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[2015-12-21 13:51:32] j8 : either that or it's okc using offshore rate
[2015-12-21 14:47:07] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 2 @ 440.91
[2015-12-21 14:47:07] REKT : Big whale detected
[2015-12-21 14:47:57] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 29912 @ 439.58 <b>MEGA-REKT</b>
[2015-12-21 14:49:07] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 351 @ 438.38
[2015-12-21 15:03:05] habibi : ffs people still using isolated on no market move to build position
[2015-12-21 15:04:48] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 122 @ 435.03
[2015-12-21 15:04:48] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1824 @ 434.89
[2015-12-21 15:12:08] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 100 @ 435.99
[2015-12-21 15:35:29] podizzle3k : thats because you can get rekt and buy back at discount and if th eprice recovers still come out on top
[2015-12-21 15:35:32] podizzle3k : its kind of a flaw
[2015-12-21 15:35:45] podizzle3k : or a loophole
[2015-12-21 15:35:46] podizzle3k : seems
[2015-12-21 15:39:11] habibi : me? ;p
[2015-12-21 15:39:34] habibi : i mean isolated position should be used only on large movements
[2015-12-21 15:39:39] habibi : but still cross is better choice
[2015-12-21 15:56:38] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 100 @ 435.75
[2015-12-21 16:59:19] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 2933 @ 439.75
[2015-12-21 17:00:59] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 1 @ 440.25
[2015-12-21 17:00:59] REKT : Big whale detected
[2015-12-21 17:07:46] dorothy490 : REKT: you're bot or semi-automated bot?
[2015-12-21 17:08:27] TschavaTschigger : bot
[2015-12-21 17:08:54] Swedishnut : how is a Big Whale Detected?
[2015-12-21 17:10:06] BitMEX_Sam : 1 Cont liquidation
[2015-12-21 17:10:08] BitMEX_Sam : It's a joke
[2015-12-21 17:10:11] habibi : 1contract = big whale
[2015-12-21 17:11:00] Swedishnut : ahh :) I like it :P didn't know if it had sonar or a underwater mic :P
[2015-12-21 17:11:04] BitMEX_Sam : A 1 cont isolated position costs about 0.00004 XBT (about 1.7 cents) to open
[2015-12-21 17:15:07] jesperf : hmm, i should have been more confident in my position, secured profits too early
[2015-12-21 17:15:29] jesperf : double dips are scary though
[2015-12-21 17:16:26] chromaticcr : @BitMEX_Sam get a faucet button here like the dice site so everyone can be a 1 contract whale (and attract gambling degens here to lose money lol)
[2015-12-21 17:16:48] jesperf : BitMEX_Sam: do you keep secret internal scoreboards over users who made most profit?
[2015-12-21 17:16:58] BitMEX_Sam : chromaticcr: Actually not the worst idea, we're working on a more fun onboarding experience
[2015-12-21 17:17:16] BitMEX_Sam : AKA you come to the site and can trade immediately, either with testnet coin or with some small amount of funds we give you to get started with
[2015-12-21 17:17:38] BitMEX_Sam : jesperf: Yeah, we plan to publish that soon with anonymous user IDs, with the ability to 'go public' and publish your username
[2015-12-21 17:18:42] jesperf : cool :) I'm just glad to finally be in the black since I paid for my learning mistakes
[2015-12-21 17:33:55] nickhnt : it would be nice to see top contract holders too
[2015-12-21 17:34:35] nickhnt : just a list with who owns how much of contract XYZ
[2015-12-21 17:34:59] nickhnt : the username can be anonnymous too
[2015-12-21 18:21:50] TschavaTschigger : 20 minutes no trade, interesting
[2015-12-21 18:34:00] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 50 @ 438.87
[2015-12-21 18:59:50] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 100 @ 438.07
[2015-12-21 19:00:40] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 10 @ 436.39
[2015-12-21 19:54:49] mwalshe99 : anyone from support online?
[2015-12-21 19:55:08] mwalshe99 : or any staff?
[2015-12-21 19:55:32] BitMEX_Sam : Hey mwalshe99
[2015-12-21 19:55:34] BitMEX_Sam : What's up?
[2015-12-21 19:55:46] mwalshe99 : Hey sam
[2015-12-21 19:55:50] mwalshe99 : feature request
[2015-12-21 19:55:54] mwalshe99 : in the active orders tab
[2015-12-21 19:56:11] mwalshe99 : can you make the price a textbox
[2015-12-21 19:56:36] mwalshe99 : and a submit button
[2015-12-21 19:56:43] mwalshe99 : or maybe just an enter
[2015-12-21 19:56:57] mwalshe99 : allow us to change our orders without having to cancel them and reissue new ones
[2015-12-21 19:57:10] dorothy490 : +1
[2015-12-21 19:57:34] dorothy490 : also allow to place orders for more than we have at the moment (basically balance x2)
[2015-12-21 19:57:53] mwalshe99 : yes
[2015-12-21 19:57:53] BitMEX_Sam : Agreed that order amend would be nice
[2015-12-21 19:58:03] BitMEX_Sam : We're working to expose that via the API soon, then it will make its way down to the site
[2015-12-21 19:58:23] dorothy490 : for example if I have full short here and I want to buy x2 of current short at 400, its not possible
[2015-12-21 19:58:27] mwalshe99 : what dorothy said aswell. being able to close a short with a long without having to have double the balance..
[2015-12-21 19:58:32] BitMEX_Sam : Re: placing more orders than you have $ for, that's tricky because we will then need to automatically cancel orders if you can't afford them
[2015-12-21 19:58:39] BitMEX_Sam : You already can switch sides efficiently
[2015-12-21 19:58:44] dorothy490 : how so
[2015-12-21 19:58:51] BitMEX_Sam : Note the buy/sell cost in the order controls
[2015-12-21 19:58:59] BitMEX_Sam : We take your current position into account when calculating that.
