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[2015-12-25 12:12:36] rapidtrades : chromaticcr: dam $625 huh
[2015-12-25 12:12:46] rapidtrades : only $200 premium lol
[2015-12-25 12:12:55] chromaticcr : “only"
[2015-12-25 12:13:05] habibi : not that much tho compared to 25 march
[2015-12-25 12:13:52] rapidtrades : nah only 25%
[2015-12-25 12:13:55] chromaticcr : https://i.gyazo.com/91b7576141b08c8577f050d0d5ec0463.png
[2015-12-25 12:14:00] rapidtrades : what's 25 percent among friend
[2015-12-25 12:14:03] rapidtrades : *s
[2015-12-25 12:19:56] chromaticcr : here comes the XBU bot
[2015-12-25 12:20:27] rapidtrades : that rebate too good to pass up huh
[2015-12-25 12:24:06] chromaticcr : taking the best ask incl fee would approx to 0.05% per day on USD
[2015-12-25 12:31:07] sleger : 0.3btc of settlement fees ! Twice what it should be, that's $75 extra or 3 lap dances for Arthur, you're welcome
[2015-12-25 12:40:30] yolofred : Merry Christmas!
[2015-12-25 12:45:36] justinlooking : merry xmas everyone
[2015-12-25 12:46:01] justinlooking : long 3000, stop 2970
[2015-12-25 13:00:40] TschavaTschigger : justinlooking: merry xmas dude
[2015-12-25 13:06:13] ferdousbd : how come my realised PNL is -ve for a position that is open?
[2015-12-25 13:07:42] BitMEX_Wally : ferdousbd: Trading fees
[2015-12-25 13:08:34] ferdousbd : -0.3935 XBT Trading fees! That's insane b/c I don't have a huge position open
[2015-12-25 13:08:53] BitMEX_Wally : ferdousbd: Let me check your account
[2015-12-25 13:09:24] ferdousbd : thx
[2015-12-25 13:10:11] BitMEX_Wally : ferdousbd: Ahh, this is due to rebalancing. Every Friday all unrealisedPnl becomes realised
[2015-12-25 13:11:06] ferdousbd : ouch. ok thanks will keep that in mind in futre
[2015-12-25 13:11:51] BitMEX_Wally : If you keep the position open and the price retraces then you'll end up back where you started. The rebalancing is so that people can withdraw realisedPnl
[2015-12-25 13:12:08] ferdousbd : Got it. OK that's cool
[2015-12-25 13:22:10] dr.rock : these long term contracts are worthless for whats its worth
[2015-12-25 13:26:41] dr.rock : i guess that's the point
[2015-12-25 13:26:54] justinlooking : ?
[2015-12-25 13:30:13] dr.rock : funny the bots didn't even touch my stops. still open down 30 points. it's like playing a computer that only takes the winning side
[2015-12-25 13:30:43] dr.rock : i guess that's the "market"
[2015-12-25 13:32:38] billyboy402 : can we please update https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2015-12-25 13:48:40] rapidtrades : this okc volume is so f fake today
[2015-12-25 13:48:59] rapidtrades : u put up a 1 btc order and all of a sudden price moves down/up
[2015-12-25 13:49:03] rapidtrades : f bullshit
[2015-12-25 13:49:51] BitMEX_Wally : billyboy402: I'm updating that now
[2015-12-25 13:50:01] rapidtrades : same spot/futures...some manipulated bs today
[2015-12-25 13:50:07] billyboy402 : BitMEX_Wally: cheers mate
[2015-12-25 13:50:34] rapidtrades : when 1 BTC moves the orderbook, u knw shit's f up
[2015-12-25 14:46:13] billyboy402 : is there some where in the FAQ qhy bitmex use 1 contract = 1000 sat = $1 . and not one contract = $1
[2015-12-25 14:47:00] billyboy402 : iu know there xbu , but i am trying to work out how to make a price calurlator so i dont have to come on the website to work out my profit and lost
[2015-12-25 14:47:16] billyboy402 : try to make it in excel
[2015-12-25 14:49:57] billyboy402 : it easy to create one for okc total bitcoun brought when open X price - total brought / price = total bitcoin Profit or lost
[2015-12-25 14:50:39] sleger : hold on @rapidtrades will help you figure it out :))
[2015-12-25 14:50:42] cataquil : just download csv
[2015-12-25 14:50:55] cataquil : click formula and select column with p/l
[2015-12-25 14:51:53] billyboy402 : pretty much what i want is the " open Calurlator " but in excel ...
[2015-12-25 14:52:47] billyboy402 : I want to put the price , $100 to $1000 one side , and then line up with profit X contracts = P&L
[2015-12-25 14:54:16] billyboy402 : so i can scroll down , see eg 456 AND see that if i brought 1000 contracts at $450 i will be in 0.0600 in profit
[2015-12-25 14:54:54] billyboy402 : guess i have to work out value of entry postion - value of exit
[2015-12-25 14:55:01] billyboy402 : = profit
[2015-12-25 14:55:17] sleger : billyboy402: why dont you use https://www.bitmex.com/app/futuresContractFormulas ?
[2015-12-25 14:58:35] billyboy402 : S * C * M * P for USD value confuse me , doesnt work ,
[2015-12-25 14:58:42] billyboy402 : the XBT value works
[2015-12-25 14:59:43] billyboy402 : oh the USD value of 1000 contracts is always changing nvm ,
[2015-12-25 14:59:46] sleger : so you're saying that converting xbt to usd by multiplying by xtbusd price is incorrect ?
[2015-12-25 15:00:21] sleger : ofc it's changing since contracts are in btc not in usd like 0kcoin
[2015-12-25 15:01:29] billyboy402 : yea , that C * M * (P2 - P1) is better ., i was thinking the wrong way
[2015-12-25 15:03:01] sleger : I'm sure you're not the only one around here, no worries :)
[2015-12-25 15:03:30] billyboy402 : cool that work alot out ,
[2015-12-25 15:18:38] ferdousbd : Why does bitmex quarterly for March trade at huge premium over okc quarterly?
