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[2015-12-30 21:22:21] sleger : even
[2015-12-30 21:22:26] sleger : XBU7D 284 427.53
[2015-12-30 21:22:56] rapidtrades : oh right...ur hedging that short...dam lucky
[2015-12-30 21:23:35] sleger : If you could see my equity curve, you wouldnt believe in luck anymore ;)
[2015-12-30 21:24:22] rapidtrades : does it look like this \
[2015-12-30 21:24:51] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: is the anonymous ranking going online together with the api changes? or no ETA yet?
[2015-12-30 21:25:05] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: No ETA yet, I'm focused on getting the new order types in first.
[2015-12-30 21:25:11] BitMEX_Sam : Cosmetic updates like that have to wait a bit.
[2015-12-30 21:25:20] TschavaTschigger : yeah, understandable
[2015-12-30 21:25:29] TschavaTschigger : i'm just curious who is going to place second :--)
[2015-12-30 21:25:32] sleger : rapidtrades: I have not had a more than 2 month drawdown since I started btc over 2 years ago
[2015-12-30 21:25:54] rapidtrades : okc futures now $1 higher...see this is what I'm saying...nooone's trading and the moment smone human puts a bid they jack up prices
[2015-12-30 21:26:05] rapidtrades : I didn't even need to buy
[2015-12-30 21:26:29] rapidtrades : just holiday games with the bots
[2015-12-30 21:28:05] sleger : okc fut higher because spot cny increased a
[2015-12-30 21:28:14] sleger : bit, not because of a 5c order.
[2015-12-30 21:30:38] sleger : just bought 10k 24h at almost 2 points discount now, with 14 hours left, definitely not jus
[2015-12-30 21:32:13] jung1 : sounds fair
[2015-12-30 21:54:16] rapidtrades : added some okc weekly to my already long pile...
[2015-12-30 21:55:22] rapidtrades : guess if the CNY dramatically gains in the next 36 hours I'll be screwed but otherwise I should be hedged
[2015-12-30 22:18:05] TschavaTschigger : "I should be hedged"... sounds like professonal risk management
[2015-12-30 22:38:12] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 100 @ 425.95
[2015-12-30 22:53:10] jung1 : .
[2015-12-30 22:53:27] jung1 : lets go for 2800
[2015-12-30 22:53:48] TschavaTschigger : jung1: wrong direction my friend
[2015-12-30 22:56:43] jung1 : you think so?
[2015-12-30 22:58:13] TschavaTschigger : I think we are going down. Pure guessing though, I'm just saying this because I am short
[2015-12-30 22:59:05] jung1 : hehe Im long till 43
[2015-12-30 23:00:23] TschavaTschigger : haven't had such a high position open for a few days :/
[2015-12-30 23:00:32] TschavaTschigger : I usually avoid positions over 10k
[2015-12-30 23:00:59] zanza : REKT: Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 10000 @ 425.95
[2015-12-30 23:01:13] zanza : Soon
[2015-12-30 23:01:50] TschavaTschigger : can't get liquidated ;)
[2015-12-30 23:01:58] TschavaTschigger : cross margin OP
[2015-12-30 23:01:59] zanza : everyone can
[2015-12-30 23:02:37] TschavaTschigger : nope. only all people with shorts ;) if you are long and you have high enough margin, liquidation is not possible
[2015-12-30 23:02:57] SnackyCoins : ^
[2015-12-30 23:03:12] zanza : and you are short
[2015-12-30 23:03:22] zanza : so that means you have over 43 BTC balance
[2015-12-30 23:03:27] zanza : thanks for the info !
[2015-12-30 23:03:31] SnackyCoins : i keep my liquidations at insanely low numbers
[2015-12-30 23:03:53] TschavaTschigger : zanza: your logic is flawed
[2015-12-30 23:04:30] zanza : you are short 10k and have no liquidation price on cross margin
[2015-12-30 23:05:15] TschavaTschigger : it is not possible to be short and have no liquidation price on cross margin... it's only possible when you are long.... I even said that, read again ;)
[2015-12-30 23:06:17] zanza : you said you can't get liquidated, now you are saying its impossible to not have a liquidation price
[2015-12-30 23:06:31] zanza : ??????
[2015-12-30 23:07:17] zanza : XBT is linear in BTC, so if you have higher available funds than Ordder value, you will not have a liquidation
[2015-12-30 23:08:14] TschavaTschigger : when I said "I can't be liquidated" this was meant in practical terms ;)
[2015-12-30 23:08:50] TschavaTschigger : it's possible in theory though, like with every short
[2015-12-30 23:09:12] TschavaTschigger : the price just has to rise high enough :)
[2015-12-30 23:09:27] zanza : ok
[2015-12-30 23:10:05] zanza : so how much is your balance?
[2015-12-30 23:10:15] zanza : :D
[2015-12-30 23:11:42] lockhedge : current Liq. Price for my bot's short on XBU7D: 10,000,000,000.00 :)
[2015-12-30 23:14:04] jung1 : so its possible
[2015-12-30 23:14:38] lockhedge : i think this can't be liquidated because of circuit breakers on XBU contracts, but have to calculate it
[2015-12-30 23:16:33] BitMEX_Sam : Seems pretty unlikely :)
[2015-12-30 23:16:52] jung1 : so whats your % tolerance for loss?
[2015-12-30 23:18:31] lockhedge : jung1: was this question for me?
[2015-12-30 23:18:42] jung1 : yep
[2015-12-30 23:24:30] lockhedge : there is none. but my mm bot may adjust bid/ask quotes or may not quote anymore on the ask side at all if a certain leverage is reached.
[2015-12-30 23:26:18] TschavaTschigger : lockhedge: hey, do you know the people from coinimal?