[2015-12-21 19:59:15] BitMEX_Sam : If you're short and want to go flat, there's no buy cost. If you want to place a buy large enough to go long, the buy cost reflects that
[2015-12-21 19:59:18] dorothy490 : if I have open short for 400 and leverage x100 then I cant haev buy for 800 lower
[2015-12-21 19:59:55] dorothy490 : nope its not effective side switching
[2015-12-21 20:00:13] BitMEX_Sam : Ah, the issue is that you need to have the funds available to open the new position, it doesn't note that closing the position will free up more funds
[2015-12-21 20:00:28] BitMEX_Sam : As in, it costs no margin to close, but to re-open costs funds which you won't have until the order executes
[2015-12-21 20:00:30] dorothy490 : side swithcing if I have 100 contracts and I want to reverse order at 400$ then I cant do it automatically
[2015-12-21 20:00:46] BitMEX_Sam : Right. Let me talk to Wally about how we could handle that
[2015-12-21 20:00:47] dorothy490 : my only option is to wait my short to be closed and only then place buy order
[2015-12-21 20:01:02] dorothy490 : please
[2015-12-21 20:01:13] BitMEX_Sam : Understood - we'll talk it over internally - thanks for the request.
[2015-12-21 20:02:09] mwalshe99 : thanks guys
[2015-12-21 20:02:14] mwalshe99 : really like this exchange
[2015-12-21 20:28:17] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: btw, did people tell you about the 1-ordersize-orderbook glitch that happened recently?
[2015-12-21 20:28:29] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: as u can see mm bot doesnt work well on exchange do u consider going back to old fees system?
[2015-12-21 20:28:48] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: No, didn't see anything, what was the issue?
[2015-12-21 20:28:53] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: Not sure what you mean
[2015-12-21 20:29:25] habibi : i mean it doesnt really reduces the gap between buy/sell as u mentioned first day like -0.4$
[2015-12-21 20:30:07] BitMEX_Sam : It's an incentive, we don't expect MMs to react immediately, but we already believe it's made a difference in the aggregate
[2015-12-21 20:31:10] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: someone was spamming the orderbook with 1-size-orders. even when turning on grouping, the orderbook only showed the trash orders. I guess this is because you use orderbook25 in your websocket which only gets the first 25 levels. if those levels are spammed, we can't see the others
[2015-12-21 20:31:38] BitMEX_Sam : Ah I see. Ping us next time (if you didn't then) and we'll handle it
[2015-12-21 20:31:50] TschavaTschigger : gladly he stopped after a couple of minutes
[2015-12-21 20:31:54] BitMEX_Sam : That definitely crosses the line into abuse. I'm hesitant to switch the frontend's socket over to the full book until we've had some time to trim the diffs
[2015-12-21 20:31:56] TschavaTschigger : yepp will do
[2015-12-21 20:33:33] TschavaTschigger : you basically couldn't trade for a couple of minutes on the site because there was no way to see any orders
[2015-12-21 20:39:02] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah. That's understandably bad - we'll prioritize fixing that ASAP
[2015-12-21 20:41:32] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 50 @ 436.19
[2015-12-21 20:42:42] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1100 @ 435.65
[2015-12-21 20:54:41] justinlooking : stupid question time... why is mark price for H16 $6 above best offer?
[2015-12-21 20:55:27] BitMEX_Sam : H16 doesn't run the weighted bid/ask system that 24H and 7D do
[2015-12-21 20:55:36] BitMEX_Sam : It uses a static fair basis rate.
[2015-12-21 20:56:39] BitMEX_Sam : You can see this in the full instrument table (adv view), I'll add it to the contract description, it should be there as well.
[2015-12-21 21:02:05] justinlooking : cool, thanksi should of looked a bit harder
[2015-12-21 21:03:03] BitMEX_Sam : It's okay, that should be more obvious. :)
[2015-12-21 21:03:31] justinlooking : so u know if we're getting a Jan yet?
[2015-12-21 21:07:59] BitMEX_Sam : Not sure. Will have to ask Arthur when he is up (should be in the next hour or so).
[2015-12-21 21:09:38] SnackyCoins : we'd at least get a jan XBT right?
[2015-12-21 21:10:04] BitMEX_Sam : Yes I believe so.
[2015-12-21 21:11:00] SnackyCoins : if we hit a new ATH, can we get XBU re-listed? :)
[2015-12-21 21:11:27] zanza : I'm ready for June 2016
[2015-12-21 21:11:35] zanza : already got my MM spreadsheet
[2015-12-21 21:12:27] BitMEX_Sam : We definitely want to keep XBU alive, personally I really like the structure of the product
[2015-12-21 21:12:34] BitMEX_Sam : It's just a matter of sourcing enough liquidity to keep it going.
[2015-12-21 21:16:50] SnackyCoins : Do you think it would be deeper as a weekly?
[2015-12-21 21:19:48] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: hey Sam, can u hide charts behind a button like on mobile? so we can choose to never load them?
[2015-12-21 21:20:10] rapidtrades : now it's the default screen once u login
[2015-12-21 21:20:13] BitMEX_Sam : SnackyCoins: We've considered that
[2015-12-21 21:20:25] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: By default it shouldn't load on mobile unless you press a button
[2015-12-21 21:20:33] BitMEX_Sam : Since the chart is heavy and some mobile browsers can't handle it well.
[2015-12-21 21:20:41] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: yep, I'm asking the same for pc
[2015-12-21 21:20:49] BitMEX_Sam : Oh, "like on mobile", my bad
[2015-12-21 21:20:51] rapidtrades : cos that's prolly where the lag comes from
[2015-12-21 21:21:14] BitMEX_Sam : On the basic view, you can just switch the tabs. On the advanced view, technically, you can minimize it
[2015-12-21 21:21:25] BitMEX_Sam : Any minimized widget doesn't actually render.
[2015-12-21 21:21:38] SnackyCoins : looks like minimizing it on advanced unloads it? it has to re-load when un-minimized at least
[2015-12-21 21:21:40] BitMEX_Sam : Of course, it leaves a big hole in your layout which is a bit ugly, but it works
[2015-12-21 21:22:05] BitMEX_Sam : In the (hopefully near) future we'll allow rearranging widgets.
[2015-12-21 21:34:31] rapidtrades : bitfinex new layout if laggy as shiit
[2015-12-21 21:37:20] TschavaTschigger : rapidtrades: whats your pc? raspberry pi?
