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[2015-12-30 23:45:55] lockhedge : TschavaTschigger: http://www.firmenabc.at/virtual-world-services-gmbh_HUEp 100% Shareholder: HBA Beteiligungs GmbH http://www.firmenabc.at/hba-beteiligungs-gmbh_KSKO
[2015-12-30 23:47:34] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 95 @ 423.77
[2015-12-30 23:47:44] lockhedge : TschavaTschigger: HBA law firm is as well specialized in tax law http://www.hba.at/schwerpunkte/#steuerrecht
[2015-12-30 23:48:34] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 20 @ 423.15
[2015-12-30 23:50:12] lockhedge : TschavaTschigger: HBA is very probably not really investing in VirWox but just act as fiduciary...
[2015-12-30 23:51:50] jung1 : but ukraine could be european bitcoin hub
[2015-12-30 23:52:18] jung1 : theres biggest bitcoin community in region, first bank add btc
[2015-12-30 23:52:58] jung1 : couse of war thera are a bit mess so bitcoin could grow there rapidly
[2015-12-30 23:53:41] lockhedge : jung1: BTC-E used to be registered in the Ukraine
[2015-12-30 23:54:44] jung1 : yeah
[2015-12-30 23:57:21] rapidtrades : lockhedge: is that true? I thught it was Bulgaria then Cyprus?
[2015-12-31 00:04:04] lockhedge : rapidtrades: don't know, but one of their early whois records (back in 2012) used to be "Kechkemetskaya 196, flat 36 Simferopol 95000 UA"
[2015-12-31 00:05:54] zanza : UA ?
[2015-12-31 00:06:04] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 100 @ 421.88
[2015-12-31 00:06:23] zanza : how is 24H
[2015-12-31 00:06:26] zanza : price so wrong ?
[2015-12-31 00:06:30] lockhedge : zanza: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ua
[2015-12-31 00:06:57] habibi : that is bearish sentiment in action
[2015-12-31 00:07:04] zanza : whats happening $5 spread
[2015-12-31 00:07:09] zanza : this is bots malfunctioning
[2015-12-31 00:07:27] zanza : wow easy long right now
[2015-12-31 00:07:31] zanza : if i had funds
[2015-12-31 00:08:04] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 273 @ 420.92
[2015-12-31 00:08:21] lockhedge : zanza: seems that most of the bots AND most of the traders use Bitfinex as reference price
[2015-12-31 00:08:46] zanza : seems stupid lol
[2015-12-31 00:11:01] TschavaTschigger : it's the most important market for the index, so it's understandable
[2015-12-31 00:11:42] lockhedge : zanza: would say both, Bitfinex and XBX are wrong, and BIX is right ;)
[2015-12-31 00:11:44] zanza : OKC0in is 46%
[2015-12-31 00:13:28] TschavaTschigger : okC0in is just 46% because xbx is deweighting finex cause they are lower than everyone else. I doubt that the trades at finex atm are somehow un-legit, so they will have an effect on the overall price, be it now or in 1h
[2015-12-31 00:14:51] TschavaTschigger : maybe i'm wrong though and BIX is right :P
[2015-12-31 00:18:52] lockhedge : TschavaTschigger: my mm bot on XBT24H currently quotes bid:421.65 ask:423.68
[2015-12-31 00:19:31] TschavaTschigger : lockhedge: your index is 424.70 though
[2015-12-31 00:20:12] TschavaTschigger : wait thats weird... it was at 424.80 or something when finex was 422... now finex recovered.... hmmm
[2015-12-31 00:20:13] lockhedge : TschavaTschigger: it uses BIX as reference but adjusts according to its (current long) position
[2015-12-31 00:21:12] TschavaTschigger : lockhedge: ah ok. well, never mind about your index price. can't remember exactly.
[2015-12-31 00:27:16] rapidtrades : wth is wrong with the daily....
[2015-12-31 00:32:46] TschavaTschigger : xbx plays with the weights too much imho
[2015-12-31 00:33:24] lockhedge : rapidtrades: maybe some "informed trading" on Bitfinex and Bitmex, wide spreads could indicate some Order Flow Toxicity http://jheusser.github.io/2013/10/13/informed-trading.html
[2015-12-31 00:33:56] TschavaTschigger : both 1) difference to mean and 2) short-term-volume are weighted too much in tradeblock
[2015-12-31 00:34:35] rapidtrades : lockhedge: in eng?
[2015-12-31 00:35:04] rapidtrades : btw finex is at $423 atm so that theory doesn't hld up
[2015-12-31 00:37:05] TschavaTschigger : it's actually moronic that an unusual, drastic increase in short-term volume leads to a *higher* weight. like it happened to coinbase.
[2015-12-31 00:37:52] rapidtrades : agree index is shit but I'm talking about market at $421
[2015-12-31 00:38:05] rapidtrades : noone's trading this low
[2015-12-31 00:38:48] TschavaTschigger : rapidtrades: no one is trading this low **yet** :--)
[2015-12-31 00:39:11] Swedishnut : calm before the ____
[2015-12-31 00:39:18] lockhedge : TschavaTschigger: fully agree about XBX/Tradeblock ^^
[2015-12-31 00:39:22] rapidtrades : good point but this place hasn't exactly lead the market...like ever
[2015-12-31 00:40:40] rapidtrades : 82,000 open interest...that's low right
[2015-12-31 00:44:22] lockhedge : rapidtrades: just buy about 18000 contracts and see what will happen then to the XBT24H price...