[2015-12-30 23:27:28] rapidtrades : lockhedge: look at u with ur fancy bots
[2015-12-30 23:29:16] rapidtrades : if there was no clawback risk I would buy the shit outta the dail
[2015-12-30 23:30:26] lockhedge : TschavaTschigger: no, only heard about Paul Klanschek and tested their service once. would be interesting to meet them
[2015-12-30 23:33:01] TschavaTschigger : don't know them either. but big props to them for doing that in such a highly regulated country.
[2015-12-30 23:35:08] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: is there a way to change username/email?
[2015-12-30 23:35:09] zanza : rapidtrades: clawback happen like 2 of 200 settlements ?
[2015-12-30 23:35:14] BitMEX_Sam : There are a lot of great &btc; companies in Vienna
[2015-12-30 23:35:33] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: Not officially, we can do it if you send us an email at [support@bitmex.com](mailto:support@bitmex.com)
[2015-12-30 23:35:34] rapidtrades : zanza: right...but it was close to 30%...that's deadly when arbing
[2015-12-30 23:36:01] zanza : whats the better alternative?
[2015-12-30 23:36:49] rapidtrades : alt to what?
[2015-12-30 23:37:15] zanza : Alternative to cheese for vegan pizza
[2015-12-30 23:38:14] jung1 : theres no pizza without cheese
[2015-12-30 23:42:17] lockhedge : TschavaTschigger: regulation in .at is more unpredictable (and slow) than "highly regulated", still regulatory uncertainty, but VirWoX offers Bitcoin (even for Paypal and CC) since at least 2012. they are also from Austria, a well known law firm connected to ÖVP (finance minister's party) acts as major shareholder.
[2015-12-30 23:43:17] TschavaTschigger : lockhedge: cool, didn't know that
[2015-12-30 23:44:36] jung1 : lockhedge: didnt know that also. but their page is not best one for avarage customer
[2015-12-30 23:45:45] TschavaTschigger : lockhedge: do you know any good bitcoin-accountants in austria? I just phoned with the guys that consulted coinimal a few days ago, he seemed convincing so far
[2015-12-30 23:45:55] lockhedge : TschavaTschigger: http://www.firmenabc.at/virtual-world-services-gmbh_HUEp 100% Shareholder: HBA Beteiligungs GmbH http://www.firmenabc.at/hba-beteiligungs-gmbh_KSKO
[2015-12-30 23:47:34] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 95 @ 423.77
[2015-12-30 23:47:44] lockhedge : TschavaTschigger: HBA law firm is as well specialized in tax law http://www.hba.at/schwerpunkte/#steuerrecht
[2015-12-30 23:48:34] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 20 @ 423.15
[2015-12-30 23:50:12] lockhedge : TschavaTschigger: HBA is very probably not really investing in VirWox but just act as fiduciary...
[2015-12-30 23:51:50] jung1 : but ukraine could be european bitcoin hub
[2015-12-30 23:52:18] jung1 : theres biggest bitcoin community in region, first bank add btc
[2015-12-30 23:52:58] jung1 : couse of war thera are a bit mess so bitcoin could grow there rapidly
[2015-12-30 23:53:41] lockhedge : jung1: BTC-E used to be registered in the Ukraine
[2015-12-30 23:54:44] jung1 : yeah
[2015-12-30 23:57:21] rapidtrades : lockhedge: is that true? I thught it was Bulgaria then Cyprus?
[2015-12-31 00:04:04] lockhedge : rapidtrades: don't know, but one of their early whois records (back in 2012) used to be "Kechkemetskaya 196, flat 36 Simferopol 95000 UA"
[2015-12-31 00:05:54] zanza : UA ?
[2015-12-31 00:06:04] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 100 @ 421.88
[2015-12-31 00:06:23] zanza : how is 24H
[2015-12-31 00:06:26] zanza : price so wrong ?
[2015-12-31 00:06:30] lockhedge : zanza: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ua
[2015-12-31 00:06:57] habibi : that is bearish sentiment in action
[2015-12-31 00:07:04] zanza : whats happening $5 spread
[2015-12-31 00:07:09] zanza : this is bots malfunctioning
[2015-12-31 00:07:27] zanza : wow easy long right now
[2015-12-31 00:07:31] zanza : if i had funds
[2015-12-31 00:08:04] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 273 @ 420.92
[2015-12-31 00:08:21] lockhedge : zanza: seems that most of the bots AND most of the traders use Bitfinex as reference price
[2015-12-31 00:08:46] zanza : seems stupid lol
[2015-12-31 00:11:01] TschavaTschigger : it's the most important market for the index, so it's understandable
[2015-12-31 00:11:42] lockhedge : zanza: would say both, Bitfinex and XBX are wrong, and BIX is right ;)
[2015-12-31 00:11:44] zanza : OKC0in is 46%
[2015-12-31 00:13:28] TschavaTschigger : okC0in is just 46% because xbx is deweighting finex cause they are lower than everyone else. I doubt that the trades at finex atm are somehow un-legit, so they will have an effect on the overall price, be it now or in 1h
[2015-12-31 00:14:51] TschavaTschigger : maybe i'm wrong though and BIX is right :P
[2015-12-31 00:18:52] lockhedge : TschavaTschigger: my mm bot on XBT24H currently quotes bid:421.65 ask:423.68
[2015-12-31 00:19:31] TschavaTschigger : lockhedge: your index is 424.70 though
[2015-12-31 00:20:12] TschavaTschigger : wait thats weird... it was at 424.80 or something when finex was 422... now finex recovered.... hmmm
[2015-12-31 00:20:13] lockhedge : TschavaTschigger: it uses BIX as reference but adjusts according to its (current long) position
[2015-12-31 00:21:12] TschavaTschigger : lockhedge: ah ok. well, never mind about your index price. can't remember exactly.