[2015-12-21 21:37:51] zanza : rofl
[2015-12-21 21:38:27] TschavaTschigger : finex is super-smooth for me, the new layout is really well done imho
[2015-12-21 21:39:23] zanza : but their core trading engine is sh*t, isn't it?
[2015-12-21 21:41:35] TschavaTschigger : I really like the new trades tab at finex. not only shows it bids/asks being hit as green/red, but also does it weight the intensity of the color with the size of the trade.. maybe something for here in the future @BitMEX_Sam
[2015-12-21 21:41:48] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: That's a good idea
[2015-12-21 21:42:30] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, I see they don't even mark up/down at all
[2015-12-21 21:42:53] BitMEX_Sam : Of course, with our contract sizes, it's a bit easier to eyeball how large the buy/sell was, but it's a nice style regardless
[2015-12-21 21:44:20] TschavaTschigger : yeah, for their exchange it's a fantastic feature. you really have an instant overview of large orders, and the layout is still not too intrusive
[2015-12-21 21:45:23] TschavaTschigger : BTW, I have never seen up/down being marked as green/red in trade history anywhere before I came here. in tickers, yes, but not in trade history.
[2015-12-21 21:45:42] BitMEX_Sam : Right
[2015-12-21 21:45:53] BitMEX_Sam : There's a lot of non-standard things in Bitcoin exchanges.
[2015-12-21 21:46:22] TschavaTschigger : generally, in finance, I mean
[2015-12-21 21:46:29] BitMEX_Sam : It's partially because of the target market, partially because the trading really is different, and partially because oftentimes the coders are web guys, not finance guys
[2015-12-21 21:47:13] BitMEX_Sam : So it appears bitfinex has rolled the WS to production
[2015-12-21 21:47:21] TschavaTschigger : yepp. but it get's more and more serious. I mean, bitmex itself is the best example, I also feel this is how arthur wants to positoin the company
[2015-12-21 21:47:23] BitMEX_Sam : Good move, takes a huge amount of load off the backend
[2015-12-21 21:47:34] bertmacklin666 : WS?
[2015-12-21 21:47:37] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: Right, we've always been that way because Arthur and Wally worked in traditional finance
[2015-12-21 21:47:41] BitMEX_Sam : bertmacklin666: WebSocket
[2015-12-21 21:47:57] BitMEX_Sam : They're probably one of the last exchanges to the party, good on them for finally launching it
[2015-12-21 21:48:14] SnackyCoins : shots fired
[2015-12-21 21:48:21] BitMEX_Sam : When we were indexing on BFX, we found it intensely frustrating that there was no real-time data
[2015-12-21 21:48:32] bertmacklin666 : Explain what websockets do, to someone who is technically impaired
[2015-12-21 21:48:40] BitMEX_Sam : bertmacklin666: Server can push data to you, instead of you asking for it
[2015-12-21 21:48:51] bertmacklin666 : ic, thanks
[2015-12-21 21:49:15] BitMEX_Sam : Many benefits: one, users get the most real-time data, instead of data every 5s or 10s, but for the servers, it's a huge boon as well because we can just push data as it happens to everyone, rather than having to handle tons of requests from open clients
[2015-12-21 21:51:27] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: btw, you have an ETA for that anonymous leaderboard?
[2015-12-21 21:53:48] BitMEX_Sam : Not yet, we're working on some redesign to the main dashboard so we can squeeze in some new order types
[2015-12-21 21:54:36] BitMEX_Sam : We're excited about it, we spent some time with a good UX buddy of ours and have been able to simplify the layout a good amount
[2015-12-21 21:54:43] BitMEX_Sam : While allowing ourselves some room to easily add new features
[2015-12-21 21:59:29] TschavaTschigger : sounds very exciting indeed
[2015-12-21 22:11:48] GetRich : Get Money
[2015-12-21 22:12:22] GetRich : China going to tha moon
[2015-12-21 22:13:35] GetRich : BTC
[2015-12-21 22:13:53] BitMEX_Sam : &xbt;
[2015-12-21 23:00:10] zanza : UX here is great already =]
[2015-12-21 23:07:09] zanza : anyone have a preference for FOREX trading, simplefx or 1broker?
[2015-12-21 23:07:52] SnackyCoins : https://goo.gl/dAWAQ9 has a better affiliate program 8)
[2015-12-21 23:08:38] SnackyCoins : but https://goo.gl/4Z50mS has the simpler interface imo, unless you want MT4 8)
[2015-12-21 23:09:08] SnackyCoins : i went all in on oil this AM
[2015-12-21 23:10:18] SnackyCoins : gap up & all day accumulation, while the news laid on the bearish oil stories all fucking day we did not even close the gap or make any new lows https://www.tradingview.com/x/OTdWWYQq/
[2015-12-21 23:12:03] zanza : does simplefx charge fees 7 days a week ?
[2015-12-21 23:12:22] habibi : nope, only saturday's mornings
[2015-12-21 23:12:32] zanza : thats not true
[2015-12-21 23:12:35] habibi : and sometimes at 3'o clock at night
[2015-12-21 23:12:44] habibi : but only when satan goes out
[2015-12-21 23:13:28] messiaen8844 : SnackyCoins: I'm longing the oil from $34.8 in a monthly contract, let's see how that plays out. tight stop
[2015-12-21 23:21:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Hello
[2015-12-21 23:22:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : How's everyone doing?
[2015-12-21 23:23:06] zanza : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: good
[2015-12-21 23:23:20] habibi : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: where have u been ?
[2015-12-21 23:23:23] habibi : miss u :*
[2015-12-21 23:23:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Studying haha. Finally free for a bit though
[2015-12-21 23:23:47] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Good to see you all again
[2015-12-21 23:24:07] habibi : not all :( some of people here get rekt during two dumps over night
[2015-12-21 23:24:36] habibi : like... ah its going up i am gonna sleep with long - few people though...and its rekt
[2015-12-21 23:24:37] wurstgelee : seriously? who?
[2015-12-21 23:24:54] wurstgelee : never sleep in a position @ 100x cross.....
[2015-12-21 23:25:04] habibi : wurstgelee: u know that dpe and 200k contracts liquidated dont comes from sky
[2015-12-21 23:25:05] habibi : ?
