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[2016-01-16 00:02:57] habibi : sleger: now they need it.
[2016-01-16 00:03:08] sleger : habibi: no they dont
[2016-01-16 00:03:19] sleger : fair price is still within bid ask why do you want readjust ?
[2016-01-16 00:03:23] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 5000 @ 364.64
[2016-01-16 00:03:55] gustavo7 : how do you loos this short
[2016-01-16 00:04:19] jung1 : no margin
[2016-01-16 00:04:24] jung1 : not enough
[2016-01-16 00:04:30] macios15 : i think 2175
[2016-01-16 00:04:34] macios15 : thats good
[2016-01-16 00:08:47] micmix : habibi: I'm long XBTH16 and short XBTM16, I'll be fine but thanks for worrying about me :-)
[2016-01-16 00:09:28] tscha : micmix: good :)
[2016-01-16 00:10:05] micmix : might still lose a coin or so but it's not a big deal
[2016-01-16 00:11:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 5000 @ 361.19
[2016-01-16 00:11:40] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: 2016-01-15T23:42:49.600Z BitMEX: could not cancel order edbd97eb-fa34-4610-4a1e- 9c91adc12a82 Unable to cancel order due to existing state: Order New
[2016-01-16 00:12:32] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: that's weird, could you please check why cancel failed?
[2016-01-16 00:12:55] gustavo7 : 5k again, same guy?
[2016-01-16 00:13:03] rapidtrades : dam that wall on h16 didn't get filled
[2016-01-16 00:13:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 300 @ 364.47
[2016-01-16 00:19:13] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 229 @ 369.38
[2016-01-16 00:21:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1433 @ 364.95
[2016-01-16 00:25:46] ethexio : Bonkers
[2016-01-16 00:27:25] habibi : bom bom bom bonkers
[2016-01-16 00:31:07] micmix : finally some nice volatility
[2016-01-16 00:31:46] tscha : especially volume
[2016-01-16 00:31:47] micmix : slow rise to $450 was way too boring
[2016-01-16 00:33:02] j8 : 16% move in 24 hours
[2016-01-16 00:36:35] rapidtrades : leukemia for finex
[2016-01-16 00:47:54] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 100 @ 373.70
[2016-01-16 00:47:54] REKT : Getting chopped to death is fun, everyone should try it!
[2016-01-16 00:49:41] j8 : volatility today would have justified around 2% premium on the daily
[2016-01-16 00:50:17] j8 : so longs can feel good about that anyway.
[2016-01-16 00:51:10] rapidtrades : are u sure
[2016-01-16 00:51:19] rapidtrades : we only fell $30
[2016-01-16 00:51:40] rapidtrades : we opened around $405
[2016-01-16 00:51:59] j8 : that was for 14%
[2016-01-16 00:52:09] rapidtrades : what
[2016-01-16 00:52:56] lockhedge : some more stats... 190 XBT turnover for my tiny robot within 24h, working around the clock to provide liquidity for you :)
[2016-01-16 00:53:07] j8 : top to bottom was around 14% drop, now we're at like -9%
[2016-01-16 00:53:23] j8 : day's only half over
[2016-01-16 00:53:26] rapidtrades : booo!!!!!!!! get otta here botmaker! @lockhedge
[2016-01-16 00:53:42] rapidtrades : j8: who cares about top to bottom
[2016-01-16 00:54:00] j8 : just took the numbers when i saw them
[2016-01-16 00:54:15] j8 : -16% daily candle
[2016-01-16 00:54:26] j8 : times don't quite line up
[2016-01-16 00:54:28] rapidtrades : they still don't add up...how do u come up with 2% premium...thats $8
[2016-01-16 00:54:46] j8 : yup
[2016-01-16 00:54:50] j8 : quanto
[2016-01-16 00:55:15] rapidtrades : it's too much...how did u come up with that..can anyone else confirm?
[2016-01-16 00:55:22] lockhedge : rapidtrades: the bot made -0.0459 XBT since settlement, so no fear that it's stealing your money ;)
[2016-01-16 00:55:47] rapidtrades : so u made negative money? good job
[2016-01-16 00:56:34] habibi : there is positive side of that, no clawback!
[2016-01-16 00:56:38] rapidtrades : ok going to bed,,,feeling a little grumpy tonight :)
[2016-01-16 00:56:42] j8 : 0.14 squared is 0.02
[2016-01-16 00:56:54] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 15213 @ 372.88 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-01-16 00:57:07] rapidtrades : have a good night fellas
[2016-01-16 00:57:10] j8 : night
[2016-01-16 00:57:16] lockhedge : rapidtrades: good night
[2016-01-16 00:58:02] gouda : peace
[2016-01-16 00:58:16] tscha : i got 1200 xbt turnover since settlement :D
[2016-01-16 00:59:52] lockhedge : tscha: as market maker? or mainly arb strategies?
[2016-01-16 01:00:11] tscha : lockhedge: from everything a bit
[2016-01-16 01:01:35] lockhedge : tscha: sounds like an evil hybrid/cyborg strategy :)
[2016-01-16 01:01:48] tscha : lockhedge: skynet reloaded
[2016-01-16 01:02:08] tscha : asian skynet using deep learning
[2016-01-16 01:04:07] lockhedge : controlled by the chinese gov of course
[2016-01-16 01:05:12] habibi : i have same recent trades on every contracts
[2016-01-16 01:05:16] habibi : u too?
