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[2016-01-06 02:47:37] sleger : I am just a market participant
[2016-01-06 02:47:43] GerryHYH : :)
[2016-01-06 02:47:47] sleger : but happy to provide quotes up to 500btc either side
[2016-01-06 02:48:30] GerryHYH : so you're more of a maker? :P
[2016-01-06 02:48:48] sleger : I have a bot maker running but it only shows about 10btc each side
[2016-01-06 02:48:59] sleger : If one needs more he can ask and I shall deliver
[2016-01-06 02:49:16] GerryHYH : fascinating stuff! I've always been the taker
[2016-01-06 02:49:34] GerryHYH : but fascinated on how maker operates
[2016-01-06 02:50:29] GerryHYH : I'm not very good with computers, but does Bot need something like API to operate?
[2016-01-06 02:52:23] sleger : I make prices I am not a school teacher though
[2016-01-06 02:52:40] GerryHYH : test
[2016-01-06 02:53:01] GerryHYH : only asking :(
[2016-01-06 02:54:41] GerryHYH : Is there any charts I can see btw?
[2016-01-06 02:58:20] hobbskevin : hey all I'm new to this site I was wondering if there was an easier way to close out your positions than to have to just put new sell orders in?
[2016-01-06 02:59:36] j8 : hobbskevin: there are the Close Limit and Close Market order types
[2016-01-06 03:00:00] hobbskevin : ahh I see thank you.
[2016-01-06 03:00:08] coolcatgee : are you long or short? who many contracts?
[2016-01-06 03:00:17] hobbskevin : long 5000
[2016-01-06 03:01:53] coolcatgee : yea thats a easy market close, if it was 20k you'd be going a few dollars deep
[2016-01-06 03:02:33] hobbskevin : Yeah I am just getting used to this style of trading
[2016-01-06 03:02:43] coolcatgee : but even with market close you can get burned, because the bots are constantly readjusting
[2016-01-06 03:03:09] hobbskevin : really good to know. so your advice is to set a take profit and stop loss?
[2016-01-06 03:04:55] arbitrage001 : any guide on how to write bot?
[2016-01-06 03:04:57] coolcatgee : that is a good strategy but sometimes its nice to watch the market overreact and seize opportunities, if your looking for a quick close use the close limit and put a price that the order book can handle
[2016-01-06 03:07:45] hobbskevin : thx I appreciate that
[2016-01-06 03:08:16] GerryHYH : Guys, where do I see the charts ?
[2016-01-06 03:08:52] hobbskevin : click on "chart" in the order controls
[2016-01-06 03:09:28] GerryHYH : Very kind Kevin, thanks for your reply
[2016-01-06 03:09:37] GerryHYH : sorrie, where is order controls located at?
[2016-01-06 03:10:28] hobbskevin : do you see on your trading dashboard in the top right
[2016-01-06 03:10:43] micmix : GerryHYH: if you are familiar with trading, I would recommend switching to advanced view: click on your username in the top-right corner and select advanced layout
[2016-01-06 03:11:10] GerryHYH : Nevermind, found it
[2016-01-06 03:11:16] GerryHYH : Thanks Kevin and micmix
[2016-01-06 03:11:33] GerryHYH : (i'm getting more and more impressed with BitMex :D)
[2016-01-06 03:15:24] BitMEX_Sam : Glad you like it, GerryHYH
[2016-01-06 03:15:37] BitMEX_Sam : Re: bots, we have a sample at https://github.com/BitMEX/market-maker/
[2016-01-06 03:16:52] arbitrage001 : ok thamk you
[2016-01-06 03:27:39] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 355 @ 430.04
[2016-01-06 03:40:29] gouda : rip houb broke 2800
[2016-01-06 03:40:35] gouda : hit 2791
[2016-01-06 03:42:13] Swedishnut : long way from broken.
[2016-01-06 03:46:01] gouda : will see :D
[2016-01-06 03:46:11] gouda : panic time :D
[2016-01-06 03:46:19] Swedishnut : broken being btc doesn't work any more :P
[2016-01-06 03:46:53] gouda : LOL ;D
[2016-01-06 03:48:09] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 500 @ 428.14
[2016-01-06 03:48:09] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 450 @ 426.81
[2016-01-06 03:48:09] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 10000 @ 426.86
[2016-01-06 03:48:26] Swedishnut : well we are a LONG way from 161 from last year in Jan
[2016-01-06 03:48:29] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 50 @ 426.33
[2016-01-06 03:48:39] gouda : :D we are for now
[2016-01-06 03:48:40] gouda : lol
[2016-01-06 05:15:23] babybaby : where is ahbibi
[2016-01-06 05:28:58] zanza : habibi busted out
[2016-01-06 05:31:21] babybaby : great
[2016-01-06 05:31:24] babybaby : he deserved it
[2016-01-06 05:33:42] Swedishnut : Only folks who truly deserve to bust are those printing "money" without audit.
[2016-01-06 05:43:49] kingscrown : so who reads http://fuk.io blog
[2016-01-06 06:45:20] zanza : omg again really kings
[2016-01-06 06:58:53] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 6000 @ 430.97
[2016-01-06 06:58:53] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 7 @ 431.04
[2016-01-06 07:00:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 4901 @ 431.37
[2016-01-06 07:12:26] Swedishnut : POTATO :}
[2016-01-06 08:08:12] laisee : I say POTOTOE
[2016-01-06 08:08:43] Yepachuchu : I say POTOOTER
[2016-01-06 08:09:18] laisee : spelling contest ... winder gets the rekkage from next liquidation by rapidtrades, or sledger
[2016-01-06 08:09:49] Yepachuchu : winner?