[2015-12-21 23:25:12] wurstgelee : ofc
[2015-12-21 23:25:18] habibi : 100x is isolated, cross is 1-100x :p
[2015-12-21 23:25:30] wurstgelee : but i dont know who did get rekt with those
[2015-12-21 23:25:55] habibi : dont know who, just see that we dont have that much traders here even at price action
[2015-12-21 23:26:17] wurstgelee : yep, that makes sense
[2015-12-21 23:26:44] wurstgelee : still ~10k btc turnover in 24h
[2015-12-21 23:26:50] wurstgelee : not bad for such a few users =)
[2015-12-21 23:27:56] micmix : Realised PNL: 0.0001 XBT making a bank here :-)
[2015-12-21 23:29:11] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : micmix: Haha better than mine right now
[2015-12-21 23:30:18] wurstgelee : micmix: haha :D
[2015-12-21 23:30:50] wurstgelee : dont spend it all on hookers and drinks in one night
[2015-12-21 23:32:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : When did fees change?
[2015-12-21 23:34:04] lockhedge : micmix: how did your market maker do yesterday?
[2015-12-21 23:34:22] BitMEX_Sam : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Nov 20
[2015-12-21 23:34:29] micmix : lockhedge: very well, one of the best days so far
[2015-12-21 23:35:46] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: Oh ok I wasn't around and just noticed, thanks. Do you actually get paid .025% for a limit order now if it's taken?
[2015-12-21 23:35:56] wurstgelee : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: yes
[2015-12-21 23:35:59] BitMEX_Sam : Yep
[2015-12-21 23:36:02] micmix : lockhedge: do you still have your MM running here?
[2015-12-21 23:36:18] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Wow very cool. Is there somewhere I can see the old fees for comparison?
[2015-12-21 23:36:55] BitMEX_Sam : There isn't, but I can tell you, old fees were flat 0/0.05% maker/taker
[2015-12-21 23:37:02] BitMEX_Sam : Except for XBU which is higher and unchanged.
[2015-12-21 23:37:38] lockhedge : micmix: great to here. my bot lost a bit yesterday but is generally doing fine, upgraded the code, it's currently quoting 100 on bid/ask
[2015-12-21 23:37:48] lockhedge : great to *hear*...
[2015-12-21 23:38:04] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: Ok thanks :)
[2015-12-21 23:38:24] BitMEX_Sam : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: np - hope to see you around more
[2015-12-21 23:38:36] BitMEX_Sam : I'm off for a bit, the other guys are just getting on, see you all later on.
[2015-12-21 23:38:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: I plan to be, at least for the next month or so
[2015-12-21 23:38:47] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Later!
[2015-12-21 23:40:57] micmix : lockhedge: cool, I can see your MM in front from time to time. my MM does well in high volatility. straight up is the worst scenario because takers here are strongly skewed toward longs
[2015-12-21 23:48:07] lockhedge : micmix: same for me, straight up was the hell... trying out some new strategies, maker rebates were a strong incentive to quote more competitive prices
[2015-12-21 23:52:10] lockhedge : micmix: btw, if you are still interested in a BIX websocket feed, i'm just testing pusher.com, pusher id <code>cf8d2e4ae29bb0960db7</code> channel <code>bix_alpha</code> event <code>price_update</code> https://pusher.com/docs/client_api_guide
[2015-12-22 00:04:05] micmix : lockhedge: oh cool, will try pusher
[2015-12-22 00:06:12] jung1 : any chance for <400 this year?
[2015-12-22 00:07:24] justinlooking : reckon there's another dump imminent?
[2015-12-22 00:08:19] j8 : now that futures have recovered... maybe
[2015-12-22 02:12:07] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1 @ 439.94
[2015-12-22 02:12:07] REKT : Big whale detected
[2015-12-22 04:04:44] dr.rock : think we'll find support here?
[2015-12-22 04:52:23] Swedishnut : idk. but 444 was the last couple bumps ish and up pressure from turbulent forex leads here so again idk
[2015-12-22 05:17:37] Trade_master_3000 : isolated margin call is like a 4$ move right
[2015-12-22 05:17:38] Trade_master_3000 : 100x
[2015-12-22 05:21:30] j8 : 2$ only in fact
[2015-12-22 05:29:22] Trade_master_3000 : lol rip
[2015-12-22 06:04:01] ethexio : Uh..
[2015-12-22 06:04:06] ethexio : Weird..
[2015-12-22 06:07:23] rapidtrades : hey what was that mobile app for alerts?
[2015-12-22 06:08:55] ethexio : Bitcoin Checker?
[2015-12-22 06:09:01] rapidtrades : no
[2015-12-22 06:09:52] ethexio : That's what I use, pretty decent.
[2015-12-22 06:47:08] ethexio : Lotsa action, good times.
[2015-12-22 07:58:52] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 2000 @ 441.33
[2015-12-22 08:22:38] wurstgelee : i love the smell of mewn in the morning
[2015-12-22 08:46:50] dorothy490 : wurstgelee: its only smellz ©
[2015-12-22 08:47:14] wurstgelee : =)
[2015-12-22 09:37:35] TschavaTschigger : 07:47 - ethexio: Lotsa action, good times.
[2015-12-22 09:37:36] TschavaTschigger : wutt?
[2015-12-22 09:47:48] wurstgelee : not right in this minute ;)
[2015-12-22 09:48:05] wurstgelee : i think we will see some movement today tho
[2015-12-22 09:53:34] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 10 @ 442.94
[2015-12-22 09:55:20] justinlooking : btc-e almost parity is encouraging.. oth china bid side is light. would be happy with some sideways consolidation so moon can resume
[2015-12-22 10:05:17] laisee : nice post-dump comeback in progress
[2015-12-22 10:10:39] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-12-22 10:11:17] justinlooking : has been great bounce from 21day MA
[2015-12-22 10:11:34] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT7D: Buy 1000 @ 446.89
[2015-12-22 10:11:35] justinlooking : but 100 day is still $350 :-S
[2015-12-22 10:32:18] laisee : BTC needs to grow a pair and smash past 500 by year end
[2015-12-22 11:02:55] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 1045 @ 442.29
[2015-12-22 11:55:12] chromaticcr : would be a good choice to close the short (if you have any) on XBT24H at 440.5 now than to settle to save a few cents
[2015-12-22 11:55:55] chromaticcr : aannd it's gone lol
[2015-12-22 11:55:58] rapidtrades : aaaaand it's gone...tnx
[2015-12-22 11:56:04] rapidtrades : stop copying me
[2015-12-22 11:56:25] chromaticcr : obviously i type'd that first XDD
[2015-12-22 11:56:48] rapidtrades : no I did but my browser is laggy as shit
[2015-12-22 11:57:04] rapidtrades : I need a new browser....or a new computer
[2015-12-22 12:16:37] laisee : upgrade to a bigger, faster internet prolly ...