[2015-12-31 00:27:16] rapidtrades : wth is wrong with the daily....
[2015-12-31 00:32:46] TschavaTschigger : xbx plays with the weights too much imho
[2015-12-31 00:33:24] lockhedge : rapidtrades: maybe some "informed trading" on Bitfinex and Bitmex, wide spreads could indicate some Order Flow Toxicity http://jheusser.github.io/2013/10/13/informed-trading.html
[2015-12-31 00:33:56] TschavaTschigger : both 1) difference to mean and 2) short-term-volume are weighted too much in tradeblock
[2015-12-31 00:34:35] rapidtrades : lockhedge: in eng?
[2015-12-31 00:35:04] rapidtrades : btw finex is at $423 atm so that theory doesn't hld up
[2015-12-31 00:37:05] TschavaTschigger : it's actually moronic that an unusual, drastic increase in short-term volume leads to a *higher* weight. like it happened to coinbase.
[2015-12-31 00:37:52] rapidtrades : agree index is shit but I'm talking about market at $421
[2015-12-31 00:38:05] rapidtrades : noone's trading this low
[2015-12-31 00:38:48] TschavaTschigger : rapidtrades: no one is trading this low **yet** :--)
[2015-12-31 00:39:11] Swedishnut : calm before the ____
[2015-12-31 00:39:18] lockhedge : TschavaTschigger: fully agree about XBX/Tradeblock ^^
[2015-12-31 00:39:22] rapidtrades : good point but this place hasn't exactly lead the market...like ever
[2015-12-31 00:40:40] rapidtrades : 82,000 open interest...that's low right
[2015-12-31 00:44:22] lockhedge : rapidtrades: just buy about 18000 contracts and see what will happen then to the XBT24H price...
[2015-12-31 00:46:03] rapidtrades : nah already hit my risk limits...need more data re:clawback before making big bets
[2015-12-31 00:46:42] TschavaTschigger : risk limit = for pussies
[2015-12-31 00:46:55] rapidtrades : says the bot maker
[2015-12-31 00:47:19] TschavaTschigger : I manually traded a position over 10k just two hours ago
[2015-12-31 00:47:31] TschavaTschigger : just got rid of it like 20 minutes ago
[2015-12-31 00:47:43] rapidtrades : oh right...short ?
[2015-12-31 00:47:50] TschavaTschigger : yes
[2015-12-31 00:47:59] rapidtrades : well u lucky sob
[2015-12-31 00:48:09] rapidtrades : wait a f minute
[2015-12-31 00:48:26] rapidtrades : did u pull the bids so that price would fall
[2015-12-31 00:49:35] TschavaTschigger : yeah, I made the finex price fall $3 by selling 10k futures on bitmex
[2015-12-31 00:49:37] TschavaTschigger : you got me
[2015-12-31 00:50:05] rapidtrades : bs...we're $1.5 below finex and $3.5. below okc
[2015-12-31 00:51:07] lockhedge : TschavaTschigger: according to US prosecutors, Navinder Singh Sarao did something like you did ;)
[2015-12-31 00:51:26] rapidtrades : ahahahaha LOCK HIM UP @lockhedge
[2015-12-31 00:51:31] TschavaTschigger : I sold when finex was > 425 and bought when finex was ~ 422... what's so hard to understand about that
[2015-12-31 00:51:55] BitMEX_Sam : Go directly to jail, do not collect 200&btc;
[2015-12-31 00:52:05] rapidtrades : logged data and sent to the CFTC!
[2015-12-31 00:53:05] lockhedge : BitMEX_Sam: you could introduce a reverse DPE for profits of traders that went to jail, would be fair ;)
[2015-12-31 00:53:33] BitMEX_Sam : Sounds like a good idea with no downside
[2015-12-31 00:53:40] rapidtrades : do it
[2015-12-31 00:53:53] cryptostephen : somebody is loooking to get rekt on 100x atm
[2015-12-31 00:54:09] rapidtrades : cryptostephen: why?
[2015-12-31 00:54:24] TschavaTschigger : >Sarao, who was arrested by U.K. authorities in April, amassed a nearly £30 million fortune. But rather than snapping up a luxury Mayfair bachelor pad, still lived with his parents in a three bedroom house on a nondescript street in suburban London. living the high life
[2015-12-31 00:54:48] rapidtrades : ugh...living with parents
[2015-12-31 00:54:53] cryptostephen : mr 421
[2015-12-31 00:54:58] rapidtrades : how does he stay sane
[2015-12-31 00:58:54] TschavaTschigger : >just testing if I can add a blank line under a quote with shift by adding a whitespace.... without the whitespace it's not possible does it work?
[2015-12-31 00:58:59] TschavaTschigger : nope :(
[2015-12-31 00:59:20] TschavaTschigger : doesn't matter... pizza time <3
[2015-12-31 00:59:39] Swedishnut : You gettum Leonardo
[2015-12-31 01:02:05] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1902 @ 420.03
[2015-12-31 01:02:06] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 100 @ 419.78
[2015-12-31 01:02:15] cryptostephen : 100x futures getting slaughtered
[2015-12-31 01:02:17] cryptostephen : hell yea
[2015-12-31 01:19:12] TschavaTschigger : so guys, what are we doing new year's eve? 00:00 UTC party here?
[2015-12-31 01:19:45] TschavaTschigger : or wait for okc settlement?