[2016-01-06 08:09:58] wurstgelee : no, winder
[2016-01-06 08:10:04] wurstgelee : its a spelling contest
[2016-01-06 08:10:06] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-01-06 08:11:43] rapidtrades : laisee: good luck with that, I've only had one LIQ here, when I first started
[2016-01-06 08:12:13] laisee : so you don't count all those busts with qty < 5?
[2016-01-06 08:14:42] cataquil : while the dollar clobbers other fx, btcusd holds steady
[2016-01-06 08:17:37] rapidtrades : well ''clobbering'' in fx is 2-3% moves
[2016-01-06 08:17:46] rapidtrades : for bitcoin that's like $12, so nothing
[2016-01-06 08:28:16] rapidtrades : Don't you hate it when rich douchebags enter the stage on a Segway?
[2016-01-06 08:28:28] rapidtrades : You don't look cool you pretentious douche
[2016-01-06 08:38:27] laisee : rapidtrades: > you trade FX, right?
[2016-01-06 08:42:16] rapidtrades : yeah
[2016-01-06 10:40:00] zanza : wow oil getting rekt
[2016-01-06 10:40:07] zanza : snackycoins u still in oil ?
[2016-01-06 10:41:01] tscha : test :)
[2016-01-06 10:41:11] tscha : cool, that update did really fix it
[2016-01-06 10:41:44] rapidtrades : f*ck oil
[2016-01-06 10:43:37] zanza : any suggestions for trading rapidtrades ?
[2016-01-06 10:43:42] zanza : i took a loss on USDRUB
[2016-01-06 10:43:55] rapidtrades : I'm long the usd/rub
[2016-01-06 10:44:03] zanza : :o
[2016-01-06 10:44:10] zanza : fk, what is your target
[2016-01-06 10:44:12] zanza : i was shor
[2016-01-06 10:44:45] rapidtrades : no target, following the trend
[2016-01-06 10:44:57] rapidtrades : stop at 69 atm
[2016-01-06 10:46:22] rapidtrades : it's prolly too late to long here though...I've been in for almost 1 month now
[2016-01-06 11:57:47] tscha : rapidtrades: how long have you been trading overall? do you also have a cfa certificate?
[2016-01-06 12:45:25] sleger : " laisee: spelling contest ... winder gets the rekkage from next liquidation by rapidtrades, or sledger"
[2016-01-06 12:45:48] sleger : laisee: looks like you lose first, there is no sleDger !
[2016-01-06 13:28:04] tscha : sleger: not our fault that you had a typo during registration
[2016-01-06 13:32:37] sleger : somone ate a clown today
[2016-01-06 15:17:50] zanza : rapidtrades: if you are still holding USDRUB you made good moeny today
[2016-01-06 15:20:57] zanza : so 430 is the price
[2016-01-06 15:21:10] zanza : it will break above 500 or below 330 from here
[2016-01-06 15:33:35] tscha : 2016 is not starting well
[2016-01-06 15:35:14] tscha : I don't care about north korea's hydrogen bomb test, neither do I care about the incidents in cologne or the conflict between Saudi-Arabia and Iran...
[2016-01-06 15:35:20] tscha : it's the low volume on bitmex that really bugs me
[2016-01-06 15:37:18] tscha : newspapers should set their priorites right.
[2016-01-06 16:19:45] blackwhite : sleger: Sorry, what was that about? My scrollbar is limited.
[2016-01-06 16:20:09] blackwhite : some market making revelation?
[2016-01-06 16:22:11] sleger : blackwhite: how should i know what you're talking about ?
[2016-01-06 16:28:07] blackwhite : "I make prices" talk :). the first message in this list.
[2016-01-06 16:29:17] sleger : Yes I gave some big secret out, but now it's too late, the chat hid them ;)
[2016-01-06 16:30:30] tscha : blackwhite: click on "view archive" on top left to get the chat archive of last 1-2 days
[2016-01-06 16:30:37] tscha : top left of trollbox*
[2016-01-06 16:32:07] blackwhite : tscha: thanks|
[2016-01-06 16:32:23] sleger : and then you can ask tschwa why he is so afraid of saying what size his bot quotes
[2016-01-06 16:33:45] tscha : sleger: I already told you the size differs. Don't know why you still keep asking. But I can tell you it ranges from 200 to 4000.
[2016-01-06 16:34:25] tscha : Don't know whats so interesting about that to be honest. Are you smarter now?
[2016-01-06 16:37:07] sleger : no but I know which size you quote
[2016-01-06 16:37:21] tscha : right now?
[2016-01-06 16:38:35] sleger : no I meant it cant hurt
[2016-01-06 16:38:45] sleger : to know, curiosity etc...
[2016-01-06 16:39:20] tscha : glad I satisfied your curiosity :)
[2016-01-06 16:39:29] sleger : i quote 2000 because there are rarely bigger taker orders and if something goes wrong i dont end up with an order for 30k unmanaged by the algo
[2016-01-06 16:40:36] tscha : sleger: if you increase the spread depending on your current position, it's hard to end up with 30k, even if you quote 5k orders
[2016-01-06 16:41:09] tscha : but yeah, on very low volume like this, 5k maybe isn't a good idea
[2016-01-06 16:41:15] sleger : i was explaining why i dont just put 30k instead of my 2k
[2016-01-06 16:41:50] sleger : today since settlement my bot traded .... 0
[2016-01-06 16:49:39] zanza : if MM was always profitable, wouldn't the house just be MM ?
[2016-01-06 16:50:07] arbitrage001 : being MM has risk
[2016-01-06 16:50:41] arbitrage001 : house should focus on improving platform and services
[2016-01-06 16:50:59] arbitrage001 : much better profit anyway
[2016-01-06 16:53:22] charlton : Hello, is there a way to automatically roll over XBT24H contracts in perpetuity? does it cost?
