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[2015-12-27 22:54:53] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: yeah sounds good
[2015-12-27 22:55:01] chromaticcr : what about a rapid-clear-the-book with a fat finger market order XDD
[2015-12-27 22:56:12] wurstgelee : micmix broke the other bot
[2015-12-27 22:56:14] wurstgelee : :p
[2015-12-27 22:56:21] Gomezpl : genius:)
[2015-12-27 22:56:51] rapidtrades : fun times when bots go nuts :D
[2015-12-27 22:57:08] chromaticcr : SantaBot ;)
[2015-12-27 22:58:07] chromaticcr : and the boxing day (time) will be 13 hours later
[2015-12-27 23:04:17] rapidtrades : usd still above china....do u think they'll catch up after the new year?
[2015-12-27 23:04:26] rapidtrades : the pagans don't even do new year right?
[2015-12-27 23:05:06] Gomezpl : china go dooowwwwnn last days they must catch up sonner or later
[2015-12-27 23:24:48] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 860 @ 425.77
[2015-12-27 23:40:24] rapidtrades : still a bit surreal watching china so low
[2015-12-27 23:48:04] rapidtrades : CHINA ALERT
[2015-12-27 23:48:09] rapidtrades : okc usd above finex
[2015-12-27 23:48:19] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 305 @ 425.43
[2015-12-27 23:48:19] REKT : Have a bowl of chop-chop suey
[2015-12-27 23:48:20] rapidtrades : now back down
[2015-12-27 23:48:59] TschavaTschigger : hm.. interesting
[2015-12-27 23:49:00] Gomezpl : gogo china buy it
[2015-12-27 23:49:03] rapidtrades : looks like tonight china will climb back on top
[2015-12-27 23:50:07] TschavaTschigger : looks more like you want to get rid of your long
[2015-12-27 23:50:54] TschavaTschigger : next hour, something crazy will happen
[2015-12-27 23:52:12] rapidtrades : cny still below usd....only okc usd on par with finex now
[2015-12-27 23:56:46] macios15 : china up bitmex down , china down bitmex up
[2015-12-27 23:57:08] Gomezpl : long night tonight
[2015-12-28 00:03:24] micmix : TschavaTschigger: was it yours 2k bot?
[2015-12-28 00:03:32] TschavaTschigger : micmix: nope
[2015-12-28 00:03:39] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 200 @ 427.22
[2015-12-28 00:03:39] micmix : good :-)
[2015-12-28 00:03:51] Gomezpl : micmi dont play your just tell us first;p
[2015-12-28 00:04:15] Gomezpl : shot my keybord broken dont have "eks" letter
[2015-12-28 00:05:37] Gomezpl : sorry for misspelling nickname
[2015-12-28 00:05:46] micmix : no problem :-)
[2015-12-28 00:06:04] Gomezpl : yeah but i have problem shitty keyboard:)
[2015-12-28 00:06:19] Gomezpl : earning time for new one:)
[2015-12-28 00:07:06] micmix : BitMEX_Wally, are you there?
[2015-12-28 00:12:14] BitMEX_Arthur : micmix: Hi
[2015-12-28 00:12:38] habibi : u are not the Wally he is looking for
[2015-12-28 00:12:48] Gomezpl : :)
[2015-12-28 00:14:14] micmix : BitMEX_Arthur: Hi Arthur! I have a suggestion for Wally: implement time smoothing for mark price to avoid $2-3 jumps when the orderbook is thin
[2015-12-28 00:14:36] micmix : will prevent unneeded liquidations
[2015-12-28 00:14:56] wurstgelee : micmix: good idea
[2015-12-28 00:15:52] TschavaTschigger : or just use more impact margin... 0.1 btc is not much, about 2500 contracts atm
[2015-12-28 00:16:09] habibi : 160+k contracts here
[2015-12-28 00:16:11] TschavaTschigger : but yeah, time smoothing is smart too
[2015-12-28 00:16:14] habibi : something is no yes today :D
[2015-12-28 00:17:45] micmix : something basic like exponential smoothing will work well, and he can test different smoothing factors to make sure it reacts fast enough
[2015-12-28 00:18:08] TschavaTschigger : you could use impact margin of 0.5-0.8 with lower weights for higher orderbook-levels
[2015-12-28 00:18:25] TschavaTschigger : something intelligent, right now it's plain simple and too easy to manipulate
[2015-12-28 00:19:53] micmix : yeah, I agree with @TschavaTschigger, it's easy to manipulate when liquidity is low as we saw today with 'battle of the bots' :-)
[2015-12-28 00:21:36] wurstgelee : premium is still odly high currently
[2015-12-28 00:21:50] wurstgelee : *D
[2015-12-28 00:26:13] micmix : BitMEX_Arthur: I also question the decision to allow hidden orders (on testnet now). You can get an orderbook that looks empty even though it's full of orders, and regular traders will be afraid to trade here. At least charge a fee for hidden orders like finex does.
[2015-12-28 00:32:01] SnackyCoins : lol @ traders will be afraid when literally every other exchange has hidden orders
[2015-12-28 00:33:41] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: Hidden orders will pay the taker fee
[2015-12-28 00:33:52] BitMEX_Wally : If you execute against a hidden order you get paid the maker rebate
[2015-12-28 00:35:14] BitMEX_Wally : I think Bitfinex do similar
[2015-12-28 00:38:29] SnackyCoins : I hope to find hidden orders 8)
[2015-12-28 00:39:13] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: that's good, finex used to charge a fixed fee for hidden orders, now it's just taker fee. what about iceberg orders?
[2015-12-28 00:40:17] BitMEX_Wally : Iceberg orders will pay the taker fee.
[2015-12-28 00:40:37] BitMEX_Wally : If you execute against a hidden portion of the iceberg order you get the maker fee for the whole amount
[2015-12-28 00:41:39] BitMEX_Wally : So if I have `orderQty=1000` and `displayQty=200` and you trade 100 contracts against the visible 200 you pay taker, but if you trade 300 contracts you get the maker rebate
[2015-12-28 00:42:47] micmix : got it. If I place an order with displayQty < orderQty will I be charged taker fee on the whole orderQty or only on the hidden portion?
[2015-12-28 00:43:28] BitMEX_Wally : If you have a non-null displayQty then you pay taker fee on the whole orderQty
[2015-12-28 00:44:00] micmix : ok, so MMs will not be able to use iceberg or hidden orders
[2015-12-28 00:44:06] TschavaTschigger : why would anybody use iceberg orders then?
