMEX_Sam : If you have an issue with it, I'm sorry, but that's the direction we've chosen so you can either get used to it or move on
[2016-03-02 01:36:52] rapidtrades : ppl complain about things that never change all the time
[2016-03-02 01:37:25] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: so historical data and past liqs will be shown as well right :)?
[2016-03-02 01:37:28] zanza : new UI is great
[2016-03-02 01:37:46] zanza : what don't you like about it rapidtrades?
[2016-03-02 01:37:53] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: For now the style of liquidations has not changed, only live liquidations are shown through to HTTP call
[2016-03-02 01:37:58] rapidtrades : zanza: lol
[2016-03-02 01:38:00] BitMEX_Sam : And of course the websocket simply shows data as it happens
[2016-03-02 01:38:31] habibi : thats not the anserw actually, dont treat us as child :(
[2016-03-02 01:38:42] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: how do I switch particular position to isolated margin? just move the slider from cross?
[2016-03-02 01:38:50] sleger : yep
[2016-03-02 01:39:36] micmix : oh wow, there is no confirmation
[2016-03-02 01:39:45] rapidtrades : oh wow
[2016-03-02 01:39:45] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: If you make things movable in the window, why not the buy sell too ? I agree it s better in the center, thats where my mouse hovers is most of the time and I want to click on buy sell without having to go to a corner
[2016-03-02 01:40:06] sleger : micmix: try it on iphone, I almost margin called myself twice by mistake
[2016-03-02 01:40:08] rapidtrades : sleger: its not changing kiddo, move on
[2016-03-02 01:40:49] micmix : sleger: I'll stick with the button on my own dashboard, thanks :-)
[2016-03-02 01:41:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 98 @ 0.01724
[2016-03-02 01:42:51] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: so any chance for full historical data of liqs and insurance balance?
[2016-03-02 01:45:24] habibi : eh f()ck it
[2016-03-02 01:50:24] BTCVIX : BitMEX_Sam: nice job on publishing the Insurance Fund data
[2016-03-02 01:53:18] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: How is that not exactly the answer you were looking for?
[2016-03-02 01:53:31] habibi : yes/no?
[2016-03-02 01:53:38] BitMEX_Sam : I said it has not changed
[2016-03-02 01:53:42] BitMEX_Sam : which means no, there is not historical data
[2016-03-02 01:53:55] BitMEX_Sam : And the websocket shows inserts, updates, and deletes as they happen
[2016-03-02 01:54:57] habibi : k
[2016-03-02 02:03:38] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM16`: Buy 1 @ 537.14 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-02 02:25:21] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: any change to add withable balance as it used to be in old ui next to total balance on basic ui?
[2016-03-02 03:03:41] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: Yeah, I can put that back in - we were going for simplicity but I see how it could be useful
[2016-03-02 03:11:17] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: Note you can also see that number in the order controls below Order Value
[2016-03-02 05:49:19] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 1 @ 432.98 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-02 05:50:29] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 164 @ 432.52
[2016-03-02 08:11:40] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 500 @ 523.80
[2016-03-02 08:36:40] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2241 @ 431.54
[2016-03-02 08:40:15] rapidtrades : well good f*Cking morning fellas
[2016-03-02 08:44:40] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: smone is spamming the orderbook of 48h with 1s past few days
[2016-03-02 10:05:22] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: Will keep an eye on it
[2016-03-02 10:30:55] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: a weird bug on 48h
[2016-03-02 10:31:10] rapidtrades : do u see that 1001 bid distorting the orderbbook?
[2016-03-02 10:31:22] BitMEX_Sam : No distortion
[2016-03-02 10:31:35] BitMEX_Sam : Could you take a screenshot?
[2016-03-02 10:31:38] rapidtrades : is it cos its mine
[2016-03-02 10:31:58] rapidtrades : like it takes up 2x the normal space
[2016-03-02 10:33:08] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm. Basic or Advanced?
[2016-03-02 10:33:13] rapidtrades : basic
[2016-03-02 10:33:21] elmorte : Looks fine here
[2016-03-02 10:33:42] BitMEX_Sam : You might be seeing the red `x` that cancels the level
[2016-03-02 10:34:03] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: What's the significance of bold orders?
