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[2016-01-16 20:11:41] jung1 : still cheap
[2016-01-16 20:11:44] jung1 : good move
[2016-01-16 20:11:59] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 100 @ 385.93
[2016-01-16 20:12:02] jung1 : h16 will hit easy 500 next week
[2016-01-16 20:12:22] zanza : you sound like you are selling something jung1 :)
[2016-01-16 20:13:07] jung1 : im selling happiness
[2016-01-16 20:13:25] jung1 : look for me on openbazar in LSD section
[2016-01-16 20:13:37] zanza : :)
[2016-01-16 20:14:50] djuan : jung1: lol I'm getting some too
[2016-01-16 20:15:41] jung1 : wtf bitcoin
[2016-01-16 20:15:49] jung1 : 400-350-400 in one day
[2016-01-16 20:15:54] jung1 : <3
[2016-01-16 20:18:28] Swedishnut : yup 1 guy leaving BTC isn't a killshot. So many more interested than those frustrated
[2016-01-16 20:22:44] djuan : https://twitter.com/BTCDJS/status/688412513797550080
[2016-01-16 20:22:53] djuan : this is very funny
[2016-01-16 20:26:02] sleger : maybe not for jews
[2016-01-16 20:27:20] djuan : no i suppose not.
[2016-01-16 20:30:00] jung1 : we're growing too fast
[2016-01-16 20:30:19] jung1 : a little correction before 400?
[2016-01-16 20:31:08] tscha : hopefully
[2016-01-16 20:31:23] gouda : nah
[2016-01-16 20:31:36] gouda : we didn't get a correction that $100+ sell off
[2016-01-16 20:31:49] gouda : i think we are going to go test 400
[2016-01-16 20:32:04] gouda : and either fail and new low coming and 300 next
[2016-01-16 20:32:11] gouda : or megabull
[2016-01-16 20:32:20] gouda : either way
[2016-01-16 20:32:27] gouda : good money to be had :D
[2016-01-16 20:34:22] jung1 : yep
[2016-01-16 20:34:29] jung1 : up or down
[2016-01-16 20:34:34] jung1 : still making money
[2016-01-16 20:34:40] jung1 : ALL HAIL BITMEX
[2016-01-16 20:38:12] habibi : nice swings on "fair" price on m16:D 60 dollars or even more
[2016-01-16 20:39:16] djuan : small correction incoming
[2016-01-16 20:40:29] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 74 @ 384.88
[2016-01-16 20:44:10] jung1 : not yet
[2016-01-16 21:02:00] djuan : she wouldn't just drop straight down would she?
[2016-01-16 21:15:10] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1500 @ 378.72
[2016-01-16 21:18:10] jung1 : ok Im done for today
[2016-01-16 21:18:15] jung1 : see ya
[2016-01-16 21:26:01] itmikeyg : do you guys know where i can see charts for bitumen?
[2016-01-16 21:26:04] itmikeyg : bitmex**
[2016-01-16 21:26:33] j8 : tradingview or cryptowat.ch
[2016-01-16 21:26:39] itmikeyg : thank you Sur
[2016-01-16 21:27:28] j8 : itmikeyg: np, https://www.tradingview.com/chart/A0lh95W1/
[2016-01-16 21:28:20] j8 : whoops that didn't work out
[2016-01-16 21:28:31] itmikeyg : i think it worked for me...
[2016-01-16 21:28:51] itmikeyg : nevermind
[2016-01-16 21:29:22] j8 : anyways if you search bitmex you'll find them
[2016-01-16 21:30:18] itmikeyg : ok cool
[2016-01-16 21:53:36] zanza : is someone running a 500 bot on the M16
[2016-01-16 21:55:35] sleger : yes
[2016-01-16 23:18:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 4500 @ 383.72
[2016-01-16 23:19:38] tscha : short moontest incoming
[2016-01-16 23:20:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 4000 @ 386.10
[2016-01-16 23:21:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 100 @ 387.17
[2016-01-16 23:21:17] micmix : so MMM China announced restart, to the moon again?
[2016-01-16 23:22:08] zanza : lol
[2016-01-16 23:38:30] jung1 : http://www.businessinsider.com/scientists-prove-comets-cant-explain-alien-megastructure-2016-1 : O
[2016-01-16 23:49:57] tscha : huh, just realized you can get sms-notfications from cryptowat.ch for free basically
[2016-01-16 23:51:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1000 @ 389.49
[2016-01-17 00:04:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1500 @ 386.05
[2016-01-17 00:11:44] rapidtrades : micmix: rly?
[2016-01-17 00:15:34] rapidtrades : I wanna thank the gods of BTFD..for giving me this chance to put more shorts on
[2016-01-17 00:22:09] gouda : shorts
[2016-01-17 00:22:15] gouda : u think this is going down already
[2016-01-17 00:22:26] rapidtrades : when did it stop going down?
[2016-01-17 00:22:33] rapidtrades : did u forget this morning?