[2016-01-16 01:05:56] tscha : lockhedge: seems like a fair bot
[2016-01-16 01:16:19] micmix : I'm still buying XBTH16 if anyone interested
[2016-01-16 01:19:07] gaoMex : Put in 1000 for u
[2016-01-16 01:19:57] micmix : thanks but I want my bids filled :-)
[2016-01-16 01:20:28] habibi : last time u were buying m1
[2016-01-16 01:20:49] habibi : :
[2016-01-16 01:21:17] micmix : yes, was reducing short
[2016-01-16 01:21:43] habibi : a
[2016-01-16 01:22:20] habibi : ah k
[2016-01-16 01:22:30] gaoMex : micmix: Increase to 438 and I will hit it
[2016-01-16 01:29:15] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 10000 @ 372.10
[2016-01-16 01:30:30] micmix : gaoMex: that's ok, I can wait to get a fill @ $430 or so
[2016-01-16 01:38:03] zanza : wow
[2016-01-16 01:38:08] zanza : some wreckage today
[2016-01-16 01:54:05] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1206 @ 371.95
[2016-01-16 01:54:05] REKT : Have a bowl of chop-chop suey!
[2016-01-16 02:01:11] micmix : going for halving of the price before halving ;-)
[2016-01-16 02:01:19] habibi : :D
[2016-01-16 02:03:30] zanza : "cheap coinz"
[2016-01-16 02:15:30] gouda : not cheap enough yet
[2016-01-16 02:17:25] zanza : -13%
[2016-01-16 02:17:27] zanza : ouch
[2016-01-16 02:17:40] zanza : i bet Mike Hearn has a target on his head now
[2016-01-16 02:18:06] zanza : he just cost some Chinese mine farms some big cash
[2016-01-16 02:20:08] tscha : pretty sure he timed his blogpost with gavin and the announcement of classic. Chinese miners now realize it's getting serious and are finally acting.
[2016-01-16 02:20:13] micmix : people are angry but everyone had 6+ months of warning about the block size issue and no one wanted to compromise. block szie increase to 2mb would have been painless
[2016-01-16 02:21:17] micmix : it's going to happen now with much more damage to bitcoin image
[2016-01-16 02:35:15] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: I had a look into that order cancel issue you had
[2016-01-16 02:35:38] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: what did you find?
[2016-01-16 02:36:56] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: Looks like you submitted 2 cancel requests in quick succession. The first one canceled the order, the second one failed (because it was already canceled). When generating the error message for the second cancel the API uses a cache rather than going straight to the engine, and it got a stale copy of the order that was still New
[2016-01-16 02:37:59] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: ok, makes sense. it's not a problem, was just weird bc I never saw that error before
[2016-01-16 02:38:08] BitMEX_Wally : So the second cancel request correctly failed but had the wrong error message on it due to a slight race condition in the caching
[2016-01-16 02:39:52] micmix : I will check cancel batching in my code, I shouldn't send 2 cancels for the same order in parallel
[2016-01-16 02:40:39] micmix : can you give me timestamps of those 2 cancel requests?
[2016-01-16 02:41:07] BitMEX_Wally : Sure
[2016-01-16 02:42:35] BitMEX_Wally : `Jan 16 07:42:54 "DELETE /api/v1/order {"orderID":"edbd97eb-fa34-4610-4a1e-9c91adc12a82,cf946bfb-af46-16b4-8f19-d9ca1a2a97a8,9642b86e-eadf-625c-6907-a74250449c7a"}" 200`
[2016-01-16 02:42:41] BitMEX_Wally : `Jan 16 07:42:54 "DELETE /api/v1/order {"orderID":"edbd97eb-fa34-4610-4a1e-9c91adc12a82"}" 404`
[2016-01-16 02:42:55] micmix : thanks
[2016-01-16 02:43:11] BitMEX_Wally : The second one was 404 but with wrong error message.
[2016-01-16 02:45:07] lockhedge : what happened tp Dr. Craig Steven Wright, and did he already solve his tax issues?
[2016-01-16 02:52:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 45 @ 372.79
[2016-01-16 02:52:33] lockhedge : 1 month ago Bitcoin's founder was formerly working with the NSA and today everyone believes a guy who says Bitcoin is controlled by the Chinese government
[2016-01-16 02:54:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1045 @ 375.66
[2016-01-16 02:54:41] tscha : who says bitcoin is controlled by chinese government?
[2016-01-16 02:56:02] lockhedge : *even in the best case scenario, the community will essentially accept that Bitcoin is controlled by the Chinese government and grows or shrinks at their whim.* Mike Hearn https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10908287
[2016-01-16 02:57:38] tscha : Ah, MIke. Spot on as always.
[2016-01-16 02:58:00] micmix : well he meant that the bitcoin is affected by great firewall which is in fact controlled by Chinese government
[2016-01-16 03:00:05] tscha : It's definitely a big issue, but hard to solve.
[2016-01-16 03:01:00] micmix : just think what could happen if GFW starts blocking bitcoin protocol
[2016-01-16 03:01:10] micmix : and VPNs
[2016-01-16 03:01:38] tscha : They are trying to block VPNs right now, at least some of them.
[2016-01-16 03:04:08] tscha : It doesn't take Einstein to realize that it's very dangerous for a decentralized currency if the majority of the hashpower is located inside one of the most restricted/censored networks
[2016-01-16 03:04:45] salcon : да как это работает? мануал попроще можно сделать?
[2016-01-16 03:04:59] tscha : But on the other hand, these miners invested a lot of money into Bitcoin. The issue is hard to solve.
[2016-01-16 03:05:52] lockhedge : Английский?
[2016-01-16 03:05:55] micmix : very hard to solve, economic incentives favor miner centralization in countries with lowest power cost (China)
[2016-01-16 03:08:03] zanza : Dr. Craig Steven Wright I think may be underground ?
[2016-01-16 03:08:58] tscha : "underground" aka. waterboarding in guantanamo bay
[2016-01-16 03:10:03] micmix : salcon: s fiuchersami delo imel do etogo na ok coin ili forex?
