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[2015-12-16 11:21:48] podizzler3000 : i guess the idea is if im more conscious of sleep ill put more effort into it
[2015-12-16 11:21:55] podizzler3000 : like counting calories helps people lose weight
[2015-12-16 11:23:32] wurstgelee : mh.
[2015-12-16 11:23:36] wurstgelee : wouldnt work for me
[2015-12-16 11:23:57] wurstgelee : i know when i get not enough sleep, doesnt mean i sleep more ;)
[2015-12-16 11:23:59] habibi : work for everyone
[2015-12-16 11:24:12] habibi : like its not a magic way, its maths
[2015-12-16 11:26:21] wurstgelee : math is magic for some
[2015-12-16 11:27:58] podizzler3000 : wurst did habibi tell you about how he scored the $404 order
[2015-12-16 11:28:27] habibi : i think i told everyone who were here between dumb and 5 hours later :p
[2015-12-16 11:31:38] habibi : btw did sleger was here meanwhile?
[2015-12-16 11:35:03] wurstgelee : podizzler3000: yes, he did.
[2015-12-16 11:35:07] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-16 11:35:26] wurstgelee : habibi:dunno, was he long before that dump happened?
[2015-12-16 11:35:42] wurstgelee : habibi: test
[2015-12-16 11:35:46] wurstgelee : habibi:test
[2015-12-16 11:35:48] wurstgelee : lol
[2015-12-16 11:36:31] habibi : http://scr.hu/9xvi/67ia7
[2015-12-16 11:36:52] wurstgelee : did u close it yet?
[2015-12-16 11:37:07] habibi : yes seconds later, wanted to open another one at 410
[2015-12-16 11:37:15] habibi : and press sell button in that craziness
[2015-12-16 11:38:08] wurstgelee : haha, i did the same
[2015-12-16 11:38:18] wurstgelee : when that dump from 500+ happened a while ago
[2015-12-16 11:38:22] habibi : hah
[2015-12-16 11:38:35] wurstgelee : wanted to short 40k contracts, hit buy button instead of sell
[2015-12-16 11:38:40] wurstgelee : expensive mistake
[2015-12-16 11:38:41] habibi : thanks, feel a little better that i am not the only idiot here :D
[2015-12-16 11:38:53] laisee : ouch
[2015-12-16 11:38:55] hellyeahent : lol :P
[2015-12-16 11:38:57] habibi : no offene;p
[2015-12-16 11:38:59] habibi : offence*
[2015-12-16 11:39:16] habibi : and speaking of... rapidtrades u there?
[2015-12-16 11:42:10] podizzler3000 : everyone thank sleger for that awesome 35% DPE
[2015-12-16 11:42:13] podizzler3000 : derp
[2015-12-16 11:42:31] podizzler3000 : #1 complainer and #1 offender
[2015-12-16 11:43:23] habibi : we cant be sure its him, but since its quiet from him right after that massive liquidation
[2015-12-16 11:43:26] habibi : u are probally right
[2015-12-16 11:43:37] podizzler3000 : i know im making wild accusations & assumptions
[2015-12-16 11:43:44] podizzler3000 : but thats what i do
[2015-12-16 11:43:47] habibi : :D
[2015-12-16 11:44:17] podizzler3000 : have to admire the balls to short 200k contracts at 440 with no added margin
[2015-12-16 11:44:29] podizzler3000 : this time he played with the bull and got the horns
[2015-12-16 11:44:42] habibi : its not even bulls
[2015-12-16 11:44:48] habibi : its fuckin shorting after huge dump
[2015-12-16 11:44:56] habibi : who do it
[2015-12-16 11:44:57] habibi : whooo
[2015-12-16 11:45:04] podizzler3000 : whooooooooooo do it
[2015-12-16 11:45:10] habibi : whoo let the dogs out
[2015-12-16 11:45:11] irbbqu : whoooooooo
[2015-12-16 11:45:11] habibi : who
[2015-12-16 11:45:12] habibi : who
[2015-12-16 11:46:57] habibi : ok, lets assume that sometimes everyone of us short at bottom
[2015-12-16 11:47:06] habibi : but why 20-30$ below market price
[2015-12-16 11:47:12] habibi : spot*
[2015-12-16 11:47:44] laisee : fat finger? ner
[2015-12-16 11:47:49] laisee : vous?
[2015-12-16 11:47:53] habibi : fat singer?
[2015-12-16 11:48:02] nickhnt : Damm why im always sleeping when this happens
[2015-12-16 11:48:20] TschavaTschigger : nickhnt: same here
[2015-12-16 11:48:28] TschavaTschigger : as soon as I'm gone, something crazy happens
[2015-12-16 11:48:38] laisee : move to asia. best time for trading fun.
[2015-12-16 11:48:45] zanza : thanks sleger
[2015-12-16 11:48:50] nickhnt : Someone really shorted at 40x?
[2015-12-16 11:49:00] zanza : nickhnt: ?
