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[2015-12-16 09:10:38] podizzler3000 : can i get that on a bumper sticker
[2015-12-16 09:11:02] zanza : rapidtrades: losers are already owned
[2015-12-16 09:11:10] zanza : by the fact they lost money
[2015-12-16 09:11:25] Rasign : you need to trade on isolate or cross ?
[2015-12-16 09:11:36] zanza : Rasign: you can choose which one
[2015-12-16 09:11:49] rapidtrades : zanza: not necessarily, there's a lot of hedging, arbitrage and market making...plus cross contract exposure
[2015-12-16 09:11:53] rapidtrades : it's not as simple as that
[2015-12-16 09:12:00] Rasign : what difference ?
[2015-12-16 09:12:16] Rasign : i didn't get the difference^^^
[2015-12-16 09:12:21] zanza : isolate means you set aside margin just for that irder
[2015-12-16 09:12:24] rapidtrades : these 25% clawbacks every other day will kill all that activity
[2015-12-16 09:12:34] zanza : cross means your whole acct margin is used
[2015-12-16 09:13:22] Rasign : ok
[2015-12-16 09:13:28] rapidtrades : prolly why we're seeing the 24H de-couple so much from other markets...u can't properly hedge and arbitrage these diffferences cos u dunno if ur winning leg here will take a 25% hit
[2015-12-16 09:13:48] micmix : Rasign: more detilas here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/isolatedMargin
[2015-12-16 09:13:50] zanza : rapidtrades: other exchanges have clawback also
[2015-12-16 09:15:06] rapidtrades : futures exchanges yes and again, that doesn't mean it's right
[2015-12-16 09:15:37] Rasign : micmix: thx
[2015-12-16 09:16:01] zanza : rapidtrades: you can trade on Coinbase or something
[2015-12-16 09:16:07] zanza : for straight up
[2015-12-16 09:16:35] rapidtrades : I will prolly switch to 100% spot after my futures hedge rolls off
[2015-12-16 09:16:56] rapidtrades : too much risk I can calculate...the small premium is not worth it imo
[2015-12-16 09:16:57] zanza : i think conbase has like 5x leverage?
[2015-12-16 09:17:08] zanza : conbase rofl
[2015-12-16 09:17:10] zanza : new meme?
[2015-12-16 09:17:28] raithe : micmix: did you see my question above?
[2015-12-16 09:17:40] micmix : I prefer DPE over suing people to oblivion. Automatic de-leveraging is good too but harder to explain and less suitable for manual trading
[2015-12-16 09:17:54] micmix : raithe: no, didn't see
[2015-12-16 09:18:01] rapidtrades : micmix: ppl don't really get sued, it's bad publicity
[2015-12-16 09:18:16] micmix : depends on the amount
[2015-12-16 09:18:18] rapidtrades : micmix: most of time the debt it's forgiven
[2015-12-16 09:18:54] raithe : How hard would it be to port the liquidation posting bot to Telegram or Twitter? What would you charge to code something like that for me? @micmix
[2015-12-16 09:19:17] wurstgelee : raithe: there is already a liquidation bot on twitter
[2015-12-16 09:19:25] wurstgelee : for bitmex
[2015-12-16 09:19:25] micmix : raithe: there is already rektbitmex on twitter, you can follow it
[2015-12-16 09:19:30] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-16 09:19:35] wurstgelee : good morning btw
[2015-12-16 09:19:45] rapidtrades : micmix: will ur bots be hurt by the clawback today?
[2015-12-16 09:19:56] raithe : ah, nice
[2015-12-16 09:20:02] TschavaTschigger : wurstgelee: mornin ;)
[2015-12-16 09:20:22] wurstgelee : so...why do we have a 24h discount?
[2015-12-16 09:20:23] wurstgelee : oO
[2015-12-16 09:20:34] zanza : wurstgelee: flash crash
[2015-12-16 09:20:34] podizzler3000 : wurstgelee the nonbelievers are strong
[2015-12-16 09:20:38] wurstgelee : k
[2015-12-16 09:20:42] wurstgelee : weaklings
[2015-12-16 09:20:43] wurstgelee : :P
[2015-12-16 09:24:07] wurstgelee : zanza: yes, but that happened hours ago?
[2015-12-16 09:24:23] zanza : price dropped?
[2015-12-16 09:24:45] wurstgelee : or are you not talking about the dump ~5 horus or something ago?
