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[2015-12-29 18:03:45] habibi : 7d again almost discount
[2015-12-29 18:04:49] TschavaTschigger : it's weird how low futures are atm, both 24H and 7D
[2015-12-29 18:05:19] habibi : too many shorts opened at 430-428
[2015-12-29 18:05:21] habibi : let get them closed
[2015-12-29 18:07:16] rapidtrades : I've been trying to long the 24h all day, noone was hitting the bids
[2015-12-29 18:08:25] TschavaTschigger : someone desperately wants to get rid of 5k 24H it seems
[2015-12-29 18:09:08] TschavaTschigger : or manipulate mark price
[2015-12-29 18:09:41] mwalshe99 : TschavaTschigger: not you trying to sell? :)
[2015-12-29 18:09:57] TschavaTschigger : mwalshe99: nope
[2015-12-29 18:16:38] Swedishnut : I gotta got get a generator for my brother. See ya in a bit :) Truck tax :P
[2015-12-29 18:18:32] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1051 @ 432.65
[2015-12-29 18:24:12] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: is there a way to hide the chart controls? they are in the way of the bottom indicator http://imgur.com/GPlO71z
[2015-12-29 18:24:32] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 3634 @ 431.27
[2015-12-29 18:30:10] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: a more extreme example: http://imgur.com/o2dbqvB
[2015-12-29 18:32:32] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: Hmm, that's the navigator control. There should be a way to disable it in the app but I can't find it
[2015-12-29 18:33:07] BitMEX_Sam : I'll see if I can add a custom rt-click option like we did with the order/positions display
[2015-12-29 18:33:20] zanza : TschavaTschigger: are you trading XBU now ?
[2015-12-29 18:33:26] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: that wouldbe nice. not urgent though.. just next time you are working on it
[2015-12-29 18:33:37] TschavaTschigger : zanza: not yet. thinking about it though. why?
[2015-12-29 18:51:32] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1500 @ 430.56
[2015-12-29 18:53:28] TschavaTschigger : zanza: why are you asking?
[2015-12-29 18:53:53] zanza : TschavaTschigger: dont you run a a bot?
[2015-12-29 18:54:03] zanza : it gives the biggest MM payout
[2015-12-29 18:54:34] TschavaTschigger : zanza: yes, I know. I don't have much time atm though, will tackle XBU in january when the new api goes live.
[2015-12-29 18:54:50] sleger : new API ?
[2015-12-29 18:55:08] TschavaTschigger : well, new order methods
[2015-12-29 18:55:14] sleger : okh ok
[2015-12-29 19:01:44] justinlooking : TschavaTschigger: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3293f01f731ee90b7a75
[2015-12-29 19:04:13] TschavaTschigger : justinlooking: cool. how can I add this? (attention, noob-alert)
[2015-12-29 19:05:02] justinlooking : i wouldn't recommend using it regularly
[2015-12-29 19:07:05] justinlooking : u can run adhoc in browser's console, but would recommend full reload afterwards
[2015-12-29 19:08:05] TschavaTschigger : justinlooking: sweet, thanks dude
[2015-12-29 19:08:32] TschavaTschigger : just learned there is a javascript console... professional web developer TschavaTschigger
[2015-12-29 19:13:52] laisee : TschavaTschigger: > it was hidden in plain view ;-)
[2015-12-29 19:21:33] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 95 @ 429.51
[2015-12-29 19:21:33] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 100 @ 429.60
[2015-12-29 19:53:40] jung1 : chart looks nice
[2015-12-29 19:53:50] jung1 : looks like 450
[2015-12-29 20:42:54] TschavaTschigger : never in my life have I been able to read any market direction out of a chart.. seems as I am just not gifted :-(
[2015-12-29 20:43:43] jung1 : so you throw a coin?
[2015-12-29 20:46:50] lockhedge : i neither can predict the future based on market data
[2015-12-29 20:47:06] jung1 : btw now It could be good time to go short on FACTOM
[2015-12-29 20:47:12] jung1 : entry hype is over
[2015-12-29 20:47:16] lockhedge : (from the past)
[2015-12-29 20:49:54] TschavaTschigger : jung1: nope. but I try to come up with profitable strategies that do not depend on me magically predicting the future
[2015-12-29 20:50:14] jung1 : fo example?
[2015-12-29 21:00:28] justinlooking : bullish chat messages from rapid :D
[2015-12-29 21:01:47] jung1 : +1
[2015-12-29 21:37:27] TschavaTschigger : my google notification icone is gone, I kept searching in settings for like 20 minutes to bring it back
[2015-12-29 21:37:39] TschavaTschigger : turns out google removed it :D
[2015-12-29 23:25:43] jung1 : okcoin break 2830
[2015-12-29 23:26:57] TschavaTschigger : moontime it seems
[2015-12-29 23:28:56] jung1 : yeah looks good
[2015-12-29 23:30:52] jung1 : 2840
[2015-12-29 23:31:08] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 2848 @ 433.25
[2015-12-29 23:36:47] habibi : 7d cheap if we break out up
[2015-12-29 23:39:11] jung1 : wkuriwające są te boty. też sobie musze chyba zmontować jakiegoś
[2015-12-29 23:41:46] cataquil : które boty zostały dokonane ?
[2015-12-29 23:42:21] jung1 : jak dajesz oferte bid/ask to sie pojawiają automatycznie nowe
[2015-12-29 23:45:22] cataquil : jak ten bot stawia niewielką ilość kontraktów 1 kleszcza przed 2000 zamówień
[2015-12-29 23:51:37] cataquil : prawdopodobnie zbyt wiele marketmakers i hedgers tutaj i nie dość przedsiębiorców . może dlatego, że cena bitcoin płaskim .
