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[2015-12-20 17:19:02] TschavaTschigger : lol... no comment
[2015-12-20 17:20:05] wurstgelee : i couldn't comment it even if i wanted to
[2015-12-20 17:22:49] zanza : rapidtrades: if you prefer cascading margin calls, why do you trade here?
[2015-12-20 17:23:20] chromaticcr : still too thin to catch a 100k+ contract call, which happened
[2015-12-20 17:32:32] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1 @ 443.77
[2015-12-20 17:32:32] REKT : Big whale detected
[2015-12-20 17:36:50] wurstgelee : duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuump
[2015-12-20 17:36:52] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1000 @ 442.16
[2015-12-20 17:37:42] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 4208 @ 436.03
[2015-12-20 17:38:02] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 862 @ 437.82
[2015-12-20 17:39:12] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 2000 @ 436.86
[2015-12-20 17:39:32] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 96 @ 436.00
[2015-12-20 17:39:52] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 47500 @ 440.85 <b>EPIC REKT</b>
[2015-12-20 17:39:58] jesperf : wow, this is going deep
[2015-12-20 17:40:01] chrisxbt : Epic rekt
[2015-12-20 17:41:36] chrisxbt : that got gobbled up
[2015-12-20 17:41:56] habibi : who da fuk bought it :D
[2015-12-20 17:42:06] habibi : good luck, hope he closed short
[2015-12-20 17:42:18] j8 : closed 80% of my short
[2015-12-20 17:42:19] itmikeyg : 20 million dolllars?
[2015-12-20 17:46:02] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 35053 @ 431.99 <b>MEGA-REKT</b>
[2015-12-20 17:53:46] sleger : damn, missed that one
[2015-12-20 17:54:42] wurstgelee : that dump?
[2015-12-20 17:55:00] wurstgelee : more blood soon i guess
[2015-12-20 17:55:23] wurstgelee : but dunno, so sideline now
[2015-12-20 17:56:12] sleger : no the mega rekt @ 432
[2015-12-20 17:56:41] itmikeyg : is that dude really trading with near 20 million dollars?
[2015-12-20 17:57:24] chrisxbt : you're doing some math wrong
[2015-12-20 17:57:32] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 2000 @ 431.57
[2015-12-20 17:58:42] jesperf : why are we trading at a discount?
[2015-12-20 17:59:09] wurstgelee : lol, serious question?
[2015-12-20 17:59:22] habibi : bear time
[2015-12-20 17:59:22] chrisxbt : because its bearish
[2015-12-20 17:59:24] habibi : bear sentiment
[2015-12-20 17:59:44] TschavaTschigger : price fell 25 bucks, maybe that's why
[2015-12-20 17:59:44] irbbqu : coz panic
[2015-12-20 17:59:52] TschavaTschigger : but not sure
[2015-12-20 17:59:56] gustavo7 : hm no DPE yet despite liquidations
[2015-12-20 18:00:00] cekseh : Because this is not spot, it is futures
[2015-12-20 18:00:07] cekseh : futures means something
[2015-12-20 18:00:11] cekseh : =D
[2015-12-20 18:00:16] irbbqu : Hehe
[2015-12-20 18:00:16] habibi : futures show futures
[2015-12-20 18:00:20] habibi : i mean they willing to :D
[2015-12-20 18:02:43] itmikeyg : so how much usd is rekt trading with
[2015-12-20 18:03:34] sleger : itmikeyg: no $, only btc
[2015-12-20 18:03:49] itmikeyg : but what does it relate to in usd
[2015-12-20 18:04:01] sleger : itmikeyg: it's hard to say, because price changes fast, especially today
[2015-12-20 18:04:10] sleger : guys, I believe we have a new star here...
[2015-12-20 18:04:20] itmikeyg : i just joined 5 minutes ago bro
[2015-12-20 18:04:34] itmikeyg : not new to bitcoin though, you can believe that partner
[2015-12-20 18:04:40] sleger : doesnt take long to identigy superstars :)
[2015-12-20 18:04:44] sleger : *identify
[2015-12-20 18:05:03] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 500 @ 432.03
[2015-12-20 18:05:03] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 585 @ 432.07
[2015-12-20 18:05:35] itmikeyg : sleger: are you saying I'm a superstar?
[2015-12-20 18:05:42] sleger : exactly yes
[2015-12-20 18:05:43] REKT : Liquidated long on XBTZ15: Sell 4000 @ 437.26
[2015-12-20 18:05:50] itmikeyg : Im flattered
[2015-12-20 18:08:32] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 98 @ 433.72
[2015-12-20 18:09:20] kingscrown : easy money on shorts https://twitter.com/kingscrownBTC/status/678637515205713920
[2015-12-20 18:09:45] habibi : rekt of bots again here :D
[2015-12-20 18:09:48] chromaticcr : REKTin hell, REKTin hell, REKTin all the way~
[2015-12-20 18:10:53] habibi : kingscrown: show proof that u made any money u liar :D
[2015-12-20 18:11:30] gustavo7 : wheres the rebound
[2015-12-20 18:11:54] itmikeyg : Does anybody here actually make any money?
[2015-12-20 18:12:02] sleger : only me
[2015-12-20 18:12:12] sleger : its a futures exchange, so what do you think ?
[2015-12-20 18:12:17] habibi : only me sorry
[2015-12-20 18:12:19] itmikeyg : i think not
[2015-12-20 18:12:22] habibi : last three days was loosing some
[2015-12-20 18:12:25] sleger : i think you're wrong
[2015-12-20 18:12:29] jesperf : no, no, it's actually only me
[2015-12-20 18:12:31] sleger : since users trade against each other...