[2015-12-16 09:24:50] wurstgelee : *hours
[2015-12-16 09:26:15] zanza : wurstgelee: there is an unfilled liquidation at 443
[2015-12-16 09:26:21] zanza : for 160k
[2015-12-16 09:26:31] wurstgelee : oh..i see....nice dpe oO
[2015-12-16 09:26:33] BitMEX_Arthur : If you are worried about DPE on `XBT24H` please trade `XBT7D`
[2015-12-16 09:26:36] BitMEX_Arthur : there is no adjustment
[2015-12-16 09:26:38] podizzler3000 : it was 200+ but some people (me) dumped on it
[2015-12-16 09:26:52] irbbqu : ye, for the greater good ^^'
[2015-12-16 09:26:57] wurstgelee : podizzler3000: haha, chcken? :D
[2015-12-16 09:27:02] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: not yet
[2015-12-16 09:27:12] podizzler3000 : yeah it looked sketchy for a second it went from 2070 to 2040 in seconds
[2015-12-16 09:27:15] BitMEX_Arthur : That is true, but just a heads up
[2015-12-16 09:27:17] podizzler3000 : started sweating
[2015-12-16 09:27:50] wurstgelee : mh...still looks healthy to me
[2015-12-16 09:27:57] wurstgelee : some longs needs to get wiped for further up imo
[2015-12-16 09:28:12] wurstgelee : *needed
[2015-12-16 09:28:26] podizzler3000 : yep
[2015-12-16 09:28:32] podizzler3000 : 60k contracts went oof
[2015-12-16 09:28:33] podizzler3000 : poof
[2015-12-16 09:28:39] podizzler3000 : back in heatlhy range for now
[2015-12-16 09:28:39] wurstgelee : excellent
[2015-12-16 09:29:16] podizzler3000 : although #1 holder is up to 44k now
[2015-12-16 09:29:20] podizzler3000 : i dont trust this guyh
[2015-12-16 09:29:27] podizzler3000 : 44k is obscene amount for one account
[2015-12-16 09:29:47] irbbqu : Mavrodi himself
[2015-12-16 09:29:48] zanza : podizzler3000: what do you mean ?
[2015-12-16 09:30:07] podizzler3000 : ok okcoin one the top futures holder has 44,000 contracts each worth $100
[2015-12-16 09:30:16] zanza : ok, damn
[2015-12-16 09:30:23] podizzler3000 : if he were to dump it would be pretty catostrophic
[2015-12-16 09:30:27] zanza : 4.4 million
[2015-12-16 09:31:05] podizzler3000 : historically those guys dump in bunches. thats where you see the bloody waterfalls
[2015-12-16 09:31:21] podizzler3000 : theyll dump a few thousand, wait an hour, then dump some more
[2015-12-16 09:31:28] podizzler3000 : not like the flash crashes we've been seeing
[2015-12-16 09:31:44] zanza : blood waterfall, sounds cool
[2015-12-16 09:31:50] podizzler3000 : yeah if youre short
[2015-12-16 09:31:54] wurstgelee : it only is if youre not long ;)
[2015-12-16 09:31:58] TschavaTschigger : "If you are worried about DPE on XBT24H please trade XBT7D" this
[2015-12-16 09:31:58] wurstgelee : haha
[2015-12-16 09:33:11] podizzler3000 : speaking of dump china gettin a little wild atm
[2015-12-16 09:33:25] podizzler3000 : bitstamp dont care
[2015-12-16 09:33:42] podizzler3000 : europe and usa waking up to cheap prices thats all they see
[2015-12-16 09:33:56] wurstgelee : i am europe, i bought cheap :p
[2015-12-16 09:34:08] wurstgelee : also i woke up 2h too late today
[2015-12-16 09:34:16] wurstgelee : 2nd day in a row
[2015-12-16 09:34:42] ethexio : Rip
[2015-12-16 09:35:22] mrp1nk : @wurstgele same here, but i had a buy order @425 :)
[2015-12-16 09:35:44] wurstgelee : oh nice
[2015-12-16 09:38:00] podizzler3000 : at least coinbase is back to bein finex's bitch in the index
[2015-12-16 09:38:06] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-12-16 09:38:35] podizzler3000 : theyre $4 lower than everyone
[2015-12-16 09:39:14] wurstgelee : so DPE gets higher with every single $ up?
[2015-12-16 09:39:16] wurstgelee : great oO
[2015-12-16 09:39:43] TschavaTschigger : to the moon!
[2015-12-16 09:40:04] justinlooking : \0/
[2015-12-16 09:42:54] TschavaTschigger : justinlooking: time for a 3min-irc session?
[2015-12-16 09:43:17] justinlooking : sure
[2015-12-16 09:45:30] zanza : so where do I see the DPE?
[2015-12-16 09:45:39] zanza : someone said next to "fair price"
[2015-12-16 09:45:59] justinlooking : in the "selected cotnract" panel is quickest
[2015-12-16 09:46:35] zanza : i guess you need an open position to see it
[2015-12-16 09:46:46] wurstgelee : no
[2015-12-16 09:46:55] rapidtrades : zanza: it's the gray number
[2015-12-16 09:47:02] rapidtrades : second one
[2015-12-16 09:47:02] wurstgelee : the gray percentage number
[2015-12-16 09:47:08] wurstgelee : which is getting uncomfortably high
[2015-12-16 09:47:10] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-16 09:47:28] zanza : ohhh
[2015-12-16 09:47:38] zanza : lol, got it! i was looking at all the wrong places
[2015-12-16 09:48:27] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Arthur: did u consider closing margin calls deep in the books? probably more days with clawback but not those extreme values?