[2015-12-29 23:52:23] jung1 : roboty zabierają pracę ludziom
[2015-12-29 23:52:34] jung1 : to sie nie godzi
[2015-12-29 23:54:38] jung1 : okcoin 2450
[2015-12-29 23:55:18] cataquil : jest ok , jeśli dają nam pieniądze
[2015-12-29 23:56:10] cataquil : nie wiem, jak wiele boty są animatorami rynku lub istnieją techniczne boty analizy
[2015-12-29 23:56:21] habibi : cataquil: po jakiemu Ty piszesz ;p?
[2015-12-29 23:58:08] cataquil : translate bot
[2015-12-29 23:58:36] sleger : istnieją nie pracę są rynku bitcoin !
[2015-12-29 23:58:45] micmix : jung1: you can't find the bots, especially market maker bots
[2015-12-29 23:58:53] sleger : copy paste bot I have :))
[2015-12-29 23:59:19] micmix : placing manual bids/asks will not work unless you place them in the middle of the spread
[2015-12-29 23:59:51] cataquil : I am long traders gut. I got so fed up with bots jumping my limit so I took a market order. Now I am up, lets see if target limit filled and I get makets fee on exit
[2015-12-30 00:00:45] jung1 : yeah looks like we're bullish again
[2015-12-30 00:00:56] micmix : yes, that's the best way if you trade manually, enter with market orders and place limits and stops to exit
[2015-12-30 00:01:12] sleger : you dont want lap-dancing-providing-settlement fees ?
[2015-12-30 00:01:39] cataquil : just like the matrix, a little human input and you get 7 worlds created, studied and destroyed....choice!
[2015-12-30 00:01:41] jung1 : look at 15min chart
[2015-12-30 00:01:52] jung1 : yep same
[2015-12-30 00:02:04] jung1 : Im kinda old fashion with this
[2015-12-30 00:02:33] jung1 : I can be mad on bots, chat on trollbox
[2015-12-30 00:03:08] jung1 : and drink chocolate milk
[2015-12-30 00:03:09] micmix : sleger: I don't like settlements in general, price jumps and settlement fees
[2015-12-30 00:03:49] micmix : my bot goes mostly flat before the settlement
[2015-12-30 00:04:57] micmix : jung1: sorry, just re-read what I posted earlier. I meant to say "you can't fight the bots" instead of "you can't find the bots" :-)
[2015-12-30 00:05:09] cataquil : jung1: hot chocolate, thanks for reminding me.
[2015-12-30 00:05:43] jung1 : micmix: +1
[2015-12-30 00:06:06] micmix : I drink hot chocolate too and it interferes with my typing
[2015-12-30 00:06:21] cataquil : interexchange arb bot is probably the best for lapdancing coin. do any dancers take bitcoin?
[2015-12-30 00:07:13] micmix : cataquil: they do but you have to wait for 6 confirmations :-)
[2015-12-30 00:07:22] cataquil : micmix: yeah I have pizza oil on my keyboard now.
[2015-12-30 00:08:05] jung1 : guys check also factom on polo
[2015-12-30 00:08:12] jung1 : good time to play short imo
[2015-12-30 00:08:15] cataquil : micmix: that could delay instant gratification
[2015-12-30 00:08:39] jung1 : could be same as with ethereum
[2015-12-30 00:08:47] cataquil : 434 wall
[2015-12-30 00:09:37] micmix : jung1: I'm running a shorting bot on polo, added factom yesterday
[2015-12-30 00:10:14] jung1 : shorting on polo is fun
[2015-12-30 00:11:38] habibi : whats the leverage there?
[2015-12-30 00:11:52] habibi : and shorting is in btc as well? or need to buy factom first?
[2015-12-30 00:12:05] micmix : BTW, nice to see some Polish here. My grandmother was Polish and I can understand it well enough but can't speak :-(
[2015-12-30 00:12:30] micmix : habibi: 2.5x leverage, no need to buy factom
[2015-12-30 00:13:03] micmix : you borrow factom and short, same as on finex
[2015-12-30 00:13:45] jung1 : we will teach you
[2015-12-30 00:14:02] jung1 : some polish
[2015-12-30 00:14:16] jung1 : you can start from coinformacje.pl
[2015-12-30 00:15:35] jung1 : habibi: and you have on polo several altcoins in margin. lot of fun
[2015-12-30 00:15:50] Skuffone : why does it auto cancel when i put in a close limit order
[2015-12-30 00:16:26] sleger : just put a regular limit order the other way
[2015-12-30 00:17:10] Skuffone : yeah ok - but just wondering why
[2015-12-30 00:17:47] micmix : habibi: shorting altcoins on polo was very profitable for me, you just have to play safe bc any altcoin can spike 5x at any time
[2015-12-30 00:18:37] micmix : habibi: need to have enough margin to avoid liquidation on those spiked
[2015-12-30 00:18:43] micmix : * spikes
[2015-12-30 00:18:58] jung1 : yeah sometimes is crazy there
[2015-12-30 00:19:21] habibi : micmix: yea all in all it will go down again
[2015-12-30 00:19:23] jung1 : its like pump&dump 2.0
[2015-12-30 00:19:29] habibi : so shorting fomo spikes is great option
[2015-12-30 00:19:36] cataquil : altcoins are the pinksheets
[2015-12-30 00:19:59] jung1 : you can feel there like in '13
[2015-12-30 00:20:05] jung1 : with all this altcoin madness
[2015-12-30 00:20:23] sleger : guys guys serious tip there I just made a fortune, buy the sleger coin .... you didnt hear from me
[2015-12-30 00:20:57] jung1 : got it
[2015-12-30 00:21:11] jung1 : but it still works on yobit
[2015-12-30 00:21:27] jung1 : new shitcoin every week
[2015-12-30 00:21:34] jung1 : random pumps
[2015-12-30 00:21:52] micmix : I would definitely buy the sleger coin! For 100btc I will even help to get it listed on cryptsy :-)