[2015-12-31 00:46:03] rapidtrades : nah already hit my risk limits...need more data re:clawback before making big bets
[2015-12-31 00:46:42] TschavaTschigger : risk limit = for pussies
[2015-12-31 00:46:55] rapidtrades : says the bot maker
[2015-12-31 00:47:19] TschavaTschigger : I manually traded a position over 10k just two hours ago
[2015-12-31 00:47:31] TschavaTschigger : just got rid of it like 20 minutes ago
[2015-12-31 00:47:43] rapidtrades : oh right...short ?
[2015-12-31 00:47:50] TschavaTschigger : yes
[2015-12-31 00:47:59] rapidtrades : well u lucky sob
[2015-12-31 00:48:09] rapidtrades : wait a f minute
[2015-12-31 00:48:26] rapidtrades : did u pull the bids so that price would fall
[2015-12-31 00:49:35] TschavaTschigger : yeah, I made the finex price fall $3 by selling 10k futures on bitmex
[2015-12-31 00:49:37] TschavaTschigger : you got me
[2015-12-31 00:50:05] rapidtrades : bs...we're $1.5 below finex and $3.5. below okc
[2015-12-31 00:51:07] lockhedge : TschavaTschigger: according to US prosecutors, Navinder Singh Sarao did something like you did ;)
[2015-12-31 00:51:26] rapidtrades : ahahahaha LOCK HIM UP @lockhedge
[2015-12-31 00:51:31] TschavaTschigger : I sold when finex was > 425 and bought when finex was ~ 422... what's so hard to understand about that
[2015-12-31 00:51:55] BitMEX_Sam : Go directly to jail, do not collect 200&btc;
[2015-12-31 00:52:05] rapidtrades : logged data and sent to the CFTC!
[2015-12-31 00:53:05] lockhedge : BitMEX_Sam: you could introduce a reverse DPE for profits of traders that went to jail, would be fair ;)
[2015-12-31 00:53:33] BitMEX_Sam : Sounds like a good idea with no downside
[2015-12-31 00:53:40] rapidtrades : do it
[2015-12-31 00:53:53] cryptostephen : somebody is loooking to get rekt on 100x atm
[2015-12-31 00:54:09] rapidtrades : cryptostephen: why?
[2015-12-31 00:54:24] TschavaTschigger : >Sarao, who was arrested by U.K. authorities in April, amassed a nearly £30 million fortune. But rather than snapping up a luxury Mayfair bachelor pad, still lived with his parents in a three bedroom house on a nondescript street in suburban London. living the high life
[2015-12-31 00:54:48] rapidtrades : ugh...living with parents
[2015-12-31 00:54:53] cryptostephen : mr 421
[2015-12-31 00:54:58] rapidtrades : how does he stay sane
[2015-12-31 00:58:54] TschavaTschigger : >just testing if I can add a blank line under a quote with shift by adding a whitespace.... without the whitespace it's not possible does it work?
[2015-12-31 00:58:59] TschavaTschigger : nope :(
[2015-12-31 00:59:20] TschavaTschigger : doesn't matter... pizza time <3
[2015-12-31 00:59:39] Swedishnut : You gettum Leonardo
[2015-12-31 01:02:05] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1902 @ 420.03
[2015-12-31 01:02:06] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 100 @ 419.78
[2015-12-31 01:02:15] cryptostephen : 100x futures getting slaughtered
[2015-12-31 01:02:17] cryptostephen : hell yea
[2015-12-31 01:19:12] TschavaTschigger : so guys, what are we doing new year's eve? 00:00 UTC party here?
[2015-12-31 01:19:45] TschavaTschigger : or wait for okc settlement?
[2015-12-31 01:25:36] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 1000 @ 423.02
[2015-12-31 01:28:06] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 16000 @ 423.10 <b>MEGA-REKT</b>
[2015-12-31 01:28:23] habibi : lele
[2015-12-31 01:28:33] rapidtrades : lol
[2015-12-31 01:28:33] habibi : u still like to loose money on isolated
[2015-12-31 01:29:17] habibi : even if ur price move choice is right
[2015-12-31 01:29:22] habibi : u will get fucked by random moves
[2015-12-31 01:29:57] TschavaTschigger : http://parasec.net/transmission/order-book-visualisation/
[2015-12-31 01:31:16] zanza : what kind of pizza @TschavaTschigger ?
[2015-12-31 01:31:58] TschavaTschigger : prosciutto
[2015-12-31 01:33:59] rapidtrades : FACK YEAH PROSTITUTES
[2015-12-31 01:34:44] SnackyCoins : http://i.imgur.com/DkaW6sU.jpg
[2015-12-31 01:36:54] rapidtrades : some premium would be nice
[2015-12-31 01:37:03] TschavaTschigger : SnackyCoins: haha... very very accurate
[2015-12-31 01:41:20] lockhedge : SnackyCoins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6ABhdfstM
[2015-12-31 01:41:22] BitMEX_Sam : ?
[2015-12-31 01:48:00] lockhedge : TschavaTschigger: thanks for the link, very interesting stuff
[2015-12-31 01:48:16] TschavaTschigger : lockhedge: I knew you would like this ;)
[2015-12-31 03:46:44] fourseam : hi
[2015-12-31 03:46:51] fourseam : what is xbu?
[2015-12-31 03:47:04] fourseam : how it works?
[2015-12-31 03:47:44] BitMEX_Arthur : fourseam: Hi
[2015-12-31 03:48:08] BitMEX_Arthur : Please read https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/XBU
[2015-12-31 03:52:15] ethexio : `whee`
[2015-12-31 04:13:34] habibi : **whee**
[2015-12-31 04:13:40] habibi : _whee_
[2015-12-31 04:13:47] habibi : ~whee~
[2015-12-31 04:22:13] BitMEX_Sam : :thumbsup:
[2015-12-31 04:30:48] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: Hi Sam! How much of the markdown spec is supported? Or maybe a better question is what library are you using?