[2015-12-16 09:48:33] wurstgelee : *deeper
[2015-12-16 09:48:56] zanza : they probablly thought about it and opted not to
[2015-12-16 09:49:06] zanza : there is a reddit post with a lot of details
[2015-12-16 09:49:06] rapidtrades : clearly a good call
[2015-12-16 09:49:09] wurstgelee : probably
[2015-12-16 09:49:22] wurstgelee : i wonder why :)
[2015-12-16 09:49:34] zanza : rapidtrades: i know you are upset about it, but can you name any exchange without clawback ?
[2015-12-16 09:49:48] SnackyCoins : if you could MC people into a market close that would be much more profitable to manipulate
[2015-12-16 09:50:03] wurstgelee : SnackyCoins: youre right, didnt consider that
[2015-12-16 09:50:17] SnackyCoins : we'd have wicks all over the fucking place
[2015-12-16 09:50:22] wurstgelee : yes
[2015-12-16 09:50:29] SnackyCoins : godammnit wordfilter every time lol
[2015-12-16 09:50:30] rapidtrades : right and now we don't
[2015-12-16 09:50:39] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: less
[2015-12-16 09:50:43] wurstgelee : than we would be
[2015-12-16 09:50:45] SnackyCoins : i'm saying it would be worse
[2015-12-16 09:50:47] rapidtrades : let's keep things the same cos it could always get worse right
[2015-12-16 09:50:47] wurstgelee : *have
[2015-12-16 09:50:51] rapidtrades : RIGH
[2015-12-16 09:50:56] rapidtrades : *T
[2015-12-16 09:51:00] wurstgelee : no, not could, would for sure
[2015-12-16 09:51:14] zanza : rapidtrades: as far as I know this place has the least clawback
[2015-12-16 09:51:21] zanza : compared to other places
[2015-12-16 09:51:21] rapidtrades : lol
[2015-12-16 09:51:29] wurstgelee : if you average it, i agree
[2015-12-16 09:51:39] rapidtrades : i just scrolled back on okc and the it's around 5%
[2015-12-16 09:51:52] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: and here its 9/10 days with 0%
[2015-12-16 09:52:00] wurstgelee : or even more
[2015-12-16 09:52:01] REKT : Liquidated short on XBTH16: Buy 200 @ 563.01
[2015-12-16 09:52:01] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 150 @ 461.22
[2015-12-16 09:52:01] REKT : Liquidated short on XBTZ15: Buy 300 @ 476.24
[2015-12-16 09:52:02] rapidtrades : same on okc
[2015-12-16 09:52:19] wurstgelee : oh, upwards we go ;)
[2015-12-16 09:52:25] zanza : i think you need an )kx acct to view the settlement history
[2015-12-16 09:52:34] wurstgelee : i have to make up for the upcoming clawback, MOAR please
[2015-12-16 09:52:40] wurstgelee : almost 40% now oO
[2015-12-16 09:52:44] wurstgelee : dpe that is
[2015-12-16 09:53:21] rapidtrades : a dip $30 below market AND a 40% clawback...but guys let's not change anything cos it could always get worse and the spike will be larger!
[2015-12-16 09:53:34] zanza : rapidtrades: the dip was caused by users
[2015-12-16 09:53:40] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: if u dont like it, go to okc?
[2015-12-16 09:53:42] zanza : choose to execute at that position
[2015-12-16 09:54:02] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: okc has clawback too
[2015-12-16 09:54:15] zanza : rapidtrades: im sure they will look into things in the future internally on how to proceed
[2015-12-16 09:54:22] wurstgelee : so what do you want?trading futures withoout clawback?
[2015-12-16 09:54:24] zanza : these guys are really smart, they designed all this sytem
[2015-12-16 09:54:29] rapidtrades : execute on market, right away
[2015-12-16 09:54:31] zanza : i don't think they need advice from us =]
[2015-12-16 09:54:38] wurstgelee : zanza: +1
[2015-12-16 09:54:54] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: bad, bad idea for obvious reasons
[2015-12-16 09:55:01] wurstgelee : scroll up and read
[2015-12-16 09:55:05] zanza : Isolated margin is a nice way to exit a potision btw
[2015-12-16 09:55:09] zanza : almost a cheat!
[2015-12-16 09:55:10] rapidtrades : obvious reasons, got it
[2015-12-16 09:55:18] wurstgelee : zanza: yep. my safety switch ;)
[2015-12-16 09:55:39] zanza : yeah, its seriously strong.