[2015-12-30 00:21:55] jung1 : and you can withrawal so far
[2015-12-30 00:22:30] TschavaTschigger : i'd prefer a rapidcoin.. wait, that's actually a cool name for a cryptocurrency
[2015-12-30 00:22:52] jung1 : well its not so hard to make coin
[2015-12-30 00:23:03] jung1 : add good marketing
[2015-12-30 00:23:05] Swedishnut : lol I would buy some Rapidcoin :)
[2015-12-30 00:23:10] TschavaTschigger : yeah, just change some parameters and go
[2015-12-30 00:23:13] jung1 : make a presale
[2015-12-30 00:24:09] sleger : rapidcoin the coin negatively correlated to all the others, and where owning 11 coins is the same as 14
[2015-12-30 00:24:27] jung1 : that make sense
[2015-12-30 00:25:03] jung1 : 420 coins will be ever create
[2015-12-30 00:27:56] TschavaTschigger : x-day-future price = 0.5/x
[2015-12-30 00:28:28] TschavaTschigger : god this chat
[2015-12-30 00:29:42] TschavaTschigger : can we fix the < without whitespace making the text cutoff? it should be clear it's not html code since there is no >
[2015-12-30 00:30:27] jung1 : &btc
[2015-12-30 00:30:33] jung1 : &btc;
[2015-12-30 00:30:50] TschavaTschigger : `is this code?`
[2015-12-30 00:31:04] TschavaTschigger : `thisshouldbecodetoo butnotthis
[2015-12-30 00:31:16] jung1 : <b>think so</b>
[2015-12-30 00:31:28] TschavaTschigger : oh yeah, "between" != "behind"
[2015-12-30 00:33:03] habibi : btw clawback is clawback but Sam said he is gonna to make dpe here more explained and anavailbe data with insurance fund and so
[2015-12-30 00:33:09] jung1 : 24 jun is quite cheap now imo. Im shure that we will hit ath in '16
[2015-12-30 00:33:27] habibi : jung1: take all ur money and go in
[2015-12-30 00:33:47] jung1 : thats the plan
[2015-12-30 00:33:49] habibi : easy "gettin into milions" faq for u
[2015-12-30 00:34:11] jung1 : "milionaires for dummies"
[2015-12-30 00:35:42] TschavaTschigger : hm, if insurance funds approaches zero, volume will go down I guess.. which makes it hard for the insurance fund to gain back value
[2015-12-30 00:37:42] sleger : which insurance fund ?
[2015-12-30 00:37:56] TschavaTschigger : my car insurance fund
[2015-12-30 00:38:48] sleger : they insure tata cars ?
[2015-12-30 00:39:27] TschavaTschigger : the insurance account arthur uses to pay the lapdance bills
[2015-12-30 00:40:40] sleger : for risk of broken bone ?
[2015-12-30 00:41:33] jung1 : dark coin had once idea of something called 'dark shield". It was fund run by developers to keep price
[2015-12-30 00:41:38] jung1 : but they failed
[2015-12-30 00:42:03] Swedishnut : shields break if they are not held up by 51% or more
[2015-12-30 01:29:16] cataquil : finally filled
[2015-12-30 01:29:48] cataquil : yippee makers fee haha!!
[2015-12-30 02:08:31] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 676 @ 433.52
[2015-12-30 02:08:41] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 300 @ 431.13
[2015-12-30 02:11:21] habibi : my orders are not shown
[2015-12-30 02:11:30] habibi : i mean marked on orderbook:(
[2015-12-30 02:14:28] Swedishnut : Were they hiding Behind a Bush Orders? Thanks to Monty Python https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifmRgQX82O4
[2015-12-30 02:19:31] BitMEX_Sam : Re: the chat, I have a new version in Testnet that uses Slack/GitHub style markdown instead of HTML
[2015-12-30 02:19:46] BitMEX_Sam : It's generally much easier to write and also fixes the `> 1` bug (without the space)
[2015-12-30 02:19:54] BitMEX_Sam : rather, the issue was with `<`
[2015-12-30 02:20:27] BitMEX_Sam : As before we have many new order types we are developing and will release shortly after the New Year.
[2015-12-30 02:21:13] TschavaTschigger : yeah, looked at the new features, pretty cool
[2015-12-30 02:23:49] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: thumbs up for markdown! much better than HTML tags
[2015-12-30 02:25:34] micmix : will try to use markdown creatively for the REKT bot :-)
[2015-12-30 02:39:22] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 80 @ 434.07
[2015-12-30 03:30:43] zanza : BitMEX_Sam: you should make an "I'm feeling lucky" order type
[2015-12-30 03:45:36] habibi : there is already zanza
[2015-12-30 03:45:42] habibi : its called isolated :)
[2015-12-30 04:22:19] zanza : heh
[2015-12-30 04:53:02] gaoMex : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-29/china-suspends-foreign-banks-fx-trading-offshore-yuan-spread-signals-massive-outflow
[2015-12-30 04:54:21] gaoMex : Disguised capital control. Bitcoin to go up.
[2015-12-30 04:55:21] kingscrown : https://twitter.com/kingscrownBTC/status/682062304322711554
[2015-12-30 05:02:23] zanza : affiliate master kingscrown
[2015-12-30 05:05:10] kingscrown : thanx man ;)
[2015-12-30 05:05:16] gaoMex : No ban function? @zanza
[2015-12-30 05:05:40] kingscrown : u can give 100% to mcdonalds or 10% to other user. whats better
[2015-12-30 05:06:12] kingscrown : @gaoMex why would we ban u?! we allow free speech
[2015-12-30 05:06:57] zanza : did yall like the new Star Wars?
[2015-12-30 05:07:02] gaoMex : BitMEX_Sam: No ban function?