[2015-12-16 11:49:04] TschavaTschigger : my bot was long 6k @ 360 when drop happens
[2015-12-16 11:49:15] TschavaTschigger : luckily it close seconds into the drop at 358
[2015-12-16 11:49:20] nickhnt : Looking at the chart here
[2015-12-16 11:49:22] TschavaTschigger : 458*
[2015-12-16 11:49:44] TschavaTschigger : 462 actually
[2015-12-16 11:50:09] zanza : TschavaTschigger: u can thank isolated margin for that
[2015-12-16 11:50:12] nickhnt : zanza: the chart says it went to 406, unless the chart is bugged
[2015-12-16 11:50:14] zanza : its the flip side of DPE
[2015-12-16 11:50:28] TschavaTschigger : zanza: I don't have isolated margin
[2015-12-16 11:50:44] zanza : nickhnt: the price went down to like 404, idk how
[2015-12-16 11:50:57] zanza : there are not cascading margin calls here, someone must have made the order
[2015-12-16 11:51:08] zanza : to actually sell the way down to 404
[2015-12-16 11:51:10] nickhnt : zanza: yeah tahts what im talking about
[2015-12-16 11:51:27] zanza : who can say if it was a mistake or intentional
[2015-12-16 11:51:38] zanza : i dont know why anyone intentionally would do that
[2015-12-16 11:51:50] zanza : could be a bot with bad logic
[2015-12-16 11:51:53] nickhnt : Desperate people
[2015-12-16 11:51:58] zanza : this place is pretty bot heavy
[2015-12-16 11:52:02] hellyeahent : maybe he sold to 420 and margin calls did the rest
[2015-12-16 11:52:02] habibi : there was no orderbook literally
[2015-12-16 11:52:11] habibi : no bids or just 1 - mine one
[2015-12-16 11:52:12] TschavaTschigger : well someone got arseraped hard, the question is just who ;)
[2015-12-16 11:52:26] habibi : u had like black hole on bid side
[2015-12-16 11:52:35] zanza : we think its sleger
[2015-12-16 11:52:42] nickhnt : Yeah second time in a week the dpe above 0
[2015-12-16 11:52:44] zanza : but he made a ton of money last week
[2015-12-16 11:52:48] zanza : so i dont feel that bad
[2015-12-16 11:52:54] habibi : zanza: if only he withdraw profit
[2015-12-16 11:53:00] habibi : and his account didnt got margin called
[2015-12-16 11:53:08] zanza : yeah
[2015-12-16 11:53:14] habibi : for this ammount he could loose like 10-100 btc
[2015-12-16 11:53:21] habibi : dpeends his average price
[2015-12-16 11:53:26] laisee : said he has 400-500 BTC
[2015-12-16 11:53:28] zanza : no, I think this was isolated today
[2015-12-16 11:53:32] zanza : the margin call
[2015-12-16 11:53:36] nickhnt : The thing that traders dont understand here that we dont have such liquidity Like okc
[2015-12-16 11:53:43] habibi : isolated? no way, it would be closed any time
[2015-12-16 11:53:53] habibi : price was jumping from 410 to 430 few times
[2015-12-16 11:54:23] zanza : only the price HERE
[2015-12-16 11:54:28] zanza : the spot markets never dipped that low
[2015-12-16 11:54:36] habibi : fair price was jumping too
[2015-12-16 11:54:37] irbbqu : fair price did
[2015-12-16 11:54:43] nickhnt : I learned the hard way, never have more than 30k contracts
[2015-12-16 11:54:46] zanza : XBX went to like 441
[2015-12-16 11:54:59] zanza : contract settles on XBX
[2015-12-16 11:55:13] habibi : settles.
[2015-12-16 11:55:17] zanza : if people dont pay attention to that, they may lose a lot of money ")
[2015-12-16 11:55:27] zanza : and only watch fair basis
[2015-12-16 11:55:28] habibi : but margins are called based on fair price right?
[2015-12-16 11:55:36] zanza : yes @habibi
[2015-12-16 11:55:56] zanza : 5 minutes
[2015-12-16 11:56:01] habibi : everyone buy coins
[2015-12-16 11:56:03] habibi : huge pump is coming
[2015-12-16 11:56:08] zanza : :D
[2015-12-16 11:56:17] habibi : inside info, but do what u want
[2015-12-16 11:56:28] zanza : i feel like shorting 160k now
[2015-12-16 11:56:30] habibi : i suggest 24h as a best option to buy for next 3-4 mintues before pump
[2015-12-16 11:56:31] zanza : should i ?
[2015-12-16 11:56:39] habibi : why ?
[2015-12-16 11:56:49] zanza : Christmas
[2015-12-16 11:56:53] habibi : buy 24h now up to 361, thank me later
[2015-12-16 11:57:07] habibi : ok gj 459.55
[2015-12-16 11:57:17] habibi : lets see if we have another bunch of buyers
[2015-12-16 11:57:31] habibi : as u can see pump is getting momentum
[2015-12-16 11:57:39] SnackyCoins : why would you buy it
[2015-12-16 11:57:45] SnackyCoins : with 2 minutes of average left
[2015-12-16 11:57:49] habibi : aaand stupid question from SnackyCoins
[2015-12-16 11:57:52] zanza : SnackyCoins: hes trolling
[2015-12-16 11:57:55] SnackyCoins : lol
[2015-12-16 11:58:01] habibi : but dont worry, everything's gonna be pumped
[2015-12-16 11:58:04] laisee : loking to UP the avg?