[2016-01-16 03:10:53] zanza : tscha: maybe! Australia's version of Guantanamo
[2016-01-16 03:10:56] lockhedge : 18 month ago *The Bitcoin Mining Arms Race: GHash.io and the 51% Issue* http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-mining-detente-ghash-io-51-issue/ i'd say the blockchain is more decentralized now
[2016-01-16 03:12:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 100 @ 373.78
[2016-01-16 03:13:17] salcon : из почти 300 человек ни одного русского?
[2016-01-16 03:14:37] micmix : salcon: ia tebe 3 minuty nazad vopros zadal
[2016-01-16 03:15:27] salcon : micmix: извини, не заметил. нет не имел. на битфайниксе торгую
[2016-01-16 03:16:42] salcon : micmix: в двух словах можешь объяснить как работает xbt24
[2016-01-16 03:17:29] salcon : micmix: может в скайп?
[2016-01-16 03:19:41] micmix : salcon: v obschem xbt24h pohozhe na finex no tvoia pozicia avtomaticheski zakryvaetsia v 12:00 GMT po srednei cene za poslednie polchasa do zakrytia
[2016-01-16 03:20:15] micmix : salcon: net vremeni na skype, uhozhu skoro
[2016-01-16 03:20:57] tscha : lockhedge: I don't agree. We could have 100 minepools with 1% each and it still would not be decentralized if one government could shut them all down the next day. Especially not if that government is know for radical censorship and quick actions. I'd rater have one pool having 51% in a country where decision like that undergo the democratic way of parlament/senate than the way it is now.
[2016-01-16 03:21:00] micmix : salcon: a tak vse tozhe samoe, v techenii dnia pokupaesh' i prodaesh'
[2016-01-16 03:21:03] salcon : micmix: а сам я могу закрыть позицию?
[2016-01-16 03:21:19] micmix : salcon: da, sam mozhesh' zakryt' v liuboi moment
[2016-01-16 03:21:47] salcon : micmix: почему тогда я в минусе?
[2016-01-16 03:21:53] micmix : salcon: limit/market order, tozhe samoe kak na finex
[2016-01-16 03:22:47] micmix : salcon: PNL tebe pokazyvaet primerno pribyl' po tekuschei cene
[2016-01-16 03:24:02] salcon : micmix: я вчера выставил цену 410, количество 10, нажал на красную. выставил 380, количество 10, нажал на зелёную. сегодня в минусе
[2016-01-16 03:25:00] salcon : micmix: плечо съело прибыль?
[2016-01-16 03:25:01] micmix : salcon: ty hotel prodat' po 410, no skoree vsego nikto u tebia za 410 ne kupil
[2016-01-16 03:26:20] salcon : micmix: да нуя чё первый раз. позиция открылась. я выставил ордера здесь и на файниксе на закрытие. здесь минус, на файниксе всё нормально
[2016-01-16 03:27:33] salcon : micmix: смотри что у меня написано. Balance: 0.0050 XBT Available: 0.0031 XBT
[2016-01-16 03:27:39] salcon : как так?
[2016-01-16 03:29:37] tscha : lockhedge: I never saw the +51% attack by one pool as such a big issue. What incentive would this pool have? By collecting fees, it is incentivized to maintain a healthy system. Governments on the other hand do indeed have incentives to hinder/block it.
[2016-01-16 03:30:11] lockhedge : tscha: tscha: what happens if the chinese government shuts down all bitcoin nodes (or blocks the traffic) now? the blockchain would be still alive without China?
[2016-01-16 03:30:55] salcon : micmix: ушёл?
[2016-01-16 03:31:38] lockhedge : tscha: would the effect be bigger if they shut down all exchanges? isn't the level of centralization much greater at exchange level?
[2016-01-16 03:33:12] micmix : salcon: posmotri Account -> Trade History, chto tam?
[2016-01-16 03:34:18] salcon : micmix: на скриншот ссылку здесь можно дать?
[2016-01-16 03:34:25] micmix : da
[2016-01-16 03:36:31] salcon : micmix: http://prntscr.com/9qowm7
[2016-01-16 03:37:43] salcon : micmix: кажется я что то не то делаю
[2016-01-16 03:37:57] tscha : lockhedge: sry I have to leave, my gf is mad haha
[2016-01-16 03:37:59] tscha : talk tomorrow
[2016-01-16 03:38:06] tscha : cya guys
[2016-01-16 03:38:13] lockhedge : cya
[2016-01-16 03:39:10] micmix : bye tscha
[2016-01-16 03:40:16] salcon : micmix: что скажешь?
[2016-01-16 03:41:50] micmix : salcon: ty prodal 1, 1 i 10, u tebia byla pozicia -12, ty sdelal market close, zakryl ee po $403.49
[2016-01-16 03:43:50] micmix : salcon: eto bylo v ubytok. potom prodal 10 po 430.01, kupil 10 po 402.77 (malen'kaia pribyl')
[2016-01-16 03:45:40] micmix : salcon: potom prodal 10 po $399.43 i kupil po 380. u tebia sechas ne dolzhno by otkrytoi pozicii esli ia pravil'no poschital
[2016-01-16 03:45:59] salcon : micmix: ну а почему пишет болонс 0,005, хотя на самом деле 0,0031
[2016-01-16 03:46:22] salcon : micmix: да. все позиции закрылись
[2016-01-16 03:47:37] micmix : salcon: aga, ponial chto ty imeesh' vvidu. u tebia dostupno tol'ko 0.0031 potomu chto pribyl' stanovitsia dostupna tol'ko posle togo, kak fiuchers zakrylis'
[2016-01-16 03:48:23] micmix : salcon: tvoia pribyl' s XBT24H budet dostupna posle 12:00 GMT
[2016-01-16 03:49:17] micmix : salcon: posmotri Account -> Wallet. Witheld Profit eto tvoia pribyl' kotoraia poka nedostupna
[2016-01-16 03:49:27] salcon : micmix: спасибо огромное. я с таблицей трейд хистори разобрался.