[2015-12-25 15:20:30] billyboy402 : no idea , some one want to buy them higher , i dont know why you want to , if you think it going up in 90 day , just widraw your coin and send them to okcoin and buy a long contract there
[2015-12-25 15:22:54] j8 : billyboy402: might want to consult your spreadsheet. they're not the same thing
[2015-12-25 16:20:43] BitMEX_Wally : We have pricing spreadsheets BTW: https://www.bitmex.com/app/pricingSpreadsheets
[2015-12-25 16:58:14] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: There is someone putting many tiny orders on the bid on 7D, please write down his account as well ;)
[2015-12-25 16:58:35] zanza : ban
[2015-12-25 16:58:41] zanza : Merry Christmas all
[2015-12-25 16:58:43] Yepachuchu : what's banworthy about that?
[2015-12-25 16:58:55] zanza : sleger: rapidtrades TschavaTschigger
[2015-12-25 16:58:59] sleger : zanza: no, it is not forbidden, although it is pretty weird it is possible to do that
[2015-12-25 17:05:47] TschavaTschigger : of course this is banworthy, since this can 100% be considered abuse
[2015-12-25 17:06:02] Yepachuchu : placing orders is abuse?
[2015-12-25 17:06:26] Yepachuchu : it doesn't change the price or statistics in any way, all it does is take up first place for limit order at that price
[2015-12-25 17:06:50] TschavaTschigger : placing 100 orders with the purpose of breaking the orderbook is abuse
[2015-12-25 17:07:02] laisee : just use grouping on display. (non)problem solved.
[2015-12-25 17:07:06] Yepachuchu : how is it with the purpose of breaking the orerbook?
[2015-12-25 17:07:13] Yepachuchu : it doesn't break anything
[2015-12-25 17:07:27] laisee : buy a bigger monitor ;-)
[2015-12-25 17:07:50] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Wally: can you please ban the clown that is intentionally exploiting the orderbook25 websocket implementation? it's not possible to trade properly.
[2015-12-25 17:07:51] Yepachuchu : calling for banning of customers with good money that you could instead be trying to scalp by trading better is just dumb
[2015-12-25 17:08:21] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Wally: I don't care if its rapidtrades, sledger or President Obama. He is clearly abusing the sys
[2015-12-25 17:08:45] TschavaTschigger : system*
[2015-12-25 17:09:10] sleger : laisee: you're wrong, grouping doesnt work in that case
[2015-12-25 17:09:48] sleger : TschavaTschigger: there is no user "sledger" as far as I know
[2015-12-25 17:10:01] BitMEX_Wally : I'm working on building an orderBook delta feed, so you'll see all levels with minimal data
[2015-12-25 17:10:07] sleger : and it's annoying, but I cant see why that would be an abuse
[2015-12-25 17:11:14] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Wally: thanks. until that is done, can you temporarily block the user that is trying to ruin the trade experience for the others?
[2015-12-25 17:11:24] laisee : sleger: > you spelled your name wrong when you signed up, then?
[2015-12-25 17:11:52] Yepachuchu : how about someone calls to temporarily block you until you stop trying to dictate the rules of this place like you own it?
[2015-12-25 17:11:58] sleger : laisee: that comment wasnt for you, the one before where you were wrong yes, but you purposedly ignored that one
[2015-12-25 17:12:31] sleger : TschavaTschigger: blocking or banning someone who doesnt violate any rule would be a terrible mistake
[2015-12-25 17:12:51] Yepachuchu : yep, nobody would do business here then
[2015-12-25 17:13:03] laisee : sleger: > why wouldn't grouping visually solve the problem?
[2015-12-25 17:13:15] BitMEX_Wally : Until I have implemented the full level order book deltas, I will consider lots of little levels that abuse the 25 limit to be a form of abuse
[2015-12-25 17:13:33] sleger : why would it be forbidden to sell 10 lots between 454 and 455 by steps of 0.01 unless selling 1000 at 454.5 not ok
[2015-12-25 17:13:44] Yepachuchu : ^
[2015-12-25 17:13:46] sleger : laisee: because the website only can see the first 25 orders
[2015-12-25 17:13:55] Yepachuchu : so buy them
[2015-12-25 17:14:19] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Wally: sounds good. just do something about it because right now, the instrument is not tradeable properly and looks broken
[2015-12-25 17:14:35] TschavaTschigger : not good marketing for new investors either
[2015-12-25 17:15:04] BitMEX_Wally : It's Christmas Day and I would rather be with my family
[2015-12-25 17:15:05] sleger : TschavaTschigger: looks fine enough after grouping.
[2015-12-25 17:15:32] laisee : grouping should being more levels into the picture, right?
[2015-12-25 17:15:43] sleger : laisee: no grouping groups the first 25 levels
[2015-12-25 17:16:22] sleger : if the first 25 levels are 1s then the whole liquidity appears as 25 for website users. But that is not the case now on any contract
[2015-12-25 17:16:23] laisee : then the UI should not be based on fixed number of levels, it should also consider if grouping is applied.
[2015-12-25 17:16:39] sleger : laisee: then read Wally's comment that is exactly what he explained he was doing
[2015-12-25 17:17:07] sleger : I hope saying everything twice is enough...
[2015-12-25 17:17:09] BitMEX_Wally : In the spirit of Christmas please do not post lots of little orders until I have a chance to implement full levels :)
[2015-12-25 17:17:12] laisee : sleger: > no need to read anything in detail as I walays have helpful folks to correct me. thx.
[2015-12-25 17:17:28] laisee : ;-)
[2015-12-25 17:18:01] sleger : Changing step size to 0.1 would just be so much better and make so much more sense
[2015-12-25 17:18:28] laisee : how wulkd rapidtrades find his orders?
[2015-12-25 17:19:37] sleger : he would look for the 2001, 4001, 5001 etc...