[2015-12-16 11:58:08] SnackyCoins : dat 7d doe 8)
[2015-12-16 11:58:22] SnackyCoins : you mean the average of 459.30
[2015-12-16 11:58:28] habibi : pump is coming to town
[2015-12-16 11:58:46] habibi : blessed who didnt see and believed
[2015-12-16 11:58:47] wurstgelee : 5 mins too early ffs
[2015-12-16 11:58:48] laisee : and a big SELL sitting at 460?
[2015-12-16 11:58:52] habibi : blessed who bought and didnt ask
[2015-12-16 11:58:56] zanza : holy
[2015-12-16 11:58:57] SnackyCoins : could just play 7d :)
[2015-12-16 11:59:08] SnackyCoins : plenty of liquidity
[2015-12-16 11:59:23] laisee : 7D is clamer, nicer play area with none of that DPE nastiness
[2015-12-16 11:59:29] laisee : ^clamer
[2015-12-16 11:59:46] zanza : 9
[2015-12-16 11:59:47] zanza : 8
[2015-12-16 11:59:48] zanza : 7
[2015-12-16 11:59:49] zanza : 6
[2015-12-16 11:59:50] zanza : 5
[2015-12-16 11:59:51] zanza : 4
[2015-12-16 11:59:51] zanza : 3
[2015-12-16 11:59:52] zanza : 2
[2015-12-16 11:59:52] habibi : 10
[2015-12-16 11:59:53] zanza : 1
[2015-12-16 11:59:53] habibi : 10
[2015-12-16 11:59:54] habibi : 10
[2015-12-16 11:59:54] habibi : 10
[2015-12-16 11:59:55] zanza : POOF
[2015-12-16 11:59:58] wurstgelee : lol :D
[2015-12-16 11:59:58] habibi : bazinga
[2015-12-16 11:59:59] zanza : say goodbye
[2015-12-16 12:00:01] zanza : to profuits
[2015-12-16 12:00:03] habibi : fugazi
[2015-12-16 12:00:09] habibi : thank
[2015-12-16 12:00:10] habibi : 1 btc
[2015-12-16 12:00:12] habibi : off
[2015-12-16 12:00:15] habibi : sheeeet
[2015-12-16 12:00:16] j8 : lol
[2015-12-16 12:00:43] laisee : got 5k tickets in X24H lottery ;-)
[2015-12-16 12:00:48] j8 : -7 btc over here
[2015-12-16 12:00:57] wurstgelee : damn, that hurt
[2015-12-16 12:00:59] habibi : j8: nice
[2015-12-16 12:00:59] donkey : well that was fun...
[2015-12-16 12:01:22] SnackyCoins : nobody wants to sell eh
[2015-12-16 12:01:30] laisee : where do I claim my prize, habibi?
[2015-12-16 12:02:25] habibi : its already on ur account
[2015-12-16 12:02:27] habibi : gj
[2015-12-16 12:03:00] hellyeahent : why is fair price so low ?
[2015-12-16 12:03:09] hellyeahent : ok now better :D
[2015-12-16 12:03:15] hellyeahent : this is broken :P
[2015-12-16 12:03:25] laisee : but ... I was first. Don't I get a medal or something.
[2015-12-16 12:03:54] habibi : u get, but due to unexpected dpe, we are out of money. u need to send us 1 btc so we can give u medal
[2015-12-16 12:04:14] laisee : sounds fair. whats the address.
[2015-12-16 12:04:52] laisee : 1GreatestFoole88888w234534345
[2015-12-16 12:05:36] irbbqu : I miss panic whale shorter :(
[2015-12-16 12:05:40] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-12-16 12:06:05] wurstgelee : gonna get coffee and smoke a cig, maybe he will be back when i return
[2015-12-16 12:06:12] hellyeahent : guys put some buy orders at 400+ plz
[2015-12-16 12:06:13] irbbqu : Even though he made me so scared I closed a bunch at 443 lol
[2015-12-16 12:06:25] hellyeahent : U cant lose on that
[2015-12-16 12:07:02] habibi : btw that finex market buy almost 4k
[2015-12-16 12:07:06] habibi : that was short close?
[2015-12-16 12:07:50] irbbqu : Dont think so, maybe some stops but margin longs went down 400k or so.
[2015-12-16 12:08:21] hellyeahent : https://bfxdata.com/sentiment/longshort
[2015-12-16 12:08:24] hellyeahent : nope it wasnt
[2015-12-16 12:08:48] hellyeahent : or small
[2015-12-16 12:10:16] hellyeahent : yesterday china wanted to buy everything under 3100 and now they struggle when finex catched up ~7$'s
[2015-12-16 12:20:47] Rasign : Index is broken ?