[2015-12-31 01:25:36] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 1000 @ 423.02
[2015-12-31 01:28:06] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 16000 @ 423.10 <b>MEGA-REKT</b>
[2015-12-31 01:28:23] habibi : lele
[2015-12-31 01:28:33] rapidtrades : lol
[2015-12-31 01:28:33] habibi : u still like to loose money on isolated
[2015-12-31 01:29:17] habibi : even if ur price move choice is right
[2015-12-31 01:29:22] habibi : u will get fucked by random moves
[2015-12-31 01:29:57] TschavaTschigger : http://parasec.net/transmission/order-book-visualisation/
[2015-12-31 01:31:16] zanza : what kind of pizza @TschavaTschigger ?
[2015-12-31 01:31:58] TschavaTschigger : prosciutto
[2015-12-31 01:33:59] rapidtrades : FACK YEAH PROSTITUTES
[2015-12-31 01:34:44] SnackyCoins : http://i.imgur.com/DkaW6sU.jpg
[2015-12-31 01:36:54] rapidtrades : some premium would be nice
[2015-12-31 01:37:03] TschavaTschigger : SnackyCoins: haha... very very accurate
[2015-12-31 01:41:20] lockhedge : SnackyCoins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6ABhdfstM
[2015-12-31 01:41:22] BitMEX_Sam : ?
[2015-12-31 01:48:00] lockhedge : TschavaTschigger: thanks for the link, very interesting stuff
[2015-12-31 01:48:16] TschavaTschigger : lockhedge: I knew you would like this ;)
[2015-12-31 03:46:44] fourseam : hi
[2015-12-31 03:46:51] fourseam : what is xbu?
[2015-12-31 03:47:04] fourseam : how it works?
[2015-12-31 03:47:44] BitMEX_Arthur : fourseam: Hi
[2015-12-31 03:48:08] BitMEX_Arthur : Please read https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/XBU
[2015-12-31 03:52:15] ethexio : `whee`
[2015-12-31 04:13:34] habibi : **whee**
[2015-12-31 04:13:40] habibi : _whee_
[2015-12-31 04:13:47] habibi : ~whee~
[2015-12-31 04:22:13] BitMEX_Sam : :thumbsup:
[2015-12-31 04:30:48] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: Hi Sam! How much of the markdown spec is supported? Or maybe a better question is what library are you using?
[2015-12-31 04:31:46] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Most, but we're doing some extra sanitization to stay safe. Most of GitHub Flavored Markdown is valid
[2015-12-31 04:31:56] BitMEX_Sam : Also most of http://www.emoji-cheat-sheet.com/ as well
[2015-12-31 04:32:30] micmix : cool, no subscript/superscript?
[2015-12-31 04:32:48] micmix : :heart_eyes:
[2015-12-31 04:33:16] micmix : :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:
[2015-12-31 04:34:09] j8 : :chart_with_downwards_trend:
[2015-12-31 04:34:32] micmix : :panda_face:
[2015-12-31 04:34:44] micmix : :whale2:
[2015-12-31 04:35:01] micmix : :whale:
[2015-12-31 04:35:09] micmix : oh cool, whale symbol works
[2015-12-31 04:36:08] micmix : :bear: :ox:
[2015-12-31 04:36:28] BitMEX_Sam : No sub/super at this time, may add it later on.
[2015-12-31 04:36:35] micmix : :cow:
[2015-12-31 04:36:36] BitMEX_Sam : My favorite is :shipit:, which we added by hand
[2015-12-31 04:36:49] BitMEX_Sam : it might be outsized if you haven't refreshed in a while
[2015-12-31 04:37:18] micmix : :shipit:
[2015-12-31 04:37:23] micmix : nice one!
[2015-12-31 04:37:58] micmix : can't find a bull :-(
[2015-12-31 04:38:47] micmix : :cow:
[2015-12-31 04:39:00] micmix : well this is close enough
[2015-12-31 04:40:03] micmix : :neckbeard:
[2015-12-31 04:41:11] micmix : nice, will update the REKT bot after New Year
[2015-12-31 04:43:41] ethexio : :neckbeard:
[2015-12-31 04:44:58] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm. Looks like that one's not in the list
[2015-12-31 04:46:07] BitMEX_Sam : Full list is here (https://github.com/Ranks/emojione/blob/master/lib/js/emojione.js#L7), apologies it's not very readable
[2015-12-31 04:46:25] habibi : 1f603
[2015-12-31 04:46:32] habibi : :1f603:
[2015-12-31 04:54:15] gouda : looks like i should of shorted
[2015-12-31 04:54:21] gouda : yaay now i get to wait and buy the bottom :D
[2015-12-31 05:25:11] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 5714 @ 420.88
[2015-12-31 05:33:11] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1000 @ 419.11
[2015-12-31 05:44:51] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 2100 @ 419.61
[2015-12-31 05:47:42] laisee : ouch
[2015-12-31 05:53:02] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 40 @ 419.06
[2015-12-31 05:53:25] macios15 : dump just getting started
[2015-12-31 05:53:32] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 1700 @ 418.36
[2015-12-31 05:54:12] REKT : Liquidated long on XBTH16: Sell 18000 @ 495.75 <b>MEGA-REKT</b>
[2015-12-31 05:54:42] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 40 @ 417.27
[2015-12-31 05:54:42] REKT : Abandon the ship
[2015-12-31 05:55:06] macios15 : omg 2500 welcome
[2015-12-31 05:55:23] Swedishnut : idk yet
[2015-12-31 05:55:52] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 1000 @ 415.80
[2015-12-31 05:56:25] Swedishnut : 2698 90% shot in 5 min or less my guess then a retest to 2750?
[2015-12-31 05:57:19] macios15 : looks like canal
[2015-12-31 05:59:43] macios15 : 1d ema cross and we gona see some rekt
[2015-12-31 06:01:21] ethexio : >rekt
[2015-12-31 06:04:34] laisee : rekt confirmed
[2015-12-31 06:04:53] manchstr_untd1 : of course i am the mega rekt again lol
[2015-12-31 06:05:22] laisee : congrats. awesome stuff. lel.