[2016-01-06 16:55:21] sleger : zanza: that doesnt mean anything, some MM bot make money and some lose
[2016-01-06 16:55:39] BitMEX_Sam : charlton: Sorry, there is no way to automatically roll over; if you want to hold a longer-dated future, try the weeklies or quarterlies
[2016-01-06 16:55:43] sleger : charlton: not that I know of, you'd have to use a bot for that
[2016-01-06 16:56:23] charlton : Ok thank you! yeah I was looking for a way
[2016-01-06 16:56:37] charlton : just to simply go long in an open-ended way
[2016-01-06 18:36:14] tscha : BitMEX_Sam: by the way, the little windows-hotfix did indeed fix the emoji issues... works now
[2016-01-06 18:36:38] tscha : they are ugly as hell though, will figure out later how I can use customized sets
[2016-01-06 19:03:07] BitMEX_Sam : tscha: :) Glad it's working, I agree they're not the best but they're built-in
[2016-01-06 19:04:09] tscha : BitMEX_Sam: http://imgur.com/ObSUmiX
[2016-01-06 19:04:47] tscha : not sure if this is an improvement to the squares before :D
[2016-01-06 19:04:51] BitMEX_Sam : Wow
[2016-01-06 19:04:54] BitMEX_Sam : That is ugly as sin.
[2016-01-06 19:05:16] tscha : it's better if the text is not bold... but yeah, will try to get a different set somehow :D
[2016-01-06 19:05:19] BitMEX_Sam : http://i.imgur.com/Eoqc6pi.jpg
[2016-01-06 19:06:08] tscha : http://imgur.com/l4Pvrqj better if not bold, but still cancerish
[2016-01-06 19:09:59] rapidtrades : mmm cancer
[2016-01-06 19:12:38] rapidtrades : who's MM is quoting the 6ks
[2016-01-06 19:15:40] tscha : BitMEX_Sam: downloaded a chrome extension, now I have the same ones as you
[2016-01-06 19:15:55] tscha : rapidtrades: prolly @sledger
[2016-01-06 19:31:57] sleger : Didnt I just tell you 3 times over the past 2 days that mine is quoting 2k ?
[2016-01-06 19:54:57] zanza : Crude 33's :o
[2016-01-06 19:56:08] Swedishnut : yeah cheap gas for all since we have such a glut
[2016-01-06 20:17:52] lockhedge : What do you think, will these companies still believe in 2016 that "blockchain is great but we build our own without Bitcoin"? http://technical.ly/brooklyn/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2015/11/finservicesfeaturebtc.jpg
[2016-01-06 20:18:28] lockhedge : https://twitter.com/RobotFinance/status/684819732353183745
[2016-01-06 21:14:26] rapidtrades : noones selling
[2016-01-06 21:24:11] rapidtrades : Kinda surprising how the last rally ended huh? I would've expected a big crash like last time
[2016-01-06 21:25:35] sleger : Anyone besides me ever replies to you ?
[2016-01-06 21:25:52] tscha : I just wanted to... what rally?
[2016-01-06 21:26:29] rapidtrades : the one from 320 to 460
[2016-01-06 21:26:55] sleger : 310 to 475 ... don't you always use bitfinex as reference usually ?
[2016-01-06 21:31:38] rapidtrades : no okc
[2016-01-06 21:31:51] tscha : I use many exchanges as reference, finex is just one
[2016-01-06 21:31:54] tscha : of that rally.. ok
[2016-01-06 21:32:24] rapidtrades : finex is prolly better if ur hedging or arbing here....for some reason the index doesn't like okc
[2016-01-06 21:32:58] rapidtrades : it's most of the volume for spot usd but gets like 15- 20% most of the time
[2016-01-06 21:36:44] tscha : this is because the okc price is less in line with other exchanges most of the time, that's why it gets deweighted
[2016-01-06 21:38:26] rapidtrades : that would explain it...still doesn't make a lot of sense...volume should trump other factors imo
[2016-01-06 21:40:48] micmix : not sure why they are using tradeblock index, they should use the entry price of my XBT24H position instead. that way I will never be in red :-)
[2016-01-06 21:43:21] sleger : I'd rather have them use 1/2 bitfinex + 1/2 okcoin usd than this index
[2016-01-06 21:43:38] rapidtrades : agreed
[2016-01-06 21:44:23] rapidtrades : but weren't u complaining when I shat on coinbase&stamp?
[2016-01-06 21:44:44] tscha : i like stamp... but itbit is pretty pointless in this index
[2016-01-06 21:45:38] rapidtrades : low volume high fees. verification...stamp is pretty shitty
[2016-01-06 21:46:42] micmix : looks like another slow day :-( I have only 42 trades since the settlement
[2016-01-06 21:47:30] rapidtrades : dam that seems really low for MM?
[2016-01-06 21:49:12] micmix : considering that my bot was counterparty to over 90% of all taker orders that's very low
[2016-01-06 21:49:34] rapidtrades : lol....sounds about right
[2016-01-06 21:49:41] micmix : (talking about XBT24H)
[2016-01-06 21:49:44] rapidtrades : been waiting to get my bids filled all day
[2016-01-06 21:50:15] rapidtrades : HERE's a discount.....there's just ONE problem
[2016-01-06 22:17:37] sleger : My bot didnt do one trade, and on high volume days it's about 10% of volume
[2016-01-06 22:18:36] tscha : my bot did like 10-15, but maker only
[2016-01-06 22:28:06] micmix : just to compare, the similar bot running on okc btc/cny does about 20 trades per minute
[2016-01-06 22:28:33] micmix : on a slow day like today
[2016-01-06 22:29:01] tscha : micmix: is it harder for you to make profit on okc btc/cny or here?