[2015-12-28 00:44:20] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: MM correct, you have to pay to play
[2015-12-28 00:44:25] micmix : that's good for the orderbook appearence
[2015-12-28 00:45:00] BitMEX_Wally : Iceberg orders are not for market makers, they are for people building positions who do not want to show their hand to the market
[2015-12-28 00:45:32] TschavaTschigger : Ah... gotcha. didn't know that.
[2015-12-28 00:45:44] TschavaTschigger : that makes sense
[2015-12-28 00:48:16] BitMEX_Wally : Let me know what other order types or features you'd like
[2015-12-28 00:48:28] TschavaTschigger : no wait. why would anyone place an iceberg order (and pay taker on everything) when he can use a normal display=orderQty together with a hidden order (and collect maker on visible amount)?
[2015-12-28 00:49:34] BitMEX_Wally : TschavaTschigger: He can do that, the benefit is that the displayQty is automatically replenished after being filled
[2015-12-28 00:50:45] habibi : so basic bot can do it with rebate
[2015-12-28 00:51:11] BitMEX_Wally : One reason to use an iceberg order rather than a completely hidden order is that there is less chance of the hidden order being discovered
[2015-12-28 00:51:31] BitMEX_Wally : If I place a hidden order at the mid price (i.e. `displayQty=0`) it only takes 1 contract to ping to discover it
[2015-12-28 00:52:16] BitMEX_Wally : But if I have `orderQty=10000` and `displayQty=1000` (say) then you have to trade more than 1000 to find the hidden 9000
[2015-12-28 00:52:43] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: you can discover hidden order for free using ParticipateDoNotInitiate
[2015-12-28 00:52:51] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: Nope
[2015-12-28 00:53:06] BitMEX_Wally : ParticipateDoNotInitiate will execute against hidden orders and will get paid the maker rebate
[2015-12-28 00:53:19] BitMEX_Wally : ParticipateDoNotInitiate basically means 'do not pay taker fee'
[2015-12-28 00:54:17] micmix : yes, but if I place ParticipateDoNotInitiate order in the mid and get it executed right away I will know that there is a hidden order between the top bid/ask and the mid
[2015-12-28 00:54:35] micmix : but yeah, it will cost 1 contract
[2015-12-28 00:54:38] TschavaTschigger : you dont need a ParticipateDoNotInitiate f or this
[2015-12-28 00:54:42] BitMEX_Wally : As as if you entered a normal order
[2015-12-28 00:55:16] BitMEX_Wally : ParticipateDoNotInitiate does not let you sniff out hidden orders without trading. Same as a regular order.
[2015-12-28 00:55:24] BitMEX_Wally : I thought about this carefully
[2015-12-28 00:55:31] micmix : you are right, doesn't matter if I'm still paid maker rebate
[2015-12-28 00:55:36] BitMEX_Wally : :)
[2015-12-28 00:56:09] TschavaTschigger : so, comparing 1) iceberg against 2) normal + hidden... what's the benefit of 1) over 2)? the only reason I can think of is saving API calls. because everything you can do with 1), you can also do with 2), just cheaper
[2015-12-28 00:56:31] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, it saves API calls to babysit
[2015-12-28 00:56:37] TschavaTschigger : ah ok
[2015-12-28 00:56:48] micmix : you need a bot to replenish visible portion in case of 2)
[2015-12-28 00:57:06] macios15 : bitmex smae price when china was at 2700 fucking index
[2015-12-28 00:58:47] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: ok, another question. How is an IOC order executed against the hidden/iceberg? Same as regular limit order?
[2015-12-28 00:59:01] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2015-12-28 00:59:11] BitMEX_Wally : IOC just means that after eating through the order book the order is cancelled.
[2015-12-28 00:59:21] BitMEX_Wally : An IOC order can be a limit order or a market order
[2015-12-28 00:59:41] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Wally: when I place an iceberg, and it get's hit, and the display amount keeps replenishing... then I will pay taker for everything while display<orderQty right? and as soon as display==orderQty, I get paid maker?
[2015-12-28 00:59:53] TschavaTschigger : god the chat
[2015-12-28 01:00:14] TschavaTschigger : then I will pay taker for everything while display<orderQty, but after display==orderQty, I get paid maker right?
[2015-12-28 01:00:14] BitMEX_Wally : Iceberg orders always pay the taker fee
[2015-12-28 01:00:29] TschavaTschigger : oh, the < does not work without whitespace
[2015-12-28 01:01:25] BitMEX_Wally : BTW, do not send `displayQty` unless you want to pay taker fee. If you send `displayQty=orderQty` you will be wasting your money :)
[2015-12-28 01:01:35] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Wally: but not if the displayQty == orderQty, when the iceberg order got hit before and it kept replinishing.. then I will get maker, right?
[2015-12-28 01:01:57] TschavaTschigger : because then technically, it is no iceberg order anymore
[2015-12-28 01:02:28] BitMEX_Wally : Basically if you set a non null `displayQty` then the order always pays taker fee
[2015-12-28 01:02:46] BitMEX_Wally : Even if the `leavesQty` is less than `displayQty`
[2015-12-28 01:03:10] micmix : got it, never set displayQty :-)
[2015-12-28 01:03:42] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: Unless you want the snazzy feature of course :)
[2015-12-28 01:04:24] micmix : I will use it when getting rid of big positions
[2015-12-28 01:04:46] TschavaTschigger : this means that if displayQty == 1000 and orderQty == 4000, they hit 3000 (I pay taker of course), then 1000 are left (display and overall) and I also pay taker for that
[2015-12-28 01:05:20] TschavaTschigger : wouldn't it make more sense to set displayQty to null after the hidden amount is gone?
[2015-12-28 01:05:40] micmix : it would be more fair I guess
[2015-12-28 01:08:10] BitMEX_Wally : If people start using these orders and cancelling them once `leavesQty<displayQty` then I'll look into making the fee logic more complex
[2015-12-28 01:08:42] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: no batch order placement/amend for now?