[2015-12-31 06:15:32] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 2317 @ 419.74
[2015-12-31 06:26:47] laisee : REKT coming & going ...
[2015-12-31 07:26:17] blackwhite : Hi guys. I'm new, tell me how can i input the number of contracts buying/selling. Only can have 1 contract.
[2015-12-31 07:27:23] BitMEX_Sam : blackwhite: You should be able to simply type into the box.
[2015-12-31 07:27:52] blackwhite : only have box for price
[2015-12-31 07:30:27] BitMEX_Sam : You're probably on the Close Limit tab then - click to the Limit tab
[2015-12-31 07:31:15] blackwhite : ok found it.
[2015-12-31 07:32:22] gouda : step right up to get #rekt :D
[2015-12-31 07:32:27] gouda : have fun enjoy :D
[2015-12-31 07:32:54] blackwhite : I mistaken it for two inputs for buy/sell price; one of them was for quantity really
[2015-12-31 08:36:58] rapidtrades : good morning fellas
[2015-12-31 08:40:10] gouda : gm bitmex hustler
[2015-12-31 08:42:59] rapidtrades : :)
[2015-12-31 09:12:25] rapidtrades : so we didn't crash today huh
[2015-12-31 09:15:29] rapidtrades : Let's hope we crash into the New Year when everyone's on holiday
[2015-12-31 09:18:58] gouda : one could only hope :D
[2015-12-31 09:19:07] gouda : still made something for that drop :D
[2015-12-31 09:19:44] gustavo7 : Holz Pump
[2015-12-31 09:20:32] Gomezpl : to the skyyyy
[2015-12-31 09:21:02] Gomezpl : bfx goin up
[2015-12-31 09:25:46] rapidtrades : smone fomo-ed on finex
[2015-12-31 09:33:40] rapidtrades : that's pretty much it until settlement...at least here
[2015-12-31 11:53:52] ayy lmao : 100k sell
[2015-12-31 11:53:56] ayy lmao : lol
[2015-12-31 11:53:59] Gomezpl : yep
[2015-12-31 11:54:01] Gomezpl : incoming
[2015-12-31 11:54:03] habibi : just for settlement
[2015-12-31 11:54:11] thehawthorne : SAVE FEEES
[2015-12-31 11:54:12] habibi : free profit in case someone would buy it
[2015-12-31 11:54:24] habibi : its not about fees, there are not even 100k open interest
[2015-12-31 12:15:55] rapidtrades : I got too easy fill...looks like another discount day
[2015-12-31 13:02:16] jung1 : rapidtrades: take a break rapid
[2015-12-31 13:02:20] jung1 : nye today
[2015-12-31 13:57:32] habibi : jung1: najlepszego na nowy rok ;)
[2015-12-31 13:57:48] habibi : 100 bitków zarobionych tu jak i 100x wzrostu wartości bitka :)
[2015-12-31 14:18:22] justinlooking : ????
[2015-12-31 15:12:02] Gomezpl : Najlepszego wszystkim
[2015-12-31 15:28:13] TschavaTschigger : is this an encoding problem on my end? http://imgur.com/iH1XKKL
[2015-12-31 15:29:49] TschavaTschigger : Got UTF-8
[2015-12-31 15:31:34] jesperf : it's the emoji part of utf-8
[2015-12-31 15:31:38] jesperf : not all browsers support it
[2015-12-31 15:44:57] rapidtrades : where did the mm bots go?
[2015-12-31 16:09:50] sleger : they went party dude
[2015-12-31 16:37:04] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 1000 @ 426.92
[2015-12-31 16:40:36] macios15 : nice pump
[2015-12-31 16:42:34] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT7D: Buy 2200 @ 428.73
[2015-12-31 16:50:28] rapidtrades : it would be hilarious if bitcoin rallies on new year's eve
[2015-12-31 16:53:54] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 1000 @ 432.15
[2015-12-31 16:53:54] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 4995 @ 432.15
[2015-12-31 16:54:18] habibi : 7d <3
[2015-12-31 17:04:28] Swedishnut : whatever the outlier option Bitcoin likes to take :P
[2015-12-31 17:06:33] Swedishnut : in any case Happy New Year :)
[2015-12-31 17:08:50] Gomezpl : Habibi god job on 7:)
[2015-12-31 17:09:24] Gomezpl : I wonder if it stopa or goes all night crazy
[2015-12-31 17:15:25] rapidtrades : stopa prolly
[2015-12-31 17:18:19] rapidtrades : need more premium to sell :)
[2015-12-31 17:18:25] jesperf : all nighta crazya is my bet
[2015-12-31 17:18:25] rapidtrades : bid it up b1tches
[2015-12-31 17:19:47] rapidtrades : China already had their new year right
[2015-12-31 17:20:11] rapidtrades : so now they're coming back home drunk and getting online...fomoing like crazy
[2015-12-31 17:20:36] rapidtrades : I MISSED LAST YEAR RALLI BUT NOT DIS YEAR CHIN CHON CHING
[2015-12-31 17:51:19] habibi : Best wishes for new year for everyone! :) Even for u rapidtrades:)
[2015-12-31 17:51:39] habibi : multiple both ur bitcoins and bitcoin's price
[2015-12-31 18:16:40] rapidtrades : habibi: tnx man, you too :)
[2015-12-31 18:17:11] rapidtrades : btw this is the first and last time I will acknowledge your presence :)
[2015-12-31 18:18:51] sleger : that 120k 7d yesterday ended up being a good buy...
[2015-12-31 18:19:21] sleger : 4.6btc profit realized, 4.2 unrealized
[2015-12-31 18:23:44] habibi : sleger: so basically u realized it at 424 mostly?