[2016-01-16 03:49:42] salcon : micmix: всё. понял
[2016-01-16 03:50:06] salcon : micmix: спасибо. помог очень. профита тебе
[2016-01-16 03:50:51] salcon : micmix: случайно не знаешь какое это время по москве?
[2016-01-16 03:50:58] micmix : salcon: ne za chto, ia budu zavtra, sprashivai esli chto
[2016-01-16 03:51:17] micmix : salcon: ne znaiu, ne v moskve
[2016-01-16 03:51:38] salcon : micmix: ок. время в инете гляну. спасибо
[2016-01-16 03:52:11] micmix : salcon: ia pobezhal, mnogo profita i nadeius' budesh' torgovat' bol'she chem 10 kontraktov :-)
[2016-01-16 03:52:27] salcon : micmix: :)
[2016-01-16 03:52:42] salcon : micmix: на криптси всё потерял
[2016-01-16 03:52:59] micmix : salcon: da, eto zasada
[2016-01-16 04:07:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 5 @ 370.31
[2016-01-16 04:11:38] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 800 @ 370.75
[2016-01-16 06:18:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 1100 @ 371.63
[2016-01-16 06:19:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 1000 @ 369.97
[2016-01-16 06:20:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 8904 @ 368.99
[2016-01-16 07:19:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 4000 @ 364.66
[2016-01-16 07:38:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2499 @ 361.19
[2016-01-16 07:38:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 500 @ 361.21
[2016-01-16 07:43:44] gustavo7 : _the rekt train is coming..._
[2016-01-16 07:46:08] rapidtrades : get f*cked bitcoin
[2016-01-16 07:47:27] gustavo7 : _...got to keep on running_
[2016-01-16 07:52:31] chromaticcr : *baby i'm a firework*
[2016-01-16 07:55:41] chromaticcr : or *like a REKTen Ball*
[2016-01-16 07:57:02] gustavo7 : haha exactly
[2016-01-16 07:59:22] Samirum : Someone help me please my deposit was still pending after 2 comfirmation
[2016-01-16 08:01:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 1099 @ 481.29
[2016-01-16 08:01:54] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 4000 @ 356.23
[2016-01-16 08:01:54] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 6000 @ 354.73
[2016-01-16 08:03:47] djuan : Damn. Regretting closing my short prematurely. Meh
[2016-01-16 08:04:17] gustavo7 : hm, ain't deposits need to be fully confirmed? don't remember them not being available early
[2016-01-16 08:04:41] djuan : One confirmation
[2016-01-16 08:05:28] djuan : Try refresh or log out and back in
[2016-01-16 08:06:02] BitMEX_Wally : gustavo7: If you have a position in a non-DPE contract (i.e. XBU) that is being liquidated, then if we see a pending deposit we will suspend liquidation. Apart from that we require 1 confirmation
[2016-01-16 08:06:02] djuan : Samirum:
[2016-01-16 08:07:11] BitMEX_Wally : Samirum: Your deposit was confirmed by our system 7 minutes ago
[2016-01-16 08:09:57] gustavo7 : oh wasn't thinking about the liquidation
[2016-01-16 08:11:24] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 2434 @ 361.39
[2016-01-16 08:11:59] gustavo7 : better close your longs at 365 i don't see it going higher today
[2016-01-16 08:13:05] rapidtrades : idk looks like a short-term bottom here
[2016-01-16 08:13:34] rapidtrades : i wouldn't go long here tho :)
[2016-01-16 08:21:48] rapidtrades : wtf didnt 365 flicker on daily
[2016-01-16 08:21:56] rapidtrades : prolly seeing things
[2016-01-16 08:23:38] rapidtrades : Ho gotta be the worst last name for a woman
[2016-01-16 08:23:58] rapidtrades : Maria Ho
[2016-01-16 08:24:59] rapidtrades : not an actual pron star, although she looks like one
[2016-01-16 08:27:49] jung1 : so we have floor at 350?
[2016-01-16 08:30:04] BitMEX_Arthur : Looks like it
[2016-01-16 08:30:16] BitMEX_Arthur : Pretty violent bounce there
[2016-01-16 08:32:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 460 @ 363.71
[2016-01-16 08:34:04] jung1 : BitMEX_Arthur: good job with all this lessons. Thanks
[2016-01-16 08:34:25] BitMEX_Arthur : Thanks, Lesson 3 will air most likely Thursday
[2016-01-16 08:34:37] BitMEX_Arthur : That is going to be meaty one
[2016-01-16 08:34:47] jung1 : any details?
[2016-01-16 08:34:57] BitMEX_Arthur : It will be about curve trading
[2016-01-16 08:35:19] jung1 : think about some bitmex forum so everyone will be able to add some questions and comments about that
[2016-01-16 08:35:50] jung1 : and would be easier to find for noe users
[2016-01-16 08:36:37] jung1 : new
[2016-01-16 08:40:42] gustavo7 : isn't there a bitmex reddit?
[2016-01-16 08:40:45] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 16 @ 360.90
[2016-01-16 08:41:16] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitmex
[2016-01-16 08:41:29] BitMEX_Arthur : there is will get all the lessons up there so people can comment and ask questions
[2016-01-16 08:49:44] Akaiapc40 : BitMEX_Arthur: thanks
[2016-01-16 08:57:25] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 14 @ 357.97
[2016-01-16 08:59:14] jung1 : coindesk price index hit 355 again
[2016-01-16 09:03:35] REKT : Have a bowl of chop-chop suey!