[2015-12-16 12:21:04] wurstgelee : no?
[2015-12-16 12:21:17] wurstgelee : connection quality getting worse again
[2015-12-16 12:21:20] Rasign : why he doesn't go down
[2015-12-16 12:21:22] wurstgelee : at least for me
[2015-12-16 12:21:23] Rasign : then
[2015-12-16 12:21:35] Rasign : ah finally
[2015-12-16 12:21:46] wurstgelee : https://tradeblock.com/markets/index/
[2015-12-16 12:22:07] wurstgelee : index mostly follows finex
[2015-12-16 12:22:13] wurstgelee : currently
[2015-12-16 12:22:36] Rasign : ok thx
[2015-12-16 12:22:39] wurstgelee : finex and okc usd
[2015-12-16 12:22:41] wurstgelee : =)
[2015-12-16 12:43:57] podizzle3k : why the index gotta be like that
[2015-12-16 12:43:59] podizzle3k : whats his problem
[2015-12-16 12:45:19] rapidtrades : are u guys still trading the daily?
[2015-12-16 12:45:42] rapidtrades : nvm, ur all bulls here, ofc ur are
[2015-12-16 12:46:20] habibi : lel
[2015-12-16 12:46:22] sleger : yes 100% of the contracts are long, they are all opened against noone
[2015-12-16 12:46:23] habibi : ofcourse
[2015-12-16 12:46:26] habibi : best profits in short term
[2015-12-16 12:46:33] habibi : hey sleger
[2015-12-16 12:46:41] habibi : how are u mate?
[2015-12-16 12:46:50] sleger : excellent
[2015-12-16 12:46:50] podizzle3k : right because bitcoin could never possibly go up $2 in the next 23 hours
[2015-12-16 12:46:52] podizzle3k : thats ridiculous
[2015-12-16 12:46:55] podizzle3k : im shorting the premium
[2015-12-16 12:47:10] podizzle3k : you act like its a $20 premium
[2015-12-16 12:47:32] habibi : sleger: did u short last night so hard?
[2015-12-16 12:47:36] habibi : under spot?
[2015-12-16 12:49:36] sleger : i'd never sell below spot
[2015-12-16 12:49:42] sleger : since i can sell spot
[2015-12-16 12:50:00] habibi : good
[2015-12-16 12:50:22] habibi : thought u got liquidated after u run away after dumb and short liquidation seconds later
[2015-12-16 12:50:48] TschavaTschigger : well, seems like we all made profit and no-one lost ;-)
[2015-12-16 12:50:51] sleger : i use small leverage (2-4) so hard to get liquidated
[2015-12-16 12:51:06] habibi : TschavaTschigger: thats what i meant to say
[2015-12-16 12:51:21] laisee : dumb is a bit string, eh?
[2015-12-16 12:51:35] laisee : ^strong
[2015-12-16 12:52:08] Rasign : TschavaTschigger: Rekt is coming
[2015-12-16 12:52:16] Rasign : don't worry
[2015-12-16 12:52:28] TschavaTschigger : hopefully
[2015-12-16 12:52:49] sleger : i dont like rekt, it makes dpe
[2015-12-16 12:53:09] podizzle3k : not if the margin call is filled it doesnt
[2015-12-16 12:53:24] sleger : thank you, you think i dont know that
[2015-12-16 12:53:29] podizzle3k : np
[2015-12-16 12:55:01] habibi : sleger: so basically u got rekt
[2015-12-16 12:55:06] habibi : coz there was dp3 :(
[2015-12-16 12:55:15] sleger : there was dpe on 24h ?
[2015-12-16 12:55:22] habibi : lel
[2015-12-16 12:55:31] habibi : are u sure we are on same page?
[2015-12-16 12:55:44] sleger : Last thing I said before settlement was that I was almost flat, I had position less than 5btc in absolute value
[2015-12-16 12:55:59] sleger : cant remember if long or short
[2015-12-16 12:56:03] podizzler3k : sleger yes someone shorted 200k+ contracts at 440
[2015-12-16 12:56:14] podizzler3k : got burnt bad
[2015-12-16 12:56:14] sleger : XBT24H Buy 856 856 0 459.37 459.37 3.9322 XBT 0.0019 XBT Settlement
[2015-12-16 12:56:21] habibi : average price was probally around 430-440
[2015-12-16 12:56:26] habibi : coz final liq went to 443
[2015-12-16 12:56:39] podizzler3k : only takes $3 to liquidate on 100x
[2015-12-16 12:56:42] sleger : there I was short 4btc on 24h, that was before market dump
[2015-12-16 12:56:50] podizzler3k : of course you did
[2015-12-16 12:57:00] sleger : how much was DPE ?