[2016-01-17 00:22:39] gouda : yes
[2016-01-17 00:22:51] gouda : what time frame you trading
[2016-01-17 00:23:02] rapidtrades : daily
[2016-01-17 00:23:03] habibi : he trading daily candles
[2016-01-17 00:23:08] habibi : on daily contracts :D
[2016-01-17 00:23:16] rapidtrades : nah :)
[2016-01-17 00:23:20] gouda : i think there is a chance for 400 before heading down
[2016-01-17 00:23:29] gouda : thats where im going to short the house
[2016-01-17 00:23:53] rapidtrades : well gl...I'd rather not be left at the stattion again....obligatory f finex, get cancer finex
[2016-01-17 00:24:13] gouda : well top of triangle is 410
[2016-01-17 00:24:33] rapidtrades : I don't ''do'' itriangle
[2016-01-17 00:24:33] gouda : hit resistance fail
[2016-01-17 00:24:42] rapidtrades : triangles
[2016-01-17 00:25:06] rapidtrades : I don't do spelling either apparently
[2016-01-17 00:26:47] gouda : what does one rapidtrades do then
[2016-01-17 00:26:52] rapidtrades : I think if we break $400 there is danger to go higher
[2016-01-17 00:27:12] rapidtrades : so I'd rather short here where the odds look more favorable
[2016-01-17 00:27:13] gouda : so you think that 392 was top
[2016-01-17 00:27:19] rapidtrades : sure why not
[2016-01-17 00:27:33] gouda : yea but then you need decent margin risk to covert a pop up
[2016-01-17 00:30:33] rapidtrades : we'll see...I'm content with filling 75% of my planned position
[2016-01-17 00:30:41] rapidtrades : no 80%
[2016-01-17 00:31:25] gouda : save 20% for a spike to rise your average then you need cross marin to cover any stupid fomo
[2016-01-17 00:31:50] rapidtrades : nah...like I said I wouldn't short above $400
[2016-01-17 00:32:08] rapidtrades : I planned to sell into $400 but finex the whore crapped out on me
[2016-01-17 00:32:22] rapidtrades : but buying on weakness is much easier
[2016-01-17 00:32:30] rapidtrades : sry meant selling
[2016-01-17 00:33:43] habibi : rapidtrades: when u are going close short in case ur way failed?
[2016-01-17 00:34:14] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 11 @ 388.29
[2016-01-17 00:34:26] rapidtrades : above $450 for the entire position
[2016-01-17 00:34:39] habibi : 450? hard hands :)
[2016-01-17 00:34:40] gouda : well here your chance to add then :D
[2016-01-17 00:34:48] habibi : and u playing on 24h :)?
[2016-01-17 00:35:04] gouda : 450 thats some balls :D
[2016-01-17 00:35:05] habibi : see u then :)
[2016-01-17 00:35:10] rapidtrades : I have a small addon that I will close below $450 but most of it goes off above there
[2016-01-17 00:35:27] habibi : so u short on dailys here
[2016-01-17 00:35:39] habibi : and ur stop loss is at 450?
[2016-01-17 00:35:44] rapidtrades : no I'm short everywhere but here
[2016-01-17 00:36:03] habibi : good
[2016-01-17 00:36:03] zanza : im short on daily 30k from 450 now
[2016-01-17 00:36:14] zanza : $$$
[2016-01-17 00:36:23] rapidtrades : but we never traded to $450 todayy?
[2016-01-17 00:36:34] gouda : lol
[2016-01-17 00:36:35] habibi : he has magic tricks to keep position over settlement
[2016-01-17 00:36:35] zanza : if you are a good trader like me
[2016-01-17 00:36:39] rapidtrades : did u roll it over?
[2016-01-17 00:36:41] zanza : you make money always
[2016-01-17 00:36:47] gouda : how do you roll it over
[2016-01-17 00:36:47] zanza : im j/k
[2016-01-17 00:37:00] gouda : about to say show me the ways yoda
[2016-01-17 00:37:07] zanza : im just HODLing for now
[2016-01-17 00:37:08] rapidtrades : gouda: just short at open lol
[2016-01-17 00:37:14] zanza : no gamlbing
[2016-01-17 00:37:31] habibi : rapidtrades: and pay premium for opening that position?
[2016-01-17 00:37:36] gouda : i almost long at 350 this morning
[2016-01-17 00:37:42] gouda : said fuck im going back to sleep there is another trade
[2016-01-17 00:37:52] sleger : you almost made money
[2016-01-17 00:37:52] zanza : :(
[2016-01-17 00:37:58] rapidtrades : yeah I called the $350 bottom this morning...mostly luck tho :)
[2016-01-17 00:38:04] zanza : I think Mike Hearn poison is over with
[2016-01-17 00:38:16] gouda : LOL
[2016-01-17 00:38:23] zanza : Cryptsy though still 13k BTC exit scam
[2016-01-17 00:38:23] gouda : im still up over the past 72 hours
[2016-01-17 00:38:25] gouda : its been good
[2016-01-17 00:38:34] rapidtrades : sleger: hey baller sledger, still hodLing?