[2016-03-02 10:34:10] rapidtrades : they're big
[2016-03-02 10:34:42] elmorte : They're equal to a lot of normal font orders
[2016-03-02 10:34:52] elmorte : 23 is big?
[2016-03-02 10:34:52] rapidtrades : idk
[2016-03-02 10:35:09] rapidtrades : could be if we're talking about penis size
[2016-03-02 10:35:16] BitMEX_Sam : elmorte: The top level is bolded
[2016-03-02 10:35:33] HirschArny : eth to da moon
[2016-03-02 10:35:54] BitMEX_Sam : elmorte: Otherwise, you might be seeing your own orders
[2016-03-02 10:37:02] elmorte : No, not my own...it's the highest bid and 1st and 5th ask. So it's purely aesthetic?
[2016-03-02 10:37:17] rapidtrades : looks like it yes
[2016-03-02 10:38:09] BitMEX_Sam : elmorte: That's just the BBO
[2016-03-02 10:38:11] BitMEX_Sam : Best bid/offer
[2016-03-02 10:38:21] BitMEX_Sam : Purely aesthetic to show you what the best prices are
[2016-03-02 10:38:38] BitMEX_Sam : By the way, some customization changes coming up in Testnet
[2016-03-02 10:38:45] BitMEX_Sam : https://testnet.bitmex.com/app/trade/XBT24H
[2016-03-02 10:38:52] BitMEX_Sam : In the advanced UI you can now move/resize widgets
[2016-03-02 10:39:34] elmorte : Cool, cheers
[2016-03-02 10:39:48] elmorte : How long you in HK for?
[2016-03-02 11:18:47] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: You can hire me as support on trollbox
[2016-03-02 11:26:45] habibi : kid won't be good support for other kids
[2016-03-02 11:27:01] habibi : kurde dalej paczka mi nie przyszła :(
[2016-03-02 11:27:23] habibi : ile Ci szły paczki od vendorów z eu?
[2016-03-02 11:27:27] jung1 : uwazaj sobie młody człowieku
[2016-03-02 11:27:59] habibi : jung1: ? używam tylko słóów Athura starcze
[2016-03-02 11:28:17] jung1 : a co to za afera tam byla
[2016-03-02 11:28:22] jung1 : bo w sumie nie śledziłem
[2016-03-02 11:28:24] habibi : a przeczytałeś?
[2016-03-02 11:28:31] jung1 : tam jednego screena jakiegos
[2016-03-02 11:28:36] jung1 : ale sie nie zgłębiałem
[2016-03-02 11:29:23] habibi : no to tyle :), Artur użył zdjęcia fyrrs w swoim newsleterze bez pytania o zgodę, potem ta rozmowa z nim, i jego stosunek do klientów możesz tam wyczytać
[2016-03-02 11:31:01] jung1 : pojebało sie od hajsu
[2016-03-02 11:31:02] jung1 : hehe
[2016-03-02 11:31:35] habibi : kurwa zagadalem sie i wyszlo mi jajko sadzone na twardo :D
[2016-03-02 11:35:07] jung1 : chrupkie
[2016-03-02 11:35:15] jung1 : ja ostatnio kupiłem sobie taką patelnie
[2016-03-02 11:35:19] jung1 : na 4 jajka
[2016-03-02 11:35:42] jung1 : takie okrągłe zagłębienia są gdzie wbijasz jajko i sie robi taki burger
[2016-03-02 11:35:44] jung1 : zajebiste
[2016-03-02 11:35:48] jung1 : idealna na kanapeczke
[2016-03-02 11:35:54] habibi : coś kojarze :)
[2016-03-02 11:40:34] jung1 : uruchomiłem lending bota na polo
[2016-03-02 11:40:48] jung1 : niech tam eth pracują
[2016-03-02 11:40:51] jung1 : sobie ładnie
[2016-03-02 11:51:56] jung1 : damn eth
[2016-03-02 11:52:01] jung1 : everyday same scenerio
[2016-03-02 11:52:03] jung1 : love it
[2016-03-02 11:52:05] jung1 : ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2016-03-02 11:52:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 180 @ 0.01819