[2015-12-16 12:57:03] habibi : i really dont think someone would be so stupid to play that position without cross marg
[2015-12-16 12:57:04] podizzler3k : a lot
[2015-12-16 12:57:05] habibi : 33%
[2015-12-16 12:57:34] sleger : wow, that 24h contract is starting to become a nightmare
[2015-12-16 12:57:34] podizzler3k : habibi maybe it was someone that 200k contracts is like 2000 contracts to us
[2015-12-16 12:57:45] habibi : podizzler3k: still
[2015-12-16 12:57:51] sleger : 100% of losses, but keep 66% of winning, and then fees
[2015-12-16 12:57:52] podizzler3k : sleger the $30-40 flash dumps dont help thats for sure
[2015-12-16 12:58:03] habibi : if u opening isolated positions and building it still on isolated
[2015-12-16 12:58:12] habibi : wrecking is must be basically
[2015-12-16 12:58:32] TschavaTschigger : people keep stating someone went short 200k at 440
[2015-12-16 12:58:35] podizzler3k : have you guys checked out https://www.*uobi.com/k/spot
[2015-12-16 12:58:36] TschavaTschigger : can't find that in the trade history
[2015-12-16 12:58:41] podizzler3k : new trading interface pretty snazzy
[2015-12-16 12:59:05] habibi : i am using spot since long time ago
[2015-12-16 12:59:10] habibi : to watch price movement
[2015-12-16 12:59:21] habibi : but now they changed it a bit @graphic
[2015-12-16 12:59:42] j8 : TschavaTschigger: it traded down to 404 and he had bankruptcy price 443. a lot filled in the 430's
[2015-12-16 12:59:53] sleger : 33% dpe wow... I got lucky i had tiny negative profit so wasnt affected
[2015-12-16 13:00:20] podizzler3k : same here. btw i sold before settlement to avoid the .1% thanks for that tip
[2015-12-16 13:00:21] TschavaTschigger : j8: kk
[2015-12-16 13:00:53] sleger : podizzler3k: well done. I try when I can, but with the big positions I had, pretty tough
[2015-12-16 13:02:43] sleger : I have 77% of open position of one of the contracts
[2015-12-16 13:03:04] sleger : I guess I could move the price quite a lot if I wanted to on that one.
[2015-12-16 13:04:33] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 432 @ 460.69
[2015-12-16 13:07:00] TschavaTschigger : lol... dat bot
[2015-12-16 13:10:26] Rasign : Rekt was coming
[2015-12-16 13:14:01] podizzler3k : TOKYO, Dec 16 (KUNA) -- China's central bank on Wednesday weakened the mid-point rate for the Chinese yuan (renminbi) against the US dollar at the lowest level in more than four years.
[2015-12-16 13:14:17] podizzler3k : better escape to bitcoin chinapeepz
[2015-12-16 13:17:00] habibi : how long till fed meeting?
[2015-12-16 13:17:26] sleger : 6h
[2015-12-16 13:17:49] habibi : sleger: any calls in case they increase rates?
[2015-12-16 13:18:12] sleger : wont do anything to bitcoin
[2015-12-16 13:18:23] sleger : sell high yield etf
[2015-12-16 13:18:38] habibi : yep, asking about forex rather
[2015-12-16 13:18:45] BitMEX_Wally : podizzler3k: `sold before settlement to avoid the .1%` the settlement fee is 0.05%?
[2015-12-16 13:18:49] TschavaTschigger : news like this are not interesting for bitcoin... things that are important for bitcoin price: 1) companiez that invest huge™ sumz in bitcoin technologee 2) who gets promoted as /r/btc mod 3) chinese ponziss?? 4) whatever the fukk roger ver is doing
[2015-12-16 13:19:16] TschavaTschigger : oh and 5) 101 or 1010101?
[2015-12-16 13:19:35] podizzler3k : wally i thought it was .1 thats what people were saying here yesterday
[2015-12-16 13:19:56] BitMEX_Wally : podizzler3k: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2015-12-16 13:20:32] podizzler3k : i see, guess i should have fact checked. ill never get that .0003btc back
[2015-12-16 13:20:33] TschavaTschigger : it is 0.1% for both parties alltogether
[2015-12-16 13:20:42] podizzler3k : gonna go look for ways to end it all
[2015-12-16 13:20:45] podizzler3k : bbnever
[2015-12-16 13:20:49] TschavaTschigger : maker+taker together is 0.05%,
[2015-12-16 13:21:08] BitMEX_Wally : It makes sense to get out with a passive order before hand, and earn 0.025%
[2015-12-16 13:21:13] BitMEX_Wally : But then who will pay 0.075% right before settlement?