[2016-01-17 00:39:10] sleger : yes
[2016-01-17 00:39:27] gouda : overall its nice to see bitmex picking up
[2016-01-17 00:39:35] gouda : books are lot better now
[2016-01-17 00:39:47] gouda : it was so hard in the past to close big positions
[2016-01-17 00:40:48] sleger : still the case on quaterlies
[2016-01-17 00:41:53] gouda : yes
[2016-01-17 00:42:13] gouda : unless i can get a great position i won't touch it
[2016-01-17 00:42:22] gouda : profit needs to outway the chance for dpe loss
[2016-01-17 00:42:44] gouda : daily is where all the fun action is
[2016-01-17 00:44:43] rapidtrades : sleger: where will u get out if we go back down
[2016-01-17 00:45:13] sleger : i dont know, depends how and why
[2016-01-17 00:46:35] sleger : I've only lost 10k because besides the long I had some btccny vs btcusd which made money
[2016-01-17 00:48:25] rapidtrades : 10k is a lot of money unless ur trading with 1 mil
[2016-01-17 00:48:44] rapidtrades : guess it could've been open profits as well
[2016-01-17 00:48:53] habibi : sleger: didnt u make 40 btc here yesterday ;p?
[2016-01-17 00:49:22] sleger : here yes but i was talking overall, I had a 500-600btc long
[2016-01-17 00:49:30] habibi : ah k
[2016-01-17 00:52:56] sleger : let's say that didnt prevent me from falling asleep @rapidtrades
[2016-01-17 00:53:41] habibi : yep worst think is falling asleep in front of computer
[2016-01-17 00:55:06] rapidtrades : ok well I need to go to sleep :)
[2016-01-17 00:55:14] rapidtrades : have good night gents
[2016-01-17 00:55:27] habibi : see u above 400 then :p
[2016-01-17 00:55:58] rapidtrades : or below $350 :)
[2016-01-17 00:56:06] habibi : on dailys?
[2016-01-17 00:56:09] habibi : nah
[2016-01-17 01:14:27] gouda : well cud happen tomorrow but i don't think it will happen before settlement
[2016-01-17 01:14:52] habibi : first 400+ then dump if any
[2016-01-17 01:15:07] gouda : exactly 400-410
[2016-01-17 01:15:12] gouda : then dump
[2016-01-17 01:15:39] gouda : im waiting for the top :D
[2016-01-17 01:25:36] sleger : dont see micmix bot anymore
[2016-01-17 01:28:12] micmix : sleger: it's here
[2016-01-17 01:28:31] sleger : micmix: yes sorry I realized i was on weekly after saying that
[2016-01-17 01:28:43] sleger : when are you showing real sizes ?
[2016-01-17 01:30:54] micmix : sleger: I dont' think you were here but BitMEX API had a screw up couple days ago and my bot ended up with 10x position size. need to add another layer of protection before the size increase
[2016-01-17 01:31:47] sleger : oh ok good it was still on tiny size then
[2016-01-17 01:32:07] sleger : you dont trade okcoin futures via websocket you said before right ?
[2016-01-17 01:32:16] micmix : no, we use FIX
[2016-01-17 01:32:30] sleger : does it work well ?
[2016-01-17 01:32:50] sleger : i mean the fix api
[2016-01-17 01:32:56] micmix : yes, very reliable. websocket is overloaded often
[2016-01-17 01:33:34] sleger : yes I can see that when markets are moving fast it's terrible
[2016-01-17 01:33:42] micmix : still get connection drops with FIX but not often, websocket is much worse
[2016-01-17 01:34:34] lockhedge : micmix: did you measure your position based on *filled orders* from BitMEX's ws api and didn't check your position via REST before every order?
[2016-01-17 01:36:40] micmix : lockhedge: I monitor real position size via websocket and REST. The problem was that multiple orders timed out (REST time out), there were no notifications over websocket, and then all orders were filled at once.
[2016-01-17 01:37:32] micmix : there were no notifications that the orders were placed so my system assumed that the orders failed
[2016-01-17 01:39:52] micmix : it's a combination of REST time out and no ws notifications. If either worked I would've been fine
[2016-01-17 01:40:24] sleger : for that I have a max nb of open orders and cant send if > something
[2016-01-17 01:41:13] micmix : I do as well but REST timeout + no notification of a placed order means the order is not open
[2016-01-17 01:41:52] tscha : the only way to prevent his problem is to use the same cl0rdID until the order succeeds
[2016-01-17 01:42:12] micmix : yes @tscha, that's what I'm doing now
[2016-01-17 01:42:50] tscha : i'm doing that too. cl0rdids are super-handy.
[2016-01-17 01:43:09] micmix : but it's a big chance because clOrdID is generated deep inside the system, not in the BitMEX adapter
[2016-01-17 01:43:17] micmix : * change, not chance
[2016-01-17 01:43:59] micmix : anyway, implementation details :-)
[2016-01-17 01:44:00] sleger : what REST call timed out ?
[2016-01-17 01:44:19] micmix : place order call
[2016-01-17 01:45:03] sleger : if you increase your counter of open orders before calling place order the protection should be enough
[2016-01-17 01:45:25] sleger : then you figure out if your order is open / filled / canceled before you decrease that counter or not
[2016-01-17 01:47:33] micmix : sleger: if I decrease it on error I'll end up in the same situation. If ws doesn't send order notification, I'll have to do a REST call to find out the status. It's slow and uses extra API calls. clOrdID is the best way to prevent the problem.
[2016-01-17 01:47:54] tscha : just out of curiosity, why are you creating the cl0rdID deep inside the system and not in the adapters of the exchanges?
[2016-01-17 01:48:19] habibi : micmix: btw it was about shorts?