[2015-12-30 05:07:38] micmix : kingscrown: you are doing it wrong if you are still on 10% referral bonus
[2015-12-30 05:07:50] kingscrown : i dont check SW
[2015-12-30 05:07:58] kingscrown : aka Star Wars
[2015-12-30 05:08:29] kingscrown : @micmix im at 15%, i just mean as a rule. Better to pass few coins to 3rd party than 100% to company
[2015-12-30 05:08:39] kingscrown : 14,50% or so to be exact
[2015-12-30 05:09:35] kingscrown : 14,30% - just checked :)
[2015-12-30 05:09:47] micmix : that's good, I'm half way to 20% but I only refer myself :-)
[2015-12-30 05:10:00] kingscrown : Prolly zanza is mad i bring liquidity here.. He would like less users ;)
[2015-12-30 05:11:43] babybaby : LOL we need people here, only lamers want us to shrink
[2015-12-30 05:12:37] micmix : well posting here will not help, everyone in this trollbox already registered :-)
[2015-12-30 05:13:33] kingscrown : True that =] I only repost my posts/tweets here. My blog is http://fuk.io
[2015-12-30 05:13:51] habibi : babybaby and kingscrown is the same guy, bad he talks to himself
[2015-12-30 05:14:24] micmix : lol I'm not visiting a site with that name
[2015-12-30 05:15:27] habibi : micmix: just look @ his great trades https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjSIsGfpfXw
[2015-12-30 05:16:14] habibi : and turn off music first*
[2015-12-30 05:16:56] micmix : I saw basic interface and closed it
[2015-12-30 05:17:06] kingscrown : @habibi show us your trades :)
[2015-12-30 05:18:06] habibi : http://scr.hu/9xvi/1cw00 not big ones but profitable:)
[2015-12-30 05:18:44] kingscrown : i like it!
[2015-12-30 05:19:24] kingscrown : good profits, very nice
[2015-12-30 05:20:27] kingscrown : and ys i understand u would want me to show 300% profits, but i never know when those happen. i start videos and trade. so far i never had any exciting recording profit. so yes u can call me lame :(
[2015-12-30 05:21:10] kingscrown : when recording i never get good luck to make a cool video
[2015-12-30 05:21:41] habibi : nah, just any bigger money, basically u lives from referals, all kinds of, u say people can actually earn some real money by going to ur ref-casino links, at best case u are liar
[2015-12-30 05:26:31] kingscrown : ok will ban all 69 referalls that i got to bitmex, we need less users and less liquidity. we need 0 referrals and 0 money in this exchange
[2015-12-30 05:32:18] habibi : whats ur refs total turnover btw?
[2015-12-30 05:32:58] kingscrown : 0 they suck. they only waste BW of this site :(
[2015-12-30 05:33:28] habibi : and for real :)?
[2015-12-30 07:40:55] chromaticcr : offshore CNY 6.6, pboc rate 6.4895....
[2015-12-30 07:45:57] laisee : feel the air escaping from CNY economic bubble ...
[2015-12-30 08:33:37] rapidtrades : that's only 2%
[2015-12-30 08:50:18] ethexio : Rip
[2015-12-30 08:57:00] rapidtrades : ?
[2015-12-30 09:02:10] ethexio : Rest in Peace
[2015-12-30 09:14:35] rapidtrades : I know what rip means...ffs
[2015-12-30 09:15:00] thehawthorne : rip does not mean rest in peace ffs
[2015-12-30 10:03:24] TschavaTschigger : yes it does mean... it comes from latin "requiescat in pace" what literally means "rest in peace"
[2015-12-30 10:09:32] laisee : Q.E.D.
[2015-12-30 10:11:08] SnackyCoins : rip in peace
[2015-12-30 10:35:24] ethexio : POST /api/v1/user/rapidtrades?peace=1
[2015-12-30 10:36:54] laisee : should that be a DELETE http verb instead?
[2015-12-30 10:37:52] gustavo7 : DIP delete in peace
[2015-12-30 11:31:12] Samirum : Hi! Guys i'm new here
[2015-12-30 11:35:15] TschavaTschigger : Samirum: hi
[2015-12-30 11:41:45] ethexio : laisee: reincarnation
[2015-12-30 11:52:24] laisee : ethexio: > only on the 3rd day ...
[2015-12-30 11:53:02] laisee : Samirum: > welcome.
[2015-12-30 11:57:59] sleger : close your longs on xbt24h now to save fee
[2015-12-30 12:00:48] laisee : bugger. 2 late to save 0.00287 in fees.
[2015-12-30 12:01:11] ethexio : Let it go
[2015-12-30 12:01:47] laisee : gotto know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em ...
[2015-12-30 12:05:24] gustavo7 : ugh no1 selling xbu
[2015-12-30 12:06:00] sleger : I can sell some @435 if y
[2015-12-30 12:06:08] sleger : ou want
[2015-12-30 12:06:26] ethexio : Selling cheap
[2015-12-30 12:06:43] gustavo7 : that spread man
[2015-12-30 12:08:14] sleger : gustavo7: not interested ?
[2015-12-30 12:08:57] gustavo7 : come just a little lower :)
[2015-12-30 12:09:23] sleger : there
[2015-12-30 12:10:57] gustavo7 : sleger: that wasnt you was it?
[2015-12-30 12:11:02] gustavo7 : 430 woot
[2015-12-30 12:12:08] ethexio : Oh you
[2015-12-30 12:12:17] ethexio : Rip
[2015-12-30 12:13:04] laisee : a $5 Rip, wow?
[2015-12-30 12:13:26] gustavo7 : right as i exit my hedge
[2015-12-30 12:13:46] gustavo7 : was gonna wrap up this year by going full fiat for tax reasons also
[2015-12-30 12:14:13] laisee : it's like someone is watching my 24H trades and dumping on other markets just to hurt me ... ;-)
[2015-12-30 12:15:48] gustavo7 : ugh is sstaff online?