[2015-12-31 18:24:13] sleger : no
[2015-12-31 18:24:26] habibi : how much contracts u bought? 40k or more?
[2015-12-31 18:24:35] sleger : i have only closed a small one. No I had bought 120k contracts
[2015-12-31 18:25:04] sleger : I went from -40k to long 80k and now still long 54k
[2015-12-31 18:25:10] habibi : hm still only 20-30k bought above 425 since that dump
[2015-12-31 18:25:45] sleger : XBT7D 53674
[2015-12-31 18:25:51] sleger : 422.23
[2015-12-31 18:25:57] habibi : k, so not 120k :p
[2015-12-31 18:26:03] sleger : yes I bought 120k
[2015-12-31 18:26:25] sleger : I was short 40k before, I bought 120k, then I was long 80k and in the last 2 hours I sold some so I am now long 53k
[2015-12-31 18:26:45] sleger : Don't use the 11=14 formula in your maths, it doesnt really work...
[2015-12-31 18:27:21] habibi : gj anyway :)and dont be an asshole :)
[2015-12-31 18:28:37] TschavaTschigger : sleger: did you really have a 2 month drawdown once?
[2015-12-31 18:29:56] sleger : yes but not on the algo
[2015-12-31 18:30:42] sleger : it was actually around same time last year, I was partying in some other country, markets were very calm, so I chose to sleep over a settlement where I had a 3k btc position
[2015-12-31 18:30:56] sleger : unfortunately between settlement and wake up, things didnt go well :p
[2015-12-31 18:31:24] sleger : something like 35 points move against me or ~-90k$
[2015-12-31 18:31:39] rapidtrades : hehe
[2015-12-31 18:31:42] rapidtrades : niceeeee
[2015-12-31 18:31:42] habibi : okc?
[2015-12-31 18:31:48] sleger : no
[2015-12-31 18:32:05] habibi : pretty costly sleep, there are no much hotels that are more expensive that this
[2015-12-31 18:32:41] habibi : sleger: where then?
[2015-12-31 18:33:19] sleger : doesnt matter for this story, I prefer not to mention where I have sometimes such large positions
[2015-12-31 18:34:02] sleger : one day I'll do it again and it will be in my favor... maybe
[2015-12-31 18:34:26] habibi : so finex! :) anyway thats this businness cost
[2015-12-31 18:41:15] rapidtrades : habibi: he said settlement
[2015-12-31 18:43:08] habibi : rapidtrades: u damm right
[2015-12-31 18:43:10] habibi : so okc only
[2015-12-31 18:43:42] habibi : or maybe 796 in past
[2015-12-31 18:44:07] rapidtrades : or he's full of shit as usual
[2015-12-31 18:44:57] sleger : rapidtrades: dont be so jealous .
[2015-12-31 18:45:33] sleger : habibi: I trade/have traded futures (yes it was a settlement) on okc, 796, bitvc, bitmex, orderbook (ex icbit)
[2015-12-31 18:51:12] rapidtrades : FX trading like bitcoin today
[2015-12-31 18:51:29] rapidtrades : swings all around, no rime or reason behind the moves :)
[2015-12-31 18:52:02] sleger : rapidtrades: where do you trade FX?
[2015-12-31 18:53:17] rapidtrades : in my mom's basement
[2015-12-31 18:53:32] sleger : I knew that but that wasnt my question
[2015-12-31 18:58:22] laisee : yahoo finance
[2015-12-31 19:11:14] rapidtrades : looks like the Yen will beat the Dollar this year
[2015-12-31 19:13:58] rapidtrades : sleger: have u traded options?
[2015-12-31 19:14:39] rapidtrades : or anyone else?
[2015-12-31 19:18:02] habibi : binary options fe?
[2015-12-31 19:18:41] habibi : even isolated margin is safer that binary options imo
[2015-12-31 19:19:36] sleger : Options yes but only on equities and bitcoin
[2015-12-31 19:20:13] rapidtrades : on bitcoin? where?
[2015-12-31 19:21:06] rapidtrades : I was gonna ask if u trade options on fx but u don't trade those
[2015-12-31 19:21:52] rapidtrades : I've been demoing with FXE but the 8-hour time window is driving me up the wall....anyone has any ideas for 24h FX options?
[2015-12-31 19:22:28] sleger : Fx only spot and fut
[2015-12-31 19:23:13] sleger : On bitcoin on predictious but kind of dead now on 796 but same so now only OTC
[2015-12-31 19:24:13] rapidtrades : yeah we need an options market
[2015-12-31 19:25:11] sleger : Why wont you say where you trade fx?
[2015-12-31 19:25:25] sleger : and how your bot is progressing?
[2015-12-31 19:26:24] rapidtrades : too busy trading to code...I'll prolly pay smone to do it
[2015-12-31 19:26:38] rapidtrades : my strats are simple anyway
[2015-12-31 19:27:19] rapidtrades : it shouldn't be too expensive
[2015-12-31 19:28:40] laisee : rapidtrades: > what advantage u think options have over futures?
[2015-12-31 19:32:07] sleger : Not enough demand for options to be viable for an exchange
[2015-12-31 19:32:56] laisee : yes. options require quite large flow to be profitable for exchanges & liquid for traders
[2015-12-31 19:33:17] rapidtrades : idk we''re already doing >1 bil per day
[2015-12-31 19:33:23] sleger : Problem is also around margin
[2015-12-31 19:34:08] laisee : 1B of cash trades for BTC? hmmm
[2015-12-31 19:34:23] rapidtrades : nah with futures
[2015-12-31 19:35:34] laisee : thats not much when it comes to options.