[2015-12-28 01:08:43] BitMEX_Wally : If people start using these orders and cancelling them once leavesQty is less than displayQty then I'll look into making the fee logic more complex
[2015-12-28 01:09:06] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: No batch amend yet but it will come
[2015-12-28 01:09:44] micmix : Can't wait to stuff the orderbook with 10+ orders on both sides :-)
[2015-12-28 01:10:02] TschavaTschigger : this looks exiting overall
[2015-12-28 01:11:16] micmix : yes, thumbs up on the changes! OneCancelsTheOther and OneTriggersTheOther very useful, as well as order amend
[2015-12-28 01:15:07] BitMEX_Wally : :)
[2015-12-28 01:15:50] BitMEX_Wally : You can chain OTO orders together. The `clOrdLinkID` can link to another order's `clOrdID` (not just link to `clOrdLinkID`)
[2015-12-28 01:16:13] BitMEX_Wally : So you can have a bid that when executed places an offer, that when executed places a bid, etc etc. Poor mans market making bot
[2015-12-28 01:17:08] BitMEX_Wally : You can even have an OTO order that triggers a pair of OCO orders
[2015-12-28 01:18:08] BitMEX_Wally : Or multiple OTO orders that trigger one `clOrdLinkID` group
[2015-12-28 01:19:28] micmix : yeah, that's mind boggling. I'll have to think how to use something like that
[2015-12-28 01:20:57] BitMEX_Wally : They can even be used across different instruments. So a bid on XBU7D when executed triggers a sell on XBT7D, etc etc
[2015-12-28 01:23:30] TschavaTschigger : sounds very nice... my poor master thesis :(
[2015-12-28 01:24:51] micmix : can I provide more than one clOrdLinkID?
[2015-12-28 01:29:08] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: Only one at the moment
[2015-12-28 01:29:22] BitMEX_Wally : But it can target many orders with that clOrdLinkID
[2015-12-28 01:32:13] micmix : you mean that clOrdID doesn't have to be unique?
[2015-12-28 01:33:42] BitMEX_Wally : Ignore `clOrdID` for the moment. You can have 3 orders with the same `clOrdLinkID`. If the first order has `contingencyType=OneTriggersTheOther` then the subsequent 2 orders will start `NotTriggered` pending the first order being filled
[2015-12-28 01:33:43] micmix : not sure I understand what you mean
[2015-12-28 01:35:11] micmix : ok, got it. I thought clOrdLinkID should be equal to clOrdID of the target order
[2015-12-28 01:35:29] TschavaTschigger : I think, they dont have to do anything with each other
[2015-12-28 01:35:42] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: You can use them that way, but do not have to
[2015-12-28 01:36:02] BitMEX_Wally : If you have `clOrdLinkID` equal to the `clOrdID` of the target order then it will trigger that order.
[2015-12-28 01:36:18] BitMEX_Wally : I added this as an extra option so you could chain them together
[2015-12-28 01:36:29] TschavaTschigger : the cl0rdLinkID does not necessarily equal any cl0rdID of an order, it can just be meant for linking purpose, right?
[2015-12-28 01:36:36] BitMEX_Wally : TschavaTschigger: Correct
[2015-12-28 01:36:46] TschavaTschigger : then I got it. smart.
[2015-12-28 01:37:28] micmix : got it, you can use clOrdLinkID as a separate ID just for linking
[2015-12-28 01:37:47] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, I tried to make it as flexible as possible
[2015-12-28 01:38:08] TschavaTschigger : yeah, the system looks very promising. still not sure yet what I can do with those kind of orders, but it's almost 3 am here... maybe that's the reason
[2015-12-28 01:38:52] BitMEX_Wally : We won't expose all this complexity on the frontend UI though, probably just some simple OTO/OCO options with 2 orders
[2015-12-28 01:40:00] TschavaTschigger : would be funny though if frontend has full complexity.. wanna see rapidtrade's face
[2015-12-28 01:52:16] billyboy402 : Do we still have to pay a fee for settlement . Think it suck that we have to hold and let it settle as there no liquidity
[2015-12-28 01:55:16] SnackyCoins : that is a risk of trading billy
[2015-12-28 01:59:23] BitMEX_Wally : billyboy402: What size position are you trying to get out of?
[2015-12-28 02:06:25] billyboy402 : If I have 20k it hard to get rid of it within the last hour
[2015-12-28 02:09:07] billyboy402 : I still rather okc way of settlement
[2015-12-28 02:11:49] billyboy402 : also we need volume on xbu . Year there liquidity . But the bot make it shit to trade . They place a order In front . They when I take a order . The bots remove the next order down . So yea it look nice but complete waste of time to trade it
[2015-12-28 02:18:41] billyboy402 : personly I rather see 5 humans order then the current 100 bots that look pretty and fill up the book but get pull the sec that I take 1 contract . Give false hope that your trading a type market with X liquidity but really is just a façade
[2015-12-28 02:20:24] billyboy402 : then ppl like my self . Deposit , try your service , then leave because it not suitable for them
[2015-12-28 02:22:36] wurstgelee : increasing volume and user numbers suggest it's working out tho
[2015-12-28 02:23:15] billyboy402 : also why it there no bots that hedge vs okc . Shortly some out there can sell the 3 months on bitmex $520 and buy okc $470 . But there shit load of bots to shit all over your trade and front run you with 1cent in front
[2015-12-28 02:23:50] TschavaTschigger : lol
[2015-12-28 02:25:20] billyboy402 : LOL worth count always front run me
[2015-12-28 02:26:59] ethexio : Front run the front runners. Battle the bots, we can win.
[2015-12-28 02:28:02] ethexio : It's us against them, band together. We are strong. Just do it. (Sponsored by Nike)
[2015-12-28 02:28:38] ethexio : I'm an ad bot, !help for more info
[2015-12-28 02:28:57] billyboy402 : personly I think you should remove all fees on xbu . Every one want to make the the 0.1% and there no taker . Then come settlement I going to have to pay 0.3% because there no way I can close more then 50 contracts xbu with out the bots pulling order or having slippage
[2015-12-28 02:29:10] ethexio : INVALID COMMAND
[2015-12-28 02:31:08] BitMEX_Wally : The settlement fee on XBU is 0.20%
[2015-12-28 02:32:59] Swedishnut : POTATO!!!