[2015-12-20 18:12:41] sleger : besides fees, zero sum game
[2015-12-20 18:12:51] sleger : I said we have a new superstar here ;)
[2015-12-20 18:12:54] itmikeyg : what is the fee btw?
[2015-12-20 18:13:03] sleger : it is what the exchange takes
[2015-12-20 18:13:08] sleger : also known as commission
[2015-12-20 18:13:09] itmikeyg : jesus sleger
[2015-12-20 18:13:11] sleger : real superstar :)
[2015-12-20 18:13:23] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 2000 @ 435.29
[2015-12-20 18:13:27] itmikeyg : stop using the smily face your really creeping me out
[2015-12-20 18:13:44] itmikeyg : i mean what is the fee
[2015-12-20 18:13:55] habibi : 0.075% if u taking from market
[2015-12-20 18:13:55] sleger : :p there i'm licking you now, feeling better ?
[2015-12-20 18:14:06] itmikeyg : no i feel a lot worse
[2015-12-20 18:14:33] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 8 @ 436.62
[2015-12-20 18:14:35] sleger : I can guess the next question coming ...
[2015-12-20 18:15:00] itmikeyg : guess it because i don't even know what it is
[2015-12-20 18:15:24] sleger : Dont you want to ask @habibi something like : "well, but dont everyone "take" from market ?"
[2015-12-20 18:15:52] itmikeyg : well does he mean if the contract expires?
[2015-12-20 18:16:03] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 300 @ 438.41
[2015-12-20 18:16:23] sleger : no settlement fees is 0.05%
[2015-12-20 18:17:22] itmikeyg : Trollbox
[2015-12-20 18:17:54] sleger : Bitcoin
[2015-12-20 18:18:01] sleger : making full sentences usually help.
[2015-12-20 18:18:35] itmikeyg : Swegway
[2015-12-20 18:20:13] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 2029 @ 436.43
[2015-12-20 18:21:53] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 4000 @ 435.92
[2015-12-20 18:23:14] gustavo7 : any staff online?
[2015-12-20 18:23:31] BitMEX_Arthur : Hi
[2015-12-20 18:23:46] gustavo7 : quick question, will there be a new XBU contract?
[2015-12-20 18:24:16] BitMEX_Arthur : For the time being probably not until we have interest from market makers
[2015-12-20 18:24:52] itmikeyg : Interdesting, i was just watching your video about btc arbitrage trading on youtube, Arthur
[2015-12-20 18:25:10] gustavo7 : that's too sad
[2015-12-20 18:26:22] gustavo7 : my current strategy is to hedge my exact account worth and then still use leverage to trade the daily both ways
[2015-12-20 18:26:48] chromaticcr : @itmikeyg you can have a look at blog.bitmex.com too, there are plenty of articles about arbitrage
[2015-12-20 18:28:42] gustavo7 : as i understand the curve of XBT is not as intuitive for hedging
[2015-12-20 18:29:03] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 108 @ 437.53
[2015-12-20 18:29:35] BitMEX_Arthur : gustavo7: The XBT series is not meant for hedging
[2015-12-20 18:29:44] itmikeyg : Does anyone know of exchanges where you can buy btc/cny and also usd/btc
[2015-12-20 18:30:01] justinlooking : praise be to cheapies
[2015-12-20 18:30:12] gustavo7 : exactly i know i want to keep my account worth in $ while away
[2015-12-20 18:30:32] rapidtrades : I agree, thumbs down for the XBU removal
[2015-12-20 18:31:04] rapidtrades : I'm currently hedged on okc but once that expires I planned to partially hedge here, cos no clawback
[2015-12-20 18:32:40] j8 : it's just not very useful in it's current state
[2015-12-20 18:33:03] BitMEX_Arthur : There is no liquidity, most of our clients would rather trade `XBT24H`
[2015-12-20 18:33:07] chromaticcr : only if you can get your order filled...
[2015-12-20 18:44:47] lockhedge : Tradeblock can't read the Bitfinex API again, anyone else experience issues? (REST works fine for me)
[2015-12-20 18:45:29] j8 : lockhedge: i have websocket coming in ok
[2015-12-20 18:47:53] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT7D: Buy 2000 @ 444.28
[2015-12-20 18:47:53] REKT : Have a bowl of chop-chop suey
[2015-12-20 18:47:55] Swedishnut : I think we are heading back to 444. then 450 after a dip to 439. my guess
[2015-12-20 18:48:20] lockhedge : Bitfinex price just jumped from 434 to 441 on TB
[2015-12-20 18:49:10] Swedishnut : yeah looks like the market is reacting to "Cheap" coin
[2015-12-20 18:49:29] Swedishnut : under 3000 Yuans I guess
[2015-12-20 18:50:37] Swedishnut : ether falls as btc rises
[2015-12-20 18:50:42] zanza : BTFD /blink
[2015-12-20 18:51:36] justinlooking : still fancy 300?
[2015-12-20 18:56:33] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1 @ 443.76
[2015-12-20 18:57:19] Swedishnut : yeah looks like the mthere is the diparket is reacting to "Cheap" coin
[2015-12-20 18:58:20] Swedishnut : weird. new sentence I typed was placed in old comment.
[2015-12-20 19:02:23] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1000 @ 441.30
[2015-12-20 19:10:25] rapidtrades : China is still to expensive $14
[2015-12-20 19:10:36] sleger : $11
[2015-12-20 19:10:52] rapidtrades : $14
[2015-12-20 19:12:35] sleger : yeah ok you use wrong usdcny conversion
[2015-12-20 19:12:45] sleger : rate
[2015-12-20 19:12:54] rapidtrades : loool
[2015-12-20 19:14:02] sleger : which wrong source do you use ?