[2015-12-25 17:20:18] laisee : or Bitmex could offer a special micro-orderbook
[2015-12-25 17:22:35] sleger : or simply could limit users to less than 5 open orders less than 100 lots
[2015-12-25 17:25:22] laisee : maybe. does anyone really use the orderbook for 1st 25 levels to do meaningful trading? Would have thought anyone serious would drag the data into their own UI code and display something like Bitfinex.
[2015-12-25 17:26:04] zanza : so i have to design my own UI if I want to trade here Kappa
[2015-12-25 17:26:24] SnackyCoins : imo the only useful data you can get from an orderbook is not found in bitmex's orderbooks yet
[2015-12-25 17:27:11] SnackyCoins : or ever actually.. no spot market
[2015-12-25 17:27:12] laisee : no. but you have to admit the UI offers less than professional traders usually like to see. Not saying it's wrong for generic audience with mixed levels of skills, experience ofc.
[2015-12-25 17:27:43] SnackyCoins : hell.. there's two UI's here
[2015-12-25 17:28:37] zanza : SnackyCoins: since Fed raise interest rate, are you worried about liquidity drained from SnP500 ?
[2015-12-25 17:28:49] zanza : I was thinking it would dip to 1800's
[2015-12-25 17:28:58] SnackyCoins : worried? i'd be excited about it
[2015-12-25 17:29:31] SnackyCoins : oh you talking about the repos from the banks
[2015-12-25 17:29:40] SnackyCoins : priced in already imo
[2015-12-25 17:30:02] SnackyCoins : its already happened, and they already know how much more is going to happen
[2015-12-25 17:30:02] laisee : how about that new reverse repo facility? is that working already?
[2015-12-25 17:30:02] zanza : well, your price target was 2300 right? so I guess you priced i in
[2015-12-25 17:30:22] SnackyCoins : i don't have a target for S&P
[2015-12-25 17:30:27] zanza : k
[2015-12-25 17:32:15] SnackyCoins : i just expect trend continuation in S&P, so buying unleveraged CFD
[2015-12-25 17:33:06] SnackyCoins : not much though... oil is the better setup
[2015-12-25 17:44:57] zanza : i agree on oil
[2015-12-25 18:05:48] chromaticcr : 10's whale spotted on XBT7D
[2015-12-25 18:25:29] rapidtrades : f useless shitcoin...just stays flat until a big order needs to get executed,,,,then it shoots up or down. It's like trading the news but instead of knowing the time of the news now it can happen anytime
[2015-12-25 18:39:20] sleger : someone discovering what a market means, bid offer, supply demand ...
[2015-12-25 18:40:15] rapidtrades : hey man if u think this is how markets move I invite u to join us in the big leagues, try forex or futures
[2015-12-25 18:40:37] rapidtrades : u talk a big game but u ppl wouldn't stand 1 min in actual market that doesn't move straight up
[2015-12-25 18:41:07] laisee : rapidtrades: > what's a big trade in forex mkt?
[2015-12-25 18:44:08] rapidtrades : well it certainly isn't 1 btc =400 dollars I can tell u that...u can't get anything filled on okc unless u pay >$1 spread today....high manipulation going on today, only bots trading
[2015-12-25 18:44:43] rapidtrades : oh look smone wants to sell 1 btc...quick let's crash the price...idiots I don't need to sell that bad
[2015-12-25 18:44:49] zanza : isn't OKC the highest volume exchange?
[2015-12-25 18:45:05] zanza : Chinese dont celebrate Christmas?
[2015-12-25 18:45:20] laisee : rapidtrades: > use iceberg to break up those big 1 BTC orders.
[2015-12-25 18:47:37] rapidtrades : laisee: this was a part of a larger order
[2015-12-25 18:47:52] rapidtrades : point is, even 1 btc moves the market today
[2015-12-25 18:49:37] zanza : rapidtrades: is finex different?
[2015-12-25 18:50:12] rapidtrades : zanza: haven't tried today cos prices are bit lower plus u have fees
[2015-12-25 18:53:18] zanza : kk
[2015-12-25 18:53:38] zanza : do you have any opinions on SnP500 or Oil rapidtrades
[2015-12-25 18:54:12] zanza : I take it this page is not current? https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2015-12-25 18:54:22] Yepachuchu : i'm curious to hear oil predictions
[2015-12-25 18:54:36] zanza : Snacky has a $70 price target
[2015-12-25 18:54:57] rapidtrades : zanza: don't trade oil but sub-$30 seems more likely
[2015-12-25 19:02:39] rapidtrades : there's still ongoing glut plus tons of oil in storage...can't see it recovering for the next few years
[2015-12-25 19:34:17] zanza : oh, cool new XBU has circuit breaker (never noticed it )
[2015-12-25 19:35:02] arbitrage001 : hello
[2015-12-25 19:35:12] arbitrage001 : how long does the deposit take?
[2015-12-25 19:42:43] sleger : rapidtrades: As a matter of fact, I do trade forex (a lot), some equity cash and options
[2015-12-25 19:43:18] sleger : Let me guess, you still trade on some basic retail broker ?
[2015-12-25 19:49:36] sleger : arbitrage001: 1 conf
[2015-12-25 19:49:53] arbitrage001 : thank, sleger
[2015-12-25 19:53:22] rapidtrades : sleger: let me guess you're unable to converse without snarky passive-aggressive ''questions?''?
[2015-12-25 19:53:48] sleger : rapidtrades: alright: where do you trade forex ?
[2015-12-25 19:54:06] rapidtrades : sleger: why do you ask?
[2015-12-25 19:54:33] sleger : rapidtrades: why wont you answer such a simple question?