[2015-12-28 02:35:36] rapidtrades : China back above US on some exchanges...slowly back to normal
[2015-12-28 03:00:27] billyboy402 : i dont understand why there a a cost for bitmex to settle balance
[2015-12-28 03:01:02] billyboy402 : but 0.20% is still 10x more then other after i have just paid a fee to open it
[2015-12-28 03:01:24] BitMEX_Wally : Post some limit orders and you can enter and exit without paying a fee
[2015-12-28 03:02:15] rapidtrades : yeah fee to both open and close is a bit much imo
[2015-12-28 03:02:46] billyboy402 : there plenty of limit order already there , and i am only going to get front run from the bost , there a trade less then every 30 min .
[2015-12-28 03:02:55] rapidtrades : guess u have to do it this way to pay for limits but it's still way above even spot fees
[2015-12-28 03:03:29] billyboy402 : if there was no fees bots could trade each other , ( also it inpossiable to chart base of bitmex price as the mayu not be a trade for 3 hours
[2015-12-28 03:10:13] rapidtrades : biggest problem with it is short duration
[2015-12-28 03:11:05] rapidtrades : if it was 3 month or 6 month we'll only have to pay fees once plus the fomos will pay a small premium so in the end we may come ahead
[2015-12-28 03:12:58] rapidtrades : okc march is at $437 atm...not same thing cos there's clawback risk but you will definitely see some premium
[2015-12-28 03:37:21] Ugly_Old_Goat : Hello Fellas
[2015-12-28 03:37:52] Ugly_Old_Goat : I love the place and done moderately well the few weeks I have been here
[2015-12-28 03:38:07] Ugly_Old_Goat : But have some questions and perhaps you can help
[2015-12-28 03:38:45] Ugly_Old_Goat : I do not understand how the Fair Price Index is calculated
[2015-12-28 03:39:31] Ugly_Old_Goat : Like most of the weekend the Fair Price was at or below the major exchange rates
[2015-12-28 03:39:55] Ugly_Old_Goat : Now it is $5 to$8 above
[2015-12-28 03:40:09] Ugly_Old_Goat : Any idea why?
[2015-12-28 03:40:23] rapidtrades : it will tend to trade in the middle of bid/ask
[2015-12-28 03:40:48] habibi : its kindly the same as spot here
[2015-12-28 03:40:56] rapidtrades : so your question should be why are prices here not the same as on other exchanges
[2015-12-28 03:41:46] Ugly_Old_Goat : yes, but not really
[2015-12-28 03:41:50] rapidtrades : fair is only relevant if you're close to a margin call, otherwise bid/ask is the market
[2015-12-28 03:42:11] Ugly_Old_Goat : My real question is how is the Fair Price calculated?
[2015-12-28 03:42:47] Ugly_Old_Goat : Right now it is above Bitstamp and Biefinex
[2015-12-28 03:42:50] rapidtrades : fair follows market not the other way around
[2015-12-28 03:43:56] Ugly_Old_Goat : yes it follows the market, but today it went from a discount to a preimium.
[2015-12-28 03:44:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : Why?
[2015-12-28 03:44:13] rapidtrades : cos the market went from discount to premium
[2015-12-28 03:45:04] Ugly_Old_Goat : But the fair price is an index not a market
[2015-12-28 03:45:24] BitMEX_Arthur : Fair price is based on the bid ask of the futures contract
[2015-12-28 03:45:33] rapidtrades : no fair price is middle of market...the number next to it is the settlement index
[2015-12-28 03:45:45] sleger : Ugly_Old_Goat: https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation bottom of this page
[2015-12-28 03:45:47] rapidtrades : $428 is index
[2015-12-28 03:46:20] BitMEX_Arthur : sleger: you beat me to it :)
[2015-12-28 03:55:56] Ugly_Old_Goat : Thanks Fellas, I got it but still don't get it
[2015-12-28 03:58:01] rapidtrades : ....cos ur ignoring what I'm saying
[2015-12-28 04:00:15] rapidtrades : fair price just shows u where we're trading, it's not useful for anything unless you're about to get margin called
[2015-12-28 04:04:32] arbitrage001 : okcoin settlement model is flawed
[2015-12-28 04:04:52] arbitrage001 : okcoin i mean
[2015-12-28 04:04:59] arbitrage001 : okc
[2015-12-28 04:05:19] arbitrage001 : would advice not to trade future contract over there
[2015-12-28 04:05:32] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 2500 @ 428.53
[2015-12-28 04:09:02] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1826 @ 427.93
[2015-12-28 04:09:12] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 473 @ 427.86
[2015-12-28 04:10:32] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 100 @ 427.57
[2015-12-28 04:10:32] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 4000 @ 427.54
[2015-12-28 04:10:32] REKT : Abandon the ship
[2015-12-28 04:12:02] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 6870 @ 426.93
[2015-12-28 04:42:56] micmix : small UI bug report for BitMEX_Sam: settlement fee is shown as a number 0.0005 instead of 0.05% in the instrument table. hover description is missing as well.
[2015-12-28 06:06:00] ethexio : Whee
[2015-12-28 06:06:12] billyboy402 : it say woodship when you say okc , is is a stuiped and shit thing bitmex does , but it there troll box
[2015-12-28 06:37:53] cekseh : Everyone welcome our newest troll, mr billyboy!
[2015-12-28 06:38:16] gouda : Fresh! okcoin
[2015-12-28 06:41:27] ethexio : Welcome..
[2015-12-28 06:43:40] ethexio : OKC0IN meh
[2015-12-28 07:07:20] chromaticcr : okcrap okcasino OhClawback whatever you name it
[2015-12-28 08:03:49] billyboy402 : cekseh: I AM NOT A TROLL . BUT I dont want to be dictaded in what i say and how i say it
[2015-12-28 08:05:38] cekseh : Get used to reality son. You are being allowed to use a website that doesn't belong to you. You will abide by however they decide to do things =)
[2015-12-28 08:08:16] billyboy402 : 1. I am not ur son . 2 . we are paying customer . they are using use to build wealth for them self . if they close down we would all move to the next exchange
[2015-12-28 08:15:17] laisee : billyboy402: > fork any exchange code on github and build your own exchange that has exactly the features u like. Freedom's just a download away ... ;-)
[2015-12-28 08:17:26] cekseh : The only freedom you have is the freedom to leave, son. You are still being allowed to use someone else's platform to probably lose your lunch money.
[2015-12-28 08:18:28] cekseh : When you learn how to use the internet certain things will become clear, a big one is that anyone can tell you how to behave on their platform/game/forum, or they can just remove you.