[2015-12-20 19:14:24] wurstgelee : its $11
[2015-12-20 19:14:41] wurstgelee : or ~ $10 to finex
[2015-12-20 19:14:43] sleger : yes of course it is, let's figure out where it went wrong this time
[2015-12-20 19:14:47] wurstgelee : hehe
[2015-12-20 19:14:54] j8 : okcoin is still stuck on 6.4375, i'm guessing it's that
[2015-12-20 19:15:03] sleger : for reference it was 440.4 on bfx and 2925 on cny spot exchanges
[2015-12-20 19:15:18] sleger : rapidtrades: which wrong source do you use ?
[2015-12-20 19:15:54] sleger : alright 0kcoin is official exchange rate I guess, someone please let bank of china know they need to adjust their rate LOL
[2015-12-20 19:17:02] rapidtrades : how often does okc adjust it? weekly?
[2015-12-20 19:17:07] sleger : LOL
[2015-12-20 19:17:12] sleger : admit you are wrong at least
[2015-12-20 19:18:05] j8 : rapidtrades: it's a bizarre system, it adjusts to the 2 week average every week after settlement (if the adjustment is more than 0.2%)
[2015-12-20 19:18:22] sleger : and next time check few times your source before trying to correct me "rapidtrades: China is still to expensive $14 xx:10 - sleger: $11 xx:10 - rapidtrades: $14"
[2015-12-20 19:18:53] rapidtrades : sleger: u don't have any friends, do u?
[2015-12-20 19:19:32] sleger : nothing to do with the conversation... admit you were wrong believe me, that's only how you may progress in life
[2015-12-20 19:20:17] rapidtrades : I wasn't wrong, it was $14 on the source I looked at
[2015-12-20 19:20:37] wurstgelee : 20:15 - sleger: rapidtrades: which wrong source do you use ?
[2015-12-20 19:20:39] sleger : wow, you werent wrong, so I guess we should let the world know that 11=14
[2015-12-20 19:20:42] rapidtrades : besides it's not like any of us can trade the Yuan and for the Chinese, the Central Bank is more valid
[2015-12-20 19:20:53] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 21 @ 439.45
[2015-12-20 19:21:59] sleger : rapidtrades: and for the chinese the central bank says... ?
[2015-12-20 19:22:15] sleger : http://www.boc.cn/sourcedb/whpj/enindex.HTML
[2015-12-20 19:22:19] sleger : tada 6.48 lol
[2015-12-20 19:22:33] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 100 @ 439.10
[2015-12-20 19:22:41] sleger : so $11 premium. but as you said 11=14 so 14$ premium is also correct
[2015-12-20 19:25:34] sleger : rapidtrades: I have a question. Is 22 also equal to 28 or is it more like 15=19 ? Just wondering to figure out how to communicate better in the future
[2015-12-20 19:25:38] habibi : again 154k contracts
[2015-12-20 19:25:43] habibi : in case of futher dropping like under 430
[2015-12-20 19:25:49] habibi : we get freakin dpe probally again :(
[2015-12-20 19:26:03] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1390 @ 437.95
[2015-12-20 19:34:11] zanza : habibi: what?
[2015-12-20 19:34:29] zanza : DPE happens mostly on very quick spikes
[2015-12-20 19:35:02] zanza : when MM's can't eat is fast enough
[2015-12-20 19:38:36] sleger : If I had $1 for everytime I was right against rapidtrades I would have $110, or maybe $140, oh wait, it's the same number as well :)
[2015-12-20 19:39:19] wurstgelee : lol :D
[2015-12-20 19:39:24] habibi : rapidtrades: how much loss today?
[2015-12-20 19:41:21] sleger : habibi: you mean besides basic math ?
[2015-12-20 19:44:54] CryptyMike : hello all
[2015-12-20 19:45:11] CryptyMike : First time here on Bitmex....see whats up with this 100x leverage
[2015-12-20 19:46:05] TschavaTschigger : rapid looked at okc USD and sleger on okc CNY?
[2015-12-20 19:48:27] sleger : noooooo
[2015-12-20 19:48:53] sleger : rapidtrades: China is still to expensive $14 sleger: $11 rapidtrades: $14
[2015-12-20 19:49:00] CryptyMike : so 100x leverage
[2015-12-20 19:49:05] CryptyMike : if the market moves 1% against your call
[2015-12-20 19:49:12] sleger : "sleger: for reference it was 440.4 on bfx and 2925 on cny spot exchanges"
[2015-12-20 19:49:26] sleger : CryptyMike: no 0.5%
[2015-12-20 19:49:40] CryptyMike : sleger: ah yeah .5
[2015-12-20 19:49:44] CryptyMike : so .5% against your call
[2015-12-20 19:49:49] CryptyMike : it autosell on you in the market?
[2015-12-20 19:49:50] TschavaTschigger : yeah, but did rapid look at the okc-USD price or did he calculate CNY to USD?
[2015-12-20 19:49:57] sleger : "rapidtrades: I wasn't wrong, it was $14 on the source I looked at"
[2015-12-20 19:50:06] sleger : he looked at some conversion price on okcoin website
[2015-12-20 19:50:13] sleger : as if that was the universal reference
[2015-12-20 19:50:33] sleger : and concluded "rapidtrades: I wasn't wrong, it was $14 on the source I looked at"
[2015-12-20 19:50:34] TschavaTschigger : he most likely just looked at the okc-USD price, which is an entirely different market
[2015-12-20 19:50:46] sleger : so from now on 11=14 with him
[2015-12-20 19:50:53] j8 : it's the rate okc uses to settle futures, so arguably it matters to bitcoin
[2015-12-20 19:51:07] sleger : to 0kcoin
[2015-12-20 19:51:24] habibi : hm i just got dropped session here
[2015-12-20 19:51:27] habibi : anyone else got it?