[2015-12-31 19:36:06] rapidtrades : how do u know? A lot of smaller US stocks have options on them
[2015-12-31 19:36:51] laisee : yes, but they're only traded on 1 or 2 exchanges. BTC volume is across many exchanges.
[2015-12-31 19:36:52] TschavaTschigger : there is no demand for options on btc yet. even futures have very low demand still, although growing.
[2015-12-31 19:36:53] sleger : Because technology and liquidity providers already exist so there was almost no cost to extend
[2015-12-31 19:37:30] rapidtrades : ok
[2015-12-31 19:37:57] sleger : Options are almost exclusively aapl and spy
[2015-12-31 19:38:00] TschavaTschigger : btw, options are too complicated for most of btc users. some even have problems grasping the concept of futures.. *cough* rapid *cough*
[2015-12-31 19:38:04] laisee : options trading & risk management is a couple of magnitudes more complex than futures IMO.
[2015-12-31 19:38:19] laisee : TschavaTschigger: > snap.
[2015-12-31 19:38:35] sleger : Lol
[2015-12-31 19:38:49] TschavaTschigger : famous quote "omg this premium"
[2015-12-31 19:38:54] rapidtrades : well well if it isn't mister Manipulator himself
[2015-12-31 19:39:15] rapidtrades : planning to pull bid again sir? just let us know in advance plz
[2015-12-31 19:39:21] laisee : cool. lets ask how he does it.
[2015-12-31 19:39:31] sleger : So now someone manipulated prices... Conspiracy theory?
[2015-12-31 19:40:11] laisee : a masonic plot to bring down finance ...
[2015-12-31 19:40:30] TschavaTschigger : sleger: I sold ~12k futures on bitmex last night, after that finex price fell $3... rapid thinks it was of my future sale :D
[2015-12-31 19:40:45] sleger : Is that how bitcoiners explain to their mom how they lost their monthly allowance?
[2015-12-31 19:40:47] TschavaTschigger : it was because*
[2015-12-31 19:40:53] rapidtrades : it was a discount...price ''didnt fall''
[2015-12-31 19:41:03] rapidtrades : smone pulled th bids
[2015-12-31 19:41:06] TschavaTschigger : rapidtrades: you still don't get it?
[2015-12-31 19:41:12] TschavaTschigger : that's hilarious
[2015-12-31 19:41:37] laisee : HFT strikes agin
[2015-12-31 19:41:44] sleger : Was there a rekt 1 contract again?
[2015-12-31 19:42:38] laisee : 2. CFTC and SEC are involved.
[2015-12-31 19:43:01] laisee : markup is weird
[2015-12-31 20:10:33] HowDoge : this is the best trollbox ever. I waste to much time reviewing the chat :D
[2015-12-31 20:22:40] TschavaTschigger : anybody already having 2016?
[2015-12-31 20:23:15] cataquil : we hit 1 ExoHash/sec this week
[2015-12-31 20:32:44] cataquil : rapid stay away from binary options in fx, that is the latest evolution of forex bucketshop scam
[2015-12-31 20:33:32] TschavaTschigger : don't worry, rapid is a professional trader
[2015-12-31 20:33:49] sleger : guy knows what he is doing
[2015-12-31 20:34:39] TschavaTschigger : rapid has a PHD in finance and is writing a forex bot
[2015-12-31 20:36:32] cataquil : sure but even the layman should get a warning
[2015-12-31 20:38:12] kingscrown : ok brothers, catch u in 2016!
[2015-12-31 20:39:44] TschavaTschigger : he has been warned a million times. but you just can't stop certain people from doing certain things... natural selection I guess
[2015-12-31 21:02:47] blackwhite : Guys can anyone help me to understand how the maint margin is calculated? I see "1% + Exit Commission" in the contract which don't tell me much. It's about 4,1% of value of my tiny position, so it's not a round number and I'm lost how it was calced
[2015-12-31 21:04:35] cataquil : anyone used this https://coinut.com/
[2015-12-31 21:05:11] SnackyCoins : i have an acct there, never funded it
[2015-12-31 21:05:25] SnackyCoins : afiak the developer is one guy funded by draper
[2015-12-31 21:06:10] SnackyCoins : then the CFTC decided what it did and lawyers came to ask him questions
[2015-12-31 21:06:17] SnackyCoins : err agents*
[2015-12-31 21:06:29] SnackyCoins : now drapers lawyers are dealing with it and he sent the dev to china
[2015-12-31 21:07:07] SnackyCoins : he made it there but i havent seen him in the telegram group for a few weeks. so... maybe watch your deposit amt there :)
[2015-12-31 21:26:13] rapidtrades : cmon baby let's see that $3 premium
[2015-12-31 21:30:23] habibi : negative one? no worries
[2015-12-31 21:32:01] cataquil : of interest http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-12-22/nabbing-the-rogue-algo-inside-the-year-spoofing-went-mainstream
[2015-12-31 21:36:50] cataquil : infomercial for that software
[2015-12-31 22:22:53] rapidtrades : they sold the Euro imto the close...mofos
[2015-12-31 22:23:32] rapidtrades : tons of games today...made the right call to stay out few days ago
[2015-12-31 22:36:13] cataquil : trading fx dur xmas-nye not generally a good ide
[2015-12-31 22:43:11] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 200 @ 429.10
[2016-01-01 04:25:10] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT7D: Buy 1500 @ 434.39
[2016-01-01 04:48:07] ethexio : Bangas
[2016-01-01 04:56:06] stevelim : Anyone around? Time to sell maybe?
[2016-01-01 04:56:56] stevelim : Happy New year!!