[2015-12-28 08:20:12] cekseh : Then you get the option to spend some of the valuable seconds left in your life evading bans and doing it again =)
[2015-12-28 09:04:46] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 2150 @ 431.51
[2015-12-28 09:05:06] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 15020 @ 427.47 <b>MEGA-REKT</b>
[2015-12-28 09:11:16] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 200 @ 426.77
[2015-12-28 09:11:36] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 1 @ 426.05
[2015-12-28 09:11:36] REKT : Big whale detected
[2015-12-28 09:11:36] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1000 @ 425.86
[2015-12-28 09:11:36] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 100 @ 425.86
[2015-12-28 09:12:31] chromaticcr : rekt time
[2015-12-28 09:14:40] micmix : everyone's getting REKTified
[2015-12-28 09:16:08] chromaticcr : i wonder if the santabot this morning will get bu
[2015-12-28 09:16:12] chromaticcr : bust*
[2015-12-28 09:17:34] chromaticcr : Fair Basis Rate 2236%
[2015-12-28 09:17:39] chromaticcr : someone wake me up
[2015-12-28 09:20:55] micmix : chromaticcr: no, the 2k bot that was quoting with big premium should be ok. it bought maybe 10k-20k @ $430, and we went higher later so it probably sold most of it
[2015-12-28 09:42:07] rapidtrades : gm fellas
[2015-12-28 09:42:14] chromaticcr : yo rt
[2015-12-28 10:19:07] TschavaTschigger : morning
[2015-12-28 11:04:50] rapidtrades : sup
[2015-12-28 11:50:01] sleger : Stupidest time of the day has come : hello longs, time to close before settlement to save on fees
[2015-12-28 12:12:31] rapidtrades : noone's selling
[2015-12-28 12:12:57] sleger : very little, I was only able to offset about 10k
[2015-12-28 12:31:12] TschavaTschigger : big props to @sleger for still believing in our community
[2015-12-28 12:33:18] TschavaTschigger : I gave up.. I am now getting rid of my positions before settlement.
[2015-12-28 12:36:59] laisee : been doing it that way as often as I can for months now.
[2015-12-28 12:37:39] laisee : no good surprises in settlement here., sadly ..
[2015-12-28 12:48:55] cataquil : you really got to get those exit limits in a few hours before settlement
[2015-12-28 12:49:16] cataquil : sucks if there are any good moves 11-12 umt
[2015-12-28 12:57:17] lockhedge : added real-time latency data to BIX alpha https://robotfinance.org/bix/
[2015-12-28 12:58:14] lockhedge : latency data currently only comes from my Frankfurt based server, will add more locations (and features) soon
[2015-12-28 12:58:50] habibi : go micmix fuck up this bot again ! :p
[2015-12-28 13:11:47] TschavaTschigger : lockhedge: surprised about the high latency to finex, frankfurt-milano shouldn't be that much
[2015-12-28 13:12:24] TschavaTschigger : also, kraken is in ireland, should be <50
[2015-12-28 13:12:29] TschavaTschigger : < 50
[2015-12-28 13:18:39] lockhedge : Bitfinex is very unstable, Kraken is also very surprising to me, maybe they have DDoS issues again - will add latency stats/charts at a later stage
[2015-12-28 13:29:38] TschavaTschigger : finex is unstable? really? are you pulling or using ws?
[2015-12-28 13:30:09] TschavaTschigger : it's 100% rockstable for me via ws
[2015-12-28 13:31:50] TschavaTschigger : how are you measuing the latency?
[2015-12-28 14:03:27] gielbier : anyone got a clue what the fairprice / market price api endpoints are?
[2015-12-28 14:05:01] justinlooking : /instrument i think. 1 sec
[2015-12-28 14:06:23] gielbier : aah great! ty :)
[2015-12-28 14:06:25] gielbier : https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/instrument?symbol=XBT24H :)
[2015-12-28 14:07:06] justinlooking : nice one
[2015-12-28 14:07:45] gielbier : messing a bit with the api atm, but it seem most nodejs stuff is either deprecated, or removed
[2015-12-28 14:08:09] gielbier : but i'm not unhappy with this http://i.imgur.com/RJl7IgO.png
[2015-12-28 14:08:48] sleger : @admin : there seems to be more than just myself complaining about settlement fees, maybe it is not just a "moot point" anymore ?
[2015-12-28 14:09:12] gielbier : just kind of missed the "fair price" etc in that dataset
[2015-12-28 14:09:19] justinlooking : nice, what u write it in? I have done some curses stuff with termbox for go recently, was a pleasant experience...
[2015-12-28 14:11:35] gielbier : nodejs ofc :)
[2015-12-28 14:12:13] gielbier : im writing a api wrapper atm. packages on npm don't work good enough
[2015-12-28 15:15:50] TschavaTschigger : justinlooking: started to learn python a few days ago :D fukk my life this language is clean, smooth and easy
[2015-12-28 15:27:20] justinlooking : TschavaTschigger: wicked :)
[2015-12-28 15:28:48] gielbier : only thing i dont like about python is the ident syntax
[2015-12-28 15:29:09] TschavaTschigger : i love the indent syntax
[2015-12-28 15:29:16] chromaticcr : +1 to the indentation, some prefer 4 ' ', some 8 some tab
[2015-12-28 15:29:19] chromaticcr : hell lotta trouble
[2015-12-28 15:29:52] justinlooking : *cough* 2 *cough*
[2015-12-28 15:30:04] gielbier : nah then i need to turn the ide to do background color on tabs.
[2015-12-28 15:30:25] TschavaTschigger : I am just so overwhelmed by doing stuff for which I need 20 lines in Java in only 4-5 lines... and java is already high-level
[2015-12-28 15:31:18] gielbier : java is verbose as hell
[2015-12-28 15:43:02] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 700 @ 424.43
[2015-12-28 15:57:00] Swedishnut : Dow and S&P getting pummeled below the 2050. Current is 2043 SP with further pressures down.
[2015-12-28 16:00:56] laisee : TschavaTschigger: > Python is v.nice language. You may never go back ...
[2015-12-28 16:01:07] rapidtrades : it's only 0.79% relax
[2015-12-28 16:01:12] rapidtrades : hardly pummeled
[2015-12-28 16:03:21] gielbier : laisee: until you walk away from your workstation and someone does a space/tab replace...