[2015-12-20 19:51:52] sleger : no
[2015-12-20 19:52:13] sleger : CryptyMike: yes at 0.5% against you if you have isolate margin mode ON
[2015-12-20 19:52:36] habibi : anyway Kingscrow nice fake with buying BLTMEX.com domain, BlTMEX.com looks hard to find real
[2015-12-20 19:55:56] rapidtrades : You know half the time I glance at the chat, there's someone talking about me...It's almost flattering the amount of energy some ppl in this chat waste...I feel like a mini-celebrity
[2015-12-20 19:56:18] TschavaTschigger : rapidtrades: what source do you look at to get your $14?
[2015-12-20 19:56:25] TschavaTschigger : did*
[2015-12-20 19:56:29] habibi : canadian dollars maybe
[2015-12-20 19:58:33] sleger : rapidtrades: you are a mini celibrity, the same way homer simpson is.
[2015-12-20 20:05:18] zanza : bLtmex lmao
[2015-12-20 20:11:19] jesperf : bacon, lettuce, tomato?
[2015-12-20 20:11:39] uiop : banga, lettuce, tomato
[2015-12-20 20:12:13] wurstgelee : no cheese? :/
[2015-12-20 20:19:50] justinlooking : only lem
[2015-12-20 20:21:57] wurstgelee : :(
[2015-12-20 20:24:04] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 356 @ 443.51
[2015-12-20 20:24:04] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead
[2015-12-20 20:25:15] jesperf : unzip your pants, it's REKKING TIME
[2015-12-20 20:26:23] wurstgelee : not enough longs open, some shorts rekt first i guess ;)
[2015-12-20 20:32:54] ayy lmao : rapidtrades
[2015-12-20 20:32:55] ayy lmao : can i get your autograph
[2015-12-20 20:57:44] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1029 @ 440.79
[2015-12-20 21:00:04] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 25 @ 439.60
[2015-12-20 21:00:57] chrisxbt : how come my chart says Loss: -0.0001XBT [-2] . This is on the tradingview chart.
[2015-12-20 21:03:13] BitMEX_Sam : This means you have a position of -2 contracts (short 2 contracts) and the current PNL is -0.0001 XBT.
[2015-12-20 21:03:43] BitMEX_Sam : If you'd like to turn that off, you can right-click the chart and click "Disable Position Display".
[2015-12-20 21:04:31] sleger : big balls there !
[2015-12-20 21:04:54] habibi : he is learning market
[2015-12-20 21:05:19] dr.rock : sleger carries his balls in a wheel barrow
[2015-12-20 21:05:52] sleger : not very convenient to board the plane but what can I do ...
[2015-12-20 21:07:38] Swedishnut : I picture Randy from SouthPark http://i.imgur.com/ToyhJ.jpg
[2015-12-20 21:08:36] chrisxbt : BitMEX_Sam: hah I just noticed it. Never knew you had that feature
[2015-12-20 21:11:52] chrisxbt : I had a bit of my position left from my close 4 hours ago.
[2015-12-20 22:04:44] jesperf : bitcoin themesong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FiONmoFt48
[2015-12-20 22:19:04] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: Am i completely missing something or is the "order value" as shown in the order controls wrong? I mean, the calculation is off slightly
[2015-12-20 22:19:29] BitMEX_Sam : I don't believe so, what are you seeing?
[2015-12-20 22:19:46] TschavaTschigger : I understand it, as the tooltip suggests, as the notional value of the order = quantity * notional value of one contract
[2015-12-20 22:20:05] TschavaTschigger : oh wait my bad
[2015-12-20 22:25:11] TschavaTschigger : you guys read this? https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3xksss/coinbase_bans_me_after_i_help_them_fix_major/
[2015-12-20 22:27:45] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 929 @ 441.38
[2015-12-20 22:28:26] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah was just reading it.
[2015-12-20 22:31:33] jesperf : so many self-righteous brogrammers thinking they deserve to be showered in gold
[2015-12-20 22:31:57] habibi : i think the problem is he cant withdraw that 5k even right?
[2015-12-20 22:34:34] jesperf : no, I don't think he got paid to his coinbase account
[2015-12-20 22:35:30] rapidtrades : ''they paid me only 5k''
[2015-12-20 22:35:32] rapidtrades : QQ more
[2015-12-20 22:35:43] jesperf : he was just greedy and angry
[2015-12-20 22:38:53] habibi : he could easily sell that as 0 day on black market for way more probally
[2015-12-20 22:39:05] jung1 : I have christmats gift for you http://www.cabafx.com/trading-ebooks-collection/newpdf/
[2015-12-20 22:39:15] wurstgelee : or could have exploited the bug to withdraw
[2015-12-20 22:39:38] rapidtrades : coinbase says it wasn't withdrawable
[2015-12-20 22:40:03] wurstgelee : the screenshots suggest otherwise...but maybe they are fake
[2015-12-20 22:40:04] habibi : they can say that as long as he didnt actual withdraw exploited coins
[2015-12-20 22:40:06] habibi : so yes
[2015-12-20 22:41:29] BitMEX_Sam : Well, it appears he could cause a negative balance, but there were checks in place to prevent a withdrawal
[2015-12-20 22:42:32] jesperf : jung1: aint nobody got time for that
[2015-12-20 22:43:08] jung1 : jesperf: tl:dr Buy high, sell low. Stay classy
[2015-12-20 22:46:13] jesperf : jung1: ;) is it your collection?