[2015-12-31 04:31:46] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Most, but we're doing some extra sanitization to stay safe. Most of GitHub Flavored Markdown is valid
[2015-12-31 04:31:56] BitMEX_Sam : Also most of http://www.emoji-cheat-sheet.com/ as well
[2015-12-31 04:32:30] micmix : cool, no subscript/superscript?
[2015-12-31 04:32:48] micmix : :heart_eyes:
[2015-12-31 04:33:16] micmix : :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:
[2015-12-31 04:34:09] j8 : :chart_with_downwards_trend:
[2015-12-31 04:34:32] micmix : :panda_face:
[2015-12-31 04:34:44] micmix : :whale2:
[2015-12-31 04:35:01] micmix : :whale:
[2015-12-31 04:35:09] micmix : oh cool, whale symbol works
[2015-12-31 04:36:08] micmix : :bear: :ox:
[2015-12-31 04:36:28] BitMEX_Sam : No sub/super at this time, may add it later on.
[2015-12-31 04:36:35] micmix : :cow:
[2015-12-31 04:36:36] BitMEX_Sam : My favorite is :shipit:, which we added by hand
[2015-12-31 04:36:49] BitMEX_Sam : it might be outsized if you haven't refreshed in a while
[2015-12-31 04:37:18] micmix : :shipit:
[2015-12-31 04:37:23] micmix : nice one!
[2015-12-31 04:37:58] micmix : can't find a bull :-(
[2015-12-31 04:38:47] micmix : :cow:
[2015-12-31 04:39:00] micmix : well this is close enough
[2015-12-31 04:40:03] micmix : :neckbeard:
[2015-12-31 04:41:11] micmix : nice, will update the REKT bot after New Year
[2015-12-31 04:43:41] ethexio : :neckbeard:
[2015-12-31 04:44:58] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm. Looks like that one's not in the list
[2015-12-31 04:46:07] BitMEX_Sam : Full list is here (https://github.com/Ranks/emojione/blob/master/lib/js/emojione.js#L7), apologies it's not very readable
[2015-12-31 04:46:25] habibi : 1f603
[2015-12-31 04:46:32] habibi : :1f603:
[2015-12-31 04:54:15] gouda : looks like i should of shorted
[2015-12-31 04:54:21] gouda : yaay now i get to wait and buy the bottom :D
[2015-12-31 05:25:11] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 5714 @ 420.88
[2015-12-31 05:33:11] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1000 @ 419.11
[2015-12-31 05:44:51] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 2100 @ 419.61
[2015-12-31 05:47:42] laisee : ouch
[2015-12-31 05:53:02] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 40 @ 419.06
[2015-12-31 05:53:25] macios15 : dump just getting started
[2015-12-31 05:53:32] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 1700 @ 418.36
[2015-12-31 05:54:12] REKT : Liquidated long on XBTH16: Sell 18000 @ 495.75 <b>MEGA-REKT</b>
[2015-12-31 05:54:42] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 40 @ 417.27
[2015-12-31 05:54:42] REKT : Abandon the ship
[2015-12-31 05:55:06] macios15 : omg 2500 welcome
[2015-12-31 05:55:23] Swedishnut : idk yet
[2015-12-31 05:55:52] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 1000 @ 415.80
[2015-12-31 05:56:25] Swedishnut : 2698 90% shot in 5 min or less my guess then a retest to 2750?
[2015-12-31 05:57:19] macios15 : looks like canal
[2015-12-31 05:59:43] macios15 : 1d ema cross and we gona see some rekt
[2015-12-31 06:01:21] ethexio : >rekt
[2015-12-31 06:04:34] laisee : rekt confirmed
[2015-12-31 06:04:53] manchstr_untd1 : of course i am the mega rekt again lol
[2015-12-31 06:05:22] laisee : congrats. awesome stuff. lel.
[2015-12-31 06:15:32] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 2317 @ 419.74
[2015-12-31 06:26:47] laisee : REKT coming & going ...
[2015-12-31 07:26:17] blackwhite : Hi guys. I'm new, tell me how can i input the number of contracts buying/selling. Only can have 1 contract.
[2015-12-31 07:27:23] BitMEX_Sam : blackwhite: You should be able to simply type into the box.
[2015-12-31 07:27:52] blackwhite : only have box for price
[2015-12-31 07:30:27] BitMEX_Sam : You're probably on the Close Limit tab then - click to the Limit tab
[2015-12-31 07:31:15] blackwhite : ok found it.