[2015-12-16 09:55:47] ethexio : No
[2015-12-16 09:55:53] wurstgelee : yes
[2015-12-16 09:56:01] ethexio : Nope
[2015-12-16 09:56:04] wurstgelee : ofc
[2015-12-16 09:56:13] wurstgelee : im not saying getting a mc is ideal
[2015-12-16 09:56:22] wurstgelee : but it prevents mad losses in case of flash dumps
[2015-12-16 09:56:34] rapidtrades : for u not for the rest of us
[2015-12-16 09:57:23] rapidtrades : isolate has to go eventually , stop losses are not guaranteed anywhere..it's another quirk of the bitcoin markets that won't stand the test of time
[2015-12-16 09:57:45] rapidtrades : same with socialized losses...it's one runaway move from disaster
[2015-12-16 09:57:49] wurstgelee : lol, no. thats bullshit
[2015-12-16 09:57:54] zanza : rapidtrades: if they "get rid" of isolate, peopel can just create new accounts
[2015-12-16 09:57:59] wurstgelee : exactly
[2015-12-16 09:58:00] zanza : with whatever amount they want to isolate
[2015-12-16 09:58:45] wurstgelee : isolated is nothing but only using part of the balance for trading, having a virtually smaller balance
[2015-12-16 09:59:01] wurstgelee : nothing wwrong with that
[2015-12-16 09:59:22] zanza : Honestly I wouldn't be too upset if they lower the leverage
[2015-12-16 09:59:53] wurstgelee : manually add margin to adjust to desired leverage? ;)
[2015-12-16 09:59:53] zanza : 100x is like forex style, but they have only small % movements
[2015-12-16 09:59:56] TschavaTschigger : I would... that's the whole point of bitmex
[2015-12-16 10:00:15] TschavaTschigger : 100x leverage is the whole point to trade here.. it's what they are known for
[2015-12-16 10:00:17] zanza : TschavaTschigger: i tink they have the best interface here, good fees
[2015-12-16 10:00:22] wurstgelee : TschavaTschigger: yep
[2015-12-16 10:00:29] zanza : lot of reasons to trade here besides just 100x
[2015-12-16 10:00:34] wurstgelee : only here for that strong 100x crack tbh
[2015-12-16 10:00:46] zanza : 100x crack goes both ways
[2015-12-16 10:00:46] wurstgelee : well and 59x weeklies sometimes
[2015-12-16 10:00:50] wurstgelee : 50x
[2015-12-16 10:00:51] rapidtrades : I like the uneven payout, it can create nice volatility plays
[2015-12-16 10:05:37] irbbqu : Damn BTC acting so strange lately..
[2015-12-16 10:06:20] TschavaTschigger : wonder what happens at fed announcement today. don't think it will have huge impact on btc though
[2015-12-16 10:06:31] TschavaTschigger : but other markets. gonna be interesting.
[2015-12-16 10:06:42] wurstgelee : depends. might give some interesting wicks
[2015-12-16 10:07:02] slacknation : epic dpe today
[2015-12-16 10:07:04] wurstgelee : only on rate hike imo tho
[2015-12-16 10:08:01] wurstgelee : slacknation: i was told tehre is some big unfilled liquidation sitting low in the books
[2015-12-16 10:08:13] wurstgelee : 430 iirc?
[2015-12-16 10:08:16] wurstgelee : thats y
[2015-12-16 10:09:54] chrisxbt : where's the liquidation on XBT24H?
[2015-12-16 10:10:40] wurstgelee : chrisxbt: 443 it is
[2015-12-16 10:11:00] wurstgelee : 159246 contracts
[2015-12-16 10:15:36] zanza : i have to switch to Advnaced view to see DPE :/
[2015-12-16 10:20:50] raithe : where does it show dpe, i have advanced on
[2015-12-16 10:23:04] TschavaTschigger : raithe: http://imgur.com/6KyDLPT
[2015-12-16 10:23:25] wurstgelee : zanza: i have it on simple
[2015-12-16 10:23:36] wurstgelee : or basic
[2015-12-16 10:29:20] raithe : thanks
[2015-12-16 10:34:21] zanza : wurstgelee: can you see DPE while on simple?
[2015-12-16 10:34:27] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-12-16 10:35:02] zanza : what box is it in ?
[2015-12-16 10:35:02] mrp1nk : @orderbook, between bid / ask
[2015-12-16 10:35:04] wurstgelee : i like the basic layout, fully sufficient for me
[2015-12-16 10:35:11] wurstgelee : mrp1nk: yes
[2015-12-16 10:35:14] zanza : oh!
[2015-12-16 10:35:16] zanza : got it, thanks
[2015-12-16 10:35:20] zanza : mrp1nk: :)
[2015-12-16 10:35:30] zanza : yeah simple is great
[2015-12-16 10:36:36] zanza : yall see that finex buy ?
[2015-12-16 10:36:48] zanza : on the 1 minute
[2015-12-16 10:38:04] wurstgelee : zanza: no?
[2015-12-16 10:38:13] wurstgelee : which one? :)
[2015-12-16 10:38:58] zanza : finex 1 minute
[2015-12-16 10:39:08] wurstgelee : yes, i have it open
[2015-12-16 10:39:19] zanza : someone bought like 3k
[2015-12-16 10:39:31] wurstgelee : wtf, i dont see that
[2015-12-16 10:39:33] zanza : see t hat ginat spike?