[2015-12-16 13:21:16] podizzler3k : ok back i changed my mind
[2015-12-16 13:21:18] podizzler3k : its only money
[2015-12-16 13:21:59] podizzler3k : a lot of times the fair price is a bit inflated about an hour before settlement
[2015-12-16 13:22:12] podizzler3k : so i sometimes dump then
[2015-12-16 13:22:23] podizzler3k : usually pays off
[2015-12-16 13:22:44] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Wally: the fee structure doesn't make sense. there is an incentive not to settle for all users = if all users had a brain, there would be 0 contracts at settlement every time
[2015-12-16 13:24:03] podizzler3k : i sold at 459.50
[2015-12-16 13:24:08] podizzler3k : settlement was 459.37
[2015-12-16 13:24:16] podizzler3k : was the .075% worth it? who the hell knows
[2015-12-16 13:24:25] podizzler3k : what do i look like stephen hawkin
[2015-12-16 13:25:34] habibi : basically other u count from ur total position or 100x ur margin
[2015-12-16 13:25:45] habibi : dump
[2015-12-16 13:26:19] podizzler3k : haha you call that a dump
[2015-12-16 13:26:37] BitMEX_Wally : TschavaTschigger: We are happy for people to arb the fees at settlement
[2015-12-16 13:26:59] habibi : TschavaTschigger: they got still the same
[2015-12-16 13:27:11] habibi : 0.075 from taker side and -0.025 for maker
[2015-12-16 13:27:15] habibi : still 0.05%
[2015-12-16 13:27:31] podizzler3k : yeah wheres the incentive to arb
[2015-12-16 13:27:58] BitMEX_Wally : Both sides of a settlement pay 0.05% so if long and short collude they can reduce their total fees on settlement
[2015-12-16 13:28:08] TschavaTschigger : exactly
[2015-12-16 13:28:23] j8 : it means the futures market is unstable around the settlement price.
[2015-12-16 13:28:30] habibi : ah right
[2015-12-16 13:28:40] habibi : so 0.05% instead 0.1%
[2015-12-16 13:28:47] habibi : from two parties
[2015-12-16 13:29:01] BitMEX_Wally : Given a 30 minute calculation window for the settlement price the futures market is quite boring in the last 5 minutes
[2015-12-16 13:29:21] j8 : it shouldn't be if everyone closes out for half the fees
[2015-12-16 13:29:49] TschavaTschigger : it means that you are worse of settleing.. and IMHO that shouldn't be the point of bitmex.. I shouldn't be here at the exchange every time to make these trades because I make a loss otherwise (comparing nontrade to trade)... settling should have the same value as last-minute-trade
[2015-12-16 13:29:56] habibi : rekt time
[2015-12-16 13:29:59] habibi : inc
[2015-12-16 13:30:04] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 120 @ 458.03
[2015-12-16 13:30:04] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 250 @ 457.80
[2015-12-16 13:30:34] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 10 @ 458.53
[2015-12-16 13:30:34] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 200 @ 459.31
[2015-12-16 13:33:06] SnackyCoins : in b4 dpe
[2015-12-16 13:34:17] podizzler3k : crisis averted
[2015-12-16 13:49:52] podizzler3k : damn these taker fees are killin me
[2015-12-16 13:55:34] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 51 @ 455.21
[2015-12-16 13:56:54] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 500 @ 455.48
[2015-12-16 13:56:54] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 200 @ 454.04
[2015-12-16 13:57:14] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 176 @ 453.45
[2015-12-16 13:57:49] podizzler3k : what the fuck is finex doin
[2015-12-16 13:57:58] podizzler3k : who do they think they are dumping without chinas permission
[2015-12-16 13:58:28] podizzler3k : i think that guy that fatfingered earlier is trying to get rid of his mistake
[2015-12-16 13:59:36] wurstgelee : podizzler3k: haha
[2015-12-16 14:00:22] chromaticcr : this mini-dump should have came earlier for the dpe...
[2015-12-16 14:01:05] wurstgelee : yes
[2015-12-16 14:02:19] TschavaTschigger : wurstgelee: you know when fed anouncement is german time? too lazy to google timezones etc
[2015-12-16 14:03:04] mrp1nk : im not wurstgelee, but also from germany... i think at 19:00
[2015-12-16 14:03:31] TschavaTschigger : ty
[2015-12-16 14:04:32] wurstgelee : 19 utc afair?
[2015-12-16 14:04:38] wurstgelee : so 20 utc?
[2015-12-16 14:04:43] mrp1nk : sry, wrong number 20:00
[2015-12-16 14:04:44] wurstgelee : might be wrong tho
[2015-12-16 14:04:47] wurstgelee : kk :)
[2015-12-16 14:04:58] TschavaTschigger : sweet
[2015-12-16 14:05:05] wurstgelee : hamburg here btw ;)
[2015-12-16 14:07:49] habibi : hook up for a date guys
[2015-12-16 14:08:02] TschavaTschigger : i'm not german ;)
[2015-12-16 14:08:21] wurstgelee : y do u want when it is in german time then? oO
[2015-12-16 14:08:33] habibi : let see
[2015-12-16 14:08:34] habibi : hmm
[2015-12-16 14:08:36] habibi : 20 + 0
[2015-12-16 14:08:38] TschavaTschigger : because I live in the same time zone and I know you are German
[2015-12-16 14:08:40] habibi : looks like 20
[2015-12-16 14:08:49] wurstgelee : TschavaTschigger: makes sense =)
[2015-12-16 14:08:52] zanza : 3130 wins
[2015-12-16 14:08:56] zanza : back to 2300 levels?