[2015-12-28 16:04:02] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 8500 @ 423.48
[2015-12-28 16:08:46] laisee : gleiber> ah, thats what IDE settings are for. I don't use Tabs, so thats one good thing ;-)
[2015-12-28 16:15:19] cataquil : python has really good libraries
[2015-12-28 16:15:49] cataquil : syntax is not that clean imho
[2015-12-28 16:18:37] TschavaTschigger : it's fun to code though. java is really hard to get going, especially for small projects or when you are trying out something... and I don't know any other languages, I guess matlab/eviews/maple don't really count in that regard
[2015-12-28 16:20:46] cataquil : isn't eclipse easy to use for java? I usually use c# on visual studio
[2015-12-28 16:21:02] cataquil : but I can use python tools and step right into mmbot
[2015-12-28 16:23:06] TschavaTschigger : i use intellij, it's a fantastic ide. but still, creating small projects is much more effort in java than python for example. maybe I'm just too stupid though.
[2015-12-28 16:23:16] TschavaTschigger : the hardest part about java is maven :D
[2015-12-28 16:24:51] cataquil : jetbrains make some great tools
[2015-12-28 16:25:08] TschavaTschigger : I am just downloading pycharm :D
[2015-12-28 16:25:22] cataquil : I do like webstorm for angular
[2015-12-28 16:26:01] cataquil : yep I downloaded it but I saw python tools well supported in vs2015
[2015-12-28 16:26:14] cataquil : can switch python version, integration with pip
[2015-12-28 16:34:43] TschavaTschigger : I am just not sure if python is fast enough for the stuff I am doing, have multiple big lists on which I need to do operations every few milliseconds.. in Java there are special libs which allow me to create high-performance lists that store primitives (the standard collection lib is very slow).. not sure if I can get the same speed in py
[2015-12-28 16:42:29] sleger : depends what kind of operations ?
[2015-12-28 16:47:00] TschavaTschigger : pretty much all kinds. have normal lists where I insert/change/remove entries with certain index, or sort them. have fixed-size queues. have large hashmaps where I need fast put/get. ordered maps, ordered sets...
[2015-12-28 16:47:05] TschavaTschigger : guess I will just find out
[2015-12-28 16:49:12] sleger : Most of the underlying code is C++ so if you use the right object/library it should be fast
[2015-12-28 17:05:27] justinlooking : TschavaTschigger: it can bog down very quickly when async.
[2015-12-28 17:07:52] cataquil : how long will bm throw 503 after settlement
[2015-12-28 17:09:02] TschavaTschigger : Sam/Wally, are you here?
[2015-12-28 17:10:03] HowDoge : whoever made BIX, thanks :) you should plot it to a chart
[2015-12-28 17:14:17] TschavaTschigger : HowDoge: it was lockhedge :)
[2015-12-28 17:16:01] HowDoge : its very helpful :) thanks Lockhedge
[2015-12-28 17:16:40] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: Yeah, what's up?
[2015-12-28 17:18:42] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: have a little request. I am trying to use the "active orders" tab to get a quick overview of my active orders (sounds logical so far). However, the orders there are sorted by time, not my status... so sometimes I have to scroll down through 4-5 canceled orders to find active orders.. maybe you can put status as 1st sort-priority and time as 2nd? so we have the active orders on top?
[2015-12-28 17:19:22] TschavaTschigger : I know i can clear them manually, but still
[2015-12-28 17:19:44] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, that's understandable
[2015-12-28 17:19:49] BitMEX_Sam : I'll add a ticket for it.
[2015-12-28 17:20:25] TschavaTschigger : makes more sense if we can see the active orders first on the "active orders" tab, not the canceled ones
[2015-12-28 17:20:26] TschavaTschigger : thanks
[2015-12-28 17:20:55] wurstgelee : or simply two checkboxes to filter canceld and filled orders....
[2015-12-28 17:20:59] wurstgelee : *e
[2015-12-28 17:21:02] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-28 17:21:10] gielbier : sup mr wurst
[2015-12-28 17:21:24] TschavaTschigger : or that :)
[2015-12-28 17:22:09] wurstgelee : gielbier: not much, home from work 5 mins ago, mixed a gin tonic, now couching ;)
[2015-12-28 17:24:23] gielbier : nice
[2015-12-28 17:24:39] wurstgelee : last working day for this year =)
[2015-12-28 17:25:06] gielbier : still 2 day to go here
[2015-12-28 17:25:15] wurstgelee : also dash might finally get a pump now, feels like i am bagholding it since.... forever :|
[2015-12-28 17:25:26] wurstgelee : meh @ 2 days
[2015-12-28 17:25:43] gielbier : nah its rather chill tbh
[2015-12-28 17:25:57] gielbier : not many ppl, work gets done
[2015-12-28 17:26:58] wurstgelee : had almost the same today. almost no people.
[2015-12-28 17:27:05] wurstgelee : but didnt get anything done
[2015-12-28 17:27:08] gouda : anyone else chart messed up in bitmex
[2015-12-28 17:27:09] wurstgelee : oO
[2015-12-28 17:27:16] gouda : i only see volume but no candles
[2015-12-28 17:27:26] gouda : anyone know how to turn candles back on
[2015-12-28 17:27:26] wurstgelee : nope, looks fine
[2015-12-28 17:27:55] coolcatgee : right click chart, "Reset Chart"
[2015-12-28 17:28:13] gouda : first thing i did :D
[2015-12-28 17:28:26] gouda : http://prntscr.com/9jiiu6
[2015-12-28 17:28:58] coolcatgee : click and drag the price indicator on the right
[2015-12-28 17:29:06] coolcatgee : your price is outofbounds
[2015-12-28 17:29:42] coolcatgee : or left click the chart and drag your mouse up
[2015-12-28 17:29:53] gouda : http://prntscr.com/9jijil
[2015-12-28 17:29:55] gouda : nope
[2015-12-28 17:30:10] coolcatgee : hmm
[2015-12-28 17:30:21] gouda : logging out didn't fix it either
[2015-12-28 17:30:27] coolcatgee : restart browser?
[2015-12-28 17:30:31] gielbier : who is the api dev from bitmex?
[2015-12-28 17:30:44] BitMEX_Sam : gielbier: I am
[2015-12-28 17:30:58] BitMEX_Sam : gouda: Sounds like a TradingView bug, you can likely fix it by opening a console and:
[2015-12-28 17:31:03] BitMEX_Sam : `localStorage.clear()`
[2015-12-28 17:31:22] BitMEX_Sam : then refresh.