[2015-12-25 19:54:55] Yepachuchu : i trade on simpllfx
[2015-12-25 19:54:57] Yepachuchu : https://simplefx.com/?sfx-r=9ffc4d09-4fb8-4556-b5a7-7ae33f87b9fa
[2015-12-25 19:55:07] sleger : "rapidtrades: hey man if u think this is how markets move I invite u to join us in the big leagues, try forex or futures"
[2015-12-25 19:55:13] sleger : this is why I ask btw
[2015-12-25 19:55:51] sleger : Yepachuchu: the link you were looking for is https://simplefx.com without any referral link
[2015-12-25 19:56:04] Yepachuchu : because referral links are so horrible
[2015-12-25 19:56:09] Yepachuchu : and no, it wasn't what i was looking fo
[2015-12-25 19:56:11] Yepachuchu : but thank yo
[2015-12-25 19:59:49] arbitrage001 : each XBT contract represent how much?
[2015-12-25 20:00:03] arbitrage001 : to short 1 btc, how many contract do i short?
[2015-12-25 20:00:07] zanza : Each contract is worth 1000 Satoshis per $1 price, currently 0.0045444 XBT.
[2015-12-25 20:00:59] arbitrage001 : to short 1 btc, how does the math work?
[2015-12-25 20:01:06] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: its 220
[2015-12-25 20:01:14] rapidtrades : on XBT
[2015-12-25 20:01:30] sleger : rapidtrades: funny how you stop answering...
[2015-12-25 20:01:47] rapidtrades : but it changes over time, so use he calculator, shorts get r*ped quick if we rally
[2015-12-25 20:02:02] arbitrage001 : ust trying to hedge
[2015-12-25 20:02:15] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: for hedging use XBU
[2015-12-25 20:02:26] rapidtrades : that's around 4-5 contarts
[2015-12-25 20:02:35] arbitrage001 : i need to hedge 1 btc on march contract
[2015-12-25 20:02:52] arbitrage001 : 14 btc i mean
[2015-12-25 20:02:58] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: are u short on march?
[2015-12-25 20:03:07] arbitrage001 : trying to, yes
[2015-12-25 20:04:11] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: well then you're prolly better off using weekly to long cos you'll get that uneven payout BUT there is major risk of clawback so test with small amounts first
[2015-12-25 20:05:06] rapidtrades : if u try to hedge with XBU you'll get $$$ if we go up but lose BTC...it will have to be adjusted constantly
[2015-12-25 20:05:46] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: so yeah try with small sums first and see how it holds up over few months or so
[2015-12-25 20:05:47] sleger : arbitrage001: if you think that what he is writing doesnt make any sense, that's normal
[2015-12-25 20:06:03] arbitrage001 : the guide here doesnt make sense also
[2015-12-25 20:06:22] sleger : actually the guide is correct and very good unlike what he said
[2015-12-25 20:06:37] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: basically if u go short that contract there is no fool-proof way to hedge
[2015-12-25 20:08:29] rapidtrades : because the XBT contracts pay out the same amount of BTC whether we go up or down...so shorts need to be managed carefully or you'll get a runaway exponential loss @arbitrage001
[2015-12-25 20:11:02] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: Can we get a quanto contract with no clawback risk? possibly with lower leverage if needed to manage ur risk. Who's with me?
[2015-12-25 20:14:05] 11==14 : me ! But I am your sock-puppet after all...
[2015-12-25 20:14:12] j8 : quadratic loss in fact. not exponential
[2015-12-25 20:16:36] sleger : -1 point for rapidtrades, his score is at -126 now
[2015-12-25 20:19:32] rapidtrades : anyone who has the time to create and manage 5 sockpuppet accounts is prolly a bad trader
[2015-12-25 20:20:22] sleger : some people are quick thinkers... So where do you trade your forex ?
[2015-12-25 20:20:44] rapidtrades : says a lot about ur personality & lack of private life to do that on Christmas eve
[2015-12-25 20:20:52] sleger : you invited me to join you in the big leagues of forex traders
[2015-12-25 20:21:44] sleger : rapidtrades: christmas eve means dec 24th LOL, how many times can someone be so wrong, you are one of a kind
[2015-12-25 20:25:02] sleger : rapidtrades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_Eve please do learn something today
[2015-12-25 20:31:47] habibi : hello christmas traders!
[2015-12-25 20:31:59] habibi : i see a hypocrite here, am i right?
[2015-12-25 20:33:23] zanza : habibi: hello
[2015-12-25 20:33:40] habibi : hey hey hello
[2015-12-25 20:34:02] zanza : anyone trading the new XBU yet?
[2015-12-25 20:34:15] zanza : making that .1% dollar
[2015-12-25 20:35:23] rapidtrades : zanza: no point atm, 1 cent spread
[2015-12-25 20:35:57] zanza : the profit area is 45 cents for .1% @ 450
[2015-12-25 20:36:23] zanza : + or - I think, just setting up my spreadsheet now
[2015-12-25 20:36:39] rapidtrades : zanza: well put up a bid and wait until u get filled I guess
[2015-12-25 20:36:50] rapidtrades : 26 contacts before u
[2015-12-25 20:37:19] zanza : im focusing on Forex atm, but may jump in
[2015-12-25 20:37:29] rapidtrades : if we move 50 cents you'll be left holding the bag so not sure how would u make it work
[2015-12-25 20:37:51] rapidtrades : maybe if you're betting on this range continuing
[2015-12-25 20:37:57] zanza : the bot traders can make money though in a tight spread
[2015-12-25 20:39:18] rapidtrades : yeah it's tempting rebate but that's prolly why the spread is 0.01 atm
[2015-12-25 20:58:21] darchray : is the 6000 contract the bot?
[2015-12-25 20:59:20] darchray : still at 0.0062 withhelf profit :(
[2015-12-25 21:21:20] cryptodude : Hey Bitmex :) My first time to join your IRC channel. Happy holidays everyone!
[2015-12-25 21:21:42] cryptodude : Any bitmex admins here?
[2015-12-25 21:34:33] TschavaTschigger : yeah, me. what's up?
[2015-12-25 21:35:03] TschavaTschigger : cryptodude: how can I help you?