[2015-12-31 07:32:22] gouda : step right up to get #rekt :D
[2015-12-31 07:32:27] gouda : have fun enjoy :D
[2015-12-31 07:32:54] blackwhite : I mistaken it for two inputs for buy/sell price; one of them was for quantity really
[2015-12-31 08:36:58] rapidtrades : good morning fellas
[2015-12-31 08:40:10] gouda : gm bitmex hustler
[2015-12-31 08:42:59] rapidtrades : :)
[2015-12-31 09:12:25] rapidtrades : so we didn't crash today huh
[2015-12-31 09:15:29] rapidtrades : Let's hope we crash into the New Year when everyone's on holiday
[2015-12-31 09:18:58] gouda : one could only hope :D
[2015-12-31 09:19:07] gouda : still made something for that drop :D
[2015-12-31 09:19:44] gustavo7 : Holz Pump
[2015-12-31 09:20:32] Gomezpl : to the skyyyy
[2015-12-31 09:21:02] Gomezpl : bfx goin up
[2015-12-31 09:25:46] rapidtrades : smone fomo-ed on finex
[2015-12-31 09:33:40] rapidtrades : that's pretty much it until settlement...at least here
[2015-12-31 11:53:52] ayy lmao : 100k sell
[2015-12-31 11:53:56] ayy lmao : lol
[2015-12-31 11:53:59] Gomezpl : yep
[2015-12-31 11:54:01] Gomezpl : incoming
[2015-12-31 11:54:03] habibi : just for settlement
[2015-12-31 11:54:11] thehawthorne : SAVE FEEES
[2015-12-31 11:54:12] habibi : free profit in case someone would buy it
[2015-12-31 11:54:24] habibi : its not about fees, there are not even 100k open interest
[2015-12-31 12:15:55] rapidtrades : I got too easy fill...looks like another discount day
[2015-12-31 13:02:16] jung1 : rapidtrades: take a break rapid
[2015-12-31 13:02:20] jung1 : nye today
[2015-12-31 13:57:32] habibi : jung1: najlepszego na nowy rok ;)
[2015-12-31 13:57:48] habibi : 100 bitków zarobionych tu jak i 100x wzrostu wartości bitka :)
[2015-12-31 14:18:22] justinlooking : ????
[2015-12-31 15:12:02] Gomezpl : Najlepszego wszystkim
[2015-12-31 15:28:13] TschavaTschigger : is this an encoding problem on my end? http://imgur.com/iH1XKKL
[2015-12-31 15:29:49] TschavaTschigger : Got UTF-8
[2015-12-31 15:31:34] jesperf : it's the emoji part of utf-8
[2015-12-31 15:31:38] jesperf : not all browsers support it
[2015-12-31 15:44:57] rapidtrades : where did the mm bots go?
[2015-12-31 16:09:50] sleger : they went party dude
[2015-12-31 16:37:04] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 1000 @ 426.92
[2015-12-31 16:40:36] macios15 : nice pump
[2015-12-31 16:42:34] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT7D: Buy 2200 @ 428.73
[2015-12-31 16:50:28] rapidtrades : it would be hilarious if bitcoin rallies on new year's eve
[2015-12-31 16:53:54] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 1000 @ 432.15
[2015-12-31 16:53:54] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 4995 @ 432.15
[2015-12-31 16:54:18] habibi : 7d <3
[2015-12-31 17:04:28] Swedishnut : whatever the outlier option Bitcoin likes to take :P
[2015-12-31 17:06:33] Swedishnut : in any case Happy New Year :)
[2015-12-31 17:08:50] Gomezpl : Habibi god job on 7:)
[2015-12-31 17:09:24] Gomezpl : I wonder if it stopa or goes all night crazy
[2015-12-31 17:15:25] rapidtrades : stopa prolly
[2015-12-31 17:18:19] rapidtrades : need more premium to sell :)
[2015-12-31 17:18:25] jesperf : all nighta crazya is my bet
[2015-12-31 17:18:25] rapidtrades : bid it up b1tches
[2015-12-31 17:19:47] rapidtrades : China already had their new year right
[2015-12-31 17:20:11] rapidtrades : so now they're coming back home drunk and getting online...fomoing like crazy
[2015-12-31 17:20:36] rapidtrades : I MISSED LAST YEAR RALLI BUT NOT DIS YEAR CHIN CHON CHING
[2015-12-31 17:51:19] habibi : Best wishes for new year for everyone! :) Even for u rapidtrades:)
[2015-12-31 17:51:39] habibi : multiple both ur bitcoins and bitcoin's price
[2015-12-31 18:16:40] rapidtrades : habibi: tnx man, you too :)
[2015-12-31 18:17:11] rapidtrades : btw this is the first and last time I will acknowledge your presence :)
[2015-12-31 18:18:51] sleger : that 120k 7d yesterday ended up being a good buy...
[2015-12-31 18:19:21] sleger : 4.6btc profit realized, 4.2 unrealized
[2015-12-31 18:23:44] habibi : sleger: so basically u realized it at 424 mostly?
[2015-12-31 18:24:13] sleger : no
[2015-12-31 18:24:26] habibi : how much contracts u bought? 40k or more?
[2015-12-31 18:24:35] sleger : i have only closed a small one. No I had bought 120k contracts
[2015-12-31 18:25:04] sleger : I went from -40k to long 80k and now still long 54k
[2015-12-31 18:25:10] habibi : hm still only 20-30k bought above 425 since that dump
[2015-12-31 18:25:45] sleger : XBT7D 53674
[2015-12-31 18:25:51] sleger : 422.23
[2015-12-31 18:25:57] habibi : k, so not 120k :p
[2015-12-31 18:26:03] sleger : yes I bought 120k
[2015-12-31 18:26:25] sleger : I was short 40k before, I bought 120k, then I was long 80k and in the last 2 hours I sold some so I am now long 53k
[2015-12-31 18:26:45] sleger : Don't use the 11=14 formula in your maths, it doesnt really work...
[2015-12-31 18:27:21] habibi : gj anyway :)and dont be an asshole :)
[2015-12-31 18:28:37] TschavaTschigger : sleger: did you really have a 2 month drawdown once?
[2015-12-31 18:29:56] sleger : yes but not on the algo
[2015-12-31 18:30:42] sleger : it was actually around same time last year, I was partying in some other country, markets were very calm, so I chose to sleep over a settlement where I had a 3k btc position
[2015-12-31 18:30:56] sleger : unfortunately between settlement and wake up, things didnt go well :p
[2015-12-31 18:31:24] sleger : something like 35 points move against me or ~-90k$
[2015-12-31 18:31:39] rapidtrades : hehe
[2015-12-31 18:31:42] rapidtrades : niceeeee
[2015-12-31 18:31:42] habibi : okc?