[2015-12-30 12:16:32] gustavo7 : i used the withdraw all button while in no position, i lowered the fee tough, now a little something is showing as leftover in my margin
[2015-12-30 12:17:12] gustavo7 : all - 0.0001 fee = 0.0004 left, just a display bug?
[2015-12-30 12:18:15] sleger : Nice bug : I have the rencent trades xbth16 showing trades from xbu
[2015-12-30 12:30:29] TschavaTschigger : weird, xbth15 trades are shown correct for me
[2015-12-30 12:30:48] sleger : switching tabs fix
[2015-12-30 12:30:55] sleger : ed it
[2015-12-30 12:38:48] TschavaTschigger : you mean, switching tabs from XBU to XBT? ;)
[2015-12-30 12:40:29] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: I will see if I can re-create
[2015-12-30 12:41:49] sleger : TschavaTschigger: nono, I emailed a screenshot to support.
[2015-12-30 12:43:03] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 2700 @ 428.69
[2015-12-30 12:43:23] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 40 @ 431.31
[2015-12-30 12:47:03] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 166210 @ 427.82 <b>REKTosaurus</b>
[2015-12-30 12:47:07] justinlooking : holy shit
[2015-12-30 12:47:11] justinlooking : dpe incoming
[2015-12-30 12:48:00] TschavaTschigger : you think so? it takes really huge drops for dpe
[2015-12-30 12:48:46] TschavaTschigger : movements like that are not far/fast enough
[2015-12-30 12:49:30] JDUB99 : where can we see the current dpe?
[2015-12-30 12:49:55] manchstr_untd1 : wekp, that was my fucking position. god damnit
[2015-12-30 12:49:57] gustavo7 : i think i'm not the only one doing a end of year wash sale
[2015-12-30 12:50:33] TschavaTschigger : JDUB99: http://imgur.com/t3I71oq
[2015-12-30 12:51:02] JDUB99 : o nice! I see it
[2015-12-30 12:51:06] JDUB99 : thx vry much
[2015-12-30 12:53:35] justinlooking : manchstr_untd1: jeez ur 75% of open intrest
[2015-12-30 12:55:25] habibi : who da fuck is that risky
[2015-12-30 12:55:28] rapidtrades : well at least I'm long there so can't get r*ped
[2015-12-30 12:56:16] sleger : taking the 7D order or not :D
[2015-12-30 12:56:24] habibi : go for that
[2015-12-30 12:56:28] justinlooking : do it slege
[2015-12-30 12:56:29] justinlooking : free money
[2015-12-30 12:56:31] habibi : u need to loose some oney as well
[2015-12-30 12:56:41] sleger : yeah you guys are just afraid to get dpe lol
[2015-12-30 12:56:47] rapidtrades : how is it free money lol...finex is at $423
[2015-12-30 12:57:12] habibi : i dont care, have only 0.1 btc profit on 7d
[2015-12-30 12:57:28] sleger : rapidtrades: because we dont use bitfinex as index here in case you didnt know already...
[2015-12-30 12:58:40] sleger : ok gonna bite some 40k to sta
[2015-12-30 12:58:54] justinlooking : nom nom
[2015-12-30 12:59:06] manchstr_untd1 : jesus
[2015-12-30 12:59:15] manchstr_untd1 : hope u have better luck with that position than i did
[2015-12-30 12:59:23] sleger : I would buy everything BUT @bitmex_arthur I dont want to do more because of settlement
[2015-12-30 12:59:30] sleger : fees
[2015-12-30 12:59:57] manchstr_untd1 : of course now that it dipped and i got MC'd its gonna go moon
[2015-12-30 12:59:59] sleger : manchstr_untd1: oh that was yours and you got margin called ? Was it on isolate or total balance ?
[2015-12-30 13:00:08] manchstr_untd1 : total :/
[2015-12-30 13:00:17] sleger : sorry to hear that
[2015-12-30 13:00:33] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 4000 @ 423.90
[2015-12-30 13:00:33] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 100 @ 424.53
[2015-12-30 13:01:21] sleger : got 40k more :
[2015-12-30 13:01:27] habibi : yea
[2015-12-30 13:01:29] habibi : 4$ price upper
[2015-12-30 13:01:30] habibi : gj
[2015-12-30 13:01:31] habibi : :)
[2015-12-30 13:01:40] habibi : now lets loose some money sleger :p
[2015-12-30 13:02:32] justinlooking : $12 spread lol
[2015-12-30 13:02:41] sleger : habibi: we shall see : XBT7D 80527 422.23
[2015-12-30 13:02:59] chromaticcr : lol 7D
[2015-12-30 13:03:03] rapidtrades : now dump :)
[2015-12-30 13:03:13] habibi : sleger: yea lets wait, it can be just a bear trap
[2015-12-30 13:03:34] habibi : but next time u wanna do it
[2015-12-30 13:03:46] habibi : sell some pennys down the orderbook and look how liq order is moved down
[2015-12-30 13:04:09] sleger : yes I saw that it was following, but some people started eating it as well.
[2015-12-30 13:04:16] rapidtrades : transaction still not accepted wtf
[2015-12-30 13:04:20] sleger : Thanks for mentioning it though.
[2015-12-30 13:04:22] rapidtrades : getting tired of this shit
[2015-12-30 13:05:14] stevelim : wow that was some big ass margin call
[2015-12-30 13:05:57] sleger : I went from -40k to +80k so I got most of it.
[2015-12-30 13:06:27] chromaticcr : in BitMEX we have to place 0.1XBT of liquidity instead of a penny to MC ppl thou
[2015-12-30 13:07:12] rapidtrades : what can i do wtih a stuck transaction?
[2015-12-30 13:07:28] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: Send an email to support@bitmex.com
[2015-12-30 13:07:35] rapidtrades : BITCOIN
[2015-12-30 13:07:36] BitMEX_Wally : Is it a deposit or withdrawal?