[2015-12-25 21:36:47] cryptodude : Oh, awesome. I'll start a private thread with you to discuss something :)
[2015-12-25 21:37:10] TschavaTschigger : cryptodude: meh, I'm not really working here. just wanted to help out
[2015-12-25 21:37:30] cryptodude : oh, ok
[2015-12-25 21:37:31] TschavaTschigger : better wait for 'real' admins for private account discussions
[2015-12-25 21:38:09] cryptodude : Ah, ok
[2015-12-25 21:38:16] TschavaTschigger : usually there is always someone online but I think today they are enjoying Christmas with their families
[2015-12-25 21:38:38] cryptodude : Yeah, that makes sense.
[2015-12-25 21:40:03] cryptodude : I was noticing the premiums on June16 contracts, and I'd like to sell $100k of futures to hedge another open position that I have. But I wanted to chat with an admin first, to see if we could do an OTC trade.
[2015-12-25 21:48:37] habibi : nope
[2015-12-25 21:48:47] habibi : OTC here starts from 1.5 milion orders
[2015-12-25 21:48:50] habibi : sorry :(
[2015-12-25 21:56:43] cryptodude : Hi habibi, do you work at Bitmex?
[2015-12-25 21:56:52] cryptodude : 1.5m orders? You mean 1.5m contracts? I'm only looking to sell around $100,000 in futures.
[2015-12-25 21:56:58] zanza : define "work
[2015-12-25 21:57:07] Yepachuchu : bitmex employees will have bitmex in the name
[2015-12-25 21:57:17] Yepachuchu : like Bitmex_Wally or whatever his name was
[2015-12-25 21:57:18] BitMEX_Wally : cryptodude: We got your email and Arthur our CEO will respond soon
[2015-12-25 21:57:22] Yepachuchu : bam!
[2015-12-25 21:57:32] Yepachuchu : i did get it right
[2015-12-25 21:57:44] cryptodude : Awesome, thank you @BitMEX_Wally
[2015-12-25 21:59:35] zanza : the bitcoin is halving in June, so price will be 2x today so $900
[2015-12-25 21:59:45] zanza : so June future is a bad deal
[2015-12-25 22:00:39] Yepachuchu : double at halving is a big assumption
[2015-12-25 22:00:57] zanza : habibi told me it will happen
[2015-12-25 22:01:12] Yepachuchu : well, if you habeeb it
[2015-12-25 22:02:09] rapidtrades : zanza: who's habibi?
[2015-12-25 22:02:27] zanza : a very experienced professional bit-coin trader
[2015-12-25 22:03:09] Yepachuchu : im sure
[2015-12-25 22:03:10] habibi : zanza: did i?
[2015-12-25 22:03:13] SnackyCoins : i dont beliebe it
[2015-12-25 22:03:21] Yepachuchu : ^
[2015-12-25 22:03:45] lockhedge : it says "Each contract is worth $100000 of Bitcoin." on my XBU7D, you can be glad that i'm not using satoshi for currency display ;)
[2015-12-25 22:03:56] zanza : $100,000 in futures is 9 BTC
[2015-12-25 22:04:05] lockhedge : guaranteed settlement by BitMEX on XBU7D, right?
[2015-12-25 22:05:34] zanza : lockhedge: is that a display bug ?
[2015-12-25 22:06:10] lockhedge : zanza: yes it's just a bug in the js
[2015-12-25 22:06:43] j8 : yep, good find.
[2015-12-25 22:12:59] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: Merry Christmas! Sorry to hear that you are stuck here instead of enjoying Christmas with your family :-(
[2015-12-25 22:13:58] micmix : Merry Christmas guys @j8 @lockhedge @zanza @SnackyCoins @habibi @rapidtrades @TschavaTschigger @sleger
[2015-12-25 22:15:49] BitMEX_Wally : zanza: What browser are you on?
[2015-12-25 22:15:51] BitMEX_Wally : I see `XBU7D is a XBT/USD inverse futures contract settling every Friday on the .XBT2H Index. Each contract is worth $100 of Bitcoin.`
[2015-12-25 22:16:11] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: Merry Christmas to you. I am working from home so I'm with my family :)
[2015-12-25 22:16:24] lockhedge : micmix: merry christmas
[2015-12-25 22:17:10] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: the bug is only there when you change "Currency Display" from XBT to mXBT or smaller
[2015-12-25 22:18:09] BitMEX_Wally : ok
[2015-12-25 22:21:18] micmix : Enjoy your holidays and don't work too much! I just came in to say hi, see you all later. I have lots of leftovers from Christmas dinner, that rabbit was super yummy! Will keep me busy for a while :-)
[2015-12-25 22:21:55] Yepachuchu : http://imgur.com/WyA35DA
[2015-12-25 22:22:09] Yepachuchu : merry christmas with laughs
[2015-12-25 22:36:04] rapidtrades : micmix: tnx man, you too :)
[2015-12-25 23:01:41] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT7D: Buy 299 @ 459.37
[2015-12-25 23:09:05] TschavaTschigger : micmix: thank you :)
[2015-12-26 00:50:43] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 1000 @ 457.34
[2015-12-26 00:59:16] TschavaTschigger : nice volume spike.. thanks santa
[2015-12-26 01:01:16] uiop : <BitMEX_Chat> (sleger): Changing step size to 0.1 would just be so much better and make so much more sense
[2015-12-26 01:01:26] uiop : i second that
[2015-12-26 01:01:30] uiop : that would be sweet
[2015-12-26 01:02:25] uiop : it seems like could find the perfect optimum between spread size and all top 10 levels of both book sides being populated like >70% of the time
[2015-12-26 01:02:55] uiop : 0.025? 0.05? 0.1? 0.2? 0.25
[2015-12-26 01:03:37] uiop : *0.25?