[2015-12-20 22:47:04] jung1 : part of now. Found it and though that could be usefull for you
[2015-12-20 22:48:36] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 100 @ 441.82
[2015-12-20 22:49:34] TschavaTschigger : LMAO.... I just thought something I saw on reddit a few months ago... a website that programs itself, it was brilliant and on the reddit frontpage
[2015-12-20 22:49:47] TschavaTschigger : I just realized the coder was BitMEX_Sam
[2015-12-20 22:50:17] TschavaTschigger : For anyone interested: http://strml.net/
[2015-12-20 22:51:20] BitMEX_Sam : :)
[2015-12-20 22:52:10] jung1 : nice
[2015-12-20 22:52:15] TschavaTschigger : absolutely outstanding. like your work on bitmex btw.
[2015-12-20 22:52:27] habibi : first impression: shieeet we dont have that much money for this guy
[2015-12-20 22:53:07] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: btw what about dynamic stop losses?
[2015-12-20 22:53:38] BitMEX_Sam : We're focusing on OCO first, but we've been doing some less user-facing work the last few weeks.
[2015-12-20 22:56:08] uiop : jung1: what do you mean by a "dynamic" stop loss?
[2015-12-20 22:57:02] uiop : like a stop-limit where the limit order follows the market if the market pulls away a given threshold amount or something (like a pegged order)?
[2015-12-20 22:57:14] jung1 : that will change automaticly. When price will go up for 2$, stop loss will go up for 1.5
[2015-12-20 22:57:20] jung1 : yep
[2015-12-20 22:57:41] uiop : oh, you mean trailing stop i guess
[2015-12-20 22:58:09] uiop : so the stop-limit's trigger price is changing, not the price of the limit order once the stop has been triggered
[2015-12-20 22:59:12] jung1 : stop loss that change automaticly and stay for example 15% below current price. If price will go up sl will go as well but if price will fall position will be closed
[2015-12-20 22:59:44] uiop : jung1: right, a trailing stop
[2015-12-20 22:59:51] jung1 : with this one bitmex will be ultimate money maker site heh
[2015-12-20 23:00:11] jung1 : oh didnt know that its called trailing
[2015-12-20 23:00:43] wurstgelee : jung1: dont forget everyone can use those tools so it wont get easier to win ;)
[2015-12-20 23:04:31] j8 : it's something that bots can already do so it levels the field a bit
[2015-12-20 23:55:45] jesperf : what the butt is going on with 14-bot
[2015-12-20 23:56:30] TschavaTschigger : hahaha sure that's $14-rapidtrades
[2015-12-20 23:56:40] habibi : nah too much trades
[2015-12-20 23:56:50] Swedishnut : I dunno bots do botty things
[2015-12-20 23:57:36] TschavaTschigger : i'm off, cya tomorrow
[2015-12-20 23:57:46] jesperf : cya
[2015-12-20 23:59:17] sleger : jesperf: 14 or 11 ?
[2015-12-21 00:00:24] sleger : or is it the same thing ?
[2015-12-21 00:02:54] jesperf : sleger: someone/something placed a lot of consecutive orders of 14 contracts
[2015-12-21 00:03:00] wurstgelee : sleger: hahahaha :D
[2015-12-21 00:04:09] jesperf : maybe i'm being wooshed by some joke i'm ignorant to :P
[2015-12-21 00:05:17] wurstgelee : jesperf: reference to earlier rapidtrades
[2015-12-21 00:06:47] sleger : he explained why 11 = 14
[2015-12-21 00:07:00] jesperf : ;)
[2015-12-21 00:08:04] sleger : but he then refused to explain if as a corrolary 22=24 or if 15=18
[2015-12-21 00:08:29] sleger : when you see him around you cant miss him
[2015-12-21 00:10:01] jesperf : aha he was buying 11 on 7D and 14 on 24H
[2015-12-21 00:10:34] jesperf : we shall not question the ways of rapidtrades
[2015-12-21 00:10:45] sleger : no he was explaining that the premium on cny vs usd was 14, i told him no, 11, he insisted 14
[2015-12-21 00:10:57] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 400 @ 440.29
[2015-12-21 00:11:37] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 2020 @ 439.79
[2015-12-21 00:11:53] jesperf : dump incoming
[2015-12-21 00:11:54] sleger : so I asked him which wrong exchange rate he was looking at, and then he went away for a bit, in the meantime I explained bank of china, etc and he kind of said he was looking at some 0kcoin exchange rate which was way off
[2015-12-21 00:12:00] gustavo7 : herewego
[2015-12-21 00:12:04] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-12-21 00:12:17] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 133 @ 438.04
[2015-12-21 00:12:22] sleger : but he argued that he was right because he was using some other rate, so since he was right but the right answer was 11, we concluded that 11=14
[2015-12-21 00:13:09] sleger : I'll be on a 10 hours flight soon so it would be great if you could stop the market while im away, thanks
[2015-12-21 00:14:49] wurstgelee : no flight with internet connection? ;)
[2015-12-21 00:15:16] sleger : rare on such long flights
[2015-12-21 00:15:33] Swedishnut : np sledger I'll hook up that Pause Option that I've been holding onto next to my time machine and complete book on the meaning of life :)
[2015-12-21 00:16:02] sleger : Swedishnut: Thanks !! Dont forget the infinite passage about rapidtrades maths logic
[2015-12-21 00:16:51] Swedishnut : Ahh yes he has his own book in the BTC Bible I believe it is near the beginning of the Blockateuch
[2015-12-21 00:19:22] jesperf : trading is hard
[2015-12-21 00:19:43] sleger : nah it's soft
[2015-12-21 00:19:50] jesperf : sideways leaves me petrified and sudden volatility also leaves me petrified
[2015-12-21 00:20:12] sleger : the bots like to gently carrress you softly
[2015-12-21 00:20:32] jesperf : but then i will get hard
[2015-12-21 00:20:51] sleger : you're into bots ?