[2015-12-22 12:17:19] dorothy490 : rapidtrades: all you need is love
[2015-12-22 13:23:35] podizzle3k : damn my short didnt fill
[2015-12-22 13:26:07] podizzle3k : so long 2900
[2015-12-22 13:26:07] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 2000 @ 437.82
[2015-12-22 13:33:10] wurstgelee : podizzle3k: wb 2900 :p
[2015-12-22 13:54:43] habibi : poor guy who opened long at 440 for ~35k
[2015-12-22 13:56:03] dorothy490 : habibi: why you think he opened long and not covered short?
[2015-12-22 13:56:23] habibi : could be :)
[2015-12-22 13:56:33] dorothy490 : 4 minutes to doom
[2015-12-22 13:56:48] habibi : but it was just after sentiment
[2015-12-22 13:56:54] habibi : so only option was hedge
[2015-12-22 13:57:04] rapidtrades : dorothy490: sleger?
[2015-12-22 14:01:53] dorothy490 : BURN!
[2015-12-22 14:02:33] TschavaTschigger : nice dump
[2015-12-22 14:02:44] dorothy490 : PANIK
[2015-12-22 14:03:07] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 2471 @ 434.44
[2015-12-22 14:06:19] TschavaTschigger : wow
[2015-12-22 14:06:56] chromaticcr : BTFD
[2015-12-22 14:11:19] dorothy490 : so weak
[2015-12-22 14:20:03] billyboy402 : Suck that last settlement was above my 440 buy in . And 2 hours later it drop
[2015-12-22 14:21:38] chromaticcr : just like yesterday
[2015-12-22 14:23:10] billyboy402 : Yea I've lost both settlement by $2 don't know why I bother
[2015-12-22 14:23:12] billyboy402 : lol
[2015-12-22 14:34:36] chromaticcr : 2$... you must be 10 contracts whale
[2015-12-22 15:13:19] dr.rock : the slow grind down?
[2015-12-22 15:13:40] dr.rock : any support around here?
[2015-12-22 15:14:11] BitMEX_Wally : dr.rock: BitMEX can give you customer support :)
[2015-12-22 15:15:45] dr.rock : thanks wally, you guys rock!
[2015-12-22 15:32:49] dr.rock : seems like 3000 is going to be a challenge, we'll see
[2015-12-22 15:58:40] jung1 : http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+MOTION+B8-2015-1366+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN
[2015-12-22 15:58:58] jung1 : Calls on the Commission to allow Member States to exercise stricter controls over all virtual currency exchange transactions and even to prohibit them;
[2015-12-22 15:59:03] jung1 : short time?
[2015-12-22 16:00:29] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 17 @ 438.51
[2015-12-22 16:02:35] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: how accurate is open interest info on 24h?
[2015-12-22 16:04:29] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: It is updated in real time
[2015-12-22 16:05:08] habibi : after settlement i opened 6k short, open interest was 7k
[2015-12-22 16:05:23] habibi : should'nt it be 12k at least?
[2015-12-22 16:05:34] BitMEX_Wally : No
[2015-12-22 16:05:48] BitMEX_Wally : Total shorts were 6k + 1k = 7h
[2015-12-22 16:05:52] chromaticcr : @jung us should chop off internet access to fix the piracy issue with crypto issue tgt. 2 birds 1 stone!
[2015-12-22 16:05:52] BitMEX_Wally : Total longs were 7k?
[2015-12-22 16:06:01] habibi : ah k
[2015-12-22 16:07:48] BitMEX_Wally : I'm sure some Chinese exchanges would love to double count open interest...
[2015-12-22 16:07:55] BitMEX_Wally : Like they do with trading volume
[2015-12-22 16:08:09] habibi : true
[2015-12-22 16:08:18] habibi : 1 sell- 2 btc volume coz 1 buy and 1 sell lel
[2015-12-22 16:09:47] BitMEX_Sam : http://cdn.meme.am/instances/64744021.jpg
[2015-12-22 16:10:21] gielbier : aliens
[2015-12-22 16:10:52] BitMEX_Wally : Aliens did that to his hair?
[2015-12-22 16:11:00] TschavaTschigger : they should triple count volume... 100 btc get sold, 100 btc bought, and that all with a trade of 100btc size
[2015-12-22 16:11:13] TschavaTschigger : = 300 btc
[2015-12-22 16:11:42] chromaticcr : make a forloop for it to multiply, no fee anyway
[2015-12-22 16:12:09] chromaticcr : they rob users with 0.1%/day Bitcoin loans, jesus christ...
[2015-12-22 16:12:16] BitMEX_Wally : Maybe we should treat margin trading the same as fractional reserve banking
[2015-12-22 16:12:49] BitMEX_Wally : 10% reserve requirement means $100 deposit and you can lend out $90
[2015-12-22 16:13:02] chromaticcr : 0.1%/day paperBitcoin*, dump some number in the bank (exchange) just like the fed
[2015-12-22 16:13:05] BitMEX_Wally : That $90 is then deposited with your own bank so you can lend out $81....