[2015-12-26 01:03:40] TschavaTschigger : I don't share that opinion. I don't want to lose out on fineness and I want to buy/sell at the same prices as I buy/sell spot
[2015-12-26 01:04:42] TschavaTschigger : sledger is just mad because he keeps getting undercut by some small-size bots
[2015-12-26 01:05:12] TschavaTschigger : I don't like that either, but it's not a big issue.
[2015-12-26 01:12:09] mwalshe99 : does anyone know how to find out the current exchange weightings?
[2015-12-26 01:12:30] TschavaTschigger : https://tradeblock.com/markets/index/
[2015-12-26 01:12:53] mwalshe99 : i thought so
[2015-12-26 01:13:04] mwalshe99 : but it seemd to just absorb finex's recent jump
[2015-12-26 01:13:48] mwalshe99 : and its currently weighted at over 60 percent
[2015-12-26 02:16:05] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 300 @ 455.21
[2015-12-26 02:23:05] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1904 @ 454.10
[2015-12-26 02:23:25] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1500 @ 452.91
[2015-12-26 02:23:25] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1000 @ 452.81
[2015-12-26 03:43:43] dr.rock : come on santa, cough it up and buy you cheap bastard
[2015-12-26 03:49:07] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1900 @ 451.09
[2015-12-26 03:49:27] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 386 @ 449.82
[2015-12-26 03:49:47] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 20 @ 448.59
[2015-12-26 03:51:48] zanza : jesus
[2015-12-26 03:52:33] zanza : this is Bitstamp/Finex dump
[2015-12-26 03:52:36] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: Crazy stuff
[2015-12-26 03:53:09] habibi : nope
[2015-12-26 03:53:11] habibi : this is china
[2015-12-26 03:53:14] zanza : based on volume
[2015-12-26 03:53:19] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: That's what I thought too
[2015-12-26 03:54:59] rapidtrades : bitcoin deaded
[2015-12-26 03:56:26] rapidtrades : On the day after Christmas the Loooord gave to meeee, a dump like I haven't seen!
[2015-12-26 03:56:44] zanza : rapidtrades: RIP in peace Bit=coin
[2015-12-26 03:58:03] laisee : Santa taking back all of 2015 presents ...
[2015-12-26 03:58:07] dr.rock : interesting the bid just jumped sky high on the june
[2015-12-26 03:58:16] dr.rock : good luck making money on it
[2015-12-26 03:58:50] laisee : gotta wait for those long-dated ones to see money.
[2015-12-26 03:59:26] dr.rock : haha..good luck with that
[2015-12-26 04:01:19] rapidtrades : haha okay
[2015-12-26 04:15:07] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 125 @ 446.26
[2015-12-26 04:18:37] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 8000 @ 448.26
[2015-12-26 04:19:17] darchray : damn I think this will stop at 439$ - 440$?
[2015-12-26 04:19:39] Swedishnut : 433 my guess
[2015-12-26 04:20:46] darchray : looks like its completing head and shoulders pattern?
[2015-12-26 04:21:36] darchray : now its on its 2nd confirmation _< if they pass the highest low , I think, it will drop really2x big
[2015-12-26 04:24:22] 24hourz : let's see if we find some support at 50%
[2015-12-26 04:25:10] darchray : my stupid 456$ contract long is killingme >_<
[2015-12-26 04:34:40] zanza : keep on HODL'ing till moon
[2015-12-26 04:35:14] mwalshe99 : zanza: lol
[2015-12-26 04:37:05] darchray : bloody bears >_<
[2015-12-26 04:37:29] rapidtrades : why are btc loans on okc always >0.1%
[2015-12-26 04:37:38] rapidtrades : they also don't move with the market like on finex
[2015-12-26 04:37:59] j8 : rapidtrades: i think okc brokers them
[2015-12-26 04:38:07] j8 : not 100% sure though.
[2015-12-26 04:38:46] rapidtrades : j8: yeah that would make sense
[2015-12-26 04:39:08] rapidtrades : I meant usd loans...but the btc is even weirder with a huge spread
[2015-12-26 04:39:26] laisee : thats where they make their money
[2015-12-26 04:40:20] 24hourz : spread is a bit larger tonight than other nights. It might just be me though
[2015-12-26 04:41:03] lockhedge : is USD/CNY just going down and takes XBT down or mainly XBT or both?
[2015-12-26 04:41:59] lockhedge : CNY premium down to 1.26% from 2.8% a few our ago.
[2015-12-26 04:48:33] zanza : USD CNY is closed
[2015-12-26 05:17:14] rapidtrades : okc usd at $438
[2015-12-26 05:21:48] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 2829 @ 441.78
[2015-12-26 05:22:08] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 3 @ 443.78
[2015-12-26 05:22:08] REKT : Big whale detected
[2015-12-26 05:34:09] REKT : Liquidated long on XBTM16: Sell 145 @ 615.95
[2015-12-26 05:36:13] mwalshe99 : quarterlies is gonna freefall soon
[2015-12-26 05:36:26] rapidtrades : hope so :)
[2015-12-26 05:36:49] mwalshe99 : id we break 2800 this is gonna get biblical
[2015-12-26 05:37:04] mwalshe99 : start of a new downturn
[2015-12-26 05:43:48] gouda : bounce
[2015-12-26 05:45:49] j8 : triangle the 440's for another week or two
[2015-12-26 05:48:22] laisee : bitcoin is dead, almost
[2015-12-26 06:01:50] rapidtrades : I wanna thank the ''buy the dip'' ers...for no clawback this time around
[2015-12-26 06:03:44] habibi : hopefully ur liquidated short wont make clawback <3
[2015-12-26 06:44:40] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 98 @ 438.94
[2015-12-26 08:27:22] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 290 @ 439.24
[2015-12-26 08:40:02] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 325 @ 438.23
[2015-12-26 08:41:12] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 63 @ 436.01
[2015-12-26 08:45:02] ethexio : goodnight bitcoin
[2015-12-26 08:46:07] Swedishnut : sleep well good sir
[2015-12-26 08:50:40] ethexio : I'm awake, btc going underground to hibernate
[2015-12-26 08:51:43] gouda : we going for 400 or what?