[2015-12-16 10:39:50] wurstgelee : lol no?
[2015-12-16 10:39:52] zanza : liek 1 hour ago
[2015-12-16 10:39:53] irbbqu : Rollbax
[2015-12-16 10:39:56] wurstgelee : aaahhh ok
[2015-12-16 10:39:58] wurstgelee : :D
[2015-12-16 10:40:20] irbbqu : Institutional investor no target buys
[2015-12-16 10:40:22] zanza : https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitfinex/btcusd
[2015-12-16 10:40:36] irbbqu : as sleger would say
[2015-12-16 10:40:50] irbbqu : No TP buys*
[2015-12-16 10:41:22] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 150 @ 459.20
[2015-12-16 10:41:24] wurstgelee : oh, dump
[2015-12-16 10:41:38] wurstgelee : great, reduce DPE some more please ;)
[2015-12-16 10:41:39] mrp1nk : perfect timing
[2015-12-16 10:41:54] zanza : 33%
[2015-12-16 10:41:56] zanza : :)
[2015-12-16 10:42:49] wurstgelee : lol, and up again :D
[2015-12-16 10:44:08] wurstgelee : such fuckery
[2015-12-16 10:44:13] wurstgelee : i like it <3
[2015-12-16 10:47:18] wurstgelee : china be like "dip? what dip?"
[2015-12-16 10:51:14] irbbqu : It's like they have an algo to train an army of Chinese farmers to BTFD
[2015-12-16 10:51:26] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-12-16 10:51:35] wurstgelee : currently doing the same tbh
[2015-12-16 10:51:38] wurstgelee : every time
[2015-12-16 10:51:45] wurstgelee : it works until it doesnt
[2015-12-16 10:51:54] wurstgelee : for that i have isolated margin ;)
[2015-12-16 10:54:15] wurstgelee : "fuck dip. we go higher than before"
[2015-12-16 10:54:17] wurstgelee : oO
[2015-12-16 10:55:01] irbbqu : :)
[2015-12-16 11:09:44] hellyeahent : dip was 403 :) thats joke, price wasnt lower than 440
[2015-12-16 11:11:51] podizzler3000 : wow that was some buy on finex
[2015-12-16 11:12:22] podizzler3000 : freddy fatfinger strikes again
[2015-12-16 11:14:50] wurstgelee : dunno
[2015-12-16 11:14:54] wurstgelee : might be on purpose
[2015-12-16 11:15:02] wurstgelee : podizzler3000: how long was your night, 2h?
[2015-12-16 11:15:32] podizzler3000 : tough to tell. been having coughing fits
[2015-12-16 11:15:42] podizzler3000 : got a good nap after work at least
[2015-12-16 11:16:07] podizzler3000 : so that should help. either way the struggle continues for now. getting that sleep monitor soon
[2015-12-16 11:16:11] podizzler3000 : navibit 2
[2015-12-16 11:16:49] podizzler3000 : vivofit 2
[2015-12-16 11:16:51] podizzler3000 : *
[2015-12-16 11:17:59] wurstgelee : how does that help if u stay awake staring at charts?
[2015-12-16 11:18:01] TschavaTschigger : 250 useres logged in... whats the record?
[2015-12-16 11:19:25] lockhedge : DPE 34.12%, what happened?
[2015-12-16 11:19:36] wurstgelee : lockhedge: open margin call @ 443
[2015-12-16 11:19:46] wurstgelee : 159k orders iirc
[2015-12-16 11:20:13] wurstgelee : was at almost 40%, lets hope btc doesnt move up in the next 40 mins ;)
[2015-12-16 11:20:20] podizzler3000 : jawbone up2 maybe better
[2015-12-16 11:20:24] wurstgelee : not almost, was above 40%
[2015-12-16 11:20:25] podizzler3000 : a little more stylish
[2015-12-16 11:20:31] podizzler3000 : 40% wow
[2015-12-16 11:21:48] podizzler3000 : i guess the idea is if im more conscious of sleep ill put more effort into it
[2015-12-16 11:21:55] podizzler3000 : like counting calories helps people lose weight
[2015-12-16 11:23:32] wurstgelee : mh.
[2015-12-16 11:23:36] wurstgelee : wouldnt work for me
[2015-12-16 11:23:57] wurstgelee : i know when i get not enough sleep, doesnt mean i sleep more ;)
[2015-12-16 11:23:59] habibi : work for everyone
[2015-12-16 11:24:12] habibi : like its not a magic way, its maths
[2015-12-16 11:26:21] wurstgelee : math is magic for some
[2015-12-16 11:27:58] podizzler3000 : wurst did habibi tell you about how he scored the $404 order
[2015-12-16 11:28:27] habibi : i think i told everyone who were here between dumb and 5 hours later :p
[2015-12-16 11:31:38] habibi : btw did sleger was here meanwhile?