[2015-12-22 16:14:09] habibi : basically with 1k usd banks can lend up to 35k-40k usd depends on % they use
[2015-12-22 16:14:48] BitMEX_Wally : 100 90 81 72 64 57 51 45 40 36 32 28 25 22 19 17 15 13 11 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 so in total you have $900 in 'deposits' from $100 real deposit
[2015-12-22 16:15:28] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: but then u borrow that money to another bank, another bank borrow people again, people put that money again in bank, bank again borrow from this money futher
[2015-12-22 16:15:28] gielbier : BitMEX_Wally: donno you tell me http://i.imgur.com/GMuRhL1.jpg
[2015-12-22 16:16:03] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: Well, if everyone has the same reserve requirement then the leverage is still only 1 / req
[2015-12-22 16:16:21] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: It does not matter if you put the loan into your own bank or another bank
[2015-12-22 16:37:33] rapidtrades : the reverse requirement says that you have to keep a certain % of deposits in cash, so that ppl can withdraw at any time...it doesn't mean that you can multiple that money and lend out XXX
[2015-12-22 16:46:53] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: Yes, you cannot lend out more than you have. But once you lend out what you do have, and it gets deposited at your own bank.... you can then lend it out. Hence this multiplicative effect
[2015-12-22 16:48:52] thehawthorne : you can lend out more than you have. just make people believe you have more than you have. ;-)
[2015-12-22 18:34:42] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: that doesn't make sense
[2015-12-22 18:35:20] zanza : i have a bnch of tabs open in Firefox becomes VERY slow
[2015-12-22 18:35:32] rapidtrades : me too
[2015-12-22 18:35:34] zanza : i have a bnch of tabs open in Firefox becomes VERY slow
[2015-12-22 18:35:45] rapidtrades : wait no I have only 4
[2015-12-22 18:35:48] zanza : its not my CPU or memory (since i have extra memory)
[2015-12-22 18:36:07] rapidtrades : yeah..are u on bitfinex? they changed the interface
[2015-12-22 18:36:19] zanza : not on Finex, i am on simplefx tho
[2015-12-22 18:37:05] rapidtrades : okc?
[2015-12-22 18:46:00] zanza : i just have a lot of tabs open, but Firefox can't seem to handle it
[2015-12-22 18:46:07] zanza : Is this a Firefox problem, or something on my end?
[2015-12-22 18:46:30] zanza : Im asking here because I know a lot tech saaavy traders are with probably with a lot of windows/tabs open a
[2015-12-22 18:46:51] BitMEX_Sam : Depends, some sites take a lot more resources than others, and sometimes they can get into states where they start gobbling up cpu
[2015-12-22 18:46:52] zanza : charts and data, but as I mentioned, my CPU load is fine, and I still have free memory
[2015-12-22 18:47:03] zanza : ok thanks BitMEX_Sam !
[2015-12-22 18:47:07] BitMEX_Sam : AFAIK Firefox has a tougher time with this than Chrome
[2015-12-22 18:47:16] zanza : ok, i guess its time to switch
[2015-12-22 18:47:30] zanza : I've used Firefox forever almost
[2015-12-22 18:49:12] rapidtrades : yeah just noticed my memory is high as well
[2015-12-22 18:50:01] rapidtrades : zanza: let me know if it helps, I may need to switch too
[2015-12-22 18:50:57] MrRGnome : Even using chrome, which isolated tabs execution and memory so they can fail independently without crashing everything else, I experience sever memory and cpu use which debilitates my system when I ahve all my bitcoin charts open.
[2015-12-22 18:51:33] rapidtrades : I don't understand why we can't have standalone clients like mt4
[2015-12-22 18:52:08] MrRGnome : It comes down to how these crappy sites cache data, i.e. none of them do. They actively perform operations he entire data set instead of isolating segments of data and caching the rest.
[2015-12-22 18:52:46] rapidtrades : f okc handles billions per day and no fuckkking client...I can kinda excuse bitmex but none of the large sites offer standalone software
[2015-12-22 18:52:56] rapidtrades : trading shouldn't be done in a browser
[2015-12-22 18:53:01] rapidtrades : it's too slow
[2015-12-22 18:53:02] zanza : simplefx has MT4 compatability
[2015-12-22 18:53:10] BitMEX_Sam : MrRGnome: That's not true, at least not for our implementation
[2015-12-22 18:53:10] zanza : but its Forex/currencies mostly
[2015-12-22 18:53:19] MrRGnome : certainly not the best tool for the job, but with proper optimization it should eb doable.
[2015-12-22 18:53:24] rapidtrades : btc-e has too but they all need to offer some light-weight option
[2015-12-22 18:53:28] MrRGnome : You guys ren't really a charting site with millions of dat apoints
[2015-12-22 18:53:33] MrRGnome : You don't really have these issues
[2015-12-22 18:53:47] zanza : its difficult with Bitcoin, since it is irreversable, its very vulnerable to hacking
[2015-12-22 18:54:17] BitMEX_Sam : Most of the charting sites like e.g. cryptowatch already bin the data before sending it, but honestly Canvas/JS is slow compared to native draw
[2015-12-22 18:54:20] BitMEX_Sam : It's getting better ofc.
[2015-12-22 18:54:43] rapidtrades : bitfinex changed their interface and now I get massive lag there , can't keep that tab open...just idk how they do their testing?
[2015-12-22 18:55:00] BitMEX_Sam : Part of the issue is, you have to write JS, and in order to make JS really fast you have to spend a ton of time with a profiler and learn the V8 incantations
[2015-12-22 18:55:08] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: Yeah, likely they are updating the page even while it's not active
[2015-12-22 18:55:15] MrRGnome : I've been profiling your site extensively BItMEX_Sam, I don't see any big data optimizations necessary - almost all of your overhead is UI and latency related.
[2015-12-22 18:55:34] BitMEX_Sam : We batch work while the page isn't visible then execute it in a single tx when reopened
[2015-12-22 18:56:01] BitMEX_Sam : Right, the majority of the work is in the layout; one big thing we'll knock out soon is our date handling, momentjs is far slower than I would like.
[2015-12-22 18:56:23] BitMEX_Sam : That always shows up slower than anything else when we profile.
[2015-12-22 18:56:36] MrRGnome : ^yep
[2015-12-22 18:59:01] zanza : ok, I tried to "disable hardware acceleration" in Firexfox, some people say this may help
[2015-12-22 18:59:17] BitMEX_Sam : The key to that is putting all the display translations (e.g. ISO date strings to readable dates) into reusable Intl wrapper elements that are pure functions and can be easily memoized
[2015-12-22 18:59:29] BitMEX_Sam : We'll be doing a lot more Intl work in the near future as we start to support more european languages and eventually Chinese
[2015-12-22 19:00:12] MrRGnome : I don't know if it's a viable option, but I would be pushing as much of that work on to the client as possible in my initial js delivery
[2015-12-22 19:01:04] rapidtrades : zanza: did that help?