[2015-12-16 14:09:12] habibi : no chance
[2015-12-16 14:09:15] wurstgelee : nope
[2015-12-16 14:09:16] zanza : :D
[2015-12-16 14:09:22] habibi : we wouldnt dumb last night at whale style
[2015-12-16 14:09:23] wurstgelee : sorry for your short :D
[2015-12-16 14:09:26] habibi : just to go down futher
[2015-12-16 14:09:40] habibi : its soo manipulated and u dont need to worry about price under 400$ so far
[2015-12-16 14:09:53] zanza : the REKT bot should put usernames next to liquidation orders, can we have BitMEX_Wally add that to API?
[2015-12-16 14:10:05] wurstgelee : for extra humiliation?
[2015-12-16 14:10:10] zanza : ^^
[2015-12-16 14:11:38] habibi : yea and ip and mail adress
[2015-12-16 14:11:42] habibi : with hashed password
[2015-12-16 14:11:47] TschavaTschigger : habibi: lol
[2015-12-16 14:12:51] wurstgelee : mh, strugling to hold 3k now
[2015-12-16 14:12:54] wurstgelee : *g
[2015-12-16 14:12:55] habibi : i mean dont care, dont use isolated since long time
[2015-12-16 14:13:02] habibi : and didnt get account liq so far
[2015-12-16 14:13:06] habibi : but guys be serious
[2015-12-16 14:13:12] SnackyCoins : imo you only deserve rekt humiliation if you were talking a bunch of shit ahead of time.. then it's just karma
[2015-12-16 14:13:15] podizzler3k : -_-
[2015-12-16 14:13:35] habibi : SnackyCoins: who?
[2015-12-16 14:13:41] SnackyCoins : anyone
[2015-12-16 14:13:53] habibi : but these words are marked to?
[2015-12-16 14:14:06] habibi : and how da fuck u can believe in such a thing as karma
[2015-12-16 14:14:16] wurstgelee : much volatility, many bounce
[2015-12-16 14:14:17] SnackyCoins : ... nobody in particular? we were talking about adding names to the rektbot lol
[2015-12-16 14:14:21] wurstgelee : decide what u want ffs
[2015-12-16 14:14:24] podizzler3k : i believe in karma
[2015-12-16 14:14:25] habibi : SnackyCoins: aah sorry then :p
[2015-12-16 14:14:28] podizzler3k : its universal law
[2015-12-16 14:14:40] podizzler3k : quantum shit
[2015-12-16 14:14:44] SnackyCoins : i just like to see big egos get checked
[2015-12-16 14:14:49] SnackyCoins : its fun
[2015-12-16 14:14:49] wurstgelee : same
[2015-12-16 14:14:52] habibi : universal power that makes u good if u did good things and bad if u were ashole ?
[2015-12-16 14:15:50] habibi : eh nvm, it touches subjects almost same as in relogious talks. avoid it here
[2015-12-16 14:15:57] habibi : lets make fun of rapidtrades instead
[2015-12-16 14:16:23] sleger : any progress with his bot ?
[2015-12-16 14:16:26] wurstgelee : i am ok with making fun of religions, np
[2015-12-16 14:16:36] wurstgelee : sleger: thanks for clawback i guess ;)
[2015-12-16 14:16:40] TschavaTschigger : sleger: asked him today but he didn't answer
[2015-12-16 14:16:58] habibi : he is playing like a boss that it wasnt him :D
[2015-12-16 14:17:09] habibi : and actually i believe him :(
[2015-12-16 14:17:30] laisee : habibi: > then who?
[2015-12-16 14:17:34] wurstgelee : dunno, dont really care either. clawback happens
[2015-12-16 14:17:35] wurstgelee : np :)
[2015-12-16 14:17:47] habibi : not everyone needs to be here on chat
[2015-12-16 14:17:51] habibi : we have 131 bots on bitmex
[2015-12-16 14:17:57] habibi : even 1 could fucked up harly
[2015-12-16 14:18:03] habibi : hardly*
[2015-12-16 14:20:21] TschavaTschigger : habibi: nah, just 130 api connections.. doesn't mean they trade here, don't even have to have an account
[2015-12-16 14:20:38] habibi : ah thought its 131 diff api keys
[2015-12-16 14:20:42] wurstgelee : yep, could also be some price tracker or sth
[2015-12-16 14:20:58] wurstgelee : i doubt that we have more than a dozen of bots here
[2015-12-16 14:21:01] wurstgelee : maybe im wrong tho
[2015-12-16 14:21:04] TschavaTschigger : same
[2015-12-16 14:22:23] sleger : I would say <=5
[2015-12-16 14:22:30] sleger : < = 5
[2015-12-16 14:22:45] wurstgelee : probably even that, yes
[2015-12-16 14:23:13] sleger : I dont count anything below 1000lots anyways
[2015-12-16 14:23:30] TschavaTschigger : well then we don't count micmix I guess ;)
[2015-12-16 14:23:47] sleger : not yet, he says he is still testin
[2015-12-16 14:24:02] TschavaTschigger : sleger: whats ur 24h volume approx?
[2015-12-16 14:24:52] sleger : on what ? bot ?