[2016-01-17 01:48:20] sleger : yes in case of no answer I do a rest call, it doesnt happen often so i dont see it as an issue. And that avoids you a big development as you said
[2016-01-17 01:48:48] micmix : tscha: clOrdID is used to track the orders through the whole system and store orders in the database
[2016-01-17 01:49:15] micmix : sleger: yes, makes sense, it doesn't happen often
[2016-01-17 01:49:56] sleger : re clOrdId, I also use them across whole system but are generated in each adapter using adapter_name + number so for instance "Bitmex_01234"
[2016-01-17 01:51:02] tscha : that's exactly what i'm doing too
[2016-01-17 01:51:11] micmix : we use clOrdID in backtesting and simulations as well, when there is no adapter
[2016-01-17 01:51:37] sleger : I have a fake adapter for backtesting and i give them a name too : fake01_01234
[2016-01-17 01:54:39] micmix : yep, that's a good way to do it as well. anyway, I'll try with polling order status after timeout, it's good enough and much easier than changing clOrdID generation logic.
[2016-01-17 01:56:06] sleger : glad i could help
[2016-01-17 01:56:43] micmix : thanks :-) I don't like polling in general but in this case it will work
[2016-01-17 01:56:47] lockhedge : micmix: i'm polling order status every time before placing a new order, costs time but only way to go for me right now
[2016-01-17 01:57:13] micmix : lockhedge: can't afford to do that, way too slow
[2016-01-17 01:57:38] tscha : lockhedge: are you having issues with the ws or why are you doing that? ws is usually really stable for me.
[2016-01-17 01:57:38] lockhedge : isn't there a "relpace order" feature coming soon?
[2016-01-17 01:59:01] tscha : lockhedge: yes, amending orders
[2016-01-17 02:00:24] sleger : yes he said he had issues 2 days ago with ws
[2016-01-17 02:00:58] micmix : BitMEX_Wally said that they are having issues with ws and planning to switch to another provider
[2016-01-17 02:02:05] tscha : interesting. maybe I should check my logs more often.
[2016-01-17 02:03:03] micmix : maybe today's downtime is related to that, I don't know
[2016-01-17 02:05:18] micmix : well isn't that nice, 4 of 5 BitMEX MMs discussing coding in chat :-)
[2016-01-17 02:05:22] lockhedge : is the current ws api hosted on eu-west-1 as well, never checked as i'm not using ws anymore
[2016-01-17 02:05:48] micmix : 2 are just baby MMs of course (myself included) :-)
[2016-01-17 02:06:41] STRML_phone : Hey, on my phone so I'll be brief, Sam here, been following this conversation
[2016-01-17 02:07:04] STRML_phone : The downtime tomorrow is indeed in order to fix an unstable service that had caused that issue
[2016-01-17 02:07:27] STRML_phone : Among other regular server maintenance and patching
[2016-01-17 02:08:08] micmix : STRML_phone: oh good, glad to see you guys on top of the issue
[2016-01-17 02:08:10] lockhedge : micmix: guess i'm the second baby MM here ;)
[2016-01-17 02:08:14] STRML_phone : & yes, order amend, bulk placement, bulk amend all coming soon, we're testing these features on Testnet
[2016-01-17 02:08:42] tscha : bulk placement+amend? whoooo
[2016-01-17 02:08:42] STRML_phone : Believe me nobody is more frustrated with those downtimes than me
[2016-01-17 02:09:41] STRML_phone : It's been average two minutes every two or three days but that's obviously too much.
[2016-01-17 02:11:30] tscha : thanks for clarification sam! and good night guys. btw @micmix I am baby-mm too over the weekend, testing new method... cya tomorrow
[2016-01-17 02:11:47] gouda : :D
[2016-01-17 02:12:00] gouda : im looking fforward to ios app :D
[2016-01-17 02:12:00] lockhedge : good night, tscha
[2016-01-17 02:19:09] lockhedge : STRML_phone: guess CTO for a Bitcoin trading platform is one of the hardest IT jobs. everything has to be realtime and open to everyone while you are being ddos attacked :) thanks for keeping this system stable
[2016-01-17 02:19:51] STRML_phone : Thanks lockhedge. 24/7 uptime is indeed difficult. Have a good night everyone
[2016-01-17 02:21:01] gouda : gn hf
[2016-01-17 02:30:43] micmix : STRML_phone: thanks Sam, appreciate all the hard work!
[2016-01-17 02:38:47] micmix : lockhedge: we are all baby MMs compared to sleger ;-)
[2016-01-17 02:42:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 6000 @ 387.16
[2016-01-17 03:04:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 4500 @ 384.95
[2016-01-17 03:04:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 100 @ 384.47
[2016-01-17 03:04:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 100 @ 385.35
[2016-01-17 03:05:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 3000 @ 383.32
[2016-01-17 03:08:27] REKT : :btc: :soon: :toilet:
[2016-01-17 03:08:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 13 @ 381.18
[2016-01-17 04:12:26] zanza : rofl ` ? ? `
[2016-01-17 04:29:45] salcon : вверх или вниз?