[2015-12-21 00:21:08] sleger : too bad you're probably 10-20 years early on this earth
[2015-12-21 00:21:20] sleger : who knows how many years that is in rapidtrades maths...
[2015-12-21 00:21:26] jesperf : sexbots will be a thing very soon
[2015-12-21 00:21:30] Swedishnut : Think dog years :P
[2015-12-21 00:21:57] sleger : yes but they wont be like real humans for 10-20 years I'd say
[2015-12-21 00:22:08] sleger : then they will be better most likely
[2015-12-21 00:22:44] sleger : they will probably cost 10 satohis a night though
[2015-12-21 00:24:18] jesperf : advanced war ai combined with the conquest for authentic looking sexbots
[2015-12-21 00:24:21] jesperf : there we have it
[2015-12-21 00:24:22] jesperf : skynet
[2015-12-21 00:24:49] sleger : the premium cny is 12, that's between 11 and 14, I dont know what to do, it's like in a blackhole
[2015-12-21 00:24:59] jesperf : we will all be dead and fucked by bots in 20 years :P
[2015-12-21 00:26:30] sleger : the food in the lounge is disappointing today, not even fois gras although its almost xmas
[2015-12-21 00:26:49] jesperf : fois gras is fucked up man
[2015-12-21 00:27:48] sleger : who doesnt love foie gras
[2015-12-21 00:27:56] jesperf : how about geese
[2015-12-21 00:28:06] sleger : the champagne is just laurent perrier, basic....
[2015-12-21 00:28:22] sleger : you can make foie gras with duck, if you prefer to keep geese for other nightly activities
[2015-12-21 00:28:25] jesperf : pure and evil torture
[2015-12-21 00:28:27] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 500 @ 435.65
[2015-12-21 00:28:27] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 500 @ 435.62
[2015-12-21 00:28:59] sleger : jesperf: you eat chicken ?
[2015-12-21 00:29:31] jesperf : i don't eat animals
[2015-12-21 00:29:37] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 50 @ 435.09
[2015-12-21 00:31:47] gustavo7 : dat dcb
[2015-12-21 00:32:00] sleger : jesperf: alright, respect that
[2015-12-21 00:32:59] sleger : but most people eat chicken, and eggs and this is very close to the torture that happens to very few geese to make foie gras, which is infinitely better than plain chicken.
[2015-12-21 00:34:35] jesperf : I understand that people will always eat animals, but if they would stop doing it in torturous ways and less driven by greed, I would be more okay with it
[2015-12-21 00:35:19] sleger : I respect your view. Just saying that foie gras isnt too far off from general mass production of food. (cf movie samsara for instance)
[2015-12-21 00:35:33] gustavo7 : lol outsmarted a bot
[2015-12-21 00:37:05] jesperf : and from my point of view there are humane ways of raising chicken for their meat and no humane way of making foie gras
[2015-12-21 00:38:56] sleger : some human eat themselves to death, I'm sure if we give geese nice enough TVs we might convince them to do the same
[2015-12-21 00:39:48] jesperf : and 14 = 11 too :)
[2015-12-21 00:39:49] gustavo7 : some alcohol addiction would help too
[2015-12-21 00:40:29] sleger : I'm sure geese can understand that 11 is not 14
[2015-12-21 00:41:02] gustavo7 : they only want 11 but get 14...
[2015-12-21 00:41:09] jesperf : most living things do
[2015-12-21 00:41:29] gustavo7 : scnr
[2015-12-21 00:42:07] jesperf : all right, enough trolling for today. enjoy your basic champagne and long flight, mr sleger
[2015-12-21 00:42:55] sleger : cheers
[2015-12-21 00:43:34] Swedishnut : /tip hat to Sledger and wish you a well and hassle free flight
[2015-12-21 00:56:07] REKT : Big whale detected
[2015-12-21 00:56:07] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1 @ 431.83
[2015-12-21 00:56:27] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 10 @ 431.13
[2015-12-21 00:57:07] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 5662 @ 433.02
[2015-12-21 00:57:27] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 4865 @ 426.91
[2015-12-21 00:59:17] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 19000 @ 425.92 <b>MEGA-REKT</b>
[2015-12-21 01:29:45] jung1 : ouch
[2015-12-21 01:30:11] habibi : goood night
[2015-12-21 01:30:13] habibi : great one
[2015-12-21 01:30:56] jung1 : racja
[2015-12-21 01:32:03] jung1 : chyba polecimy jeszcze
[2015-12-21 01:32:28] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 2001 @ 428.80
[2015-12-21 01:32:28] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 110 @ 428.73
[2015-12-21 01:33:43] rapidtrades : still no clawback here or at okc...I like this controlled demolition process
[2015-12-21 01:33:54] habibi : free money my friend
[2015-12-21 01:40:28] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 1 @ 430.65
[2015-12-21 02:22:27] rapidtrades : when knows when will okc adjust the Yuan exchange rate?
[2015-12-21 02:22:37] habibi : whaat
[2015-12-21 02:22:40] rapidtrades : ffs chat...
[2015-12-21 02:22:51] rapidtrades : anyone knows when will okc adjust the Yuan exchange rate?