[2015-12-22 19:01:12] zanza : will lety ou know
[2015-12-22 19:01:14] zanza : gunna try it a bit
[2015-12-22 19:01:15] BitMEX_Sam : It's only 20-30ms to recalculate every date shown on the site, the issue is doing some of that while the market is flying; needs to be <1ms
[2015-12-22 19:01:23] BitMEX_Sam : sub ms
[2015-12-22 19:02:00] MrRGnome : But you're recalculating date data from ISO for display purposes right? And right now you're using moment.js?
[2015-12-22 19:02:09] BitMEX_Sam : Yes
[2015-12-22 19:02:17] BitMEX_Sam : Big issue is locale/timezone
[2015-12-22 19:02:45] BitMEX_Sam : Moment does better formatting / relative time values than anything else, but it's overbuilt IMO and not made for speed
[2015-12-22 19:02:57] MrRGnome : IMO a vanilla JS implementation will probably be faster for that single operation than anything else
[2015-12-22 19:03:38] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, the issue is we do a couple of separate transforms. But I'm looking into something much lighter-weight
[2015-12-22 19:03:55] BitMEX_Sam : The nice thing is that this is now a standard (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Intl)
[2015-12-22 19:03:55] MrRGnome : Yeah sounds like your transforms are killing you.
[2015-12-22 19:04:12] BitMEX_Sam : I wouldn't call it "killing", site is still plenty fast, just could be faster.
[2015-12-22 19:04:30] MrRGnome : The site's great, to be honest.
[2015-12-22 19:05:00] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks.
[2015-12-22 19:05:12] zanza : I don't think this site needs be to faster
[2015-12-22 19:05:24] MrRGnome : EVERYTHING needs to be faster =P
[2015-12-22 19:10:31] BitMEX_Sam : Can't hurt, that's for sure.
[2015-12-22 19:13:26] gielbier : Can we get a double daily? one with settlement at 1PM one with settlement at 1 AM?
[2015-12-22 19:13:49] gielbier : Eurotraders don't enter the market before 1 PM.
[2015-12-22 19:14:44] gielbier : its a fracked up time to get positions <7 hours before settlement
[2015-12-22 19:14:49] BitMEX_Sam : We would be unlikely to do that, since it would split liquidity.
[2015-12-22 19:15:38] gielbier : hmz that does make sense. but on the otherhand. I don't trade before 1 PM nor get position because of the settlement being so close in time
[2015-12-22 19:16:07] BitMEX_Sam : Understood; being a global business, unfortunately there will always be a few time zones where it is more difficult to trade
[2015-12-22 19:16:34] gielbier : Yeah i get that. but doing a 12h split wouldn't hurt right?
[2015-12-22 19:16:50] gielbier : instead of 24h
[2015-12-22 19:18:16] zanza : rapidtrades: yeah, faster so far
[2015-12-22 19:18:48] BitMEX_Sam : Your issue is that, in the morning, it's too close to settlement to trade, right?
[2015-12-22 19:19:02] BitMEX_Sam : If we split it to two 12hr contracts, it would always be close to settlement
[2015-12-22 19:19:11] BitMEX_Sam : And if we split it two 24hr contracts offset by 12hrs, we would split liquidity.
[2015-12-22 19:34:06] habibi : lets make 1hour contracts or 1 minute!
[2015-12-22 19:34:18] zanza : habibi: good idea, no one left behind
[2015-12-22 19:34:29] habibi : or even 1 second for rapid rapidtrades
[2015-12-22 19:34:33] zanza : make it 1000x for good measure
[2015-12-22 19:35:02] habibi : just go for binary option guys if u need lower range then 24h..
[2015-12-22 19:56:29] dorothy490 : BitMEX_Sam: there is a problem using website from mobile on UC browser latest vesion
[2015-12-22 19:56:42] dorothy490 : it flicks and logoffs after several seconds
[2015-12-22 20:12:10] BitMEX_Sam : dorothy490: UC browser?
[2015-12-22 20:12:53] BitMEX_Sam : Interesting, that's not one I've used, looks like a Chinese proxying/data saving browser
[2015-12-22 20:19:06] dorothy490 : summoning REKT
[2015-12-22 20:20:26] macios15 : its gona drop like mofo
[2015-12-22 20:20:49] habibi : thats what majority wants
[2015-12-22 20:31:06] zanza : cheap coinz!
[2015-12-22 20:31:21] zanza : im ready for Friday with June 2016 contract!
[2015-12-22 20:38:33] habibi : zanza: mm?
[2015-12-22 20:41:13] zanza : habibi: ya
[2015-12-22 20:41:41] zanza : ok, so that fixed my firefox, turning off hardware acceleration, I have no idea why they turn it on by defaul
[2015-12-22 20:43:34] zanza : SnP back up, glad I didn't short
[2015-12-22 20:45:59] zanza : im looking for 2080 entry price
[2015-12-22 20:46:32] zanza : let Yellen and her crew pump it up so Americans think they are having a good holiday
[2015-12-22 21:04:48] rapidtrades : zanza: did u restart browser?
[2015-12-22 21:12:02] zanza : yes
[2015-12-22 21:44:30] rapidtrades : doesn't help with the lag after finex changed layout...srsly this amateurish space is getting on my nerves
[2015-12-22 21:45:05] rapidtrades : finex is literally r*ping mu CPU atm
[2015-12-22 21:57:36] zanza : how can you tell ?
[2015-12-22 21:58:52] rapidtrades : task manager?
[2015-12-22 21:59:48] thehawthorne : stop watching porn splitview
[2015-12-22 22:08:01] zanza : is your computer fairly old?
[2015-12-22 22:08:22] zanza : maybe time to #upgrade
[2015-12-22 22:13:30] justinlooking : i'm so conflicted
[2015-12-22 22:13:55] rapidtrades : zanza: buy a computer or stop using finex?hmmm tough choice...