[2016-01-17 04:36:25] salcon : micmix: привет
[2016-01-17 04:39:32] Swedishnut : sadness for the Packers
[2016-01-17 04:40:58] gouda : ha ha packers
[2016-01-17 04:41:04] gouda : cardinals :D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[2016-01-17 04:53:34] zanza : do many people in Sweden watch American Footbal
[2016-01-17 04:54:34] micmix : salcon: privet! esli b ia znal vverh ili vniz, byl by uzhe millionerom ;-)
[2016-01-17 05:14:40] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 43 @ 382.43
[2016-01-17 07:08:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 6 @ 381.54
[2016-01-17 07:09:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 5 @ 380.07
[2016-01-17 07:10:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1800 @ 378.10
[2016-01-17 07:35:32] djuan : It's time to short from 381/382 ish she ain't reaching 400
[2016-01-17 07:40:43] gouda : or that was btfd
[2016-01-17 08:03:42] djuan : btfd? @gouda
[2016-01-17 08:19:50] gouda : buy the f u c kimg dip
[2016-01-17 08:24:11] djuan : i see a head and shoulders pattern on the 15min chart. thats what i based it on. but i could be wrong
[2016-01-17 08:32:05] gouda : yea a reverse head and sholders i saw that too
[2016-01-17 08:32:11] gouda : but looks like they created another neck line
[2016-01-17 08:32:16] gouda : we should of dumped there
[2016-01-17 08:32:23] gouda : bfx broke down
[2016-01-17 08:32:26] gouda : but houb held us up
[2016-01-17 08:33:57] gouda : http://prntscr.com/9r4vd1
[2016-01-17 08:40:02] djuan : oh i see. yeah looks legit. i just got out of bed and made a snap judgement
[2016-01-17 10:23:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 80 @ 380.71
[2016-01-17 10:34:03] gouda : yawn
[2016-01-17 10:34:39] djuan : next stop 395. have a cup of tea and relax lol
[2016-01-17 10:36:28] gouda : lol
[2016-01-17 10:36:38] gouda : nah just getting tired
[2016-01-17 10:36:47] gouda : been up for 20 hours :D
[2016-01-17 10:37:02] djuan : jeez man
[2016-01-17 10:37:23] gouda : waiting to see what happens here
[2016-01-17 10:37:35] gouda : would like to short that 395 area :D
[2016-01-17 10:37:45] gouda : if we get there
[2016-01-17 10:37:54] gouda : hoping it would be around settlement
[2016-01-17 10:38:02] gouda : on the 24hr
[2016-01-17 10:38:07] djuan : yeah it really does look like that triangle is a resistance area
[2016-01-17 10:38:21] djuan : or support
[2016-01-17 10:38:56] gouda : yea
[2016-01-17 10:39:14] gouda : well if we don't start going up ill probably just set low buys and go to bed lol
[2016-01-17 10:39:23] gouda : but i hate missing a trade
[2016-01-17 10:39:27] djuan : all the good stuff always happens before bed
[2016-01-17 10:39:43] gouda : or 30 min after you laid down
[2016-01-17 10:39:46] gouda : then you wake up
[2016-01-17 10:39:48] djuan : yep
[2016-01-17 10:39:49] gouda : look at the chart
[2016-01-17 10:40:05] gouda : and ur like fuck 30 more min id made bank
[2016-01-17 10:40:24] gouda : damn auto filter :D
[2016-01-17 11:06:20] djuan : ?
[2016-01-17 11:08:25] djuan : 52 mins. maybe not enough time to get there
[2016-01-17 11:09:14] djuan : lows are still higher on 1min chart
[2016-01-17 11:09:52] gouda : yup
[2016-01-17 11:14:31] Akaiapc40 : sorry, can someone explain me why when i close a position my balance decresae also if Unrealised PNL (ROE %) is positive?
[2016-01-17 11:14:49] djuan : yeah i want to know that too
[2016-01-17 11:15:13] Akaiapc40 : probably i don't know how to close positions?
[2016-01-17 11:16:10] djuan : i think it has something to do with fees. or maybe there is a delay between whats on the screen and the actual market
[2016-01-17 11:17:53] Akaiapc40 : ok....then when i can be sure to close a position in profit?
[2016-01-17 11:17:56] Akaiapc40 : lol
[2016-01-17 11:19:41] Akaiapc40 : When i hit "close position" the closing price is FAIR price or LAST price?
[2016-01-17 11:19:52] djuan : fair
[2016-01-17 11:20:24] gouda : no its the value of the bids or ask you close into
[2016-01-17 11:21:34] Akaiapc40 : ok can close placing a bid/ask opposite to my previous order....or i can close with the red button "close position"...
[2016-01-17 11:22:16] gouda : you mean market close
[2016-01-17 11:22:19] gouda : i never use that
[2016-01-17 11:22:31] gouda : i buy to close a short
[2016-01-17 11:22:36] gouda : and sell to close a buy
[2016-01-17 11:22:40] gouda : make sense?
[2016-01-17 11:23:04] djuan : but then how do you close all together?
[2016-01-17 11:23:29] gouda : say open long at 380 for 5000 contracts
[2016-01-17 11:23:36] gouda : then you decide to close at 390
[2016-01-17 11:23:45] gouda : you do a sell of 5000 contracts at 390
[2016-01-17 11:23:56] gouda : so you can A: sell into bids at 390
[2016-01-17 11:24:05] Akaiapc40 : gouda: yes that's have sense.....but how to close instantly an order?