[2016-01-01 06:04:22] stevelim : as expected..drooping
[2016-01-01 06:06:01] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 13 @ 431.46
[2016-01-01 06:06:02] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1001 @ 431.36
[2016-01-01 07:51:03] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 60 @ 432.60
[2016-01-01 07:51:42] Yepachuchu : huobi
[2016-01-01 10:25:48] ethexio : Go
[2016-01-01 11:49:43] chromaticcr : what an order on 7D
[2016-01-01 11:58:18] rapidtrades : wtf...
[2016-01-01 11:58:26] rapidtrades : why would smone pay 433
[2016-01-01 11:58:37] BitMEX_Wally : To save on the settlement fee
[2016-01-01 11:59:01] rapidtrades : that's $1.5 above settlement price
[2016-01-01 11:59:18] rapidtrades : xbt yo
[2016-01-01 11:59:39] BitMEX_Wally : They will get a 2.5 bps rebate if it is hit
[2016-01-01 12:00:06] rapidtrades : tha's 8 cents
[2016-01-01 12:00:09] rapidtrades : sry 10 now
[2016-01-01 12:00:17] BitMEX_Wally : Odd
[2016-01-01 12:04:08] messiaen8844 : BitMEX_Wally: hi, some local time oddity here. 1 minute ago it said 7D would expire in 21h here
[2016-01-01 12:08:01] messiaen8844 : Daily expiring on 2d lol.. Accessing frok another country
[2016-01-01 12:12:19] BitMEX_Wally : messiaen8844: Could you check that the timezone is set correctly on your computer?
[2016-01-01 12:12:21] BitMEX_Wally : You might need to correct the timezone AND the time
[2016-01-01 12:12:54] rapidtrades : oh-oh...it's the 2016 BUG
[2016-01-01 12:12:56] Gomezpl : It must be date od computer
[2016-01-01 12:13:09] rapidtrades : SELL EVERYTHING
[2016-01-01 12:13:16] rapidtrades : SELL YO KIDS SELL YO WIFES
[2016-01-01 12:13:28] rapidtrades : BUG IN BITCOIN
[2016-01-01 12:15:05] Skuffone : Is okcoin website down?
[2016-01-01 12:15:32] rapidtrades : nope
[2016-01-01 12:15:54] messiaen8844 : BitMEX_Wally: accessing from android tablet, also facing similar issues in other sites, probably some issue with my settings
[2016-01-01 12:16:58] BitMEX_Wally : Skuffone: .cn is up but .com is down it seems
[2016-01-01 12:19:29] trestres : BitMEX_Wally: can you check pls my positions? As I see there are some mistakes
[2016-01-01 12:20:05] Skuffone : Ah .com is down for me
[2016-01-01 12:23:01] Skuffone : That's crazy it has been down for ages
[2016-01-01 12:24:01] Skuffone : Bet they are taking everyone's btc
[2016-01-01 12:25:50] BitMEX_Wally : trestres: I can see you have positions in XBTH16 and XBTM16
[2016-01-01 12:26:08] trestres : true
[2016-01-01 12:27:13] BitMEX_Wally : trestres: You can see your Trade History here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-01-01 12:27:50] trestres : but I should lose on XBTM16 and gain on XBTH16 and not the opposite
[2016-01-01 12:28:51] BitMEX_Wally : Every Friday all unrealisedPnl becomes realisedPnl and is available for withdrawal. We call this rebalance.
[2016-01-01 12:29:23] trestres : ah sorry ------ I didnt know it
[2016-01-01 12:29:33] BitMEX_Wally : Your PNL is still the same, it has just moved from one column to another :)
[2016-01-01 12:29:49] trestres : yes... now I understood
[2016-01-01 12:29:56] trestres : tnks
[2016-01-01 12:30:11] BitMEX_Wally : No worries, you can see the CashRebalance transaction in your wallet: https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet
[2016-01-01 13:48:12] Gomezpl : Stupid questiin any way to cancel withdrawal that was co firmed but nit completed?
[2016-01-01 13:54:29] macios15 : nice dump
[2016-01-01 13:56:59] BitMEX_Wally : Gomezpl: Yes please email support@bitmex.com
[2016-01-01 14:15:28] BitMEX_Wally : Gomezpl: I just canceled your withdrawal as we are broadcasting transactions now
[2016-01-01 14:57:26] Gomezpl : Thank you!
[2016-01-01 14:57:40] Gomezpl : Kisses:)
[2016-01-01 15:22:32] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 400 @ 432.40
[2016-01-01 16:37:07] jon___ : hello
[2016-01-01 16:50:54] REKT : Big whale detected
[2016-01-01 16:50:54] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 3 @ 431.82
[2016-01-01 18:06:32] darchray : what will happen to the orders once liquidated? will they be lost forever?
[2016-01-01 18:27:53] tscha : darchray: orders can't get liquidated. positions get liquidated. they will be taken over by the trading system.
[2016-01-01 18:31:06] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 5 @ 434.25
[2016-01-01 19:34:07] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT7D: Buy 2000 @ 437.04
[2016-01-01 20:27:08] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT7D: Buy 100 @ 439.35
[2016-01-01 20:27:55] tscha : stop manipulating 7D guys... thank you
[2016-01-01 20:28:35] sleger : why ? you got your 5 contracts position rekted ?
[2016-01-01 20:29:34] tscha : my position is 50 contracts!!!! not 5!!!!!!!
[2016-01-01 20:32:17] sleger : wow big balls here
[2016-01-01 20:39:52] tscha : i once had 7000 position!!! so dont make fun!!!!!
[2016-01-01 20:41:03] manchstr_untd1 : lol
[2016-01-01 20:41:27] sleger : 7000 bitcoins is not too bad ;)
[2016-01-01 20:41:58] tscha : not bicoins.. 7000 contracts=dollars
[2016-01-01 20:42:13] sleger : 1 contract = 1 dollar for you ?