[2016-01-06 22:29:42] tscha : I know there are no fees on okc.cn, but isn't it pretty competetive compared to here?
[2016-01-06 22:29:53] tscha : competitive*
[2016-01-06 22:30:10] micmix : the profit as a % of volume is much lower on okc than here
[2016-01-06 22:30:35] micmix : but of course the volumes are much higher on okc
[2016-01-06 22:31:35] tscha : I am thinking about letting my bot trade on okc.cn.. would need to implement fix though, which would take some time for a programming-noob like me
[2016-01-06 22:32:25] micmix : are you using Java? there is a very good fix lib for Java: http://www.quickfixj.org/
[2016-01-06 22:33:58] micmix : there is a java sample on okc that uses quickfix: https://github.com/OKCoin/fix
[2016-01-06 22:34:18] micmix : ok, the link should be https://github.com/ O K Coin/fix
[2016-01-06 22:36:07] tscha : micmix: yeah I am using java. that looks very nice, thank you
[2016-01-06 22:36:53] tscha : if I actually do trade there, this will save me many many hours
[2016-01-06 22:37:10] micmix : Should be very easy to port your bot to okc using quickfix. I'm using quickfix port to C#, it's very good
[2016-01-06 22:38:09] tscha : Very cool. Well I am currently rewriting my bot completely. Reading a good book about code structure atm and realized my code is a pain in the ass to maintain.
[2016-01-06 22:39:56] tscha : The good thing about Java though is, that there is a lib for everything imaginable
[2016-01-06 22:40:15] rapidtrades : what's the deal with this bot on okc usd that puts up 100 BTC buy walls
[2016-01-06 22:40:23] rapidtrades : why so big and why only buys
[2016-01-06 22:41:03] rapidtrades : never let's them get executed much
[2016-01-06 23:05:05] lockhedge : decentralizing a Bitcoin index... BIX is now separately calculated in LA and Frankfurt US users should use: http://la.robotfinance.org/api/bix_alpha/ EU users go here: http://frankfurt.robotfinance.org/api/bix_alpha/
[2016-01-06 23:06:27] lockhedge : Websocket demo on https://robotfinance.org/bix/ currently uses our server in Frankfurt and Pusher's EU cluster, more locations will follow
[2016-01-06 23:15:45] tscha : lockhedge: very cool :)
[2016-01-06 23:37:26] lockhedge : tscha: thanks :)
[2016-01-06 23:53:56] sleger : lockhedge: very nice
[2016-01-06 23:56:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 5069 @ 428.26
[2016-01-07 00:12:00] lockhedge : sleger: ty, any suggestions for new features/locations would be appreciated
[2016-01-07 00:28:02] habibi : every night someone do the same
[2016-01-07 00:28:11] habibi : and basically last few days he was wrong :D
[2016-01-07 00:45:47] sleger : Hmm 100k tempting
[2016-01-07 00:46:02] sleger : im on my phone though not easy to trade ...
[2016-01-07 01:14:40] lockhedge : BIX websocket GUI demo now available from both locations (using different Pusher.com clusters) https://frankfurt.robotfinance.org/bix/ https://la.robotfinance.org/bix/
[2016-01-07 01:17:14] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 44 @ 427.45
[2016-01-07 01:27:53] HowDoge : lockhedge: notably less latency for me. thanks ! UK based
[2016-01-07 01:53:22] singularity321 : shanghai composite just dropped 5.5% in opening 10 mins
[2016-01-07 01:55:09] BitMEX_Sam : Decent live chart http://www.ig.com/uk/ig-indices/china-a50
[2016-01-07 01:55:39] singularity321 : cheers @BitMEX_Sam
[2016-01-07 01:56:48] singularity321 : 3 minth low for it
[2016-01-07 01:56:52] singularity321 : *month
[2016-01-07 01:58:51] singularity321 : -6% now
[2016-01-07 01:58:55] singularity321 : will be halted soon
[2016-01-07 02:04:58] singularity321 : hehe just put a news story on from bloomberg and the guy says "with exception of bitcoin... all asset classes has been poor" :P
[2016-01-07 02:04:59] singularity321 : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2016-01-06/marc-faber-we-have-colossal-credit-bubble-in-china
[2016-01-07 02:09:48] BitMEX_Arthur : Nice
[2016-01-07 02:11:25] singularity321 : Always nice to hear bitcoin in the wild
[2016-01-07 02:11:57] singularity321 : It's hard to judge if it's gaining ground when you go looking for it every day
[2016-01-07 02:16:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 3200 @ 429.99
[2016-01-07 02:19:47] jung1 : yeah
[2016-01-07 02:19:52] jung1 : could be fun
[2016-01-07 02:20:58] jung1 : +people after "big short" movie would like to trade as well
[2016-01-07 02:22:19] singularity321 : I've watched that twice now, it's so good, going to piss a lot of people off.