[2015-12-31 18:31:48] sleger : no
[2015-12-31 18:32:05] habibi : pretty costly sleep, there are no much hotels that are more expensive that this
[2015-12-31 18:32:41] habibi : sleger: where then?
[2015-12-31 18:33:19] sleger : doesnt matter for this story, I prefer not to mention where I have sometimes such large positions
[2015-12-31 18:34:02] sleger : one day I'll do it again and it will be in my favor... maybe
[2015-12-31 18:34:26] habibi : so finex! :) anyway thats this businness cost
[2015-12-31 18:41:15] rapidtrades : habibi: he said settlement
[2015-12-31 18:43:08] habibi : rapidtrades: u damm right
[2015-12-31 18:43:10] habibi : so okc only
[2015-12-31 18:43:42] habibi : or maybe 796 in past
[2015-12-31 18:44:07] rapidtrades : or he's full of shit as usual
[2015-12-31 18:44:57] sleger : rapidtrades: dont be so jealous .
[2015-12-31 18:45:33] sleger : habibi: I trade/have traded futures (yes it was a settlement) on okc, 796, bitvc, bitmex, orderbook (ex icbit)
[2015-12-31 18:51:12] rapidtrades : FX trading like bitcoin today
[2015-12-31 18:51:29] rapidtrades : swings all around, no rime or reason behind the moves :)
[2015-12-31 18:52:02] sleger : rapidtrades: where do you trade FX?
[2015-12-31 18:53:17] rapidtrades : in my mom's basement
[2015-12-31 18:53:32] sleger : I knew that but that wasnt my question
[2015-12-31 18:58:22] laisee : yahoo finance
[2015-12-31 19:11:14] rapidtrades : looks like the Yen will beat the Dollar this year
[2015-12-31 19:13:58] rapidtrades : sleger: have u traded options?
[2015-12-31 19:14:39] rapidtrades : or anyone else?
[2015-12-31 19:18:02] habibi : binary options fe?
[2015-12-31 19:18:41] habibi : even isolated margin is safer that binary options imo
[2015-12-31 19:19:36] sleger : Options yes but only on equities and bitcoin
[2015-12-31 19:20:13] rapidtrades : on bitcoin? where?
[2015-12-31 19:21:06] rapidtrades : I was gonna ask if u trade options on fx but u don't trade those
[2015-12-31 19:21:52] rapidtrades : I've been demoing with FXE but the 8-hour time window is driving me up the wall....anyone has any ideas for 24h FX options?
[2015-12-31 19:22:28] sleger : Fx only spot and fut
[2015-12-31 19:23:13] sleger : On bitcoin on predictious but kind of dead now on 796 but same so now only OTC
[2015-12-31 19:24:13] rapidtrades : yeah we need an options market
[2015-12-31 19:25:11] sleger : Why wont you say where you trade fx?
[2015-12-31 19:25:25] sleger : and how your bot is progressing?
[2015-12-31 19:26:24] rapidtrades : too busy trading to code...I'll prolly pay smone to do it
[2015-12-31 19:26:38] rapidtrades : my strats are simple anyway
[2015-12-31 19:27:19] rapidtrades : it shouldn't be too expensive
[2015-12-31 19:28:40] laisee : rapidtrades: > what advantage u think options have over futures?
[2015-12-31 19:32:07] sleger : Not enough demand for options to be viable for an exchange
[2015-12-31 19:32:56] laisee : yes. options require quite large flow to be profitable for exchanges & liquid for traders
[2015-12-31 19:33:17] rapidtrades : idk we''re already doing >1 bil per day
[2015-12-31 19:33:23] sleger : Problem is also around margin
[2015-12-31 19:34:08] laisee : 1B of cash trades for BTC? hmmm
[2015-12-31 19:34:23] rapidtrades : nah with futures
[2015-12-31 19:35:34] laisee : thats not much when it comes to options.
[2015-12-31 19:36:06] rapidtrades : how do u know? A lot of smaller US stocks have options on them
[2015-12-31 19:36:51] laisee : yes, but they're only traded on 1 or 2 exchanges. BTC volume is across many exchanges.
[2015-12-31 19:36:52] TschavaTschigger : there is no demand for options on btc yet. even futures have very low demand still, although growing.
[2015-12-31 19:36:53] sleger : Because technology and liquidity providers already exist so there was almost no cost to extend
[2015-12-31 19:37:30] rapidtrades : ok
[2015-12-31 19:37:57] sleger : Options are almost exclusively aapl and spy
[2015-12-31 19:38:00] TschavaTschigger : btw, options are too complicated for most of btc users. some even have problems grasping the concept of futures.. *cough* rapid *cough*
[2015-12-31 19:38:04] laisee : options trading & risk management is a couple of magnitudes more complex than futures IMO.
[2015-12-31 19:38:19] laisee : TschavaTschigger: > snap.
[2015-12-31 19:38:35] sleger : Lol
[2015-12-31 19:38:49] TschavaTschigger : famous quote "omg this premium"
[2015-12-31 19:38:54] rapidtrades : well well if it isn't mister Manipulator himself
[2015-12-31 19:39:15] rapidtrades : planning to pull bid again sir? just let us know in advance plz
[2015-12-31 19:39:21] laisee : cool. lets ask how he does it.
[2015-12-31 19:39:31] sleger : So now someone manipulated prices... Conspiracy theory?
[2015-12-31 19:40:11] laisee : a masonic plot to bring down finance ...