[2015-12-28 17:31:33] gouda : thanks for the help.. looks like issue with firefox
[2015-12-28 17:31:39] gouda : chrome works
[2015-12-28 17:31:43] gielbier : BitMEX_Sam: can you please auth when headers are send on public apis
[2015-12-28 17:31:49] gielbier : remove
[2015-12-28 17:32:15] BitMEX_Sam : I'm curious, why does it matter?
[2015-12-28 17:32:32] BitMEX_Sam : All requests, public or private, are ratelimited
[2015-12-28 17:33:42] gielbier : because i can do https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/instrument?symbol=XBT24H without valid apikey. but if I set apikey header. auth gets enfornced
[2015-12-28 17:34:09] gielbier : seems like a waste
[2015-12-28 17:34:22] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, auth is used for ratelimiting. We generally fail hard rather than silently do the wrong thing. If you sent invalid credentials, you might be ratelimited prematurely
[2015-12-28 17:34:45] BitMEX_Sam : It doesn't cost a significant amount on our end. If you are concerned about it simply don't send the headers.
[2015-12-28 17:35:36] gielbier : nah. i mean more the point that you still have auth stuff running on public apis. so it messed with nodejs stuff, setting default headers for testing
[2015-12-28 17:36:09] BitMEX_Sam : Sorry but this is the way it has to work, we use the auth to allow higher ratelimits for users who have requested them
[2015-12-28 17:36:21] BitMEX_Sam : We don't like to fail silently, so if invalid credentials are set we intend for a 401 to be sent.
[2015-12-28 17:36:56] BitMEX_Sam : As for Node, perhaps you haven't seen https://github.com/BitMEX/api-connectors/tree/master/official/node
[2015-12-28 17:40:09] gielbier : yeah i saw that one
[2015-12-28 18:12:56] cataquil : Sam: on DPE page, how is bankruptcy price initially determined? ie long $100 liquidation price 99.50... so I assume liquidation price is the stoploss. but bankruptcy price is 0.50 lower, why there initially.
[2015-12-28 18:13:28] cataquil : I realize if there is anything in insurance fund it will be added to bankruptcy price
[2015-12-28 18:27:20] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: was BitMEX down for couple minutes at 2015-12-28T13:08:24.218Z or is it something on my side?
[2015-12-28 18:41:17] sleger : i saw the website down couple of minutes too earlier today'
[2015-12-28 18:42:46] nn_ : Hi anyone trading XBT here
[2015-12-28 18:43:40] Sunray091 : Oh cool IRC mirrors the trollbox
[2015-12-28 18:48:51] TschavaTschigger : micmix: 13:08 UTC? my logs don't show any disconnects
[2015-12-28 19:19:17] macios15 : sooo boring
[2015-12-28 19:27:51] cekseh : https://i.gyazo.com/f1c09d89be370a46c62b16268b76391a.png
[2015-12-28 19:32:07] micmix : TschavaTschigger: websocket didn't disconnect but I was getting timeouts from the REST API, maybe proxy problems
[2015-12-28 19:32:28] TschavaTschigger : micmix: didn't have any problems, checked logs
[2015-12-28 19:32:42] TschavaTschigger : and I was using rest
[2015-12-28 19:33:05] micmix : TschavaTschigger: ah ok, thanks, must be something here
[2015-12-28 19:40:36] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1408 @ 421.49
[2015-12-28 19:40:37] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1000 @ 420.99
[2015-12-28 19:47:06] rapidtrades : so no premium at all today huh? cmooooon buy some :)
[2015-12-28 19:49:28] rapidtrades : bitcoin so cheap here :)
[2015-12-28 19:52:43] habibi : are u retarted
[2015-12-28 19:52:47] habibi : or are u rapidtrades?
[2015-12-28 19:55:07] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 100 @ 420.39
[2015-12-28 19:56:07] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 2 @ 418.69
[2015-12-28 19:56:07] REKT : Big whale detected
[2015-12-28 19:56:07] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 300 @ 418.65
[2015-12-28 19:57:38] micmix : I'd be happy to buy some more but no one is selling
[2015-12-28 19:57:51] rapidtrades : good
[2015-12-28 20:01:00] laisee : wait for next dump. another 2 or 300 for sale then.
[2015-12-28 20:09:49] rapidtrades : tbe unrealized PnL for the march contract is since Friday?
[2015-12-28 20:10:56] justinlooking : yes it's rebalanced on fridays
[2015-12-28 20:11:11] rapidtrades : ok tnx
[2015-12-28 20:20:22] sleger : you still didnt know that ??????
[2015-12-28 20:25:40] cataquil : provocative=default
[2015-12-28 20:26:20] cataquil : Bix thanks for making pusher open
[2015-12-28 20:41:36] rapidtrades : I'm desperate for attention so I have to reply to anything smone special says and use a lot of question marks????????
[2015-12-28 20:41:47] zanza : ????
[2015-12-28 20:49:55] justinlooking : no love at btcc
[2015-12-28 21:53:09] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 500 @ 423.07
[2015-12-28 22:04:19] rapidtrades : cataquil: whats pusher
[2015-12-28 22:09:06] sleger : how is your bot progressing ?
[2015-12-28 23:07:58] cataquil : rapidtrades: websocket channel for BIX
[2015-12-28 23:08:22] cataquil : https://github.com/pusher/pusher-js
[2015-12-28 23:12:37] Swedishnut : Nice digest :)
[2015-12-28 23:14:49] micmix : cataquil: pusher is not bad, I was using it with Cryptsy. some disconnects here and there but generally stable
[2015-12-28 23:24:57] ag580108 : Is this exchange better then ok coin??
[2015-12-28 23:30:59] cataquil : the php script doesn't include as much data as just calling the pusher script in the webpage
[2015-12-28 23:36:47] BitMEX_Sam : ag580108: Definitely
[2015-12-28 23:48:34] SlinQ : bitmex is one of the best exchanges i've seen
[2015-12-28 23:54:54] zanza : definitely best interface SlinQ
[2015-12-28 23:57:10] TschavaTschigger : guys, if you have problems with bitmex website on android due to heavy JS, try puffin
[2015-12-28 23:57:21] TschavaTschigger : it's incredibly fast and smooth
[2015-12-28 23:58:14] TschavaTschigger : orderbook moving smooth on my galaxy s2... with chrome I have no chance
[2015-12-29 00:03:13] zanza : galaxy s2 what year is this?