[2016-01-07 02:22:45] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1000 @ 431.61
[2016-01-07 02:22:52] jung1 : true
[2016-01-07 02:22:59] singularity321 : they should make a sequal about bitcoin called "the big long" haha
[2016-01-07 02:23:05] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 200 @ 432.14
[2016-01-07 02:23:23] jung1 : well its quite good idea
[2016-01-07 02:23:43] jung1 : go with kickstarter with this
[2016-01-07 02:23:58] singularity321 : shanghai composite has been halted at -%7.33%
[2016-01-07 02:24:29] jung1 : but I can only imagine haw bad is there if they freeze all trading
[2016-01-07 02:24:43] singularity321 : they have made shorting stocks illegal
[2016-01-07 02:24:47] singularity321 : it's no longer a real market
[2016-01-07 02:25:03] jung1 : so we can say that
[2016-01-07 02:25:08] jung1 : china is bullish
[2016-01-07 02:25:20] singularity321 : looks like it
[2016-01-07 02:25:40] singularity321 : they've cracked down on most of the ways of getting yuan out of the country
[2016-01-07 02:26:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 55 @ 433.48
[2016-01-07 02:26:33] singularity321 : yuan now at a 4 year low
[2016-01-07 02:26:43] jung1 : but they are really big player in worlds economy
[2016-01-07 02:26:43] singularity321 : went down 1% just this morning in the last hour or so
[2016-01-07 02:26:58] jung1 : so its could be next finacial crisis as well
[2016-01-07 02:28:12] singularity321 : possibly, there does seem to be a credit bubble there
[2016-01-07 02:28:42] jung1 : at least
[2016-01-07 02:30:59] jung1 : so strategy for '16
[2016-01-07 02:31:15] jung1 : make bitcoins on bitmex and sell it for gold on bitstamp https://www.bitstamp.net/article/bitstamp-adds-physical-gold-delivery
[2016-01-07 02:33:03] singularity321 : do they deliver to the uk?
[2016-01-07 02:33:12] jung1 : think so
[2016-01-07 02:33:25] jung1 : whole eu
[2016-01-07 02:34:15] jung1 : Service is available in: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Republic of Ireland, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, United Kingdom.
[2016-01-07 02:35:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1983 @ 436.72
[2016-01-07 02:35:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 3500 @ 436.88
[2016-01-07 02:37:23] jung1 : nice pump
[2016-01-07 02:37:39] BitMEX_Sam : Indeed
[2016-01-07 02:44:04] hashman : when do the new order types launch?
[2016-01-07 02:44:11] hashman : really would like trailing stop loss for this kinda action :)
[2016-01-07 02:44:32] AudibleScience : ^^^
[2016-01-07 02:45:24] jung1 : heh yeah
[2016-01-07 02:45:33] jung1 : china make pressure on you sam!
[2016-01-07 02:49:06] jung1 : https://bitbet.us/bet/786 any gamblers here?
[2016-01-07 02:49:41] ethexio : no
[2016-01-07 02:56:06] BitMEX_Sam : hashman: Aiming for early next week.
[2016-01-07 02:56:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 2007 @ 440.53
[2016-01-07 02:57:18] habibi : gj big whale :)
[2016-01-07 02:58:10] BitMEX_Sam : Woof
[2016-01-07 02:59:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 7455 @ 445.18
[2016-01-07 02:59:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 14258 @ 444.46
[2016-01-07 02:59:54] jung1 : im not going to sleep today
[2016-01-07 02:59:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH16`: Buy 2504 @ 514.58
[2016-01-07 03:00:36] REKT : Sell your house, sell your wife, sell your kids, BUY BITCOIN!
[2016-01-07 03:00:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 1000 @ 447.43
[2016-01-07 03:03:54] singularity321 : lol
[2016-01-07 03:12:40] micmix : nice bids on 24h
[2016-01-07 03:19:48] BitMEX_Arthur : More details for the Webinar tomorrow
[2016-01-07 03:19:49] BitMEX_Arthur : https://blog.bitmex.com/bitmex-arbitrage-lesson-1-webinar/
[2016-01-07 03:23:42] lockhedge : BitMEX_Arthur: sounds very interesting
[2016-01-07 03:23:46] rapidtrades : need more premium to sell
[2016-01-07 03:24:41] Swedishnut : China haulting trade on stocks doing this?
[2016-01-07 03:25:54] rapidtrades : they halted AGAIN?
[2016-01-07 03:26:05] singularity321 : yep
[2016-01-07 03:26:14] singularity321 : circuit breakers kicked in
[2016-01-07 03:26:15] Swedishnut : yeah after 5% loss
[2016-01-07 03:26:28] singularity321 : 7.32% loss on the shanghai composite
[2016-01-07 03:26:41] Swedishnut : Think it will likely be echoed in other markets might not be 5% but likely over 3%
[2016-01-07 03:26:54] rapidtrades : those circuit breakers are set too low
[2016-01-07 03:27:03] singularity321 : which index stopped at -5%
[2016-01-07 03:27:05] Swedishnut : since the globe's finances are tied together to create "strength"
[2016-01-07 03:27:50] Swedishnut : All trading I guess http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-07/china-markets-in-turmoil-as-weak-yuan-fixing-sparks-stock-tumble
[2016-01-07 03:28:12] singularity321 : says 7% on there too
[2016-01-07 03:28:56] rapidtrades : cmon let's get this over with then..crash already and lets move on
[2016-01-07 03:29:15] rapidtrades : the Chinese don't buy shit anwyay, it will have a small efect on world
[2016-01-07 03:29:22] rapidtrades : they'll keep making stuff
[2016-01-07 03:29:41] Swedishnut : finding "true" value creates lots of unsuspecting losers who thought they had bought the system. They will fight with their printers to the bitter end
[2016-01-07 03:30:55] Swedishnut : the world is pricing the cost of truth
[2016-01-07 03:31:11] rapidtrades : SP down 1/2%
[2016-01-07 03:31:16] rapidtrades : 1.2%
[2016-01-07 03:32:06] Swedishnut : I've been told the next resistance is 1860 and might be hit right away
[2016-01-07 03:33:16] rapidtrades : long way away atm
[2016-01-07 03:33:16] Swedishnut : Guy at church does futures on the US Markets mostly individual stocks but said ending 1990 and having broke below already was a terrible sign for bulls
[2016-01-07 03:34:08] rapidtrades : yeah it's technically bad but US markets have bounced back before...we'll see
[2016-01-07 03:34:26] rapidtrades : shorting a multi-year bull trend is rarely a good idea
[2016-01-07 03:34:58] Swedishnut : with leadership yes but the pres race is far from settled and the lame duck in office won't make necessary changes. thus expect NO CHANGE.