[2016-01-17 11:24:11] gouda : or B: set a sell at 390 for 5000 contacts
[2016-01-17 11:24:24] gouda : you hit the close market red but
[2016-01-17 11:24:32] gouda : but it will lose into bids or ask depending on your trade
[2016-01-17 11:25:07] djuan : but you have to buy or sell the same amount? open long at 5000 and close at 5000
[2016-01-17 11:25:07] gouda : so if the market is moving when you do that it can swing your profit into a loss or loss into a profit if your really lucky
[2016-01-17 11:25:13] Akaiapc40 : gouda: in fact the last trade had a small loose also ROE was ++
[2016-01-17 11:25:34] gouda : so you made profit but still have some coin missing'
[2016-01-17 11:25:42] Akaiapc40 : yes
[2016-01-17 11:26:08] djuan : that happens to me sometimes when i hit close market
[2016-01-17 11:26:12] Akaiapc40 : that happened severak times already
[2016-01-17 11:26:33] gouda : the fee's come out of margin not prof
[2016-01-17 11:26:43] gouda : profit
[2016-01-17 11:27:02] djuan : so if you added margin you pay higher fee?
[2016-01-17 11:27:39] gouda : mp
[2016-01-17 11:28:06] gouda : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2016-01-17 11:28:10] gouda : those fe
[2016-01-17 11:28:20] gouda : come out of your avaialble funds aka margin
[2016-01-17 11:28:25] gouda : not your profit
[2016-01-17 11:28:27] Akaiapc40 : gouda: you wrote... 12:23 - gouda: say open long at 380 for 5000 contracts 12:23 - gouda: then you decide to close at 390 12:23 - gouda: you do a sell of 5000 contracts at 390
[2016-01-17 11:29:06] Akaiapc40 : on this way....i can be in profit, still placing and order to sell 5000 @ 390....but isn't sure that will be executde immediately
[2016-01-17 11:29:21] Akaiapc40 : right?
[2016-01-17 11:29:55] gouda : if there is bids at 390 it excuted impmediat
[2016-01-17 11:30:06] gouda : if there not then it goes to the ask side and waits for someone to bu
[2016-01-17 11:30:13] gouda : buy i
[2016-01-17 11:30:36] Akaiapc40 : gouda: ok, thanks!
[2016-01-17 11:31:00] gouda : where else have you traded at?
[2016-01-17 11:31:03] gouda : and NP
[2016-01-17 11:31:50] Akaiapc40 : i've had some trading on exchange like bittrex....now are forst experiences wit bitmex
[2016-01-17 11:31:57] Akaiapc40 : with*
[2016-01-17 11:32:08] Akaiapc40 : first*
[2016-01-17 11:32:10] Akaiapc40 : sorry
[2016-01-17 11:32:34] Akaiapc40 : still putting small orders to test my skill
[2016-01-17 11:32:39] Akaiapc40 : and learning gui
[2016-01-17 11:33:17] gouda : its a good start
[2016-01-17 11:33:24] gouda : i came from ok coin
[2016-01-17 11:33:46] gouda : traded there over 1.5 years before they cracked down on usa traders
[2016-01-17 11:34:54] djuan : we are breaking through that diagonal support line ☹️
[2016-01-17 11:35:56] gouda : yea
[2016-01-17 11:36:00] gouda : so either sidways
[2016-01-17 11:36:02] gouda : dump
[2016-01-17 11:36:15] gouda : or another line yet to be seen :D
[2016-01-17 11:38:18] jung1 : tech analysis for bitcoin does not work
[2016-01-17 11:38:32] jung1 : if another bitcoin jesus tweet about btc
[2016-01-17 11:38:39] jung1 : price will dump or pump
[2016-01-17 11:38:43] jung1 : hehe
[2016-01-17 11:38:48] jung1 : free market at it finest
[2016-01-17 11:41:02] gouda : exactly :D
[2016-01-17 11:41:19] gouda : btc=shithappens
[2016-01-17 11:42:47] jung1 : Trading will halt from 15:00 UTC to 15:30 UTC, Sunday, January 17.
[2016-01-17 11:42:50] jung1 : remember
[2016-01-17 11:43:00] gouda : yup yup
[2016-01-17 11:43:03] gouda : was just checking that out :D
[2016-01-17 11:43:10] Akaiapc40 : ;)
[2016-01-17 11:44:00] jung1 : what was that site with free sms notification about btc price?
[2016-01-17 11:44:02] jung1 : cryptowatch?
[2016-01-17 11:44:17] gouda : cryptowat.ch
[2016-01-17 11:44:32] jung1 : de nada
[2016-01-17 11:44:41] jung1 : obrigado
[2016-01-17 11:44:45] jung1 : sorry
[2016-01-17 11:45:23] jung1 : guys subscribe reddit.com/r/bitmex
[2016-01-17 11:45:31] jung1 : we could have some talk there
[2016-01-17 11:49:48] rapidtrades : when the fuckk is UTC
[2016-01-17 11:49:53] tscha : lol guys, did you see that? https://github.com/bitcoinclassic/bitcoinclassic/pull/6
[2016-01-17 11:54:15] jung1 : tldr?
[2016-01-17 11:58:43] tscha : he basically tries to add a poison pill to Bitcoin Classic by changing the hashing algorithm, so millions of hardware would become useless and inefficient in mining :D
[2016-01-17 11:58:57] Demous : luke-jr wants to change Bitcoin's POW to Keccak
[2016-01-17 11:59:36] rapidtrades : what a dummy
[2016-01-17 11:59:47] jung1 : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitMEX/comments/41d7tt/usefull_links
[2016-01-17 12:05:58] laisee : either Luke is dumb enough to think people would accept that change, or he thinks Classic would swallow such a poison pill ... crazy either way.