[2015-12-22 22:19:51] habibi : pentium 3 is not that bad cpu guys
[2015-12-22 22:20:35] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 18 @ 439.61
[2015-12-22 22:21:07] zanza : you don't need a special computer just to run Bitfinex :) what CPU do you have ?
[2015-12-22 22:24:27] TschavaTschigger : rapid runs raspberry pi A on win XP
[2015-12-22 22:33:09] zanza : Windows ME*
[2015-12-22 22:33:24] zanza : idk, was never a fan of Finex
[2015-12-22 22:33:31] zanza : too many problems i hear about there
[2015-12-22 22:33:55] sleger : zanza: what do you use to convert cash to btc ?
[2015-12-22 22:34:09] zanza : usually coinbase
[2015-12-22 22:34:49] zanza : i guess using them just to convert is OK, but for active trading, i remember their servers always break during price action
[2015-12-22 22:34:57] zanza : and people complain on reddit
[2015-12-22 22:35:27] sleger : Ok. I see 9$ spread on coinbase right now !
[2015-12-22 22:37:25] zanza : coinbase does not charge fee in EU
[2015-12-22 22:43:45] sleger : but they charge a 9% spread which is 1% fee
[2015-12-22 22:43:59] sleger : *9$ spread
[2015-12-22 22:51:55] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 350 @ 435.69
[2015-12-22 22:54:55] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 299 @ 435.71
[2015-12-22 23:04:05] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 1612 @ 436.54
[2015-12-22 23:05:19] micmix : rapidtrades: I can't use BitMEX in Firefox at all, had to switch to Chrome just for BitMEX
[2015-12-22 23:05:40] habibi : micmix: try vivaldi
[2015-12-22 23:08:12] micmix : habibi: interested, I liked Opera several years ago but never heard about Vivaldi
[2015-12-22 23:08:47] habibi : i loved that coz it doesnt refresh bookmarks with charts like chrome does
[2015-12-22 23:08:58] habibi : so they all the time in real time generating or whatever
[2015-12-22 23:09:55] habibi : i mean still using chrome for regular use but trading and charts only @vivaldi
[2015-12-22 23:12:42] micmix : i don't like chrome at all, they use their own text rendering system instead of native OS text rendering, all text looks much worse in Chrome compared to Firefox or IE on high DPI system
[2015-12-22 23:19:17] zanza : micmix: did you try disabling hardware acceleration ? seems to have fiexed problem for me
[2015-12-22 23:19:36] zanza : god knows why they have it on by default
[2015-12-22 23:21:36] REKT : Big whale detected
[2015-12-22 23:21:36] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 1 @ 437.17
[2015-12-22 23:22:39] micmix : zanza: just tried, doens't help
[2015-12-22 23:22:53] zanza : is your CPU strained? or memory full ?
[2015-12-22 23:26:15] micmix : no, it's a problem with BitMEX only, getting script timeout. Sam couldn't reproduce so I just switched to Chrome for BitMEX
[2015-12-22 23:26:29] micmix : everything else works with 0 problems in Firefox
[2015-12-22 23:29:38] laisee : micmix: > I have been seeing some issues with Firefox lately, not only on Bitmex. It will take lots of CPU and every change of Tab takes long time.
[2015-12-22 23:30:00] laisee : Need to kill F/Fox off and restart to fix the issue.
[2015-12-22 23:30:09] zanza : i think because us Bitcoin traiders, usually have LOTS of windows open, with heavy graphing/data applications
[2015-12-22 23:30:40] zanza : bitmex/tradeblock/Hypron/etc
[2015-12-22 23:44:01] micmix : I have over 50 tabs open in Firefox ATM
[2015-12-22 23:46:57] laisee : micmix: > ATHD, much?
[2015-12-22 23:48:27] micmix : laisee: what's ATHD?
[2015-12-22 23:54:38] laisee : Attention Deficit problem ... too many tabs
[2015-12-22 23:54:40] laisee : ;-)
[2015-12-22 23:55:18] cryptostephen : How much money have you guys lost so far at Bitmex?
[2015-12-22 23:57:18] laisee : in profit since starting here, with few liquidations along the way.
[2015-12-23 00:00:28] micmix : laisee: ah, ADHD :-) no, all tabs are needed, like API docs for different exchanges, 20+ tabs already
[2015-12-23 00:00:57] cryptostephen : I'm new at Bitmex. Let me ask, is there a spot on the site that can see the overall P/L since the account was created?
[2015-12-23 00:01:23] cryptostephen : like the other day i was trying to find an overall P/L on my okcoin account i've been using for 3 years. they didn't have anything like that, does Bitmex?
[2015-12-23 00:02:05] laisee : micmix: > developers get a free pass on using MAX tabs ...
[2015-12-23 00:06:21] laisee : cryptostephen: > go to https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet and dump out all your wallet transaction by clicking on "Save as CSV". You can see all the settlement amounts (profit/loss) once you import to Excel.
[2015-12-23 00:08:21] laisee : if thats no good try sending email to support.
[2015-12-23 00:15:18] cryptostephen : thanks!
[2015-12-23 00:35:07] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 17 @ 438.95
[2015-12-23 00:44:36] cryptostephen : So when I trade the 100x contracts.... help me understand what Isolate Margin means
[2015-12-23 00:48:06] HowDoge : it means your margin is isolated from your available funds. ie, your contracts are leveraged off your isolated margin
[2015-12-23 00:49:51] zanza : such advice
[2015-12-23 00:56:28] habibi : u use only needed funds to make ur position 100x ur initial value
[2015-12-23 00:59:33] laisee : kinda like betting on a horse, you are only risking the value of the bet == isolated margin.
[2015-12-23 01:00:12] laisee : whereas cross-margin you are also risking contents of your wallet as well.
[2015-12-23 01:00:56] laisee : best to try testnet first if you are learning, tho.
[2015-12-23 01:44:40] chingchong : where is testnet?
[2015-12-23 01:46:47] zanza : would be a nice feature to have a "test/demo" mode more prominent
[2015-12-23 02:01:08] BitMEX_Wally : chingchong: testnet is here https://testnet.bitmex.com/
[2015-12-23 02:02:00] zanza : oh cool thanks BitMEX_Wally
[2015-12-23 02:02:27] chingchong : t.y. wally