[2015-12-31 19:40:30] TschavaTschigger : sleger: I sold ~12k futures on bitmex last night, after that finex price fell $3... rapid thinks it was of my future sale :D
[2015-12-31 19:40:45] sleger : Is that how bitcoiners explain to their mom how they lost their monthly allowance?
[2015-12-31 19:40:47] TschavaTschigger : it was because*
[2015-12-31 19:40:53] rapidtrades : it was a discount...price ''didnt fall''
[2015-12-31 19:41:03] rapidtrades : smone pulled th bids
[2015-12-31 19:41:06] TschavaTschigger : rapidtrades: you still don't get it?
[2015-12-31 19:41:12] TschavaTschigger : that's hilarious
[2015-12-31 19:41:37] laisee : HFT strikes agin
[2015-12-31 19:41:44] sleger : Was there a rekt 1 contract again?
[2015-12-31 19:42:38] laisee : 2. CFTC and SEC are involved.
[2015-12-31 19:43:01] laisee : markup is weird
[2015-12-31 20:10:33] HowDoge : this is the best trollbox ever. I waste to much time reviewing the chat :D
[2015-12-31 20:22:40] TschavaTschigger : anybody already having 2016?
[2015-12-31 20:23:15] cataquil : we hit 1 ExoHash/sec this week
[2015-12-31 20:32:44] cataquil : rapid stay away from binary options in fx, that is the latest evolution of forex bucketshop scam
[2015-12-31 20:33:32] TschavaTschigger : don't worry, rapid is a professional trader
[2015-12-31 20:33:49] sleger : guy knows what he is doing
[2015-12-31 20:34:39] TschavaTschigger : rapid has a PHD in finance and is writing a forex bot
[2015-12-31 20:36:32] cataquil : sure but even the layman should get a warning
[2015-12-31 20:38:12] kingscrown : ok brothers, catch u in 2016!
[2015-12-31 20:39:44] TschavaTschigger : he has been warned a million times. but you just can't stop certain people from doing certain things... natural selection I guess
[2015-12-31 21:02:47] blackwhite : Guys can anyone help me to understand how the maint margin is calculated? I see "1% + Exit Commission" in the contract which don't tell me much. It's about 4,1% of value of my tiny position, so it's not a round number and I'm lost how it was calced
[2015-12-31 21:04:35] cataquil : anyone used this https://coinut.com/
[2015-12-31 21:05:11] SnackyCoins : i have an acct there, never funded it
[2015-12-31 21:05:25] SnackyCoins : afiak the developer is one guy funded by draper
[2015-12-31 21:06:10] SnackyCoins : then the CFTC decided what it did and lawyers came to ask him questions
[2015-12-31 21:06:17] SnackyCoins : err agents*
[2015-12-31 21:06:29] SnackyCoins : now drapers lawyers are dealing with it and he sent the dev to china
[2015-12-31 21:07:07] SnackyCoins : he made it there but i havent seen him in the telegram group for a few weeks. so... maybe watch your deposit amt there :)
[2015-12-31 21:26:13] rapidtrades : cmon baby let's see that $3 premium
[2015-12-31 21:30:23] habibi : negative one? no worries
[2015-12-31 21:32:01] cataquil : of interest http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-12-22/nabbing-the-rogue-algo-inside-the-year-spoofing-went-mainstream
[2015-12-31 21:36:50] cataquil : infomercial for that software
[2015-12-31 22:22:53] rapidtrades : they sold the Euro imto the close...mofos
[2015-12-31 22:23:32] rapidtrades : tons of games today...made the right call to stay out few days ago
[2015-12-31 22:36:13] cataquil : trading fx dur xmas-nye not generally a good ide
[2015-12-31 22:43:11] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 200 @ 429.10
[2016-01-01 04:25:10] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT7D: Buy 1500 @ 434.39
[2016-01-01 04:48:07] ethexio : Bangas
[2016-01-01 04:56:06] stevelim : Anyone around? Time to sell maybe?
[2016-01-01 04:56:56] stevelim : Happy New year!!
[2016-01-01 06:04:22] stevelim : as expected..drooping
[2016-01-01 06:06:01] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 13 @ 431.46
[2016-01-01 06:06:02] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1001 @ 431.36
[2016-01-01 07:51:03] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 60 @ 432.60
[2016-01-01 07:51:42] Yepachuchu : huobi
[2016-01-01 10:25:48] ethexio : Go
[2016-01-01 11:49:43] chromaticcr : what an order on 7D
[2016-01-01 11:58:18] rapidtrades : wtf...
[2016-01-01 11:58:26] rapidtrades : why would smone pay 433
[2016-01-01 11:58:37] BitMEX_Wally : To save on the settlement fee
[2016-01-01 11:59:01] rapidtrades : that's $1.5 above settlement price
[2016-01-01 11:59:18] rapidtrades : xbt yo
[2016-01-01 11:59:39] BitMEX_Wally : They will get a 2.5 bps rebate if it is hit
[2016-01-01 12:00:06] rapidtrades : tha's 8 cents
[2016-01-01 12:00:09] rapidtrades : sry 10 now
[2016-01-01 12:00:17] BitMEX_Wally : Odd
[2016-01-01 12:04:08] messiaen8844 : BitMEX_Wally: hi, some local time oddity here. 1 minute ago it said 7D would expire in 21h here
[2016-01-01 12:08:01] messiaen8844 : Daily expiring on 2d lol.. Accessing frok another country
[2016-01-01 12:12:19] BitMEX_Wally : messiaen8844: Could you check that the timezone is set correctly on your computer?