[2016-01-17 12:07:37] Demous : he's just trolling
[2016-01-17 12:07:38] jung1 : matter of time that he wil develope new revolution coin
[2016-01-17 12:07:39] jung1 : with that
[2016-01-17 12:08:01] rapidtrades : bring the revolucion!!!!!!!!
[2016-01-17 12:08:01] laisee : crazyMOFOCoin
[2016-01-17 12:08:02] jung1 : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitMEX/comments/41d7tt/usefull_links guys add your favourite tools
[2016-01-17 12:22:16] jung1 : ok lets check 390 one more time
[2016-01-17 12:31:57] rapidtrades : rly boys? a premium?
[2016-01-17 12:34:29] jung1 : someone should make some ELI5 what is and how premium works
[2016-01-17 12:47:38] jung1 : up we go?
[2016-01-17 12:57:57] chromaticcr : http://i.imgur.com/HHTEOru.gifv
[2016-01-17 13:03:35] tscha : hahaha I love this scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAQA_29Htts
[2016-01-17 13:12:25] jung1 : lets see if we will keep 380
[2016-01-17 13:21:36] djuan : its a woozy its a wazzy
[2016-01-17 13:23:10] chromaticcr : @tscha then I guess this is what Arthur and sam is talking about while they are looking at the chatroom http://i.imgur.com/T1rfzir.gifv
[2016-01-17 13:23:57] tscha : haha
[2016-01-17 13:26:58] tscha : i don't like mcconaughey but this acting is world-class
[2016-01-17 13:29:56] jesperf : what's not to like about mahogany pony?
[2016-01-17 13:30:07] jesperf : except his name
[2016-01-17 13:42:47] tscha : dunno, just my irrational personal opinion
[2016-01-17 13:43:55] jesperf : I can recommend watching true detective to change your opinion about him
[2016-01-17 13:44:01] jesperf : absolutely stellar acting
[2016-01-17 13:44:53] Demous : He was phenomenal in true detective
[2016-01-17 13:45:33] tscha : bookmarked, will check it out when I have time
[2016-01-17 13:49:29] tscha : $2 negative premium on daily quanto, thats a lot
[2016-01-17 13:55:40] habibi : tscha: whats the spot for u? finex?
[2016-01-17 13:57:33] tscha : uh, didn't realize all other four exchanges are so far below finex now.
[2016-01-17 14:04:13] tscha : i'm still a bit annoyed I didn't take a short exposure after hearns letter
[2016-01-17 14:18:47] tscha : finally the 24H price corrects
[2016-01-17 14:18:52] chromaticcr : buy the rumor sell the news
[2016-01-17 14:32:24] Akaiapc40 : 390 then down again?
[2016-01-17 14:33:26] djuan : maybe even 415
[2016-01-17 14:33:45] BitMEX_Sam : FYI everyone we'll be doing maintenance on the servers in a half hour.
[2016-01-17 14:34:21] BitMEX_Sam : We sent an email; more details are in the announcements bullhorn by your username (top-right)
[2016-01-17 14:34:21] tscha : BitMEX_Sam: you saw luke-jr's pull request?
[2016-01-17 14:34:26] BitMEX_Sam : I didn't
[2016-01-17 14:34:47] tscha : https://github.com/bitcoinclassic/bitcoinclassic/pull/6
[2016-01-17 14:34:50] BitMEX_Sam : Ah yes, I did see that earlier
[2016-01-17 14:35:09] BitMEX_Sam : Not the right place for it obviously, but switching hashes could be a worthwhile conversation some day
[2016-01-17 14:35:25] tscha : I agree
[2016-01-17 14:35:52] tscha : Keen to see them implement it when core hardforks to 2MB haha
[2016-01-17 14:43:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1 @ 384.47 :punch: :whale:
[2016-01-17 14:58:02] BitMEX_Sam : We'll be shutting down the trade engine in two minutes.
[2016-01-17 15:00:59] BitMEX_Sam : Downtime in progress. We'll see you all in a half hour.
[2016-01-17 15:01:17] Samirum : How do I open a position, why am I getting luquidated once th rice by 2?
[2016-01-17 15:13:04] BitMEX_Sam : We have completed the maintenance earlier than expected and will resume trading shortly.
[2016-01-17 15:13:17] BitMEX_Sam : If you like, you can still cancel orders while the engine is suspended.
[2016-01-17 15:13:58] BitMEX_Sam : We will resume at 15:15 UTC (2 minutes).
[2016-01-17 15:15:31] BitMEX_Sam : We're back.
[2016-01-17 15:15:44] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks everyone for your patience while we do this important work.
[2016-01-17 15:30:04] Akaiapc40 : Thanks for your work!
[2016-01-17 15:55:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 10 @ 386.77
[2016-01-17 16:23:54] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 190 @ 383.94
[2016-01-17 16:23:54] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1500 @ 383.88
[2016-01-17 16:57:05] Akaiapc40 : up up
[2016-01-17 16:59:08] 420WhaleIt : you think up to 390 then down again?