[2016-01-16 09:03:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 3000 @ 358.78
[2016-01-16 09:03:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 5003 @ 360.36
[2016-01-16 09:29:41] djuan : bullish now?
[2016-01-16 09:35:52] jung1 : could be
[2016-01-16 09:36:28] jung1 : 350 looks like new floor sowe can stay a bit between 355-370
[2016-01-16 09:36:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 202 @ 362.05
[2016-01-16 09:36:59] djuan : next stop 400?
[2016-01-16 09:39:03] jung1 : who knows
[2016-01-16 09:39:32] jung1 : maybe hearn will publish new post "meh just kidding. Bitcoin is awesome" and we will go up
[2016-01-16 09:40:14] djuan : i think bitcoin will do fine without him.
[2016-01-16 09:40:41] jung1 : but he was right in some things there
[2016-01-16 09:41:15] djuan : yes he was. i do think the block size needs to increase.
[2016-01-16 09:41:15] jung1 : and how we can go mainstream if one guy can affect price by 1 post
[2016-01-16 09:41:56] djuan : i just think he went about it the wrong way. too much ego (my way is right)
[2016-01-16 09:42:35] djuan : more patience was required.
[2016-01-16 09:42:56] Akaiapc40 : Spoken as he was the one and only capable to save and improve BTC
[2016-01-16 09:43:30] jung1 : he will work now with R3 and will develope new banking standard with closed blockchain
[2016-01-16 09:43:47] jung1 : if so, there will be not much space for bitcoin
[2016-01-16 09:43:48] Akaiapc40 : Probably is true but....too much ego,well said...
[2016-01-16 09:45:59] djuan : maybe something good will come of this. people will be forced to rethink how to work together to resolve this. decentralisation is going to force humans to work together. and not just expect one man or group to save the whole thing. but first there must be struggle
[2016-01-16 09:54:43] jung1 : maybe so maybe no
[2016-01-16 09:56:12] djuan : either way. its more real than politics and government who lie and keep secrets. its real. and we know exactly whats going on. and anyone can step in to help if they want
[2016-01-16 10:05:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 101 @ 361.80
[2016-01-16 10:08:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 200 @ 364.97
[2016-01-16 10:16:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 101 @ 370.84
[2016-01-16 10:22:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 500 @ 375.82
[2016-01-16 10:22:37] REKT : Getting chopped to death is fun, everyone should try it!
[2016-01-16 10:28:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 100 @ 370.14
[2016-01-16 10:28:53] gustavo7 : next target 377
[2016-01-16 10:34:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 1996 @ 370.68
[2016-01-16 10:47:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 2000 @ 374.35
[2016-01-16 10:47:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 500 @ 374.97
[2016-01-16 11:12:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 300 @ 369.84
[2016-01-16 11:25:23] gustavo7 : target missed, 370 won't hold (imho)
[2016-01-16 11:29:17] djuan : i think bitcoin will prob climb to 395ish and finally end around 280ish
[2016-01-16 11:53:20] djuan : why put in such large orders when 24H expires in 7 min?
[2016-01-16 11:55:40] habibi : for money ;)
[2016-01-16 11:56:34] djuan : ?
[2016-01-16 11:57:00] j8 : to close your position while paying less fees
[2016-01-16 11:57:48] djuan : cool trick
[2016-01-16 11:58:41] tscha : close positions
[2016-01-16 12:54:39] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: deleted cookies.. bitmex again works fast.
[2016-01-16 13:09:30] rapidtrades : yeah getting memory clogging again...guess could be okc or bitmex
[2016-01-16 13:13:25] BitMEX_Wally : If you're using Chrome, open the Chrome Task Manager and it will tell you how much memory each tab is using
[2016-01-16 13:19:21] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: mine gets up to 1.8 GB after it's open for a while.. something's gotta be leaky there
[2016-01-16 13:19:46] rapidtrades : I have 0.5 gb but I only have 2 tabs open so
[2016-01-16 13:20:06] j8 : 1.8 GB for bitmex tab only
[2016-01-16 13:20:08] rapidtrades : getting close to 0.6
[2016-01-16 13:20:31] rapidtrades : yeah agree...1-2 days ago I noticed that memory clogging reutrned
[2016-01-16 13:20:51] rapidtrades : before u could leave it all day and momeory usage would stay flat
[2016-01-16 13:21:14] tscha : Bitmex Tab has 230 MB for me which seems fine.
[2016-01-16 13:22:03] tscha : Whatsapp has 170 MB and is basically doing nothing.
[2016-01-16 13:22:07] j8 : basic or adv view? i use advanced, i think the chart is the problem
[2016-01-16 13:22:18] tscha : Advanced view + chart
[2016-01-16 13:22:23] j8 : hm.
[2016-01-16 13:22:32] rapidtrades : tscha: whatsapp? are u on mobile?
[2016-01-16 13:22:48] tscha : rapidtrades: No, Windows 7. web.whatsapp.com
[2016-01-16 13:23:55] rapidtrades : f thsi shit...I'm NOT paying a premium in a down market
[2016-01-16 13:51:34] Samirum : tscha: how long withdrawal takes
[2016-01-16 14:01:01] BitMEX_Wally : Samirum: They have been broadcast
[2016-01-16 14:45:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 101 @ 370.09
[2016-01-16 14:55:24] micmix : so with the F2Pool announcing support for 2mb blocks (in Bitcoin Classic or Core, whatever comes first), we could have block size increase as early as March
[2016-01-16 14:56:13] micmix : that's not bad, and took only small 20% price drop /s
[2016-01-16 15:05:14] micmix : 415 coins buy on Bitstamp, not bad
[2016-01-16 15:09:06] tscha : F2Pool said they support 2mb blocks, but would prefer being done it in Core.