[2015-12-30 13:07:42] habibi : see u sleger :p
[2015-12-30 13:07:43] rapidtrades : not here
[2015-12-30 13:07:59] habibi : oh another liquidation of rapid inc
[2015-12-30 13:08:01] habibi : lets see how big
[2015-12-30 13:08:06] BitMEX_Wally : Give us a link to a blockchain explorer then
[2015-12-30 13:08:14] BitMEX_Wally : We can advise
[2015-12-30 13:08:26] rapidtrades : http://block.oklink.com/tx/f9fe379dc69437bcb77ac082461bfdb2ff65666120b72f9c4b8045d83a9225d4
[2015-12-30 13:09:40] BitMEX_Wally : 616 bytes and 0.0002 fee, should be confirmed soon
[2015-12-30 13:09:57] sleger : why is he saying it's stuck
[2015-12-30 13:10:10] rapidtrades : it says ''not be accepted''
[2015-12-30 13:10:18] habibi : rapidtrades: everything gonna be ok
[2015-12-30 13:10:20] rapidtrades : also +30 mins now
[2015-12-30 13:10:20] wurstgelee : its not stuck its only not confirmed yet
[2015-12-30 13:10:25] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: https://bitcoinfees.github.io/misc/profile/
[2015-12-30 13:10:34] sleger : that's how bitcoin works my dear friend who knows nothing.
[2015-12-30 13:10:47] wurstgelee : "not be accepted" is a weird status description tho
[2015-12-30 13:10:59] rapidtrades : exactly
[2015-12-30 13:11:01] BitMEX_Wally : That transaction has 33,000 Satoshi per kB
[2015-12-30 13:11:27] rapidtrades : it usually says 0 confirmations no?
[2015-12-30 13:11:37] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: https://blockchain.info/tx/f9fe379dc69437bcb77ac082461bfdb2ff65666120b72f9c4b8045d83a9225d4
[2015-12-30 13:11:40] wurstgelee : all fine
[2015-12-30 13:11:54] rapidtrades : tnx
[2015-12-30 13:12:01] rapidtrades : f chinese miners
[2015-12-30 13:13:57] rapidtrades : last time this happened the amount never got confirmed and the BTC was ''returned'' to my wallet
[2015-12-30 13:15:44] habibi : coz u didnt use fee
[2015-12-30 13:15:46] habibi : 0
[2015-12-30 13:15:47] habibi : null
[2015-12-30 13:15:58] habibi : and dont blame miners, blame urself
[2015-12-30 13:17:15] rapidtrades : sleger are u pumping weekly atm?
[2015-12-30 13:17:28] justinlooking : i think it is a bot
[2015-12-30 13:17:40] rapidtrades : could be
[2015-12-30 13:17:53] habibi : its ...sleger pumping to dump into bot
[2015-12-30 13:32:59] rapidtrades : finally gone through...arb's f gone now
[2015-12-30 13:33:07] rapidtrades : tnx chinese miners
[2015-12-30 13:38:28] habibi : sleger: if case we go under 390
[2015-12-30 13:38:31] habibi : will u get liq?
[2015-12-30 13:39:44] billyboy402 : how do you see the comfirm withdraws ? do yu get a email with the Tix , ot in ur account history
[2015-12-30 13:47:46] BitMEX_Wally : billyboy402: You can see all deposits and withdrawals here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet
[2015-12-30 13:47:55] habibi : sleger: [*]
[2015-12-30 13:48:07] BitMEX_Wally : We are currently processing withdrawals right now
[2015-12-30 13:48:33] billyboy402 : ok , yea i thought that today may nioit of been finish yet \
[2015-12-30 13:53:13] sleger : habibi: no : liq price < 1
[2015-12-30 13:53:19] sleger : 50
[2015-12-30 14:06:48] gustavo7 : BitMEX_Wally: ry for being away, did you cancel my withdraw because of what i reported?
[2015-12-30 14:07:27] BitMEX_Wally : gustavo7: Withdrawals are automatically cancelled after 30 minutes if they are not confirmed by email
[2015-12-30 14:07:28] BitMEX_Wally : Let me check your account
[2015-12-30 14:08:02] gustavo7 : oh welp, forgot about that
[2015-12-30 14:08:30] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, looks like it didn't get confirmed by email
[2015-12-30 14:10:32] gustavo7 : BitMEX_Wally: thx no prob i got the mail but i didnt check the mail client on my small laptop, and my phone mail is not configured for this adress
[2015-12-30 15:00:39] gustavo7 : chat down?
[2015-12-30 15:00:52] habibi : nah
[2015-12-30 15:01:08] gustavo7 : *crickets*
[2015-12-30 15:04:20] gustavo7 : fwiw this looks bad, take the 30min chart and go back before the big drop, the same elevation for a day or too before that drop
[2015-12-30 15:04:27] gustavo7 : just no momentum to go up
[2015-12-30 15:08:38] justinlooking : waiting for bearish news before it rallies out of sight
[2015-12-30 15:51:32] jung1 : nice drop
[2015-12-30 18:10:00] BitMEX_Wally : TschavaTschigger: Following our discussion on fees for hidden orders: A hidden order now only pays the taker fee if `leavesQty` is greater than `displayQty`. So there is no incentive to cancel the order once the hidden part is filled.
[2015-12-30 18:17:15] sleger : hidden order should always pay taker fee, cf bitfinex
[2015-12-30 18:18:08] sleger : or you're talking about iceberg (and not hidden) orders and then top part pays the maker fee ?
[2015-12-30 18:22:11] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: Yes iceberg orders
[2015-12-30 18:22:23] BitMEX_Wally : Hidden orders are just a special case where `displayQty = 0`
[2015-12-30 18:27:02] sleger : makes sense now, thanks
[2015-12-30 18:38:46] lockhedge : where can i find any information on hidden orders? couldn't find any in the api changelog?