[2015-12-26 08:53:59] ethexio : 135 true price
[2015-12-26 08:55:47] TschavaTschigger : am i the only one having problems canceling orders?
[2015-12-26 08:57:44] Swedishnut : 433 at least as I said
[2015-12-26 08:57:57] habibi : 412
[2015-12-26 09:02:14] rapidtrades : we are above china gentlemen, we did it!
[2015-12-26 09:02:42] gouda : will probably tag 400
[2015-12-26 09:05:38] rapidtrades : u think westerns are lagging due to christmas? or just chinese panicking?
[2015-12-26 09:06:28] sleger : yes european servers very busy on xmas, well known stuff... Did you find that in a chinese cookie ?
[2015-12-26 09:06:32] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 200 @ 434.32
[2015-12-26 09:23:03] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 10 @ 435.03
[2015-12-26 09:23:03] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 14000 @ 435.07
[2015-12-26 09:23:03] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 500 @ 434.05
[2015-12-26 09:23:03] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 15 @ 433.90
[2015-12-26 09:23:13] REKT : Liquidated long on XBTM16: Sell 450 @ 602.71
[2015-12-26 09:23:13] REKT : Abandon the ship
[2015-12-26 09:25:18] gouda : stop longing and enjoy the ride 400 coming
[2015-12-26 09:30:01] stevelim : Until the new year, new buyers can't deposit new fiat to buy BTC because of bank holiday. we might see the sharp drop.
[2015-12-26 09:30:52] stevelim : past 2 years, we always had sharp drop towards the year end.
[2015-12-26 09:32:43] gouda : yup
[2015-12-26 09:33:10] rapidtrades : not yup
[2015-12-26 09:33:11] gouda : what are all the all black in the recent trades?
[2015-12-26 09:33:24] rapidtrades : I only went back 1 year to see he's full of shit
[2015-12-26 09:33:40] rapidtrades : last year the sharp drop started on jan 3
[2015-12-26 09:33:40] gouda : lol
[2015-12-26 09:33:49] gouda : well we usualy get a xmas dump and new years pump
[2015-12-26 09:34:18] rapidtrades : no...last year we saw $20 fall around xmas followed by nothing until drop on jan 3
[2015-12-26 09:35:16] stevelim : started Dec 24 actually
[2015-12-26 09:35:28] rapidtrades : AROUND XMAS
[2015-12-26 09:35:37] gouda : close enough :D
[2015-12-26 09:36:09] rapidtrades : but last year we weren't at the top of a 100% rally so not rly apples to apples
[2015-12-26 09:36:58] gouda : not sure if a ponzi pump = solid rally
[2015-12-26 09:37:00] gouda : :D
[2015-12-26 09:37:32] rapidtrades : agree, I never trusted this rally, only longed with 1/2 my usual size
[2015-12-26 09:37:51] stevelim : true that, anyway, I am just saing that even if I want to buy cheap coin, I can't probably buy them until Early Jan because of bank holidays.
[2015-12-26 09:37:58] rapidtrades : still would've been better if I used full size cos it went further then I expected
[2015-12-26 09:38:18] gouda : it did that f0m0 was strong
[2015-12-26 09:38:22] gouda : poor peeps who bought that top
[2015-12-26 09:38:54] rapidtrades : if u want cheap coins, okc at $423
[2015-12-26 09:39:03] gouda : wow thats cheap
[2015-12-26 09:39:14] rapidtrades : $422 now lol
[2015-12-26 09:39:25] rapidtrades : IT GETS CHEAPER EVERY SECOND
[2015-12-26 09:40:08] rapidtrades : gouda: do u know we're actually above china now? they're at $428
[2015-12-26 09:41:36] gouda : yea
[2015-12-26 09:41:54] gouda : :D
[2015-12-26 09:43:13] gouda : hmm settlement predictions ?
[2015-12-26 09:44:17] mwalshe99 : quartiles in free fall mode
[2015-12-26 09:45:22] gouda : come on i want to buy cheap btc around 380 :D
[2015-12-26 09:50:57] rapidtrades : 3m and 6m haven't fully priced in this decline imo
[2015-12-26 09:51:27] habibi : yea, 5 seconds candles are still bearish as well
[2015-12-26 09:51:27] habibi : ...
[2015-12-26 09:51:56] mwalshe99 : rapidtrades: holy shit
[2015-12-26 09:52:18] mwalshe99 : rapidtrades: 6m still over 600 and 3m still over 500 O.O
[2015-12-26 09:52:58] rapidtrades : yeah if this is the move that kills the uptrend then we should be way lower
[2015-12-26 09:53:43] mwalshe99 : rapidtrades: yea dude this is uptrend over
[2015-12-26 09:53:52] mwalshe99 : rapidtrades: dont' think anyone thinks this isn't the end
[2015-12-26 09:54:02] mwalshe99 : rapidtrades: tradingview is going mental
[2015-12-26 09:54:13] gouda : yea we should get another leg down
[2015-12-26 09:54:15] rapidtrades : idk man, they've bought every dip so far lol
[2015-12-26 09:54:46] rapidtrades : not betting on a bounce but wouldn't be surprised if get one
[2015-12-26 09:55:04] mwalshe99 : rapidtrades: bounce @ 420
[2015-12-26 09:55:08] mwalshe99 : maybe 400
[2015-12-26 09:55:32] mwalshe99 : maybe less :/
[2015-12-26 09:55:49] sleger : rapidtrades: you make fun of people "AROUND CHRISTMAS" but until yesterday you thought christmas eve was december 25th right...
[2015-12-26 09:56:51] rapidtrades : can't wait for that chat ignore function...some ppl are f obsessed here
[2015-12-26 09:57:12] sleger : and some are f ignorant
[2015-12-26 09:57:31] sleger : I'd rather be the first than the second
[2015-12-26 09:57:44] mwalshe99 : here we go again...