[2016-01-07 03:36:00] rapidtrades : no change is needed...nothing is wrong with the US economy except for the energy sector
[2016-01-07 03:37:44] Swedishnut : well what of smart cars requiring no driver, = no taxi drivers, BTC replaces settlements = far fewer lawyers and bankers, 20% of all world jobs lost to innovation. We need to still supply for people meaning have all the needs available to be met with compensation/settlement of claim
[2016-01-07 03:41:39] Swedishnut : with BTC being the best asset of 2015 at the minimum through crisis this year people will diversify in part to the best of last year to at least do well this year maybe not best 2 years in a row but better than most yet.
[2016-01-07 03:42:55] rapidtrades : okc gap slowly going down
[2016-01-07 03:54:35] rapidtrades : Liq is gone
[2016-01-07 04:06:37] rapidtrades : okc lending is f-ed up
[2016-01-07 04:06:47] rapidtrades : bid and ask at 0.05%
[2016-01-07 04:19:18] manchstr_untd1 : anyone want to make a more sizable ask on xbth16? looking to buy about 5k-10k contracts
[2016-01-07 04:21:25] rapidtrades : it would be remarkable is we go break higher AGAIN
[2016-01-07 04:24:58] coolcatgee : @manchstr_untd1 put 5k at 600 for you
[2016-01-07 04:26:27] manchstr_untd1 : lol
[2016-01-07 04:26:49] coolcatgee : I will pull it when spot hits 450
[2016-01-07 04:28:26] manchstr_untd1 : u must be thining about wrong contract, h16 trading at 527
[2016-01-07 04:29:21] coolcatgee : you can get 5k at 527?
[2016-01-07 04:29:52] manchstr_untd1 : yeah bro, im not paying that premium. hahahahaha
[2016-01-07 04:30:11] coolcatgee : no problem, no pressure :)
[2016-01-07 04:42:47] habibi : poor whale
[2016-01-07 04:45:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 5 @ 443.51
[2016-01-07 04:45:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 8 @ 442.04
[2016-01-07 04:48:45] micmix : no China premium = not a good pump
[2016-01-07 04:49:05] sleger : agreed
[2016-01-07 04:50:05] coolcatgee : -.89% on 11-25
[2016-01-07 04:50:18] micmix : but someone bought my XBTM16 all the way up to 650
[2016-01-07 04:50:34] manchstr_untd1 : yeah that was nuts. small sizes tho
[2016-01-07 04:50:43] micmix : too bad I had very small offers posted
[2016-01-07 04:50:55] manchstr_untd1 : mkt close short?
[2016-01-07 04:51:04] micmix : could be
[2016-01-07 04:52:18] sleger : 650 damn... missed that
[2016-01-07 04:52:41] rapidtrades : so if we use the current market CNY rate, I get $432 per BTC
[2016-01-07 04:53:06] j8 : rapidtrades: is that offshore yuan?
[2016-01-07 04:53:17] rapidtrades : prolly
[2016-01-07 04:53:23] j8 : what rate
[2016-01-07 04:53:34] rapidtrades : 6.686
[2016-01-07 04:55:01] BitMEX_Arthur : Don't use that rate you use the usdcny rate
[2016-01-07 04:55:17] BitMEX_Arthur : use the pboc fixing
[2016-01-07 04:55:45] rapidtrades : PBOC lags the market
[2016-01-07 04:55:46] BitMEX_Arthur : but I guess all depends on what your bank quotes
[2016-01-07 04:55:57] sleger : rapidtrades: are you using 11=14 as well ?
[2016-01-07 04:56:24] BitMEX_Arthur : my usdcny rate is closer to pboc
[2016-01-07 04:56:32] j8 : yeah the CNH/CNY gap hit record highs
[2016-01-07 04:58:06] j8 : and, okc will settle this week using 6.4703...
[2016-01-07 04:58:15] rapidtrades : well shit
[2016-01-07 04:58:26] rapidtrades : good for shorts..bad for bulls
[2016-01-07 04:58:35] sleger : yeah awesome again :p
[2016-01-07 04:58:48] rapidtrades : when is next rate change on okc?
[2016-01-07 04:59:01] j8 : after settlement
[2016-01-07 04:59:15] rapidtrades : dam...should prolly dump my smaller longs huh
[2016-01-07 04:59:20] sleger : that's only if I give my ok though
[2016-01-07 05:00:02] rapidtrades : no wait...shorts
[2016-01-07 05:00:52] sleger : wait wait rapidtrades isnt sure what he is, everyone gets out of their positions now
[2016-01-07 05:01:34] rapidtrades : I have both :) I picked up some longs when they were cheap :)
[2016-01-07 05:02:31] rapidtrades : mostly short tho...it's prolly a bad idea to use okc for hedging until the CNY stabilizes
[2016-01-07 05:02:39] sleger : people rely on you here, we need to know
[2016-01-07 05:03:23] micmix : well I'm out, Merry Christmas and happy trading everyone
[2016-01-07 05:03:46] rapidtrades : what...are u orthodox?