[2016-01-16 15:10:34] tscha : I don't get that. Hardfork is hardfork, doesn't matter if Core or not. It's the same risk. This shouldn't be a criterion.
[2016-01-16 15:19:14] djuan : 106 btc order for a long position on bitstamp
[2016-01-16 15:26:13] laisee : tscha: > think F2Pool would prefer more solid team with longer history like Core guys
[2016-01-16 15:29:25] tscha : laisee: which core dev has more experience than Gavin Andresen?
[2016-01-16 15:30:37] laisee : tscha: > I agree with you on that. But some chinese miners seem "close" to the Core team and relucatant to try a new one.
[2016-01-16 15:33:29] BitMEX_Sam : Seems so far that they're willing to try something new
[2016-01-16 15:34:47] tscha : Core had more than half a year to resolve the issue of blocksize, and here we are. They clearly failed. I don't know why anyone should prefer a team that brought us into this situation over Gavin's team.
[2016-01-16 15:35:04] tscha : But yeah, at least they are not reluctant to switching anymore.
[2016-01-16 15:37:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 50 @ 369.13
[2016-01-16 15:40:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 900 @ 367.53
[2016-01-16 15:42:17] BitMEX_Sam : I've been watching the Classic team's Slack group - they're really active and laser-focused
[2016-01-16 15:42:34] BitMEX_Sam : The pitch will be bigger blocks, nothing more; not even fixing RBF or anything like that... just a minimal changeset to get it out the door
[2016-01-16 15:55:49] laisee : if they focus and stay close to the major stakeholders it could work out for everyone. A bit of wailing and crying from former Core guys maybe.
[2016-01-16 16:16:24] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2000 @ 366.72
[2016-01-16 16:18:04] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 2 @ 366.66 :punch: :whale:
[2016-01-16 16:24:28] djuan : Anyone around? I have a question
[2016-01-16 16:24:35] chromaticcr : yo
[2016-01-16 16:24:51] djuan : Yo!
[2016-01-16 16:25:11] djuan : Lets say I reckon I can predict the future
[2016-01-16 16:26:36] djuan : if I open 1000 contracts for a long position now. And then 1000 for a short position at 395. Will my 1000 long close automatically and my short take hold?
[2016-01-16 16:27:09] chromaticcr : the short at 395 will close the long position
[2016-01-16 16:27:15] djuan : Or do I have to physically do it
[2016-01-16 16:27:29] djuan : Co thanks
[2016-01-16 16:27:42] djuan : Cool
[2016-01-16 16:27:47] djuan : not co
[2016-01-16 16:29:15] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah - contracts always net: buy 500, sell 250, you're +250
[2016-01-16 16:29:23] BitMEX_Sam : Or buy 500, sell 750, you're -250.
[2016-01-16 16:29:27] chromaticcr : *saves you fee* ;)
[2016-01-16 16:30:23] djuan : Excellent!
[2016-01-16 16:37:03] zanza : BitMEX_Sam: does the deposit address act as a proof of reserve also ?
[2016-01-16 16:37:29] BitMEX_Sam : zanza: Not exactly, because it doesn't always reflect your balance
[2016-01-16 16:37:45] BitMEX_Sam : Let's say you deposit 1 BTC, and double your money, we use other addresses to fund your withdrawal if you decide to pull out
[2016-01-16 16:37:56] BitMEX_Sam : The system is always net 0 of course - it's just that looking at your address is not the full story.
[2016-01-16 16:37:56] zanza : ok got it, thanks!
[2016-01-16 16:38:36] BitMEX_Sam : We were considering a real-time proof of reserve system a while back, but there still is not anything compelling out there that doesn't require hot keys; our keys are offline so it's much more difficult to have them sign merkle trees at will
[2016-01-16 16:39:53] zanza : yeah offline signing is good
[2016-01-16 16:43:50] zanza : looks like Classic almost has 75%, things should get interesting
[2016-01-16 16:46:04] BitMEX_Sam : Definitely
[2016-01-16 16:48:25] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 3000 @ 369.79
[2016-01-16 16:55:39] dorothy490 : BitMEX_Sam: your chart seem to be doesnt reflecting actual trades? I got liquidated yesterday by price 397.05 but I can't see this price ever on graph at 21:12 (time of liquidation)
[2016-01-16 16:56:06] BitMEX_Sam : dorothy490: See https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation#fair-price-marking
[2016-01-16 16:56:25] BitMEX_Sam : Liquidations and margin calculations are done on the index price + calculated basis, not the last trade
[2016-01-16 16:56:45] dorothy490 : why I can't see price on graph tough?
[2016-01-16 16:58:53] zanza : becasue the graph only shows trade values
[2016-01-16 16:59:04] BitMEX_Sam : Because the graph shows trades, not the index. You can see the index at https://tradeblock.com/markets/index/ or https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT
[2016-01-16 16:59:31] BitMEX_Sam : That doesn't show the fair price adjustment though, which is an omission in our reporting that we're aware of; we're working on a way to put that on the chart and show historical values
[2016-01-16 16:59:57] BitMEX_Sam : Regardless I can assure you that the adjustment system is 100% automatic, and we publish the methodology at https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation#fair-price-marking
[2016-01-16 17:00:38] dorothy490 : so you dont show liquidation movements on chart
[2016-01-16 17:01:07] BitMEX_Sam : Liquidation movements?
[2016-01-16 17:01:20] BitMEX_Sam : The chart shows trades. If a trade happened, it's on the chart.