[2015-12-16 11:35:03] wurstgelee : podizzler3000: yes, he did.
[2015-12-16 11:35:07] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-16 11:35:26] wurstgelee : habibi:dunno, was he long before that dump happened?
[2015-12-16 11:35:42] wurstgelee : habibi: test
[2015-12-16 11:35:46] wurstgelee : habibi:test
[2015-12-16 11:35:48] wurstgelee : lol
[2015-12-16 11:36:31] habibi : http://scr.hu/9xvi/67ia7
[2015-12-16 11:36:52] wurstgelee : did u close it yet?
[2015-12-16 11:37:07] habibi : yes seconds later, wanted to open another one at 410
[2015-12-16 11:37:15] habibi : and press sell button in that craziness
[2015-12-16 11:38:08] wurstgelee : haha, i did the same
[2015-12-16 11:38:18] wurstgelee : when that dump from 500+ happened a while ago
[2015-12-16 11:38:22] habibi : hah
[2015-12-16 11:38:35] wurstgelee : wanted to short 40k contracts, hit buy button instead of sell
[2015-12-16 11:38:40] wurstgelee : expensive mistake
[2015-12-16 11:38:41] habibi : thanks, feel a little better that i am not the only idiot here :D
[2015-12-16 11:38:53] laisee : ouch
[2015-12-16 11:38:55] hellyeahent : lol :P
[2015-12-16 11:38:57] habibi : no offene;p
[2015-12-16 11:38:59] habibi : offence*
[2015-12-16 11:39:16] habibi : and speaking of... rapidtrades u there?
[2015-12-16 11:42:10] podizzler3000 : everyone thank sleger for that awesome 35% DPE
[2015-12-16 11:42:13] podizzler3000 : derp
[2015-12-16 11:42:31] podizzler3000 : #1 complainer and #1 offender
[2015-12-16 11:43:23] habibi : we cant be sure its him, but since its quiet from him right after that massive liquidation
[2015-12-16 11:43:26] habibi : u are probally right
[2015-12-16 11:43:37] podizzler3000 : i know im making wild accusations & assumptions
[2015-12-16 11:43:44] podizzler3000 : but thats what i do
[2015-12-16 11:43:47] habibi : :D
[2015-12-16 11:44:17] podizzler3000 : have to admire the balls to short 200k contracts at 440 with no added margin
[2015-12-16 11:44:29] podizzler3000 : this time he played with the bull and got the horns
[2015-12-16 11:44:42] habibi : its not even bulls
[2015-12-16 11:44:48] habibi : its fuckin shorting after huge dump
[2015-12-16 11:44:56] habibi : who do it
[2015-12-16 11:44:57] habibi : whooo
[2015-12-16 11:45:04] podizzler3000 : whooooooooooo do it
[2015-12-16 11:45:10] habibi : whoo let the dogs out
[2015-12-16 11:45:11] irbbqu : whoooooooo
[2015-12-16 11:45:11] habibi : who
[2015-12-16 11:45:12] habibi : who
[2015-12-16 11:46:57] habibi : ok, lets assume that sometimes everyone of us short at bottom
[2015-12-16 11:47:06] habibi : but why 20-30$ below market price
[2015-12-16 11:47:12] habibi : spot*
[2015-12-16 11:47:44] laisee : fat finger? ner
[2015-12-16 11:47:49] laisee : vous?
[2015-12-16 11:47:53] habibi : fat singer?
[2015-12-16 11:48:02] nickhnt : Damm why im always sleeping when this happens
[2015-12-16 11:48:20] TschavaTschigger : nickhnt: same here
[2015-12-16 11:48:28] TschavaTschigger : as soon as I'm gone, something crazy happens
[2015-12-16 11:48:38] laisee : move to asia. best time for trading fun.
[2015-12-16 11:48:45] zanza : thanks sleger
[2015-12-16 11:48:50] nickhnt : Someone really shorted at 40x?
[2015-12-16 11:49:00] zanza : nickhnt: ?