[2015-12-30 18:38:52] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Wally: that change makes sense. thanks
[2015-12-30 18:39:14] BitMEX_Wally : lockhedge: They are currently being tested in testnet
[2015-12-30 18:39:46] BitMEX_Wally : lockhedge: https://testnet.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Order/Order_new
[2015-12-30 18:40:41] lockhedge : thanks
[2015-12-30 18:41:34] BitMEX_Wally : Here is the documentation (still being written): https://testnet.bitmex.com/app/orderTypeFAQ
[2015-12-30 18:52:54] lockhedge : in combination with a maker/taker fee model (that reduces market quality/transparency by distorting the price-discovery process in exchange for more liquidity) hidden orders could lead to an even higher rebate arbitrage competition that in end could lead to less volume and less liquidity.
[2015-12-30 18:53:16] lockhedge : and as a market maker, i just don't like hidden orders ;)
[2015-12-30 18:59:07] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: it's great to have Testnet to study the effects of new order types, can i run a bot on Testnet without any effects on my rate limits for api calls for my real-money bots?
[2015-12-30 19:02:05] BitMEX_Wally : lockhedge: Yes they are completely separate, you have to register for a testnet account
[2015-12-30 19:03:04] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: ok perfect
[2015-12-30 19:55:03] rapidtrades : wtf...why are we stil at discount?
[2015-12-30 19:55:39] rapidtrades : looks like another illiquid day
[2015-12-30 19:56:12] sleger : because more people want to sell at index price than buy
[2015-12-30 19:57:08] rapidtrades : doubt it...premium has a lot to do with expected volatility and if we're going down, the premium shouldn't fall
[2015-12-30 19:57:22] rapidtrades : cos falls are susceptible to crashes
[2015-12-30 19:58:40] rapidtrades : sleger: you prolly f*cked some bot up when you bought those 100k on weekly
[2015-12-30 19:59:06] sleger : on strong down move all premiums go <0 but there is volatility
[2015-12-30 20:00:26] sleger : negative, although there is volatility.
[2015-12-30 20:01:34] rapidtrades : agree re:premium but discount is unusual...we only dipped $7 today
[2015-12-30 20:02:23] sleger : I think it's because more people expect to go down more, and there are more sellers than buyers. I am quite sure most bots here just follow the market and adjust depending on buy/sell pressure.
[2015-12-30 20:03:57] rapidtrades : I would agree with that but my point was selling is only on this exchange due to liquidity issues...okc is at $426 finx at $424.3, not selling afaik
[2015-12-30 20:03:58] TschavaTschigger : lockhedge: "hidden orders could lead to an even higher rebate arbitrage competition" hidden makers pay taker-fee, hidden takers get maker-rebate... so opposite of normal orders
[2015-12-30 20:04:28] rapidtrades : TschavaTschigger: what....that sounds silly
[2015-12-30 20:06:56] sleger : no thats normal, and thats also what finex does
[2015-12-30 20:12:01] rapidtrades : hidden takers get rebate? but they're still net negative right?
[2015-12-30 20:17:13] sleger : I dont know what a hidden taker would even mean.
[2015-12-30 20:17:24] sleger : What we are saying is that hidden makers pay taker fee.
[2015-12-30 20:18:01] BitMEX_Sam : It needs to work that way because otherwise a user could place what they thought was a resting order, but it executes against a hidden order
[2015-12-30 20:18:14] BitMEX_Sam : In that case the user with the hidden order should pay the fee, not the user who placed what he thought was resting
[2015-12-30 20:18:16] rapidtrades : yeah hidden taker sounds stupid...wtf @TschavaTschigger
[2015-12-30 20:19:37] TschavaTschigger : rapidtrades: I said "hidden takers get maker-rebate" what's so hard to understand about that?
[2015-12-30 20:20:29] rapidtrades : we're all hidden takers...think about it
[2015-12-30 20:21:07] TschavaTschigger : with hidden taker I - obviously - mean someone who takes a hidden order
[2015-12-30 20:21:31] rapidtrades : oh..obviously...mofo
[2015-12-30 20:22:21] TschavaTschigger : how else could you interpret that when we are talking about hidden orders lol
[2015-12-30 20:30:10] sleger : "rapidtrades: hidden takers get rebate?" and 6 min later : "rapidtrades: yeah hidden taker sounds stupid...wtf"
[2015-12-30 20:30:47] sleger : oh alright didnt see Tschava said "hidden takers" first, my apologies
[2015-12-30 20:38:37] BitMEX_Sam : Hey @all, we've moved the chat formatting to markdown from HTML, most of the same rules apply but certain things are easier now, and it no longer chokes on 1<2
[2015-12-30 20:38:46] BitMEX_Sam : If you refresh and hover over the input box, the basic formatting rules will appear.
[2015-12-30 20:40:18] BitMEX_Sam : Basic formatting, like bold, is now `**bold**` instead of `<b>bold</b>`
[2015-12-30 20:42:29] TschavaTschigger : **markup**>*html*
[2015-12-30 20:42:35] BitMEX_Sam : :)
[2015-12-30 20:43:52] BitMEX_Sam : Someone was complaining yest that the sanitizer was mangling angle brackets yet again - I've been caught by that a few times myself - so I figured it was time to fix it for good
[2015-12-30 20:45:20] TschavaTschigger : >Someone was complaining yest that was me :P
[2015-12-30 20:47:50] rapidtrades : why is index so high? coinbase again?