[2016-01-16 17:03:38] zanza : liquidations here are not market orders
[2016-01-16 17:03:48] dorothy490 : so I got liquidated 2016-01-15 21:12:26 (dont know if its my timezone?) 7000 order by price 397.05
[2016-01-16 17:03:58] dorothy490 : but cant see it on chart
[2016-01-16 17:05:06] BitMEX_Sam : Right - that doesn't mean the order was entered exactly at that time, nor that it executed immediately
[2016-01-16 17:05:11] zanza : when you have an active order, there will be a "liq. price"
[2016-01-16 17:06:02] dorothy490 : I got liquidation message at 22:12 GMT+3
[2016-01-16 17:06:13] zanza : yes you stated that
[2016-01-16 17:06:25] dorothy490 : what timezone is on the chart?
[2016-01-16 17:06:43] zanza : which contract?
[2016-01-16 17:06:49] dorothy490 : 100
[2016-01-16 17:07:06] zanza : the 24H?
[2016-01-16 17:07:23] dorothy490 : yes
[2016-01-16 17:08:10] dorothy490 : chat doesnt have any trades over 396 after 18:30
[2016-01-16 17:14:00] BitMEX_Sam : dorothy490: Your liquidation price was 395.11, not 397.05
[2016-01-16 17:14:29] BitMEX_Sam : See your email.
[2016-01-16 17:14:57] dorothy490 : trade history shows 397.05 nevertheless chart doesnt show anything like that at 21:15 and further
[2016-01-16 17:16:04] dorothy490 : 016-01-15 21:12:26 XBT24H Buy 7000 7000 0 397.05 397.05 27.7935 XBT
[2016-01-16 17:20:47] dorothy490 : also look for the trade hitory 0- it shows at 16:25 price was around 373 but you wouldn;t find it in char
[2016-01-16 17:20:51] dorothy490 : so your chart is broken
[2016-01-16 17:21:39] dorothy490 : ah now I see is that your chart is GMT0.. need to reconsider few things..
[2016-01-16 17:22:36] tscha : dorothy490: change timeszone in chart settings
[2016-01-16 17:23:44] BitMEX_Sam : It should set itself automatically but some locales have issues
[2016-01-16 17:24:02] BitMEX_Sam : The value in the trade history is the value that the position was taken over at, which is always your bankruptcy price, not your liquidation price (which is nearer)
[2016-01-16 17:26:25] dorothy490 : ok once I figured chart (btw changing timzone doesnt helps me at all) I feel less butthurt :)
[2016-01-16 17:37:00] BitMEX_Sam : :) Sorry about the chart not adjusting, it sounds odd but it literally doesn't support certain locales
[2016-01-16 17:37:09] BitMEX_Sam : It's architected strangely (not our code, comes from TradingView)
[2016-01-16 17:37:43] BitMEX_Sam : It may be easier to set if you fullscreen the chart.
[2016-01-16 17:37:54] tscha : changing the timezone fixed it for me interestingly
[2016-01-16 17:38:10] tscha : oh "certain locales", didn't read properly
[2016-01-16 17:42:34] zanza : butthurt is part of the magic of Bitcoin trading
[2016-01-16 18:12:45] wspbtc : no socialized losses yesterday? Good job bitmex!
[2016-01-16 18:16:12] zanza : H16 has DPE now
[2016-01-16 18:16:18] zanza : but 24H held
[2016-01-16 18:28:33] jung1 : hear is quite cool guy
[2016-01-16 18:28:59] jung1 : my wallet and I like him
[2016-01-16 18:29:16] jung1 : hearn
[2016-01-16 18:49:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 3405 @ 372.68
[2016-01-16 18:52:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 3995 @ 374.53
[2016-01-16 19:07:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 35 @ 375.61
[2016-01-16 19:07:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 6633 @ 375.84
[2016-01-16 19:08:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 630 @ 376.49
[2016-01-16 19:31:10] Akaiapc40 : mega collective rekt
[2016-01-16 19:43:08] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 100 @ 377.81
[2016-01-16 19:44:12] gielbier : superreks
[2016-01-16 19:44:17] gielbier : superrekt
[2016-01-16 19:45:47] jung1 : damn I love bitcoin
[2016-01-16 19:45:58] jung1 : we're going back to 430
[2016-01-16 19:46:35] djuan : jung1: 430? that would be great
[2016-01-16 19:46:54] jung1 : shure
[2016-01-16 19:47:03] jung1 : im long since 360
[2016-01-16 19:47:05] jung1 : hehe
[2016-01-16 19:47:50] djuan : I'm long since 375 but I've been watching tv. just caught this at the right time
[2016-01-16 19:48:48] djuan : good luck ??
[2016-01-16 19:49:53] jung1 : im on 7d so lets wait couple of days
[2016-01-16 19:50:07] djuan : I'm on 24h
[2016-01-16 19:50:18] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH16`: Buy 30 @ 448.79
[2016-01-16 19:50:18] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM16`: Buy 50 @ 536.63
[2016-01-16 20:08:22] zanza : bear slaghter?
[2016-01-16 20:09:12] Swedishnut : might be DiCaprio surving the weekend and about to rampage?
[2016-01-16 20:10:42] sleger : dpe gone on h16, lucky bitmex
[2016-01-16 20:10:50] zanza : :D
[2016-01-16 20:10:58] zanza : woo hoo!