[2015-12-21 02:23:04] habibi : its on premium now?
[2015-12-21 02:23:04] stevelim : friday after settlment
[2015-12-21 02:23:20] rapidtrades : so we'll settle based on the current rate then?
[2015-12-21 02:23:26] stevelim : yes
[2015-12-21 02:23:31] rapidtrades : f.ck
[2015-12-21 02:23:37] stevelim : they update it once a week
[2015-12-21 02:23:44] habibi : rapidtrades get rekt again
[2015-12-21 02:23:46] habibi : shieeet
[2015-12-21 02:24:23] rapidtrades : stevelim: thanks
[2015-12-21 02:25:11] stevelim : you're welcome. and they update it with 2 weeks avg.
[2015-12-21 02:57:20] rapidtrades : is okcoin usd spot not executed on first in first executed?
[2015-12-21 03:04:32] micmix : rapidtrades: first in first executed with front running for special ppl :-)
[2015-12-21 03:07:20] rapidtrades : are u kidding? cos I noticed some funny bizniz
[2015-12-21 03:08:05] micmix : no kidding, they have front running bots
[2015-12-21 03:08:31] rapidtrades : I hit a bid and my ask was first...but smone came on top of me and his order got eaten up first...either that or he faked it but that seems less likely
[2015-12-21 03:10:29] rapidtrades : basically I hit a bid. got partial fill, the rest stayed at the ask but smone got executed before me
[2015-12-21 03:13:04] micmix : well you weren't expecting a fair play at okc, were you?
[2015-12-21 03:13:43] rapidtrades : ....
[2015-12-21 03:14:30] micmix : they run in-house bots, trade on their own exchange using info about everyone's positions, stops etc.
[2015-12-21 03:14:47] rapidtrades : what...
[2015-12-21 03:15:02] micmix : you didn't know that?
[2015-12-21 03:15:24] rapidtrades : no? I heard the rumors
[2015-12-21 03:16:25] rapidtrades : how do u know it's true?
[2015-12-21 03:18:36] micmix : rumors confirmed by couple of people who used to work on okc
[2015-12-21 03:19:16] rapidtrades : right...who then went on to work for the competition
[2015-12-21 03:20:29] rapidtrades : that execution was shady as f*ck though...I'll email them and see if they will credit me the difference
[2015-12-21 03:20:38] rapidtrades : pricks
[2015-12-21 03:21:45] rapidtrades : micmix: do u know if I can pull up recent trades by api or smth? the site only shows 20-30 recent ones
[2015-12-21 03:23:48] micmix : you can see more trades on https://www.okcoin.com/account/record.do, click 2+ days next to the filter
[2015-12-21 03:24:20] rapidtrades : no I didn't mean mine
[2015-12-21 03:24:47] rapidtrades : I want to go back when I got executed
[2015-12-21 03:25:01] rapidtrades : and see wtf happened
[2015-12-21 03:29:51] micmix : well there is a trade history API but it requires authorization so you can't just look at it in the browser
[2015-12-21 03:33:08] rapidtrades : can u check for me if I give u the time/price
[2015-12-21 03:34:41] micmix : sorry, I don't have the code to pull the trades from the API, we never had to use it
[2015-12-21 03:37:09] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 20 @ 433.12
[2015-12-21 03:37:13] rapidtrades : I have a feeling there will be a major crackdown here....like we had in forex few years back
[2015-12-21 03:38:38] rapidtrades : similar situation...bunch of shady characters running shady exchanges
[2015-12-21 03:41:14] habibi : like we had in bitcoin 2 years ago?
[2015-12-21 03:41:44] micmix : it's unregulated market, of course ppl will do all kind of shady stuff to make money
[2015-12-21 04:52:28] rapidtrades : okc spot on steroids...smone's busy cashing out?
[2015-12-21 05:03:02] zanza : you should make an exchange rapidtrades
[2015-12-21 05:11:01] habibi : that would be something
[2015-12-21 05:23:53] 24hourz : the market is spooked. We are actually at a negative premium here
[2015-12-21 05:38:05] dr.rock : krampus strikes back
[2015-12-21 05:54:40] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 60 @ 434.52
[2015-12-21 06:03:33] dr.rock : I got an awesome sound...going down
[2015-12-21 07:36:34] ethexio : @BitMEX_*: Should probably remove Haasbot endorsement from https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/orderbook-grouping-api-key-interface/ . It's been over a month since API key interface and Haas still uses email/pass as authentication, and 90% of the BitMEX functionality is not working as well.
[2015-12-21 09:02:54] justinlooking : ethexio: you've done better than me if you managed to get 10% working!
[2015-12-21 09:26:18] rapidtrades : not much chatting today huh
[2015-12-21 09:26:32] rapidtrades : everyone busto or at their J.O.B.?
[2015-12-21 09:28:14] rapidtrades : I work a 9-5 but I moonlight as a bitcoin traded: 99.9% of this chat
[2015-12-21 10:32:49] laisee : it's pretty slow at the 7-11 today
[2015-12-21 10:35:46] TschavaTschigger : rapidtrades: what's your job?
[2015-12-21 10:36:53] micmix : ppl had enough excitement for one day I guess
[2015-12-21 10:38:34] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 509 @ 437.18
[2015-12-21 10:39:06] micmix : REKT is working hard today :-)
[2015-12-21 10:43:20] rapidtrades : micmix: yeah bit shocking we got out with clawback....makes me think the worst is yet to come
[2015-12-21 10:43:36] rapidtrades : *without clawback
[2015-12-21 10:45:06] micmix : no, I doubt we'll get any significant action before the settlement. actually clawbacks are very rare here. I've seen maybe 4? total
[2015-12-21 10:45:22] rapidtrades : TschavaTschigger: this is my job
[2015-12-21 10:45:52] TschavaTschigger : rapidtrades: thought so
[2015-12-21 10:46:13] micmix : professional trollboxer, pays really well ;-)
[2015-12-21 10:46:43] TschavaTschigger : micmix: you don't trade on chinese do you?