[2015-12-16 11:49:04] TschavaTschigger : my bot was long 6k @ 360 when drop happens
[2015-12-16 11:49:15] TschavaTschigger : luckily it close seconds into the drop at 358
[2015-12-16 11:49:20] nickhnt : Looking at the chart here
[2015-12-16 11:49:22] TschavaTschigger : 458*
[2015-12-16 11:49:44] TschavaTschigger : 462 actually
[2015-12-16 11:50:09] zanza : TschavaTschigger: u can thank isolated margin for that
[2015-12-16 11:50:12] nickhnt : zanza: the chart says it went to 406, unless the chart is bugged
[2015-12-16 11:50:14] zanza : its the flip side of DPE
[2015-12-16 11:50:28] TschavaTschigger : zanza: I don't have isolated margin
[2015-12-16 11:50:44] zanza : nickhnt: the price went down to like 404, idk how
[2015-12-16 11:50:57] zanza : there are not cascading margin calls here, someone must have made the order
[2015-12-16 11:51:08] zanza : to actually sell the way down to 404
[2015-12-16 11:51:10] nickhnt : zanza: yeah tahts what im talking about
[2015-12-16 11:51:27] zanza : who can say if it was a mistake or intentional
[2015-12-16 11:51:38] zanza : i dont know why anyone intentionally would do that
[2015-12-16 11:51:50] zanza : could be a bot with bad logic
[2015-12-16 11:51:53] nickhnt : Desperate people
[2015-12-16 11:51:58] zanza : this place is pretty bot heavy
[2015-12-16 11:52:02] hellyeahent : maybe he sold to 420 and margin calls did the rest
[2015-12-16 11:52:02] habibi : there was no orderbook literally
[2015-12-16 11:52:11] habibi : no bids or just 1 - mine one
[2015-12-16 11:52:12] TschavaTschigger : well someone got arseraped hard, the question is just who ;)
[2015-12-16 11:52:26] habibi : u had like black hole on bid side
[2015-12-16 11:52:35] zanza : we think its sleger
[2015-12-16 11:52:42] nickhnt : Yeah second time in a week the dpe above 0
[2015-12-16 11:52:44] zanza : but he made a ton of money last week
[2015-12-16 11:52:48] zanza : so i dont feel that bad
[2015-12-16 11:52:54] habibi : zanza: if only he withdraw profit
[2015-12-16 11:53:00] habibi : and his account didnt got margin called
[2015-12-16 11:53:08] zanza : yeah
[2015-12-16 11:53:14] habibi : for this ammount he could loose like 10-100 btc
[2015-12-16 11:53:21] habibi : dpeends his average price
[2015-12-16 11:53:26] laisee : said he has 400-500 BTC
[2015-12-16 11:53:28] zanza : no, I think this was isolated today
[2015-12-16 11:53:32] zanza : the margin call
[2015-12-16 11:53:36] nickhnt : The thing that traders dont understand here that we dont have such liquidity Like okc
[2015-12-16 11:53:43] habibi : isolated? no way, it would be closed any time
[2015-12-16 11:53:53] habibi : price was jumping from 410 to 430 few times
[2015-12-16 11:54:23] zanza : only the price HERE
[2015-12-16 11:54:28] zanza : the spot markets never dipped that low
[2015-12-16 11:54:36] habibi : fair price was jumping too
[2015-12-16 11:54:37] irbbqu : fair price did
[2015-12-16 11:54:43] nickhnt : I learned the hard way, never have more than 30k contracts
[2015-12-16 11:54:46] zanza : XBX went to like 441
[2015-12-16 11:54:59] zanza : contract settles on XBX
[2015-12-16 11:55:13] habibi : settles.
[2015-12-16 11:55:17] zanza : if people dont pay attention to that, they may lose a lot of money ")
[2015-12-16 11:55:27] zanza : and only watch fair basis
[2015-12-16 11:55:28] habibi : but margins are called based on fair price right?
[2015-12-16 11:55:36] zanza : yes @habibi
[2015-12-16 11:55:56] zanza : 5 minutes
[2015-12-16 11:56:01] habibi : everyone buy coins
[2015-12-16 11:56:03] habibi : huge pump is coming
[2015-12-16 11:56:08] zanza : :D
[2015-12-16 11:56:17] habibi : inside info, but do what u want
[2015-12-16 11:56:28] zanza : i feel like shorting 160k now
[2015-12-16 11:56:30] habibi : i suggest 24h as a best option to buy for next 3-4 mintues before pump
[2015-12-16 11:56:31] zanza : should i ?
[2015-12-16 11:56:39] habibi : why ?
[2015-12-16 11:56:49] zanza : Christmas
[2015-12-16 11:56:53] habibi : buy 24h now up to 361, thank me later
[2015-12-16 11:57:07] habibi : ok gj 459.55
[2015-12-16 11:57:17] habibi : lets see if we have another bunch of buyers
[2015-12-16 11:57:31] habibi : as u can see pump is getting momentum
[2015-12-16 11:57:39] SnackyCoins : why would you buy it
[2015-12-16 11:57:45] SnackyCoins : with 2 minutes of average left
[2015-12-16 11:57:49] habibi : aaand stupid question from SnackyCoins
[2015-12-16 11:57:52] zanza : SnackyCoins: hes trolling
[2015-12-16 11:57:55] SnackyCoins : lol
[2015-12-16 11:58:01] habibi : but dont worry, everything's gonna be pumped
[2015-12-16 11:58:04] laisee : loking to UP the avg?
[2015-12-16 11:58:08] SnackyCoins : dat 7d doe 8)
[2015-12-16 11:58:22] SnackyCoins : you mean the average of 459.30
[2015-12-16 11:58:28] habibi : pump is coming to town
[2015-12-16 11:58:46] habibi : blessed who didnt see and believed
[2015-12-16 11:58:47] wurstgelee : 5 mins too early ffs
[2015-12-16 11:58:48] laisee : and a big SELL sitting at 460?