[2016-01-01 12:12:21] BitMEX_Wally : You might need to correct the timezone AND the time
[2016-01-01 12:12:54] rapidtrades : oh-oh...it's the 2016 BUG
[2016-01-01 12:12:56] Gomezpl : It must be date od computer
[2016-01-01 12:13:09] rapidtrades : SELL EVERYTHING
[2016-01-01 12:13:16] rapidtrades : SELL YO KIDS SELL YO WIFES
[2016-01-01 12:13:28] rapidtrades : BUG IN BITCOIN
[2016-01-01 12:15:05] Skuffone : Is okcoin website down?
[2016-01-01 12:15:32] rapidtrades : nope
[2016-01-01 12:15:54] messiaen8844 : BitMEX_Wally: accessing from android tablet, also facing similar issues in other sites, probably some issue with my settings
[2016-01-01 12:16:58] BitMEX_Wally : Skuffone: .cn is up but .com is down it seems
[2016-01-01 12:19:29] trestres : BitMEX_Wally: can you check pls my positions? As I see there are some mistakes
[2016-01-01 12:20:05] Skuffone : Ah .com is down for me
[2016-01-01 12:23:01] Skuffone : That's crazy it has been down for ages
[2016-01-01 12:24:01] Skuffone : Bet they are taking everyone's btc
[2016-01-01 12:25:50] BitMEX_Wally : trestres: I can see you have positions in XBTH16 and XBTM16
[2016-01-01 12:26:08] trestres : true
[2016-01-01 12:27:13] BitMEX_Wally : trestres: You can see your Trade History here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-01-01 12:27:50] trestres : but I should lose on XBTM16 and gain on XBTH16 and not the opposite
[2016-01-01 12:28:51] BitMEX_Wally : Every Friday all unrealisedPnl becomes realisedPnl and is available for withdrawal. We call this rebalance.
[2016-01-01 12:29:23] trestres : ah sorry ------ I didnt know it
[2016-01-01 12:29:33] BitMEX_Wally : Your PNL is still the same, it has just moved from one column to another :)
[2016-01-01 12:29:49] trestres : yes... now I understood
[2016-01-01 12:29:56] trestres : tnks
[2016-01-01 12:30:11] BitMEX_Wally : No worries, you can see the CashRebalance transaction in your wallet: https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet
[2016-01-01 13:48:12] Gomezpl : Stupid questiin any way to cancel withdrawal that was co firmed but nit completed?
[2016-01-01 13:54:29] macios15 : nice dump
[2016-01-01 13:56:59] BitMEX_Wally : Gomezpl: Yes please email support@bitmex.com
[2016-01-01 14:15:28] BitMEX_Wally : Gomezpl: I just canceled your withdrawal as we are broadcasting transactions now
[2016-01-01 14:57:26] Gomezpl : Thank you!
[2016-01-01 14:57:40] Gomezpl : Kisses:)
[2016-01-01 15:22:32] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 400 @ 432.40
[2016-01-01 16:37:07] jon___ : hello
[2016-01-01 16:50:54] REKT : Big whale detected
[2016-01-01 16:50:54] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 3 @ 431.82
[2016-01-01 18:06:32] darchray : what will happen to the orders once liquidated? will they be lost forever?
[2016-01-01 18:27:53] tscha : darchray: orders can't get liquidated. positions get liquidated. they will be taken over by the trading system.
[2016-01-01 18:31:06] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 5 @ 434.25
[2016-01-01 19:34:07] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT7D: Buy 2000 @ 437.04
[2016-01-01 20:27:08] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT7D: Buy 100 @ 439.35
[2016-01-01 20:27:55] tscha : stop manipulating 7D guys... thank you
[2016-01-01 20:28:35] sleger : why ? you got your 5 contracts position rekted ?
[2016-01-01 20:29:34] tscha : my position is 50 contracts!!!! not 5!!!!!!!
[2016-01-01 20:32:17] sleger : wow big balls here
[2016-01-01 20:39:52] tscha : i once had 7000 position!!! so dont make fun!!!!!
[2016-01-01 20:41:03] manchstr_untd1 : lol
[2016-01-01 20:41:27] sleger : 7000 bitcoins is not too bad ;)
[2016-01-01 20:41:58] tscha : not bicoins.. 7000 contracts=dollars
[2016-01-01 20:42:13] sleger : 1 contract = 1 dollar for you ?
[2016-01-01 20:42:25] justinlooking : yo sleg, u manage to run manu's position :P
[2016-01-01 20:42:37] sleger : manu ? the 7D ?
[2016-01-01 20:42:40] justinlooking : yeh
[2016-01-01 20:42:51] sleger : 8btc profit on that trade yes
[2016-01-01 20:43:00] manchstr_untd1 : sledg u bought a bunch of my 7d that got liqd didnt u? in the damn low 420s if i remember lol
[2016-01-01 20:43:18] sleger : 422 avg yes
[2016-01-01 20:43:25] manchstr_untd1 : u hold til settlement?
[2016-01-01 20:43:37] manchstr_untd1 : ugh so mad i went to sleep without reducing my position that night
[2016-01-01 20:43:39] sleger : most of it yes
[2016-01-01 20:43:41] tscha : 1000 contracts = 1000 dollars no?
[2016-01-01 20:43:53] sleger : tscha: depends where you trade I guess
[2016-01-01 20:44:10] tscha : 1100 contracts = 1400 dollars
[2016-01-01 20:44:25] manchstr_untd1 : good on you man that was a good pickup. now i got some losses to make up :p
[2016-01-01 20:44:49] sleger : I try never to leverage above 4-5
[2016-01-01 20:46:45] justinlooking : flipped a 40k short to 80 long lol u r a hero sleger
[2016-01-01 20:47:37] sleger : doesnt always work but buying 7d at 2-3 points below index when market isnt really crashing is a no brainer
[2016-01-01 20:49:48] justinlooking : running a winner is where i have always struggled
[2016-01-01 21:19:39] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 1000 @ 435.34
[2016-01-01 23:07:06] zanza : so its true the Bit-coin price will double in June?