[2015-12-30 20:48:41] BitMEX_Sam : Well, there you go @TschavaTschigger :)
[2015-12-30 20:49:27] BitMEX_Sam : Index is mostly OKC and bitstamp right now, see https://tradeblock.com/markets/index/
[2015-12-30 20:49:43] BitMEX_Sam : 426.21 is a perfectly reasonable midpoint price
[2015-12-30 20:51:07] rapidtrades : bit it's higher then both okc and finex
[2015-12-30 20:51:54] BitMEX_Sam : @rapidtrades bitstamp, not finex
[2015-12-30 20:52:04] BitMEX_Sam : Stamp is high and is over 20%
[2015-12-30 20:52:31] rapidtrades : wth....I hate that index
[2015-12-30 20:52:43] sleger : index makes total sense
[2015-12-30 20:53:00] BitMEX_Sam : By the way @all, if you haven't tried the **Sounds** preferences we added, give them a shot
[2015-12-30 20:53:09] rapidtrades : tnx will do
[2015-12-30 20:53:18] BitMEX_Sam : It's helpful to hear when your orders are hit.
[2015-12-30 20:54:22] rapidtrades : definitely.. that's a great help
[2015-12-30 20:54:40] rapidtrades : now I don't have to check tabs constantly...all sites should have this
[2015-12-30 20:56:54] BitMEX_Sam : I also pushed a render optimization today that gives us nearly a 50% speed boost on most browsers, free of cost. Let me know how the site is performing for you all this week.
[2015-12-30 20:57:08] BitMEX_Sam : Should be faster than ever.
[2015-12-30 21:01:06] rapidtrades : sleger: if the index made sense, we wouldn't be trading at $1.5 discount
[2015-12-30 21:01:56] sleger : okcoin weekly with 1.5 days left trades at a 2.9 discount @rapidtrades
[2015-12-30 21:02:53] sleger : weekly here with ~1.5 days as well trades at 0 discount
[2015-12-30 21:02:59] BitMEX_Sam : Futures don't have to follow the index, they're all about sentiment
[2015-12-30 21:03:11] sleger : that's what I tried to explain earlier
[2015-12-30 21:04:29] sleger : rapidtrades: why do you think all futures *should* trade at a premium ?
[2015-12-30 21:05:49] rapidtrades : not ALL futures...
[2015-12-30 21:06:07] rapidtrades : but here they should cos of the payout structure
[2015-12-30 21:06:27] sleger : because quantos ?
[2015-12-30 21:06:31] rapidtrades : ya
[2015-12-30 21:06:47] BitMEX_Sam : That's true that quantos should trade at more of a premium over inverses, but it's only one factor of many that determines basis
[2015-12-30 21:07:06] rapidtrades : it's just low liquidity imo...dec 30th
[2015-12-30 21:07:24] rapidtrades : mispricing everywhere
[2015-12-30 21:07:26] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah. Every exchange is trading slowlyt his week
[2015-12-30 21:08:01] sleger : a discount of 2.9 on 0kcoin weekly with 1.5 day left is no small discount
[2015-12-30 21:08:25] sleger : the reason is because price crash from 460 to ~400
[2015-12-30 21:08:36] rapidtrades : we're at $425...
[2015-12-30 21:09:31] sleger : yes but it was a crash on high volume, it went back up partially on low volume, and the uptrend was broken, people lost a lot of confidence
[2015-12-30 21:14:21] rapidtrades : I put a 5 cont bid on okc and it shoot up 40 cents lol
[2015-12-30 21:14:32] rapidtrades : illiquid pos
[2015-12-30 21:20:47] rapidtrades : sleger: so u think the discount is justified?
[2015-12-30 21:21:14] sleger : not really no, but it is only 1 point
[2015-12-30 21:21:46] sleger : But I dont complain, I think it's not justified so I bought contracts :
[2015-12-30 21:21:52] sleger : XBT24H 7200 424.21
[2015-12-30 21:21:55] rapidtrades : 1 is a lot of money tho...since it's quanto it's free money basically
[2015-12-30 21:21:57] sleger : XBT7D 72527 422.23
[2015-12-30 21:22:21] sleger : even
[2015-12-30 21:22:26] sleger : XBU7D 284 427.53
[2015-12-30 21:22:56] rapidtrades : oh right...ur hedging that short...dam lucky
[2015-12-30 21:23:35] sleger : If you could see my equity curve, you wouldnt believe in luck anymore ;)
[2015-12-30 21:24:22] rapidtrades : does it look like this \
[2015-12-30 21:24:51] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: is the anonymous ranking going online together with the api changes? or no ETA yet?
[2015-12-30 21:25:05] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: No ETA yet, I'm focused on getting the new order types in first.
[2015-12-30 21:25:11] BitMEX_Sam : Cosmetic updates like that have to wait a bit.
[2015-12-30 21:25:20] TschavaTschigger : yeah, understandable
[2015-12-30 21:25:29] TschavaTschigger : i'm just curious who is going to place second :--)
[2015-12-30 21:25:32] sleger : rapidtrades: I have not had a more than 2 month drawdown since I started btc over 2 years ago
[2015-12-30 21:25:54] rapidtrades : okc futures now $1 higher...see this is what I'm saying...nooone's trading and the moment smone human puts a bid they jack up prices
[2015-12-30 21:26:05] rapidtrades : I didn't even need to buy
[2015-12-30 21:26:29] rapidtrades : just holiday games with the bots
[2015-12-30 21:28:05] sleger : okc fut higher because spot cny increased a
[2015-12-30 21:28:14] sleger : bit, not because of a 5c order.
[2015-12-30 21:30:38] sleger : just bought 10k 24h at almost 2 points discount now, with 14 hours left, definitely not jus
[2015-12-30 21:32:13] jung1 : sounds fair
[2015-12-30 21:54:16] rapidtrades : added some okc weekly to my already long pile...
[2015-12-30 21:55:22] rapidtrades : guess if the CNY dramatically gains in the next 36 hours I'll be screwed but otherwise I should be hedged
[2015-12-30 22:18:05] TschavaTschigger : "I should be hedged"... sounds like professonal risk management
[2015-12-30 22:38:12] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 100 @ 425.95
[2015-12-30 22:53:10] jung1 : .
[2015-12-30 22:53:27] jung1 : lets go for 2800
[2015-12-30 22:53:48] TschavaTschigger : jung1: wrong direction my friend