[2016-01-17 17:01:49] jung1 : depends. we will try 390 and could stay there a bit
[2016-01-17 17:13:09] SnackyCoins : A downtime i was informed about in advance and then blinked and missed happening. Doesn't get any better than that :) A+
[2016-01-17 17:14:50] jung1 : but we're still in uptrend since 09.2015
[2016-01-17 17:14:54] jung1 : so far
[2016-01-17 17:19:17] BitMEX_Sam : SnackyCoins: :)
[2016-01-17 18:06:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 5111 @ 386.95
[2016-01-17 18:58:14] kingscrown : Heard of 100% decentralized exchange yet? http://fuk.io/openledger-decentralized-exchange-and-obits-new-way-to-trade-bitcoins-and-make-money/
[2016-01-17 18:59:20] jung1 : yup
[2016-01-17 19:00:08] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 200 @ 388.69
[2016-01-17 19:06:44] Akaiapc40 : kingscrown: Hi...really like your blog
[2016-01-17 19:21:58] cekseh : I like kingscrown's gaw/joshgarza/paycoin shill promotion better
[2016-01-17 19:22:09] cekseh : gaw cloud mining ftw
[2016-01-17 19:24:33] cekseh : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xUXOy4lCOA <--- good call bro
[2016-01-17 19:27:43] habibi : cekseh: i would call him a scammer but as u can see he is loosing money as well so not much clever than his refferals
[2016-01-17 19:31:40] cekseh : Not a scammer, just bad calls =P
[2016-01-17 19:35:20] cekseh : Tbo I'm just poking fun at him cause I'm not fond of his method of asking others to promote his referral links for him, under the guise of tutorials on how to make free/easy money, or investing in shitcoins that will go to the moon tomorrow if you don't buy
[2016-01-17 19:36:27] habibi : nah best his tutors are about winning free money in casino! and always be on win-win side :)
[2016-01-17 19:44:38] jung1 : ok lets try 390
[2016-01-17 19:48:26] djuan : resistance at 388.44. Does anybody else think this is going up?
[2016-01-17 19:49:06] jung1 : we're going to 390 at least
[2016-01-17 19:49:43] djuan : is it a gut feeling?
[2016-01-17 19:49:59] jung1 : not impossible would be like $10 pump and stay at 390
[2016-01-17 19:50:00] djuan : or a hopeful feeling?
[2016-01-17 19:50:10] jung1 : noone knows
[2016-01-17 19:50:21] jung1 : but im long
[2016-01-17 19:59:37] djuan : because I'm not sure I'm going to short 390
[2016-01-17 20:00:03] djuan : i don't think it will go higher than 390
[2016-01-17 20:00:16] jung1 : btw would be funny if charli lee will made hugo shorts on ltc and post similar stuff like hearn but about litecoin
[2016-01-17 20:01:37] jung1 : djuan: so short half of you position at 390
[2016-01-17 20:05:47] djuan : good idea
[2016-01-17 20:29:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 132 @ 385.92
[2016-01-17 20:41:29] Samirum : 388 is the resisting point, some sideways then it takesoff
[2016-01-17 20:54:51] Mitchf : Guys - I'm just checking my understanding of how these contracts have been setup. If I want to sell forward 100 Bitcoin in March I would do so using the XBTH16 yeah?
[2016-01-17 20:55:18] Mitchf : i.e. To lock in the USD I receive when I sell them
[2016-01-17 21:01:34] aethlios : Mitchf: true. wait for settlement when price equals spot.
[2016-01-17 21:02:50] aethlios : BUT profits are not guaranteed because of DPE, check what that is.
[2016-01-17 21:03:37] aethlios : Mitchf: https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation
[2016-01-17 22:20:28] sleger : aethlios: actually that is NOT true.
[2016-01-17 23:14:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 248 @ 384.20
[2016-01-17 23:14:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 250 @ 384.91
[2016-01-17 23:16:09] jung1 : looks like we wil se faster 350 than 400
[2016-01-17 23:16:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2000 @ 382.78
[2016-01-17 23:28:47] sleger : jung1: want to bet money on it ?
[2016-01-17 23:41:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 200 @ 382.09
[2016-01-17 23:46:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1000 @ 379.72
[2016-01-17 23:46:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 4000 @ 381.66
[2016-01-17 23:46:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 250 @ 379.16
[2016-01-17 23:46:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 600 @ 378.99
[2016-01-17 23:46:37] REKT : Blood on the streets!
[2016-01-18 00:11:02] rapidtrades : how's it going fellas?
[2016-01-18 00:11:06] rapidtrades : up or down ?
[2016-01-18 00:12:47] zanza : hey, going good
[2016-01-18 00:13:39] zanza : oil just got shreked
[2016-01-18 00:14:58] rapidtrades : yeah...iran sanctions lifted
[2016-01-18 00:16:37] rapidtrades : Ruble gapped lower
[2016-01-18 00:17:17] rapidtrades : Cad as well
[2016-01-18 00:45:11] rapidtrades : You know the hardest part about trading?
[2016-01-18 00:58:08] sleger : having to listen to tscha ?
[2016-01-18 01:02:25] rapidtrades : no but that's pretty close :)
[2016-01-18 01:03:48] rapidtrades : USD/CNH sharply lower today, fixing in 12 mins