[2015-12-16 11:58:52] habibi : blessed who bought and didnt ask
[2015-12-16 11:58:56] zanza : holy
[2015-12-16 11:58:57] SnackyCoins : could just play 7d :)
[2015-12-16 11:59:08] SnackyCoins : plenty of liquidity
[2015-12-16 11:59:23] laisee : 7D is clamer, nicer play area with none of that DPE nastiness
[2015-12-16 11:59:29] laisee : ^clamer
[2015-12-16 11:59:46] zanza : 9
[2015-12-16 11:59:47] zanza : 8
[2015-12-16 11:59:48] zanza : 7
[2015-12-16 11:59:49] zanza : 6
[2015-12-16 11:59:50] zanza : 5
[2015-12-16 11:59:51] zanza : 4
[2015-12-16 11:59:51] zanza : 3
[2015-12-16 11:59:52] zanza : 2
[2015-12-16 11:59:52] habibi : 10
[2015-12-16 11:59:53] zanza : 1
[2015-12-16 11:59:53] habibi : 10
[2015-12-16 11:59:54] habibi : 10
[2015-12-16 11:59:54] habibi : 10
[2015-12-16 11:59:55] zanza : POOF
[2015-12-16 11:59:58] wurstgelee : lol :D
[2015-12-16 11:59:58] habibi : bazinga
[2015-12-16 11:59:59] zanza : say goodbye
[2015-12-16 12:00:01] zanza : to profuits
[2015-12-16 12:00:03] habibi : fugazi
[2015-12-16 12:00:09] habibi : thank
[2015-12-16 12:00:10] habibi : 1 btc
[2015-12-16 12:00:12] habibi : off
[2015-12-16 12:00:15] habibi : sheeeet
[2015-12-16 12:00:16] j8 : lol
[2015-12-16 12:00:43] laisee : got 5k tickets in X24H lottery ;-)
[2015-12-16 12:00:48] j8 : -7 btc over here
[2015-12-16 12:00:57] wurstgelee : damn, that hurt
[2015-12-16 12:00:59] habibi : j8: nice
[2015-12-16 12:00:59] donkey : well that was fun...
[2015-12-16 12:01:22] SnackyCoins : nobody wants to sell eh
[2015-12-16 12:01:30] laisee : where do I claim my prize, habibi?
[2015-12-16 12:02:25] habibi : its already on ur account
[2015-12-16 12:02:27] habibi : gj
[2015-12-16 12:03:00] hellyeahent : why is fair price so low ?
[2015-12-16 12:03:09] hellyeahent : ok now better :D
[2015-12-16 12:03:15] hellyeahent : this is broken :P
[2015-12-16 12:03:25] laisee : but ... I was first. Don't I get a medal or something.
[2015-12-16 12:03:54] habibi : u get, but due to unexpected dpe, we are out of money. u need to send us 1 btc so we can give u medal
[2015-12-16 12:04:14] laisee : sounds fair. whats the address.
[2015-12-16 12:04:52] laisee : 1GreatestFoole88888w234534345
[2015-12-16 12:05:36] irbbqu : I miss panic whale shorter :(
[2015-12-16 12:05:40] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-12-16 12:06:05] wurstgelee : gonna get coffee and smoke a cig, maybe he will be back when i return
[2015-12-16 12:06:12] hellyeahent : guys put some buy orders at 400+ plz
[2015-12-16 12:06:13] irbbqu : Even though he made me so scared I closed a bunch at 443 lol
[2015-12-16 12:06:25] hellyeahent : U cant lose on that
[2015-12-16 12:07:02] habibi : btw that finex market buy almost 4k
[2015-12-16 12:07:06] habibi : that was short close?
[2015-12-16 12:07:50] irbbqu : Dont think so, maybe some stops but margin longs went down 400k or so.
[2015-12-16 12:08:21] hellyeahent : https://bfxdata.com/sentiment/longshort
[2015-12-16 12:08:24] hellyeahent : nope it wasnt
[2015-12-16 12:08:48] hellyeahent : or small
[2015-12-16 12:10:16] hellyeahent : yesterday china wanted to buy everything under 3100 and now they struggle when finex catched up ~7$'s
[2015-12-16 12:20:47] Rasign : Index is broken ?
[2015-12-16 12:21:04] wurstgelee : no?
[2015-12-16 12:21:17] wurstgelee : connection quality getting worse again
[2015-12-16 12:21:20] Rasign : why he doesn't go down
[2015-12-16 12:21:22] wurstgelee : at least for me
[2015-12-16 12:21:23] Rasign : then
[2015-12-16 12:21:35] Rasign : ah finally
[2015-12-16 12:21:46] wurstgelee : https://tradeblock.com/markets/index/
[2015-12-16 12:22:07] wurstgelee : index mostly follows finex
[2015-12-16 12:22:13] wurstgelee : currently
[2015-12-16 12:22:36] Rasign : ok thx