[2015-12-21 10:46:50] TschavaTschigger : chinese exchanges*
[2015-12-21 10:47:28] micmix : I have bots on most exchanges, but I don't trade manually except long-term futures
[2015-12-21 10:48:34] TschavaTschigger : micmix: you got bots at Chinese exchanges? isn't the connection horrendous? I mean, websocket of okc.cn goes ham every few hours
[2015-12-21 10:48:50] TschavaTschigger : you gotta do everything with polling there dont you?
[2015-12-21 10:49:24] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 977 @ 438.17
[2015-12-21 10:50:14] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 1000 @ 438.83
[2015-12-21 10:50:24] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT7D: Buy 1130 @ 442.87
[2015-12-21 10:51:14] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 366 @ 441.05
[2015-12-21 10:58:13] micmix : TschavaTschigger: my bots are hosted in China and using FIX protocol, no issues with connection
[2015-12-21 10:58:31] TschavaTschigger : micmix: which Chinese exchanges support FIX protocol? oO
[2015-12-21 11:00:00] micmix : OKColn and Huobl
[2015-12-21 11:00:02] TschavaTschigger : okay, I just googled, huobi and okcoin indeed support FIX... I am surprised
[2015-12-21 11:00:54] TschavaTschigger : because websocket is crappy, even if you have servers inside china... I might switch to fix then when I have some spare time
[2015-12-21 11:03:15] micmix : websocket is severely overloaded, FIX is much better
[2015-12-21 11:03:48] habibi : hey gents
[2015-12-21 11:04:19] habibi : suprised we didnt get some crazy liq here, many safer players here with cross margins :) good enought to avid clowback
[2015-12-21 11:06:14] laisee : yeah, seems everyone like buying on way up only
[2015-12-21 11:06:38] wurstgelee : someone has to sell... ;)
[2015-12-21 11:16:20] laisee : forced sells?
[2015-12-21 11:17:06] wurstgelee : those normally don't happen on the way up unless they are shorts. ;)
[2015-12-21 11:17:14] wurstgelee : so...someone sold
[2015-12-21 11:17:55] laisee : I blame sleger, and rapidtrades
[2015-12-21 11:19:15] wurstgelee : good choice. ant be wrong woth blaming rapidtrades and sleger ist sitting in a plan so he cant defend himself
[2015-12-21 11:21:43] TschavaTschigger : sitting in a plane? to where?
[2015-12-21 11:21:47] TschavaTschigger : china?
[2015-12-21 11:22:52] wurstgelee : dunno, he said something about a 10h flight
[2015-12-21 11:23:33] TschavaTschigger : 100% hongkong to get some fee-lapdances with arthur
[2015-12-21 11:24:04] laisee : hah. try and find a lap dance in HK
[2015-12-21 11:25:27] TschavaTschigger : I meant hookers obviously, just wanted to use the nice version since we have kids in here
[2015-12-21 11:26:20] laisee : suprised they don't have a word substitution for that term in the chat bot
[2015-12-21 11:48:22] rapidtrades : I think this was the halving pump
[2015-12-21 11:49:20] rapidtrades : from oct to today
[2015-12-21 11:50:54] chromaticcr : lol
[2015-12-21 11:51:01] habibi : :D
[2015-12-21 11:51:06] chromaticcr : seems someone forgot that it is settlement time
[2015-12-21 11:51:39] habibi : i think that was santa claus pump :D
[2015-12-21 11:52:15] TschavaTschigger : that was me :D oops
[2015-12-21 11:54:16] rapidtrades : prolly Chinese miners colluding by hoarding coins pre-halvening
[2015-12-21 11:54:46] habibi : probally rapidtrades still in delusion phase
[2015-12-21 13:09:35] wilmergreat : hi, when will you confirm withdrawal requests made 4 hours earlier
[2015-12-21 13:11:13] BitMEX_Wally : wilmergreat: Withdrawals are being processed right now (13:00 UTC)
[2015-12-21 13:20:36] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 70 @ 442.60
[2015-12-21 13:23:29] wilmergreat : BitMEX_Wally: Thanks
[2015-12-21 13:30:40] zanza : anyone know what fees are for forex trading on simplefx?
[2015-12-21 13:30:54] habibi : i think no fees just wild spreed
[2015-12-21 13:32:25] zanza : there is no overnight finance charge?
[2015-12-21 13:34:22] habibi : " Spread on BTCUSD is currently around 0.70 USD. Exchanges that you mentioned also have transaction fees, we don't, there is only spread. "
[2015-12-21 13:35:19] ayy lmao : BitMex_Wally: too late to submit withdrawal correct?
[2015-12-21 13:36:45] j8 : habibi: more like 0.7% isn't it?
[2015-12-21 13:38:04] habibi : i just posted part of their message from past
[2015-12-21 13:38:07] habibi : dont know what its actual
[2015-12-21 13:39:42] j8 : buy at 447.71, sell at 444.42 at the moment
[2015-12-21 13:40:40] habibi : yep spread is wild since begining of bubble, i wouldnt adbvice to trade there
[2015-12-21 13:45:20] j8 : interesting price to be quoting, it's above USD, below CNY, right around okc weekly futures
[2015-12-21 13:51:32] j8 : either that or it's okc using offshore rate