[2016-01-16 20:11:00] jung1 : yeah looks like satoshi is pissed off
[2016-01-16 20:11:15] zanza : wow, i 1 person bought it all
[2016-01-16 20:11:35] zanza : 34675
[2016-01-16 20:11:41] jung1 : still cheap
[2016-01-16 20:11:44] jung1 : good move
[2016-01-16 20:11:59] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 100 @ 385.93
[2016-01-16 20:12:02] jung1 : h16 will hit easy 500 next week
[2016-01-16 20:12:22] zanza : you sound like you are selling something jung1 :)
[2016-01-16 20:13:07] jung1 : im selling happiness
[2016-01-16 20:13:25] jung1 : look for me on openbazar in LSD section
[2016-01-16 20:13:37] zanza : :)
[2016-01-16 20:14:50] djuan : jung1: lol I'm getting some too
[2016-01-16 20:15:41] jung1 : wtf bitcoin
[2016-01-16 20:15:49] jung1 : 400-350-400 in one day
[2016-01-16 20:15:54] jung1 : <3
[2016-01-16 20:18:28] Swedishnut : yup 1 guy leaving BTC isn't a killshot. So many more interested than those frustrated
[2016-01-16 20:22:44] djuan : https://twitter.com/BTCDJS/status/688412513797550080
[2016-01-16 20:22:53] djuan : this is very funny
[2016-01-16 20:26:02] sleger : maybe not for jews
[2016-01-16 20:27:20] djuan : no i suppose not.
[2016-01-16 20:30:00] jung1 : we're growing too fast
[2016-01-16 20:30:19] jung1 : a little correction before 400?
[2016-01-16 20:31:08] tscha : hopefully
[2016-01-16 20:31:23] gouda : nah
[2016-01-16 20:31:36] gouda : we didn't get a correction that $100+ sell off
[2016-01-16 20:31:49] gouda : i think we are going to go test 400
[2016-01-16 20:32:04] gouda : and either fail and new low coming and 300 next
[2016-01-16 20:32:11] gouda : or megabull
[2016-01-16 20:32:20] gouda : either way
[2016-01-16 20:32:27] gouda : good money to be had :D
[2016-01-16 20:34:22] jung1 : yep
[2016-01-16 20:34:29] jung1 : up or down
[2016-01-16 20:34:34] jung1 : still making money
[2016-01-16 20:34:40] jung1 : ALL HAIL BITMEX
[2016-01-16 20:38:12] habibi : nice swings on "fair" price on m16:D 60 dollars or even more
[2016-01-16 20:39:16] djuan : small correction incoming
[2016-01-16 20:40:29] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 74 @ 384.88
[2016-01-16 20:44:10] jung1 : not yet
[2016-01-16 21:02:00] djuan : she wouldn't just drop straight down would she?
[2016-01-16 21:15:10] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1500 @ 378.72
[2016-01-16 21:18:10] jung1 : ok Im done for today
[2016-01-16 21:18:15] jung1 : see ya
[2016-01-16 21:26:01] itmikeyg : do you guys know where i can see charts for bitumen?
[2016-01-16 21:26:04] itmikeyg : bitmex**
[2016-01-16 21:26:33] j8 : tradingview or cryptowat.ch
[2016-01-16 21:26:39] itmikeyg : thank you Sur
[2016-01-16 21:27:28] j8 : itmikeyg: np, https://www.tradingview.com/chart/A0lh95W1/
[2016-01-16 21:28:20] j8 : whoops that didn't work out
[2016-01-16 21:28:31] itmikeyg : i think it worked for me...
[2016-01-16 21:28:51] itmikeyg : nevermind
[2016-01-16 21:29:22] j8 : anyways if you search bitmex you'll find them
[2016-01-16 21:30:18] itmikeyg : ok cool
[2016-01-16 21:53:36] zanza : is someone running a 500 bot on the M16
[2016-01-16 21:55:35] sleger : yes
[2016-01-16 23:18:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 4500 @ 383.72
[2016-01-16 23:19:38] tscha : short moontest incoming
[2016-01-16 23:20:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 4000 @ 386.10
[2016-01-16 23:21:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 100 @ 387.17
[2016-01-16 23:21:17] micmix : so MMM China announced restart, to the moon again?
[2016-01-16 23:22:08] zanza : lol
[2016-01-16 23:38:30] jung1 : http://www.businessinsider.com/scientists-prove-comets-cant-explain-alien-megastructure-2016-1 : O
[2016-01-16 23:49:57] tscha : huh, just realized you can get sms-notfications from cryptowat.ch for free basically
[2016-01-16 23:51:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1000 @ 389.49
[2016-01-17 00:04:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1500 @ 386.05
[2016-01-17 00:11:44] rapidtrades : micmix: rly?
[2016-01-17 00:15:34] rapidtrades : I wanna thank the gods of BTFD..for giving me this chance to put more shorts on
[2016-01-17 00:22:09] gouda : shorts
[2016-01-17 00:22:15] gouda : u think this is going down already
[2016-01-17 00:22:26] rapidtrades : when did it stop going down?
[2016-01-17 00:22:33] rapidtrades : did u forget this morning?
[2016-01-17 00:22:39] gouda : yes
[2016-01-17 00:22:51] gouda : what time frame you trading
[2016-01-17 00:23:02] rapidtrades : daily
[2016-01-17 00:23:03] habibi : he trading daily candles
[2016-01-17 00:23:08] habibi : on daily contracts :D
[2016-01-17 00:23:16] rapidtrades : nah :)
[2016-01-17 00:23:20] gouda : i think there is a chance for 400 before heading down
[2016-01-17 00:23:29] gouda : thats where im going to short the house
[2016-01-17 00:23:53] rapidtrades : well gl...I'd rather not be left at the stattion again....obligatory f finex, get cancer finex
[2016-01-17 00:24:13] gouda : well top of triangle is 410
[2016-01-17 00:24:33] rapidtrades : I don't ''do'' itriangle
[2016-01-17 00:24:33] gouda : hit resistance fail
[2016-01-17 00:24:42] rapidtrades : triangles
[2016-01-17 00:25:06] rapidtrades : I don't do spelling either apparently
[2016-01-17 00:26:47] gouda : what does one rapidtrades do then