[2016-01-07 05:04:10] micmix : my wife is Greek Orthodox, we celebrate both
[2016-01-07 05:04:46] micmix : more presents this way :-)
[2016-01-07 05:04:48] ethexio : 123GO
[2016-01-07 05:04:50] rapidtrades : weird, I thought Greeks do 25th?
[2016-01-07 05:05:05] micmix : not my wife's church
[2016-01-07 05:05:21] rapidtrades : the Church of Satan?
[2016-01-07 05:06:55] zanza : good morning
[2016-01-07 05:07:01] zanza : wow, break up from 430 ?
[2016-01-07 05:07:06] zanza : this is bullish
[2016-01-07 05:07:12] rapidtrades : gm sir
[2016-01-07 05:07:27] rapidtrades : meh...I'll wait for $470
[2016-01-07 05:07:41] zanza : holyshit oil
[2016-01-07 05:07:49] zanza : got MEGAREKT
[2016-01-07 05:08:13] rapidtrades : yeah big gasoline inventorie
[2016-01-07 05:08:28] Swedishnut : yeah and lessening need for transport
[2016-01-07 05:08:40] rapidtrades : no
[2016-01-07 05:08:56] Swedishnut : Internet of Things helping and future of smart driverless cars
[2016-01-07 05:09:00] zanza : another China 7% loss ?
[2016-01-07 05:09:05] rapidtrades : yep
[2016-01-07 05:09:20] Swedishnut : true immediate but long pressure is replacement
[2016-01-07 05:09:37] rapidtrades : that curcuit breaker needs to be widened its just creating panicked selling
[2016-01-07 05:11:50] Swedishnut : IF electric free THEN transaction free, THUS resource trade would be the nature over "promise"/Government Assurance of Payment in Paper, Thus the more we find in the forms of electric production on a singular level the more relevant said above situation may prove.
[2016-01-07 05:12:17] rapidtrades : I'll be back lil later...need to catch some ZZZs
[2016-01-07 05:15:34] Swedishnut : No Soup/Sleep for you :P Night!
[2016-01-07 05:16:26] sleger : so you're his.... friend ?
[2016-01-07 05:21:46] Swedishnut : If you breath air I also live for your well being
[2016-01-07 05:26:29] sleger : i dont understand what that means :p
[2016-01-07 05:26:46] j8 : it means he hates fish people
[2016-01-07 05:47:08] zanza : rofl j8
[2016-01-07 05:59:57] ethexio : round 2?
[2016-01-07 06:05:04] manchstr_untd1 : coming very soon me thinks
[2016-01-07 06:12:40] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 16081 @ 450.75 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-01-07 06:15:30] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 576 @ 449.89
[2016-01-07 06:16:00] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 16255 @ 451.19 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-01-07 06:16:25] manchstr_untd1 : damn i love being right
[2016-01-07 06:17:10] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 500 @ 452.98
[2016-01-07 06:20:21] joequant : China market is tanking. Government has made it clear that it's not going to support the market.
[2016-01-07 06:20:35] joequant : If you didn't get out the last time, then TOUGH!!!!
[2016-01-07 06:20:52] joequant : All that liquidity is going into bitcoin and everything else.
[2016-01-07 06:25:14] zanza : Bitcoin is back!
[2016-01-07 06:25:39] joequant : Expecting stocks to tank and bitcoin to spike.
[2016-01-07 06:26:02] joequant : China being China, there's a good chance that you'll trigger a bubble in bitcoin once the price spikes.
[2016-01-07 07:43:56] zanza : if people can seek refuge in Bitcoin from falling stocks/Yuan/SnP
[2016-01-07 07:44:05] zanza : that is a big value/use case in itself
[2016-01-07 07:48:58] singularity321 : here we go again
[2016-01-07 07:50:57] tscha : good morning!
[2016-01-07 07:51:09] tscha : finally! action! here we go! happy tscha is happy!
[2016-01-07 07:51:23] singularity321 : my good morning started 7 hours ago :)
[2016-01-07 07:51:26] zanza : I think we beat 3130 this time
[2016-01-07 08:01:41] singularity321 : ftse 100 opening -2%
[2016-01-07 08:31:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 100 @ 450.74
[2016-01-07 08:31:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 30 @ 450.74
[2016-01-07 08:32:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 160 @ 451.91
[2016-01-07 08:32:04] tscha : uuuuh this dump
[2016-01-07 08:32:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 2000 @ 450.46
[2016-01-07 08:33:50] manchstr_untd1 : is nothing. there will be plenty like this on the way up
[2016-01-07 08:34:21] tscha : biggest one during the whole rally though
[2016-01-07 08:34:51] manchstr_untd1 : good, we had three huge pushes up. need at least one minor correction then the fun can continue
[2016-01-07 08:34:52] manchstr_untd1 : big time
[2016-01-07 08:35:41] manchstr_untd1 : the air smells of bear meat lol
[2016-01-07 08:41:40] rapidtrades : fuking BS...i hate okc
[2016-01-07 08:44:09] Myros : is it legal to automation the order?
[2016-01-07 08:44:24] Myros : can i write a bot for it?
[2016-01-07 08:45:00] random1001 : Myros: Write a bot for what?
[2016-01-07 08:45:17] Myros : to order and sell contracts
[2016-01-07 08:45:19] rapidtrades : NO. If you do that, you go straight to jail.