[2015-12-29 00:11:33] TschavaTschigger : 2016 I'll buy a new phone
[2015-12-29 00:17:48] Universe : lol
[2015-12-29 01:04:39] cataquil : puffin looks like a bunch of flash dev last ditch shot at staying on the phone
[2015-12-29 01:23:51] TschavaTschigger : the browser is awful, but very fast. I don't use it for browsing, just for heavy js sites
[2015-12-29 01:39:08] rapidtrades : China sets the Yuan reference rate at 6.4864 against the US Dollar, 6.4750 prioR
[2015-12-29 02:09:35] chromaticcr : here we go again
[2015-12-29 02:09:48] habibi : chromaticcr: wheere?
[2015-12-29 02:10:01] chromaticcr : oh i mean USDCNY
[2015-12-29 02:10:27] chromaticcr : been like a stable rate for a week
[2015-12-29 02:13:34] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1000 @ 422.53
[2015-12-29 02:43:25] ag580108 : made over $600 today by following signals from http://bitpredicts.com/ and twitters :)
[2015-12-29 02:45:49] cekseh : https://ixquick.com/do/search?q=bitpredicts
[2015-12-29 02:46:01] cekseh : I think you are being disingenuous.
[2015-12-29 02:46:03] cekseh : =)
[2015-12-29 02:46:45] j8 : lol
[2015-12-29 02:46:48] SnackyCoins : lol cek
[2015-12-29 02:47:02] SnackyCoins : @Bitmex_Arthur i think we got a spambot
[2015-12-29 02:47:30] j8 : stay at home mom makes $12732 a week using this one simple trick!
[2015-12-29 02:48:49] habibi : ag580108: made 1200$ today by playing against bitrpedicts
[2015-12-29 02:49:24] SnackyCoins : nobody made shit today because we haven't gone anywhere 8)
[2015-12-29 02:49:46] macios15 : SnackyCoins: +1 fucking boring
[2015-12-29 02:50:23] habibi : SnackyCoins: lier!
[2015-12-29 02:50:48] SnackyCoins : spot moved more than we did
[2015-12-29 03:23:07] Swedishnut : Spot runs outside and chases sticks :)
[2015-12-29 03:53:08] JDUB99 : hi question about xbu7d
[2015-12-29 03:53:21] JDUB99 : why do I have realized PNL when my position is still open?
[2015-12-29 03:54:09] JDUB99 : do I get charged or rewarded for holding a position?
[2015-12-29 03:59:23] Swedishnut : if your short and it ges down reward. and visa versa for holding
[2015-12-29 04:07:50] JDUB99 : even though i still have unrealized PNL?
[2015-12-29 04:08:33] JDUB99 : so does that mean by holding a winning for a year, I get rewarded even if that position becomes a loss later?
[2015-12-29 04:09:07] JDUB99 : and why does it seem like my reward is so much larger than my penalty ratio?
[2015-12-29 04:12:01] JDUB99 : is there somewhere I can read up on the policy for realized PNL?
[2015-12-29 04:21:27] BitMEX_Arthur : JDUB99: Unrealised PNL is the difference between your entry price and the Mark Price
[2015-12-29 04:21:45] BitMEX_Arthur : You only realise PNL once you have closed a position
[2015-12-29 04:30:11] JDUB99 : thats the thing is that I have realized PNL even though my position is still open
[2015-12-29 04:30:18] JDUB99 : is it froma previous position?
[2015-12-29 04:48:07] BitMEX_Arthur : JDUB99: yes it will show life to date realised pnl for that symbol
[2015-12-29 04:48:44] BitMEX_Arthur : say you bought 10 at 100 and sold 1 at 110, your realised pnl would be 1 and your unrealised pnl 9
[2015-12-29 04:49:07] BitMEX_Arthur : 10 and 90 for the pnl
[2015-12-29 04:55:41] JDUB99 : ok i see it, thanks arthur!
[2015-12-29 05:47:27] kingscrown : make 100 #bitcoin before halving guide - http://fuk.io/how-to-make-100-btc-within-5-months-earn-bitcoins-before-halving-in-2016/
[2015-12-29 06:04:08] zanza : click my referral links lol
[2015-12-29 06:14:38] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 100 @ 419.39
[2015-12-29 06:44:52] ethexio : eep
[2015-12-29 06:54:13] zanza : the new XBU seems really popular so far
[2015-12-29 08:26:11] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1888 @ 419.75
[2015-12-29 09:00:57] rapidtrades : good morning REKT!
[2015-12-29 09:06:41] Gomezpl : morning
[2015-12-29 09:06:48] Gomezpl : but its 10.06:)
[2015-12-29 10:18:03] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 8 @ 421.70
[2015-12-29 11:00:12] sleger : "BitMEX_Arthur: You only realise PNL once you have closed a position" that was wrong by the way
[2015-12-29 11:02:45] BitMEX_Arthur : sleger: How so he asked about XBU contracts, there is no rebalancing, so you only realise pnl when you close a positino
[2015-12-29 11:02:48] BitMEX_Arthur : position
[2015-12-29 11:03:24] sleger : BitMEX_Arthur: missed the fact it was xbU7, then it was entirely correct, my apologies
[2015-12-29 11:03:33] BitMEX_Arthur : :)
[2015-12-29 11:35:26] cataquil : can you read sledger?
[2015-12-29 11:35:49] cataquil : ;)
[2015-12-29 11:36:44] sleger : cataquil: it's "sleger" not "sledger", can you read ?
[2015-12-29 11:36:54] sleger : ;)
[2015-12-29 11:38:17] laisee : freudian slip
[2015-12-29 12:06:28] rapidtrades : laisee: how is that slip freudian?
[2015-12-29 12:10:45] BitMEX_Wally : It's when you say one thing and mean a mother
[2015-12-29 12:11:31] sleger : lol
[2015-12-29 12:13:08] rapidtrades : hehe
[2015-12-29 12:17:16] laisee : cos sleger is a .... slegder ... har har har ;-)
[2015-12-29 12:17:59] rapidtrades : but sledger is not an actual word so it doesn't make sense
[2015-12-29 12:18:29] laisee : rapidtrades: > I take it you don't follow cricket?
[2015-12-29 12:29:22] sleger : laisee: are you indian ?