[2015-12-26 09:58:14] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 2502 @ 430.13
[2015-12-26 09:59:04] REKT : Liquidated long on XBTH16: Sell 1500 @ 503.01
[2015-12-26 09:59:44] ayy lmao : lol
[2015-12-26 10:01:12] habibi : hm
[2015-12-26 10:01:24] habibi : couldnt close short coz no enought margin required
[2015-12-26 10:01:27] mwalshe99 : quarterlies nearly breaking 500
[2015-12-26 10:08:38] rapidtrades : lot of salty ppl here tonight...prolly longed 400-500 BTC and are now eating porridge and other poor man's foods
[2015-12-26 10:10:46] sleger : nope was long only ~350btc
[2015-12-26 10:11:17] sleger : only lost ~7k$
[2015-12-26 10:11:46] habibi : rapidtrades: how much dollars u made today ! :)?
[2015-12-26 10:11:51] habibi : more than 10?
[2015-12-26 10:12:08] sleger : which is barely relevant for what I eat or dont... We probably do not live on the same $ scale
[2015-12-26 10:13:08] habibi : mr $ich here! :)?
[2015-12-26 10:13:35] rapidtrades : I'm sleger, I long at the bottom and close at the top!
[2015-12-26 10:13:58] rapidtrades : yeah right...I find it hard to believe smone so unstable can be good at making money by trading
[2015-12-26 10:14:19] habibi : and who tells that
[2015-12-26 10:14:20] habibi : LoL
[2015-12-26 10:14:30] habibi : rapid! u the most unstable here
[2015-12-26 10:14:49] sleger : this guy cant read... I just said I was long... Anyways, nothing surprises me anymore coming from you
[2015-12-26 10:15:21] habibi : sleger: shhh... he thinks he makes money on long during all this dump
[2015-12-26 10:16:33] sleger : I think he is only trying to be long spot short fut and get the carry, but since he cant get it one day he'll wake up to a nice surprise
[2015-12-26 10:16:36] rapidtrades : dude u created 5 sockpuppet accounts to impersonate me ON CHRISTMAS EVE...(btw yes it was the 24th when u did it)
[2015-12-26 10:17:06] sleger : rapidtrades: glad you learned christmas eve is the 24th congrats !!
[2015-12-26 10:17:11] rapidtrades : u have major issues that u need to look into but that's for professional not me
[2015-12-26 10:17:30] sleger : And no I did not, not sure who told you that, but many people make fun of you around here, I am not the only one
[2015-12-26 10:17:33] habibi : rapidtrades: u still were here that time lel
[2015-12-26 10:17:49] habibi : i think sleger was taking care about his position which is normal at his ammounts
[2015-12-26 10:18:26] sleger : It was 25th late in the evening, family was sleeping etc... not sure why that's relevant anyways
[2015-12-26 10:19:39] sleger : rapidtrades: maybe you still want to try me on forex trading, or equity options ?
[2015-12-26 10:20:14] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 100 @ 431.14
[2015-12-26 10:20:53] uiop : i love REKT's commentary
[2015-12-26 10:22:05] rapidtrades : noone's mentioning China today huh
[2015-12-26 10:22:13] rapidtrades : looks up price
[2015-12-26 10:22:20] rapidtrades : $423 huh that's why
[2015-12-26 10:26:34] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 305 @ 427.57
[2015-12-26 10:33:14] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 716 @ 426.61
[2015-12-26 10:37:04] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 450 @ 425.20
[2015-12-26 10:45:04] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 200 @ 424.42
[2015-12-26 10:45:24] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 2986 @ 423.14
[2015-12-26 10:45:24] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 45 @ 423.59
[2015-12-26 10:45:24] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 12497 @ 422.84
[2015-12-26 10:45:24] REKT : HODL HODL HODL
[2015-12-26 10:45:44] gouda : down we go
[2015-12-26 10:46:07] laisee : fundamentals are starting to look good
[2015-12-26 10:46:15] rapidtrades : still no clawback anywhere...it's a little Christmas miracle!
[2015-12-26 10:46:29] gouda : yup i like it not even .01
[2015-12-26 10:46:42] habibi : rapidstupid: coz we dont have 40 dollar instant move
[2015-12-26 10:46:46] habibi : in one 15 minute candle
[2015-12-26 10:46:49] gouda : slow and steady
[2015-12-26 10:47:12] laisee : grinding out the weak hands slowly one by one .,..
[2015-12-26 10:47:14] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1893 @ 420.98
[2015-12-26 10:47:34] REKT : Liquidated long on XBTH16: Sell 186 @ 494.23
[2015-12-26 10:48:27] macios15 : look at the volume
[2015-12-26 10:48:44] REKT : Liquidated long on XBTH16: Sell 22000 @ 491.85 <b>MEGA-REKT</b>
[2015-12-26 10:48:45] REKT : Liquidated long on XBTM16: Sell 100 @ 586.13
[2015-12-26 10:48:54] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 200 @ 419.25
[2015-12-26 10:50:04] REKT : Liquidated long on XBTM16: Sell 1000 @ 582.97
[2015-12-26 10:52:43] macios15 : more faling knifes
[2015-12-26 10:53:35] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 3500 @ 416.43
[2015-12-26 10:53:35] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 9080 @ 414.82
[2015-12-26 10:53:45] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 2000 @ 416.32
[2015-12-26 10:54:05] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1000 @ 413.24
[2015-12-26 10:57:07] laisee : not enough hands to catch all these knives
[2015-12-26 10:58:51] mwalshe99 : the liquidations are beautiful
[2015-12-26 10:59:04] mwalshe99 : think there is allot to say that this is the bottom for now
[2015-12-26 10:59:13] mwalshe99 : allot of people thoight 2620-2650
[2015-12-26 10:59:20] mwalshe99 : me personally 2590
[2015-12-26 11:03:51] macios15 : nice negativ