[2015-12-16 14:24:56] TschavaTschigger : yes
[2015-12-16 14:24:58] TschavaTschigger : bitmex
[2015-12-16 14:25:11] sleger : usually about 15% of 24h volume, havent checked in last few days
[2015-12-16 14:26:31] TschavaTschigger : same as me then approximately
[2015-12-16 14:26:58] sleger : 75k contracts since settle
[2015-12-16 14:27:47] TschavaTschigger : me 55k
[2015-12-16 14:28:30] habibi : leavesQty is filled contracts right?
[2015-12-16 14:28:39] j8 : unfilled
[2015-12-16 14:28:40] TschavaTschigger : lastQty
[2015-12-16 14:29:46] TschavaTschigger : sleger: but I only trade 24h for now
[2015-12-16 14:30:09] sleger : same
[2015-12-16 14:30:27] TschavaTschigger : oh rapid bot is here
[2015-12-16 14:30:56] habibi : 95k with actually -0.0147 "profit"
[2015-12-16 14:31:09] TschavaTschigger : habibi: since settle?
[2015-12-16 14:31:12] habibi : yep
[2015-12-16 14:31:20] TschavaTschigger : i got 0.3+ ;)
[2015-12-16 14:31:24] habibi : :)
[2015-12-16 14:31:41] TschavaTschigger : lucked out though, my bot isn't that smart
[2015-12-16 14:48:55] sleger : habibi: your bot traded 95k of xbt24h in the past 3 hours
[2015-12-16 14:49:10] podizzler3k : if you were able to profit on yesterdays 24hr then i am impressed
[2015-12-16 14:49:15] sleger : the "?" went missing.
[2015-12-16 14:49:32] podizzler3k : i managed to get some awesome 7d gains but i borked the 24hr.
[2015-12-16 14:49:39] zanza : yeah, chat is known to eat letters
[2015-12-16 14:49:56] habibi : sleger: not bot, me
[2015-12-16 14:49:57] sleger : It never did it for me until today though.
[2015-12-16 14:50:27] sleger : habibi: open interest is only 75k so you do lots of in and outs ?
[2015-12-16 14:50:34] habibi : yep
[2015-12-16 14:50:45] sleger : you're a MM hand bot !
[2015-12-16 14:50:55] habibi : only bot suits :D
[2015-12-16 14:51:08] rapidtrades : why would anyone trade he 24h after two brutal clawbacks? only way u could make this work is only go long and hold until settlement ...but then u'll be slowly eaten away by the premium
[2015-12-16 14:51:27] habibi : oh
[2015-12-16 14:51:30] habibi : rapid looses again here
[2015-12-16 14:51:41] rapidtrades : if u book profits at the top and prices reverse, u'll still be raped by clawback
[2015-12-16 14:52:00] habibi : u didnt had single profit here right?
[2015-12-16 14:52:11] habibi : or single profit during these two days with clawback
[2015-12-16 14:52:35] wurstgelee : no profit, no clawback
[2015-12-16 14:52:39] sleger : I agree it is not fair to have DPE applied to people out of the market, hence automatic deleveraging ... (I hope that by mentioning it here 10x a day it will make its way into all the heads)
[2015-12-16 14:52:43] wurstgelee : no reason to complain @rapidtrades
[2015-12-16 14:52:44] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-16 14:54:06] rapidtrades : well at least we agree on that point. I know how to avoid messy situations but I can't predict what ppl will do after me @sleger
[2015-12-16 14:54:14] Crypto Wealth : Wow, woke up to a 35% clawback. I love this exchange, it makes good money but people need to go easy on the leverage.
[2015-12-16 14:54:36] rapidtrades : last time I got clawed for profits made hours before the mess occured
[2015-12-16 14:54:46] wurstgelee : a lot of people are here because they dont want to go easy on it
[2015-12-16 14:54:47] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-16 14:54:51] rapidtrades : yday I was lucky, didn't trade
[2015-12-16 14:55:06] habibi : we were lucky
[2015-12-16 14:55:13] habibi : imagine where we would be if u go short
[2015-12-16 14:55:16] habibi : last night
[2015-12-16 14:55:21] habibi : probally above 500$ :(
[2015-12-16 14:55:40] Crypto Wealth : that's even higher than the 24% that happened during the bigger dump.
[2015-12-16 14:56:00] sleger : all because of one cl
[2015-12-16 14:56:09] sleger : *client
[2015-12-16 14:56:10] habibi : someone was shorting down from 440
[2015-12-16 14:56:15] habibi : to 404 probally
[2015-12-16 14:56:48] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, that 230k contract liquidation was the main cause of the loss
[2015-12-16 14:57:03] BitMEX_Sam : A lot of other users profited from that, though.
[2015-12-16 14:57:21] wurstgelee : yep, its only bad for those who didnt ;)
[2015-12-16 14:57:24] wurstgelee : bc they slept :|
[2015-12-16 14:57:31] sleger : and some who were out of the market with no position got penalized anyways...
[2015-12-16 14:57:51] Crypto Wealth : sleger: really?