[2016-01-07 08:45:43] BitMEX_Arthur : Myros: That is completely allowed
[2016-01-07 08:45:46] tscha : Myros: https://www.bitmex.com/app/apiOverview
[2016-01-07 08:45:54] BitMEX_Arthur : Beat me to it
[2016-01-07 08:46:15] BitMEX_Arthur : We encourage bots, traders who place maker orders are paid 0.025% for each order executed against them
[2016-01-07 08:46:48] rapidtrades : ....but after you go to jail
[2016-01-07 08:47:06] rapidtrades : in Singapore...and u get caned
[2016-01-07 08:51:13] BitMEX_Arthur : http://www.reuters.com/article/china-csrc-rules-idUSL3N14R1X520160107
[2016-01-07 08:52:39] Myros : Testnet: Unable to verify email. (Not Found). Please check the link or register again. Please re-enter your information and try again.
[2016-01-07 08:53:09] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: yeah they're also gonna unveil new restrictions for trading onshore/offshore Yuan
[2016-01-07 08:53:14] Myros : but i can login
[2016-01-07 08:53:24] rapidtrades : ''according to ppl familiar with the matter''
[2016-01-07 08:53:30] BitMEX_Arthur : Myros: The confirm email doesn't work?
[2016-01-07 08:53:32] BitMEX_Arthur : For Testnet?
[2016-01-07 08:54:09] Myros : it works, but it givs an error on testnet
[2016-01-07 08:54:42] BitMEX_Arthur : Testnet is a completely different exchange, you must sign up at https://testnet.bitmex.com
[2016-01-07 08:55:02] Myros : jes i have
[2016-01-07 08:55:20] tscha : >According to the rules, "institutional investors that built large stakes in the market over time will not be restricted in their sales," said Oliver Barron. Why is that so? It doesn't say in the article. When does this rule apply exactly?
[2016-01-07 08:56:30] Myros : I thought the testnet is a place to try bots
[2016-01-07 08:56:45] tscha : According to that quote, there has to be a specific rule that exempts these investors from the restrictions, even on the primary market.
[2016-01-07 08:56:46] BitMEX_Arthur : It is but accounts on prod don't translate over to testnet
[2016-01-07 08:56:51] BitMEX_Arthur : you need to sign up again on testnet
[2016-01-07 08:57:05] Myros : yes i have now 2 accounts
[2016-01-07 08:57:13] BitMEX_Arthur : Myros: can you log onto testnet?
[2016-01-07 08:57:16] Myros : yes
[2016-01-07 08:57:19] BitMEX_Arthur : Ok
[2016-01-07 08:57:51] Myros : there is only an unnecessary error
[2016-01-07 08:58:24] BitMEX_Arthur : tscha: if any foreigner is foolish enough to trade a shares they deserve what they get
[2016-01-07 08:58:33] BitMEX_Arthur : trade the hk equities
[2016-01-07 09:13:58] tscha : BitMEX_Arthur: yeah, but I meant the quote from Oliver Barron.. >"institutional investors that built large stakes in the market over time will not be restricted in their sales,"
[2016-01-07 09:14:15] tscha : it's not explained in the article when this rule applies exactly
[2016-01-07 09:14:28] BitMEX_Arthur : I mean it's china they want complete flexibility to change it
[2016-01-07 09:14:30] BitMEX_Arthur : if the market keeps crashing
[2016-01-07 09:15:13] tscha : ah ok, that's what you mean
[2016-01-07 09:15:18] tscha : yeah that makes sense
[2016-01-07 09:20:21] rapidtrades : bit silly ppl buying the Euro in this mayhem
[2016-01-07 09:50:14] laisee : better quality QE available in the Eurozone, perhaps ..
[2016-01-07 11:31:48] justinlooking : well that's a lot of open interest
[2016-01-07 12:03:01] rapidtrades : that was a crazy settlement
[2016-01-07 12:03:07] justinlooking : radio rental
[2016-01-07 12:03:45] rapidtrades : sold at $1 premium 20 secs before expiration...
[2016-01-07 12:04:10] rapidtrades : I would've sold at $2 but I wanted to make sure I wasn't looking at a glitch
[2016-01-07 12:04:32] justinlooking : seemed it was trading 449 and 452 at same time... 100k approx
[2016-01-07 12:04:47] rapidtrades : weird as hell
[2016-01-07 12:06:15] rapidtrades : well easy money :)
[2016-01-07 12:11:29] limsta08 : what da hell is this order??
[2016-01-07 12:11:45] rapidtrades : ahahaha
[2016-01-07 12:13:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 400 @ 453.88
[2016-01-07 12:13:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 150 @ 454.26
[2016-01-07 12:14:50] jung1 : wut
[2016-01-07 12:15:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 1000 @ 456.26
[2016-01-07 12:15:16] rapidtrades : full retard mode confirmed
[2016-01-07 12:18:09] jung1 : so we're goig for 3000
[2016-01-07 12:19:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 800 @ 458.58
[2016-01-07 12:24:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2025 @ 456.21
[2016-01-07 12:24:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 100 @ 456.21
[2016-01-07 12:25:11] rapidtrades : fun times
[2016-01-07 12:53:37] jung1 : looks like chine will hold 3000
[2016-01-07 12:55:58] habibi : at the time u saying that
[2016-01-07 12:56:03] habibi : ... we are trying to break down
[2016-01-07 12:59:24] habibi : seriously :D u can be reverse indicator some day
[2016-01-07 13:00:02] laisee : thought we had one guy for that role already?
[2016-01-07 13:00:03] jung1 : hope not
[2016-01-07 13:00:14] habibi : yep we have rapidtrades star here
[2016-01-07 13:00:26] habibi : but he is hiding his calls :(
[2016-01-07 13:03:03] laisee : REKT bot finds the hidden trades
[2016-01-07 13:15:36] jung1 : nice buy orders on 24h
[2016-01-07 14:11:22] joequant : tscha: The new rule says that for the next three months, large investors will be only able to sell 1% of their holdings on the main exchange. They can sell on the secondary off-exchange markets.