[2016-01-01 23:07:33] Swedishnut : just got back from my time machine. Yes sir :P
[2016-01-01 23:08:00] zanza : ok great, so I should invest now
[2016-01-01 23:08:21] Swedishnut : only if you want your values to double :)
[2016-01-01 23:24:08] gustavo7 : wow someone bought up xbu
[2016-01-01 23:27:11] sleger : the last trade is a sell
[2016-01-01 23:27:41] gustavo7 : indeed
[2016-01-01 23:29:06] gustavo7 : but when you put the offer at that premium its almost the same
[2016-01-01 23:29:34] sleger : that doesnt mean anything
[2016-01-01 23:29:47] sleger : I can put an offer on xbu at 600 (big premium) so what ?
[2016-01-01 23:33:15] gustavo7 : um maybe i dont get the logic right, recent trade shows the direction the offer was originally right?
[2016-01-01 23:34:47] sleger : recent trades shows many things so you'll have to be more specific
[2016-01-01 23:35:27] sleger : anyways, you said "gustavo7: but when you put the offer at that premium its almost the same" what you meant was to say bid not offer
[2016-01-01 23:47:49] gustavo7 : yes i didn't recall the word "bid" i often use "offer" for both sides
[2016-01-01 23:50:35] gustavo7 : anyway i just tought the bid was high
[2016-01-01 23:51:57] gustavo7 : well hedged off to sleep
[2016-01-02 00:06:32] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 100 @ 436.37
[2016-01-02 00:37:51] Ugly_Old_Goat : So what it prognosis?
[2016-01-02 00:39:22] Ugly_Old_Goat : broke previous weeks low, rallied, broke again into previous weeks low, ralled
[2016-01-02 00:39:41] Ugly_Old_Goat : previous weeks low is now support.
[2016-01-02 00:39:58] Ugly_Old_Goat : Should not break it a gain if going up
[2016-01-02 00:40:27] Ugly_Old_Goat : this rally should take us to new highs.
[2016-01-02 00:40:54] Ugly_Old_Goat : slow at first and then accelerate and get wild
[2016-01-02 00:41:19] Ugly_Old_Goat : Worth what you paid for it
[2016-01-02 00:41:21] Ugly_Old_Goat : Free.
[2016-01-02 00:41:40] Ugly_Old_Goat : fully positioned
[2016-01-02 01:37:34] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 10 @ 435.00
[2016-01-02 01:43:04] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 52 @ 432.07
[2016-01-02 01:43:04] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 7650 @ 432.77
[2016-01-02 01:43:40] habibi : Ugly_Old_Goat: nice local top calling :)
[2016-01-02 01:43:44] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 2500 @ 430.75
[2016-01-02 01:45:14] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 5108 @ 437.07
[2016-01-02 01:45:14] REKT : HODL HODL HODL
[2016-01-02 01:46:24] cekseh : Sell sell sell
[2016-01-02 01:46:25] cekseh : =)
[2016-01-02 01:49:34] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 10 @ 431.57
[2016-01-02 02:46:26] Ugly_Old_Goat : should be about done on dowside
[2016-01-02 02:47:01] Ugly_Old_Goat : maybe 426-428 but not likely
[2016-01-02 02:47:12] Ugly_Old_Goat : be ready to buy if does.
[2016-01-02 02:47:34] Ugly_Old_Goat : Cover all sales about 434
[2016-01-02 02:47:47] Ugly_Old_Goat : should recover
[2016-01-02 02:47:53] Ugly_Old_Goat : accelerate slowly
[2016-01-02 02:48:04] Ugly_Old_Goat : then ge wild in Jan
[2016-01-02 02:49:32] Ugly_Old_Goat : Likely target 800+
[2016-01-02 03:02:13] Ugly_Old_Goat : 6-12 weeks
[2016-01-02 03:02:40] Ugly_Old_Goat : This place is awesome
[2016-01-02 03:03:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : Lots of thought put into it
[2016-01-02 03:04:55] Ugly_Old_Goat : Only possible improvement would be 24 hr at 4pm switches can be made
[2016-01-02 03:08:26] UglyOldGoat : Ugly Old Goat here
[2016-01-02 03:08:59] UglyOldGoat : Anybody here know me from scrypt.cc?
[2016-01-02 03:09:12] SnackyCoins : people often complain about trading on "more popular" exchanges, but seems like very little complaints from bitmex users :) except sleger
[2016-01-02 03:09:44] UglyOldGoat : This place is awesome
[2016-01-02 03:09:51] UglyOldGoat : See nothing but growth
[2016-01-02 03:10:04] UglyOldGoat : A bit different
[2016-01-02 03:10:06] SnackyCoins : agreed i only trade here now
[2016-01-02 03:10:20] UglyOldGoat : Took me a bit to figure it out
[2016-01-02 03:10:36] UglyOldGoat : But great arb and hedgin tool
[2016-01-02 03:10:47] UglyOldGoat : Rates super fantastic
[2016-01-02 03:11:25] UglyOldGoat : Old trader from 1970's, this is very well thought out
[2016-01-02 03:12:07] UglyOldGoat : very smart traders here too
[2016-01-02 03:13:23] melbeehoneyumi : Mr. im new in trading, would it be bothersome to for you to mentor me?